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00:00:21>> THE SUMMER BREAK IS COMING
TO AN END FOR STATE LAWMAKERS.
00:00:24WE'LL RUN DOWN SOME OF THE BIG
AND CONTROVERSIAL MEASURES
00:00:27THEY'LL BE FACING THIS FALL,
ALONG WITH THOSE WHICH HAVE
00:00:30BIPARTISAN SUPPORT BUT HAVEN'T
MOVED MUCH.
00:00:33ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO."
00:00:39>> STATE LAWMAKERS ARE EXPECTED
BACK FOR HEARINGS AND VOTING
00:00:42SESSIONS IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
AND HOUSE SPEAKER BILL
00:00:45BATCHELDER HAS SAID THAT
MEDICAID IS AT THE TOP OF THE
00:00:48AGENDA.
BUT HE'S BEEN CLEAR ON HIS
00:00:50VIEWS THAT HE DOESN'T FAVOR
EXPANSION, AND BATCHELDER ADDED
00:00:54THIS WHEN SPEAKING TO REPORTERS
IN AUGUST.
00:00:56WHEN IT WAS MENTIONED TO HIM
THAT GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH WHO
00:00:59SUPPORTS MEDICAID EXPANSION
SAYS THAT MEDICAID EXPANSION IS
00:01:03NOT OBAMACARE.
>> HE DOES?
00:01:04WELL, GOD LOVE HIM.
YOU KNOW?
00:01:08I'M SURE HE DOES.
AND HE TALKS ABOUT EXPANSION.
00:01:11I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD
IDEA.
00:01:14REFORM IS A GOOD IDEA.
SO, WE WILL HAVE LANGUAGE DOING
00:01:17THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
IT'S BEEN PRETTY TOUGH,
00:01:20FRANKLY.
>> OVER THE LAST TWO SHOWS,
00:01:22WE'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE
INVOLVED IN THE ISSUE OF
00:01:24MEDICAID EXPANSION AND REFORM.
THERE ARE AT LEAST FOUR BILLS
00:01:27RELATED TO MEDICAID IN THE
LEGISLATURE RIGHT NOW, ONE WITH
00:01:30BIPARTISAN SUPPORT, WHICH WOULD
REFORM MEDICAID.
00:01:33IT'S CONSIDERED THE MOST LIKELY
TO PASS.
00:01:36THERE'S A BILL FROM REPUBLICAN
REPRESENTIVE BARBARA SEARS,
00:01:39WHICH WOULD EXPAND MEDICAID AS
GOVERNOR KASICH HAD FIRST
00:01:42PROPOSED, BUT SHE SAID ON THIS
SHOW TWO WEEKS AGO IT ALSO
00:01:46MAKES OTHER CHANGES.
THERE'S ALSO ONE FROM
00:01:48DEMOCRATIC SENATOR CAPRI CAFARO
OF THE YOUNGSTOWN AREA WHICH
00:01:52WOULD EXPAND AND MAKE FUR
REFORMS IN MEDICAID.
00:01:55AND THERE'S A BILL FROM
REPUBLICAN REPUBLICIVE JOHN
00:01:59BECKER OF CINCINNATI WHICH
WOULD GO THE OPPOSITE WAY AND
00:02:00PULL BACK MEDICAID TO FEDERAL
MINIMUMS.
00:02:03BUT THERE ARE OTHER BILLS THAT
HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AND
00:02:04INTRODUCED EARLIER THIS YEAR
AND IN THE SUMMER RECESS, AND
00:02:08SOME COULD BE ON THE FLOOR IN
THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, WHILE
00:02:10OTHERS HAVE ALMOST NO CHANCE OF
BEING HEARD.
