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00:00:01>> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
BROADCAST OF "THE STATE OF OHIO"
00:00:02COMES FROM THE LAW OFFICES OF
PORTER, WRIGHT, MORRIS, AND
00:00:03ARTHUR LLP, HELPING BUSINESSES
AND INDIVIDUALS SOLVE COMPLEX
00:00:05PROBLEMS TO ROUTE OHIO, ACROSS
THE COUNTRY, AND AROUND THE
00:00:06WORLD.
ON THE WEB AT ORDER RIGHT.COM.
00:00:07AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
00:00:09100,000 TEACHERS, SUPPORT
PROFESSIONALS, AND HIGHER
00:00:11EDUCATION FACULTY, COMMITTED TO
THE SUCCESS OF EVERY CHILD.
00:00:12>> WITH A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED
DAYS TO GO, THE DEMOCRATIC
00:00:14CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR GETS ON
THE AIR WITH HIS FIRST TV AD.
00:00:17AND THE BUDGET UPDATE IS IN THE
BOOKS WITH SOME NEW TAX CUTS AND
00:00:20TAX BREAKS -- BUT DID LAWMAKERS
AND THE GOVERNOR MAKE THE RIGHT
00:00:24CHOICES WITH THOSE TAX CHANGES?
TWO EXPERTS WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS
00:00:27HAVE SOMEWHAT SURPRISING
OPINIONS ON WHAT'S GOOD AND BAD
00:00:30ABOUT THE MBR.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:00:33OHIO."
?
00:00:38?
DEMOCRATIC GUBERNATORIAL
00:00:46CANDIDATE ED FITZGERALD HAS
LAUNCHED HIS FIRST TV AD --
00:00:49THREE MONTHS AFTER HIS OPPONENT
HIT THE AIRWAVES.
00:00:52THE CUYAHOGA COUNTY EXECUTIVE
SPENT $250,000 TO PUT HIS
00:00:5530-SECOND SPOT TITLED "PROMISE"
ON BROADCAST STATIONS IN
00:00:59CLEVELAND AND COLUMBUS AND ON
CABLE STATEWIDE FOR A WEEK.
00:01:04>> WHO IS THE PROMISE OF OHIO
MEANT FOR?
00:01:09JUST THE WEALTHY AND
WELL-CONNECTED, OR THE AVERAGE
00:01:13OHIOANS WHO GET UP EARLY AND GET
IT DONE EVERY DAY?
00:01:17I THINK IT IS TIME OHIO STARTED
WORKING FOR WORKING PEOPLE.
00:01:22AS GOVERNOR, I WILL CREATE JOBS
BY HELPING SMALL BUSINESSES
00:01:25GROW, THE STORE CUTS TO
FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE, AND
00:01:29TEACHERS.
LET US START SUPPORTING THE
00:01:33MIDDLE CLASS, NOT JUST THE
WEALTHY FEW.
00:01:34OHIO WAS MEANT FOR ALL OF US.
>> THE CAMPAIGN ALSO PLANS TO
00:01:36ADD ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO AFTER
THIS FIRST BUY.
00:01:40THE AD FEATURES BLUE-COLLAR
WORKERS, FARMERS, FIREFIGHTERS,
00:01:41POLICE, AND TEACHERS -- VOTERS
FITZGERALD PLEDGES TO REACH WITH
00:01:43A MESSAGE OF GETTING OHIO
WORKING FOR WORKING PEOPLE.
00:01:49IN APRIL, THE FAR BETTER-FUNDED
KASICH CAMPAIGN, PUT OUT ITS AD.
00:01:57>> HE GREW UP IN A HARD-WORKING
STEEL TOWN ON THE OHIO RIVER.
00:01:59IT WAS HERE JOHN KASICH
FOSTERFATHER CARRIED THE MAIL ON
00:02:05HIS BACK, SIX DAYS A WEEK.
HIS GRANDFATHER WORKED IN THE
00:02:11COAL MINES.
HIS MOTHER WAS THE DAUGHTER OF
00:02:12IMMIGRANTS.
HERE, JOHN KASICH LEARNED THE
00:02:16VALUE OF A JOB, THE DIGNITY OF
WORK, AND A PASSION FOR HELPING
00:02:20OTHERS.
AND WHEN HE STEPPED OUT ON HIS
00:02:24OWN, THOSE VALUES WENT WITH HIM.
HERE, JOHN KASICH EARNED A
00:02:30DEGREE AND GRADUATED A PROUD
BUCKEYE.
