00:00:00>> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
BROADCAST COMES FROM THE LAW
00:00:09OFFICE, HELPING BUSINESSES AND
INDIVIDUALS SOLVE COMPLEX LEGAL
00:00:13PROBLEMS.
AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
00:00:20ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING 131,000
TEACHERS, SUPPORT
00:00:24PROFESSIONALS, AND HIGHER
EDUCATION FACULTY WORKING FOR
00:00:27GREAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR EVERY
CHILD.
00:00:28ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE "THE
STATE OF OHIO" IS MADE POSSIBLE
00:00:34BY --
>> THE 2014 RACE FOR GOVERNOR IS
00:00:41ON.
ONE POSSIBLE CANDIDATE SAYS HIS
00:00:44NAME IS OFF THE LIST.
IT IS A NEW YEAR WITH A NEW
00:00:46GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
WE WILL PROJECT WHAT IS AHEAD
00:00:49AND DEBATE WHICH SHOULD BE.
THAT IS ALL THIS WEEKEND "THE
00:00:54STATE OF OHIO."
-- THAT IS ALL THIS WEEK ON "THE
00:00:57STATE OF OHIO."
THERE WILL BE NO REVENGE OF THE
00:01:01GUBERNATORIAL RACE OF 2010.
AFTER MUCH SPECULATION, FORMER
00:01:05GOVERNOR TED STRICKLAND
ANNOUNCED HE WOULD NOT SEEK THE
00:01:07DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION TO FACE
GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH IN 2014.
00:01:13HE WROTE THIS WAS A DIFFICULT
DECISION AND LAUDED PRESIDENT
00:01:17OBAMA'S STIMULUS PACKAGE.
HE WRITES, "I LOOK BACK FONDLY
00:01:24ON MY TIME AS OHIO'S GOVERNOR
AND AM PROUD OF MY
00:01:29ADMINISTRATION'S EFFORTS TO
GUIDE OUR STATES TO THE GREATEST
00:01:32-- THROUGH THE GREATEST NATIONAL
ECONOMIC CRISIS SINCE THE GREAT
00:01:35DEPRESSION.
GO HE WRITES WE WILL CONTINUE TO
00:01:37BE POLITICALLY ACTIVE PRIVATE
CITIZENS TO BUILD A STRONG OHIO
00:01:47AND A FEED ANTI-MIDDLE CLASS
LEGISLATION.
00:01:48IN HIS DECISION OPENS THE DOOR
TO OTHER DEMOCRATS WHO HAVE
00:01:54EXPRESSED INTEREST IN RUNNING
AGAINST INCUMBENT GOVERNOR.
00:01:58ONE OF THOSE IS THE COUNTY
EXECUTIVE WHO TALKED ABOUT THE
00:02:02UPCOMING RACE.
>> I HAVE NEVER RUN STATEWIDE
00:02:05BEFORE.
I HAVE TO MAKE SURE I WILL HAVE
00:02:07A BROAD BASE OF SUPPORT ACROSS
THE STATE.
00:02:10PUT TOGETHER A FIRST-CLASS
CAMPAIGN ORGANIZATION.
00:02:14THERE IS A LOT INVOLVED IN
RUNNING STATEWIDE UNDER ANY
00:02:19CIRCUMSTANCES TO RUN AGAINST AN
INCUMBENT GOVERNOR IS ALWAYS A
00:02:22CHALLENGE.
THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF WORK
00:02:25ENTAILED.
I THINK I NEED TO MAKE A
00:02:28DECISION SOON BECAUSE IT IS A
BIG UNDERTAKING.
00:02:31>> A MATTER OF WEEKS OR MONTHS?
>> I WOULD SAY IN THE NEXT -- IN
00:02:40THE FIRST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.
>> CONGRESSMAN TIM RYAN ISSUED A
00:02:45STATEMENT PRAISING HIS RECORD IN
CHARACTER.
00:02:48HE NEVER MENTIONED WHETHER HE
PLANS TO GET INTO THE RACE.
00:02:50THE FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS
SAID IN THE PAST HE PLANS TO
00:02:55RUN IN 2014.
HE HAD NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE
00:02:58RACE THIS WEEK BECAUSE HIS
POSITION AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE
00:03:05CONSUMER FINANCIAL PROTECTION
THROUGH PREVENTS HIM FROM
00:03:07COMMENTING ABOUT POLITICS.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY CHAIR WROTE
00:03:10THAT NOW THAT GOVERNOR
STRICKLAND HAS ANNOUNCED HIS
00:03:12INTENTIONS, STRONG DEMOCRATIC
OFFICEHOLDERS PREPARED TO HOLD
00:03:16THIS IN MINISTRIES UNCOUNTABLE
FOR THE ANTI-WORKER AGENDAS THAT
00:03:20IS UNFAIRLY SKYROCKETING LOCAL
TAXES CAN BEGIN EARNESTLY
00:03:25EXPLORING WHY ONLY 36% OF
OHIOANS BELIEVE GOVERNOR JOHN
00:03:28KASICH DESERVES TO BE REELECTED.
