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00:00:00>> WELCOME.
GOOD MORNING.
00:00:04I WANT TO THANK MY JOINT SPONSOR
.
00:00:09HE IS GOING TO INTRODUCE THE
GUESTS WITH ME BEHIND US.
00:00:13WHAT WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT
IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
00:00:19I AM GOING TO COVER THE BROAD
POINTS.
00:00:22I WANT THE GUESTS BEHIND ME TO
GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS AS TO WHY
00:00:26THIS IS SO IMPORTANT.
HOUSE BILL 362 CHANGES THE
00:00:31REVISED CODE TO ADDRESS THE NEED
FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENCES
00:00:33INVOLVING STRANGULATION TO BE
CLASSIFIED AS A FELONY.
00:00:36WHILE ALL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
CASES DESERVE OUR ATTENTION,
00:00:42STRANGULATION IS A KNOWN
INDICATOR FOR INCREASED RISK OF
00:00:43HOMICIDE.
THOSE WHO HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN
00:00:47IN A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DISPUTE
INVOLVING'S REGULATION ARE SEVEN
00:00:53TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BECOME
VICTIMS OF HOMICIDE IN ANY
00:00:56FUTURE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES.
THE PERPETRATORS OF THESE CRIMES
00:01:02NEED TO KNOW THEY ARE NOT GOING
TO KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THEIR
00:01:04ABUSE.
THE TIME TO ACT IS NOW TO ENSURE
00:01:08THAT NO ADDITIONAL WOMEN BECOME
VICTIMS BEFORE WE FAIL TO ACT.
00:01:1038 STATES CURRENTLY HAVE THIS
LEGISLATION.
00:01:13I AM DETERMINED TO ENSURE OHIO
IS GOING TO BE THE 39TH STATE.
00:01:17OUR GOAL IS TO SAVE WOMEN IN
THIS FORMIDABLE SITUATION --
00:01:23VULNERABLE SITUATION.
WE WANT TO CONNECT THEM TO
00:01:27RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO ENSURE
THEY BECOME SURVIVORS AND NOT
00:01:29VICTIMS.
AS A PERSONAL NOTE, I AM THE
00:01:32MOTHER OF TWO DAUGHTERS.
I THINK IT IS EVERY PARENT'S
00:01:36HOPE AND DREAM THAT THEIR CHILD
WILL GROW UP AND HAVE A LOVING
00:01:39RELATIONSHIP.
WE DON'T WANT ANY OTHER FAMILIES
00:01:44TO ENDURE HEARTBREAK FROM THESE
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATIONS,
00:01:49ESPECIALLY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE
PREVENTABLE.
00:01:50I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE
REPRESENTATIVE TO INTRODUCE THE
00:01:55REST OF THE GUESTS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
00:01:58>> THANK YOU.
I REALLY APPRECIATE HER EFFORTS
00:02:02IN THIS BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
00:02:07YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM THE
SISTERS OF AN INDIVIDUAL THAT
00:02:14UNFORTUNATELY HAD A
STRANGULATION INCIDENT AND
00:02:17SUBSEQUENT HOMICIDE.
ALSO FOR MESSING WITH THE OHIO
00:02:24DOMESTIC ABUSE NETWORK, AND ANNE
MURRAY WHO WORKS AT THE
00:02:28ATTORNEYS OFFICE IN THE DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE AND STOCKING -- STA
00:02:32LKING UNIT DIVISION.
THE NEED FOR THIS LEGISLATION IS
00:02:39URGENT AND IDENTIFIABLE.
LAST YEAR, SHE DIED AT THE HANDS
00:02:44OF HER HUSBAND, ONLY NINE MONTHS
AFTER HE SPENT JUST 11 DAYS IN
00:02:48JAIL FOR STRANGLING HER UNTIL
SHE WAS DIZZY AND UNABLE TO CALL
00:02:51FOR HELP.
WHERE OHIO IS SHORT IN OUR
00:02:54LEGISLATION, STRANGULATION IS
TREATED AS A MISDEMEANOR.
