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LLP., HELPING BUSINESSES AND
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PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT OHIO, ACROSS
00:00:13THE COUNTRY, AND AROUND THE
WORLD -- ON THE WEB AT
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AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
00:00:16ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
120,000 MEMBERS WHO WORK TO
00:00:21INSPIRE THEIR STUDENTS TO THINK
CREATIVELY AND EXPERIENCE THE
00:00:23JOY OF LEARNING, ONLINE AT
OHEA.ORG.
00:00:24KAREN: THE STATE DELAYS ALL
EXECUTIONS FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT
00:00:37YEAR, AND PERHAPS LONGER.
ISSUE 1'S BACKERS HAVE LOTS OF
00:00:39ENDORSEMENTS, BUT ADMIT THEY
FEAR THEY COULD LOSE ANYWAY.
00:00:40AND A FOLLOW UP LAST WEEK'S
DEVASTATING DESCRIPTIONS OF THE
00:00:49OPIATE EPIDEMIC IN OHIO.
A LOOK AT WHAT THE STATE IS
00:00:51DOING ABOUT IT NOW.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:00:53OHIO."
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00:00:54KAREN: THE STATE HAS PUSHED BACK
EXECUTION DATES FOR A DOZEN
00:01:07CONDEMNED KILLERS, BECAUSE OF A
PROBLEM THAT'S NO SURPRISE TO
00:01:11ANYONE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT OR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE -- A LACK OF
00:01:16DRUGS FOR LETHAL INJECTIONS.
THE NEXT TWELVE SCHEDULED
00:01:19EXECUTIONS, STARTING WITH RONALD
PHILLIPS'S ON JANUARY 21, HAVE
00:01:21BEEN DELAYED UP TO A YEAR -- AND
IN SOME CASES TWO YEARS OR MORE.
00:01:24THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER EXISTING
EXECUTION DATES THAT ARE ON THE
00:01:26CALENDAR FOR 2017 THAT COULD
ALSO BE MOVED AS WELL, DEPENDING
00:01:28ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE
SITUATION WITH THE TWO DRUGS THE
00:01:29STATE HAS APPROVED FOR USE IN
LETHAL INJECTIONS.
00:01:31SODIUM THIOPENTAL IS NO LONGER
MADE BY FDA APPROVED COMPANIES,
00:01:34AND PENTOBARBITAL CANNOT BE USED
IN EXECUTIONS AT THE ORDER OF
00:01:38ITS MANUFACTURER.
LAWMAKERS PASSED A MEASURE LAST
00:01:44YEAR THAT WOULD ALLOW CERTAIN
PHARMACIES TO MAKE THE DRUGS,
00:01:46BUT PHARMACIES HAVEN'T BEEN
STEPPING FORWARD.
00:01:47ERNIE BOYD WITH THE OHIO
PHARMACISTS' ASSOCIATION SAYS
00:01:49THERE WERE TWO PROBLEMS WITH THE
WHOLE IDEA -- PHARMACIES WOULD
00:01:52HAVE TO BE ABLE TO COMPOUND
STERILE PRODUCTS, AND ONLY A FEW
00:01:55IN OHIO CAN DO THAT.
ERNIE BOYD: THE OTHER ISSUE IS
00:01:58THAT PHARMACISTS TAKE AN OATH
MUCH LIKE PHYSICIANS DO, "FIRST,
00:02:02DO NO HARM."
I CAN'T THINK OF ANY OTHER
00:02:04INSTANCE WHERE WE'RE ASKED TO
COMPOUND SOMETHING, MIX UP
00:02:15SOMETHING, THAT SPECIFICALLY
TAKES A PERSON OUT.
00:02:16KAREN: AND BOYD SAID THAT SOME
PHARMACIES WERE CONCERNED THAT
00:02:18EVEN THOUGH THE LAW WOULD SHIELD
THEM FROM PUBLIC EXPOSURE, THEY
00:02:20FEARED WORD WOULD STILL GET OUT
AND THEY WOULD BE THE TARGETS OF
00:02:28PROTESTS FROM ADVOCATES AND
CUSTOMERS.
00:02:33REPRESENTATIVE AND REPUBLICAN
JIM BUCHY OF GREENVILLE IN
00:02:39SOUTHWEST OHIO SPONSORED THAT
PHARMACY SHIELD BILL, AND SAYS
00:02:45HE DID BECAUSE HE'S A STRONG
SUPPORTER OF CAPITAL PUNISHMENT.
00:02:50REP. BUCHY: I'D LIKE TO SEE IT
WORK.
00:02:52THE LAW IS IN PLACE THAT WOULD
ALLOW LETHAL INJECTION TO STILL
00:02:53WORK.
BUT THE ISSUE IS NOT CAPITAL
00:02:55PUNISHMENT HERE.
THE ISSUE IS BEING ABLE TO CARRY
00:02:56OUT THE WISHES OF THE COURTS.
KAREN: MEANWHILE, THE FEDERAL
00:03:04GOVERNMENT HAS NOT YET RESPONDED
TO THE STATE'S REQUEST TO BRING
00:03:06IN EXECUTION DRUGS FROM OVERSEAS
IF THEY CAN BE FOUND.
00:03:10STATE SENATORS HAVE PASSED A
BILL TO ERASE A SMALL BUSINESS
00:03:13TAX INCREASE THAT ENDED UP IN
THE STATE BUDGET, APPARENTLY BY
00:03:15ACCIDENT.