STRICKLAND'S DECISION HEARD THIS
00:03:37RESPONSE.
>> TO ME IS A REFLECTION OF THE
00:03:39REMARKABLE JOHN -- JOB JOHN
KASICH HAS DONE TURNING THE
00:03:44STATE AROUND.
I DO NOT KNOW WHY IT WOULD
00:03:46APPEAR TO BE AN ATTRACTIVE
OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY DEMOCRAT TO
00:03:48RUN FOR GOVERNOR.
>> THE EXPECTATION IS A
00:03:52DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE WOULD HAVE
TO ANNOUNCE SOON TO START
00:03:54RAISING THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
IT WILL TAKE TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR
00:03:57IN 2014.
STATE LAWMAKERS CONVENED AT THE
00:04:00STATE HOUSE FOR THE FIRST DAY
OF THE 130TH GENERAL ASSEMBLY
00:04:03THIS WEEK.
MONDAY BROUGHT INDIVIDUAL
00:04:06SWEARING IN CEREMONIES BEFORE
THE GROUP INAUGURATION FOR THE
00:04:09HOUSE AND SENATE.
THE LEADERSHIP OF BOTH CHAMBERS
00:04:11WAS OFFICIALLY SELECTED.
NO COMMITTEE HEARINGS WERE
00:04:17SCHEDULED THIS WEEK.
AMONG THE NEWLY ELECTED
00:04:19LAWMAKERS IS THE MAN HE SUCCEEDS
HIS FATHER.
00:04:25TIM BROWN, AND MIKE CURTAIN.
A FEW LAWMAKERS ARE RETURNING TO
00:04:37THE HOUSE AFTER SEVERAL YEARS
AWAY.
00:04:38THAT INCLUDES THE REPUBLICAN
REPRESENTATIVE AND CHRIS
00:04:43REDFERN.
THERE ARE ONLY TWO OF NEW
00:04:46MEMBERS OF THE OHIO SENATE.
THEY ARE NOT EXACTLY NEW.
00:04:49THE REPUBLICAN WON HIS SENATE
SEAT AFTER BEING TURNED LIMITED
00:04:53OUT IN THE OHIO HOUSE.
RANDY GARDNER IS BACK BECOMING
00:04:56THE FIRST TRIPLE FLIPPER
LAWMAKER GOING BACK AND FORTH
00:04:59BETWEEN HOUSE AND SENATE THREE
TIMES.
00:05:02LAWMAKERS WAIT FOR THE BUDGET TO
BE INTRODUCED IN MARCH.
00:05:07THEY ARE ALSO WAITING FOR
GOVERNOR KASICH TO ANNOUNCE WHEN
00:05:11AND WHERE HE WANTS TO ANNOUNCE
HIS STATE OF THE STATE SPEECH.
00:05:14THE HOUSE TO ASK PERMISSION TO
MOVE IT OUT OF THE STATE HOUSE.
00:05:17HERE IS WHAT GOVERNOR KASICH
SAID ABOUT THAT THIS WEEK.
00:05:21>> LAST YEAR, WE WERE EAST.
THIS YEAR, IT WILL BE ON THE
00:05:25WEST.
>> THE GOVERNOR HELD HIS SECOND
00:05:28STATE OF THE STATE SPEECH LAST
YEAR AT WILSON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
00:05:32IN EARLY FEBRUARY.
IT WAS THOUGHT TO BE THE FIRST
00:05:35TIME A STATE OF THE STATE SPEECH
HAD BEEN HELD AWAY FROM CAPITOL
00:05:38SQUARE.
ALSO THIS WEEK, THE OHIO SUPREME
00:05:41COURT WAS FULLY SWORN IN WITH A
CEREMONY FOR THE RETURNING
00:05:47JUSTICE MCDONALD.
THEY ALSO HAD THE FIRST CASES OF
00:05:49THE YEAR.
WITH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY SWORN
00:05:52IN , IT MAY BE TIME TO COMMENCE
THE SWEARING AT.
00:05:59THE LEGISLATURE WILL HAVE ITS
CRITICS.
00:06:03FOR MANY, THE BIG QUESTION IS
WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA AND IN
00:06:06WHAT ORDER.
HERE TO OFFER THEIR THOUGHTS ON
00:06:09WHAT IS AHEAD FOR THE NEXT FEW
BEERS AND THE NEXT FEW MONTHS
00:06:12ARE TWO LONGTIME AND LEARNED
POLITICAL STRATEGISTS.
00:06:15MARK WEAVER IS A FORMER
ASSISTANT OHIO ATTORNEY GENERAL
00:06:19AND HAS RUN OR CONSULTED ON
SEVERAL SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGNS.
00:06:22HE TEACHES LAW AT OHIO STATE
UNIVERSITY AND THE UNIVERSITY OF
00:06:25AKRON AND IS THE PRESIDENT OF
THE MEDIA AND ADVERTISING FIRM.
