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>> SCHOOL OFFICIALS, LAWMAKERS,
00:00:40EDUCATORS AND TAX PLAYERS LEARN
ABOUT THE SCHOOL FUNDING FORM
00:00:42L.A. AND THE STATE'S TOP
ELECTED OFFICIALS SPEAK OUT
00:00:44ABOUT WHAT'S AHEAD IN THE
BUDGET AND MORE.
00:00:46ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO."
00:00:52>> SCHOOL FUNDING FORMULAS ARE
NOTHING NEW IN OHIO.
00:00:54A VARIETY OF IDEAS ON HOW TO
PAY FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION HAVE
00:00:58BEEN INTRODUCED, TINKERED WITH
AND THROWN AWAY OVER THE YEARS,
00:01:01ALL IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO
RESOLVE TO EVERYONE'S
00:01:05SATISFACTION THE QUESTION THAT
WENT BEFORE THE OHIO SUPREME
00:01:07COURT TWO DECADES AGO -- IS
OHIO'S SCHOOL FUNDING SYSTEM
00:01:11CONSTITUTIONAL?
GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH IS NOW
00:01:14TRYING HIS HAND AT SCHOOL
FUNDING WITH A PROPOSAL THAT
00:01:17WAS UNVEILED THIS WEEK, AFTER
MONTHS OF DROPPED CLUES AND
00:01:20DODGED QUESTIONS.
THE GOVERNOR REVEALED HIS PLAN
00:01:23BEFORE A GATHERING OF THE
BUCKEYE ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL
00:01:26ADMINISTRATORS ON THURSDAY
AFTERNOON NORTH OF CLULL BUS.
00:01:29THOSE ADMINISTRATORS BECAME THE
FIRST GROUP OF EDUCATORS TO
00:01:31HEAR ABOUT IT FROM THE GOVERNOR
AND HIS TEAM.
00:01:34>> WE HAVE STRIPPED POLITICS
OUT OF THE DECISIONMAKING.
00:01:38YOU KNOW IN THE PAST, PEOPLE
HAD POLITICAL CONSIDERATIONS.
00:01:42THAT IS NOT THE WAY THAT I
APPROACH THIS JOB, NOR THE WAY
00:01:45THAT I WOULD APPROACH THE
DISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES FOR
00:01:49OUR BOYS AND GIRLS.
THE MINUTE YOU PLAY POLITICS IS
00:01:53THE MINUTE YOU GET LOST, AND WE
DID NOT WANT TO DO THAT.
00:01:56WE WANTED TO DELIVER THE
RESOURCES OF THIS STATE FAIRLY.
00:02:00AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT
EVERY BOY AND GIRL, NO MATTER
00:02:04WHAT DISTRICT THEY COME FROM,
ARE GOING TO BE IN A POSITION
00:02:07TO HAVE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED
TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH BOYS
00:02:11AND GIRLS IN ANY OTHER DISTRICT
ACROSS THE STATE.
00:02:14AND THAT IS EXACTLY HOW WE'VE
DESIGNED THIS PROGRAM.
00:02:18I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS
PROGRAM IS FULLY FUNDED.
00:02:22THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WHERE,
YOU KNOW, WE PROPOSE SOMETHING
00:02:25AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE
MONEY.
00:02:26>> GOVERNOR KASICH SAYS THE
MONEY TO DO WHAT HE'S PROPOSING
00:02:30IS AVAILABLE BECAUSE OHIO'S
ECONOMY HAS REBOUNDED AND JOB
00:02:33GROWTH HAS BROUGHT 123,000 NEW
JOBS.
00:02:36AND HE SAYS HE BELIEVES HIS
PLAN IS CONSTITUTIONAL.
00:02:39THE GOVERNOR HIT AT THE BIGGEST
CONCERN OF DISTRICTS RIGHT OFF
00:02:42THE TOP.
>> NO SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE
00:02:45STATE OF OHIO WILL RECEIVE
FEWER DOLLARS THAN YOU RECEIVED
00:02:47LAST YEAR.
NOT ONE SINGLE SCHOOL DISTRICT
00:02:50IN THE STATE.
>> KASICH'S ASSISTANT POLICY
00:02:53DIRECTOR FOR EDUCATION, BARBARA
MATTEI-SMITH, ATTEMPTED TO
00:02:56EXPLAIN THE WAY THE STATE HOPES
TO BRING UP ALL SCHOOL
00:02:59DISTRICTS TO A POINT SO THAT
EACH HAS $250,000 IN PROPERTY
00:03:03TAX VALUE PER PUPIL.
>> WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN OUR
00:03:08CORE OPPORTUNITY FUNDING IS THE
AMOUNT OF FUNDS NECESSARY TO
00:03:12BRING OUR LOWEST WEALTH
DISTRICTS UP TO THE EQUIVALENT
00:03:16OF $250,000 IN VALUATION.
LOWEST WEALTH IS ABOUT $50,000
00:03:23IN VALUATION.
SO WE'LL PROVIDE 20 MILLS WORTH
00:03:27OF REVENUE ON THE $200,000 IN
BETWEEN.
00:03:32WE'LL DO THAT ACROSS.
>> OTHER HIGHLIGHTS OF THE
00:03:36PLAN, NO SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL
SEE FEWER DOLLARS OVER THE NEXT
00:03:39TWO YEARS, AND STATE SPENDING
WILL INCREASE 6% THIS COMING
00:03:43FISCAL YEAR, AND 3% THE NEXT
FISCAL YEAR.