THE INCOME TAX FIX BILL
00:03:19CLARIFIES THAT A 3% FLAT TAX FOR
BUSINESS INCOME APPLIES ONLY TO
00:03:25THAT INCOME ABOVE $250,000.
THE TAX DEPARTMENT HAD
00:03:28INTERPRETED THAT FLAT TAX AS A
HIKE FOR MANY SMALL BUSINESSES
00:03:31AND SELF-EMPLOYED PEOPLE WITH
INCOMES OF LESS THAN $40,000.
00:03:39LAWMAKERS ALSO ADDED IN MONEY
FOR SCHOOLS WHICH LOST FUNDS
00:03:40THROUGH A LINE-ITEM VETO
THAT GOVERNOR
00:03:43-- GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH SLAPPED
ON THE STATE BUDGET.
00:03:54REPUBLICAN CHRIS WIDENER OF
SPRINGFIELD SAID IT WILL
00:03:56PARTIALLY RESTORE SOME OF THAT
FUNDING.
00:03:58CHRIS WIDENER: SOME DISTRICTS
ARE NOT GOING TO BE MADE WHOLE.
00:03:59SOME DISTRICTS ARE NOT GOING TO
RECEIVE ANY SUPPLEMENT.
00:04:02SOME DISTRICTS ARE GOING TO
RECEIVE, OBVIOUSLY, LESS OF A
00:04:03SUPPLEMENT.
KAREN: KASICH REJECTED AROUND
00:04:04$84 MILLION IN SCHOOL FUNDING
WITH HIS VETO, INCLUDING ABOUT
00:04:06$20 MILLION THAT WOULD HAVE GONE
TO WEALTHIER DISTRICTS.
00:04:08AND THE SENATE ALSO PASSED A
BILL BACKED BY SENATE PRESIDENT
00:04:09KEITH FABER, WHICH WOULD DEFUND
PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
00:04:12PRO-CHOICE ADVOCATES WEARING
PINK WATCHED AS SENATORS DEBATED
00:04:16THE BILL WHICH SUPPORTERS SAID
REDIRECTS PUBLIC FUNDS AWAY FROM
00:04:19ANY ENTITY WHICH PERFORMS
ABORTIONS, WITH THE MONEY GOING
00:04:22INSTEAD TO, AS THE SENATE
MAJORITY PRESS OFFICE PUT IT,
00:04:25"COMPREHENSIVE HEALTHCARE TO
WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN OHIO AS
00:04:27WELL AS FAMILY PLANNING
SERVICES."
00:04:32>> WHETHER YOU CALL YOURSELF
PRO-LIFE OR PRO-CHOICE, I THINK
00:04:40MOST PEOPLE TAKE ISSUE WITH
TAXPAYER FUNDING SUPPORTING AN
00:04:43ORGANIZATION OF THAT SEEKS TO
PROFIT OFF OF THE HARVEST OF BB
00:04:48PARTS OF UNBORN CHILDREN.
WHILE THE TAXPAYERS OF THE STATE
00:04:52OF OHIO HAVE PROVIDED MILLIONS
OF DOLLARS TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD
00:04:56OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, THERE
ARE STILL IN THAT ORGANIZATION
00:05:03THAT STILL BELIEVE THEY SHOULD
PROFIT OFF OF BB PARTS.
00:05:06IN FACT, SOME OF THESE OFFICIALS
EVEN JOKED THAT THEY NEEDED TO
00:05:10GET MORE MONEY OFF OF THE PARTS
SO THEY COULD BUY A LAMBORGHINI.
00:05:15WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT.
>> IT IS UNACCEPTABLE TO PUT
00:05:24PERSONAL FEELINGS ABOUT ABORTION
AND PLANNED PARENTHOOD OVER THE
00:05:26HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF WOMEN
ACROSS THE STATE OF OHIO.
00:05:30MY COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE AISLE
HAVE DECIDED THAT THEY ARE NOT
00:05:34GOING TO LET THE TRUTH GET IN
THE WAY OF EARNING POLITICAL
00:05:36BROWNIE POINTS.
THEY HAVE DECIDED --
00:05:39>> SENATOR, YOU WILL KEEP TO THE
POINTS IN THE BILL PURSUANT TO
00:05:45THE ROLE.
-- RULE.
00:05:47>> THIS LEGISLATION IS NOT GOING
TO LET THE TRUTH TO STAND IN THE
00:05:54WAY OF A SHOCKING VIDEO.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO CARE MORE
00:05:59ABOUT THEIR AGENDA THAN
PROVIDING HEALTH CARE FOR
00:06:03CONSTITUENTS.
KAREN: THE BILL PASSED THE BILL
00:06:11IN A PARTYLINE VOTE.
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR MARY TAYLOR
00:06:17CONFIRMS THAT PAPERWORK HAS BEEN
FILED TO CREATE A POLITICAL
00:06:19ACTION COMMITTEE FOR HER, A VERY
CLEAR SIGN SHE WANTS TO RUN FOR
00:06:20GOVERNOR.
TAYLOR SAYS HER FRIENDS
00:06:23ORGANIZED THE PAC "ONWARD OHIO"
TO HELP HER CONTINUE TO GET HER
00:06:33POLITICAL MESSAGE OUT ABOUT WHAT
SHE'S DOING TO IMPROVE OHIO'S
00:06:37ECONOMIC CLIMATE.
