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>> PARTISANS ON BOTH SIDES
00:00:32REMEMBER A MAN BEING CALLED A
GIANT OF OHIO POLITICS.
00:00:35LAST MINUTE LEGISLATION KEEPS
RUSHING ALONG, AS LAWMAKERS MAKE
00:00:37A MAD DASH TO GO HOME FOR THE
HOLIDAYS.
00:00:42AND THE SOMEWHAT UNEXPECTED STAR
ISSUE IN THIS LAME DUCK SESSION
00:00:44IS ONE THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR
MORE THAN A DECADE --
00:00:47REDISTRICTING REFORM.
COMING UP, THOUGHTS FROM A MAN
00:00:50WHO'S BEEN HEAVILY INVOLVED IN
THE ISSUE FOR YEARS, AS A
00:00:52LAWMAKER AND NOW AS THE STATE'S
ELECTIONS CHIEF.
00:00:55ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO".
00:01:04THE BUSY WEEK BEGAN AND ENDED
WITH MEMORIES OF AN ICONIC
00:01:11FIGURE IN OHIO POLITICS --
LONGTIME OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY
00:01:13CHAIR BOB BENNETT.
BENNETT HEADED THE OHIO GOP
00:01:16TWICE.
THE FIRST TIME WAS A 20 YEAR
00:01:19TERM STARTING IN 1988, IN WHICH
HE LOGGED MORE WINS THAN ANY
00:01:23POLITICAL PARTY CHAIRMAN IN OHIO
HISTORY.
00:01:26HE TOOK OVER THE PARTY AGAIN
BRIEFLY STARTING IN 2012 AFTER
00:01:29THE OUSTER OF KEVIN DEWINE BY
SUPPORTERS OF GOVERNOR JOHN
00:01:31KASICH.
BUT BENNETT SUFFERED WITH
00:01:34RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS, AND LEFT
THE GOP CHAIRMANSHIP LAST YEAR.
00:01:39BENNETT'S REPLACEMENT MATT
BORGES DESCRIBED HIM AS A
00:01:41LEGEND, AND KASICH CALLED HIM "A
GIANT OF OHIO AND NATIONAL
00:01:44POLITICS."
>> EVEN OHIO DEMOCRATIC PARTY
00:01:48CHAIRMAN CHRIS REDFERN LAUDED
BENNETT FOR BUILDING WHAT HE
00:01:51CALLED "AN IMPRESSIVE AND
COMPETITIVE PARTY STRUCTURE."
00:01:54BENNETT, WHO WAS BORN IN
COLUMBUS, GRADUATED FROM OHIO
00:01:56STATE AND THE CLEVELAND MARSHALL
COLLEGE OF LAW, WAS 75 YEARS
00:01:59OLD.
HIS FUNERAL WAS FRIDAY IN
00:02:03COLUMBUS.
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE,
00:02:05THE RACE FOR DEMOCRATIC PARTY
CHAIRMAN IS NARROWING.
00:02:08TERM-LIMITED STATE
REPRESENTATIVE BOB HAGAN OF
00:02:10YOUNGSTOWN, WHO TALKED ABOUT HIS
CANDIDACY FOR THE CHAIRMANSHIP
00:02:14ON THIS SHOW LAST WEEK, HAS
WITHDRAWN AND THROWN HIS SUPPORT
00:02:16BEHIND FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL
CANDIDATE DAVID PEPPER.
00:02:20PEPPER HAS POSITIONED HIMSELF AS
A CANDIDATE ALONG WITH LAST
00:02:22MONTH'S DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR
SECRETARY OF STATE, NINA TURNER,
00:02:25AND BY MANY GUESSES HAS THE
VOTES TO WIN.
00:02:29BUT SHAREN NEUHARDT, WHO RAN
ALONGSIDE ED FITZGERALD AS THE
00:02:33DEMOCRATS' CHOICE FOR LT.
GOVERNOR, IS STILL IN THE RACE.
00:02:36PEPPER HAS THE BACKING OF THE
MAYORS OF CINCINNATI, CLEVELAND
00:02:38AND CANTON, AND NOW THREE OF
OHIO'S FOUR DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS
00:02:42OF CONGRESS.
NEUHARDT HAS THE SUPPORT OF US
00:02:44SENATOR SHERROD BROWN AND THE
MAYOR OF COLUMBUS.
00:02:47SHE'S NOT THE ONLY WOMAN IN THE
RACE.
00:02:49COLUMBUS POLITICAL CONSULTANT
ANTOINETTE WILSON SAYS SHE'S
00:02:51ALSO A CANDIDATE FOR CHAIR.
DEMOCRATS ARE EXPECTED TO PICK A
00:02:55CHAIR AT A MEETING ON TUESDAY.
AND THE NEWLY RE-ELECTED
00:02:59GOVERNOR AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR
HAVE ANNOUNCED THEIR PLANS FOR
00:03:02NEXT MONTH'S INAUGURATION.