00:02:12IN THE LATTER CATEGORY ARE
SEVERAL BILLS THAT HOUSE
00:02:15DEMOCRATS HAVE PROPOSED ON
JOBSOHIO, INCLUDING THE
00:02:19SO-CALLED JOBSOHIO
ACCOUNTABILITY ACT, PROPOSED IN
00:02:22MAY, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE
SALARIES, MEETINGS AND RECORDS
00:02:25TO BE MADE PUBLIC, AND FOR
JOBSOHIO TO BE SUBJECT TO AN
00:02:28AUDIT AND FOR A WEBSITE TO BE
SET UP TO TRACK ITS FUNDS.
00:02:32IN AUGUST, HOUSE DEMOCRATS
INTRODUCED A BILL THAT WOULD
00:02:35BAN A SITTING GOVERNOR FROM
ACCEPTING PAYMENTS FROM PRIVATE
00:02:38COMPANIES.
THEY'VE ALSO ASKED A HOUSE
00:02:40OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE TO CONDUCT
HEARINGS, AND FOR SUBPOENAS TO
00:02:43FORCE JOBSOHIO EXECUTIVES TO
TESTIFY BEFORE COMMITTEES.
00:02:47AND THEY'VE ASKED FOR THE
ETHICS COMMISSION AND FOR THE
00:02:50INSPECTOR GENERAL TO
INVESTIGATE JOBSOHIO, BOTH
00:02:53REQUESTS HAVE BEEN REJECTED ON
THE GROUNDS THAT THE ENTITIES
00:02:55DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO
INITIATE SUCH INVESTIGATIONS.
00:02:58EARLIER THIS MONTH, A LAW TOOK
EFFECT BANNING THE STATE
00:03:02AUDITOR FROM CONDUCTING AN
AUDIT OF JOBSOHIO.
00:03:05DEMOCRATS STILL URGED AUDIT OR
DAVID YOST TO COMPLETE A AUDIT
00:03:08WITH THE DOCUMENTS HE ASKED FOR
VIA SUBPOENA IN MARCH.
00:03:10THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE SAYS THAT
AUDIT STILL BEING CONDUCTED,
00:03:14AND IT'S EXPECTED TO COME OUT
SOMETIME IN OCTOBER.
00:03:17BUT SPEAKER BILL BATCHELDER
SAYS HE HAS NO PLANS TO TAKE UP
00:03:20JOBSOHIO MEASURES WHEN
LAWMAKERS RETURN.
00:03:22>> IN FACT, WE'RE AT A POINT
WHERE IT'S GETTING KIND OF
00:03:26SILLY.
WHAT ARE WE, ONE YEAR AND EIGHT
00:03:29MONTHS PAST ITS PASSAGE AND
SIGNATURE BY THE GOVERNOR?
00:03:32AND I GOT IT THROUGH THE HOUSE
IN 11 DAYS.
00:03:34I -- WE'RE CREATING JOBS.
BOTTOM LINE.
00:03:37AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT.
>> THE JOBSOHIO ACCOUNTABILITY
00:03:42ACT WAS ASSIGNED TO A
COMMITTEE, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN
00:03:43NO HEARINGS YET.
THE BAN ON GOVERNORS ACCEPTING
00:03:46COMPENSATION FROM PRIVATE
COMPANIES WAS INTRODUCED IN
00:03:49AUGUST AND HAS YET TO BE
ASSIGNED TO A COMMITTEE.
00:03:52TWO OF THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS WHO
PROPOSED THESE MEASURES ARE
00:03:55RUNNING FOR OFFICE NEXT YEAR.
REPUBLICIVE CONNIE PILLICH OF
00:03:59CINCINNATI WILL CHALLENGE
TREASURER JOSH MANDEL.
00:04:02AND REPUBLICIVE JOHN CARNEY
ANNOUNCED IN SEPTEMBER HE WANTS
00:04:05TO RUN AGAINST DAVID YOST.
AND ALSO JOBSOHIO'S TOP
00:04:10MANAGEMENT SAID IT WILL HIRE A
P.R. FIRM TO TRY TO DEAL WITH
00:04:13WHAT THE LEADERS SUGGEST IS A
PUBLIC IMAGE PROBLEM TWO.