00:02:31HERE, HE LED A TEAM THAT
BALANCED THE FEDERAL BUDGET AND
00:02:36IGNITED AN ERA OF JOB GROWTH.
AND HERE, HE MARRIED KAREN AND
00:02:42BECAME THE FATHER OF TWIN GIRLS.
TODAY, AS JOHN KASICH LEADS OHIO
00:02:46TO A NEW DAY OF JOB CREATION, IT
IS THE VALUES HE LEARNED HERE
00:02:51THAT GUIDE HIM.
GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH.
00:02:52>> KASICK'S AD WAS MORE
BIOGRAPHICAL IN NATURE BUT ALSO
00:02:56HIT AT JOHN KASICH'S BLUE COLLAR
ROOTS.
00:02:58ON THE SAME DAY, AND ALMOST
CERTAINLY NOT COINCIDENTALLY,
00:03:00THE OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY PUT UP
A WEBSITE FITZGERALDFOROHIO.COM
00:03:04-- VERY CLOSE TO FITZGERALD'S
ACTUAL WEBSITE
00:03:08EDFITZGERALDFOROHIO.COM.
THE ORP SAYS IT WILL POST
00:03:12NEGATIVE ADS AND EDITORIALS
ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE.
00:03:16WE'VE PASSED THE HALFWAY POINT
OF THE TWO-YEAR BUDGET CYCLE,
00:03:19AND THE BUDGET UPDATE CALLED THE
MID-BIENNIUM REVIEW OR MBR IS
00:03:22NOW LAW.
IT CREATED MORE THAN $400
00:03:25MILLION IN TAX CUTS, INCLUDING
AN ACCELERATION OF THE PERSONAL
00:03:29INCOME TAX CUT IN THE TWO-YEAR
BUDGET AND AN INCREASE IN THE
00:03:32TAX CUT FOR SMALL BUSINESSES.
IT ALSO DOUBLED THE EARNED
00:03:35INCOME TAX CREDIT FOR LOW-INCOME
TAXPAYERS, AND INCREASED THE
00:03:38PERSONAL DEDUCTION FOR PEOPLE
MAKING UNDER $80,000 A YEAR.
00:03:43AND IT TRANSFERRED UP TO $300
MILLION TO THE MEDICAID RESERVE
00:03:47FUND.
IT ALSO DOES A BUNCH OF OTHER
00:03:49THINGS:
IT CHANGES THE TEACHER
00:03:52EVALUATION REVIEW SYSTEM,
INCREASES THE SETBACK FOR WIND
00:03:56TURBINES, CLARIFIES THAT COLLEGE
ATHLETES ARE NOT EMPLOYEES AND
00:04:00CAN'T UNIONIZE, ALLOWS
CHIROPRACTORS TO CLEAR STUDENT
00:04:04ATHLETES WHO'VE HAD CONCUSSIONS
TO PLAY, SETS NEW CAGING
00:04:09REQUIREMENT FOR VENOMOUS SNAKES,
ALLOWS THE DRUG NALOXONE TO BE
00:04:13MADE AVAILABLE TO FIRST
RESPONDERS TO STOP OVERDOSE
00:04:17DEATHS, ALLOWS CRAFT BEER PUBS
THAT HAVE THEIR BREWERIES ON A
00:04:20SEPARATE SITE TO SELL GROWLERS,
PERMITS OPTOMETRISTS TO ISSUE
00:04:25HANDICAPPED PARKING CARDS, AND
MAKES TATTOO PARLOR OPERATORS,
00:04:29NOT ARTISTS, RESPONSIBLE FOR
STERILIZING EQUIPMENT.
00:04:33BUT THERE ARE STILL PARTS OF THE
MBR THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DEALT
00:04:37WITH, INCLUDING GOV. JOHN
KASICH'S PROPOSED INCREASE IN
00:04:39THE TAX ON CIGARETTES, HIS HIKE
IN THE SEVERANCE TAX ON OIL AND
00:04:47NATURAL GAS DRILLERS, AND HIS
INCREASE IN THE COMMERCIAL
00:04:49ACTIVITY TAX.
AND THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR
00:04:51BROUGHT GOOD FINANCIAL NEWS TO
THE STATE -- AN $800 MILLION
00:04:53SURPLUS.
WITH THE STATE'S RAINY DAY
00:04:55SAVINGS ACCOUNT FULLY FUNDED,
THERE ARE A LOT OF IDEAS ON
00:04:58WHERE THAT MONEY SHOULD GO.
TO TALK ABOUT THOSE IDEAS, THE
00:05:02BUDGET UPDATE AND MORE ARE TWO
LEARNED EXPERTS IN STATE POLICY
00:05:04ON A VARIETY OF ISSUES.