00:02:58HOUSE BILL 362 WOULD INCREASE
THE PENALTY FOR ELATION IN A DOC
00:03:04VIOLENCE SITUATION TO A THIRD
DEGREE FELONY, TYPICALLY A
00:03:08THIRD-DEGREE FELONY WOULD BE ON
AVERAGE THREE YEARS IN JAIL BUT
00:03:11COULD BE FROM NINE MONTHS TO
FIVE YEARS.
00:03:12OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP THE ABUSER A
WAY SO THAT THE INDIVIDUAL CAN
00:03:18GET THE HELP AND SAFETY THEY
NEED.
00:03:2033 STATES HAVE HAD THIS
LEGISLATION IN PLACE, IT'S SHOWN
00:03:29TO BE A TRUE DECREASE IN
DOMESTIC, SIDE CASES.
00:03:31IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE, BUT WE ARE
DEFINITELY BEHIND IN TERMS OF
00:03:36WHAT WE ARE DOING IS A STATE,
AND IT'S TIME FOR OHIO'S LAWS TO
00:03:39BE REFLECTIVE AND PROTECT THESE
VICTIMS ARE IT WE APPRECIATE THE
00:03:41OPPORTUNITY OF USING DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH SO WE
00:03:50CAN HELP THOSE WHO ARE ABUSED
HAVE A VOICE.
00:03:53I WOULD LIKE INTRODUCE A NEW
EVER AND NICOLE MILLER -- AMY
00:03:59WEBER.
AMY: WE ARE APPRECIATED -- WE
00:04:09ARE APPRECIATIVE OF BEING HERE
TODAY.
00:04:10OUR SISTER MONICA, ON JANUARY
31, 2014 WAS STRANGLED BY HER
00:04:15HUSBAND UNTIL SHE WAS DIZZY.
HER 12-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER
00:04:20DISRUPTED THE ATTACK AND CALLED
911, AND HE ONLY DID 11 DAYS
00:04:28IN JAIL.
NINE MONTHS LATER, HE STABBED
00:04:34MONICA 28 TIMES SHE WAS SLEEPING
IN HER CINCINNATI HOME, AND SHE
00:04:36DIED ON NOVEMBER 9, 2014.
SHE WAS 36 YEARS OLD, SHE LEFT
00:04:44FIVE CHILDREN BEHIND.
WE ARE VERY DETERMINED TO SEE
00:04:48THIS LEGISLATION PASSED.
WE SPENT THE LAST YEAR SPREADING
00:04:52AWARENESS THROUGH THE PETITION
WE SET UP, AND WE ARE VERY
00:04:57HONORED AND APPRECIATIVE THAT WE
ARE ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY TO
00:05:04HONOR MONICA AND HELP SAVE OTHER
WOMEN'S LIVES.
00:05:05THANK YOU.
NICOLE: I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE
00:05:12WHO MADE THIS POSSIBILITY.
IT'S THIS TIME OF YEAR -- IT'S
00:05:17BEEN ROUGH FOR OUR FAMILY.
BECAUSE LAST WEEK WAS THE
00:05:22ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF HER
ATTACK.
00:05:23OUR SISTER SURVIVED 32 DAYS IN
SURGICAL ICU UNIT, AND RECEIVED
00:05:31RECORD AMOUNTS OF BLOOD IN
ATTEMPTS TO TRY AND SAVE HER
00:05:35LIFE.
IT WAS THE HEARTED MONTH ANY OF
00:05:39US COULD HAVE EVER GONE THROUGH.
WITHOUT SEEING HER AND SEEING
00:05:45HER SMILE AND BE COHERENT AND
AWAKE, PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THOSE
00:05:5032 DAYS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE
WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE
00:05:56ON WITHOUT THAT LITTLE BIT OF
VALIDATION.
00:05:57I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE, AND I
KNOW THE PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON
00:06:04GETTING THIS IN MOTION BEFORE WE
EVEN CAME ALONG.
00:06:07I'M THANKFUL THAT WE COULD BE A
PART OF IT.
00:06:10>> GOOD MORNING.
I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY
00:06:22TO TAKE -- THINK THESE
LEGISLATORS FOR GETTING THIS
00:06:27LEGISLATION ON.