00:04:16BILLS FROM THE CONSERVATIVE
SIDE OF THE LEGISLATURE ARE
00:04:18ALSO UNLIKELY TO GET MORE
ATTENTION FROM LAW MARKERS.
00:04:20THE LATE SOAST CALLED RIGHT TO
WORK BILL IS CALLED THE
00:04:23WORKPLACE FREEDOM WILL, WOULD
PROHIBIT PUBLIC AND PRIVATE
00:04:27EMPLOYERS FROM REQUIRING
WORKERS TO JOIN UNIONS.
00:04:31THE BILLS COME LESS THAN TWO
YEARS AFTER VOTERS
00:04:35OVERWHELMINGLY REJECTED SENATE
BILL FIVE WHICH SET LIMITS ON
00:04:37PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS.
WHILE DEMOCRATS AND UNIONS WERE
00:04:41FURIOUS, IN THE END, THIS MAY
NOT MATTER MUCH.
00:04:43GOVERNOR KASICH HAS REPEATEDLY
SAID HE LIKES THE IDEA BUT HAS
00:04:47ALSO SAID HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY
INTEREST IN SO-CALLED RIGHT TO
00:04:50WORK LEGISLATION RIGHT NOW, AS
HE IS PREPARING A RUN FOR
00:04:53RE-ELECTION.
AND SENATE PRESIDENT KEITH
00:04:54FABER ISSUED A STATEMENT HOURS
AFTER THE BILLS WERE ANNOUNCED,
00:04:57SAYING HE DID NOT BELIEVE THERE
WAS SUPPORT FOR THE ISSUE AMONG
00:05:01LAWMAKERS, AND, QUOTING FABER
HERE, "THE ONLY PURPOSE THIS
00:05:05DISCUSSION SERVES RIGHT NOW IS
TO GENERATE A BUNCH OF
00:05:08BREATHLESS FUNDRAISING APPEALS
FROM THE OHIO DEMOCRATIC
00:05:10PARTY."
BUT THE MEASURE DID HAVE ONE
00:05:12HEARING BEFORE THE HOUSE
MANUFACTURING AND WORK FORCE
00:05:15DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, AND THE
ROOM WAS PACKED.
00:05:17THERE WERE MORE THAN A HUNDRED
OPPONENTS IN THAT ROOM AND IN
00:05:21SEVERAL OVERFLOW ROOMS TO HEAR
SPONSOR TESTIMONY ON THE BILLS
00:05:24FROM REPUBLICANS CHRISTINA
ROEGNER OF HUDSON AND RON MAAG
00:05:28OF LEBANON.
AND WITH THE FIRST QUESTIONING
00:05:30BY DEMOCRATIC TOM LETSON OF
WARREN, EMOTIONS BOILED OVER.
00:05:33>> CURRENTLY, OHIO ALAWS FOR
THOSE PEOPLE THAT DO NOT WANT
00:05:38TO BELONG TO UNIONS TO NOT
BELONG TO UNIONS.
00:05:42[APPLAUSE]
[GAVEL BANGING]
00:05:48>> WE WILL HAVE DECORUM IN THIS
ROOM!
00:05:52>> KIRK SCHURING OF CANTON
WARNED THE OPPONENTS OF THE
00:05:53BILLS TO KEEP QUIET, WHICH THEY
DID REST REST OF THE HEARING.
00:05:57BOTH BILLS HAVE 16 CO-SPONSORS,
BUT SCHURING SAYS THIS WAS
00:06:00LIKELY THE ONLY HEARING.
>> WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT, WE
00:06:04REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT.
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON ENERGY
00:06:08POLICY.
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON TAX POLICY.
00:06:09YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PROBABLY
ABOUT EIGHT OR 10 THINGS THAT,
00:06:14IN MY OPINION, RANK ABOVE THIS
PARTICULAR ISSUE.