JOHN BEGALA IS A FORMER
00:05:08DEMOCRATIC STATE LAWMAKER AND IS
THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
00:05:11CENTER FOR COMMUNITY SOLUTIONS,
A SOCIAL SERVICES RESEARCH AND
00:05:14ADVOCACY GROUP BASED IN
CLEVELAND.
00:05:16MATT MAYER IS PRESIDENT OF
OPPORTUNITY OHIO, A CONSERVATIVE
00:05:19THINK TANK BASED IN DUBLIN NEAR
COLUMBUS.
00:05:27GLAD TO HAVE YOU BOTH BACK ON
THE SHOW.
00:05:28LET'S START WITH THE MBR.
IT DOES A LOT OF THINGS.
00:05:33IT DOES A LOT OF OTHER THINGS
THAT ARE COMPLETELY, FOR SOME
00:05:37PEOPLE, UNRELATED TO THE BUDGET.
WHAT BELONGS IN THE MBR AND WHAT
00:05:40DOES NOT?
>> I THINK THE MOST INTERESTING
00:05:44THING IS, THE MBR PROCESS
ITSELF.
00:05:47THIS IS A CASE ADMINISTRATION
INNOVATION.
00:05:50IN MANY WAYS, I THINK IT IS A
GOOD IDEA.
00:05:53IT KEEPS THAT SORT OF
MID-BIENNIUM CONVERSATION ON
00:06:02RUNNING THE AFFAIRS OF THE STATE
GOING, AND ALLOWS FOR
00:06:03ADJUSTMENTS.
AS OFTEN HAPPENS IN GOVERNMENT
00:06:08-- IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT IS
FEDERAL, STATE, OR LOCAL --
00:06:12THINGS LIKE THIS HAVE WAYS OF
BECOMING CHRISTMAS TREES.
00:06:14MAYBE THINGS ARE KIND OF PUSHING
THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT THEY
00:06:18OUGHT TO.
WHAT ON THE WHOLE I THINK IT IS
00:06:20A GOOD PROCESS.
NOT A TIME TO BE DOING MAJOR
00:06:25INITIATIVES, OR TO EXPECT MUCH
IN THE WAY OF MAJOR INITIATIVES
00:06:27TO BE ENACTED.
IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, THAT HAS
00:06:30BEEN THE CASE FOR DECADES.
THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CASE FOR
00:06:37A BUDGETS BILL OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT.
00:06:38WHAT I THINK IS DIFFERENT IS, IT
IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO FRAME THAT
00:06:44ADJUSTMENT PROCESS IN A SET OF
LARGER PRINCIPLES.
00:06:46I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION HAS
DONE AN EFFECTIVE JOB OF DOING
00:06:53THAT, AND IN A WAY KEEPING THE
MOMENTUM GOING ON THE LARGER
00:06:56AGENDA OVER THE ARC OF A COUPLE
OF TERMS.
00:07:01>> MAY I ASK YOU THE SAME
QUESTION?
00:07:02WHAT BELONGS IN THIS MBR, AND
WHAT DOESN'T?
00:07:04>> THE LITANY OF THINGS YOU READ
IS ACTUALLY FUNNY.
00:07:07WE HAVE A SINGLE SUBJECT RULE
THAT IS NO LONGER REALLY IN
00:07:12PRACTICE.
>> THE SUPREME COURT WILL TAKE
00:07:15UP ARGUMENTS.
>> BUT WE KNOW IT DOES NOT DO
00:07:18MUCH TO PUSH BACK ON ITS OWN
PEOPLE.
00:07:21I DO NOT EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN.
I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA FROM A
00:07:24PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT.
IT GIVES HER THE OPPORTUNITY TO
00:07:26NOT WAIT TWO YEARS AS FAX CHANGE
ON THE GROUND.
00:07:35I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF IT.
IT SEEMS IT IS REACHING CLOSER
00:07:36AND CLOSER INTO THE CHRISTMAS
TREE WORLD, WHERE WE THROW ALL
00:07:39THIS OTHER STUFF IN THERE.
WHAT IS MOST INTERESTING IS THE
00:07:43THINGS HE SAID AT THE VERY END,
THE TAX HIKES THE GOVERNOR WANTS
00:07:48TO PUT IN PLACE TO BALANCE OUT
THE TAX CUTS.
00:07:51IT IS ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL.
IT IS NEVER A TRUE TAX CUT.
00:07:56THERE'S ALWAYS TAXING SOMEWHERE
ELSE TO PAY FOR IT.
