There are no markers for this video.
00:00:01TECH-SUPPORT THE STATEWIDE
BROADCAST OF THE STATE OF OHIO
00:00:03COMES FROM THE OFFICES OF
ARTHUR, MORRIS, LLP.
00:00:07ON THE WEB AT PORTER WRIGHT.COM.
AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
00:00:16ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
121,000 TEACHERS, SUPPORT
00:00:19PROFESSIONALS, AND HIGHER
EDUCATION FACULTY COMMITTED TO
00:00:21THE SUCCESS OF EVERY CHILD.
>> THE DEATH PENALTY IS BACK IN
00:00:28THE NEWS BUT THIS TIME FOR
, SOMETHING THAT WON'T HAPPEN.
00:00:31THE SUPREME COURT WILL DECIDE
HOW MUCH TIME CHILDHOOD SEX
00:00:34ABUSE VICTIMS HAVE TO SUE.
AND LOTS OF BILLS, MANY OF THEM
00:00:36CONTROVERSIAL, SEEM TO HAVE NO
CREATORS AT ALL IN THE
00:00:39LEGISLATURE.
I'LL TALK TO A PROGRESSIVE AND A
00:00:41CONSERVATIVE ABOUT HOW IT IS
THAT SO MUCH LEGISLATION CAN
00:00:43MOVE FORWARD WITH APPARENTLY NO
ONE PUSHING IT.
00:00:45ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO".
00:00:58THE INMATE WHO WAS UP NEXT FOR
EXECUTION WILL NOT BE PUT TO
00:01:01DEATH THIS MONTH -- OR EVER.
54 YEAR OLD ARTHUR TYLER WAS
00:01:04GRANTED CLEMENCY BY GOV. JOHN
KASICH THIS WEEK, AFTER THE
00:01:08PAROLE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY
RECOMMENDED THE GOVERNOR COMMUTE
00:01:12HIS SENTENCE.
TYLER WAS CONVICTED OF THE 1983
00:01:15SHOOTING DEATH OF SANDER LEACH
OF CLEVELAND.
00:01:17THE PAROLE BOARD DETERMINED THAT
TYLER LIKELY DID PLAY A ROLE IN
00:01:19LEACH'S MURDER, IT WAS UNCLEAR
WHO ACTUALLY SHOT HIM.
00:01:24BOTH PROSECUTORS AND TYLER'S
ATTORNEYS HAD ARGUED FOR MERCY
00:01:27FOR HIM, SAYING THAT HIS CASE
DOESN'T MEET THE CURRENT
00:01:31STANDARDS FOR THE DEATH PENALTY.
KASICH REDUCED TYLER'S SENTENCE
00:01:36TO LIFE WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY
OF PAROLE, BUT HE REJECTED THE
00:01:39DEFENSE'S REQUESTS THAT TYLER BE
MADE ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE FOR
00:01:47POSSIBLE RELEASE.
WITH THAT PAROLE BOARD
00:01:50RECOMMENDATION IN MIND, ALONG
WITH A BOTCHED EXECUTION IN
00:01:54OKLAHOMA THAT USED ONE OF THE
TWO DRUGS OHIO EMPLOYS FOR
00:02:01EXECUTIONS, THIS WEEK THE
AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION
00:02:06RENEWED ITS CALL FOR A
MORATORIUM ON THE DEATH PENALTY
00:02:07IN OHIO.
THE ACLU WANTS A BAN ON
00:02:10EXECUTIONS TILL NEXT YEAR.
THE CIVIL RIGHTS GROUP ALSO
00:02:12ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK IT'S SUING
THE SECRETARY OF STATE OVER A
00:02:13LAW THAT CUTS A WEEK FROM THE
EARLY VOTING PERIOD.
00:02:15THE ACLU WAS JOINED BY THE NAACP
IN PROTESTING THE SETTING OF
00:02:17UNIFORM VOTING HOURS STATEWIDE,
WHICH THEY SAY DISPROPORTIONALLY
00:02:18AFFECT BLACK VOTERS, WHO THEY
SAY ARE MORE LIKELY TO USE
00:02:27WEEKEND AND EVENING HOURS.
A STATEMENT FROM HUSTED READS IN
00:02:38PART, "IT'S IRONIC THAT
SECRETARY HUSTED IS BEING SUED
00:02:41FOR TREATING ALL VOTERS EQUALLY
AND FOR SUPPORTING A BIPARTISAN
00:02:47VOTING SCHEDULE THAT GIVES
OHIOANS AN ENTIRE MONTH TO CAST
00:02:49BALLOTS.THE ACLU WOULD BE BETTER
SERVED TO FOCUS ON STATES LIKE
00:02:55NEW YORK OR DELAWARE OR MICHIGAN
OR KENTUCKY WHERE THERE'S NO
00:02:57EARLY VOTING AT ALL."