THE MAIN EVENT IS AT 11:30AM ON
00:03:05MONDAY, JANUARY 12 AT THE
SOUTHERN THEATRE IN DOWNTOWN
00:03:09COLUMBUS, THOUGH JOHN KASICH,
MARY TAYLOR AND THE CABINET WILL
00:03:13HAVE BEEN OFFICIALLY SWORN IN 11
.5 HOURS EARLIER.
00:03:21THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED BY AN
INAUGURAL GALA AT THE HILTON IN
00:03:23DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS THAT EVENING,
AND IF OHIO STATE IS PLAYING IN
00:03:25THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP THAT
NIGHT, IT'S EXPECTED THE EVENT
00:03:27WILL BE DOMINATED BY THAT GAME
ON BIG-SCREEN TVS.
00:03:31BUT THERE IS A "FAMILY DAY"
PLANNED AT THE STATEHOUSE ON
00:03:33SATURDAY, JANUARY 10, AND THE
KASICH ADMINISTRATION IS GIVING
00:03:37AWAY TICKETS TO THE CEREMONY AT
THE SOUTHERN THEATRE.
00:03:41THOSE WHO WANT TO WIN THEM CAN
APPLY AT NEWDAYOHIO.COM BY
00:03:43DECEMBER 31.
THIS WEEK'S LAME DUCK ACTION GOT
00:03:48A LITTLE UNPREDICTABLE THIS
WEEK, WITH MOVEMENT ON A BILL
00:03:50THAT MANY PEOPLE HAD PRESUMED
WAS DEAD.
00:03:53THE CONTROVERSIAL HEARTBEAT
BILL, WHICH WOULD BAN ABORTION
00:03:56AFTER THE FIRST DETECTABLE FETAL
HEARTBEAT, AS EARLY AS SIX WEEKS
00:03:59INTO A PREGNANCY, CAME TO LIFE
BRIEFLY.
00:04:02FIRST ON TUESDAY, AS AN
AMENDMENT TO A WIDELY SUPPORTED
00:04:05BIPARTISAN BILL FROM THE SENATE
ON INFANT MORTALITY.
00:04:08REPRESENTATIVE MATT LYNCH OF
GEAUGA COUNTY, WHO LOST A
00:04:11REPUBLICAN PRIMARY FOR CONGRESS
IN MAY AND WON'T BE RETURNING TO
00:04:15THE STATEHOUSE, MADE THAT MOVE,
AND THEN WAS SEEN ON THE HOUSE
00:04:17FLOOR WEARING EARMUFFS.
HE SAID IT WAS BECAUSE HE'S
00:04:20PRONE TO EAR INFECTIONS, BUT
OBSERVERS WONDERED HOW MUCH HE
00:04:23COULD HEAR WITH THEM COVERING
HIS EARS.
00:04:28THE INFANT MORTALITY BILL WAS
PULLED FROM THE FLOOR TUESDAY,
00:04:29AND THAT NIGHT AFTER SENATE
SESSION, PRESIDENT KEITH FABER
00:04:33MADE IT CLEAR HOW HE FELT ABOUT
THE MOVE.
00:04:36>> I WOULD PREFER THAT DIDN'T
HAPPEN.
00:04:40I DON'T KNOW WHY REPRESENTATIVE
LYNCH WOULD WANT TO KILL BABIES.
00:04:44WE BELIEVE THAT THE HEARTBEAT
BILL WILL STRIKE DOWN, OR COULD
00:04:46LEAD TO STRIKING DOWN LAWS THAT
HAVE BEEN PASSED AND UPHELD AND
00:04:50SO REPRESENTATIVE LYNCH WOULD
HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION
00:04:52HIMSELF.
BUT CERTAINLY WE THINK THE
00:04:55HEARTBEAT BILL MOVES THE CAUSE
OF ANTI-ABORTION BACK, NOT
00:05:01FORWARD, AND THAT'S THE POSITION
OF RIGHT TO LIFE, AND WE WOULD
00:05:04NOT BE FAVORABLE TO THAT
AMENDMENT."
00:05:06>> WEDNESDAY, THE HEARTBEAT BILL
WAS BACK AND STANDING ALONE ON
00:05:10THE HOUSE AGENDA.
AFTER AN EXTENDED PERIOD
00:05:12FEATURING SEVERAL FAREWELL
SPEECHES FROM STATE LAWMAKERS,
00:05:17IT FINALLY CAME UP AND WAS
DISCUSSED IN A PLANNED, VERY
00:05:18LIMITED DEBATE THAT LASTED JUST
15 MINUTES WITH ONLY TWO
00:05:21SPEAKERS -- REPUBLICAN CHRISTINA
HAGAN OF ALLIANCE, THE
00:05:25CO-SPONSOR OF THE BILL, AND
DEMOCRAT JOHN CARNEY OF
00:05:27COLUMBUS.
>> I HAVE HEARD THE NOTION THAT
00:05:31WE HAVE DONE MUCH AND THEREFORE
SHOULD NOT CARRY FORWARD.