00:03:46GENERAL REVENUE FUND SPENDING
ON EDUCATION WILL BE $7.4
00:03:51BILLION IN 2014, $7.7 BILLION
IN 2015.
00:03:55DISTRICTS WILL GET STATE
FUNDING SO THAT EACH WILL HAVE
00:03:59$250,000 OF PROPERTY VALUE FOR
EACH PUPIL.
00:04:01ONLY 24 DISTRICTS HAVE PROPERTY
VALUES HIGHER THAN $250,000.
00:04:06EQUALIZATION FUNDS OF FIVE TO
15 MILLS WILL BE PROVIDED
00:04:10BEYOND THAT BASED ON AN EVEN
SPLIT OF INCOME AND PROPERTY
00:04:14WEALTH IN DISTRICTS.
A $300 MILLION STRAIGHT-A FUND
00:04:19WILL PROVIDE ONE-TIME GRANTS
FOR OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS
00:04:22FOR DISTRICTS.
A FUND TO ASSIST SCHOOLS WITH
00:04:25COSTS FOR DISABLED STUDENTS
INCREASES FROM $10 MILLION TO
00:04:30$100 MILLION.
AN EXTENSIVE EXPANSION OF
00:04:32VOUCHERS FOR LOW-INCOME
STUDENTS IN GRADES KINDERGARTEN
00:04:35THROUGH THIRD.
MORE FUNDING FOR STUDENTS FROM
00:04:38NONENGLISH SPEAKING FAMILIES,
FOR EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION,
00:04:41AND FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS AND
THEIR FACILITY NEEDS.
00:04:45AND A SCHOOL CALENDAR WOULD GO
FROM DAYS, NOW 184 DAYS, TO
00:04:49HOURS.
RICHARD ROSS IS THE DIRECTOR OF
00:04:5421ST CENTURY EDUCATION FOR THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
00:04:57>> THIS IS OUR ACHIEVEMENT
EVERYWHERE PLAN.
00:05:00WE THINK IT'S A VERY
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
00:05:03IT IS NOT A SCHOOL FUNDING
PLAN.
00:05:05IT'S AN EDUCATION IMPROVEMENT
PLAN.
00:05:07>> BUT THAT FIRST ITEM ON THE
LIST, THAT NO DISTRICT WILL SEE
00:05:10FEWER DOLLARS OVER THE NEXT TWO
YEARS, WON'T LAST BEYOND THAT.
00:05:15GOVERNOR KASICH SAYS THOSE
SO-CALLED GUARANTEES ARE
00:05:18NEITHER FAIR NOR SUSTAINABLE.
>> WE HAVE OVER 400 DISTRICTS
00:05:22ON GUARANTEES.
THAT'S POLITICS.
00:05:26WE ARE NOW PROVIDING RESOURCES
TO SCHOOLS THAT MAY HAVE A
00:05:30SHRINKING STUDENT POPULATION.
AND YET WE ARE DEPRIVING
00:05:35SCHOOLS THAT MAY HAVE A GROWING
POPULATION OF THE RESOURCES
00:05:38BECAUSE, FRANKLY, WE HAVE NOT
FAIRLY TARGETED WHERE THOSE
00:05:42RESOURCES OUGHT TO FLOW.
WE DIDN'T CHANGE GUARANTEES IN
00:05:45THIS PROPOSAL.
AND WE DIDN'T CHANGE IT FOR
00:05:48THIS REASON.
INTRODUCING CHAOS INTO THIS
00:05:53SYSTEM RIGHT NOW NOT GOING TO
SERVE OUR BOYS AND GIRLS.
00:05:56BUT WE AS A FAMILY, A
FAIR-MINDED FAMILY, WE CAN HAVE
00:06:02OUR DISAGREEMENTS, BUT AT THE
END OF THE DAY, WE NEED TO
00:06:06DELIVER THE RESOURCES TO THE
CHILDREN WHERE THEY LIVE BASED
00:06:09ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT EXIST
IN THAT DISTRICT.
00:06:12AND IF WE ALLOW SOME DISTRICTS
THAT MIGHT HAVE SEEN A 50%
00:06:16SHRIN INCOME THEIR POPULATION
TO GET THE DOLLAR FLOW BASED ON
00:06:19THE FACT THAT THEY WERE 50%
HIGHER, IT DEPRIVES SOMEBODY
00:06:24PERHAPS IN ANOTHER COUNTY OF
THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO BE
00:06:27ABLE TO HELP THEIR CHILDREN TO
BE ABLE TO COMPETE AND WIN.
00:06:30WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL
WITH THIS.
00:06:33>> AND OVERALL, ROSS SAYS THE
PLAN IS THAT THE MONEY WOULD
00:06:36FOLLOW THE STUDENT.
>> SPECIFIC FOCUSES IS GOING TO
00:06:40DRIVE DOLLARS TO THE CLASSROOM
IN EVERY WAY WE CAN.
00:06:43WE WANT TO ELIMINATE
BACK-OFFICE SERVICES.
00:06:46WE WANT TO REDUCE
ADMINISTRATIVE OVERHEAD.
00:06:49WE WANT TO REDUCE BUREAUCRACY.
DOLLARS NEED TO FLOW TO THE
00:06:53CHILDREN.
THEY NEED TO GO THERE.
00:06:54THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE FOR.
THAT WAS WHAT THEY WERE
00:06:57DESIGNED FOR.
