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KAREN KASLER: THE LIBERTARIAN
00:00:19WHO WANTED TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR
FINALLY GETS A RULING ON A
00:00:23COMPLAINT FROM LAST YEAR'S
ELECTION.
00:00:24THE VOTE IN THE U.S. SENATE RACE
IS 18 MONTHS AWAY, BUT IT IS
00:00:26ALREADY STARTING TO HEAT UP.
AND ADVOCATES FOR OHIO'S POOREST
00:00:29PEOPLE ARE HOPING FOR HELP IN
THE FINAL VERSION OF THE STATE
00:00:31BUDGET.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:00:33OHIO."
THOUGH IT HAS BEEN ALMOST SEVEN
00:00:46MONTHS SINCE THE 2014 GOVERNOR'S
RACE, A BATTLE WAGED BY THE
00:00:48LIBERTARIAN WHO WANTED TO BE ON
THE BALLOT FINALLY ENDED THIS
00:00:49WEEK.
THE STATE'S ELECTIONS COMMISSION
00:00:56VOTED 5-2 TO DISMISS THE
COMPLAINT FROM CHARLIE EARL, WHO
00:00:58CLAIMED THAT REPUBLICAN
CONSULTANT TERRY CASEY CONSPIRED
00:01:02WITH THE KASICH/TAYLOR CAMPAIGN
TO GET EARL'S NOMINATING
00:01:06PETITIONS TOSSED OUT.
EARL WANTED KASICH'S CAMPAIGN
00:01:09FINED $720,000.
CASEY HAD SAID HE PROTESTED THE
00:01:12PETITIONS BECAUSE OF DEMOCRATS'
INVOLVEMENT IN RECRUITING EARL
00:01:15TO RUN AGAINST GOV.
JOHN KASICH, TO DRAW VOTES AWAY
00:01:18FROM HIM.
IT TURNED OUT NOT TO MATTER
00:01:20MUCH, SINCE KASICH WON
RE-ELECTION IN A LANDSLIDE.
00:01:24A NEW STATUE OF ONE OF OHIO'S
MOST FAMOUS EXPORTS IS AT THE
00:01:27STATEHOUSE THROUGH THE FALL, AND
THEN MOVES TO A PERMANENT HOME
00:01:31IN THE U.S. CAPITOL.
THIS WEEK, OFFICIALS UNVEILED
00:01:33THE STATUE OF THOMAS EDISON,
CREATED BY ZANESVILLE SCULPTOR
00:01:36ALAN COTTRILL.
EDISON, ORIGINALLY FROM MILAN IN
00:01:39NORTH CENTRAL OHIO, WAS THE
FIGURE OHIOANS VOTING AT
00:01:43HISTORIC SITES SELECTED IN 2010
TO REPLACE FORMER GOV. WILLIAM
00:01:46ALLEN.
ALLEN'S STATUE HAD BEEN ONE OF
00:01:48OHIO'S TWO IN STATUARY HALL, BUT
THE STATE DECIDED TO REPLACE IT
00:01:53AFTER ALLEN'S PRO-SLAVERY VIEWS
BECAME MORE WIDELY KNOWN.
00:01:58EDISON RECEIVED MORE THAN A
THOUSAND PATENTS, INCLUDING ONE
00:02:00FOR THE FIRST PRACTICAL
INCANDESCENT LIGHT BULB, WHICH
00:02:02HIS STATUE IS HOLDING.
THE REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT FOR US
00:02:06SENATE HAS A POTENTIAL OPPONENT.
DON ECKHART OF GALLOWAY SAYS
00:02:13HE'S RUNNING AGAINST SENATOR ROB
PORTMAN.
00:02:16ECKHART HAS RUN TWICE BEFORE, IN
2004 FOR STATE SENATE AND IN
00:02:202008 FOR CONGRESS.
ECKHART SAYS HE'S STRONGLY
00:02:23AGAINST SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, WHICH
PORTMAN HAS SAID HE SUPPORTS,
00:02:26AND THAT HE IS STRONGLY
PRO-LIFE, WHICH IS IN AGREEMENT
00:02:28WITH PORTMAN'S VIEWS ON
ABORTION.
00:02:30ECKHART SAYS HE'S LONG BEEN
BOTHERED BY THE HUGE AMOUNTS OF
00:02:33MONEY IN POLITICS, AND THAT HE
WILL RELY ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND
00:02:35WHAT HE CALLS NETWORKS OF PEOPLE
TO GET HIS MESSAGE OUT.
00:02:39"I'M NOT INTO THE BIG, INTO THE
WAY THAT POLITICS HAS EVOLVED
00:02:42OVER THE LAST DECADE INTO, FROM
WHAT I'VE HEARD IT DESCRIBED,
00:02:53INTO BIG CONNECTIONS WITH BIG
MONEY.
00:02:56I'M NOT INTO THAT AT ALL."
KAREN KASLER: AT LAST REPORT,
00:03:04PORTMAN HAD RAISED MORE THAN $8
MILLION FOR HIS RE-ELECTION
00:03:06CAMPAIGN.
IT HAS BEEN A BUSY TWO WEEKS FOR
00:03:08THE MAN WHO APPEARS TO BE THE
UNDERDOG IN THE RACE FOR THE
00:03:10DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR U.S.
SENATE.