WE HAVE IN WORKING WITH PEOPLE
00:06:30ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND THERE
ARE 38 STATES THAT ALREADY HAVE
00:06:36SIMILAR LEGISLATION.
IT'S WORKED VERY WELL.
00:06:37I WANT TO BE ABLE TO STAND HERE
ONE DAY AND NOT HAVE TO HAVE
00:06:44LEGISLATION BECAUSE OF WHAT
HAPPENED TO A VICTIM.
00:06:45I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY NO MORE
AND MEAN IT.
00:06:47I THINK IT IS TIME THAT WE STOP
LOSING VICTIMS TO DOMESTIC
00:06:52VIOLENCE.
WE JUST HAVE TO STOP IT.
00:06:54I THINK THIS LEGISLATION IS A
GREAT WAY OF DOING THAT.
00:06:57NOT ONLY ARE WE TAKING STRENGTH
ELATION -- STRANGULATION MORE
00:07:05SERIOUSLY.
IT WILL BE TIME FOR US TO DO
00:07:08TRAINING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS SO THEY START ASKING
00:07:14ABOUT STRANGULATION.
WE KNOW IT CAN RESULT IN
00:07:18HOMICIDE, BUT IT CAN ALSO RESULT
IN VERY SEVERE INJURIES.
00:07:22SOMETIMES THAT ARE PRESENT AT
THE SCENE.
00:07:24THE OTHER THING WE HAVE TO BE
ABLE TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT
00:07:27WOMEN GET THE MEDICAL HELP THEY
NEED IMMEDIATELY, AS WELL AS THE
00:07:30LEGAL HELPING NEED IMMEDIATELY.
I CAN'T SAY STRONGLY ENOUGH HOW
00:07:36DANGEROUS, HOW VERY DANGEROUS
STRENGTH ELATION --
00:07:39STRANGULATION IS.
THESE TO BE LOOKED AT AS A
00:07:46FACTOR IN THESE CASES OF THE
MYSTIC VIOLENCE.
00:07:47I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF
PEOPLE WHO CAN TALK ABOUT THE
00:07:50LEGAL SIDE AND THE MEDICAL SIDE,
I WANT TO GIVE THEM AN
00:07:53OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
>> I'M VERY EXCITED THAT TODAY
00:07:58HAS COME.
AWARENESS OF STRANGULATION AS A
00:08:06FORENSIC NURSE, I HAVE BEEN
FOLLOWING THE RESEARCH THAT HAS
00:08:11COME OUT OVER THE LAST 14 YEARS
ON NONFATAL STRANGULATION.
00:08:14WOMEN THAT SURVIVES REGULATION
INJURIES.
00:08:17THERE'S A GROWING BODY OF
RESEARCH THAT SHOWS
00:08:24STRANGULATION HAS A LETHAL FORM
OF VIOLENCE.
00:08:26THE HEALTH CONSEQUENCES MAY BE
ONLY TEMPORARY, BUT MANY TIMES,
00:08:32THEIR PERMANENT AND LIFELONG.
WOMEN CAN DIE UP TO THREE DAYS
00:08:37LATER WITH NO EXTERNAL TRAUMA.
THE INTERNAL INJURIES ARE
00:08:43LIFE-THREATENING, THERE ARE
MANY.
00:08:45ONLY 10 SECONDS WITH COMPRESSION
ON THE NECK, WITH SOMEONE'S HAND
00:08:51OR NEED OR EVEN A T-SHIRT
CONSTRICTING THE NECK.
00:08:55THAT CAN CAUSE UNCONSCIOUSNESS.
MINUTES TO DEATH, AND VICTIMS
00:09:05CAN DIE UP TO THREE DAYS LATER
EVEN WEEKS LATER.
00:09:06WITH NOTIONAL,.
-- WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE
00:09:16BRAIN INJURIES THAT MAY CAUSE
LIGHT HEADED HER'S BASH
00:09:22LIGHTHEADEDNESS OR DIZZINESS.