00:05:35APPLY THAT TO ANY OTHER
LEGISLATIVE ACT WE HAVE CREATED.
00:05:41REEVALUATE THIS WAY OF THINKING.
WE HAVE COME A LIVE MY DESK A
00:05:44LONG WAY -- WE HAVE COME A LONG
WAY.
00:05:47WE SHOULD ALWAYS CONTINUE TO DO
THAT.
00:05:50>> BECAUSE THESE IT SORTS OF
ISSUES ARE SO FILLED WITH
00:05:56EMOTION THAT WE THINK A TEST
LIKE A HEARTBEAT IS ENOUGH TO
00:06:03DETERMINE WHAT SIGNS SHOULD DO.
-- WHAT SIGNS SHOULD DO.
00:06:10WE SHOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THOSE
WHO GO TO MEDICAL SCHOOL AND
00:06:12HAVE DEVOTED THEMSELVES
PROVIDING EXCELLENT HEALTH CARE
00:06:14SERVICES HERE IN OUR STATE.
>> BUT IN A VERY RARE MOVE, THE
00:06:19LEGISLATION FAILED ON THE FLOOR,
47-40.
00:06:2011 HOUSE REPUBLICANS VOTED
AGAINST THE BILL AND 1 ABSTAINED
00:06:23FROM VOTING ON THE BILL THAT HAD
BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTED BY
00:06:26NEARLY ALL OF THEM.
THAT WASN'T THE ONLY UNORTHODOX
00:06:31MOVE FOR A CONTROVERSIAL BILL.
REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE JOHN
00:06:34ADAMS OF SIDNEY IN WESTERN OHIO
HAD TRIED TO ADD THE ATTEMPT TO
00:06:37REPEAL THE COMMON CORE EDUCATION
STANDARDS INTO A BILL THAT WOULD
00:06:41REQUIRE THE TEACHING OF WORLD
HISTORY IN OHIO PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
00:06:45BUT THE BILL HAD ALREADY BEEN
AMENDED ONCE AND SO COULD NOT
00:06:48TECHNICALLY BE AMENDED AGAIN.
THAT PREVENTED ADAMS FROM BEING
00:06:51SUCCESSFUL, WITH HOUSE SPEAKER
WILLIAM BATCHELDER RULING HIS
00:06:54PROPOSED CHANGE OUT OF ORDER.
ANTI-COMMON CORE REPUBLICANS HAD
00:06:58HOPED TO REPEAL THE STANDARDS
BEFORE THE SESSION CLOSED, EVEN
00:07:02PROPOSING A NEW BILL TO BE HEARD
IN A COMMITTEE OTHER THAN THE
00:07:05EDUCATION COMMITTEE, BECAUSE OF
THE OPPOSITION TO THE REPEAL BY
00:07:08REPUBLICAN GERALD STEBELTON OF
LANCASTER.
00:07:13WITH STEBELTON GONE BECAUSE OF
TERM LIMITS, IT'S EXPECTED THAT
00:07:15REPEAL ATTEMPT WILL RETURN AGAIN
NEXT SESSION.
00:07:26THERE WAS ALSO ACTION ON SEVERAL
OTHER ITEMS. REQUIREMENT THAT A
00:07:28POLICE OFFICER BE POSTED WITH
EACH TRAFFIC CAMERA.
00:07:35PROTECTION OF THE NAMES OF
PHARMACIES THAT COMPOUND DEADLY
00:07:40DRUGS FOR USE IN EXECUTIONS
.
00:07:42STRENGTHENED PENALTIES FOR MONEY
LAUNDERING AT CASINOS AND
00:07:45ALLOWING FOR INSTANT BINGO
LICENSES OTHER THAN AT BINGO
00:07:49SESSIONS.
CREATION OF A SALES TAX HOLIDAY
00:07:52LEGALIZATION OF THE USE OF
CONSUMER GRADE FIREWORKS IN OHIO
00:07:56.
PERMISSION FOR HUNTERS TO USE
00:07:58SILENCERS AND FOR A REDUCTION IN
TRAINING TIME TO GET A CONCEALED
00:08:01WEAPONS PERMIT FROM 12 HOURS TO
EIGHT.
00:08:06INCLUSION OF FAMILY PETS IN
PROTECTIVE ORDERS OBTAINED BY
00:08:09VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
.
00:08:15CREATION OF THE POSITION OF OHIO
POET LAUREATE.
00:08:17THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT WAS LEFT
ON THE TABLE ON THURSDAY WAS
00:08:21REDISTRICTING.
THE HOUSE HAD VOTED OUT A
00:08:22REDISTRICTING RESOLUTION FROM
REPRESENTATIVE MATT HUFFMAN OF
00:08:24LIMA WITH OVERWHELMING
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT, 80-4.
00:08:26SENATE PRESIDENT KEITH FABER HAD
ALSO DEVELOPED A REDISTRICTING
00:08:28RESOLUTION, WHICH WAS DIFFERENT
FROM HUFFMAN'S IN THAT IT DIDN'T
00:08:29INCLUDE WHAT'S KNOWN AS AN
IMPASSE RESOLUTION, OR A WAY TO
00:08:31RESOLVE DISPUTES OVER A MAP THAT
THE SEVEN MEMBER COMMISSION
00:08:33WOULD DRAW.