>> BUT ROSS SAYS THE TWO YEARS
00:07:00IN WHICH NO DISTRICT WILL
RECEIVE LESS MONEY ARE BUILT IN
00:07:03TO GIVE DISTRICTS TIME TO
INNOVATE AND CHANGE SO THAT
00:07:06THEY CAN PREPARE TO NOT BE ON
THE SO-CALLED GUARANTEES.
00:07:10>> THE BOTTOM LINE IS SAME-OLD,
SAME-OLD DOESN'T WORK.
00:07:14WE NEED TO BE REFLECTING AND
FOCUSING ON OUR BOYS AND GIRLS
00:07:18AND DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY.
WE HAVE TO RAISE THOSE
00:07:21EXPECTATIONS FOR OURSELVES AND
OUR TEACHERS SO WE DO INCREASE
00:07:25THE SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE OF
THOSE STUDENTS.
00:07:28>> EVEN AS DISTRICTS WERE BEING
WARNED TO PREPARE FOR THE
00:07:30FUTURE AND POSSIBLY LESS MONEY,
GOVERNOR KASICH TOLD THE
00:07:34ADMINISTRATORS THAT THE STATE
IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE
00:07:37PLIGHT OF THE LOWEST INCOME
STUDENTS AND LOWEST WEALTH
00:07:40DISTRICTS, WHICH HE SAYS NEED A
CHANCE.
00:07:42>> AND WE ARE OVER THE LONG
HAUL, FRANKLY, NOT ONLY -- AND
00:07:47THAT'S THE BIGGEST MORAL ISSUE,
EVERYBODY DESERVES A CHANCE,
00:07:50BUT ON TOP OF IT, IT CREATES A
HUGE ECONOMIC PROBLEM FOR OUR
00:07:55STATE.
AND SO THE IDEA THAT WE BELIEVE
00:07:57THAT THIS IS CRITICALLY
IMPORTANT AND THIS IS NOT
00:08:02ARRANGED IN ANY PARTICULAR
PHILOSOPHICAL WAY, IF YOU HAVE
00:08:06POOR KIDS, WE'RE GOING TO HELP.
AND IF YOU HAVE DISABLED KIDS,
00:08:12WE'RE GOING TO HELP.
AND IF YOU HAVE -- IF YOU HAVE
00:08:14GIFTED KIDS WHO CAN RISE UP AND
KEEP THEM INTERESTED AND
00:08:17EXCITED ABOUT THEIR EDUCATION,
WE'RE GOING TO HELP.
00:08:20AND IT'S NOT DISTRIBUTED IN ANY
WAY EXCEPT ON THE BASIS OF YOUR
00:08:24POPULATION.
BUT THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT
00:08:28THAT OHIO TAKE ON THE ISSUE OF
POVERTY.
00:08:30AND IF WE CAN BEGIN TO WIN THAT
BATTLE, GET KIDS TRAINED, GET
00:08:34THEM EDUCATED, GET THEM WORK,
WOW.
00:08:36THAT WILL CHANGE THE VERY FACE
OF OUR STATE.
00:08:39>> THE GOVERNOR STARTED SELLING
HIS PLAN A FEW HOURS LATER AT A
00:08:42VIRTUAL TOWN HALL AT COSI IN
COLUMBUS.
00:08:46THE GOVERNOR AND HIS TEAM TOOK
QUESTIONS VIA FACEBOOK AND
00:08:48TWITTER FROM THOSE WATCHING A
LIVE STREAM OF THE SESSION ON
00:08:51THE OHIO CHANNEL AND ON HIS
WEBSITE KASICHFOROHIO.COM.
00:08:56ON FRIDAY, THE GOVERNOR
TRAVELED TO CINCINNATI TO
00:08:59CONTINUE TO SELL HIS PROPOSAL.
AS THEY DID WITH THE GOVERNOR'S
00:09:02OHIO TURNPIKE PLAN, STAFFERS IN
THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE PUT OUT
00:09:06SOME REACTIONS TO HIS EDUCATION
PLAN, INCLUDING THIS ONE FROM
00:09:09ERIC GORDON, THE C.E.O. OF THE
CLEVELAND MUNICIPAL SCHOOL
00:09:14DISTRICT WHICH WORKED CLOSELY
WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO
00:09:16PASS THE SO-CALLED CLEVELAND
PLAN.
00:09:18AT FIRST GLANCE, THERE ARE
SEVERAL STRONG INDICATIONS THE
00:09:21STATE IS ADDRESSING
LON-STANDING PROBLEMS WITH
00:09:23SCHOOL FUNDING IN OHIO.
THERE IS AN EFFORT HERE TO
00:09:25TREAT PEOPLE IN A FAIR AND
EQUITABLE MANNER.
00:09:27IT APPEARS TO BE A THOUGHTFUL
PROCESS AND AN ATTEMPT TO
00:09:31ADDRESS TAX ISSUES WITHOUT
SIMPLY TAKING FROM RICH
00:09:34DISTRICTS TO GIVE MONEY TO POOR
ONES.
00:09:36THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ALSO
OFFERED THIS FROM MATTHEW
00:09:40PETERSEN, A FORMER OHIO
PRINCIPAL AND A FELLOW AT
00:09:43HARVARD UNIVERSITY.
IT IS EXCITING TO SEE OHIO
00:09:45TAKING THE LEAD IN EMPOWERING
EDUCATORS TO CREATE THE
00:09:48LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES OF
TOMORROW.