00:06:18>> SCHURING SAYS THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS UNANIMOUSLY AGREED TO
00:06:21NO MORE HEARINGS, BUT LIKELY
FOR VERY DIFFERENT REASONS.
00:06:24CERTAINLY NEXT YEAR'S STATEWIDE
ELECTIONS ARE AMONG THOSE
00:06:27REASONS.
ANOTHER CONTROVERSIAL MEASURE
00:06:30THAT'S CIRCLING BACK BEFORE
LAWMAKERS IS THE SO-CALLED
00:06:33HEARTBEAT BILL, WHICH WOULD BAN
ABORTION AT THE FIRST
00:06:35DETECTABLE FETAL HEARTBEAT, AND
WOULD BE AMONG THE MOST
00:06:39RESTRICTIVE ABORTION LAWS IN
THE COUNTRY.
00:06:41IT WAS REINTRODUCED BY
CHRISTINA HAGAN, A REPUBLICAN
00:06:44OF ALLIANCE.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WHO
00:06:47SAY YOU SHOULDN'T WORK ON
SOCIAL ISSUES, BUT, IN FACT,
00:06:49ECONOMIC ISSUES AND SOCIAL
ISSUES GO HAND IN HAND.
00:06:51WHEN WE HAVE 20,000 CHILDREN
THAT ARE ABORTED IN AN ANNUAL
00:06:57BASIS IN THE STATE OF OHIO, AND
WE HAVE 70,000 UNFILLED JOBS,
00:07:01THERE MIGHT BE A CORRELATION.
>> HAIGAS WAS JOINED BY SOME OF
00:07:05THE 40 REPUBLICAN CO-SPONSORS
OF THE BILL AND BY REALITY TV
00:07:09STARS JIM BOB AND MICHELLE
DUGGAR AND 17 OF THEIR 19 KIDS.
00:07:14AND BY THE PREVIOUS HEARTBEAT
BILL SPONSOR, REPUBLICAN
00:07:18REPRESENTIVE LYNN WACHTMANN OF
NORTHWEST OHIO.
00:07:21THIS NEW BILL ALSO MANDATES
INSPECTION SNPPINGSES OF
00:07:26ABORTION CLINICS AND STUDY WAYS
TO IMPROVE ADOPTION IN OHIO.
00:07:29>> TO THOSE WHO SAY WE HAVE A
WAR ON WOMEN, I WOULD REMIND
00:07:32YOU THE REAL WAR ON WOMEN ARE
THE ABORTIONISTS, THE SLAYERS
00:07:37OF THOSE YOUNG BABIES, THE
YOUNG GIRLS IN THE MOTHER'S
00:07:42WOUND WHO TAKE THEIR LIVES.
THAT IS THE REAL WAR ON WOMEN.
00:07:44>> LAST TIME AROUND, HEARTBEAT
BILL HAD DIVIDED ANTI-ABORTION
00:07:49ADVOCATES WITH OHIO RIGHT TO
LIFE OPPOSING IT THAT IT WAS
00:07:54UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
TOM KNEE HAUSS HAD WANTED RIGHT
00:07:55TO LIFE AND HEARTBEAT BILL
SUPPORTER TO COMPROMISE BEFORE
00:08:00HE WOULD BRING THE BILL TO A
VOTE.
00:08:01BUT THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
THE HEARTBEAT BILL WAS
00:08:03INTRODUCED IN THE HOUSE IN MID
AUGUST, BUT SINCE LAWMAKERS
00:08:07HAVE NOT BEEN BACK FROM SUMMER
BREAK SINCE, THERE HAVE BEEN NO
00:08:11HEARINGS.
IN FACT, IT HAS NOT BEEN
00:08:12ASSIGNED TO A COMMITTEE.
A BILL ALSO DISCUSSED IN AUGUST
00:08:15WOULD REQUIRE CITIES TO BALANCE
THEIR BUDGETS JUST AS THE STATE
00:08:20IS OBLIGATED TO DO UNDER ITS
CONSTITUTION.