BUT IT CAN ALSO HELP HER IF SHE
00:06:38DECIDES TO SEEK HIGHER OFFICE,
WHICH SHE SAYS SHE'S
00:06:40CONSIDERING. MARY TAYLOR: I AM
SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING RUNNING
00:06:41FOR GOVERNOR IN 2018.
REPORTER: SO HOW DOES THIS
00:06:42ENTITY LINE UP WITH THAT
INTEREST?
00:06:48MARY TAYLOR: IT'S GOING TO ALLOW
ME AND OTHERS TO CONTINUE TO
00:06:50FOCUS ON THE POLICIES THAT THE
GOVERNOR, GOVERNOR KASICH AND I,
00:06:56HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON FOR THE
LAST FIVE YEARS, COMMON SENSE
00:06:58POLICIES, CUTTING TAXES, OUR
COMMON SENSE INITIATIVE FOR
00:07:00REGULATORY REFORM.
KAREN: SECRETARY OF STATE JON
00:07:01HUSTED IS ALSO THOUGHT TO BE A
POSSIBLE REPUBLICAN
00:07:03GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE IN 2018,
ALONG WITH ATTORNEY GENERAL MIKE
00:07:07DEWINE, WHO WE'LL HEAR FROM IN A
FEW MINUTES.
00:07:10MEANWHILE, OTHER PROMINENT
REPUBLICANS ARE SHOWING THEIR
00:07:11CARDS FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
SENATE PRESIDENT KEITH FABER OF
00:07:15CELINA SAYS HE'LL RUN FOR THE
HOUSE NEXT YEAR IF HE WINS A TWO
00:07:18YEAR TERM HE COULD STILL RUN FOR
-- IF HE WINS A TWO YEAR TERM,
00:07:25HE COULD STILL RUN FOR ATTORNEY
GENERAL IN 2018.
00:07:31AND AKRON-AREA SENATOR FRANK
LAROSE IS EXPRESSING AN INTEREST
00:07:33IN THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S
OFFICE.
00:07:35THE OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY IS
ALSO LOOKING PAST THIS YEAR.
00:07:36IT'S ALREADY ENDORSED TWO
CANDIDATES IN THE 2016 OHIO
00:07:38SUPREME COURT CONTEST.
THE OHIO DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS
00:07:40ALSO ENDORSED IN A KEY 2016
RACE, BACKING FORMER GOVERNOR
00:07:47TED STRICKLAND, WHO FACES
CINCINNATI CITY COUNCILMAN P.G.
00:07:49SITTENFELD IN THE MARCH PRIMARY.
ELECTION DAY 2015 IS LESS THAN
00:07:51TWO WEEKS AWAY.
AND A NEW POLL SHOWS THAT THE
00:07:52THREE STATEWIDE ISSUES ON THE
BALLOT WILL LIKELY PASS, BUT
00:07:55THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF
UNDECIDED VOTERS ON EACH OF
00:07:57THEM.
THE NEW AKRON BUCKEYE POLL FROM
00:08:00THE BLISS INSTITUTE AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF AKRON POLL SHOWS
00:08:04VOTERS DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT
ISSUE 1, THE REDISTRICTING
00:08:06ISSUE, AND ISSUE 2, THE
ANTI-MONOPOLY AMENDMENT, BUT
00:08:10THEY DO HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF
INFORMATION AND INTEREST ABOUT
00:08:13ISSUE 3, THE MARIJUANA
LEGALIZATION PLAN THAT INCLUDES
00:08:17TEN SPECIFIED POT GROWING SITES,
UP TO 1100 RETAIL STORES, A HOME
00:08:22GROW PROVISION AND SPECIFIED TAX
RATES.
00:08:26THE POLL ASKED DETAILED
QUESTIONS ABOUT EACH ISSUE.
00:08:28THEY FOUND ISSUE 1 WAS MOST
LIKELY TO PASS, AND THE ONLY ONE
00:08:32WITH MAJORITY SUPPORT.
THE POLLSTERS PROJECTED ISSUES 2
00:08:35AND 3 COULD ALSO PASS, BUT FOUND
THE SUPPORT FOR THOSE ISSUES TO
00:08:39BE WEAKER.
THIS POLL FOUND RESULTS SIMILAR
00:08:42TO THOSE IN A POLL RELEASED
IN OCTOBER, OCTOBER 14 TO BE
00:08:48EXACT, BY WKYC-TV IN CLEVELAND
AND KENT STATE UNIVERSITY.
00:08:53THAT SURVEY SHOWED 56% SAID THEY
WOULD VOTE YES ON ISSUE 3 WITH
00:08:5610% UNDECIDED, BUT IT ALSO SAID
54% WOULD VOTE FOR ISSUE 2.
00:09:01THAT IS THE ANTI-MONOPOLY
AMENDMENT.
00:09:03HOWEVER, 26%, MORE THAN A
QUARTER OF THE VOTERS IN THE
00:09:05POLL, SAID THEY WEREN'T SURE HOW
THEY'D VOTE.
00:09:10-- VOTE ON ISSUE 2.