00:07:59>> JOHN, YOUR ORGANIZATION HAS
TALKED ABOUT CLOSING LOOPHOLES
00:08:04AND AN OVERALL BALANCED
APPROACH.
00:08:05THOSE THREE THINGS -- TAXES ON
CIGARETTES, THE INCREASED TAX ON
00:08:10OIL AND NATURAL GAS DRILLERS --
YOU WANT TO SEE THOSE GO
00:08:14FORWARD, OR ARE YOU CONCERNED?
>> TO THE LARGER QUESTION, TAX
00:08:21EXPENDITURES IN OHIO REMAIN A
PROBLEM.
00:08:22IN THE STATE GOVERNMENT.
TAXES AT THE STATE LEVEL, JUST
00:08:31LIKE AT THIS FEDERAL LEVEL,
WOULD BE A GOOD THING.
00:08:32THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE IS A
CONSTITUENCY FOR EVERY ONE OF
00:08:35THOSE LOOPHOLES.
THEY FIGHT JUST AS HARD TO KEEP
00:08:38THEM AS THEY DO TO GET RID OF
THEM.
00:08:41DOING IT PIECEMEAL IS AWFULLY
DIFFICULT.
00:08:46>> TAX POLICY AND TAX LOOPHOLES
-- I DO NOT THINK IT IS
00:08:57REASONABLE THAT MUCH IS GOING TO
COME OUT OF THIS YEAR.
00:08:58THIS COULD BE THE APPROACH AGAIN
NEXT YEAR.
00:09:01THE PROBLEM IS TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT DIRECTION THIS IS
00:09:06GOING.
THE OPPORTUNITY OF THE LAST
00:09:08FISCAL CRISIS HAS PASSED.
WE HAVE COME OUT OF THE BOTTOM
00:09:11OF THE TROUGH NOW.
WE ARE STABILIZED.
00:09:14IN THE ABSENCE OF A CRISIS, IT
IS HARD TO SEE HOW MAJOR TAX
00:09:23REFORM CAN TAKE PLACE.
WITH THE ADMINISTRATION
00:09:27PROPOSING A REDUCTION OF THE
SALES TAX DURING THE LAST
00:09:28BUDGET, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY
ENDED UP INCREASING IT, IN ORDER
00:09:32TO FUND SOME CUTS, IN EFFECT, IN
THE INCOME TAX.
00:09:37THAT IS NOT THE DIRECTION WE
WANT TO SEE THINGS GO AS AN
00:09:43ORGANIZATION.
ON THE TAX EXPENDITURE SIDE,
00:09:47THOSE THINGS CONTINUE TO EXPAND.
I THINK WE WOULD ALL BENEFIT
00:09:52FROM A FAIR TAX CODE AND SAY, IF
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SALES
00:09:57TAX, LET'S APPLY IT BROADLY AND
REDUCE A RATE TO THE EXTENT THAT
00:10:02IS POSSIBLE, ALLOWING FOR
OBVIOUS EXCEPTIONS LIKE FOOD AND
00:10:05BASIC NECESSITIES.
>> IT WAS THREE YEARS AGO ABOUT
00:10:08THIS MONTH THAT JOHN AND I
PARTNERED FOR THIS "ACROSS THE
00:10:10SPECTRUM" CONCEPT, WHERE WE
TRIED TO TACKLE THE IDEA OF TAX
00:10:16EXPENDITURES.
HE BOTH AGREED WHICH WE COULD
00:10:18AGREE TO GET RID OF.
WE DISAGREED ON WHAT TO DO WITH
00:10:21THE FUNDS.
BUT TWO GROUPS ON THE LEFT AND
00:10:24RIGHT COULD COME TOGETHER AND
SAY, THESE TAX EXPENDITURES SEEM
00:10:26A BIT OUTDATED.
WE DO NOT NEED THEM.
00:10:30AND YET WE HAVE MADE NO PROGRESS
IN THE SENATE BECAUSE OF ALL THE
00:10:34CONSTITUENCIES THEY GUILT --
THAT GET BUILT UP THAT ONLY MAKE
00:10:37IT MORE COMPLICATED.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT DOES
00:10:41NOT HELP THE STATE ECONOMY TO
HAVE ALL THIS MONEY GOING INTO
00:10:43WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER TO BE
PRETTY SILLY USES OF OUR FUNDS.
00:10:46>> THERE IS AN $800 MILLION
SURPLUS.
00:10:48THERE IS TALK ABOUT IT GOING TO
MORE TAX CUTS, SOME OTHER AREAS.
00:10:55WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IT
GO?