SPEAKING OF CIVIL RIGHTS
00:03:00LAWSUITS, ATTORNEYS WHO SCORED A
WIN WITH A FEDERAL JUDGE OVER
00:03:02BIRTH CERTIFICATES HAVE FILED A
LAWSUIT TO STRIKE DOWN THE
00:03:06STATE'S SAME-SEX MARRIAGE BAN
OUTRIGHT.
00:03:11THE LAWSUIT WAS FILED ON BEHALF
OF SIX SAME-SEX OHIO COUPLES WHO
00:03:14WANT TO GET MARRIED HERE.
A SPOKESWOMAN FOR ATTORNEY
00:03:16GENERAL MIKE DEWINE SAYS THE
OFFICE WILL DEFEND THE GAY
00:03:19MARRIAGE BAN, WHICH WAS PASSED
OVERWHELMINGLY BY OHIO VOTERS IN
00:03:262004.
THE LAWSUIT COMES TWO WEEKS
00:03:28AFTER JUDGE TIMOTHY BLACK RULED
THAT OHIO MUST RECOGNIZE
00:03:30SAME-SEX MARRIAGES PERFORMED IN
OTHER STATES, BUT THAT RULING IS
00:03:33ON HOLD WHILE THE STATE APPEALS
IT.
00:03:37ALMOST A WEEK AFTER THE STATE'S
TOP INVESTIGATOR ISSUED HIS
00:03:40REPORT ON THE COINGATE SCANDAL A
DECADE AGO, THE CHAIR OF THE
00:03:45OHIO DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS PUTTING
OUT HIS OWN REVIEW OF THAT
00:03:50REPORT.
CHRIS REDFERN SAYS NOTHING NEW
00:03:53WAS LEARNED IN THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL'S REPORT ON THE SCANDAL
00:03:56INVOLVING REPUBLICAN FUNDRAISER
TOM NOE, WHO'S IN PRISON FOR
00:03:59STEALING $5 MILLION FROM AN
INVESTMENT IN RARE COINS HE WAS
00:04:02SUPPOSED TO BE MAKING FOR THE
BUREAU OF WORKERS' COMPENSATION.
00:04:05AND REDFERN SAYS THAT'S
UNACCEPTABLE
00:04:07>> PERHAPS THE MOST IMPORTANT
SCANDAL IN THE LAST 40 YEARS HAD
00:04:17BEEN ABSOLUTELY BOTCHED BY THE
SO-CALLED INSPECTOR GENERAL.
00:04:19AND HE SHOULD SUBMIT HIS
RESIGNATION IMMEDIATELY.
00:04:22>> THE COINGATE SCANDAL RESULTED
IN 19 CONVICTIONS, INCLUDING A
00:04:25MISDEMEANOR FOR ETHICS
VIOLATIONS FOR THEN-GOV. BOB
00:04:27TAFT.
INSPECTOR GENERAL RANDY MEYER
00:04:29SAID THIS WEEK THE REPORT WILL
BE REVISED AFTER WHAT HE SAID
00:04:33WAS FAULTY RESEARCH THAT LED HIS
INVESTIGATORS TO CONCLUDE TAFT'S
00:04:36CRIMINAL RECORD WAS SEALED.
TAFT'S RECORD WAS NEVER
00:04:42EXPUNGED.
AND MEYER SAYS HE WON'T STEP
00:04:44DOWN.
THE OHIO SUPREME COURT WILL
00:04:49DECIDE WHETHER A WOMAN WHO SAYS
SHE WAS RAPED IN A JUVENILE JAIL
00:04:55CAN SUE THE STATE.
THE 28 YEAR OLD FRANKLIN COUNTY
00:05:04WOMAN FILED SUIT IN 2012,
CLAIMING SHE WAS RAPED AND
00:05:06ABUSED BY TWO EMPLOYEES WHILE IN
A DELAWARE COUNTY JUVENILE
00:05:08DETENTION CENTER IN 2000 AND
2001.
00:05:09A LAW PASSED IN 2005 GIVES
CHILDHOOD SEXUAL ABUSE VICTIMS
00:05:1112 YEARS PAST THEIR 18TH
BIRTHDAYS TO FILE LAWSUITS.
00:05:21BUT THE STATE'S COURT OF CLAIMS
SAYS THE DEADLINE FOR SUING
00:05:23STATE AGENCIES IS ONLY TWO
YEARS.
00:05:25JILL FLAGG IS HER ATTORNEY, AND
SHE SAID THE CLAIM OF CHILDHOOD
00:05:27SEXUAL ABUSE DICTATES WHICH
DEADLINE IS THE APPROPRIATE ONE.
00:05:34"CHILD SEX ABUSE IS PREDICATED
ON SECRECY, MANIPULATION AND
00:05:37SHAME AND OFTEN INVOLVES DEEP,
PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA.
00:05:39IT TAKES MANY YEARS AND EVEN
DECADES FOR VICTIMS TO COME
00:05:41FORWARD.