ISSUE 3 HAS RACKED UP A HOST OF
00:09:17OPPONENTS, INCLUDING PUBLIC
HEALTH, HOSPITAL AND MEDICAL
00:09:19GROUPS, CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND
BUSINESS GROUPS, LAW
00:09:21ENFORCEMENT, EDUCATION
ORGANIZATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT
00:09:22ASSOCIATIONS, RETAILERS AND
RELIGIOUS GROUPS.
00:09:25BUT THIS WEEK, ISSUE THREE'S
BACKERS GOT A SURPRISE
00:09:33ENDORSEMENT.
TO THOSE IN A POLL RELEASED
00:09:36IN OCTOBER, OCTOBER 14 TO BE
EXACT, BY WKYC-TV IN CLEVELAND
00:09:49AND KENT STATE UNIVERSITY.
THAT SURVEY SHOWED 56% SAID THEY
00:09:50WOULD VOTE YES ON ISSUE 3 WITH
10% UNDECIDED, BUT IT ALSO SAID
00:09:5454% WOULD VOTE FOR ISSUE 2.
THAT IS THE ANTI-MONOPOLY
00:09:58AMENDMENT.
HOWEVER, 26%, MORE THAN A
00:10:00QUARTER OF THE VOTERS IN THE
POLL, SAID THEY WEREN'T SURE HOW
00:10:02THEY'D VOTE.
-- VOTE ON ISSUE 2.
00:10:10ISSUE 3 HAS RACKED UP A HOST OF
OPPONENTS, INCLUDING PUBLIC
00:10:14HEALTH, HOSPITAL AND MEDICAL
GROUPS, CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND
00:10:16BUSINESS GROUPS, LAW
ENFORCEMENT, EDUCATION
00:10:17ORGANIZATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT
ASSOCIATIONS, RETAILERS AND
00:10:19RELIGIOUS GROUPS.
BUT THIS WEEK, ISSUE THREE'S
00:10:27BACKERS GOT A SURPRISE
ENDORSEMENT.
00:10:29THE OHIO RIGHTS GROUP, WHICH
SUPPORTS THE LEGALIZATION OF
00:10:31MEDICINAL MARIJUANA, HAD HOPED
TO GET ITS OWN ISSUE TO THE
00:10:33BALLOT, BUT FELL SHORT OF THE
SIGNATURE REQUIREMENT AT IT
00:10:39HOPES TO GET THAT NEXT YEAR.
THE GROUP SAYS IT ALSO OPPOSES
00:10:41ISSUE 2, WHICH OFFICIALS HAVE
SAID WOULD NEGATE ISSUE 3 IF
00:10:42BOTH PASS.
AND IF BOTH THE ANTI-MONOPOLY
00:10:44AMENDMENT AND THE MARIJUANA
LEGALIZATION AMENDMENT BOTH ARE
00:10:45APPROVED BY VOTERS, A COURT
BATTLE IS ALMOST CERTAIN.
00:10:46WITH A LITTLE UNDER TWO WEEKS TO
GO, THE BACKERS OF ISSUE 1
00:10:48SHOULD BE FEELING GOOD.
THE ISSUE WOULD CREATE A SEVEN
00:10:51MEMBER COMMISSION TO REDRAW
STATE LAWMAKERS' DISTRICT LINES
00:10:54WITH INCENTIVE FOR BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT.
00:10:59ISSUE 1 HAS BEEN ENDORSED BY
MANY BIG POLITICAL AND LOBBYING
00:11:06GROUPS, INCLUDING THE OHIO
AFL-CIO, THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF
00:11:08POLICE OF OHIO, THE OHIO FARM
BUREAU FEDERATION, THE OHIO
00:11:10MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION, THE
OHIO SOCIETY OF CPAS, SEVERAL
00:11:12CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND BOTH
MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES, BUT
00:11:15FAIR DISTRICTS FOR OHIO, THE
GROUP PUSHING ISSUE 1, IS
00:11:19STRUGGLING AGAINST AN UNSEEN
ENEMY -- APATHY.
00:11:23THE CO-CHAIRS OF FAIR DISTRICTS
FOR OHIO, FORMER REPRESENTATIVES
00:11:25MATT HUFFMAN, A REPUBLICAN OF
LIMA AND VERN SYKES, A DEMOCRAT
00:11:29OF AKRON, ARE WELL AWARE OF
THAT.
00:11:31>> THIS IS A -- NOT TOO MANY --
A TERRIBLY INTERESTING ISSUE AND
00:11:42CERTAINLY ISSUE 3, WHO WOULD
HAVE KNOWN THAT MARIJUANA IS
00:11:48MORE INTERESTING THAN
REDISTRICTING, BUT IT HAS TAKEN
00:11:53AWAY THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST, AND
THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT
00:11:56SURPRISING, AND I THINK THAT'S
HAVING AN EFFECT ON OUR
00:12:05FUNDRAISING.
KAREN: HUFFMAN SAYS OF ISSUE 1
00:12:06THAT, "WE THINK IT'LL PASS, BUT
IT'S FRAGILE."
00:12:08SYKES ECHOES THAT, SAYING THAT
HE IS "CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC."