IT MAY ALSO CAUSE
00:09:24UNCONSCIOUSNESS AND PERMANENT
BRAIN INJURY OF MANY DIFFERENT
00:09:26TYPES.
WE HAVE CASE STUDIES OF WOMEN IN
00:09:33THEIR 30'S AND 40'S WITH NO
MEDICAL HISTORY OF ANY KIND OF
00:09:37HEART DISEASE OR VASCULAR
DISEASE THAT HAVE HAD STROKES
00:09:39THREE MONTHS TO A YEAR FOLLOWING
A STRANGULATION INCIDENT.
00:09:42THE ONLY THING THEY COULD FIGURE
OUT THAT MIGHT'VE HAPPENED TO
00:09:48CAUSE THE STROKE WAS A PREVIOUS
STRANGULATION INJURY.
00:09:51WHEN YOU CLOSE OFF THE AIRWAYS
DURING STRANGULATION, YOU CAN
00:09:58CAUSE DEATH IMMEDIATELY.
HOWEVER, EVEN IF IT DOES NOT
00:10:02CAUSE IMMEDIATE DEATH, THAT
AIRWAY CAN SWELL.
00:10:04THE AIRWAY IS ONLY ONE INCH IN
DIAMETER.
00:10:06THAT SWELLS FROM THE TRAUMA OVER
THE NEXT MINUTES TO HOURS TO
00:10:12DAYS.
THE AIRWAY CAN CLOSE OFF.
00:10:14PERMANENT DAMAGE OUR DIFFICULTY
SWALLOWING AND BREATHING FOR THE
00:10:20REST OF ONE'S LIFE.
STRANGULATION IS THE ULTIMATE
00:10:24FORM OF POWER AND CONTROL.
ONE DOES NOT NEED TO HAVE A GUN,
00:10:30ONE ONLY NEEDS TO REACH OUT HIS
HAND, AND HE CONTROLS ARE VERY
00:10:36NEXT BREATH.
AND THE VICTIM KNOWS IT.
00:10:37OUR MILITARY IS TRAINED ON
STRANGULATION, THE TECHNIQUE OF
00:10:44STRANGULATION AS A LETHAL FORM
OF CLOSE COMBAT.
00:10:48AND YET, WOMEN ARE STRANGLED
EVERY DAY.
00:10:51AND OUR LEGAL SYSTEM AND MEDICAL
SYSTEM TREATED AS A MINOR INJURY
00:10:57OR A SLAP IN THE FACE.
CAGE FIGHTERS, THEY FIGHT FOR A
00:11:03LIVING.
AND YET WHEN CAGE FIGHTERS ARE
00:11:06PUT IN A CHOKE HOLD, THEY TAP
OUT IMMEDIATELY.
00:11:09THEY KNOW THE FIGHT IS OVER.
WHEN A WOMAN IS STRANGLED ONE
00:11:19TIME BY HER PARTNER, HER CHANCES
OF HIM TELLING HER INCREASED
00:11:22700%.
AND WE NEED UNDERSTAND THIS.
00:11:25WHEN HEALTH CARE AND LEGAL
PROFESSIONALS ARE TRAINED AND
00:11:33UNDERSTAND THE SEVERE INJURIES
CAUSED BY STRANGULATION, AND
00:11:35THAT IS A LETHAL FORM OF
VIOLENCE, THEN WE WILL REACH A
00:11:40TIPPING POINT, WHERE OUR WOMEN
AND CHILDREN WILL BE PROTECTED.
00:11:43AND WE WILL HOLD ABUSERS
ACCOUNTABLE.
00:11:46AN ABUSER ONLY GETS AN OVERNIGHT
IN JAIL FOR A MISDEMEANOR DOES
00:11:53NOT, REFORMED.
VICTIMS READ THE PAPER, AND THEY
00:11:59UNDERSTAND THIS IS WHAT HE WILL
KILL HER, AND SHE DOESN'T HAVE
00:12:01TIME IN 24 HOURS TO GET SAFE.
BUT AS A FELONY CHARGE, OUR
00:12:07WOMEN WILL HAVE MORE TIME TO AT
LEAST GET HEARD -- GET HER AND
00:12:12HER CHILDREN SAFE, AND GET HELP.