IN THE END, THE SENATE AGREED TO
00:08:35SOME CHANGES IN THE
REDISTRICTING PROCESS, WHICH
00:08:37MEANS A HISTORIC VOTE TO CHANGE
THE WAY THE MAPS ARE DRAWN.
00:08:39>> THE HALLMARKS OF THIS
PROPOSAL ARE THAT IT REQUIRES
00:08:45BIPARTISAN BOAT -- VOTE TO
REDRAW DISTRICT LINES.
00:08:51IF THE LEGISLATIVE AND STATEWIDE
PANEL, SEVEN MEMBER PANEL CANNOT
00:09:00AGREE ON DISTRICT LINES, THERE
IS AN IMPASSE DIVISION.
00:09:02IT HAS RISKS FOR BOTH SIDES.
IT IS DESIGNED IN SUCH A WAY TO
00:09:07ENCOURAGE AGREEMENT.
>> WE'LL GO OVER THEM IN MORE
00:09:10DETAIL NEXT WEEK.
ON WEDNESDAY MORNING, WITH THE
00:09:12REDISTRICTING ISSUE STILL UP IN
THE AIR, A VERY TIMELY
00:09:14DISCUSSION COMMENCED AT THE OHIO
STATE UNIVERSITY'S MORITZ
00:09:16COLLEGE OF LAW, AND I WAS
FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE A PART OF
00:09:18IT.
THE EVENT WAS SPONSORED BY THE
00:09:20BIPARTISAN POLICY CENTER AND
FEATURED A PANEL OF EXPERTS
00:09:23INCLUDING HERB ASHER AND FORMER
SENATOR MARK WAGONER, BOTH
00:09:26MEMBERS OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL
MODERNIZATION COMMISSION AND NED
00:09:29FOLEY, THE DIRECTOR OF ELECTION
LAW AT MORITZ.
00:09:32BUT AS THEIR OPENING ACT WAS A
DISCUSSION BETWEEN SECRETARY OF
00:09:35STATE JON HUSTED AND ME ABOUT
REDISTRICTING.
00:09:38I SET UP THE CONVERSATION BY
OFFERING A TIMELINE OF WHAT'S
00:09:40HAPPENED IN THE LAST TEN YEARS,
DURING WHICH VOTERS HAVE
00:09:43REJECTED TWO BALLOT ISSUES THAT
ATTEMPTED TO CHANGE THE
00:09:47REDISTRICTING PROCESS -- A
REPUBLICAN-BACKED RESOLUTION
00:09:49FAILED IN THE HOUSE IN 2006,
JUST BEFORE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER
00:10:00THE HOUSE, AND ANOTHER
REPUBLICAN-SPONSORED RESOLUTION
00:10:01FAILED IN THE REPUBLICAN-RUN
HOUSE IN 2010, JUST AFTER THE
00:10:03GOP WON A MASSIVE VICTORY IN
THAT YEAR POSSIBLE ELECTIONS.
00:10:07THE MAPS WERE REDRAWN IN 2011
RESULTING IN A PROPOSAL FOR TWO
00:10:13PRIMARIES IN 2012, A LAWSUIT BY
DEMOCRATS, A TRY FOR ANOTHER
00:10:14BALLOT ISSUE AND EVENTUALLY A
COMPROMISE THAT ENDED UP WITH
00:10:16THE MAPS THAT HAVE BEEN BLASTED
AS AGGRESSIVELY GERRYMANDERED,
00:10:19RIDICULOUS AND GROTESQUE.
>> A LOT OF THINGS HAVE
00:10:26HAPPENED.
WHICH IS TRUE.
00:10:27THE ONE THING THAT HAS HAPPENED
THAT I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A
00:10:35BROADER ACCEPTANCE THAT REFORM
IS NEEDED.
00:10:39BEFORE YOU GET INTO REFORMING
ANYTHING, YOU HAVE TO FIRST
00:10:45BELIEVE IT IS NECESSARY.
OR, IN SOME CASES, INEVITABLE.
00:10:48I THINK WE ARE THERE FOR THE
MOST PART IN OHIO.
00:10:52THAT IS A WINNING ASPECT OF
WHAT'S HAPPENING.
00:10:55THE QUESTION WE ARE STILL
STRUGGLING WITH IS WHAT IS
00:11:02REFORM.
THE DETAILS MATTER.
00:11:05THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT IS GOING
ON RIGHT NOW IN THE OHIO
00:11:09LEGISLATOR -- LEGISLATURE.
WORKING THROUGH THE DETAILS.
00:11:14WHAT YOU HAVE IS YOU ARE ASKING
PEOPLE TO TRUST ONE ANOTHER ON A
00:11:22BIPARTISAN BASIS.
WE KNOW THERE IS A DEEP WELL TO
00:11:26REACH INTO FOR THAT.