00:12:20>> THIS REFORM ISSUE, THIS
CONCEPT HAS BEEN ON THE BALLOT
00:12:26-- BALLOT THREE TIMES, THIS IS
A STRATEGY THAT WE THINK IS
00:12:34SUCCESSFUL AND WE ARE HOPEFUL
THAT IT WILL PASS, JUST LIKE ANY
00:12:37OTHER ELECTION, REGARDLESS OF
HOW MUCH WE WIN, WE JUST WANT TO
00:12:45GET THE VICTORY.
THE VICTORY ITSELF WILL SEND A
00:12:48SIGNAL TO LEGISLATORS AND OTHER
PUNDITS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING
00:12:52THAT THE PUBLIC IS INTERESTED IN
IN MAKING A CHANGE IN THE
00:12:57INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC.
KAREN: HUFFMAN AND SYKES TALKED
00:12:58WITH ME ABOUT ISSUE 1 ON THIS
SHOW LAST MONTH.
00:13:00YOU CAN SEE THE FULL DISCUSSION
IN OUR ARCHIVE AT STATENEWS.ORG.
00:13:05COPS, LOCAL OFFICIALS, JUDGES
AND ADVOCATES FOR THE POOR HAVE
00:13:08BEEN ON THE FRONT LINES OF THE
WAR AGAINST OPIATES IN OHIO --
00:13:11PRESCRIPTION PAINKILLERS AS WELL
AS HEROIN.
00:13:14IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, LAWMAKERS
AND STATE OFFICIALS HAVE JOINED
00:13:17IN, SHUTTING DOWN THE PILL MILLS
WHERE THOSE PRESCRIPTION
00:13:23PAINKILLERS WERE HANDED OUT,
CREATING A DATABASE TO TRACK
00:13:25PRESCRIPTIONS, AND TOUGHENING
RULES ON PRESCRIPTIONS AT ERS
00:13:27AND ACUTE CARE FACILITIES.
TASK FORCES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT
00:13:30TOGETHER TO SHARE IDEAS, DRUG
COURTS HAVE BEEN FOUNDED, AND
00:13:33GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH'S OFFICE
LAUNCHED THE "START TALKING!"
00:13:35INITIATIVE TO TEACH KIDS ABOUT
THE DANGERS OF PRESCRIPTION DRUG
00:13:38ABUSE.
THE STATE OPENED A FEDERALLY
00:13:41DESIGNATED OPIATE TREATMENT
PROGRAM IN SOUTHERN OHIO AND
00:13:44EXPANDED THE USE OF NALOXONE, A
MEDICATION THAT CAN REVERSE
00:13:47OPIOID OVERDOSES.
BUT THE STATE'S OPIATE CRISIS
00:13:52RAGES ON, AND PEOPLE ARE STILL
DYING IN BIGGER NUMBERS EACH
00:13:54YEAR.
PRELIMINARY DATA FROM 2014 SHOWS
00:13:58A 17.5% INCREASE FROM THE
PREVIOUS YEAR, WITH 2482 DRUG
00:14:04OVERDOSE DEATHS IN OHIO LAST
YEAR -- THAT IS ALMOST 7 PEOPLE
00:14:12A DAY, OR ONE ABOUT EVERY THREE
HOURS.
00:14:15LAST WEEK I TALKED WITH SAM
QUINONES, WHOSE BOOK "DREAMLAND:
00:14:16THE TRUE TALE OF AMERICA'S
OPIATE EPIDEMIC" TRACKS IT TO
00:14:23OHIO, AND MAKES THE CASE THAT
IT'S THE EPICENTER OF THIS
00:14:25NATIONAL CRISIS.
THIS WEEK I'M PLEASED TO WELCOME
00:14:27ATTORNEY GENERAL MIKE DEWINE TO
TALK ABOUT WHAT THE STATE IS
00:14:29PLANNING NEXT IN THIS WAR.
ATTORNEY GENERAL, WELCOME.
00:14:34AG DEWINE: IT IS GOOD TO BE WITH
YOU, THANK YOU.
00:14:37KAREN: WE HAVE SEEN THE
STATISTICS ON PEOPLE WHO HAVE
00:14:41DIED FROM OVERDOSES, THAT JUST
THIS LAST WEEKEND, A
00:14:48THREE-YEAR-OLD DIED WHILE HIS
GRANDMOTHER WAS BABYSITTING HIM,
00:14:51HE DROWNED IN THE TUB WHILE HIS
MOTHER -- GRANDMOTHER WAS HIGH
00:14:54ON HEROIN.
THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL
00:14:59APPARENTLY FLEEING POLICE LAST
WEEK AND POLICE SAY THAT HEROIN
00:15:03WAS AN ISSUE IN THAT.
AG DEWINE: THIS IS THE WORST
00:15:05DRUG EPIDEMIC I HAVE SEEN IN MY
LIFETIME, AND I STARTED MANY,
00:15:12MANY YEARS AGO AS A COUNTY
PROSECUTOR THE 1970'S.
00:15:15WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS
EPIDEMIC IS THAT IT IS IN EVERY
00:15:21COUNTY AND IT CROSSES EVERY
ECONOMIC GROUP, RACIAL GROUP,
00:15:26NOT TO GENDER, ONE OR THE OTHER,
AND WE REALLY HAVE NEVER SEEN
00:15:30ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
WHEN I WAS A COUNTY PROSECUTOR
00:15:35IN GREENE COUNTY IN THE 1970'S,
CAROLYN WOULD BE FOUND IN THE
00:15:38MAJOR CITIES.