THAT'S WHAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY
00:05:45RECOGNIZED WHEN THEY ENACTED
SENATE BILL 17."
00:05:51>> BUT PETER GLENN-APPLEGATE,
REPRESENTING THE DEPARTMENT OF
00:05:53YOUTH SERVICES SAYS THE LAW IS
CLEAR ON THE TWO-YEAR DEADLINE
00:05:54FOR A SUIT INVOLVING THE STATE,
THOUGH SUITS AGAINST INDIVIDUALS
00:05:56WOULD HAVE THE 12 YEAR DEADLINE.
IT WAS OBVIOUS THE JUSTICES HAD
00:06:03LOTS OF QUESTIONS FOR
GLENN-APPLEGATE, AND SOME OF
00:06:09THEIR STATEMENTS SOUNDED
SKEPTICAL AND BORDERED ON
00:06:14SARCASTIC.
HERE'S JUSTICE PAUL PFEIFER
00:06:20ASKING GLENN-APPLEGATE IF
LAWSUITS AGAINST ABUSIVE PUBLIC
00:06:22SCHOOL TEACHERS AND COACHES ARE
HELD TO THE SAME TWO-YEAR
00:06:24STANDARD THAT THE STATE IS
ARGUING FOR.
00:06:26>> THAT SEEMS THE MOST
REASONABLE READING OF THE
00:06:28STATUTE, AND I'D POINT OUT THAT
IT IS ALL ABOUT --
00:06:30>> TO YOU, IT SEEMS THE MOST
REASONABLE READING.
00:06:32>> PARDON ME? I APOLOGIZE.
>> TO YOU IT SEEMS THE MOST
00:06:33REASONABLE READING.
>> THE MOST REASONABLE READING
00:06:35OF THE STATUTE.
NOT THE MOST REASONABLE POLICY
00:06:41NECESSARILY, BUT OF COURSE
POLICY DETERMINATIONS ARE FOR
00:06:47THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
AND HERE'S GLENN-APPLEGATE
00:06:52PRESENTING TO JUSTICE WILLIAM
O'NEILL SOME REASONS FOR THE
00:06:54TWO-YEAR DEADLINE -- THE FIRST,
THAT A SHORT TIME FRAME FOR
00:06:56LAWSUITS HELPS THE STATE
IDENTIFY AND DEAL WITH ABUSERS
00:06:57QUICKLY.
>> THE SECOND ONE IS THAT IT
00:06:58PRESERVES TAXPAYER FUNDS. IN
MENNEFEE V QUEEN CITY METRO,
00:07:00THIS COURT SAID THAT IT IS A
RATIONAL BASIS FOR A STATE
00:07:03PASSING A LAW. THIRD, IT
COMPORTS WITH --
00:07:07>> YOU'LL AGREE THAT'S
OFFENSIVE.
00:07:09>> LUCKILY I HAVE OTHER RATIONAL
BASES AS WELL.
00:07:12>> FORTUNATELY.
THE WOMAN'S ORIGINAL LAWSUIT
00:07:15ASKS FOR $50,000 IN DAMAGES.
THERE'S NO TIMELINE ON WHEN THE
00:07:19SUPREME COURT MIGHT DELIVER A
DECISION.
00:07:21IT'S PART OF EVERY SCHOOL
STUDENT'S EDUCATION -- HOW A
00:07:23BILL BECOMES A LAW.
IT'S DOCUMENTED IN TEXTBOOKS, IN
00:07:29PRESENTATIONS, EVEN IN KIDS'
CARTOONS.
00:07:31BUT AS COUNTLESS MOVIES, PLAYS
AND TV SHOWS HAVE DEMONSTRATED,
00:07:35WHAT WE MAY HAVE LEARNED IN
SCHOOL ABOUT THE PROCESS MAY NOT
00:07:37BEAR MUCH RESEMBLANCE TO HOW IT
ACTUALLY HAPPENS WHEN REAL
00:07:40LAWMAKERS ARE INVOLVED,
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU BRING IN
00:07:43LOBBYISTS, OTHER ELECTED
OFFICIALS, TAXPAYERS, INTEREST
00:07:47GROUPS, POLLS AND MONEY.
AND YET, THIS MOST BASIC OF
00:07:50GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTIONS HAS
BECOME VERY COMPLICATED AND
00:07:53OFTEN ALMOST COMPLETELY OPAQUE.
HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT ARE TWO
00:07:59ACTIVISTS FROM VERY DIFFERENT
POINTS ON THE POLITICAL
00:08:01SPECTRUM, BUT WHO SHARE A
CONCERN ABOUT THE PROCESS OF
00:08:06CRAFTING LEGISLATION AND KEEPING
IT TRANSPARENT, ACCESSIBLE AND
00:08:08ETHICAL.
CATHERINE TURCER IS WITH THE
00:08:10GOVERNMENT WATCHDOG GROUP COMMON
CAUSE.