00:08:23THE BILL FROM REPUBLICIVE LOU
TERHAR WOULD ALSO REQUIRE ALL
00:08:28GOVERNMENTAL SUBDIVISIONS TO
MAINTAIN PENSION PLANS.
00:08:33TERHAR SAYS BANKRUPTCY FILING
FRESS DETROIT AND STOCKTON,
00:08:37CALIFORNIA, ARE REMINDERS OF
WHY OHIO'S GOVERNMENTAL
00:08:40SUBDIVISIONS SHOULD NOT BE LEFT
OPEN TO FINANCIAL CRISES.
00:08:44>> WE HAVE 24 POLITICAL
SUBDIVISIONS, INCLUDING THE
00:08:49CITY OF GARFIELD HEIGHTS, THE
ENTIRE COUNTY, THE CITY OF
00:08:54MANSFIELD AND THE CITY OF EAST
CLEVELAND.
00:08:57IN FISCAL WATCH, WE HAVE THREE
MAIN CITIES.
00:09:03THE CITY OF LORRAINE.
THE CITY OF NORWOOD, WHICH IS
00:09:06IN HAMILTON COUNTY, AND THE
CITY OF PORTSMOUTH.
00:09:11AND IN THE MIDDLE CATEGORY,
WHICH IS FISCAL CAUTION, I'M
00:09:18SORRY, THE SMALLEST CATEGORY,
WE HAVE FIVE.
00:09:21AND OF THOSE FIVE, ONE IS THE
CITY OF AKRON AND THE OTHER --
00:09:27SO IT IS NOT AS IF WE DO NOT
HAVE ISSUES THAT WE ARE
00:09:30REQUIRED TO DEAL WITH.
>> BUT A SPOKESMAN FOR THE OHIO
00:09:37MUNICIPAL LEAGUE SAYS CITIES
ARE ALREADY REQUIRED TO HAVE
00:09:38BALANCED BUDGETS.
AND KENT SCARRETT NOTES THAT
00:09:42CITIES ARE HAVING A HARD TIME
RIGHT NOW TRYING TO MAKE ENDS
00:09:44MEET, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE
STATE HAS MADE WHAT HE CALLS
00:09:47DRASTIC CUTS IN LOCAL
GOVERNMENT FUNDS AND TAKEN AWAY
00:09:49LOCAL REVENUE THROUGH ESTATE
TAXES.
00:09:51THE SO-CALLED FINANCIAL
RESPONSIBILITY IN GOVERNMENT
00:09:54ACT HAS NOT BEEN OFFICIALLY
INTRODUCED, SO THERE'S NO BILL
00:09:57NUMBER FOR IT.
TERHAR'S OFFICE SAYS THE BILL
00:10:00IS STILL IN THE PROCESS OF
BEING DRAFTED BUT SHOULD BE
00:10:03READY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
ANOTHER REPUBLICAN-SPONSORED
00:10:06MEASURE SEEKS TO DEAL WITH
VIOLENT GUN CRIMES IN OHIO.
00:10:08IT WORKS OFF AN OHIO STATE
UNIVERSITY STUDY OF VIOLENT
00:10:12CRIMES DATA FROM 1974-2010.
THAT STUDY SHOWS LESS THAN 1%
00:10:17OF OHIO'S POPULATION HAS TWO OR
MORE FELONY CONVICTIONS, AND
00:10:22THAT SMALL GROUP COMMITTED 57%
OF THOSE CRIMES IN THAT PERIOD.
00:10:25IN APRIL, ATTORNEY GENERAL MIKE
DEWINE, STATE SENATOR JIM
00:10:29HUGHES OF COLUMBUS, AND
FRANKLIN COUNTY PROSECUTOR RON
00:10:32O'BRIEN ANNOUNCED A BILL THAT
SEEKS TO SHUT DOWN JUST THAT
00:10:35SMALL PERCENTAGE OF VIOLENT
CRIMINALS WITH GUNS, WHO THEY
00:10:39CALL VIOLENT CAREER CRIMINALS.