00:03:1430-YEAR-OLD CINCINNATI CITY
COUNCILMAN P.G. SITTENFELD SAID
00:03:15THIS WEEK HE IS CHALLENGING HIS
OPPONENT, FORMER GOV.
00:03:17TED STRICKLAND, TO A SERIES OF
SIX WHAT HE CALLS
00:03:19"ISSUE-ORIENTED" DEBATES IN
COLUMBUS, CLEVELAND, CINCINNATI,
00:03:21TOLEDO, YOUNGSTOWN AND DAYTON --
STARTING ON JULY 4.
00:03:25BUT A SPOKESPERSON FOR
STRICKLAND SAYS SITTENFELD HAS
00:03:27NOT CONTACTED THE CAMPAIGN ABOUT
THE PROPOSAL.
00:03:31LAST WEEK SITTENFELD WAS IN
COLUMBUS TO DELIVER A SPEECH
00:03:33THAT HIS CAMPAIGN SAID AFFIRMS
HIS CANDIDACY FOR U.S. SENATE --
00:03:37EVEN AS THE PARTY HAS OFFICIALLY
ENDORSED STRICKLAND.
00:03:41HE TALKED ON THE STATEHOUSE
STEPS ABOUT THE NEW IDEAS AND
00:03:43PERSPECTIVE HE SAYS HE BRINGS,
AND SAID OHIOANS DESERVE THE
00:03:47CHANCE TO VOTE FOR HIM.
AFTER THAT SPEECH, HE SAT DOWN
00:03:50WITH ME TO TALK ABOUT HIS
CAMPAIGN AND WHY HE'S IN IT.
00:03:59YOU WERE THE FIRST DEMOCRAT OUT
OF THE GATE IN THIS RACE AFTER
00:04:01WEEKS OF COMMENTS FROM PUNDITS
AND JOURNALISTS LIKE ME THAT
00:04:04SAID THE DEMOCRATS NEEDED TO
START THINKING ABOUT THE RACE
00:04:09FOR 2016.
YOU CAME OUT AND SAID YOU WERE
00:04:11IN THE RACE, SO WHAT MADE YOU
WANT TO JUMP IN?
00:04:13>> I TALKED TO YOUNG PEOPLE WHO
WANT MORE EDUCATIONAL
00:04:26OPPORTUNITY AND TALKED TO
FAMILIES MAKING INNER TABLE
00:04:32DECISIONS ABOUT DO YOU BUY
MEDICATIONS OR GROCERIES AND
00:04:36TALK TO SENIORS WHO WANTED TO
FEEL COMFORT.
00:04:41THERE IS AN OVERWHELMING SENSE
AMONG THE MAJORITY THAT
00:04:46WASHINGTON IS BROKEN.
THE ONLY WAY TO FIX IT IS TO
00:04:50SEND SOME NEW FACES AND FRESH
VOICES.
00:04:53THERE IS AN URGENT NEED FOR A
NEW GENERATION TO STEP UP AND I
00:04:58WANT TO PUT THE FOCUS ON THE
FUTURE.
00:05:02LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION OF
GETTING FROM WHERE WE ARE TO
00:05:05WHERE WE WANT TO GO.
THIS IS SOMETHING THE VOTERS
00:05:07WANT.
KAREN KASLER: 89% OF OHIOANS HAD
00:05:12NEVER HEARD OF YOU SO HOW DO YOU
CHANGE THAT?
00:05:14P.G. SITTENFELD: THAT COMES AS
NO SURPRISE BUT THAT IS WHY YOU
00:05:19RUN A CAMPAIGN.
THE POLLS, 20 MONTHS OUT IT DOES
00:05:24NOT LOOK LIKE HOW THINGS END UP
ON ELECTION DAY.
00:05:28I HAVE BEEN TO 20 DIFFERENT
COUNTIES AM A WHETHER IT IS BIG
00:05:30URBAN COUNTIES OR SMALLER RURAL
COUNTIES, WE HAVE GOTTEN A GREAT
00:05:34RESPONSE EVERYWHERE WE HAVE
GONE.
00:05:36I WILL BE PUTTING IN THIS WHITE
EQUITY.
00:05:40IT DOES TAKE A LEVEL OF
RESOURCES TO LEAD A SUCCESSFUL
00:05:45RACE.
WE HAVE POSTED A NUMBER THAT
00:05:47STANDS UP WELL IN U.S. SENATE
RACES NATIONALLY.
00:05:49MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, YOU WIN
BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT
00:05:52MESSAGE AND YOU ARE THE RIGHT
WORSEN FOR THE MOMENT AND THE
00:05:54RIGHT PERSON -- MESSAGE THAT
PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR IS NEW
00:05:59LEADERSHIP, NEW IDEAS, AND A
FOCUS ON THE FUTURE, NOT THE
00:06:01PAST AREA -- THE PAST.
KAREN KASLER: THE OTHER
00:06:05CANDIDATE WHO IS THE FORMER
GOVERNOR, THAT POLL HAD HIM
00:06:13BEATING PORTMAN.
THOSE NUMBERS DO SEE -- NOT
00:06:23SUGGEST THAT YOU WOULD DO WELL
THAT YOU POINT OUT THAT THIS IS
00:06:25A LONG WAY FROM THE ACTUAL
RESULTS.