00:08:13MAURICE THOMPSON IS WITH THE
1851 CENTER FOR CONSTITUTIONAL
00:08:15LAW.
>> I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME
00:08:21BILLS HERE.
THIS IS A BILL.
00:08:22THIS IS SENATE BILL 310, THE ONE
WE ARE CALLING THE ENERGY FREE
00:08:28STANDARDS BILL.
YOU CAN SEE THE SPONSOR'S NAME
00:08:32ON IT.
BUT THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP TO A
00:08:34BILL THAT SENATOR BILL SEITZ
SPONSORED LAST YEAR.
00:08:39A LOT OF QUESTIONS COME FROM
WHERE DID THE BILL ACTUALLY
00:08:45ORIGINATES?
THE ELECTRIC UTILITY WAS TIED TO
00:08:49THAT.
IN THIS BOOK THERE WAS NO
00:08:52FIRSTENERGY.
THE IDEA OF WHERE WERE -- OF
00:09:00WHERE LEGISLATION ORIGINATES.
IT IS MOST THE NAME OF THE
00:09:01SENATOR ON THE BILL.
>> THIS IS LIKE SCHOOLHOUSE
00:09:06ROCK.
YOU HAVE THE SENSE THAT PEOPLE
00:09:12SIT DOWN AND SAY, WE MADE -- WE
NEED WHATEVER.
00:09:18IT COMES FROM PROBLEMS THAT
PEOPLE HAVE.
00:09:20SOME OF THEM TO START THAT WAY
BUT SO MANY OF THEM START FROM
00:09:22INDUSTRY, FROM INTEREST GROUPS.
UNLESS A SPONSORS WILLING TO SAY
00:09:37THIS CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF THIS
SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL, WE ACTUALLY
00:09:43DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.
YOU CAN GO BACK AND YOU
00:09:54CONTRACT.
BECAUSE THERE WERE ENOUGH OF
00:09:55THOSE "DACHA -- THOSE "GOTCH
A'S", YOU HAVE A NAME ON THE
00:10:06BUILDER YOU DON'T NECESSARILY
KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM AND YOU
00:10:07CAN'T FOLLOW THE MONEY.
>> THIS IS A NONPARTISAN AGENCY
00:10:12IN THE STATE HOUSE THAT HELPS
KEEP TRACK OF LEGISLATION AND
00:10:14DOES PHYSICAL ANALYSIS OF
LEGISLATION.
00:10:16YOU HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN INVOLVED
IN CRAFTING LEGISLATION AND
00:10:21WRITING LEGISLATION.
IT IS NOT LIKE MAURICE
00:10:23THOMPSON'S NAME IS ON THAT.
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
00:10:27WITH THE EXPECT -- WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF THINGS I WORK ON,
00:10:34WE TEACH THE BAPTIST OR
BOOTLEGGER VERY OF LAWMAKING.
00:10:35THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS
OF WANTED PROHIBITION OF ALCOHOL
00:10:41, THE BAPTISTS WHO SINCERELY
BELIEVED IT AND THE BOOTLEGGERS
00:10:44WHO COULD MAKE MORE MONEY OFF OF
IT.
00:10:45THE BOOTLEGGERS WOULD FUND THE
BAPTISTS TO USE THEIR ARGUMENT.
00:10:49WE SEE THAT AROUND THE STATE
HOUSE ALL THE TIME.
00:10:54WHAT WE SEE IS A WELL-FUNDED
INTEREST ACTUALLY MAKING HUGE
00:10:58CONTRIBUTIONS TO DESTROY THEIR
MARKET COMPETITORS OR KRAFT SOME
00:11:03REVELATIONS THAT BENEFIT THEM.
AND THEN THE LAWMAKER WHO
00:11:06SPONSORS IT WOULD GO OUT AND SAY
, I AM PROTECTING THE PUBLIC
00:11:10FROM SOME PARTICULAR HARM.
WHENEVER YOU HEAR A LEGISLATOR
00:11:13CRAFT HIS BILL AND SUCH A WAY,
THIS IS GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC
00:11:18HEALTH AND WELFARE.
-- AND WELFARE, THERE IS AN
00:11:21INTEREST CROPPING IT UP --
INTEREST PROPPING IT UP.
00:11:27WHETHER IT IS CASINOS
THREATENING TO DESTROY INTERNET
00:11:39CAFÉS, ALL IN OVER WE SEE THIS
PLAY OUT.
00:11:41>> CATHERINE, YOU AND SOME OTHER
GROUPS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE
00:11:47INFLUENCE OF MAJOR INTEREST
GROUPS, THE LEGISLATIVE EXCHANGE
00:11:50COUNCIL.
WHEN YOU ASK LAWMAKERS AND TROY
00:11:55BALDERSON, WHO IS ON THE SHOW A
COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, HE SAID THE
00:12:01BILL CAME FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM
PEOPLE COMING TO HIM.