THE REPUBLICANS SAY THE BILL
00:10:42HAS A LASER-LIKE FOCUS ON THE
GROUP THAT'S DOING THE MOST
00:10:45DAMAGE.
>> WHAT THIS IS TARGETING IS
00:10:48THE WORST OF THE WORST
OFFENDERS.
00:10:50WHAT WE'VE FOUND THROUGH GOING
THROUGH A STUDY, ATTORNEY
00:10:53GENERAL MIKE DEWINE
COMMISSIONED A STUDY FOR TWO
00:10:57YEARS.
BROUGHT EXPERTS IN AND SAID
00:10:59WHAT ARE WE EXACTLY DOING WITH
THE WORST OF THE WORST?
00:11:01WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH CITIZENS
IN TERMS OF THESE PEOPLE?
00:11:04WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT 1% OF
THOSE THAT COMMIT CRIME COMMIT
00:11:0857% OF THE CRIMES.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE
00:11:11TARGETING JUST THAT 1% THAT
COMMIT THIS CRIME.
00:11:14WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IF YOU
COMMIT TWO OR MORE FELONIES AND
00:11:17YOU HAVE A HANDGUN, CERTAIN
THINGS HAPPEN.
00:11:20AND FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE
WHAT'S CALLED GUN SPECS.
00:11:24CURRENTLY IT'S ONE, THREE, FIVE
OR SEVEN, DEPENDING ON IF YOU
00:11:27HAVE IT ON YOU, YOU BRANDISH
IT, YOU USE IT, WHATEVER THE
00:11:31CASE MAY BE IN THE COMMISSION
OF THE CRIME.
00:11:33WHAT THE PROPOSAL DOES IS
DOUBLE THAT, OK?
00:11:35IN TERMS OF THIS.
ALSO WE CREATE WHAT IS CALLED A
00:11:38NEW AREA CALLED THE ARMED
VIOLENT CAREER CRIMINAL.
00:11:42WE'RE SAYING CURRENTLY IT'S ONE
TO FIVE.
00:11:44WE'RE MAKING IT 11 YEARS.
KIND OF A PATTERNED AFTER THE
00:11:48FEDERAL STATUTE.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DID
00:11:50SOMETHING LIKE THIS A FEW YEARS
AGO.
00:11:53THEIRS STARTS AT 15, AND THEY
SAW A REDUCTION IN TERMS OF THE
00:11:57RECIDIVISM OF THIS.
>> NOW THE FIRST QUESTION THAT
00:11:58EVERYBODY ASKS IS HOW IS THIS
GOING TO AFFECT THE PRISON
00:12:02POPULATION?
PRISON IS ALREADY AT 130%
00:12:05CAPACITY.
THE PRISONS DEPARTMENT SAID
00:12:06THAT IF THIS LAW IS PASSED, IT
CAN FORCE THE REOPENING OF
00:12:09SECTIONS OF THE PRISONS IN
TOLEDO AND YOUNGSTOWN AND THE
00:12:12CONSTRUCTION OF 750-HIGH
SECURITY PRISONS, COSTING THE
00:12:18TAXPAYERS $150 MILLION.
IT WOULD REQUIRE MORE THAN A
00:12:21THOUSAND EXTRA BEDS, COST MORE
THAN $880 MILLION OVER 20
00:12:24YEARS.
SO, HOW DO YOU PAY FOR THIS?
00:12:26>> SURE, FIRST THING ABOUT THIS
IS REMEMBER WITH THE REFORM
00:12:30THAT THE GOVERNOR DID, THAT WAS
GETTING THE F-4'S AND THE F-5'S
00:12:35OUT OF THE PRISONS.