00:06:30DALE HAS BEEN BEHIND SOME BIG
CANDIDATE AND CAUSES IN OHIO.
00:06:36HE IS THE COMMUNICATIONS
DIRECTOR FOR INNOVATION OHIO.
00:06:40WHEN I TALKED TO THE HOUSE
SPEAKER AND PRESIDENT, I KEPT
00:06:49HEARING THE SAME THINGS OVER AND
OVER, THE THINGS WE HAVE HEARD
00:06:52FOR YEARS.
THE PROGRAMS WILL BE JOBS, THE
00:06:54ECONOMY, AND EDUCATION.
-- THE PRIORITIES WILL BE JOBS,
00:06:59THE ECONOMY, AND EDUCATION.
WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL BE THE
00:07:03MAJOR THINGS ON THE AGENDA?
HOW DO YOU THINK THE CAMPAIGN
00:07:08WILL AFFECT THE AGENDA?
>> GOV. KASICH IS STARTING HIS
00:07:13CAMPAIGN.
THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE ARE AS
00:07:14WELL.
THEY ARE UP IN 2014.
00:07:16WHEN YOU RUN EVERY KID OF YEARS,
EVERYONE IS RUNNING FOR
00:07:20REELECTION.
I WILL NOT QUARREL WITH WHAT THE
00:07:23LEGISLATIVE LEADERS SAID.
THEY KNOW BETTER THAN WE DO
00:07:25ABOUT WHAT THEY WILL CONSIDER.
I THINK WHAT YOU WILL SEE THAT
00:07:28IS NOT ON THE LIST IS
REDISTRICTING REFORM FINALLY
00:07:33MAKE SOME MOVEMENT.
I THINK BOTH PARTIES REALIZE
00:07:35THIS MAY BE A VERY GOOD TIME TO
DO IT.
00:07:37WE TRIED IT BEFORE.
IT DID NOT WORK.
00:07:40IT WENT TO THE BALLOT.
WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR.
00:07:42IN ADDITION TO THE THINGS YOU
MENTIONED AS THE PRAIRIES, THESE
00:07:47PLEDGES -- AS BIG PARTIES, THESE
LEGISLATORS MAY FIND A WAY TO
00:07:52REFORM THE REDISTRICTING
PROCESS.
00:07:54>> WITH THE GOVERNOR'S CAMPAIGN
LOOMING, CAN HE KEEP DOWN BILLS
00:07:59HE MIGHT NOT WANT TO SEE?
CONTROVERSIAL BILLS.
00:08:05>> I THINK IT WILL BE
CHALLENGED.
00:08:07HE WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE
SPEAKER AND THE SENATE
00:08:09PRESIDENT TO MAKE SURE THE BILLS
THAT COME THROUGH THIS
00:08:11REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE MEET THE
NEEDS AND DEMANDS OF THE OHIO
00:08:16VOTERS.
THE LEGISLATURE IS SPLIT IN MANY
00:08:19WAYS, PARTICULARLY IN THE
REPUBLICAN CAUCUS.
00:08:21THE CONSERVATIVE MEMBERS HAVE
DIFFERENCES OF APPROACH.
00:08:25THIS WILL REQUIRE MASTER
LEADERSHIP.
00:08:29I THINK THEY ARE BOTH UP TO IT.
THE GOVERNOR WILL LOOK TO THEM
00:08:33FOR LEADERSHIP TO MAKE SURE THE
OUTPUT IS IN SYNCH WITH OHIO.
00:08:37>> WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL BE THE
BIG ITEMS ON THE AGENDA?
00:08:42>> I THINK MARK IS RIGHT ABOUT
THE REDISTRICTING.
00:08:44IT IS CLEAR WE HAVE A RIGGED
SYSTEM NOW THAT IS NOT WORKING.
00:08:49IN THE LAST ELECTION, DEMOCRATIC
CANDIDATES FOR THE OHIO HOUSE
00:08:56GOT 55,000 MORE VOTES THAN THE
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES.
00:09:00BECAUSE OF THE PREPOSTEROUS
GERRYMANDERING, THERE WILL BE 60
00:09:06REPUBLICANS AND 39 DEMOCRATS IN
THE NEW LEGISLATURE DESPITE THE
00:09:11FACT THE DEMOCRATS GOT MORE
VOTES STATEWIDE.
00:09:13CLEARLY WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING
ON REDISTRICTING.
00:09:16I HOPE HE IS RIGHT AND THAT
HAPPENS.
00:09:18WITH REGARDS TO THE QUESTION YOU
ASKED EARLIER, ARE THERE SOME
00:09:21THINGS THE GOVERNOR MIGHT NOT
WANT TO COME FORWARD?
00:09:24I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT.
KEITH FABER IS THE NEW
00:09:32PRESIDENT.
HE HAS BEEN A SUPPORTER OF THE
00:09:34HEART THE BILL.