00:06:26P.G. SITTENFELD: IT WAS A 20
MONTHS OUT PAUL AND ROB PORTMAN
00:06:36HAS A LOT OF NAME ID.
THAT IS WHY YOU RUN A CAMPAIGN
00:06:44AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING
EVERYONE AT THE FINISH LINE.
00:06:48KAREN KASLER: I NEED TO ASK YOU
ABOUT HIS BEING ENDORSED BY THE
00:06:54EVER CREDIT PARTY.
HE ALSO SEEMS TO HAVE THE
00:06:59SUPPORT OF NATIONAL AND
STATEWIDE DEMOCRATIC FIGURES.
00:07:04HOW DO YOU FIGHT AN UP HILL
BATTLE WITH SOMEONE WHO COMES IN
00:07:08WITH THIS TYPE OF SUPPORT?
P.G. SITTENFELD: THE PEOPLE
00:07:14DECIDE ELECTIONS, VOTERS DECIDE
ELECTIONS.
00:07:15SO MUCH IN THIS RACE EDITION AND
-- IN ADDITION TO STANDING UP
00:07:19FOR WOMEN MAKING THEIR OWN
HEALTH DECISIONS AND TAKING
00:07:25CLIMATE CHANGE SERIOUSLY AND
MAKING SURE THERE IS MORE -- NO
00:07:28MORE BAD TRADE DEALS THAT WERE
-- HURT OHIO WORKERS.
00:07:32IT IS ABOUT GIVING VOTERS A
CHOICE.
00:07:35I HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN COMMON
SENSE AND THEY CAN MAKE THEIR
00:07:39DECISIONS.
THEY DO NOT NEED BIG SHOTS AND
00:07:41PROVIDES TELLING THEM WHO THEIR
NOMINEE SHOULD BE.
00:07:48I LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING MY CASE
TO THE VOTERS AND THEY HAVE BEEN
00:07:50SUPPORTIVE.
KAREN KASLER: THERE HAS BEEN
00:07:51DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES
BETWEEN YOU AND THE GOVERNOR
00:07:56BASED ON YOUR VIEWPOINTS AND THE
KIND OF DIFFERENCES IN THE PARTY
00:07:59THAT YOU REPRESENT.
THERE ARE SOME WHO SAY THAT HE
00:08:01IS THE OLD GUARD OR TRUSTED
EXPERIENCED WING.
00:08:07YOUR NEWER, YOUNGER WITH NEW
IDEAS.
00:08:09IF YOU STAY IN THE RACE, DOESN'T
THAT THREATEN TO DIVIDE THE
00:08:14PARTY AT A TIME WHEN THE PARTY
NEEDS TO BE COMING TOGETHER TO
00:08:16ELECT A PRESIDENT OR SENATOR?
P.G. SITTENFELD: I WOULD SAY THE
00:08:20ALL THE -- OPPOSITE AND I WOULD
LOOK TO OUR LEADERS.
00:08:24THESE ARE FOLKS WHO WERE TESTED
AND STRENGTHENED AND EMERGED
00:08:32STRONGER IN THE GENERAL
ELECTION.
00:08:33I DO NOT THINK DEMOCRATS EVER
NEED TO FEAR A CONTEST OF IDEAS.
00:08:37FOLKS WANT TO BE GALVANIZED.
THEY WANT TO BE ENERGIZED.
00:08:39I AM GOING TO REACH OUT TO
VOTERS ACROSS THE SPECTRUM.
00:08:45YOUNG PEOPLE WILL BE ENERGIZED
AND ALL THAT WILL HELP THE
00:08:48NOMINEE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING THE
00:08:49PARTY'S NOMINEE BUT THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY SHOULD NOT SHY
00:08:52AWAY FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS
AND IF YOU LOOK AT OHIO HISTORY,
00:08:56THOSE WHO HAVE GONE ON TO WIN
EMERGED FROM PRIMARIES.
00:08:59KAREN KASLER: IF YOU WIN WHEN IT
CHANGED THE COURSE OF THE
00:09:02DEMOCRATIC PARTY, YOU HAD SOME
SUPPORT, MAYBE YOU DID NOT
00:09:07SUGGEST IT FROM SUPREME COURT
JUSTICE BILL O'NEILL WHO SAID
00:09:13DEMOCRATS NEED TO LEAVE THE
PARTY, THE INMATES ARE RUNNING
00:09:17THE ASYLUM.
WOULD IT CHANGE THE PARTY IF YOU
00:09:19WERE TO WIN?
P.G. SITTENFELD: PEOPLE WANT TO
00:09:23SEE GOVERNMENT THAT LOOKS LIKE
WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.
00:09:24I FEEL PASSIONATE THAT THE U.S.
SENATE NEED MORE WOMEN AND
00:09:29MINORITIES AND YOUNG PEOPLE.
I COME FROM THE BIGGEST AND MOST
00:09:33TECHNOLOGICALLY SAVVY GENERATION
IN AMERICAN HISTORY AND YET WE
00:09:36HAVE ZERO REPRESENTATION IN THE
U.S. SENATE.
00:09:37THE BIG HOW -- PART OF HOW IT
COULD CHANGE IS OFFERING THESE
00:09:44FRESH PERSPECTIVES.