IT IS HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO
00:11:30TRUST ONE ANOTHER WHEN THEY HAVE
VERY LITTLE EXPERIENCE IN DOING
00:11:35SO.
>> ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT
00:11:38REDISTRICTING USUALLY INVOLVES
THE NUMBERS.
00:11:43IN THIS CASE, THE MARGINS OF
VICTORY IN THE MOST RECENT
00:11:44ELECTIONS.
HUSTED HAD THOSE AT THE READY.
00:11:45>> THE AVERAGE, IF YOU LOOK AT
THE CONGRESSIONAL RACES, THE
00:11:50CLOSEST RACE WAS ALMOST 20
POINTS.
00:11:51THE PURPLEST OF PURPLE STATES,
THE CLOSEST CONGRESSIONAL RACE
00:12:02IS 20 POINTS.
IN THE OHIO SENATE, IT WAS THE
00:12:05CLOSEST RACE AT 14 POINTS.
FOR RACES THAT WERE COMPLETELY
00:12:12UNOPPOSED.
THE AVERAGE WAS 48 POINTS.
00:12:15IF YOU TAKE OUT THE UNOPPOSED.
IN THE HOUSE, SIX RACES WITH
00:12:22INTENT POINTS -- WITHIN 10
POINTS.
00:12:26FROM A LEGISLATIVE POINT OF VIEW
, I HAVE USED THE TERM THE
00:12:36REDISTRICTING PROCESS IS
FRACTURING THE FOUNDATION OF
00:12:42WHICH ARE DOCTORS -- ON WHICH
OUR DEMOCRACY IS BASED.
00:12:44WHO WINS THE PRIMARY IS PRETTY
MUCH PREDETERMINED TO WIN THE
00:12:55GENERAL ELECTION.
WHY NOW?
00:12:56I WOULD ARGUE THE ISSUE SHOULD
HAVE BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO.
00:13:02THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE
CHANGED.
00:13:03COMPUTERS AND TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE
ALLOW PEOPLE TO BECOME MORE
00:13:11CREATIVE IN MAKING THE DISTRICTS
MORE AND MORE PARTISAN IN TERMS
00:13:18OF THEIR FAVOR OR FLAVOR.
THE WAY WE LIVE HAS CHANGED.
00:13:24WE TEND TO LIVE
SOCIOECONOMICALLY AND THUS
00:13:31POLITICALLY VERY ISOLATED
COMMUNITIES.
00:13:32WE TEND TO LIVE IN VERY -- IF
YOU LOOK IN OHIO, IN VERY RED
00:13:40COMMUNITIES AND VERY BLUE
COMMUNITIES.
00:13:45THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CREATE
POLITICAL BALANCES TO WANT TO
00:13:50AND BE REQUIRED TO.
YOU LOOK AT A MAP SOMETIMES AND
00:13:53YOU WILL SEE THAT WE HAVE SELF
SEGREGATED OURSELVES ON
00:13:58SOCIOECONOMIC TERMS MORE SO THAN
EVER IN OUR COUNTRY PROCESS
00:14:02THREE.
-- COUNTRY'S HISTORY.
00:14:08THOSE THINGS HAVE EXACERBATED
THE PROBLEM OVER THE PAST FEW
00:14:14DECADES IN AMERICA AND OHIO.
THAT MAKES IT MORE AND MORE
00:14:19IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK TO TRY TO
CREATE A MORE COMPETITIVE
00:14:24ATMOSPHERE.
I ALSO THINK THAT THE POLITICAL
00:14:29REASON IT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT,
AS I TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE
00:14:34ON MY SIDE OF THE AISLE, LOOK,
THIS IS LIKE THE CASINOS.
00:14:36IT HAS BEEN DEFEATED SEVERAL
TIMES AT THE BALLOT BOX.
00:14:41EVENTUALLY, IT WILL WIN.
THE QUESTION IS, ARE YOU ONE TO
00:14:47BE INVOLVED IN DOING SOME THING
YOU CAN LIVE WITH OR WOULD YOU
00:14:49LIKE TO BE DELIVERED SOMETHING
YOU DON'T LIKE?
00:14:52THE OHIO CONSTITUTION TODAY,
THAT IS NOT WHAT IT SHOULD BE
00:15:05FOR.
SOMETIMES IT HAPPENS.
00:15:08DON'T BE ON THE END OF A BAD
PROPOSAL.
00:15:14BE PROACTIVE IN CREATING GOOD
PROPOSALS THAT EVERYONE CAN LIVE
00:15:16WITH.
THAT PLUS THE FACT THAT MORE AND
00:15:19MORE PEOPLE HAVE MADE PROMISES
THEY WOULD DO SOMETHING AND
00:15:26EVENTUALLY DON'T KEEP YOUR
PROMISES, YOU ARE HELD
00:15:27ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT.