00:09:50IT WILL ALSO SUPPORT EDUCATORS
BY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF MORE
00:09:53DIVERGENT THINKING.
CURRENTLY, THERE IS LITTLE TO
00:09:56NO INCENTIVE FOR THOSE OUTSIDE
OUR FIELD TO ENTER THE
00:09:59EDUCATION SPACE, AND THIS FUND
IS A STEP TOWARD MORE
00:10:02COLLABORATIVE PROBLEM SOLVING
WITH NEW PARTNERS.
00:10:04THERE WAS ALSO THIS FROM THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, FROM DAVID
00:10:08JAMES, THE SUPERINTENDENT OF
THE AKRON CITY SCHOOLS.
00:10:11I DEFINITELY WANT TO BE A
PARTNER IN FINDING MORE WAYS TO
00:10:15BUILD A WORLD-CLASS EDUCATION
SYSTEM.
00:10:17WHETHER YOU ARE A LARGE, MEDIUM
OR SMALL DISTRICT, THE FOCUS
00:10:19MUST BE ON THE CHILD.
PRIORITIZING FUNDING FOR THEIR
00:10:23PARTICULAR NEEDS IS THE RIGHT
APPROACH.
00:10:24FOR THOSE STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCES, WHETHER THEY ARE
00:10:27LIVING IN POVERTY, ARE
DISABLED, OR GIFTED, OR ARE
00:10:31LEARNING TO SPEAK ENGLISH, WE
MUST ENSURE THESE STUDENTS GET
00:10:34THE EXTRA HELP THEY NEED.
THE STUDENTSFIRST OHIO GROUP, A
00:10:38SCHOOL CHOICE ORGANIZATION LED
BY CONTROVERSIAL FORMER D.C.
00:10:42SCHOOLS CHANCELLOR MICHELLE
RHEE, PUT OUT A STATEMENT FROM
00:10:44DIRECTOR GREG HARRIS.
THE PLAN PROCESSES FACILITIES
00:10:48SUPPORT FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS AND
EXPANSION OF SCHOOL CHOICE,
00:10:51WHICH WILL GIVE PARENTS LIVING
IN POVERTY MORE OPTIONS FOR
00:10:54THEIR CHILDREN.
THE PROPOSED INNOVATION FUND TO
00:10:57SEED BETTER USE OF TECHNOLOGY
AND NEW CLASSROOM PRACTICES
00:11:01SHOULD FURTHER ENHANCE
EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY.
00:11:03AS DETAILS EMERGE ABOUT THE
CHANGES TO MILL RATES AND THE
00:11:07EQUAL YIELD FORMULA,
STUDENTSFIRST LOOKS FORWARD TO
00:11:11WORKING WITH GOVERNOR KASICH
AND THE OHIO GENERAL ASSEMBLY
00:11:13TO ENSURE THESE CHANGES HAVE
THEIR INTENDED EFFECT OF
00:11:16HELPING DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES.
00:11:18BUT, OF COURSE, NOT ALL THE
REACTION WAS POSITIVE.
00:11:21OHIO DEMOCRATIC PARTY CHAIRMAN
CHRIS REDFERN, WHO IS ALSO A
00:11:25MEMBER OF THE OHIO HOUSE, HAD
THIS TO SAY IN A STATEMENT.
00:11:28IT'S ALARMING THAT GOVERNOR
KASICH DRAFTED THIS PROPOSAL IN
00:11:31SECRET, WITHOUT THE INPUT OF
EDUCATION STAKEHOLDERS AND
00:11:35CHOICE TO MAKE PERMANENT HIS
HISTORIC 2011 CUTS THAT SLASHED
00:11:39NEARLY $1.8 BILLION FROM
STUDENTS AND SCHOOLS AROUND THE
00:11:42STATE.
ACCORDING TO AN INDEPENDENT
00:11:45STUDY, JOHN KASICH'S DECISION
TO DRAMATICALLY DEFUND OHIO'S
00:11:50EDUCATION PROGRAM HAS ALREADY
CAUSED TAXPAYERS IN OVER 194
00:11:54COMMUNITIES TO FACE MORE THAN
$1 BILLION IN NEW TAX
00:11:58INITIATIVES AT THE BALLOT.
KASICH'S EDUCATION PLAN
00:12:01GUARANTEES THAT THE STATE WILL
CONTINUE TO WITHHOLD FUNDING,
00:12:05LOCAL TAXPAYERS WITH SEE EVEN
MORE LEVIES IN ADDITION TO THE
00:12:08$1 BILLION THEY'VE ALREADY
FACED, AND OUR CHILDREN'S
00:12:10OPPORTUNITIES WILL BE
COMPROMISED IN THE FUTURE.
00:12:14AND THE DAY BEFORE THE
GOVERNOR'S PLAN WAS PROPOSED, A
00:12:17TRIO OF HOUSE DEMOCRATS
OUTLINED WHAT THEY SAY ARE
00:12:20THREE COMPONENTS THAT NEED TO
BE PART OF ANY SUCCESSFUL
00:12:23EDUCATION REFORM.
REPRESENTATIVES TERESA FEDOR OF
00:12:27TOLEDO, MATT LUNDY AND DEBBIE
PHILLIPS SAID EARLY LEARNING
00:12:32PROGRAMS, LOCAL PROPERTY TAX
RELIEF AND MORE ACCOUNTABILITY
00:12:34FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS WERE
CRITICAL TO EDUCATION REFORMS
00:12:37AS THEY SEE IT.