ONE OF MY SISTERS WHO IS A
00:09:46NOVELIST FOR HER CAREER WROTE A
PIECE ABOUT WHY SHE SUPPORTS HER
00:09:50BROTHER IN "THE HUFFINGTON
POST."
00:09:52SHE SAID IT MIGHT BE REFRESHING
TO HAVE SENATORS WHO KNOW HOW TO
00:10:00SEND THEIR OWN TWEETS.
THE WORLD IS CHANGING.
00:10:03THERE IS SO MUCH WE CAN DO TO
HARNESS THE POWER OF TECHNOLOGY
00:10:07AND INNOVATION TO SOLVE
PROBLEMS.
00:10:09I DO NOT WANT THE CONVERSATION
AROUND SOMETHING LIKE I'M A
00:10:12CHANGE TO BE THE CONVERSATION
FROM 10 YEARS AGO.
00:10:16LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
HOW CAN WE MOVE FORWARD AND TAKE
00:10:18THE RECOVERY THAT WE ARE
EXPERIENCING AND REINVESTED IN
00:10:23WORKING FAMILIES?
HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT YOUNG
00:10:24PEOPLE ARE LIBERATED TO GET
MARRIED AND BY THAT FIRST HOUSE
00:10:32RATHER THAN BEING CRUSHED
BENEATH A MOUNTAIN OF'S TWO NEW
00:10:35LOAN DEBT.
WE HAVE THE RIGHT IDEAS AND I
00:10:36WILL SPREAD THEM AS FAR AND WIDE
AS I CAN.
00:10:39KAREN KASLER: THE WHOLE
PROGRESSIVE GENDER -- AGENDA ARE
00:10:43THINGS LIKE INCOME INEQUALITY,
GUN CONTROL.
00:10:48YOU HAVE MENTIONED A COUPLE
OTHER ONES AND SAID THE STATE
00:10:50DOES NOT NEED TWO REPUBLICAN
PARTIES, THAT YOUR AGENDA IS
00:10:55DIFFERENT, THINGS YOU BELIEVE IN
MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM TED
00:11:01STRICKLAND.
IS THAT A WINNING STRATEGY IN A
00:11:02STATE THAT REELECTED REPUBLICANS
IN A LANDSLIDE AT THE EXECUTIVE
00:11:06LEVEL AND THE HOUSE AND IN THIS
STATE WHERE WE HAVE NOT HAD TWO
00:11:09DEMOCRATIC SENATORS SINCE THE
1980'S.
00:11:16P.G. SITTENFELD: PEOPLE MISS
THOSE DAYS.
00:11:21KAREN KASLER: IT IS A MODERATE
TO LEANING RIGHT.
00:11:24ISN'T IT?
P.G. SITTENFELD: IF YOU GIVE
00:11:28PEOPLE SOMETHING TO VOTE FOR,
YOU CAN HAVE LEADERS THAT
00:11:31IMPROVE YOUR DAY-TO-DAY LIFE,
THINGS LIKE RAISING THE MINIMUM
00:11:36WAGE AND EXPANDING THE EARNED IN
TACT -- INCOME TAX CREDIT, GIVE
00:11:40THEM SOMETHING TO VOTE FOR NOT
ONLY IN THE ECONOMIC SIDE, YOU
00:11:42CAN CHANGE THE NATURE OF THE
ELECTORATE.
00:11:47I WOULD CONSIDER THE FOLKS THAT
YOU MENTIONED SAY BARACK OBAMA
00:11:49CARRIED THE STATE OF OHIO TWICE,
SHERROD BROWN, NO ONE HAS MORE
00:11:54-- BEEN MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN
SENATOR BROWN.
00:11:56THESE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE
UNABASHED ABOUT OFFERING AN
00:12:00AGENDA THAT WORKS FOR WORKING
PEOPLE.
00:12:01I AM GOING TO DO THE SAME.
KAREN KASLER: THE BIG QUESTION
00:12:03IN THIS RACE IS MONEY.
WHOEVER IS GOING TO BE IN THIS
00:12:06RACE NEEDS A LOT OF IT READ YOU
HAVE RAISED A FAIR AMOUNT, SO
00:12:08HAS TED STRICKLAND.
ROB PORTMAN HAS OUTRAISED ALL OF
00:12:14YOU.
HOW DO YOU COMPETE UP AT --
00:12:15AGAINST ROB PORTMAN AND THE
MONEY HE BRINGS AND THE MONEY HE
00:12:19WILL ATTRACT?
P.G. SITTENFELD: HE NEEDS A LOT
00:12:21OF MONEY TO PAPER OVER A BAD
RECORD.
00:12:25IF I WERE ROB PORTMAN, THE
ARCHITECT OF THE BUSH ERA I DID
00:12:29BEFORE THE ECONOMY GOES OVER THE
CLIFF, WHEN THE TRADE DEFICIT
00:12:35WITH CHINA EXPLODES, HE HAS A
LONG RECORD IN A BAD WAY.
00:12:44IT WILL TAKE MONEY TO CONVINCE
THE VOTERS OTHERWISE.
00:12:47WE WENT OUT AND LET THE
DEMOCRATIC FIELD IN THE FIRST
00:12:51QUARTER OF FUNDRAISING.
EVERYONE FROM ERIC SCHMIDT TO
00:12:56DONORS ACROSS THE STATE
INVESTING IN MY VISION,
00:12:59INVESTING IN OUR CAMPAIGN.
