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00:00:25SCHOOLS FOR EVERY CHILD.
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00:00:29>> A MEMORIAL THAT'S GENERATED
SOME CONTROVERSY IS APPROVED FOR
00:00:42THE STATEHOUSE GROUNDS, BUT ONE
LAWMAKER SAYS HE'S RESIGNING
00:00:44OVER THE DEBATE.
AND NEXT YEAR'S BALLOT COULD
00:00:46INCLUDE AN AMENDMENT TO LEGALIZE
SAME SEX MARRIAGE, THOUGH GAY
00:00:48RIGHTS GROUPS ARE SPLIT ON
WHETHER A VOTE JUST TEN YEARS
00:00:50AFTER AN ANTI-GAY MARRIAGE
AMENDMENT WAS APPROVED.
00:00:51TWO OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL
ACTIVISTS IN THE DEBATE SIT
00:00:55DOWN TOGETHER TO HASH IT OUT.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:00:57OHIO."
CAPTIONED BY THE
00:01:04NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE
--WWW.NCICAP.ORG--
00:01:06>> A PLANNED HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL
HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE AGENCY
00:01:10THAT MANAGES THE STATEHOUSE
GROUNDS, BUT THE DEBATE OVER
00:01:11THAT STRUCTURE HAS LED TO THE
RESIGNATION OF THE FORMER
00:01:13LAWMAKER WHO'S KNOWN FOR HIS
COMMITMENT TO CAPITOL SQUARE.
00:01:14THE CAPITOL SQUARE REVIEW AND
ADVISORY BOARD VOTED TO APPROVE
00:01:21A DESIGN FOR THE PRIVATELY
FUNDED PROJECT, WHICH WAS
00:01:22INITIALLY PROPOSED BY GOVERNOR
JOHN KASICH AND WOULD BE THE
00:01:24FIRST HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL AT A
US STATEHOUSE.
00:01:26BUT FORMER SENATE PRESIDENT
RICHARD FINAN, WHO HEADS THE
00:01:30CAP SQUARE BOARD, OPPOSES THE
MEMORIAL BECAUSE HE DOESN'T
00:01:33FEEL IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE
CIVIL-WAR ERA STATEHOUSE.
00:01:36HE TOLD OHIO PUBLIC RADIO'S
ANDY CHOW IT'S TIME FOR HIM TO
00:01:40LEAVE BECAUSE OF THE INFLUENCE
HE FEELS LAWMAKERS AND THE
00:01:43GOVERNOR ARE EXERTING ON THE
AGENCY.
00:01:46>> THE CAP SQUARE REVIEW AND
ADVISORY BOARD WAS SET UP BACK
00:01:51IN THE EARLY 90S.
THE PURPOSE WAS TO BE THE
00:01:55INTERFACE BETWEEN THE
LEGISLATURE, THE TENANTS THAT
00:01:58ARE IN THE BUILDING, AND THE
BUILDING ITSELF.
00:01:59OUR IDEA WAS WE'D HAVE THIS
INDEPENDENT BODY THAT WOULD
00:02:03MAKE THE DECISIONS AND, IN THE
BEST INTEREST OF THE BUILDING,
00:02:06I THINK THAT THAT HAS BEEN
ERODED OVER THE LAST YEAR OR
00:02:09TWO.
I FEEL THAT I HAVE NO SAY SO IN
00:02:11IT ANYMORE AND I HAVE NO POWER
TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND SO
00:02:21IT'S TIME TO QUIT.
>> FINAN DEPARTS THE CAP SQUARE
00:02:25BOARD IN OCTOBER, AND SAYS HIS
REPLACEMENT MUST BE ANOTHER
00:02:28FORMER SENATE PRESIDENT.
MEANWHILE, A GROUP CALLED THE
00:02:30FREEDOM FROM RELIGION
FOUNDATION SAYS IT'S CONSIDERING
00:02:32A LAWSUIT IF THE MEMORIAL IS
CONSTRUCTED WHICH IS CARVED INTO
00:02:39THE SCULPTURE IN RENDERINGS OF
WHAT THE FINAL PROJECT MIGHT
00:02:43LOOK LIKE.