00:12:03THERE ARE THOSE THAT THINKS IT
CAME FROM ALEX.
00:12:06HOW DO YOU FIGURE OUT WHERE
THESE BILLS COME FROM ESPECIALLY
00:12:11WHEN THERE IS MODEL LEGISLATION
FROM A VARIETY GROUPS THAT FILL
00:12:14IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT STATES.
>> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
00:12:18CONNECTING THE DOTS.
YOU DO KNOW THAT IF YOU HAVE
00:12:25MODEL LEGISLATION THAT COMES OUT
OF THE AMERICAN LEGISLATIVE
00:12:27EXCHANGE COUNCIL, IF YOU HAVE
THAT MODEL LEGISLATION THAT
00:12:29SHOWS UP IN MULTIPLE STATES
AROUND THE SAME TIME, YOU CAN
00:12:33PRETTY WELL FIGURE OUT WHERE IT
LIKELY STARTED.
00:12:36>> WE DO HAVE LEGISLATORS
INVOLVED IN ALEC.
00:12:39VERY MUCH INVOLVED.
THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES.
00:12:47THERE ARE OTHER INTEREST GROUPS
IN OHIO WHO ARE WRITING ALSO TO
00:12:51LEGISLATION.
>> WE ARE MUCH MORE CONCERNED
00:12:54ABOUT OHIO GROUPS THAT HAVE THAT
VERY ACUTE FINANCIAL INTEREST.
00:12:59SOMETIMES THEY ARE USING
TAXPAYER FUNDS TO USE THEIR IT
00:13:03GENDER.
THEY'RE USING TAX FUNDS TO
00:13:07INCREASE TAXES.
THE OHIO SCHOOL PART ASSOCIATION
00:13:12-- SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION,
THESE ARE GROUPS THAT ARE
00:13:15LOBBYING ORGANIZATIONS.
THEY MAKE IT EASIER TO GET THE
00:13:19LANGUAGE THEY WANT TO INCREASE
TAXES.
00:13:20THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS FULL OF
ITS OWN LOBBYING GROUPS THAT,
00:13:27YES AS YOU INDICATED, OFTEN TIME
IS RIGHT IN THE BILL AND HANDED
00:13:30TO THE LEGISLATOR.
THE LEGISLATOR MAKE MATES -- MAY
00:13:34MAKE SOME CHANGES BUT WE ALL
NEED TO BE VERY ACUTE TO THE
00:13:36FACT THAT WHEN A BILL IS
INTRODUCED IT IS COMING FROM
00:13:38SOMEWHERE, FROM SOME PRIVATE
INTERESTS MORE OFTEN THAN NOT.
00:13:42>> THESE ARE THE FOUR PAGES OF
AMENDMENTS THAT WERE ADDED INTO
00:13:49THE BUDGET UPDATE, THE AND BR.
IT WAS SPLIT UP INTO SEVERAL
00:13:55DIFFERENT BILLS AND IT IS
INTERESTING YOU SEE A LOT OF
00:13:57CHANGES ON HERE.
I DON'T SEE ANYONE STEPPING
00:14:02FORWARD AND SAYING, I DON'T PUT
THIS IN THERE.
00:14:05WE ARE GOING TO GET TO NOVEMBER
AND PEOPLE WILL SAY VOTE FOR ME
00:14:10BASED ON MY RECORD.
THAT IS ALL WELL AND GOOD IF YOU
00:14:14CAN ACTUALLY TRACK WHAT YOUR
RECORD IS.
00:14:15IF ALL OF IT IS ON EVERYBODY,
THEN NOBODY IS RESPONSIBLE.
00:14:32IT IS LIKE THE DIFFUSION OF
RESPONSIBILITY WHERE HOW YOU
00:14:35HOLD THE ELECTED OFFICIALS
ACCOUNTABLE.
00:14:39IT SEEMS LIKE SUCH INSIDE
BASEBALL ANSWER YOU REALIZE IT
00:14:42IMPACTS EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN
THE STATE OF OHIO.
00:14:43>> THIS WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS ON
00:14:48HERE.
THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT
00:14:50THE BUDGET UPDATE AND THERE ARE
A LOT OF THINGS THAT DON'T HAVE
00:14:54TO UP YOUR TO DO WITH THE
BUDGET.
00:14:55THE IDEA OF ABORTION MEASURES
BEING PUT IN THE BUDGET, WHY
00:15:03DOES THIS HAPPEN?
>> IT HAPPENS BECAUSE THE OHIO
00:15:05SUPREME COURT AND SOME LOWER
COURTS DON'T ENFORCE THE OHIO
00:15:09CONSTITUTION.
THE OHIO CONSTITUTION AS A
00:15:14SINGLE SUBJECT RULE THAT SAYS A
BILL HAS TO BE ABOUT ONE SUBJECT
00:15:17AND NO OTHER SUBJECTS ARE
ALLOWED.