THE ONLY REASON IT HAS NOT BEEN
00:09:36PASSED BY BOTH HOUSES WAS
BECAUSE THE LAST SENATE
00:09:41PRESIDENT WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF
THE BILL.
00:09:43IT PASSED THE HOUSE BUT STALLED
IN THE SENATE.
00:09:45NOW YOU HAVE GOT HIM AS
PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE.
00:09:49HE LIKES THE BILL.
LET'S KEEP IN MIND HOW EXTREME
00:09:53THE BILL IS.
IT WOULD OUTLAW ALL ABORTIONS,
00:09:55EVEN IN CASES OF RAPE AND
INCEST.
00:09:57I BELIEVE THE WAR ON WOMEN IN
THE STATE IS NOT OVER.
00:10:01I THINK WE MAY SEE IT COME BACK.
THE RIGHT TO WORK IS ANOTHER
00:10:06ONE.
I THINK THE LAST THING THE
00:10:07GOVERNOR WANTS TO SEE ABOUT WITH
HIM WHEN HE IS RUNNING FOR
00:10:10REELECTION IN 2014 IS THE RIGHT
TO WORK.
00:10:13YOU DO NOT WANT TO STRESS THAT
POINT ITS NEST AGAIN -- STIRRUP
00:10:20THAT HORNETS NETST.
SAY IF THEY DO NOT GET THE
00:10:26REQUISITE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES
IN 2013, THEY WILL IN 2014.
00:10:30IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE
WHAT JOHN KASICH DOES.
00:10:34>> I KNOW THERE IS STILL A HOUSE
RACE.
00:10:38RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE
REPUBLICANS HAVE SUPERMAJORITIES
00:10:41IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE.
DEMOCRATS ARE OUTNUMBERED IN
00:10:44BOTH CHAMBERS.
DOES IT MATTER WHICH THE
00:10:46DEMOCRATS' AGENDA IS?
DOES IT MATTER WHAT THEY WANT TO
00:10:49DO?
>> WHEN THE REPUBLICANS HAVE A
00:10:56VETO-PROOF MAJORITY, THERE'S NOT
MUCH DEMOCRATS CAN DO.
00:10:59THEY CANNOT STOP ANYTHING.
THEY CANNOT GET ANYTHING PASSED
00:11:04WITHOUT REPUBLICAN VOTES.
THE ONLY THING THEY CAN DO IS
00:11:07APPEAL TO THE COURT OF PUBLIC
OPINION.
00:11:09I THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU WILL
SEE THE DEMOCRATS DOING MORE IN
00:11:12THIS NEW LEGISLATURE.
>> ONE OF THE BIG FIRST THINGS
00:11:16IS THE BUDGET COMING UP.
IT IS DUE IN THE MIDDLE OF
00:11:18MARCH.
DO YOU THINK THE PROCESS WILL BE
00:11:22EASY?
IS IT GOING TO BE CONTENTIOUS?
00:11:27WILL THERE BE CLASHES OVER
THINGS LIKE A POSSIBLE SEVERANCE
00:11:31TAX PROPOSAL, THE SCHOOL
FUNDING?
00:11:34>> THE BUDGET PROCESS IS NEVER
EASY.
00:11:37ONE FORMER OFFICIAL DESCRIBED AS
THE PROCESS OF ALLOCATING
00:11:40DISAPPOINTMENT.
EVERYBODY WANTS MORE MONEY THAN
00:11:42THERE IS.
IT IS NEVER EASY.
00:11:44ONE THING I WAS STRUCK BY AND
THE VIEWERS BENEFITED FROM WAS
00:11:51SEEN THE CORDIALITY OF THE
LEGISLATORS.
00:11:56I LIKE TO THINK SENATOR FABER
WILL HAVE THAT WITH THE
00:12:01DEMOCRATS.
THESE WILL BE DIFFICULT ISSUES.
00:12:03I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THESE
LEADERS AND THIS GOVERNOR WILL
00:12:06BE ABLE TO PASS A BUDGET WITH
THE INCLUSION OF ALL IDEAS.
00:12:10THERE WILL BE SOME PEOPLE
DISAPPOINTED.
00:12:12THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO GO
AROUND.
00:12:14THE BIG QUESTION IS HOW BIG
GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE AND WHO
00:12:22SHOULD BE PAYING FOR WHO ELSE.
THOSE QUESTIONS WILL RESOUND IN
00:12:25OHIO.
THEY ARE RESIGNING NATIONALLY IN
00:12:29WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW.
>> YOU TALK ABOUT LEADERS BEING
00:12:32CORDIAL.
THERE WAS A THING WE KEPT
00:12:34HEARING OVER AND OVER FROM THE
DEMOCRATS THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS
00:12:38ABOUT HOW THEY FELT THEY WERE
NOT INCLUDED.
00:12:39THEY FELT THEY WERE NOT READING
THE REPUBLICANS WERE NOT
00:12:43REACHING OUT TO THEM.