AND NOW IT'S A SAFE BET THAT
00:02:49FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL RICHARD
CORDRAY WILL NOT BE RUNNING FOR
00:02:53THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR
GOVERNOR NEXT YEAR.
00:02:55CORDRAY WAS CONFIRMED AS HEAD
OF THE FEDERAL CONSUMER
00:02:59FINANCIAL PROTECTION BUREAU THIS
WEEK AFTER MORE THAN TWO YEARS
00:03:02OF WAITING.
CORDRAY'S CONFIRMATION WAS PART
00:03:06OF A DEAL IN THE SENATE TO
DISLODGE A NUMBER OF OBAMA
00:03:09NOMINATIONS THAT HAD FACED
REPUBLICAN OPPOSITION.NEXT
00:03:13YEAR'S BALLOT WILL BE A HUGE
ONE.
00:03:15ALL FIVE OF THE STATE EXECUTIVE
OFFICES STARTING WITH GOVERNOR
00:03:18ARE ON THAT TICKET, ALONG WITH
THE ENTIRE OHIO HOUSE, A THIRD
00:03:23OF THE OHIO SENATE, AND THE
ENTIRE OHIO US CONGRESSIONAL
00:03:26DELEGATION.
AND WITH BIG CANDIDATE RACES
00:03:29OFTEN COME BIG BALLOT ISSUES.
ONE THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT
00:03:32FOR NEXT YEAR IS AN AMENDMENT
THAT WOULD ALLOW OHIO TO JOIN
00:03:3513 STATES IN RECOGNIZING AND
ALLOWING LEGAL MARRIAGE FOR
00:03:40SAME-SEX COUPLES.
IT'S POTENTIALLY A STUNNING
00:03:43TURNAROUND, CONSIDERING OHIO
VOTERS APPROVED AN AMENDMENT
00:03:46THAT DEFINED MARRIAGE AS ONLY
BETWEEN ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.
00:03:49AND THAT WAS ON TOP OF A STATE
LAW THAT WAS SIGNED THAT SAME
00:03:55YEAR THAT DID THE SAME THING.
THE GROUP FREEDOMOHIO IS
00:03:59MARCHING TOWARD NEXT YEAR'S
BALLOT, AND GRABBING HEADLINES
00:04:02WITH THE SUPPORT THEY'RE
GETTING FROM DEMOCRATIC MAYORS
00:04:04AND ELECTED OFFICIALS, FROM
FAITH AND COMMUNITY LEADERS, AND
00:04:11MOST RECENTLY FROM JIM PETRO,
THE FORMER AUDITOR, ATTORNEY
00:04:23GENERAL, REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE
FOR GOVERNOR AND HIGHER ED
00:04:29CHANCELLOR UNDER GOVERNOR JOHN
KASICH.
00:04:31BUT STATE AND NATIONAL
ACTIVISTS FOR LESBIAN, GAY,
00:04:35BISEXUAL AND TRANSGENDERED
RIGHTS SAY THEY'RE VERY
00:04:37CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER THE TIME
IS RIGHT TO ASK OHIO VOTERS THIS
00:04:39QUESTION NOW, WITH JUST A DECADE
BETWEEN THE LAST VOTE ON THE
00:04:41ISSUE AND THIS ONE AND WITH SO
MUCH ATTENTION AND LIKELY SO
00:04:51MUCH MONEY BEING PUT INTO NEXT
YEAR'S CAMPAIGNS IN GENERAL.
00:04:53HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBLE
SAME-SEX MARRIAGE BALLOT ISSUES
00:04:57ARE ARGUABLY THE TWO MOST
DEBATE, DISCUSSING IT TOGETHER
00:05:01ON THE SAME SHOW FOR THE FIRST
TIME.
00:05:02IAN JAMES IS A LONGTIME
POLITICAL STRATEGIST AND LEADS
00:05:04FREEDOMOHIO.
ELYZABETH HOLFORD IS THE OHIO,
00:05:05THE STATE'S LARGEST LGBT
ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION.