IN TURN, WE WILL IMPROVE THE
00:12:16HEALTH AND SAFETY OF ALL OF OUR
COMMUNITIES.
00:12:18I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
REPRESENTATIVES TAKING THE BOLD
00:12:24APPROACH TO THIS, AND
INTRODUCING THIS LEGISLATION.
00:12:27THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING.
00:12:33MY NAME IS ANDY MURRAY --ANNE
MURRAY WITH THE STALKING UNIT OF
00:12:40CITY OF COLUMBUS.
MY JOB AS A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
00:12:44PROSECUTOR IS TO PROSECUTE
MISDEMEANOR OFFENSES, PUNISHABLE
00:12:47BY SIX MONTHS IN JAIL AND UNDER.
IN MOST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
00:12:53OFFENSES, THEY ARE MISDEMEANOR
OFFENSES.
00:12:54I THINK WE PROBABLY ALL LEARNED
A LITTLE FROM HEARING FROM RUTH
00:12:59ABOUT THE MEDICAL SIDE OF
STRANGULATION.
00:13:00I CAN TELL YOU IN THE BEGINNING
OF MY CAREER, I TREATED
00:13:03STRANGULATION VICTIMS AND CASES
POORLY.
00:13:04BECAUSE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT.
I, LIKE MANY EVIL FIGURED IF
00:13:10THERE WERE NOT VISIBLE INJURIES,
THEN THERE WAS NO HARM.
00:13:13OR NOT SIGNIFICANT HARM.
I GOT TRAINING EARLY IN MY
00:13:18CAREER, THINK GOODNESS, AND
REALIZED THAT I WAS LEAVING
00:13:22VICTIMS IN JEOPARDY.
I KNEW FROM MY EXPERIENCE BEING
00:13:29SOMEBODY WHO CARE DEEPLY ABOUT
HELPING VICTIMS AND STILL DOING
00:13:31SUCH WRONG THAT THIS ISN'T AN
ISSUE THAT COMES NATURALLY.
00:13:35IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL NEED
TO LEARN ABOUT.
00:13:37IT IS SOMETHING THAT THOSE OF US
IN THE LEGAL PROFESSION REALLY
00:13:41MUST LEARN THE MEDICAL SIDE OF
IT TO SEE THE LEVEL OF DANGER.
00:13:44AND THAT REALLY, THERE CAN BE
SIGNIFICANT HARM WITHOUT ANY
00:13:49EXTERNAL INJURIES.
WE THEN NEED TO LOOK ELSEWHERE,
00:13:54TO WHAT DOES THE VICTIM SOUND
LIKE, WHAT WERE THE
00:13:56CIRCUMSTANCES, DOES IT APPEAR
THAT THE VICTIM WAS RENDERED
00:13:58UNCONSCIOUS?
ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT -- IF
00:14:02THERE'S A BLACK GUY, A BROKEN
ARM, IF THERE ARE OTHER INJURIES
00:14:05THAT ARE INVISIBLE, IT'S MUCH
MORE INTUITIVE FOR THOSE OF US
00:14:10IN THE LEGAL PROFESSION, WHERE
STRANGULATION INJURIES ARE NOT.
00:14:12I APPLAUD THE REPRESENTATIVES
FOR REALLY TAKING THIS TO THE
00:14:18NEXT LEVEL, BECAUSE WHAT WE KNOW
FROM RUTH AND OTHER
00:14:22PROFESSIONALS IS THAT
STRANGULATION IS POTENTIALLY
00:14:25LETHAL HARM THAT DESERVES TO BE
TREATED NOT JUST AS A
00:14:30MISDEMEANOR, BUT ACTUALLY IS A
FELONY AND A SERIOUS PHYSICAL
00:14:31HARM WITH POTENTIAL SERIOUS
CONSEQUENCES.
00:14:34THANK YOU.
REP. KUNZE: WITH THAT, WE
00:14:46WELCOME QUESTIONS, BUT OTHERWISE
THAT CONCLUDES OUR INFORMATION
00:14:47TODAY.