00:10:55>> IT IS A SURPLUS, RIGHT, BUT
LET US UNPACK THAT.
00:10:59IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET REPORT
THAT CANTEEN -- KEN KEANE JUST
00:11:11PUT OUT, UNDERSTAND THEY ARE NOT
CUTTING SPENDING.
00:11:13HIS IS NOT A FISCALLY
RESPONSIBLE ADMINISTRATION.
00:11:16SPENDING HAS REACHED OVER $30.5
BILLION AT THE END OF LAST YEAR.
00:11:20THE REASON WE HAVE $800 MILLION
IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOW
00:11:27SURPASSED THE HIGH NUMBER IN THE
STRICKLAND ADMINISTRATION OF
00:11:30$8.5 BILLION -- IN FEDERAL
MONEY.
00:11:36WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION THAT
HIT THE STRICT ADMINISTRATION
00:11:41FOR THE USE OF ONE-TIME MONEY,
BUT NOW HAS GONE FURTHER TIED TO
00:11:45FEDERAL FUNDS.
THAT WILL GO INTO THE FUTURE,
00:11:52AND THE STATE NUMBER IS GOING TO
HAVE TO GO HIGHER TO HIT THAT
00:11:56MATCH.
WE ARE ONLY TEMPORARILY IN A
00:11:59SURPLUS MARKET.
FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, IT
00:12:07IS OVER A BILLION DOLLARS MORE
CAME INTO THE FEDERAL -- FROM
00:12:10THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAN THE
YEAR BEFORE.
00:12:11>> JOHN, YOU SUPPORT MEDICAID
EXPANSION.
00:12:13IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING TRUE AND
A PROBLEM?
00:12:16>> IT IS TRUE, BUT I DO NOT
THINK IT IS A PROBLEM, AT LEAST
00:12:21NOT IN THE WAY THAT MATT WOULD
SEE THE WORLD.
00:12:24OVERALL, FEDERAL-STATE
RELATIONSHIPS ARE DONE WITH THE
00:12:28LATEST SHAKEOUT.
IT IS NOT A PRETTY PICTURE.
00:12:33WE CONTINUE TO HAVE ENORMOUS
NATIONAL DEFICITS AND DEBT.
00:12:39AND WE HAVE GOT ABSOLUTE
GRIDLOCK DOWN IN D.C.
00:12:44BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAN
AND OUGHT TO HAPPEN IS, I THINK
00:12:50MEDICAID EXPANSION IS A GOOD
EXAMPLE.
00:12:53SORT OF SETTLE OUT THE MAJOR
SAFETY NET PROGRAMS WE HAVE IN
00:12:56THE COUNTRY, AND SORT THOSE OUT
FROM THE LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF
00:13:02SMALLER PROGRAMS AND DOMESTIC
POLICY THAT COME OUT OF
00:13:04WASHINGTON.
SAY WHAT IS BASIC AND WHAT IS
00:13:10ESSENTIAL.
THIS IS AN AREA I THINK IS GOING
00:13:11TO COME UP IN THE FUTURE, ECHOES
WELFARE REFORM IS GOOD TO GET
00:13:15BACK ON THE AGENDA IN OHIO.
I CANNOT HELP BUT WONDER WHAT IN
00:13:19THE WORLD THAT MEANS.
BASICALLY, THERE ARE A
00:13:23HALF-DOZEN MAJOR FEDERAL
PROGRAMS THAT EITHER DIRECTLY OR
00:13:27THROUGH THE STATES ASSIST LOWER
INCOME PEOPLE AND PEOPLE THAT
00:13:31LIVE ON THE MARGINS OF LOW
INCOME, WORKING POOR AND SO
00:13:33FORTH.
THEY ARE VIRTUALLY ALL IN THE
00:13:39SOCIAL SECURITY END, WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF THE G.I. BILL, FOOD
00:13:41STAMPS, AND PUBLIC HOUSING.
YOU PUT THOSE THINGS TOGETHER
00:13:46AND YOU HAVE GOT THE CORE OF
WHAT WE KIND OF NEED TO KEEP, IF
00:13:48POSSIBLE, FOR MOST PEOPLE TO
STAY IN OR GET INTO THE MIDDLE
00:13:52CLASS.
THERE IS A HECK OF A LOT MORE
00:13:55THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES
OUTSIDE OF THAT.
00:13:56THAT IS WHERE I THINK WE OUGHT
TO BE PAYING ATTENTION.
00:13:59THERE ARE GROUPS THAT EXIST
AROUND THE FRINGES.
00:14:07PROTECT THE CORE.