00:05:07>> THE ISSUE, FOR YOU, IS THE
TIMING.
00:05:12THE POLLS SHOW ALL TERRORISTS
ARE SUPPORTIVE OF SAME-SEX
00:05:16MARRIAGE RIGHT NOW.
48% TO A 4%.
00:05:2210 YEARS AGO, MORE VOTERS
OPPOSED IT.
00:05:29THAT SUGGESTS THIS ISSUE IS TO
BEEN CLOSE TO CALL RIGHT NOW.
00:05:32WHY RISK THIS?
>> WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS A TREND
00:05:40LINE MOVING FURTHER AND FURTHER
INTO SUPPORT FOR MARRIAGE
00:05:45EQUALITY.
IT IS CLEAR THAT PEOPLE LIKE THE
00:05:49IDEA OF THE FREEDOM TO MARRY
AMENDMENT.
00:05:53THEY LIKE THE FACT THAT IT IS SO
EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND IS
00:05:58UNAMBIGUOUS.
IT TAKES AWAY THE DEFENSE OF
00:06:05MARRIAGE ACT IN OHIO AND REMOVES
THE AMENDMENT FROM THE STATE OF
00:06:09OHIO.
THE CHANCE TO MARRY IN A
00:06:15COURTHOUSE WHILE PROTECTING AND
RESPECTING RELIGIOUS FREEDOM,
00:06:18THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE REALLY LIKE.
>> POLLS SHOW THERE IS A TREND
00:06:22TOWARD THIS.
IN A COMMENTARY IN SUPPORT OF
00:06:27THIS ISSUE, IT WAS SAID THAT
OHIO NEEDS TO PRESENT A MORE
00:06:32DIVERSE STATE TO ENCOURAGE
ECONOMIC GROWTH.
00:06:35NOT VOTING ON THIS NOW MAY HARM
OHIO'S ECONOMIC GROWTH.
00:06:41WHY NOT DO THIS NOW?
>> THERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE
00:06:46BIT OF A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT
TIMING AND HOW WE FEEL ABOUT IT
00:06:50IN OHIO.
I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.
00:06:53THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE.
IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
00:06:56ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS
IMPORTANT LOOKING AT THE POLLS
00:07:02IS WHO WAS ACTUALLY POLLED.
THEY WERE NOT LIKELY REGISTERED
00:07:10VOTERS.
GENERALLY, THERE IS SUPPORT.
00:07:12LET'S NOT JUST TALK ABOUT
TIMING.
00:07:15THERE IS SO MUCH FOCUS ON TINY
RIGHT NOW.
00:07:18WE PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF
AGREEMENT -- THERE IS SO MUCH
00:07:22FOCUS ON TIMING RIGHT NOW.
HOW'D YOU DO A MARRIAGE
00:07:28CAMPAIGN?
ONE OF THE THINGS -- HOW DO YOU
00:07:33DO A MARRIAGE CAMPAIGN.
BENCHMARKS NEED TO BE SET WITH
00:07:38LIKELY REGISTERED VOTERS.
NOT JUST REGISTERED VOTERS, BUT
00:07:43LIKELY REGISTERED VOTERS.
WE HAVE NOT BEEN CONSISTENTLY
00:07:50ABOVE 50%.
WE KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE FROM
00:07:59OTHER BALLOT THE AMENDMENT
STATES THAT YOU HAVE TO BE
00:08:02CONSISTENTLY ABOVE 54%.
WE NEED TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF
00:08:08THIS OF NOT JUST WHO IS ON THE
BALLOTS, BUT WHAT OTHER ISSUES
00:08:13ARE ON THOSE BALLOTS.
WE ARE WORKING WITH THE
00:08:20INITIATIVE STRATEGY CENTERS.
HOW DO WE MOVE THIS FORWARD?
00:08:23WHAT IS THE RIGHT TIME.
MORE PEOPLE WILL COME OUT
00:08:28BECAUSE OF WHO IS ON THE BALLOT.