>> IF TWO MEN AND TWO WOMEN GET
00:14:49INTO A FIGHT, AND THEY ARE PUT
IN A CHOKE HOLD, DOES THAT
00:14:55IMPACT THEM AS WELL?
OR IS SPECIFICALLY WRITTEN TO
00:14:59ADDRESS A MISSING VIOLENCE?
REP. STINZIANO: STRANGULATION IS
00:15:15STRANGULATION, IT DOESN'T
NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE BETWEEN
00:15:17DOMESTIC PARTNERS.
AS A SERIOUS CRIME RECORDS OF
00:15:19WHO IS DOING IT.
WE ARE ABOUT STRANGULATION, NOT
00:15:22TALKING ABOUT CHOKING.
WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.
00:15:24CHOKING IS SOMETHING YOU DO ON A
PIECE OF FOOD.
00:15:29THAT'S WHAT CHOKING IS.
YOU CHOKE ON A PIECE OF FOOD.
00:15:34STRANGULATION IS WHEN SOMEONE
ATTEMPTS TO BLOCK OFF YOUR
00:15:36AIRWAYS WITH THEIR HANDS, WITH
SOME OTHER PART OF THEIR BODY,
00:15:40WITH SOME OTHER TYPE OF THING.
>> YOU MENTIONED THAT
00:15:46[INAUDIBLE]
>> WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER STATES
00:15:54AS WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE BEING
PROSECUTED FOR FELONIES.
00:15:55I THINK THAT'S THE BIG THING.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'VE
00:15:59ALSO SEEN A CHANGE IN HOW THE
CIRCUMSTANCES ARE LOOKED AT MY
00:16:02LAW ENFORCEMENT AT THE
BEGINNING, THE ARRIVAL OF THE
00:16:08SCENE, THEY STARTED TO LOOK FOR
SIGNS OF STRANGULATION OR ASK
00:16:10ABOUT STRANGULATION.
WE HAVE SEEN VICTIMS GETTING
00:16:12BETTER MEDICAL ATTENTION, HAVING
THESE TYPES OF INJURIES
00:16:15DOCUMENTED SO PROSECUTORS CAN
MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE KINDS OF
00:16:19CHARGES.
EDUCATION IS KEY AS PART OF
00:16:22THIS.
IT'S NOT -- PASSING THIS
00:16:26LEGISLATION IS IN SORT OF A
MIRACLE.
00:16:27YOU HAVE TO DO THE WORK
AFTERWARDS IN ORDER TO
00:16:30IMPLEMENTED RAPIDLY.
THAT INVOLVES LAW ENFORCEMENT,
00:16:33PROSECUTORS, MEDICAL PERSONNEL.
A VICTIM MAY COME INTO A
00:16:39DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AGENCY, AND
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
00:16:43ADVOCATES NEED TO BE ASKING
ABOUT AS WELL.
00:16:44IT'S REALLY SORT OF CHANGING THE
SYSTEM SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND
00:16:50HOW VERY SERIOUS THIS CRIME IS.
>> HOW COMMON IS STRANGULATION?
00:16:58>> THEY SAY ABOUT 10% IS WHAT WE
ARE HEARING FROM THE RESEARCH.
00:17:02AGAIN, THAT'S REPORTED.
SO PROBABLY IS GOING TO BE
00:17:06HIGHER THAN THAT.
WHAT WE KNOW FROM THE RESEARCH
00:17:10IS ABOUT 10% ON AVERAGE
EXPERIENCE SOME SORT OF
00:17:13STRANGULATION.
I WAS SUSPECTED HIGHER THAN THAT
00:17:15JUST BECAUSE OF COURSE, IT'S SO
UNDERREPORTED AND PEOPLE HAVEN'T
00:17:20ASKED ABOUT IT WITH ANY
REGULARITY.
00:17:21>> IN MY CASES, AFTER I GOT THE
EDUCATION ABOUT STRANGULATION, I
00:17:32WENT BACK TO MY OWN DOCKET I WAS
ASKING ABOUT 600 DV'S A YEAR.