-- HEROIN WOULD BE FOUND IN THE
00:15:43MAJOR CITIES.
OF COURSE, IT WOULD BE TRIED FOR
00:15:47THEM, BUT IT WAS LESS LIKELY TO
BE IN A RURAL AREA THAN IT WAS
00:15:51IN THE CITY.
BUT NOW THAT IS WHAT MAKES THIS
00:15:55DIFFERENT.
THE DRUG CARTELS GROW THIS NOW
00:15:57IN MEXICO, THE POPPIES IN
MEXICO, THEY TRANSPORTED FROM
00:16:01DOWN THERE, THEY TAKE IT ACROSS
THE BORDER, IT COMES UP TO OHIO,
00:16:06IT GOES TO THE MAJOR CITIES, AND
IT GOES OUT FROM THERE.
00:16:11IT IS CHEAP, AND THAT IS ONE OF
THE PROBLEMS.
00:16:13IT CAN TAKE YOU $15 TO GET
STARTED ON HEROIN.
00:16:16I WAS TELL PEOPLE IF YOU KNOW
WHERE TO CALL AND IF YOU ARE
00:16:22SOMEPLACE IN OHIO, IT IS EASY TO
GET A PIECE OF HEROIN DELIVERED
00:16:25TO YOU.
KAREN: I WONDER WHAT THE STATE
00:16:30IS DOING ABOUT THIS, WE HAVE A
NEW KIND OF DRUG IN THIS WHOLE
00:16:32CRISIS.
THIS IS AN OPIATE DESCRIBED AS
00:16:3730-50 TIMES MORE POTENT AS
HEROINE.
00:16:41YOU HAVE TRIED TO SHUT DOWN THE
PILL MILLS, BUT WHAT IS THE
00:16:46STATE DOING IT NEXT NOW?
WHAT IS THE NEXT FRONT HERE IN
00:16:49THIS BATTLE?
AG DEWINE: LET'S TALK FIRST
00:16:53ABOUT THIS DRUG.
IT YOUR ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, IT IS
00:16:57ADDED TO HEROIN AND APPARENTLY
IT IS GIVING A BETTER HIGH BUT
00:17:02IT ALSO KILLS A LOT MORE PEOPLE.
SO YOU HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE IN
00:17:08THE COMMUNITY WHO IS BUYING AND
THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IT IS IN
00:17:11THE HEROIN AND YOU HAVE A WHOLE
BUNCH OF PEOPLE KILLED IN JUST
00:17:15ONE WEEKEND.
IF YOU LOOK AT OUR LAB, LOOK AT
00:17:17OUR NUMBERS, 2013, WE HAD 39
CASES IN REGARD TO IT.
00:17:212014, HAD 387, AND SO FAR IN
2015, WE ARE OVER 700.
00:17:33KAREN: EXPONENTIAL.
AG DEWINE: AS YOU CAN SEE, WE
00:17:40ARE GOING STRAIGHT UP.
NORMALLY WHAT THE ATTORNEY
00:17:44GENERAL DOES IS WE ARE PART OF A
DRUG TASK FORCE OR ORGANIZED
00:17:49CRIME TASK FORCE IS, WHICH IS
UNDER THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
00:17:54OFFICE, AND WE CREATE DIFFERENT
TASK FORCES.
00:17:56THAT WE HAVE TAKEN IT A STEP
FURTHER.
00:17:58WHEN I SAW THIS IN 2013, I SAW
JUST HOW BAD IT WAS, AND WE SET
00:18:04UP A HEROINE UNIT IN OUR OFFICE.
WHAT THAT HEROINE IT UNIT DOES
00:18:11FROM A LAW-ENFORCEMENT POINT OF
VIEW IS THAT IT GIVES
00:18:14ASSISTANCE, AND I CAN'T REALLY
TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE ARE
00:18:16ON THE AIR, BUT IT GIVES SPECIAL
ASSISTANCE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AS
00:18:19WELL AS GIVING EQUIPMENT AND
EXPERTISE.
00:18:25A GIVES LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
WITH HELP TO GET ABOVE THE
00:18:30STREET LEVEL AND STREET DEALERS
AND MOVE UP THE CHAIN, AND THAT
00:18:33IS WHAT IT VERY, VERY TOUGH.
WE HAVE DONE THIS IN PICKAWAY
00:18:37COUNTY AND OTHER COUNTIES AND
MANY COUNTIES WHERE WE HAVE
00:18:45ACTUAL ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS
RIGHT NOW THAT WE ARE INVOLVED
00:18:47IN, BUT OF COURSE, I CAN'T TELL
YOU ABOUT THOSE.
00:18:51SO THAT IS FROM A LAW
ENFORCEMENT POINT OF VIEW, BUT,
00:18:55AND THIS MAY SELL LIKE A STRANGE
THING FOR AN ATTORNEY GENERAL TO
00:18:58SAY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO ARREST
OUR WAY OUT OF THE PROBLEM.
00:19:01THIS IS VERY MUCH A PART OF A
PRODUCTION PROBLEM AND A SALE
00:19:07PROBLEM.
SO I HAVE TROUBLED THIS STATE
00:19:12AND GONE TO A LOT OF TOWN HALL
MEETINGS AND LOOKED AT THIS
00:19:15PROBLEM.