>> AND I THINK IF THIS
00:12:40ADMINISTRATION WOULD LOOK AT
EDUCATION IS ECONOMIC
00:12:43DEVELOPMENT, ALL I EVER HEAR
AROUND THESE HALLS ARE JOBS
00:12:47OHIO THIS, JOBS OHIO THAT, I
DON'T HEAR EDUCATION IS
00:12:52ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO START F
00:12:54WE MAKE IT A PRIORITY, THEN WE
FIND THE DOLLARS.
00:12:56>> I THINK INSTEAD OF CREATING
GUARANTEES THAT ARE UNFUNDED,
00:13:00WE NEED A GUARANTEE THAT IT
MEANS SOMETHING THROUGH
00:13:04FUNDING.
SCHOOLS NEED THE PROPER TOOLS
00:13:06AND THE PROPER FUNDING TO DO
THEIR JOBS.
00:13:09ALL THE LETSTION THAT SEEMED TO
PASS IN THIS LAST GENERAL
00:13:12ASSEMBLY WAS BASICALLY A SERIES
OF UNFUNDED MANDATES THAT
00:13:17SCHOOLS ARE LEFT WITHOUT THOSE
RESOURCES TO ACCOMPLISH THEM,
00:13:20IT JUST PUTS A GREATER SQUEEZE
ON EVERYBODY.
00:13:23>> THERE NEED TO BE REAL
REFORMS THAT ARE BASED ON THE
00:13:26EVIDENCE OF WHAT WORKS TO HELP
STUDENTS IMPROVE ACADEMICALLY.
00:13:31IT CAN'T JUST BE RHETORIC AND
HOPE THAT CHANGING THINGS IS
00:13:35SOMEHOW GOING TO PRODUCE A
BETTER RESULT.
00:13:37IT HAS TO BE BASED ON EVIDENCE
OF WHAT WE KNOW WILL BE
00:13:42EFFECTIVE FOR STUDENTS, AND THE
RESOURCES HAVE TO BE THERE TO
00:13:46PROVIDE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
IF YOU JUST SAY TO SCHOOLS YOU
00:13:51MUST ACHIEVE AT THESE LEVELS
AND DON'T PROVIDE THE RESOURCES
00:13:54TO MAKE SURE THAT KIDS HAVE
THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, IT'S
00:13:57MEANINGLESS.
>> 40% FAILURE RATE.
00:14:02IT'S THE OPPOSITE FOR
TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
00:14:0540% SUCCESS RATE.
THOSE DOLLARS ARE SO CRITICAL
00:14:09TO BE PUT IN THE RIGHT PLACES,
TO BE PUT IN QUALITY PROGRAMS
00:14:14THAT ARE GOING TO WORK AND NOT
MAKE IT SO POLITICAL.
00:14:18NOT IDEOLOGY, BUT LET'S LOOK AT
THE RESEARCH THAT'S PEER
00:14:21REVIEWED AND LET'S BE HONEST
AND NOT JUST POLITICAL.
00:14:25>> THE MORE THAT WE CUT PUBLIC
EDUCATION, THE GREATER THE
00:14:29RELIANCE IS ON LOCAL PROPERTY
TAXES.
00:14:31THE MORE THAT WE SHIFT DOLLARS,
YOU KNOW, FOLLOW THE STUDENT,
00:14:34THAT MEANS HIGHER PROPERTY
TAXES.
00:14:38THE MORE THAT WE MOVE AWAY FROM
CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOOL FUNDING,
00:14:42YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO WHEN I
TALK TO RESIDENTS IN THE
00:14:45COMMUNITY, THEY COME TO ME AND
SAY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
00:14:48SCHOOL FUNDING.
IT'S, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MY
00:14:51PROPERTY TAXES.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE DISCUSSION
00:14:53ALWAYS BEGINS.
AND WE JUST HAVE REACHED A
00:14:55POINT IN OHIO WHERE WE'RE
SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY A VERY
00:15:00WEALTHY COMMUNITY, A NINE MILL
LEVY JUST WENT DOWN.
00:15:04YOU KNOW, WE'RE REACHING THAT
THRESHOLD WHERE THE MILLEDGE
00:15:06NOW HAS TO BE SO HIGH TO MAKE
UP FOR THE DIFFERENCE THAT THE
00:15:10COMMUNITY IS SAYING WE JUST
CAN'T SUPPORT IT.
00:15:12>> THE THREE SAID DEMOCRATS
WERE NOT TOLD OF ANY OF THE
00:15:16PROPOSALS OF THE SCHOOL FUNDING
FORMULA BEFORE IT WAS RELEASED
00:15:19BUT SAID THEIR CONSTITUENCIES,
INCLUDING URBAN AND RURAL
00:15:22SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND UNIONIZED
TEACHERS HAVE IDEAS, AND THEY
00:15:25SAY THEY HOPE THEY GET TO OFFER
THEM.
00:15:27THE SCHOOL FUNDING FORMULA IS
JUST A PART OF THE GOVERNOR'S
00:15:30BUDGET, WHICH IS EXPECTED ON
MONDAY.
00:15:32A FEW HOURS BEFORE HIS FUNDING
FORMULA WAS REVEALED, THE
00:15:36GOVERNOR WAS MAKING NEWS ON
THAT TOPIC.