THEIR IDEAS WERE NOT BEING
00:12:46HEARD.
THERE APPEARS TO BE CORDIAL
00:12:47RELATIONSHIP.
THERE ARE DEMOCRATS THAT FEEL
00:12:50LIKE THEY'RE NOT GETTING HEARD.
COULD THAT IS ROUGH THE PROCESS?
00:12:55>> THEY ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE
ATTENTION BECAUSE THE.
00:12:59-- THEY ARE IN THE MINORITY.
IT WILL BE A PROCESS OF
00:13:04COMPROMISE.
REPUBLICANS HAVE THE MAJORITY.
00:13:07WITH THAT COMES THE
RESPONSIBILITY POLICY-MAKING AND
00:13:13RESPONSIBLE POLICY-MAKING.
IT WILL BE A TOUGH BUDGET
00:13:15CRISIS.
THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO
00:13:17FUND EVERYTHING PEOPLE WANT TO
DO.
00:13:19THIS WILL BRING ABOUT A LOT OF
FIGHTS.
00:13:21>> WE GO INTO THE BUDGET
PROCESS WITH DEMOCRATS SAYING
00:13:24THEY WANT MORE MONEY TO GO TO
RESTORING CUTS THAT CAME IN THE
00:13:27LAST BUDGET IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT
FUNDS AND TO SCHOOLS.
00:13:29THE GOVERNOR HAS BEEN CLEAR THAT
WILL NOT HAPPEN.
00:13:33ARE WE GOING INTO THIS PROCESS
WITH AN AUTOMATIC STRONG
00:13:38DIFFERENCE OF OPINION?
>> YES.
00:13:39LET'S TAKE AN EXAMPLE.
FRACKING IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
00:13:46RIGHT NOW, THE GOVERNOR WANTS TO
INCREASE OHIO'S CURRENTLY
00:13:54EXISTING SEVERANCE TAX SLIGHTLY.
THEN TAKE THAT MONEY, THE
00:13:57REVENUE FROM THAT, AND GIVE --
FUND AND OTHER INCOME TAX THAT
00:14:02WOULD DISPROPORTIONATELY BENEFIT
THE WEALTHY.
00:14:05IT IS AN INCOME TAX TOUGH -- CUT
TO BENEFIT THE WEALTHY.
00:14:09NOW YOU HAVE THE RIGHT WING
REPUBLICANS ON THE OTHER SIDE
00:14:15SIDING WITH THE BIG OIL
COMPANIES WHO WANT NO INCREASE
00:14:19AT ALL.
THEY WANT TO POCKET ALL THE
00:14:22MONEY THAT COMES OUT OF
FRACKING.
00:14:25IS A THIRD ALTERNATIVE NOBODY IS
TALKING ABOUT.
00:14:29I HOPE THEY WILL.
HOW ABOUT WE RAISE OUR TAX, OUR
00:14:33SEVERANCE TAX, -- RIGHT NOW IS
THE SECOND LOWEST IN THE
00:14:39COUNTRY.
WHAT IF WE RAISED IT TO THE
00:14:41LEVEL OF TEXAS OR OTHER OIL AND
GAS RELEASE DATE?
00:14:46HE WILL GET BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
MORE MONEY FOR THE EXTRACTION OF
00:14:50OUR NATURAL RESOURCES.
YOU COULD USE THAT MONEY TO
00:14:55OFFSET SOME OF THESE CUTS TO
SCHOOLS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
00:14:59WE COULD STOP THESE ENDLESS
LEVIES AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
00:15:02THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
FOR THE GOVERNOR TO SAY HE IS AN
00:15:08ANTI-TAX GUIDE AND TAX COVER, IT
IS A SHELL GAME.
00:15:12HE HAS CUT TAXES AT THE STATE
LEVEL.
00:15:14BUT HE HAS PUSHED THE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR RAISING TAXES
00:15:17TO THE LOCAL LEVEL.
THAT IS WHERE IT IS NOW.
00:15:19>> YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
THE SEVERANCE TAX IDEA FOR A
00:15:23WHILE.
IS THIS SOMETHING YOU AND OTHERS
00:15:25MIGHT WANT TO PETITION TO PUT ON
THE BALLOT?
00:15:30>> YOU NEVER KNOW.
THAT IS A POSSIBILITY.
00:15:34THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT I SAID A
MOMENT AGO ABOUT APPEALING TO
00:15:37THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION.
I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE AND
00:15:41HAVE SEEN POLLING DATA THAT
INDICATES A SIGNIFICANT MAJORITY
00:15:45OF THE PUBLIC IN THIS STATE
WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE THE FRACK
00:15:48TAX MONEY GOING TO RESTORE CUTS
TO SCHOOLS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
00:15:54THAN AND OTHER INCOME TAX CUT
THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE WEALTHY.
00:15:58>> EVERY TAX ON ANYTHING IS A
CONSUMER TAX.