MEDICAID IS PART OF THAT CORE.
00:14:09THERE ARE THINGS ABOUT THE
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT THAT I DO
00:14:11NOT LIKE.
I AM NOT EXPRESSING THE POSITION
00:14:15OF MY ORGANIZATION, BY THE WAY.
I THINK THE SUPREME COURT AND
00:14:19MYSELF GOT IT ABSOLUTELY
BACKWARD.
00:14:20THE MEDICAID EXPANSION, WE
SHOULD'VE GONE AHEAD WITH, AND
00:14:23THE MANDATE SHOULD HAVE BEEN
THROWN OUT.
00:14:27THE SUPREME COURT DID THE
OPPOSITE AND HAS CREATED
00:14:29ABSOLUTE CHAOS IN WHAT WAS
ALREADY A PIECE OF LEGISLATION
00:14:32THAT HAD SOME FLAWS.
ANYWAY, THE MEDICAID EXPANSION,
00:14:37I THINK, ON THE WHOLE IS GOING
TO BE GOOD FOR OHIO.
00:14:41THE LARGER PART OF HEALTH CARE
REFORM IS GOING TO PLAY OUT THE
00:14:47NEXT FEW YEARS.
IT IS SOMETHING TO KEEP AN I ON,
00:14:51FOR SURE.
>> LAST WEEK, SHERROD BROWN GOT
00:14:53UP AND SAID WE NOT ONLY SHOULD
NOT HAVE ANY REFORM TO SOCIAL
00:14:57SECURITY, OR SHOULD INCREASE
SPENDING BY ADDING MORE
00:15:01ENTITLEMENTS.
UNLUCKY FOR SENATOR BROWN, THE
00:15:05CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE CAME
OUT WITH A REPORT IN THE LAST
00:15:06COUPLE OF DAYS THAT SAID, ALL
THOSE OTHER PROGRAMS JOHN
00:15:12MENTIONED ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.
OUR PROBLEM AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL
00:15:13IS THE SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICAID
/MEDICARE, AND HEALTH CARE
00:15:17SPENDING IS GOING TO EXPLODE
FEDERAL SPENDING AND DRIVE HUGE
00:15:22NUMBERS OF TAX HIKES IF WE DO
NOT DO REFORMS OF THOSE
00:15:29PROGRAMS.
YOU CAN CUT ALL THE OTHER
00:15:30DISCRETIONARY SPENDING, BUT
STILL CANNOT SOLVE THAT
00:15:33REQUIRED, AND ADVOCATED SPENDING
TO ALL THE SAFETY NET PROGRAMS.
00:15:36WE WOULD AGREE YOU NEED TO HAVE
A SAFETY NET.
00:15:39IF WE DO NOT REFORM THE
PROGRAMS, WE ARE GOING TO END UP
00:15:44HAVING NO SAFETY NET AT ALL.
WE WILL HAVE A CRASH, AS YOU ARE
00:15:48STARTING TO SEE IN SOME EUROPEAN
COUNTRIES.
00:15:49WHAT WE HAVE GOT TO DO IS MAKE
SURE WE ARE SMART ABOUT THIS.
00:15:52WITH MEDICAID EXPANSION ISSUES,
WE HAVE ALREADY SURPASSED THE
00:15:57$275,000 NUMBER CASE
ADMINISTRATION PUT OUT.
00:16:00>> 275,000 NEW RECIPIENTS, YOU
MEAN.
00:16:06>> YES.
IT IS ONLY IN THE FIRST EIGHT
00:16:10MONTHS THE EXPANSION HAPPENED.
I DO NOT KNOW THE AVERAGE COST
00:16:13OF A MEDICAID PATIENT.
BUT LET US SAY IT IS $10,000.
00:16:16IF OUR 10% IN A COUPLE OF YEARS
IS A THOUSAND DOLLARS, ADD THOSE
00:16:21EUROS ON --
>> A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF OF
00:16:25THAT FOR THE MOMS AND KIDS OF
ADULTS IN THE PROGRAM.
00:16:28BOOKS AREN'T YOU ASSUMING THAT
MORE PEOPLE -- COULDN'T WE HAVE
00:16:33HIT MAXIMUM ENROLLING?
>> GOSH, NO.
00:16:35I WOULD GUESS WE WILL HIT THE
$400,000 NUMBER, NEWLY ELIGIBLE
00:16:43BECAUSE OF THE EXPANSION.
THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO DRIVE
00:16:46THE STATE BUDGET NUMBER UP.