00:17:36ABOUT 40% INVOLVED ALLEGATIONS
OF STRAGGLERS IN.
00:17:40I WAS NOT TREATING THEM ENOUGH.
IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT
00:17:44COULD THOSE WHO GET INTO A FIGHT
THE CHARGE WAS REGULATION,
00:17:48POTENTIALLY.
WE HAVE MANY SITUATIONS WHERE
00:17:52ASSAULT IS KNOWINGLY CAUSING
ANOTHER PHYSICAL HARM.
00:17:53I COULD WALK BY YOU AND BRUSH
YOU ON THE SHOULDER JUST AS A
00:17:58HAY OR WHATEVER, AND OSTENSIBLY,
THAT COULD BE AN ASSAULT.
00:18:03NOT EVERYONE WILL GET CHARGED.
IT'S ALL A MATTER OF USING THE
00:18:06LEAST DISCRETION TO THE EXTENT
THEY ARE ABLE TO, BUT THIS WILL
00:18:10GIVE ANOTHER TOOL FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE
00:18:12TO PROSECUTE SITUATIONS THAT
DESPERATELY NEED TO BE.
00:18:14>> IS THERE A MINIMUM
PUNISHMENT?
00:18:20>> NO.
THERE IS NO SPECIFICATION.
00:18:25>> CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY
[INAUDIBLE]
00:18:30WHY YOU NEED THIS?
WEDNESDAYS TO BE AVAILABLE TO
00:18:38YOU NOW?
>> THE QUESTION IS WHY SHOULD
00:18:45FLURRIES US ALL NOT BE ENOUGH,
AND THAT IS KNOWINGLY CAUSE
00:18:48ANOTHER SERIOUS PHYSICAL HARM
OF.
00:18:49THE ISSUE REALLY IS EDUCATION.
THAT MOST OF US DON'T RECOGNIZE
00:18:53STRANGULATION HAS SERIOUS
PHYSICAL HARM IF WE ARE NOT
00:18:56EDUCATED ENOUGH TO LOOK FOR THE
SIGNS AND GET THE REPORTS AND DO
00:18:58THE FOLLOW-UP AND ASKED THE
QUESTIONS.
00:19:01A LOT OF VICTIMS DON'T KNOW THEY
HAVE BEEN RENDERED UNCONSCIOUS.
00:19:05IT WILL BE A LAPSE IN TIME WHEN
THEY ARE REPORTING THE
00:19:09INCIDENTS.
THAT COULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO A
00:19:10NUMBER OF THINGS, SUCH AS
INTOXICATION OR THAT THEY ARE
00:19:16FLAKY.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK STRAIGHT
00:19:20ELATION GET REFERRED TO AT --
STRANGULATION VICTIMS GET
00:19:23REFERRED TO AS THIRD WHEN LAW
ENFORCEMENT ARE PROSECUTORS ARE
00:19:27BETTER EDUCATED -- THE QUESTION,
WE REALIZE THE SERIOUSNESS OF
00:19:32THIS INCIDENT.
IT IS NOT JUST A SLAP.
00:19:35THAT LEAVES EXTERNAL INJURIES.
THERE COULD BE INTERNAL INJURIES
00:19:41THAT ARE ONLY EVIDENCED AFTER A
DEEPER INVESTIGATION.
00:19:44DOES THAT ANSWER QUESTION?
HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.
00:19:48IF I AM LAW ENFORCEMENT AND I
DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
00:19:53STRANGULATION, I'M NOT GOING TO
NECESSARILY SEE A GOOD PORTION
00:19:57OF THEM.
AT LEAST HALF, MAYBE 80%, AS
00:19:59SERIOUSLY PHYSICAL HARM.
I WOULD FILE IT AS AN M1 DV, OR
00:20:04POTENTIALLY NOT FILE AND JUST
REFERRED TO THE PROSECUTOR'S
00:20:07OFFICE FOR A MISDEMEANOR.
IF I HAVE BEEN EDUCATED, THEN
00:20:11WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS ASK THE
QUESTIONS, THEN I'M GOING TO BE
00:20:14ABLE TO GET THE EVIDENCE OF
SERIOUSLY PHYSICAL HARM.