YOU DO THAT IN A NATIONAL
00:08:34CAMPAIGN AND THE NEW MOVES
FORWARD WITH A DATE THAT WORKS
00:08:37BEST FOR WINNING.
ONE THING WE BOTH KNOW IS THAT
00:08:42WE ARE GOING TO GET ONE SHOT AT
THIS AND WE DO NOT WANT TO PUSH
00:08:45IT AWAY.
>> PUTTING MARRIAGE EQUALITY ON
00:08:52THE BALLOT IS A DRIVER FOR
PROGRESSIVE VOTERS AND THOSE WHO
00:08:56WANT TO AFFIRM AND LOOK FOR AN
ASPIRATIONAL BALLOT ISSUE.
00:09:01>> THERE ARE SOME WHO WANT TO
VOTE AGAINST IT.
00:09:05>> THERE WILL BE SOME THAT WILL
COME OUT AGAINST IT A MATTER
00:09:09WHAT.
IT IS A WAY TO CHANGE OHIO.
00:09:15THE REALITY IS THAT WE HAVE
GOOD, SOLID TALENT ON BOARD.
00:09:21WE HAVE THE MEN WHO RAN
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S THE ELECTION
00:09:26CAMPAIGN.
WE HAVE -- PRESIDENT OBAMA'S
00:09:31REELECTION CAMPAIGN.
WE HAVE A REPUBLICAN THAT IS
00:09:37LEADING REPUBLICANS FOR FREEDOM
FOR AMERICA.
00:09:40WE KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN.
WHEN YOU PUT IT ALL TOGETHER,
00:09:46THERE ARE 200 YEARS OF PRACTICAL
POLITICAL EXPERIENCE OF WINNING
00:09:50IN OHIO.
WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO OTHER
00:09:53CAMPAIGNS.
MAINE, MARYLAND, MINNESOTA,
00:09:59WASHINGTON.
WE HAVE TALKED TO CONSULTANTS
00:10:01AND LISTEN TO THEM.
WE HAVE PUT THEM INTO PLACE IN
00:10:06OHIO.
IF THEY HAVE GOOD INFORMATION TO
00:10:09BRING TO OHIO, THIS WILL BE
ABOUT OHIO AND OHIO MOVING
00:10:14FORWARD.
WE ARE WORKING TOWARD ENGAGING
00:10:20VOTERS.
WE DO THAT WITH THE PETITION
00:10:22PROCESS.
IT IS NOT THE END ALL, BE ALL OF
00:10:26THIS.
WITH 200 YEARS OF PRACTICAL
00:10:29EXPERIENCE THAT THE OTHERS BRING
TO THIS CAMPAIGN, THAT IS A LOT.
00:10:37>> THERE IS THE ISSUE OF
NATIONAL GROUPS IN OTHER STATES.
00:10:41THAT WAS A CONFERENCE CALL.
YOU PUT OUT A NEWS RELEASE AFTER
00:10:48A MEETING HERE IN COLUMBUS.
YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO GO
00:10:52FORWARD WITH 2014.
THE HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN
00:10:55SPEARHEADED A CONFERENCE CALL
SAYING NATIONAL GROUPS ARE
00:11:00NERVOUS ABOUT THIS.
THEY FEEL YOU NEED THEM TO BE
00:11:06SUCCESSFUL.
>> THIS IS ABOUT OHIO VOTERS.
00:11:09ALL GAY, LESBIAN, BISEXUAL,
TRANSGENDER VOTERS WANTED THIS.
00:11:16THIS IS ABOUT WINNING WITH
AUTHORITY.
00:11:18EVERYBODY IN OUR ORGANIZATION
AND COMMUNITY WANTS TO HAVE
00:11:25MARRIAGE EQUALITY.
IT IS ABOUT HOW WE MOVES
00:11:29FORWARD.
FOR A LOT OF FOLKS, IT IS WHAT
00:11:34WE HAVE TO DO.
WE HAVE TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.
00:11:36WE HAVE TO BE TACTICALLY SMART
ABOUT IT.
00:11:40WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
PICKING THE RIGHT TIME.
00:11:44WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
BUILDING THE RIGHT TIME -- THE
00:11:49RIGHT TEAM.