00:16:02WHEN YOU TAX COMPANIES, THEY
RAISE PRICES FOR CONSUMERS.
00:16:06EVERY TAX THE LIBERALS AND THE
LEFT-WING PROPOSED MEANS EVERY
00:16:11DAY WORKING PEOPLE WILL PAY
MORE.
00:16:12THE NOTION IS CORPORATIONS GET
TAX.
00:16:18THEY PASS IT DOWN.
DOES THAT MEAN WE SHOULD NOT
00:16:20HAVE TAXES?
OF COURSE NOT.
00:16:22THE DEBATE IS HOW MUCH AND WHAT
IS APPROPRIATE.
00:16:25IF YOU SAY THE INCOME TAX CUTS
DISPROPORTIONATELY BENEFIT THE
00:16:30RICH, YOU MUST ACKNOWLEDGE ITS
DISADVANTAGES THE WEALTHY AND
00:16:36JOB CREATORS.
THEY PAY SO MUCH MORE THAN
00:16:38ANYBODY ELSE.
IT IS THE FLIP SIDE OF THE SAME
00:16:41COIN.
WE HAVE TO HAVE TAXES.
00:16:42ON FRACKING, THIS IS A
BURGEONING INDUSTRY THAT CAN
00:16:48HELP EASTERN OHIO.
IT IS PART OF THE COUNTRY THAT
00:16:51HAS BEEN IN SIGNIFICANT TROUBLE
FOR 30 YEARS.
00:16:53WHAT IS THE RIGHT BALANCE TO
MAKE SURE THESE BUSINESSES WANT
00:16:57TO COME THERE AND EXTRACT THE
OIL AND GAS?
00:16:58THEY NEED TO PAY THEIR FAIR
SHARE.
00:17:00NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
THE ARGUMENT OVER THE FAIR SHARE
00:17:03IS WHEN THE LEGISLATURE NEEDS TO
HAVE.
00:17:05SOME OF THE EXTREME RHETORIC
DOES NOT HELP.
00:17:07>> THERE IS ALSO THE ISSUE THAT
THESE COMPANIES HAVE INVESTED.
00:17:13THEY ARE HERE.
THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY GOING
00:17:15ANYWHERE.
WE HAVE THE RESOURCES.
00:17:17WHY NOT RAISE THE TAXES AND TAKE
ADVANTAGE AND GET WHAT WE CAN
00:17:22RIGHT NOW?
>> THEY NEED TO BE TAXED.
00:17:24THE NOTION THE GOVERNMENT OWNS
PEOPLE'S MONEY -- WE SEE THIS
00:17:31WITH THE INCOME TAX.
LET'S HAVE THE WEALTHY PAY MORE.
00:17:3310% OF THE PEOPLE PAY 70% OF THE
TAXES IN THIS COUNTRY.
00:17:38LET'S HAVE THEM PAID MORE.
THIS IS THE ARGUMENT WE'RE
00:17:42HAVING NOW AS A SOCIETY IN OHIO
AND NATIONALLY.
00:17:44HOW MUCH MONEY IS THE GOVERNMENT
ENTITLED TO?
00:17:47A LOT OF TAXPAYERS ARE GETTING
FED UP.
00:17:49WE MAY BE REACHING A TURNING
POINT ON THE TAXATION ISSUE.
00:17:53OHIO MAY BE PART OF THAT.
>> WHEN MARK AND HIS COLLEAGUES
00:18:00ON THE RIGHT SAY 10% OF THE
PEOPLE PAY 70% OF THE TAXES,
00:18:05WHAT HE ALWAYS FAILS TO MENTION
IS THAT WHEN% -- 1% NOW CONTROLS
00:18:14MORE WEALTH THAN THE BOTTOM 90%.
TOGETHER.
00:18:16WE HAVE HAD A CONCENTRATION OF
WEALTH AT THE TOP THAT HAS NOT
00:18:21BEEN SEEN IN THIS COUNTRY SINCE
THE GILDED AGE.
00:18:24>> YOU ARE NOT SUGGESTING
CONFISCATING IT?
00:18:28>> OF COURSE NOT.
>> HOW DOES THAT INFORM OUR
00:18:33POLICY?
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FAIR
00:18:37TAXATION.
WHO PAYS WHAT.
00:18:40THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US IS YOU
THINK THE NATIONAL LEVEL,
00:18:45DEFICIT-REDUCTION SHOULD BE
DONE ON THE BACKS OF THE MIDDLE-
00:18:51CLASS AND POOR.
>> I DO NOT THINK THAT AT ALL.
00:18:52ON EVERYBODY.
BUT YOU JUST INSISTED THAT TAXES
00:19:00NOT GO UP ON ANYBODY EARNING
UNDER $450,000 PER YEAR.
00:19:04>> BARACK OBAMA SAID NOT TO
RAISE TAXES IN A BAD ECONOMY.
00:19:08I ASSUME YOU AGREE WITH HIM.