>> HE TOOK A QUESTION FROM
00:15:35AN AUDIENCE MEMBER ABOUT THE
IDEA FROM THE HOUSE RESOLUTION,
00:15:40WHICH WOULD REPLACE THE FIVE
MEMBER APPORTIONMENT BOARD,
00:15:42WHICH COMPRISES THE GOVERNOR,
THE AUDITOR AND THE SECRETARY OF
00:15:47STATE ALONG WITH TWO LAWMAKERS,
ONE FROM EITHER PARTY, WITH
00:15:48SEVEN APPOINTED STATE LAWMAKERS
AND NO ELECTED EXECUTIVE
00:15:50STATEWIDE OFFICEHOLDERS.
>> THE LEGISLATURE ITSELF WOULD
00:15:55HAVE THE SOLE AUTHORITY TO DRAW
THEIR OWN MAPS.
00:15:56I THINK THAT MAKES IT HARDER TO
SELL AT THE BALLOT BOX, FOR ONE
00:16:03THING.
IN THE WORST CIRCUMSTANCE, IT
00:16:10ALLOWS FOR COLLUSION TO OCCUR BY
SAYING YOU DO THIS ONE AND I'LL
00:16:18DO THIS ONE AND WE WILL CARVE IT
UP ALL NICE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO
00:16:21ARE OUR FRIENDS AND THAT IS THE
WAY WE WILL DO IT WITHOUT
00:16:25ANYBODY HAVING ANY SAY TO STOP
THEM FROM A CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS
00:16:29IT SOMETHING UNFORTUNATE LIKE
THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
00:16:32I JUST BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE A
CHECK ON THAT.
00:16:39AND EVER SO SMALL CHECK OF ONE
VOTE FROM SOMEBODY OUTSIDE OF
00:16:48THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS TO GIVE
THEIR ENDORSEMENT TO IT SO THEY
00:16:50HAVE A PERSON WHO CAN REALLY
REPRESENT THE ENTIRE INTEREST OF
00:16:53THE STATE TO PROVIDE A CHECK OR
A BALANCE ON THAT PROCESS.
00:16:57I DON'T THINK THE IDEA THAT THE
LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO GIVE
00:17:04ITSELF A NEW CONSTITUTIONAL
AUTHORITY TO DRAW ITS OWN MAPS
00:17:08IS SOMETHING THAT WILL SELL
REALLY WELL TO THE PUBLIC.
00:17:09IT WILL BRING AN UNDESERVED
LEVEL OF SKEPTICISM ON THE
00:17:18PROCESS IF THEY DO IT THIS WAY.
IT WILL LOOK SELF-SERVING.
00:17:23>> WHATEVER THE LEGISLATURE
DOES, THE VOTERS HAVE THE
00:17:28ULTIMATE SAY.
WE HAVE HAD TROUBLE GETTING
00:17:36VOTERS TO GO ALONG WITH PREVIOUS
EFFORTS AT REDISTRICTING REFORM.
00:17:39LARGELY BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN
COMPLETED AND DIFFICULT TO
00:17:44UNDERSTAND.
ISN'T THIS A DIFFICULT ISSUE TO
00:17:47UNDERSTAND ANYWAY?
HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET VOTERS
00:17:50-- WE ONLY HAVE 40% OF VOTERS
TURN OUT THIS LAST TIME AROUND.
00:17:53HOW DO WE GET VOTERS INTERESTED
AND ENGAGED IN THIS AND SUPPORT
00:17:59SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED TO
WEIGH IN ON?
00:18:00>> IF YOU HAVE A GOOD PROPOSAL
THAT IS BIPARTISAN AND HAS --
00:18:11THERE WILL NOT BE ANY OPPOSITION
TO IT.
00:18:12THEY DID NOT HAVE BUY-IN FROM
THE ELECTED LEADERS OF THE
00:18:20STATE.
THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE
00:18:23BUY-IN FROM BOTH PARTIES, THE
ELECTED LEADERS OF THE STATE.
00:18:29YOU WILL FIND AMONG OPINION
LEADERS ACROSS THE STATE THAT
00:18:36ENABLE FIND IT AS SOMETHING
WORTHY OF SUPPORT.
00:18:38YOU WILL HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE
POLITICAL LEFT ORGANIZATIONS
00:18:45SUPPORTING IT AND POLITICAL
RIGHTS SUPPORTING IT.
00:18:46THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE MOST
PROGRESSIVE GROUPS IN OHIO AND
00:18:52TEA PARTY PEOPLE AGREE ON.
THEY DON'T LIKE THE SYSTEM BEING
00:18:59FIXED.
WHEN YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF
00:19:01BROAD-BASED IDEOLOGICAL SUPPORT,
LEADERSHIP SUPPORT, THE VOTERS
00:19:07WILL WELCOME THAT.
>> HUSTED SAID HE WANTS LESS
00:19:13SPECIFICITY IN A REDISTRICTING
PLAN, SO IT'S EASIER TO
00:19:15UNDERSTAND.
BUT HE ADMITS THAT CLEARER RULES
00:19:16COULD BE A PROBLEM.