I HAVE 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN
00:11:54THIS.
I AM WEIGHING IN.
00:11:58THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE
WEIGHING IN ON THIS.
00:12:05THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS WILL
COME ALONG WHEN PEOPLE ARE READY
00:12:09TO COME ALONG.
>> WILL EQUALITY OHIO BE
00:12:15CAMPAIGNING FOR IT IF IT MAKES
THE BALANCE?
00:12:18-- BALLOT?
>> THAT IS A BRIDGE WE WILL
00:12:25DEFINITELY CROSS IF WE GET THERE
IN 2014.
00:12:27IT IS ANOTHER THING TO ACTUALLY
WORK WITH THEM.
00:12:32WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT
GROUNDSWELL AND HOW THINGS
00:12:36HAPPEN IN OTHER STATES.
IT HAPPENS BECAUSE OF THE WORK
00:12:39DONE IN THE STATES.
IT HAPPENS BECAUSE OF THE
00:12:43EXPERTISE, THE KNOWLEDGE, THE
OPERATIONAL KNOW-HOW TO RUN A
00:12:47MARRIAGE CAMPAIGN.
THERE ARE POLITICAL PEOPLE
00:12:51INVOLVED WHO HAVE DONE OTHER
THINGS IN OHIO.
00:12:55IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT WE CONTINUE
WITH THE SAME EXPERTISE AND
00:13:01OPERATIONAL ABILITY THAT OUR
NATIONAL PARTNERS BRING TO THE
00:13:04TABLE.
WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE POLLING
00:13:10AND WE ARE STARTING THE
PERSUASION CONVERSATIONS.
00:13:14WE ARE WORKING ACROSS THE STATE
WITH THE IDEA AND THE
00:13:18UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU COLLECT
THE SIGNATURES FOR A BALLOT
00:13:23AMENDMENT.
AN EFFORT FOR BALLOT SIGNATURES
00:13:29IS NOT MARRIAGE CONFIRMATION.
I HAVE BEEN VILIFIED BECAUSE I
00:13:38WOULD NOT SIGN ON IN 2013.
2013 WAS NOT REALISTIC.
00:13:43THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR 2014.
WE NEED TO DO OUR HOMEWORK AND
00:13:50HAVE OUR BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
WE NEED TO WORK WITH OUR
00:13:53NATIONAL PARTNERS.
>> THAT ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE
00:13:57CONFERENCE CALL THAT HAPPENED
AFTER YOU MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT.
00:13:59THERE WERE SOME ARGUMENTS MADE
THAT YOU WERE AN OUTLIER.
00:14:03YOU ARE PUSHING FORWARD ON THIS.
SOME STATEMENTS MADE THAT WHAT
00:14:09YOU DID IN MAKING THAT
ANNOUNCEMENT WAS INAPPROPRIATE.
00:14:12IT WAS NOT THE WAY TO BUILD THE
SPIRIT OF TRUST AND COOPERATION
00:14:16WITH ALL THESE GROUPS YOU ARE
GOING TO NEED.
00:14:19EVERY ORGANIZATION IS ALIGNED ON
ONE SIDE OF THE ISSUE, THEY
00:14:25SAID.
HE HAS SELFISH ISSUES --
00:14:30INTERESTS.
THAT SOUNDS PERSONAL.
00:14:32IS IT PERSONAL?
>> IT IS PERSONAL FOR THEM.
00:14:35IT IS ABOUT COUPLES THAT WANT TO
BE ABLE TO BE MARRIED.
00:14:40I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU WIN
MARRIAGE EQUALITY MY NAME
00:14:47CALLING AND VILIFYING A PERSON
WHO IS WORKING AS A VOLUNTEER ON
00:14:50ANY ISSUE AS IMPORTANT AS MAYOR
TO QUALITY.
00:14:51I DID NOT MAKE THE DECISION NOT
TO MOVE FORWARD.
00:14:56THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE FOR
FREEDOM OHIO DECIDED THAT.
00:15:00WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AND THIS
IS THE PRESS RELEASE WE ARE
00:15:05PUTTING OUT THERE.