I FEEL CONFIDENT WE WILL HAVE
00:13:00THE RESOURCES TO RUN THE KIND OF
CAMPAIGN THAT WE WANT TO RUN.
00:13:04THAT DOES NOT MEAN MATCHING ROB
PORTMAN OR TED STRICKLAND DOLLAR
00:13:10FOR DOLLAR.
IT MEANS HAVING ENOUGH MONEY TO
00:13:12SHARE YOUR MESSAGE OF IT IS THE
RIGHT MESSAGE.
00:13:13KAREN KASLER: YOU SAID YOU HAVE
SOMETHING TO OFFER.
00:13:18COULDN'T YOU GET OUT OF THIS
RACE IN -- WHEN IN 2018, WHY
00:13:27STAY IN THIS RACE AND ARE YOU
GETTING PRESSURE TO LEAVE?
00:13:29P.G. SITTENFELD: I THINK THERE
ARE THOSE WHO SAY WAIT YOUR
00:13:33TURN.
I AM RUNNING THIS RACE FOR
00:13:36PEOPLE WHOSE TURN NEVER SEEMS TO
COME.
00:13:38IT IS ABOUT THE URGENCY OF
ISSUES WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND THE
00:13:41YOUNG PEOPLE AND MOMS AND DADS
AND SENIORS ACROSS THE STATE WHO
00:13:43THEY CANNOT WAIT TO MORE YEARS
OR 10 MORE YEARS.
00:13:46I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING
THERE ADVOCATE, OFFERING AN
00:13:51AGENDA THAT WORKS FOR WORKING
PEOPLE AND REPRESENTING OUR
00:13:52STATE STARTING -- WINNING IN
2016 AND WINNING IN 2017.
00:13:59KAREN KASLER: ARE YOU IN THIS
UNTIL THE PRIMARY?
00:14:03P.G. SITTENFELD: WE ARE AND TO
REPRESENT OHIO.
00:14:09I AM RUNNING AS THE NEXT
SENATOR.
00:14:11I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE THE
MEMORY -- CONTINUING THE
00:14:15MOMENTUM.
KAREN KASLER: TED STRICKLAND'S
00:14:21CAMPAIGN WAS CONTACTED AND
OFFERED AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT
00:14:24DOWN.
I WAS TOLD IN AN E-MAIL BY HIS
00:14:29SPOKESMAN, "HE'D REALLY LIKE TO
COME ON.
00:14:31BUT IT'S SO EARLY IN THE
CAMPAIGN AND HE'S FOCUSED ON
00:14:33TALKING WITH VOTERS AND BUILDING
HIS CAMPAIGN INFRASTRUCTURE
00:14:35RIGHT NOW."
THE SPOKESMAN ALSO SAID THERE
00:14:36MIGHT BE A CHANCE TO TALK WITH
STRICKLAND LATER THIS SUMMER.
00:14:38I WILL KEEP YOU POSTED.
THE BUDGET HAS PASSED THE HOUSE
00:14:40AND NOW IS IN THE SENATE.
THEIR VERSION OF THE BUDGET HAS
00:14:42NOT COME OUT YET, BUT THERE ARE
HINTS THAT SENATORS WILL BE
00:14:44MAKING BIG CHANGES IN THE HOUSE
PACKAGE, INCLUDING POSSIBLY
00:14:47ADDING BACK IN SOME OF THE TAX
INCREASES IN THE SEVERANCE TAX
00:14:55ON OIL AND GAS DRILLERS AND ON
TOBACCO PRODUCTS THAT HOUSE
00:14:57MEMBERS STRIPPED OUT.
LAST WEEK, I TALKED WITH THE
00:14:59PROJECT DIRECTOR WHO SET UP THE
STATE'S REVAMPED OHIOMEANSJOBS
00:15:01WEBSITE, WHICH SEEKS TO CONNECT
PEOPLE LOOKING FOR WORK WITH
00:15:03COMPANIES THAT HAVE JOBS OPEN.
SIGNING UP AT THE SITE IS
00:15:07SUPPOSED TO BE A REQUIREMENT FOR
PEOPLE GETTING JOBLESS BENEFITS.
00:15:10BUT RESEARCH FROM SOCIAL SAFETY
NET ADVOCATES SHOWS NEARLY 3/4
00:15:14OF ABLE-BODIED JOBLESS PEOPLE ON
FOOD STAMPS HAVE NEVER HEARD OF
00:15:17THE SITE -- SO THERE ARE CLEARLY
STEPS TO TAKE TO CONNECT PEOPLE
00:15:22WHO NEED WORK WITH THOSE WHO
HAVE IT TO OFFER.
00:15:27IN JANUARY, BEFORE GOV. KASICH'S
BUDGET CAME OUT, I TALKED WITH
00:15:30THREE OUTSPOKEN ADVOCATES OF
VULNERABLE POPULATIONS WHO LEAN
00:15:32ON THE STATE FOR HELP.
LISA HAMLER FUGITT IS THE
00:15:36EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE OHIO
ASSOCIATION OF FOOD BANKS.
00:15:39TERRY RUSSELL IS THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL
00:15:41ALLIANCE FOR THE MENTALLY ILL OF
OHIO, ALSO KNOWN AS NAMI OHIO.