00:15:38GOVERNOR KASICH APPEARED BEFORE
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
00:15:41LEGISLATIVE PREVIEW SESSION AT
THE MOYER JUDICIAL CENTER A
00:15:44BLOCK AWAY FROM THE STATEHOUSE
EARLY THURSDAY.
00:15:46HE WAS ASKED ABOUT SOMETHING I
ASKED BUDGET DIRECTOR TIM KEEN
00:15:50ON THIS SHOW RECENTLY ABOUT
WHETHER THE GOVERNOR WAS
00:15:52CONSIDERING EXPANDING MEDICAID.
AND GOVERNOR KASICH HINTED THAT
00:15:56HE JUST MIGHT HAVE PUT THAT IN
THE BUDGET.
00:15:58>> I DON'T VIEW THIS AS
OBAMACARE AT ALL.
00:16:02OBAMACARE, YOU KNOW, INVOLVING
AN INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.
00:16:07I DON'T SUPPORT OLE MISSCARE
THAT'S GOING TO COME IN AND
00:16:11ELIMINATE THE ABILITY TO HAVE
AN INSURANCE RATING SYSTEM AND
00:16:15TO COME IN AND DICTATE THAT, I
DON'T SUPPORT AT ALL.
00:16:19BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE AT
00:16:24THE LOWER ECONOMIC END.
THIS IS ABOUT A GOVERNMENT
00:16:27THAT'S PROPOSING TO PAY 100% OF
THOSE COSTS FOR THREE YEARS,
00:16:31AND THEN IT DROPS TO 90%, BUT,
OF COURSE, THE CURRENT MEDICAID
00:16:36SYSTEM REIMBURSES US AT ABOUT
62%.
00:16:40SO MY CONCERN?
MY CONCERN ABOUT IT ALL IS CAN
00:16:45YOU TRUST WASHINGTON TO KEEP
ANY PROMISE THAT THEY MAKE?
00:16:47>> THE GOVERNOR WAS ALSO ASKED
ABOUT HIS DECISION TO GO AHEAD
00:16:51AND SELL BONDS TO FUND THE
STATE'S LEASE OF ITS LIQUOR
00:16:54PROFITS TO JOBSOHIO AS THE OHIO
SUPREME COURT IS POISED TO TAKE
00:16:59UP PROGRESS OHIO'S LAWSUIT OVER
THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF
00:17:04JOBSOHIO.
AFTER FIRST SAYING THAT THOSE
00:17:05WHO ARE CRITICAL OF JOBSOHIO,
ARE QUOTING HERE, "NIHILISTS
00:17:10THAT WANT TO DESTROY ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT IN OHIO," THE
00:17:14GOVERNOR SOUNDED OFF.
>> CAN YOU TELL ME WHY SOMEBODY
00:17:16KEEPS APPEALING DECISIONS?
WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO DO?
00:17:19THIS IS NOT ABOUT
CONSTITUTIONALITY?
00:17:21THIS IS ABOUT WRECKING OHIO'S
ECONOMY AND DESTROYING PEOPLE'S
00:17:23JOBS.
THAT'S WHAT THIS LAWSUIT IS
00:17:26ABOUT.
THERE'S NO LEGITIMACY TO THIS.
00:17:30CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE.
COME ON.
00:17:32THAT'S A POLITICAL ISSUE
DESIGNED TO WRECK THE PROGRESS
00:17:36THAT WE'RE HAVING IN OHIO.
THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING
00:17:38TO HAVE TO ANSWER TO A MUCH
HIGHER POWER THAN ME ABOUT WHY
00:17:42THEY HAVE APPEALED AND APPEALED
AND APPEALED.
00:17:47THIS COURT JUST THREW FOUR OF
THEIR ISSUES OUT.
00:17:49THERE'S ONLY ONE LEFT STANDING,
AND THERE HAVE BEEN TWO COURTS,
00:17:52INDEPENDENT COURTS, THAT HAVE
RULED THAT WAY.
00:17:54THIS IS AN EFFORT TO BLOCK
PROGRESS IN THIS STATE.
00:17:57AND THIS HAS BEEN AN EFFORT TO
DESTROY JOBS IN THIS STATE.
00:18:01AND SHAME ON THEM.
>> OUR BILL COHEN FOLLOWED UP A
00:18:04FEW MINUTES LATER.
>> YOU MADE A VERY STRONG
00:18:08ACCUSATION YOU DID NOT SAY THAT
FOES OF JOBSOHIO WHO KEEPS
00:18:12SUING SIMPLY HAVE A DIFFERENT
TACTIC OR STRATEGY ON HOW TO
00:18:16CREATE JOBS.
YOU SAID THAT THEY WERE
00:18:19PURPOSEFULLY TRYING TO WRECK
OHIO'S ECONOMY.
00:18:21>> I BELIEVE THAT.
I BELIEVE THESE PEOPLE THAT
00:18:24KEEP SUING AND INTERVENING AND
TRYING TO PUT LAWSUITS IN AND
00:18:28QUESTIONING CONSTITUTIONALITY
WHICH IS SILLY, AND WE'VE
00:18:31ALREADY HAD TWO COURTS RULE,
INDEPENDENT COURTS RULE AGAINST
00:18:34THEM, THEY'RE OBSTRUCTIONISTS.
AND THEY'RE USING -- THEY USE
00:18:37THESE TACTICS TO TRY TO DESTROY
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SO SOMEHOW
00:18:42THEY CAN GET BACK IN POWER.