THE ARGUMENT WAS ABOUT A
00:15:11CAMPAIGN VERSUS THE CAMPAIGN.
THEY CAN HAVE THAT CAMPAIGN.
00:15:16WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH A
CAMPAIGN TO BRING AMERICAN
00:15:22EQUALITY INITIATIVES TO THE
STATE OF OHIO.
00:15:27MARRIAGE IS VERY PERSONAL.
A LOT OF FOLKS ARE LOOKING AT
00:15:32THIS SAYING, WORK TOGETHER,
PLEASE.
00:15:35LET'S MOVE THIS FORWARD.
BUT WIN THIS.
00:15:38SOME PEOPLE DID NOT HAVE THE
TIME.
00:15:40THEY ARE AT THE END OF LIFE.
OTHERS HAVE THEIR WHOLE LIVES
00:15:44AHEAD OF THEM.
THERE IS GOING TO BE
00:15:48DISAGREEMENTS.
EVERYBODY HAS FAMILY.
00:15:50EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT NOT
EVERYBODY GETS ALONG.
00:15:53>> IT IS NOT JUST PERSONAL.
THERE ARE FEELINGS THAT WHAT
00:16:01IAN'S DOING IS FORCING THE ISSUE
TOO SOON.
00:16:06TELL ME ABOUT BEING AN ALLIED
AIR.
00:16:09>> I DO NOT -- TELL ME ABOUT
BEING AN OUTLIER.
00:16:15>> THERE ARE REALLY DIFFICULT
PERSONAL STORIES AROUND OHIO.
00:16:21WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CIVIL
RIGHTS, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
00:16:25THINGS THAT ARE PERSONAL.
THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL PARTS AND
00:16:31THE LGBT COMMITTEE AT LARGE AND
THE LARGER HINCHEY IN --
00:16:39COMMUNITY AT LARGE IN THE LARGER
COMMUNITY IN OHIO.
00:16:43THERE IS A COMMITMENT TO REALLY
TREATING PEOPLE EQUALLY ON A
00:16:49ONE-ON-ONE BASIS.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE DO NOT HAVE
00:16:55ANY STATEWIDE RIGHTS.
WE ARE NOT INTEGRATED.
00:17:00IN THE HATE CRIMES LAW.
WE ARE ONE OF THREE STATES
00:17:08WHICH, IF YOU TRANSITION, YOU
CANNOT CHANGE YOUR GENDER.
00:17:10ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAD TO SUE
FORDOMA.
00:17:17-- FOR DOMA.
THERE IS A LOT IN OHIO THAT
00:17:25NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO
CONSIDERATION.
00:17:26WE HOLD IN TRUST THE RIGHTS OF A
LOT OF PEOPLE AND THE IMAGE OF
00:17:34THIS STATE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
I AM COMING BACK TO THE POINT.
00:17:39WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE
TIMING AND TACTICS.
00:17:42THESE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS.
BUT THE STRATEGY HAS TO BE IN
00:17:50THE TIMING.
SETTING A DATE WHETHER IT HAS
00:17:53BEEN CHANGED BY YOUR EXECUTIVE
COMMITTEE, IT IS NOT REALISTIC.
00:17:57UNTIL WE HAVE OUR NUMBERS UP,
YOU WILL NOT HEAR ME SETTING ANY
00:18:04DATE.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT I
00:18:06KNOW WHAT IT TAKES.
THERE ARE EXAMPLES AROUND THE
00:18:09COUNTRY.
THE OPPOSITION WILL BE OUT IN
00:18:13STRENGTH BECAUSE OF THE SIMPLE
FACT OF, AS OHIO GOES, SO GOES
00:18:19THE COUNTRY.
THERE ARE 29 OTHER STATES
00:18:24SIMILARLY SITUATED.
WE HAVE AN EXTRA BURDEN IN TERMS
00:18:27OF HAVING ALL EYES UPON US.
WE ALSO HAVE EYES ON US IN TERMS
00:18:32OF DOING IT RIGHT.