THIS IS LOW LEVEL.
00:12:37AS WELL AS F-3'S, WHICH IS
MIDDLE GRADE.
00:12:42THOSE NUMBERS DO NOT TAKE IN
CONSIDERATION OF THAT.
00:12:44>> AND HUGHES SAYS THE COST
WOULD BE EVEN LESS TO COUNTIES
00:12:47IF THESE REPEAT OFFENDERS ARE
LOCKED UP FOR LONGER PERIODS
00:12:50AND AREN'T CONTINUALLY COMING
THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
00:12:52HUGHES SAYS IN HIS EXPERIENCE
IN THE PROSECUTORS' OFFICES IN
00:12:55COLUMBUS AND FRANKLIN COUNTY,
THIS KIND OF DETERRENCE WORKS.
00:13:00THOUGH THE THREE ELECTED
OFFICIALS ARE ALL REPUBLICANS,
00:13:04DEMOCRATS SAY THEY'RE BEHIND
THE IDEA AS WELL.
00:13:06SENATOR JOE SCHIAVONI IS FROM
THE YOUNGSTOWN AREA.
00:13:08>> I THINK THAT WE'RE
ADDRESSING GUNS SPECIFICALLY,
00:13:12WE'RE ADDRESSING VIOLENT
OFFENDERS THAT ARE CARRYING
00:13:14GUNS.
SO PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY
00:13:16BEEN CONVICTED OF VIOLENT
FELONIES, IF THEY'RE GOING TO
00:13:18CONTINUE TO CARRY FIREARMS,
THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO DEAL
00:13:21WITH THEM OTHER THAN TO LOCK
THEM IN JAIL FOR A SIGNIFICANT
00:13:23AMOUNT OF TIME.
BECAUSE, OF COURSE, I ALWAYS AT
00:13:26FIRST WANT TO ERR ON THE
REHABILITATION RATHER THAN
00:13:31INCARCERATION.
YOU KNOW, I WORKED FOR A DRUG
00:13:36CORP.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE A REPEAT
00:13:39OFFENDER AND VIOLENT OFFENDER
AND YOU'RE GOING TO CARRY A
00:13:41GUN, THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO
DEAL WITH YOU.
00:13:44AND IF THAT COSTS THE STATE,
THEN WE HAVE TO FIND THAT MONEY
00:13:47TO DEAL WITH THAT.
OUR FIRST -- OUR FIRST PRIORITY
00:13:53AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PRIORITY
IS KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE AND IT'S
00:13:58KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE REQUIRES
GETTING THOSE OFFENDERS
00:14:01INCARCERATED, THAT'S WHAT WE
HAVE TO DO, IN MY OPINION.
00:14:03>> THIS BILL DOES NOT ADDRESS
ANY SORT OF GUN PURCHASES AND
00:14:07BACKGROUND CHECKS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THAT AS
00:14:08PART OF THE BILL OR EVEN AS A
SEPARATE BILL?
00:14:10>> I THINK AT THIS POINT,
DEALING WITH VIOLENT OFFENDERS
00:14:14THAT ARE CARRYING FIREARMS IS A
GOOD FIRST STEP.
00:14:17NOW, HAVING THE WHOLE GUN
CONTROL ISSUE, THAT'S A WHOLE
00:14:20DIFFERENT DISCUSSION THAT HAS
TO HAPPEN.
00:14:22I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD BE
PART OF THIS BILL.
00:14:24I THINK THAT IT WILL CON SEW
LIEUTENANT THIS BILL AND IT
00:14:27WILL GET PEOPLE -- LIT JUST
CONFUSE THE ISSUE.
00:14:30IT'S A VERY SIMPLE ISSUE.
DO YOU WANT THESE MOST -- DO
00:14:33YOU WANT THE MOST VIOLENT
OFFENDERS OFF YOUR STREETS?
00:14:36DID YOU DO, VOTE FOR THE BILL
AND THAT'S WHY I'M GOING VOTE
00:14:39FOR THE BILL.