00:15:45AND JACK FRECH WAS THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF ATHENS COUNTY JOB
00:15:49AND FAMILY SERVICES -- HE
RETIRED AT THE END OF LAST YEAR.
00:15:52HE JOINED US THROUGH THE
FACILITIES OF WOUB IN ATHENS.
00:15:55THE CONVERSATION BEGAN WITH A
QUESTION TO EACH ABOUT HOW
00:15:58THINGS HAVE CHANGED FOR THE
PEOPLE THEY REPRESENT IN THE
00:16:00LAST TWO YEARS.
LISA HAMLER FUGITT: THE DEMAND
00:16:13IS UP BY MORE THAN 40%.
HALF OF THOSE ARE WORKING, THEY
00:16:19ARE WORKING IN LOW-WAGE,
PART-TIME, TEMPORARY CONTINGENT
00:16:23JOBS, TRYING TO PIECE TOGETHER
WHAT HOURS THEY CAN, BUT THEY
00:16:27STILL LIVE IN POVERTY.
THEY ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF
00:16:31WORK SUPPORT PROGRAMS, INCLUDING
MEDICAID, CHILDCARE, AND FOOD
00:16:36ASSISTANCE.
KAREN KASLER: YOU HAVE A MAP YOU
00:16:38HAVE SHARED WITH ME THAT WE WILL
SHOW HERE THAT SHOWS HOW IT IS
00:16:41CREEPING AROUND THE STATE, THIS
NEED IS GROWING.
00:16:44LISA HAMLER FUGITT: ABSOLUTELY.
WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE IN 72
00:16:49COUNTIES OF OHIOANS LIVING IN
HOUSEHOLDS AT OR BELOW 200% OF
00:17:00POVERTY LEVEL.
A PERCENTAGE DO NOT EARN A WAGE
00:17:02THAT BRINGS THEM TO A
SELF-SUFFICIENCY STANDARD.
00:17:06KAREN KASLER: JACK, YOU DEAL
WITH SOME OF THE SAME POPULATION
00:17:13THAT LISA DOES.
TELL ME ABOUT THE NEED TO HAVE
00:17:15SEEN THERE.
JACK FRECH: THIS IS A
00:17:21CONTINUATION OF THIS TREND WHERE
WE HAVE PRODUCED THE SUPPORT WE
00:17:25OFFER THROUGH THE SAFETY NET IN
TERMS OF CASH ASSISTANCE OR EVEN
00:17:28FOOD STAMPS.
SO THAT PEOPLE ARE CONSIDERABLY
00:17:32WORSE OFF NOW WITH THAN THEY
WERE THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.
00:17:34IT SEEMS THE GOVERNOR HAS MISSED
THE FACT OVER THE LAST FOUR
00:17:41YEARS THAT THEY HAVE THROWN
100,000 PEOPLE OFF CASH
00:17:43ASSISTANCE.
THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF
00:17:46THROWING THOUSANDS MORE OF WHAT
STAMPS AND THESE FAMILIES AND
00:17:50THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE NOT GONE
OUT AND GOT LIVING WAGE JOBS.
00:17:55MOST OF THEM HAVE NOT GOTTEN
JOBS AT ALL.
00:17:56THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE IN OHIO
WHO LIVE ON FOOD STAMPS WHO HAVE
00:18:00NO CASH INCOME AND ALL HAS
CONTINUED TO GROW THROUGHOUT
00:18:03THIS WHOLE TIME.
CURRENTLY OVER ONE OUT OF FIVE
00:18:09PEOPLE WHO ARE ON FOOD STAMPS
HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CASH INCOME.
00:18:11ALL THIS IS A HUGE REDUCTION IN
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY GOING TO LOW
00:18:17INCOME COMMUNITIES.
IT HAS NOT JUST BEEN THE CUTS
00:18:21THAT HAVE HAPPENED AT THE STATE
LEVEL ON CASH ASSISTANCE BUT
00:18:23DURING THIS WHOLE TIME, THERE
HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL CUTS IN THE
00:18:26FOOT STAMP PROGRAM FROM THE
FEDERAL LEVEL AND BETWEEN THE
00:18:29TWO OF THOSE, LOW INCOME
FAMILIES HAVE LOST OVER $600
00:18:33MILLION COMPARED TO WHAT THEY
USED TO RECEIVE EVEN THREE OR
00:18:36FOUR YEARS AGO.
THAT HAS BEEN A HUGE LOSS AND
00:18:41NOTHING THAT THE GOVERNOR IS
TALKING ABOUT WOULD BEGIN TO
00:18:43REPLACE THAT.
KAREN KASLER: TERRY, I WANT TO
00:18:49BRING YOU IN HERE NOW.
THERE IS SOME OVERLAP BETWEEN
00:18:51THE POPULATIONS BUT YOU ADVOCATE
FOR PEOPLE WITH MENTAL
00:18:55ILLNESSES.
TELL ME ABOUT THE COMMUNITY YOU
00:18:56DEAL WITH.
TERRY RUSSELL: MENTAL ILLNESS
00:19:01HAS BEEN A STEPCHILD BECAUSE OF
THE STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH
00:19:04ILLNESS AND THE INFORMATION THAT
IS OUT THERE.
00:19:07A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE
OTHER TWO GUESTS.