THE ONE THING THAT SEEMS TO WORK
00:19:17IS GRASSROOTS PEOPLE, THE COUNTY
LEVEL, LOCAL LEVEL, WHO JUST GET
00:19:24SO SICK OF SEEING THEIR KIDS DIE
AND THEIR NEIGHBORS' KIDS DIE,
00:19:30AND THEY JUST RISE UP.
YOU SAW THAT EXAMPLE IN SOME
00:19:36LOCAL COUNTIES.
YES, THERE IS STILL A PILL
00:19:39PROBLEM, THERE IS STILL A HEROIN
PROBLEM, BUT WE ARE MAKING
00:19:44PROGRESS.
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IN THE
00:19:46ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE IS TO
JOIN WITH THESE GRASSROOTS
00:19:49GROUPS AND TO ENCOURAGE OTHER
COUNTIES AND OTHER COMMUNITIES
00:19:53TO COME UP WITH THESE GRASSROOTS
GROUPS.
00:19:56SO WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE IN THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE AND
00:19:58THAT IS ALL THAT THEY DO, I TRY
TO NOT NECESSARILY REPLICATE
00:20:03FROM ONE COUNTY TO ANOTHER, BUT
IF ANY OF OUR VIEWERS DON'T
00:20:07THINK THAT THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITY
IS DOING ENOUGH IN REGARDS TO
00:20:11PREVENTION AND EDUCATION, I
WOULD INVITE THEM TO CALL OUR
00:20:14OFFICE.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WILL, OUT AND
00:20:16WE WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, --
PEOPLE WHO WILL COME OUT, BUT WE
00:20:22WON'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, WE
WILL SHOW YOU THIS THE TWO
00:20:25STICKS AND THE DATA AND
STATISTICALLY WHAT HAS WORKED.
00:20:29IT HAS TO BE NOT JUST THE
SCHOOLS, IT HAS TO BE NOT JUST
00:20:38LAW ENFORCEMENT, IT ALSO HAS TO
BE THE CHURCHES, IT HAS TO BE
00:20:41THE DIFFERENT GROUPS SUCH AS
ROTARY OR QANTAS -- OR KIWANIS.
00:20:50YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BUSINESS
COMMUNITY AND TELL THEM THAT IT
00:20:57AFFECTS THEIR COMMUNITY AS WELL.
THE COUNTIES WHO HAVE DONE THIS
00:21:00HAVE SEEN SOME REAL PROGRESS.
KAREN: I WANT TO ASK YOU ON THE
00:21:05LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE, YOU'VE GOT
TO COOP CARTELS -- TWO CARTELS,
00:21:11BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE
PHARMACEUTICAL CARTELS THAT
00:21:14HELPS TO FACILITATE THIS WHOLE
THING WITH THE AVAILABILITY OF
00:21:20PAINKILLERS.
HOW DO YOU COMBAT BOTH OF THOSE
00:21:23CARTELS AND IS ONE WORSE THAN
THE OTHER?
00:21:24AG DEWINE: WHEN I RAN FOR
ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR THE FIRST
00:21:28TIME AND WAS ELECTED IN 2010, AS
I CAMPAIGN, AND FRANKLY AS MY
00:21:33WIFE, FRAN, CAMPAIGN, WE HEARD
NOTHING BUT ABOUT THESE PAIN
00:21:39MEDS, THAT THEY WERE BEING
ABUSED, AND WE HAD SOME DOCTORS
00:21:46OUT THERE WHO WERE REALLY
NOTHING MORE THAN DRUG DEALERS.
00:21:50SO WE'VE MADE SOME REAL PROGRESS
INITIALLY, WORKING WITH GOVERNOR
00:21:53KASICH, THE GOVERNOR WAS ABLE TO
PUT SOME NEW PEOPLE ON THE STATE
00:21:57MEDICAL BOARD, THE STATE MEDICAL
BOARD BECAME VERY ACTIVE ON
00:22:03THIS.
WE HAD SOME RAIDS, WE TOOK AWAY
00:22:06LICENSES FROM ABOUT 50 DOCTORS
IN THE STATE WHO WERE REALLY
00:22:10NOTHING MORE THAN DRUG DEALERS.
SO WE HAVE MADE SOME REAL
00:22:12PROGRESS IN THE AREA OF PAIN
MEDICATION.
00:22:13NOW, IS THERE STILL A PROBLEM?
YES, THERE IS STILL A PROBLEM.
00:22:17BUT THAT IS ON THE LEGAL SIDE
AND IT IS IN A SENSE, THIS MAY
00:22:26SELL MY K STRANGE THING TO SAY,
BUT IT WAS EASIER TO DO THAT
00:22:28THAN IT -- THIS MAY SOUND LIKE A
STRANGE THING TO SAY, BUT IT WAS
00:22:33EASIER TO DO THAT THAN THE OTHER
WAY.
00:22:36WE CONTINUE TO SEE MORE AND MORE
PEOPLE MOVING TOWARDS HEROINE.
00:22:41I'VE -- HEROIN.
I THINK PEOPLE START ON
00:22:50MARIJUANA OR YOU HAVE A PERSON
WHO IS A BLUE-COLLAR WORKER OR
00:22:52SOMEONE WHO JUST HOW -- WHO JUST
GETS INJURED ON THE JOB AND WHO
00:23:01IS TRYING TO CONTROL HIS OR HER
PAIN AND THEN THEY BECOME
00:23:04ADDICTED.
WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS A
00:23:07MIGRATION FROM THAT OVER TO
HEROIN.
00:23:09HEROIN IS NOW MANY TIMES CHEAPER
, WHICH IS HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT
00:23:19NOW HEROIN IS VERY CHEAP.
WE HAVE A WAYS TO GO, BUT THIS
00:23:25HEROIN THING IS JUST HUGE, HUGE.
KAREN: BIG PICTURE KIND OF
00:23:31QUESTION HERE, YOU MENTIONED THE
WHOLE COMMUNITY, AND THE
00:23:37COMMUNITY HAS TO REALLY COME
TOGETHER BECAUSE THIS EPIDEMIC
00:23:41REALLY LIVES IN SILENCE, LIVES
IN THE DARK, PEOPLE DON'T TALK
00:23:45ABOUT IT AND THEY DON'T SHARE
STORIES, THAT TYPE OF THING.
00:23:47DO YOU THINK THERE IS A ROLE FOR
THE STATE IN MAKING SURE THAT
00:23:52LOCAL COMMUNITIES HAVE THE
FUNDING THAT THEY NEED TO KEEP
00:23:54LOCAL PROGRAMS GOING, TO KEEP
REC CENTERS AND POOLS OPEN,
00:23:59THINGS THAT WILL BRING THE
COMMUNITY TOGETHER?
00:24:00SAM TALKED ABOUT THE DREAMLAND
POOL IN PORTSMOUTH THAT KEPT THE
00:24:06COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
IS THERE A WAY TO KIND OF BRING
00:24:10THE COMMUNITIES TOGETHER?
AG DEWINE: THIS IS SOMETHING WE
00:24:15HAVE WORKED ON AT THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE.
00:24:17WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS A
NON-TAXPAYER DOLLAR PAID
00:24:26SITUATION, SO WE CAN HAVE
SOMETHING THAT IS NOT A WHOLE
00:24:28LOT, BUT WE HAVE FOR EXAMPLE,
SOMETHING CALLED THE MORTGAGE
00:24:34SETTLEMENT MONEY, WHERE YOU
REMEMBER, THESE MORTGAGE
00:24:39SETTLEMENTS WERE ROBUST SIGNING
-- ROBO-SIGNING PEOPLES' NAMES
00:24:50ONTO MORTGAGES, AND WE TOOK THAT
MONEY AND WE TURNED IT TO THE
00:24:55BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OF THE
STATE.
00:24:56SO THEY DO COME UNDER THE
CATEGORY OF PREVENTION.
00:25:01A KID WHO IS IN BOYS CLUB OR
GIRLS CLUB DOESN'T MEAN THAT
00:25:05THEY CAN'T START ON HEROIN, BUT
THEIR ODDS ARE BETTER NOT TO,
00:25:11AND WE STATISTICALLY KNOW THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOUR
00:25:14VIEWERS TO GO UP ONLINE TO OUR
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S WEBSITE AND
00:25:22LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE POSTED IN
REGARDS TO DRUGS, LOOK AT WHAT
00:25:25WE HAVE POSTED IN REGARDS TO
HEROIN.
00:25:26YOU SHOULD WATCH WHAT IS CALLED
MARIN'S STORY, MARIN WAS A
00:25:3920-YEAR-OLD LADY, A BEAUTIFUL
WOMAN WHO HAD EVERYTHING GOING
00:25:41FOR HER, SHE GOT ADDICTED TO
HEROIN, SHE GOT OFF OF IT AND
00:25:47GOT BACK ON IT A COUPLE OF
TIMES, AND FINALLY, HEROIN
00:25:52WON.
THE STORY TELLS YOU THAT IT CAN
00:25:59HAPPEN TO YOU.
KAREN: I WOULDN'T BE DOING MY
00:26:03JOB IF I DID ASK ABOUT 2018
BECAUSE CERTAIN RACES ARE
00:26:08ALREADY STARTING TO SHAPE UP.
THERE WAS DISCUSSION THAT FRANK
00:26:13WHEN ROSE WAS INTERESTED AS THE
POSITION FOR SECRETARY OF STATE
00:26:16AND THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED FOR
THE POSITION OF GOVERNOR.
00:26:18HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT IT OR ARE
YOU STILL THINKING ABOUT IT?
00:26:23AG DEWINE: SURE, BUT WHAT WE
SHOULD BE CONCENTRATING ON DOING
00:26:27RIGHT NOW IS REELECTING ROB
PORTMAN TO SENATE AND ELECTING A
00:26:34REPUBLICAN FOR PRESIDENT.
THAT IS WHERE WE NEED TO FOCUS
00:26:37AT THIS POINT.
KAREN: SO YOU ARE LOOKING AT
00:26:42NEXT YEAR IN SET OF THREE YEARS
FROM NOW?
00:26:43AG DEWINE: WELL, I THINK THAT IS
UNFAIR, SAYING THAT MIKE DEWINE
00:26:48IS FOCUSED ON THE GOVERNOR'S
GRACEFULLY HAVE OTHER RACES WE
00:26:53NEED TO FOCUS ON FIRST.
KAREN: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
00:26:56JOINING US.
AG DEWINE: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
00:26:58HAVING ME.
KAREN: AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS
00:27:03WEEK.
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