>> YOU DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO
00:19:21HAVE RAISED QUESTIONS NOT ONLY
ABOUT WHETHER IT WOULD BE FAIR
00:19:24OR NOT BUT IF YOU MAKE THE RULES
CLEARER, WOULD IT MAKE IT EASIER
00:19:30FOR PEOPLE TO CHALLENGE AND GO
TO COURT OVER THESE THINGS?
00:19:33>> THAT IS THE WORRY.
THE MORE SPECIFIC YOU GET, THE
00:19:39MARK APPEL KENNEDY GETS, THE
MORE MIKE LEAKE -- THE MORE
00:19:43COMPLICATED IT GETS, THE MORE
LIKELY COURTS WILL GET INVOLVED.
00:19:47>> WHAT ABOUT OUTSIDE GROUPS?
>> THEY CERTAINLY CAN.
00:19:52TYPICALLY, IF YOU HAVE A GOOD
BIPARTISAN PROCESS, COURTS WILL
00:19:58RESPECT THAT.
THAT IS WHY I WANT TO AVOID THIS
00:20:05POTENTIAL FOR COLLUSION WITH THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.
00:20:12ADDING THE OUTSIDE CHECK WOULD
BE ONE MORE IMPROVEMENT THAT
00:20:21MAKES THAT LESS LIKELY THAT YOU
WILL HAVE TO END UP GOING TO
00:20:25COURT BECAUSE SOMETHING
UNACCEPTABLE HAPPENED.
00:20:30>> THE UNHAPPY PEOPLE DO GO TO
COURT.
00:20:33WE HAVE SEEN IT OVER AND OVER.
>> I KNOW.
00:20:37[LAUGHTER]
THAT IS THE AMERICAN SYSTEM.
00:20:45YOU ARE ALLOWED TO GO TO COURT.
YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO DEMOCRATS
00:20:50OR REPUBLICANS GOING TO COURT
OVER THIS BECAUSE HOPEFULLY THEY
00:20:52WILL HAVE WORKED OUT.
IT'S NOT LIKE DEMOCRATS OR
00:20:55REPUBLICANS -- IS
MAJORITY-MINORITY.
00:21:00DOWN THE ROAD, IT COULD BE
SOMEBODY ELSE.
00:21:04THIS NEEDS TO STAND THE TEST OF
TIME.
00:21:10WE DON'T KNOW -- WHEN YOU DO
SOMETHING NEW, YOU DON'T KNOW.
00:21:14>> AS FOR THE IDEA OF COMPUTERS
DRAWING THE MAPS, HUSTED SAID
00:21:18THAT WAS A TERRIBLE IDEA, SAYING
PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE GOVERNED
00:21:20BY COMPUTERS BUT BY THOUGHTFUL
LAWMAKERS MAKING GOOD POLICY.
00:21:24AGAIN, A LOT OF THIS
CONVERSATION WAS SPECULATIVE, AS
00:21:26WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE
LEGISLATURE WOULD OR WOULDN'T DO
00:21:28IN THE FOLLOWING FEW DAYS.
BUT HUSTED SAID HE WAS
00:21:32CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC, AND HAD
BEEN CALLING LAWMAKERS TO PUSH
00:21:34THEM TO PASS REDISTRICTING
CHANGES.
00:21:39>> THIS IS A REALLY BIG ISSUE
AND THIS IS -- THE PRESENCE
00:21:50MATTERS ON THIS.
THE SPEAKERS LEADERSHIP MATTERS
00:21:51ON THIS.
FROM MY EXPERIENCE, I KNOW THAT
00:22:00NERVES ARE PRETTY RAW BETWEEN
THE TWO BODIES.
00:22:01IT HAPPENS EVERY LAME-DUCK
SESSION BECAUSE PEOPLE START
00:22:03KEEPING SCORE.
THE HOUSE GOT THIS THING, THE
00:22:06SENATE GOT THIS THING.
IT MAKES IT REALLY HARD.
00:22:13THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES I
HOPE THE LEADERS WILL RISE ABOVE
00:22:15AND PROVIDE THE LEADERSHIP.
IT CAN ONLY COME FROM THE TOP.
00:22:19WHERE THEY DECIDE WE ARE NOT
GOING TO LET SOME OF THE ISSUES
00:22:28THAT ARE DISTRACTING OUR BODIES
OR CREATING ANIMOSITY BETWEEN
00:22:33OUR BODIES GET IN THE WAY OF
THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
00:22:34THEY CAN FIGHT ABOUT THOSE
THINGS ON THE OTHER ONES BUT
00:22:39THIS ONE IS SO IMPORTANT AND
WILL HAVE SUCH A LASTING IMPACT
00:22:42THAT THEY HAVE TO RISE ABOVE ALL
THOSE THINGS TO PROVIDE
00:22:47LEADERSHIP ON THIS.
>> I ALSO ASKED HUSTED ABOUT
00:22:49OTHER VOTING-RELATED ISSUES.