>> THAT WE ASK YOU ABOUT WHAT
00:18:36YOU ARE ALLUDING TO.
YOU HAVE RIGHT TO LIVE SAYING
00:18:40THEY WANT TO GET INTO THE ISSUE
OF DEBATING.
00:18:43THAT BRINGS UP THE QUESTION THAT
IN 2014, YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF
00:18:52CANDIDATES AND A LOT OF MONEY
AND A LOT OF ATTENTION ON OHIO.
00:18:56WILL YOU HAVE THE MONEY AND THE
BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND
00:19:01EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO GO
FORWARD AND WIN, WHICH IS WHAT
00:19:04EVERYBODY ON YOUR SIDE NEEDS.
>> YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU
00:19:09HAVE THREE THINGS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE SIGNATURES
00:19:14NECESSARY TO QUALIFY.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE POLLING
00:19:18NECESSARY THAT YOU HAVE A CLEAR
-- SHOWING YOU HAVE A CLEAR PATH
00:19:22WAY TO VICTORY.
YOU HAVE TO SHOW WHY THE
00:19:24MAJORITY REPORT.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO SET THAT
00:19:32KIND OF BENCHMARK TO SAY THIS IS
WHERE WE ARE GOING.
00:19:36TO WIN IN OHIO, FROM THE OBAMA
REELECTION DIRECTOR AND OTHER
00:19:46FOES WHO BRING 200 YEARS OF
COLLECTIVE PRACTICAL -- FOLKS
00:19:50WHO BRING POLITICAL -- TO BRING
TO END YEARS OF PRACTICE
00:19:56SYRIANS TO OHIO, WE WILL --
PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE TO OHIO, WE
00:20:02WILL BE WORKING.
THERE IS AN IMPACT ON
00:20:09BUSINESSES.
IT COSTS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR
00:20:14BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE
DOMESTIC PARTNER BENEFITS THAT
00:20:18FAMILIES RELY ON.
WHEN THEY PROVIDE THOSE DOMESTIC
00:20:22PARTNER BENEFITS, THOSE COME
WITH TAXATION.
00:20:25WITHOUT MARRIAGE EQUALITY, THEY
COME WITH TAXATION.
00:20:28IF YOU HAVE MARRIAGE EQUALITY
AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO
00:20:32CONVEY BENEFITS TO A MARRIED
COUPLE, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT
00:20:36TAXATION BENEFIT.
MY POINT OF THAT IS, THERE IS
00:20:43OUTREACH TO BUSINESSES AND TO
PEOPLE WHO TRADITIONALLY DO NOT
00:20:46SAY, I AM 4 ELIZABETH AND IAN --
-- FOR ELIZABETH AND IAN --
00:20:56>> DO YOU HAVE TIME TO DO THAT
IN SUCH A SHORT TIME FRAME?
00:21:02>> WE HAVE TIME TO RAISE MONEY.
IT WILL COST MILLIONS OF
00:21:09DOLLARS.
HOW MUCH?
00:21:10WE DO NOT KNOW YET.
BUT WE DO HAVE THE TIME TO DO
00:21:14THAT.
>> 14 MONTHS SEEMS LIKE AN
00:21:18ETERNITY WHEN YOU ARE FALLING
POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS.
00:21:22DO YOU THINK THAT WILL BE ENOUGH
TIME?
00:21:25>> POTENTIALLY IT IS.
WE DO HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH
00:21:31MONEY CAMPAIGNS COST.
IT DEPENDS ON MANY DIFFERENT
00:21:37THINGS.
OUR POPULATION AS OF 2012 IN
00:21:44OHIO IS A 11.5 MILLION.
WE NEED 1.3 MILLION.
00:21:48IN OUR CAMPAIGN IN 2008, THEY
HAD GONE TO A BALANCED -- GOT TO
00:22:00THE LEGISLATION KNOWING THAT IF
THE WON THE LEGISLATURE WOULD
00:22:03TAKE IT OUT TO A REFERENDUM.
-- WE WON, THE LEGISLATURE WOULD
00:22:11TAKE IT OUT TO A REFERENDUM.