>> A FEW HOURS AFTER THAT, THE
00:18:45STATE'S TOP LAWMAKERS IN THE
OHIO HOUSE AND SENATE WERE IN
00:18:48THE SAME ROOM THE GOVERNOR HAD
BEEN AND WERE ASKED TO REACT TO
00:18:51THAT.
HOUSE MINORITY LEADER ARMOND
00:18:54BUDISH AT FIRST ADDRESSED THE
QUESTION OF WHETHER THE
00:18:58LAWSUITS CHALLENGING THE
CONSTITUTIONALITY OF JOBSOHIO
00:19:01ARE FAIR.
>> WE HAD SEVERAL OF OUR
00:19:07ATTORNEY MEMBERS TALK ABOUT THE
YOU CONSTITUTIONAL PROBLEMS
00:19:12WITH THE BILL, MAKING IT --
REMOVING ACCOUNTABILITY AND
00:19:19SUNSHINE AND ETHICS LAWS FROM
THE PRIVATE ORGANIZATION AND
00:19:25THOSE ISSUES HAVE NOT GONE
AWAY.
00:19:28I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE
PROGRESS OHIO CASE IS A NUSE
00:19:32ANN CASE.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
00:19:35SUPREME COURT RULING.
AND HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
00:19:40THE PEOPLE OF OHIO TO GET A
RULING ON THE MERITS OF THE
00:19:43CASE.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN A RULING ON
00:19:46THE MERITS YET, AND I THINK
THERE'S SOME VERY REAL ISSUES
00:19:49THERE.
TO CALL IT A NUISANCE CASE IS,
00:19:52I THINK, UNFAIR.
>> BUT WHEN PRESSED TO RESPOND
00:19:55TO THE GOVERNOR'S COMMENTS
ABOUT DEMOCRATS WANTING TO
00:19:58WRECK THE ECONOMY TO GET BACK
INTO POWER, HOUSE SPEAKER BILL
00:20:03BATCHELDER REACTED SIMPLY AND
STRONGLY.
00:20:05>> IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE
LEGISLATURE, OBVIOUSLY, YOU
00:20:08CAN'T TALK THAT WAY.
IT'S NOT POLITE.
00:20:11>> SENATE MINORITY LEADER ERIC
KEARNEY OF CINCINNATI ALSO
00:20:14NOTED THAT RULE.
>> I WOULD JUST ASK THE
00:20:17GOVERNOR TO PERHAPS USE THAT
RULE WHEN TALKING ABOUT MEMBERS
00:20:21OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, AS
WELL I THINK IT'S PRETTY ABSURD
00:20:26TO SAY THAT AS A GROUP OF
PEOPLE DEMOCRATIC LEGISLATORS
00:20:34OR DEMOCRATIC CITIZENS DON'T
WANT TO SEE OHIO'S ECONOMY
00:20:37IMPROVE.
THERE'S MORE THAN ONE WAY TO
00:20:40IMPROVE THE OHIO ECONOMY.
THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT
00:20:44THEORIES.
THAT'S WHY THERE THERE'S NOT
00:20:46JUST ONE ECONOMIST OR ONE
SCHOOL OF ECONOMY -- OR SCHOOL
00:20:49OF ECONOMICS.
AND SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE
00:20:53NEED TO TAKE A CAUTIOUS
APPROACH WHEN ANALYZING OTHER
00:21:00PEOPLE OR WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE
OTHER PEOPLE'S MOTIVATIONS.
00:21:03>> THE LEGISLATORS WERE ALSO
ASKED ABOUT GUN LAWS IN OHIO.
00:21:07KEARNEY STARTED OFF BY TALKING
ABOUT A FAMILY FRIEND WHO HAD
00:21:09BEEN KILLED IN A GUN VIOLENCE
INCIDENT THE NIGHT BEFORE, BUT
00:21:13NOTED THAT EVEN AMONG DEMOCRATS
THERE ARE LOTS OF QUESTIONS TO
00:21:15ANSWER ABOUT REGULATING GUNS.
>> I THINK THAT MY CAUCUS IS
00:21:19TRYING TO WRESTLE WITH THOSE
COMPONENTS, BECAUSE WE HAVE
00:21:23PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE
ISSUE IN OUR CAUCUS, AND
00:21:26THEY'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP
LEGISLATION THAT'S FAIR AROUND
00:21:29THAT ISSUE.
SENATOR SMITH FROM THE
00:21:32CLEVELAND AREA IS TAKING THE
LEAD FOR OUR CAUCUS ON THIS
00:21:35ISSUE, AND SHE'S MEETING WITH
GROUPS SUCH AS THE N.R.A., THE
00:21:41BUCKEYE FIREARMS ASSOCIATION,
AND THERE'S ANOTHER GROUP WITH
00:21:47WHICH -- WITH WHOM SHE'S
MEETING.
00:21:51I'M NOT SURE, BUT PERHAPS THAT
IS THE NAME OF THE GROUP.
00:21:53AND SO SHE'S GOING TO INTRODUCE
LEGISLATION AROUND THAT ISSUE.
00:21:58AND I IMAGINE A NUMBER OF
PEOPLE, BUT NOT OUR ENTIRE
00:22:01CAUCUS, WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF
THAT MEASURE.
00:22:04>> SENATE PRESIDENT KEITH FABER
SAID HE HOPED TO HAVE HEARINGS
00:22:06ON THE ISSUE.