>> WE'RE GETTING OFF THE MAIN
00:19:12ISSUE.
LET'S KEEP IT ON STATE ISSUES.
00:19:14>> THAT IS WHAT HE CAMPAIGNED
AND WON ON.
00:19:18LET'S GO BACK TO FRACKING.
A RIDICULOUS ARGUMENT TO SUGGEST
00:19:24IF WE HAVE TO KEEP THE SECOND
LOWEST TAX IN THE COMPANIES --
00:19:27IN THE COUNTRY OR ELSE WE WILL
SCARE THEM OFF.
00:19:33THE UTICA SHALE IS IN OHIO AND
NOT IN OTHER STATES.
00:19:39DOES ANYBODY SERIOUSLY BELIEVE
THE OIL COMPANIES WILL LEAVE
00:19:42BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THE TABLE
IN REVENUES AND THEY COULD GET
00:19:44SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING
ASKED TO PAY THE SAME SEVERANCE
00:19:47TAX THEY ARE ALREADY PAYING IN
THE STATE OF TEXAS?
00:19:52>> IT IS A TAX ON CONSUMERS.
>> YOU CANNOT PASS A SEVERANCE
00:19:57TAX ON CONSUMERS.
>> ANY COST INCURRED AS A
00:20:00CORPORATION YOU ADD TO THE
BOTTOM LINE.
00:20:02>> WHAT ARE THE CONSUMERS BUYING
FROM THESE COMPANIES?
00:20:07>> THE ULTIMATE CONSUMERS ARE
THE PEOPLE WHO HEAT THEIR HOMES.
00:20:13>> IF THE TAX DOES PASS WHICH IT
CERTAINLY DOES SOUND LIKE IT
00:20:21WILL GO THROUGH, WHERE SHOULD
THE MONEY GO?
00:20:24WHERE SHOULD THE REVENUE GO?
SHOULD IT GO TO INCOME TAX CUTS
00:20:28OR RESTORING CUTS TO LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AND SCHOOLS?
00:20:31CHICAGO MORE HEAVILY TO EASTERN
OHIO WHICH WILL HAVE MORE ROAD
00:20:34-- SHOULD IT GO MORE HEAVILY TO
EASTERN OHIO WHICH WILL HAVE
00:20:37MORE ROAD DAMAGE TO DEAL WITH?
>> MORE MONEY INTO THE GENERAL
00:20:42REVENUE FUND AND HOLD LAWMAKERS
ACCOUNTABLE.
00:20:44WHEN YOU BEGIN EARMARKING MONEY,
IT MAKES THE BUDGET PROCESS MORE
00:20:47INTRICATE AND HARDER TO UNDO
DOWN THE ROAD.
00:20:52>> I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS SOLD
ON THE IDEA OF THE STATE INCOME
00:20:55TAX CUT.
DO DEMOCRATS HAVE A CHANCE TO
00:20:58SWAY HIM FROM THAT?
>> YOU HAVE TO APPEAL TO THE
00:21:01COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION.
HERE ARE THE FACTS.
00:21:04THE LAST TIME THE REPUBLICANS
CUT TAXES IN THE STATE, THE
00:21:09INCOME TAX, THIS WAS THE 21% CUT
OVER FIVE YEARS.
00:21:17IF YOU ARE IN THE TOP 1% IN THIS
STATE EARNING $300,000 A YEAR OR
00:21:22MORE, YOUR TAX CUT WAS $10,000.
THAT IS PRETTY GOOD.
00:21:26IF YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE CLASS
IN YOUR SALARY IS $48,000 A
00:21:33YEAR, DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR TAX
CUT IS?
00:21:35$186.
>> THEY PAID MUCH LESS IN TAXES.
00:21:40>> THAT IS CLASS WARFARE
REPUBLICAN STYLE.
00:21:43>> THEY PAY LESS TAXES ALREADY.
WHY NOT A FLAT TAX ACROSS THE
00:21:48BOARD FOR EVERYBODY?
>> I AM SURE YOU LOVE THAT.
00:21:51IT IS VERY REGRESSIVE.
>> EVERYBODY PAYS THE SAME
00:21:56SHARE.
>> IS THERE THE POSSIBILITY THIS
00:21:59LEGISLATURE WILL CONSIDER BIG
TAX REFORM ISSUES?
00:22:04OTHER TAX REFORM ISSUES BEYOND?
>> ALL OF OUR TAXES NEED TO BE
00:22:11SIMPLER AND FLATTER.
IT IS FAIR FOR EVERYBODY.
00:22:13THE STATES THAT DO NOT HAVE
INCOME TAX ARE DOING BETTER WITH
00:22:17THEIR ECONOMIES.
>> THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS.
00:22:21INCOME TAX IS NOT THE REASON.
>> IT IS A BIG FACTOR.
00:22:24WE SEE PEOPLE MOVE.
ONE BIG ONE IS THE TAX BURDEN.