00:15:19AND THE UNIFORMITY CLAUSE
REQUIRES THAT ANY LEGISLATION
00:15:26THE UNIFORM IN ITS APPLICATION
ACROSS THE STATE.
00:15:27THESE TWO FEATURES HAVE NOT BEEN
ENFORCED BY THE COURTS.
00:15:30THE COURTS HAVE BEEN WILD THAT
HAVE BEEN GIVEN WHILE LENIENCY
00:15:36TO ESSENTIALLY DO WHATEVER THEY
WANT ON THE TOPIC.
00:15:37THEY HAVE ALSO SHREDDED THE
STANDING DOCTRINE, BASICALLY
00:15:42DISALLOWING OHIO'S -- OHIOANS
AND CITIZENS FROM GOING TO
00:15:47COURT.
THE IDEA THAT YOU WOULD ATTACH
00:15:55UNPOPULAR SINGLE RIDERS TO BILLS
THAT WOULD NOT PASS ON THEIR
00:16:00OWN.
YOU CAN TALK THEM INTO A POPULAR
00:16:03BILL AND GET THEM PASS.
THAT IS WHAT THE CONSTITUTION
00:16:06ACTUALLY PROHIBITS.
IT IS REALLY THE COURTS THAT ARE
00:16:11ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR
STOPPING IT.
00:16:12>> WHEN YOU WATCH THE HOUSE AND
SENATE DURING THE SESSION, YOU
00:16:16WILL SEE PEOPLE OFFER AMENDMENTS
TO BILLS.
00:16:19THESE AMENDMENTS ARE A LOT
DIFFERENT.
00:16:23THERE IS NO NAMES ON THEM.
>> ONE THING I ALWAYS THOUGHT
00:16:26WAS INTERESTING IS THE FOLKS
WROTE OUR OPEN MEETING IN
00:16:30LEGISLATION AND ARE IN FACT THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE LOYAL TO THE
00:16:32LEGISLATURE.
WHEN THEY CRAFT THE OPEN
00:16:34MEETINGS COMMODES IS TO
DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC.
00:16:38-- IN PUBLIC, REPUBLICANS HANG
OUT WITH REPUBLICANS AND
00:16:48DEMOCRATS HANG OUT DEMOCRATS AND
A CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
00:16:51THESE KINDS OF AMENDMENTS.
WE ARE NOT SEEING THAT THE
00:16:59LIBERATION SO WE ARE NOT
UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT IS
00:17:00ABOUT.
IT IS 2014 AND YOU THINK WE HAVE
00:17:05ALL OF THESE AMAZING TOOLS SO
THAT WE COULD HAVE BETTER
00:17:10UNDERSTOOD AND PARTICIPATE --
YOU COULD BE IN LUCAS COUNTY AND
00:17:19TRY TO BETTER UNDERSTAND IF THEY
HAVE THE DEBATE ACTUALLY PUBLIC.
00:17:23>> I THINK HE WOULD HAVE A MORE
INTERESTING EXCHANGE.
00:17:29IF YOU PUT THEM TOGETHER THEY
WOULD BE HAVING A CONVERSATION
00:17:31BETWEEN AND AMONG THEMSELVES.
IT WOULDN'T BE QUITE SO
00:17:35POLARIZED.
IF YOU SAY SOMETHING IN PUBLIC
00:17:44-- THERE IS A POINT WHERE YOU
SAY, I SHOULDN'T SAY THIS IN
00:17:47PUBLIC.
IF I THINK THIS I SHOULD HAVE A
00:17:50GOOD REASON FOR IT.
>> WHEN WE TRY TO HOLD THE
00:17:56SPOTLIGHT WE ASK LAWMAKERS WHEN
THEY COME OUT OF THE SESSIONS
00:18:00WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS
INDIVIDUAL THING THAT WAS THROWN
00:18:04IN THERE.
THAT CAME FROM A CAUCUS, THAT
00:18:09CAME FROM THESE VAGUE SOURCES.
WHAT IS INTERESTING NOW IS WE
00:18:13ARE STARTING TO SEE SOME
LAWMAKERS EVEN ADDRESS THIS.
00:18:15WE HEARD DEMOCRATS COMPLAIN
ABOUT HOW THEY FEEL LIKE THEY
00:18:18ARE NOT IN THE PROCESS.
EVEN DURING THE AND BR DEBATE, A
00:18:25REPUBLICAN FROM NORWALK STOOD UP
AND SAID HE FELT LIKE THE
00:18:29PROCESS WAS RUSHED AND CONFUSING
AND THE LAWMAKERS ON THE FINANCE
00:18:34COMMITTEE WERE NOT GET -- GET A
GOOD TAUGHT THEM -- GETTING THE
00:18:39TIME TO THAT THIS.
>> YOU HAVE RON SAYING HE
00:18:48DOESN'T KNOW WHERE THE AMENDMENT
CAME FROM.