>> I HAVE NEVER BEEN A
00:22:09PROPONENT OF ONE SIZE FITS ALL,
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
00:22:12THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY
CAREFUL ABOUT IS TRYING TO FIND
00:22:15SIMPLE OUT-OF-THE-BOX SOLUTIONS
TO A VERY COMPLEX PROBLEM.
00:22:18AND SO I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO
TAKE SOME LOCAL AUTONOMY, SOME
00:22:23LOCAL DISCRETION, SOME LOCAL
OPTIONS FOR EACH COMMUNITY AND
00:22:26EACH SCHOOL DISTRICT TO SOLVE
AND HAVE OPTIONS TO ADDRESS
00:22:29THEIR SCHOOL SAFETY NEEDS.
>> FABER ALSO SAID HE'S VERY
00:22:32INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT MENTAL
HEALTH PROGRAMS AND FUNDING AS
00:22:35IT RELATES TO GUN VIOLENCE AND
SCHOOL SHOOTINGS.
00:22:38THAT WAS GOOD NEWS TO HOUSE
MINORITY LEADER BUDISH.
00:22:42>> I WAS OUTSPOKEN IN MY
CRITICISM IN THE LAST BUDGET
00:22:45ABOUT THE HUGE CUTS TO MENTAL
HEALTH SERVICES.
00:22:50I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TAKE A
VERY LONG LOOK AT RESTORING AS
00:22:55MUCH OF THAT AS WE CAN, MAYBE
GOING BEYOND, THAT'S AN AREA
00:23:00THAT I THINK DEMOCRATS AND
REPUBLICANS CAN AGREE ON.
00:23:03>> SPEAKER BATCHELDER SAID HE'S
CONCERNED WITH WHAT'S GOING ON
00:23:07IN URBAN AREA WITH REGARD TO
GUNS, BUT BECAUSE OHIO IS VERY
00:23:11DIVERSE, HE WANTS TO LOOK AT
THE ISSUE OF GUNS AND GUN
00:23:14REGULATIONS IN A BROADWAY.
>> AND WE DO HAVE A GREAT
00:23:16CONCERN THAT WE DO NOT LOSE A
VERY IMPORTANT CONSTITUTIONAL
00:23:20RIGHT AS A RESULT OF AN EFFORT
TO TRY TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHICH
00:23:27MIGHT GET OVERSOLVED IN A SENSE
THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE
00:23:31TO PROTECT THEMSELVES USING
FIREARMS, TOO.
00:23:33>> THE LAWMAKERS WERE ALSO
ASKED ABOUT ELECTION LAWS.
00:23:36FABER SAID THEY'LL BE A
PRIORITY IN THE SENATE, WITH
00:23:39CHANGE NECESSARY REDISTRICTING
NEAR THE TOP OF THE LIST.
00:23:42BUDISH HAS SAID HE FEELS
REDISTRICTING IS THE NUMBER ONE
00:23:45ISSUE FACING OHIO, AND HE SAYS
THIS PAST ELECTION PROVES IT.
00:23:50>> IN 2012, NOBODY CAN ARGUE,
IT WAS A DEMOCRAT YEAR.
00:23:55PRESIDENT OBAMA WON.
SENATOR BROWN WON.
00:23:59IN THE STATE HOUSE RACES THAT
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH,
00:24:03DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES RECEIVED
150,000 MORE VOTES THAN
00:24:08REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES, AND YET
REPUBLICANS DOMINATE IN THE
00:24:11HOUSE.
THEY DOMINATE IN THE SENATE.
00:24:14AND THE CONGRESSIONAL
DELEGATION WILL BE 75%
00:24:18REPUBLICAN.
THAT DOES NOT REFLECT THE VOTES
00:24:20OF THE PEOPLE OF OHIO.
>> BUT BATCHELDER SAID THAT'S
00:24:23NOT ACCURATE.
>> I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME
00:24:27CONFUSION HERE IN THE RESPONSE
OF MY LEARNED COLLEAGUE OF THE
00:24:3499 HOUSE RACES IN 2012, PARDON
ME, 12 OF THEM WERE
00:24:42UNCONTESTED.
THAT IS ONLY ONE DEMOCRAT OR
00:24:46ONE REPUBLICAN WAS RUNNING.
WHEN YOU EXCLUDE THE RACES
00:24:49WHERE THERE WERE NOT CONTESTS,
HOUSE REPUBLICANS EARNED OVER
00:24:53150,000 MORE VOTES THAN THE
DEMOCRATS.
00:24:56TO SAY THAT THE DEMOCRATS WON
THE POPULAR VOTE, TO BE FAIR,
00:25:01IS MISLEADING.
>> WHILE FABER SAID ELECTION
00:25:03LAW CHANGES ARE LIKELY IN THE
LEGISLATURE THIS SESSION,
00:25:07KEARNEY AND BUDISH SAID THEY'RE
WORRIED ABOUT CHANGES THAT
00:25:10WOULD INCLUDE A PHOTO I.D.
REQUIREMENT FOR VOTERS TO
00:25:14COMBAT VOTER FRAUD.
BUDISH SAYS THAT IS "A SOLUTION
00:25:19TO A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T
EXIST."
00:25:21NEXT WEEK, THE BUDGET.
AND IN TWO WEEKS, THE STATE OF
00:25:23THE STATE SPEECH, WHICH IS SET
FOR :30 ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 19
00:25:28IN LIMEA.
WE'LL HAVE COVERAGE OF BOTH.
00:25:30AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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