00:19:08THESE LAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN
ANY GOOD FOR MENTAL HEALTH.
00:19:13WE DEVELOPED A NUMBER OF HOUSING
OPTIONS, NUMBER OF WORK
00:19:17PROGRAMS, NOT NEARLY ENOUGH, NOT
NEARLY CLOSE.
00:19:19I HAVE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS 43
YEARS AND I CAN SAY THAT IT HAS
00:19:22BEEN THE BEST OF SOMETHING THAT
IS NOT VERY GOOD IN THE FIRST
00:19:27PLACE.
KAREN KASLER: YOU THINK HIS
00:19:32CONVERSATIONS AND BRINGING THE
MENTALLY ILL INTO THESE
00:19:34SPEECHES, HAS THAT HELPED AT
ALL, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE
00:19:36STIGMA, HOUSE -- HAS THAT HELPED
OR LOOK -- ELIMINATED THAT?
00:19:45THE HEALTH HAS ALWAYS BEEN
LOOKING DOWN UPON AND IN THE
00:19:51BACK ROOM.
BY HAVING LEADERSHIP TALK ABOUT
00:19:53IT, THE MEDICAID EXPANSION WAS
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR THOSE
00:19:59WITH MENTAL ILLNESSES,
ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE FAIRLY
00:20:01HIGH FUNCTIONING BECAUSE IN THE
JOBS THAT THEY COULD GET, THEY
00:20:04WOULD LOSE THEM MANY TIMES
BECAUSE OF LACK OF HEALTH
00:20:09INSURANCE, NOT BEING ABLE TO GET
THEIR TREATMENT.
00:20:10TREATMENT WORKS IF IT IS
AVAILABLE.
00:20:13NOW THEY CAN WORK AND STILL GET
THEIR HEALTH CARE NEEDS MET AND
00:20:18CONTINUE TO WORK.
I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND, WE
00:20:20HEAR EVERYBODY TALKING ABOUT
DENTURES -- CONSERVATISM, THAT
00:20:24IS FINE.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CONSERVATISM
00:20:29IS USUALLY HEAR ABOUT WORK AND
BEING ABLE TO BE PART OF THE
00:20:31SOCIETY AND BECAUSE OF MEDICAID
EXPANSION, WE HAVE MANY
00:20:38THOUSANDS OF INDIVIDUALS IS
ILLNESSES -- INDIVIDUALS WITH
00:20:43ILLNESSES WORKING.
KAREN KASLER: WHAT IF MEDICAID
00:20:48EXPANSION IS NOT CONTINUED?
LISA HAMLER FUGITT: I CANNOT
00:20:53COMPREHEND THAT THIS LEGISLATION
WOULD REMOVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
00:20:59CONNECT PEOPLE TO ACCESS FOR
HEALTH CARE, MANY FOR THE FIRST
00:21:05TIME IN THEIR LIVES WHEN IT IS
100% FEDERALLY FUNDED.
00:21:08WE KNEW THAT FOR THREE YEARS
THAT THOSE WHO WOULD COME IN AND
00:21:11RECEIVE MEDICAID THROUGH THE
EXPANDED ELIGIBILITY OF THE
00:21:14AFFORDABLE CARE ACT NEEDED TO BE
CONNECTED TO A HEALTH CARE HOME.
00:21:17THERE ILLNESS IS TREATED AND
THEY ARE ON A HALF THE WELLNESS
00:21:22THAT THEY COULD BECOME
PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY
00:21:27AND WE ADVOCATE THAT.
THE BIGGER ISSUES WE NEED TO
00:21:30HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IS THE
MEDICAID ROLLS ARE GROWING
00:21:33BECAUSE THE JOBS THAT ARE THERE
EITHER CANNOT OR WILL NOT
00:21:35PROVIDE EMPLOYER-PROVIDED HEALTH
CARE COVERAGE.
00:21:40THERE IS AN INHERENT SHIFTING
FROM AN EMPLOYER TYPE
00:21:42RESPONSIBILITY ONTO GOVERNMENT.
SO AGAIN, THERE IS LATER NEED
00:21:46THAN EVER BEFORE BUT WHAT WE SEE
IS AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS
00:21:54WORTH A POUND OF CURE AND ON
THIS ONE, WE NEED TO CONTINUE,
00:21:57IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
IT IS THE HUMANE THING TO DO.
00:21:59KAREN KASLER: JACK, WHAT DO YOU
THINK IS THE FUTURE OF MEDICAID
00:22:05EXPANSION AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
IT IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE, IF IT
00:22:08GOES AWAY?
JACK FRECH: I WOULD LIKE TO
00:22:12THINK THAT THE LEGISLATURE WOULD
NOT BE SO FULL ISSUE IN THE END
00:22:14AS TO DO -- FOOLISH IN THE END
AS TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE
00:22:19SO HARMFUL IN SUMMIT -- TOO
SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE STATE.
00:22:26THERE IS DISCUSSION ABOUT ADDING
WORK REQUIREMENTS AND IT IS CAST
00:22:31IN TERMS OF WE WOULD LIKE TO
HAVE THESE PEOPLE GET OFF
00:22:33MEDICAID NOT BE POOR.
WE WOULD ALL LIKE THAT.