HE TALKED ABOUT HIS HOPE THAT
00:22:51STATE LAWMAKERS WILL HELP WITH
HIS GOAL OF CREATING ONLINE
00:22:53VOTER REGISTRATION, BUT HAS A
DIFFERENT VIEW OF ONLINE VOTING.
00:22:54>> WHAT ABOUT ONLINE VOTING?
IS THAT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE
00:23:02OR NEAR FUTURE?
>> SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE
00:23:11AFTER I'M NO LONGER SECRETARY OF
STATE.
00:23:12[LAUGHTER]
PEOPLE TRUST THE SYSTEM.
00:23:15THAT'S WHERE ONLINE VOTING IS
PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE YOU OPEN UP
00:23:20A NEW WINDOW IN WHICH PEOPLE CAN
BECOME LESS TRUSTING OF HOW THE
00:23:23SYSTEM WORKS.
THEY THINK IT CAN BE CORRUPTED
00:23:30BECAUSE THEY KNOW IF TARGET CAN
LOSE ALL OF MY CREDIT DATA AND
00:23:35INFORMATION, WHY CAN'T THE
GOVERNMENT MESSED THAT UP AS IT
00:23:37RELATES TO VOTING?
IT'S A VALID QUESTION.
00:23:41>> HUSTED SAID HE'S ALREADY
ISSUED A SCHEDULE FOR VOTING
00:23:45DURING THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
OF 2016, WHICH HE SAYS INCLUDES
00:23:47EXPANDED HOURS AND TIMES AND
ALSO VOTING ON WEEKENDS, BUT HE
00:23:50ADMITS THAT LAWMAKERS COULD
STILL TAKE ACTION TO CHANGE
00:23:52THAT.
THIS MONTH, THE NEWLY RE-ELECTED
00:23:55REPUBLICAN STATE TREASURER MADE
GOOD ON A CAMPAIGN PROMISE, ONE
00:24:00OF THE FEW HE MADE THIS ELECTION
YEAR, SINCE HE DID ALMOST NO
00:24:03CAMPAIGNING.
THAT PROMISE, TO PUT OHIO'S
00:24:05CHECKBOOK ONLINE TO SHOW HOW THE
STATE IS SPENDING ITS MONEY.
00:24:14ANGELA REIGHARD WENT TO MANDEL'S
OFFICE FOR AN INDEPTH LOOK IN
00:24:16OHIOCHECKBOOK.COM.
>> TRACKING PERSONAL SPENDING IS
00:24:24EASY.
PULL OUT THE CHECKBOOK.
00:24:25KEEPING TRACK OF GOVERNMENT
SPENDING HAS NOT BEEN THAT
00:24:27SIMPLE.
THAT IS, UNTIL NOW.
00:24:29ACCORDING TO STATE TREASURER
JOSH MANDEL.
00:24:31>> IT WILL MAKE THE BUREAUCRATS
AND POLITICIANS THINK TWICE
00:24:37BEFORE THEY GO TO THAT
CONFERENCE IN HAWAII WHEN THEY
00:24:40COULD'VE GONE TO CINCINNATI.
>> THE STATE UNVEILED
00:24:42OHIOCHECKBOOK.COM.
IT ALLOWS THE PUBLIC TO VIEW,
00:24:49COMPARE AND SHARE INFORMATION ON
STATE SPENDING, WHICH ADDS UP TO
00:24:52MORE THAN $400 BILLION OVER THE
PAST SEVEN YEARS.
00:24:54BY TYPING KEYWORDS INTO A GOOGLE
LIKE SEARCH, TAXPAYERS CAN FIND
00:25:01SPECIFIC PIECES OF INFORMATION.
>> EVERYTHING FROM TWO DOLLARS
00:25:06FOR A PACK OF PENCILS TO $1
MILLION FOR ORDER CONTRACTS AND
00:25:08EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
>> THERE ARE A FEW THINGS YOU
00:25:12CAN FIND ON THE WEBSITE.
>> PERSONAL TAX REFUNDS.
00:25:18THOSE THINGS WILL NOT BE ON
THERE.
00:25:19IF THERE IS A STATE EMPLOYEE WHO
WAS REIMBURSED, THEIR NAME WILL
00:25:24BE ON THERE.
>> A CHECKBOOK FOR THE STATE IS
00:25:28ONLY THE BEGINNING.
HE WILL ASK LOCAL OFFICES TO
00:25:33JOIN IN.
>> THEY HAVE TO SEND HER
00:25:34INFORMATION TO OUR OFFICE AND WE
WILL HOUSE THE DATA.
00:25:35>> THE STATE WILL EVEN PUT THE
BILL FOR ANY AGENCY THAT WANTS
00:25:41TO GET ON BOARD.
>> ANGELA IS A FELLOW IN THE
00:25:47E.W. SCRIPPS SCHOOL OF
JOURNALISM STATEHOUSE NEWS
00:25:50BUREAU.
SHE JUST ENDED HER FELLOWSHIP
00:25:51WITH US LAST WEEK, AND WE WISH
HER NOTHING BUT THE BEST.
00:25:54AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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