00:18:49NOT ONLY DO I NOT KNOW WHERE IT
CAME FROM I REALLY DON'T KNOW A
00:18:53LOT ABOUT IT.
DID YOU READ IT AND WHOSE IS
00:19:01ITS?
THERE IS THAT POINT WE THINK
00:19:06THINGS HAVE TO GET DONE
LEGISLATIVELY.
00:19:07>> IT IS QUITE POSSIBLE BE A --
QUITE POSSIBLE THEY ARE ENTIRELY
00:19:17SINCERE.
THERE IS LEADERSHIP AND
00:19:23EMBARRASSED LEADERSHIP IN THE
TOP TWO OR THREE PEOPLE.
00:19:24THIS IS TRUE WHETHER WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT REPUBLICANS AND
00:19:27DEMOCRATS.
THE TOP TWO OR THREE PEOPLE ARE
00:19:31IN THE BILLS.
THEY ARE GOING TO CONFER WITH
00:19:37THE KEY LOBBYISTS, WHO
UNFORTUNATELY MAKE THE BIGGEST
00:19:42CONTRIBUTIONS TO SOMETHING LIKE
THE OHIO REPUBLICAN
00:19:43ORGANIZATIONAL COMMITTEE, WHICH
FUNDS ALL OF THE REPRESENTATIVE
00:19:47CAMPAIGNS.
THERE IS OFTEN SOME PUSHBACK AND
00:19:53OPEN DISCUSSION.
THE LEGISLATORS OFTEN NO THAT
00:19:59OFTEN DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
LEADERSHIP IS DOING.
00:20:01-- OFTEN DON'T KNOW IF THE
LEADERSHIP IS DOING.
00:20:08THEY MAY BE ON THE OUTSIDE
LOOKING IN.
00:20:09>> IT SHOULD BE SAID THAT I HAVE
TALKED TO DEMOCRATS AND
00:20:15REPUBLICANS WHO SAID THIS IS
GOING ON FOR QUITE A WHILE.
00:20:17MAURICE, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
SOMETHING YOU ARE INVOLVED IN,
00:20:26THE WHOLE MEDICAID EXPANSION
ISSUE.
00:20:28IT IS INTERESTING THAT THE NOT
GO TO THE LEGISLATURE, IT WENT
00:20:31TO THE CONTROLLING BOARD, WHICH
IS A GROUP OF SIX LAWMAKERS.
00:20:33AT SOME POINT THERE WAS THE
THOUGHT THAT LAWMAKERS SHOULD BE
00:20:45ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON THE
MEDICATION.
00:20:47>> THE OHIO CONSTITUTION SAYS
THAT LEGISLATORS ARE SUPPOSED TO
00:20:50MAKE MAJOR POLICY.
IT IS EASY BLACK LETTER LAW THAT
00:20:54WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND.
WE SAW WAS A CLINICAL THEATER --
00:21:09A POLITICAL THEATER WHERE THE
REPUBLICAN MEMBERSHIP WAS 20
00:21:12PROTECT THEIR MEMBERS FROM
HAVING TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE
00:21:13ISSUE BECAUSE IT MAY SUBJECT
THEM TO A CONTENTIOUS PRIMARY
00:21:16BACK IN THEIR DISTRICT.
IT COMPLETELY SHREDS POLITICAL
00:21:25ACCOUNTABILITY WHEN YOU PASS THE
BUCK TO A SIX PERSON BOARD DID
00:21:30YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE
LEGISLATURE'S ACTUAL POSITION
00:21:33WAS ON THE ISSUE.
YOU CAN GO HOME TO THE DISTRICT
00:21:35AND SAY, MY POSITION WAS ASK.
IN REALITY HE MAY HAVE VOTED WHY
00:21:39-- MY POSITION WAS X.
IN REALITY HE MAY HAVE VOTED Y.
00:21:45WE ARE SEEING THE LEGISLATOR
TRYING TO FARM IT OUT TO
00:21:50BUREAUCRACIES TO MAKE THESE
TOUGH DECISIONS AND ABSOLVE
00:21:56THEMSELVES FROM
RESPONSIBILITIES.
00:21:57>> I SHOULD MENTION THE OHIO
SUPREME COURT DID NOT SIDE WITH
00:22:03YOU IN THE MEDICAID EXPANSION
LAWSUIT CREATED -- LAWSUIT.
00:22:15WHAT CAN BE DONE YET THOUGH THE
USUAL ANSWERS ARE REDISTRICTING
00:22:21REFORM.
>> WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE BIG
00:22:28STRUCTURAL QUESTIONS.
SHOULD WE HAVE THESE CRAZY
00:22:32DISTRICT LINES THAT SET IT SO
YOU HAVE TO DO THE DISTRICT
00:22:35LINES AND POLITICAL INDEX AND
PRETTY MUCH THE GAME IS DONE
00:22:38BEFORE IT EVEN BEGAN.
THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE THE
00:22:47RULES CREATED A RIGGED GAME FOR
THEMSELVES.
00:22:49WHATEVER YOUR ISSUE IS, WE NEED
TO ASK VOTERS TO SAY, WE WANT A
00:22:59FAIR MORE TRANSPARENT SYSTEM.
IT'S NOT LIKE MAURICE AND I ARE
00:23:11HANGING OUT ALL THE TIME.
>> WE ALL DESERVE THAT.
00:23:22>> WHAT YOU THINK THE ANSWER
IS HERE?
00:23:28>> I THINK I AM BOOKED -- I AM
ON BOTH SIDES.
00:23:35IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONSTITUTION
AND WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS
00:23:36PERMITTING TO DO, YOU LOOK AT
ALL OF THE AREAS OF OUR LIFE
00:23:40THAT IT ACTUALLY IS IN.
A LOT OF TIMES THESE PROBLEMS OF
00:23:48ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY
TO MOW WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
00:23:52THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE IN AN AREA
OF OUR LIFE WHERE WE DON'T
00:23:54REALLY WANT THEM AND -- WE HAVE
LESS CONCERNS ABOUT
00:23:59ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY.
SECONDLY, IT REALLY IS ON THE
00:24:03COURT.
PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN ABOUT WHO
00:24:05THEIR JUDGES ARE AND THERE IS
THIS PHILOSOPHY OF DIFFERENCE TO
00:24:10THE LEGISLATURE.
THIS IS BASED ON THE PERCEPTION
00:24:12THAT THE LEGISLATURE WEIGHED THE
CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE LAW
00:24:15BEFORE PASSING IT, WHICH IS
OBVIOUSLY A HOAX THAT WE CAN ALL
00:24:19AGREE UPON AT THIS TABLE.
THE COURTS NEED TO DO IT JOB --
00:24:20AND TO -- NEED TO DO THE JOB OF
SCRUTINIZING THE LEGISLATION.
00:24:27WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO
CHANGE WITH THE LEGISLATURE
00:24:30DOES.
OF >> HAVE YOU AVOID THE LABEL
00:24:33OF ACTIVIST JUDGE?
>> THERE ARE ACTIVISTS WHO ARE
00:24:40BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO UPHOLD
UNCONSTITUTIONAL LEGISLATION.
00:24:41THEIR FORM OF RESTRAINT IS THE
ULTIMATE ACTIVISM BECAUSE
00:24:45THEY'RE ABDICATING FROM DOING
THEIR JOB.
00:24:49THEY WERE SWORN TO UPHOLD THE
CONSTITUTION.
00:24:50BY TAKING AN OATH TO NEVER
STRIKE DOWN LEGISLATION, THAT IS
00:24:58THE ULTIMATE FORM OF ACTIVISM.
I THINK OHIOANS ARE READY TO
00:25:02EMBRACE -- TO RUN A CHECK AND
BALANCE TO THE LEGISLATION >>
00:25:10THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
FOR MY COLLEAGUES AT OHIO PUBLIC
00:25:13RADIO AND TELEVISION, THANK YOU
FOR WATCHING.
00:25:15IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS,
MAKE COMMENTS, OR WATCH THIS
00:25:17WEEK'S SHOW OR EARLIER EPISODES,
PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE AT
00:25:20STATENEWS.ORG, OR WATCH ON THE
OHIO CHANNEL'S WEBSITE OR AT
00:25:21IDEASTREAM.ORG/OHIO.
AND YOU CAN FOLLOW JO INGLES,
00:25:25ANDY CHOW AND ME ON TWITTER.
AND PLEASE JOIN US AGAIN NEXT
00:25:27TIME FOR "THE STATE OF OHIO".
?
00:25:33>> ? I'M JUST A BILL
YES I'M ONLY A BILL
00:25:41AND I GOT AS FAR AS CAPITOL HILL
I WAIT WHILE A FEW KEY
00:25:50CONGRESSMEN DISCUSS AND DEBATE.
TODAY I AM STILL JUST A BILL.
00:26:01? ?
? I'M JUST A BILL, YES I'M ONLY
00:26:11A BILL ERIE IT IS -- ONLY A
BILL.
00:26:17>> SUPPORT FOR THE STATE OF OHIO
COMES FROM THE OFFICES OF
00:26:20PORTER, ARTHUR, RIGHT, AND
MORRIS LLP.
00:26:23ON THE WEB AT PORTERWRIT
GHT.COM.
00:26:29AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
ASSOCIATION, SUPPORTING
00:26:36TEACHERS, PROFESSIONALS, AND
HIGHER EDUCATION FACULTY
00:26:38COMMITTED TO THE SUCCESS OF
EVERY CHILD.
00:26:40CAPTIONED BY THE
NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE
00:26:41--WWW.NCICAP.ORG--
Note : Transcripts are compiled from uncorrected captions