WE HAD 51% IN A PRESIDENTIAL
00:22:18YEAR.
THEY DID NOT THINK THEY LOST
00:22:22THAT REFERENDUM.
IN 2012, IT WAS ALMOST $9
00:22:27MILLION.
THAT IS $6.69 PER PERSON.
00:22:33IT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT WAS
SPENT IN A STATE WITH A
00:22:44POPULATION OF THAT SIZE.
WE COULD GO THROUGH THE BALLOT
00:22:49THE AMENDMENT STATES, WE DO NOT
THINK IT WILL BE THAT HIGH PER
00:22:53PERSON IN OHIO.
WE KNOW WE NEED TO RAISE A LOT
00:22:56OF MONEY.
THE QUESTION IS, CAN WE DO THAT?
00:23:00ABSOLUTELY.
PART OF BAD -- THAT IS BUILDING
00:23:08SUPPORT INTERNALLY AND
EXTERNALLY.
00:23:10IN THE STATE AND OUTSIDE THE
STATE.
00:23:13>> I WANT TO WRAP THIS UP BY
ASKING, IS THIS A TREMENDOUS
00:23:18PERSONAL RISK FOR YOU?
IF THIS FAILS, WOULD YOU GET THE
00:23:22BLAME?
IS IN THEIR FINANCIAL GAIN FOR
00:23:26YOU IF THERE IS A WIN?
-- IS THEIR FINANCIAL GAIN FOR
00:23:32YOU IF THERE IS A WINE FINANCIAL
GAIN -- IS THERE A FINANCIAL
00:23:42GAIN FOR YOU IF THERE IS A WIN?
>> MY HUSBAND AND I ARE BY FAR
00:23:48THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTORS TO THIS
EFFORT.
00:23:50WE ARE LOOKING FOR OTHER PEOPLE
TO CONTINUE TO VOLUNTEER AND
00:23:55HELP OUT WITH THIS PROCESS
MOVING FORWARD.
00:23:57THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
WILL BE HIRED IN THIS CAMPAIGN
00:24:02WHO ARE REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS,
NONPARTISAN.
00:24:05THEY WILL BE INVOLVED IN THIS
CAMPAIGN TO HELP US WIN.
00:24:08IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE I
AM A MARRIED CANDIDATE.
00:24:13I AM LEGALLY MARRIED.
-- I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE
00:24:24STATE TO RECOGNIZE OUR MARRIAGE.
I WANT RECOGNITION FOR ALL
00:24:29FAMILIES WHO WANT TO BE ABLE TO
MARRY AND CARE FOR AND PROTECT
00:24:32THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES,
ESPECIALLY IN A TIME OF CRISIS.
00:24:35>> FINAL THOUGHTS.
I ALSO HAVE A GREAT PASSION FOR
00:24:44MARRIAGE EQUALITY, AS WELL AS
ACHIEVING FULL EQUALITY IN THE
00:24:48STATE OF OHIO.
THAT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT
00:24:51THAT WE NEED TO BE STRATEGIC AND
WE NEED TO HAVE THE BENCHMARK
00:24:55NUMBERS THAT MAKE SENSE AND THAT
HAVE WORKED IN OTHER CAMPAIGNS,
00:25:00WHICH MEANS GETTING CONSISTENTLY
OVER 51%.
00:25:02>> WHEN WE DO THAT, WILL YOU BE
WITH US?
00:25:07>> I WILL BE WORKING TOWARD
MARRIAGE EQUALITY JUST AS I AM
00:25:13NOW.
>>
00:25:16>> NEXT WEEK, A FEW FINAL
THOUGHTS FROM ELYZABETH HOLFORD
00:25:19AND IAN JAMES ON THE TIMELINE
FOR A SAME SEX MARRIAGE BALLOT
00:25:20ISSUE, AND WHEN THE POINT OF NO
RETURN IS FOR A DECISION ON
00:25:22SUCH A PROPOSAL FOR NEXT
YEAR.AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS
00:25:25WEEK.
FOR MY COLLEAGUES AT OHIO PUBLIC
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