00:20:16IT REALLY IS A QUESTION OF
KNOWING WHAT A SERIOUS PHYSICAL
00:20:21HARM AND THAT STRANGULATION
ACTUALLY IS SERIOUS PHYSICAL
00:20:24HARM.
THE STATUTE CALLING IT OUT
00:20:26REALLY DOES WHEN NANCY SAID, IT
DRAWS ATTENTION TO IT.
00:20:29IT HAS IS ASKING QUESTIONS, HE
GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO
00:20:35TRAIN PROSECUTORS AND LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND MEDICAL
00:20:37PERSONNEL, FRANKLY.
MANY OF THEM ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH
00:20:40HOW DANGEROUS THIS IS IN
RELATION TO SUBSEQUENT
00:20:44TREATMENTS.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
00:20:50>> IF SOMEBODY WERE ABLE TO
PROVE THIS WERE SERIOUS PHYSICAL
00:20:55HARM, WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT
THIS BILL IS IT SAYS THAT THE
00:21:00PROSECUTOR DOESN'T HAVE TO PROVE
THAT AT THE TIME.
00:21:01MOST OF THE TIME, THE PROSECUTOR
IS GOING TO GET A MEDICAL EXPERT
00:21:07TO HELP EXPLAIN STRANGULATION.
AS MOST OF US HAVE PROBABLY
00:21:13LEARNED A LOT TODAY ABOUT
STRANGULATION THAT WE DIDN'T
00:21:14KNOW BEFORE, MOST JURORS ARE NOT
GOING TO KNOW THIS.
00:21:16SO WITH THIS REGULATION STATUTE
ALLOWS IS -- IF THE MECHANICS OF
00:21:23STRANGULATION ARE THERE, THEN WE
GO INTO THE CHARGE, AND SO WE
00:21:26DON'T HAVE TO PROVE THE SERIOUS
PHYSICAL HARM AT THAT TIME.
00:21:29WE WOULD HAVE TO CONVINCE A JURY
THAT SERIOUS PHYSICAL HARM
00:21:33HAPPENED, THIS REGULATION
HAPPENED BEYOND A REASONABLE
00:21:36DOUBT TO BE ABLE TO WANT TO
CONVICTION.
00:21:38-- WARRANT A CONVICTION.
>> THERE'S A TREND, THE CHOKING
00:21:47GAME, THIS REGULATION GAME THAT.
COULD THIS LEAVE THOSE TEENAGERS
00:21:51TO PARTICIPATE THAT GAME OPEN TO
POSSIBLE FELONY CONVICTIONS?
00:21:55>> THAT'S WHEN KIDS ARE
STRENGTHENING THEMSELVES.
00:22:02>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> THAT WOULD BE A JUVENILE
00:22:10PROSECUTION, YOU WOULD HAVE TO
TALK TO JUVENILE PROSECUTORS
00:22:12ABOUT THAT.
WITH THAT FIT?
00:22:13YES.
IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS THING THAT
00:22:16WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET
AWARENESS ABOUT TO TELL TEENS
00:22:20NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL, BECAUSE
YOU RUN THE RISK OF STROKES
00:22:22LATER OR HEART PROBLEMS OR YOUR
AIRWAY CLOSING OFF AFTER A
00:22:29MATTER OF 36 HOURS.
COULD THEY OPEN?
00:22:32IT'S LIKE THE ASSAULT THING.
WOULD THEY BE CHARGED IS REALLY
00:22:36THE ISSUE?
THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT FIT
00:22:40THE STATUTE.
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THEY GO
00:22:42AFTER THAT ARE NOT.
I'M NOT SURE THAT WOULD BE THE
00:22:45REASON THAT I WOULD ARGUE A
STATUTE SHOULD NOT PASS.
00:22:49I THINK YOU THEN GO AND
EDUCATION ABOUT WHEN DO YOU USE
00:22:52THAT STATUTE.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
00:22:59I'M SURE EVERYONE WILL BE
AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY
00:23:03FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU ALL.
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