00:22:39THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN DOING
THIS FOR OUR WHOLE LIVES KNOW IT
00:22:41IS NOT JUST THAT SIMPLE AS
SAYING WE WISH THEY COULD GET
00:22:43OFF.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS
00:22:44CAPABLE OF TAKING A LIVING WAGE
JOB THAT IS AVAILABLE.
00:22:48AND THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT I
THINK THEY SHOULD BE WORKING
00:22:50HARDER ON IS HOW DO WE CREATE
LIVING WAGE JOBS RATHER THAN
00:22:55MAKING OUR GOAL JUST TO THROW
PEOPLE OF MEDICAID BECAUSE IF
00:23:00THEY APPLY THOSE SAME STANDARDS
TO THE MEDICAID PROGRAM AS THEY
00:23:04HAVE DONE TO THE CASH ASSISTANCE
PROGRAM, THEY WILL BE THROWING
00:23:06PEOPLE OFF.
THEY WILL SIMPLY BE REDUCING OF
00:23:12THE NATIONS WITHOUT ENSURING
THAT THOSE FAMILIES, THOSE
00:23:15INDIVIDUALS ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT
THEMSELVES.
00:23:17THAT IS WHAT I AM FEARFUL OF.
THEY WILL TAKE THE SAME MISTAKE
00:23:20THEY HAVE MADE WITH CASH
ASSISTANCE AND APPLY THAT TO
00:23:22MEDICAID.
THE TWO ARE SO CLOSELY TIED
00:23:25TOGETHER AND THAT THERE ARE NO
HEALTH CARE TREATMENTS, THERE
00:23:29ARE NO MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENTS,
SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT,
00:23:36EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, NONE OF
THOSE WORK FOR PEOPLE WHO IS
00:23:38BASIC NEEDS ARE NOT BEING MET.
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH TO
00:23:41EIGHT, IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A
DECENT PLACE TO LIVE, THOSE
00:23:44PROGRAMS, THOSE INTERVENTIONS
ARE NOT GOING TO WORK.
00:23:45ALL OF OUR EFFORTS TO TRAIN
THESE FOLKS ARE GET THEM CURED
00:23:53OF THEIR MENTAL HEALTH OR
SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEMS ARE
00:23:56ONLY GOING TO WORK FOR FAMILIES
OR INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE THEIR
00:23:59BASIC NEEDS MET IN THE FIRST
PLACE AND WE SEEM TO HAVE
00:24:01TOTALLY GIVEN UP ON THAT AS A
GOAL.
00:24:02KAREN KASLER: TERRY, YOU TALKED
A LOT ABOUT MEDICAID EXPANSION
00:24:08BUT IS THERE SOMETHING YOU WANT
TO MENTION FOR THE POPULATION
00:24:10YOU SERVE?
TERRY RUSSELL: ABSOLUTELY.
00:24:15IF YOU SUFFER FROM A BRAIN
ILLNESS CALLED SCHIZOPHRENIA,
00:24:19YOU DIED 25 -- YOU DIED 25 YEARS
EARLIER.
00:24:25KAREN KASLER: THAT WAS FACT
CHECK.
00:24:28TERRY RUSSELL: THEY DO NOT DIE
FROM SCHIZOPHRENIA.
00:24:33THE DIE FROM NEGLECT OF HEALTH
ISSUES THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO GET
00:24:38BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE
MEDICAID, MEDICAID EXPANSION.
00:24:40THE BIG ONE, CONSERVATIVES AT
THE LEGISLATURE NEED TO
00:24:47UNDERSTAND, HAVING MEDICAID
EXPANSION FOR THOSE ON THE
00:24:54FUNCTIONING LEVEL, THEY CAN WORK
AND CONTINUE TO WORK.
00:24:57WITHOUT MEDICAID EXPANSION, WE
HAVE MORE PEOPLE NOT WORKING,
00:25:01MORE PEOPLE RECEIVING EVERYTHING
THAT LISA PROVIDES AND EVERY
00:25:07THING THAT JACK IS TALKING
ABOUT, IT IS SAVING MONEY.
00:25:08I AM PLAYING TO THE CONSERVATIVE
PART OF THE LEGISLATURE.
00:25:12YOU ARE SAVING MONEY AND IF THAT
IS WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO DO, I
00:25:17CANNOT BELIEVE IT IS GOING TO
HAPPEN IN MY LIFETIME.
00:25:19LISA HAMLER FUGITT: WHAT WE HAVE
SEEN HERE IS MEDICAID EXPANSION
00:25:28HAS BEEN A LIFELINE.
IT HAS BEEN A WORK SUPPORT
00:25:29PROGRAM, JUST LIKE FOOD STAMPS,
JUST LIKE CHILDCARE IS, AND IT
00:25:38IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR ALL
OHIOANS SO NO ONE WILL BE LEFT
00:25:40LIVING IN THE SHADOWS.
KAREN KASLER: SENATE PRESIDENT
00:25:47KEITH FABER HAS SAID IT IS HIS
GOAL FOR SENATORS TO VOTE ON
00:25:50THEIR VERSION OF THE BUDGET
SOMETIME IN MID-JUNE, SO THERE
00:25:52WILL BE TIME FOR A CONFERENCE
COMMITTEE TO WORK OUT
00:25:54DIFFERENCES BEFORE THE FISCAL
YEAR ENDS ON JUNE 30.
00:25:56AND THAT IS IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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