OR IT IS GOING TO REPLACE OTHER
00:16:51DOMESTIC SPENDING IN THE STATE
BUDGET, OR YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE
00:16:54TAX HIKES.
IF WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF RECESSION
00:16:56-- WE ARE NOW IN THE FOURTH
LONGEST RECOVERY SINCE 1929.
00:17:03IT DOES NOT FEEL THAT WAY, BUT
WE ARE.
00:17:04EACH MONTH THAT GOES BY
INCREASES THE ODDS WE ARE GOING
00:17:09TO HAVE ANOTHER DOWNTURN.
WE HAVE NOT HAD THE STRONGEST
00:17:11RECOVERY IN OHIO.
THE MAY JOBS STANDPOINT, EVEN
00:17:14FROM A REVENUE STANDPOINT.
WHEN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT
00:17:17HOW WE CUT THE BUDGET, AS
REVENUES HAVE PLUMMETED, THE
00:17:23FOUR-YEAR CASE THAT BUDGETS ARE
ALL REVENUE DRIVEN.
00:17:26IT IS ALL ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY
COMES IN TO PAY FOR INCREASED
00:17:29SPENDING.
HIKES YOU MENTIONED THE ECONOMY
00:17:32AND JOB GROWTH.
YOU CITED A STUDY SHOWING THE
00:17:35ECONOMIC RECOVERY HAS BEEN
AVERAGE COMPARED TO OTHER
00:17:37STATES.
THAT HAS BEEN SHOWN.
00:17:39IN FACT, SOME REPORTS OF SHOWN
IT IS EVEN WORSE THAN THAT, THAT
00:17:43IT HAS BEEN IN THE 40'S AMONG
THE 50 STATES.
00:17:46LIKE IT IS 26TH AT BEST IN THE
COUNTRY SINCE I'M CASEY BECAME
00:17:50GOVERNOR.
IT IS MIDDLING.
00:17:52-- SANS JOHN KASICH BECAME
GOVERNOR.
00:17:58>> NOT WHERE WE WANTED TO BE IN
JOB GROWTH AFTER THE RECESSION,
00:18:02RIGHT, JOHN?
>> WE HAVE DONE PRETTY WELL, I
00:18:05THINK, ON THE WHOLE.
INSERT HEADING IN THE RIGHT
00:18:09DIRECTION AND THEY HAVE
IMPROVED.
00:18:10WE HAVE SHORT MEMORIES OF HER
THINGS WERE FIVE YEARS AGO.
00:18:14HIKES THAT PUTS YOU ON THE SAME
PAGE AS GOVERNOR KASICH, WHO HAS
00:18:19SAID THE ECONOMY HAS IMPROVED.
>> I THINK IT HAS, ESPECIALLY IN
00:18:24THE CITIES.
IT IS SPOTTY.
00:18:26YOU CANNOT GENERALIZE ABOUT
OHIO.
00:18:27APPALACHIAN OHIO, FOLLOWING THE
RIVER FROM EAST OF CINCINNATI UP
00:18:33TO PITTSBURGH AREA, AND NORTH,
IS STRUGGLING.
00:18:39IT IS STRUGGLING BIG TIME.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS
00:18:43INTERESTING NEWS, AND THIS IS
THE STRENGTH OF THESE BASIC
00:18:46PROGRAMS, BACK IN 2009, WHAT
HURTS OF OHIO RELIED TO THE
00:18:52GREATEST EXTENT ON THE EXTENDED
UNEMPLOYMENT?
00:18:57THEY WERE FARM OHIO, SMALL-TOWN
OHIO, AND CENTRAL.
00:19:00BUT URBAN CENTERS IN OHIO, THE
INNER CENTERS, AND APPALACHIAN
00:19:14OHIO HAVE BEEN IN TROUBLE
ECONOMICALLY.
00:19:15HE HAD NOT COME OUT OF IT.
THE HOUSING CRISIS, THE IMPACT
00:19:19OF THE HOUSING BUBBLE ON
CLEVELAND IS DEVASTATING.
00:19:21THERE ARE LITERALLY TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF ABANDONED HOUSES
00:19:27THAT ARE COMING DOWN.
THAT IS YET TO BE DONE.
00:19:29>> YOU ALSO -- YOUR GROUP PUT
TOGETHER A CHART THAT SHOWS
00:19:36STATE AND FEDERAL SPENDING
THROUGH SOME OF ALL OF THIS
00:19:39TOTALING $4.7 BILLION FOR THE
YEAR.
00:19:40COUNTY LEVIES ADDING $698
MILLION.