00:22:29>> THAT IS BALONEY.
THAT IS ANOTHER ARGUMENT THEY
00:22:34TROTTED OUT DURING THE ESTATE
TAX BATTLE.
00:22:36THEY WERE GOING TO GET RID OF
THE ESTATE TAX BECAUSE IF YOU DO
00:22:40NOT, IN WHICH PEOPLE WILL MOVE
TO STATES WITHOUT ESTATE TAXES.
00:22:46ONE OF THE TOP RETIREMENT
DESTINATIONS FOR OHIOANS IS
00:22:49HAWAII.
THEY GO THERE DESPITE THE FACT
00:22:54THAT HAWAII HAS AN ESTATE TAX.
THAT LEADS YOU TO BELIEVE THE
00:22:57WEATHER MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO
DO WITH WHERE THEY CHOOSE TO GO.
00:23:00>> TAXES ARE A BIG PART OF IT.
>> THE STATE TAX WAS REPEALED.
00:23:06OUR INCOME TAX DID GO DOWN.
THERE SEEM TO BE OTHER FACTORS
00:23:10INVOLVED.
>> LOSING PEOPLE HAS BEEN A LONG
00:23:13TIME TREND.
THE RECENT TAX -- I THINK IN A
00:23:18FEW YEARS, WE WILL BE ABLE TO
SEE THE TAX BURDEN CUT HAS
00:23:21HELPED.
THIS IS THE ARGUMENT YOU ARE
00:23:23HAVING AS A NATION.
HOW MUCH OF WHAT WE EARN BELONGS
00:23:26TO THE GOVERNMENT?
>> YOU MENTIONED FORMER GOVERNOR
00:23:30TED STRICKLAND.
HE ANNOUNCED HE IS NOT GOING TO
00:23:32CHALLENGE GOVERNOR KASICH IN
2014.
00:23:35THERE WILL NOT BE A REMATCH.
WHO DO THE DEMOCRATS HAVE THAT
00:23:41COULD MOUNT A REAL CAMPAIGN?
IT WILL COST A LOT OF MONEY.
00:23:44IT WILL BE A CAMPAIGN OF
NATIONAL ATTENTION.
00:23:47>> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
THE USUAL NAMES, THE COUNTY
00:23:56EXECUTIVE, TIM RYAN, RICHARD
PORTRAIT -- CORDRAY WITH THE
00:24:03CONSUMER PROTECTION BUREAU.
SHERROD JUST WON A SEAT IN THE
00:24:10FINANCE COMMITTEE.
I DOUBT HE IS GOING TO DO IT.
00:24:12REGARDLESS OF WHO THE DEMOCRATIC
NOMINEE IS, THIS IS NOT GOING TO
00:24:16BE A CAKEWALK FOR JON CASEY --
JOHN KASICH.
00:24:21THE MOST RECENT POLLS SHOW HE IS
NO LONGER THE MOST UNPOPULAR
00:24:25GOVERNOR IN AMERICA.
THE SAME POLL SHOWED ONLY 36% OF
00:24:29OHIO VOTERS THINK HE DESERVES A
SECOND TERM.
00:24:31HE IS VULNERABLE GOING IN.
I THINK IT WILL BE A BARN BURNER
00:24:35WHOEVER THE DEMOCRATS NOMINATE.
>> ARE REPUBLICANS WITH
00:24:47SUPERMAJORITIES, ARE THEY
OVERCONFIDENT?
00:24:49>> DEMOCRATS WERE RELIEVED TO
HEAR TED STRICKLAND IS NOT
00:24:53RUNNING.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A NIGHT AND
00:24:55DAY COMPARISON.
HE HAD A TERRIBLE RECORD IN FOUR
00:24:59YEARS.
JOHN KASICH HAS DONE A GREAT
00:25:02JOB.
THE NAMES MENTIONED ARE REGIONAL
00:25:03OR NOT KNOWN AROUND THE STATE.
>> GOV. KASICH WAS NOT
00:25:09NECESSARILY KNOWN AROUND THE
STATE WHEN HE STARTED RUNNING.
00:25:11>> ARE HIS NUMBERS AS STRONG AS
THEY WILL BE A YEAR FROM NOW?
00:25:16I THINK THEY WILL GET BETTER.
TED STRICKLAND WAS THE BEST
00:25:21CANDIDATE AND THEIR MOST FLAWED.
THE DEMOCRATS HAVE A VERY
00:25:23SHALLOW BENCH.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE
00:25:25WHO RUNS.
>> IN THE LAST ELECTION, MORE
00:25:28PEOPLE VOTED FOR DEMOCRATIC
CANDIDATES.
00:25:30BARACK OBAMA ONE OHIO.
SHOULD REPUBLICANS BE CONCERNED?
00:25:33>> REPUBLICANS SWEPT THE STATE
IN 2010.
00:25:37WELCOME TO PURPLE STATE, SWING
STATE OHIO.
00:25:42>> THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH.
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU.
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