00:19:45YOU WERE SAYING THAT SHOWS THE
IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC MONEY, AND
00:19:52PRIVATE GROUPS CANNOT HELP AND
DO IT ALL IN THE RECOVERY, AND
00:19:57HELP ALL THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO
BE HELPED.
00:19:58>> CANNOT EVEN BEGIN TO.
NEVERTHELESS, AND CHARITY AND
00:20:02PHILANTHROPY IS AN EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT PART OF THE OVERALL
00:20:05MIX.
HE HAVE A MIXED MARKET ECONOMY.
00:20:10WE HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC
INVESTMENT THAT GOES TO PEOPLE
00:20:12AND DO BUSINESS IN THE FORM OF
CASH ASSISTANCE OR TAX
00:20:15EXPENDITURES BOTH.
AND WE RELY UPON A VIBRANT
00:20:22PRIVATE ECONOMY AS WELL.
IT IS MANAGING THAT MAKES
00:20:25WITHOUT FALLING PREY TO
CORRUPTION, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY
00:20:30DOES HAPPEN.
THAT IS THE ART OF GOVERNMENT.
00:20:35I GIVE THE BASIC GOVERNMENT HIGH
MARKS.
00:20:41IT IS NOT PERFECT.
WE DO NOT LIVE IN AN -- IN A
00:20:43PERFECT WORLD.
>> THE CITY OF HOUSTON, JUST THE
00:20:50CITY OF HOUSTON, HAS ADDED MORE
JOBS SINCE 2000 AND SINCE 2009
00:20:56THEN THE ENTIRE STATE OF OHIO,
JUST THE CITY OF HOUSTON.
00:20:59WE HAVE ADDED JOBS.
THAT IS A GOOD THING.
00:21:01WE ARE STILL WAY IN THE HOLE
FROM THE MARCH 2000 PRIVATE
00:21:06SECTOR JOB.
WE HIT AT 4.8 MILLION.
00:21:08WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO.
THE QUESTION BECOMES, WHAT ARE
00:21:13THE POLICIES THAT MOMENT -- THAT
WILL LET US ACCELERATE THE
00:21:18RECOVERY?
I HAVE NOT SEEN WHAT I THINK ARE
00:21:20THE RIGHT POLICIES THAT WILL
MAKE US TRULY COMPETITIVE WITH
00:21:23THE SOUTHERN STATES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO, THE
00:21:37LABOR UNION ISSUE.
NOT THE GOVERNMENT ONE, BUT THE
00:21:40PRIVATE SECTOR ONE.
I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE TRUE
00:21:42GOVERNMENT SPENDING REFORM.
LOOK AT EVERY DEPARTMENT AGENCY,
00:21:46OFFICE AND STATE GOVERNMENT, AND
FIND EFFICIENCIES AND SAVINGS.
00:21:53HOW DO WE TACKLE THE LOCAL-STATE
TAX BURDEN?
00:21:56WE SEE STATE TAXES COMING DOWN
BUT LOCAL PROPERTY TAXES GOING
00:22:01UP.
LET US HAVE THE DISCUSSION OF
00:22:05HOW WE LOWER OUR OVERALL TAX
BURDEN IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE WE
00:22:08ARE A COMPETITIVE ECONOMY THAT
GROWS, NOT STAGNATES OR LIMBS
00:22:13WHILE OTHER STATES SURPASS US
EVEN MORE.
00:22:14>> I AGREE ON THE STATE-LOCAL
COMBINATION.
00:22:17MAYBE THE CONSTITUTIONAL
MODERNIZATION COMMISSION OFFERS
00:22:22LITTLE WAY INTO THAT.
WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE.
00:22:23I THINK JOB CREATION IS THE
NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR THE
00:22:28STATE OF OHIO.
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT WELFARE
00:22:33REFORM TWO POINT ZERO, WHATEVER
THAT MEANS.
00:22:36WELFARE AT THIS STAGE MEANS JOB
CREATION.
00:22:37WE CAN DO ALL OF THE TRAINING
PROGRAMS IN THE WORLD, BUT IF
00:22:42THERE ARE NO JOBS FOR PEOPLE AT
THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT DO WE
00:22:44HAVE?
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TURNING
00:22:48THAT LONG OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AT THE TOP
00:22:55OF THE LIST.
THAT IS WHERE OUR PRIORITIES
00:23:03NEED TO BE.
>> I COULD TALK TO YOU FOREVER.
00:23:05THANK YOU BOTH.
I APPRECIATE IT.
00:23:06>> WE ARE JUST GETTING WARMED
UP.
00:23:09>> UNFORTUNATELY, SHOW IS OVER.
AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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