>> HUGHES SAYS THE BILL IS
00:14:42BASED ON FEDERAL LEGISLATION,
OHIO WOULD BE THE FIRST STATE
00:14:44TO TRY THIS APPROACH AND IT
WORKS IT COULD BE A MODEL FOR
00:14:47OTHER STATES WRESTLING WITH THE
PROBLEM OF GUN VIOLENCE,
00:14:50ESPECIALLY IN CITIES.
THE BILL WAS ASSIGNED TO THE
00:14:51SENATE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
COMMITTEE IN EARLY MAY BUT HAS
00:14:54NOT HAD A HEARING YET.
A CONTROVERSIAL MEASURE WITH
00:14:58BIPARTISAN SUPPORT IS HALFWAY
THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE AT THIS
00:15:00POINT.
IT'S THE BILL TO BAN TRAFFIC
00:15:03CAMERAS THAT ARE USED BY MORE
THAN A DOZEN CITIES IN OHIO.
00:15:06THE MEASURE STEAD THROUGH THE
OHIO HOUSE IN JUNE IN THE MIDST
00:15:10OF THE DISCUSSIONS ON THE STATE
BUDGET.
00:15:12THE BILL'S CO-SPONSOR, RON
MAAG, SAYS THOSE CAMERAS ARE
00:15:17USED JUST TO RAISE MONEY AND
DON'T INCREASE SAFETY.
00:15:19>> IN 2008, UNIVERSITY OF
FLORIDA REPORT SUMMED UP THE
00:15:24ISSUE SAYING COM PREHNSIVE
STUDIES CONCLUDE CAMERAS
00:15:29ACTUALLY INCREASE CRASHES AND
INJURIES, PROVIDING A SAFE
00:15:32ARGUMENT -- A SAFETY ARGUMENT
NOT, AND AGAIN I WANT TO
00:15:35REPEAT, PROVIDING A SAFETY
ARGUMENT NOT TO INSTALL THEM.
00:15:40PUBLIC POLICY SHOULD AVOID
CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THAT
00:15:43ENHANCE REVENUES FOR GOVERNMENT
AND PRIVATE ENTITIES AT THE
00:15:46RISK OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
>> BUT IN THE DEBATE ON THE
00:15:49HOUSE FLOOR, DEMOCRAT MIKE
CURTIN OF COLUMBUS SAYS THE BAN
00:15:53WAS A SIZABLE OVERCORRECTION,
IN HIS WORDS, TO ABUSES BY SOME
00:15:57SMALLER COMMUNITIES.
AND HE CITED STATS FROM POLICE
00:15:59THAT SHOW CAMERAS DO CUT DOWN
ON CRASHES AT INTERSECTIONS
00:16:02WHERE THEY'RE INSTALLED.
>> THE SOCIETAL HARM CAUSED BY
00:16:06A HEAVY-HANDED STATE GOVERNMENT
MANDATED DISABLING OF A
00:16:11TECHNOLOGY PROVEN TO IMPROVE
PUBLIC SAFETY IS PERMANENT,
00:16:16PROFOUND, AND EVEN
LIFE-SHATTERING FOR SOME OF OUR
00:16:19CONSTITUENTS.
>> SUPPORTERS AFE BAN SAY
00:16:21CAMERA PROGRAMS VIOLATE THE
PRINCIPLE OF INNOCENT UNTIL
00:16:24PROVEN GUILTY, BUT OPPONENTS
SAY THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE
00:16:27STATEWIDE REGULATION, NOT AN
OUTRIGHT BAN.
00:16:29THE BAN WAS INTRODUCED IN THE
SENATE THE DAY AFTER IT PASSED
00:16:33THE HOUSE, BUT IT HAS YET TO BE
ASSIGNED TO A COMMITTEE.
00:16:36ANOTHER POTENTIALLY SERIOUS
CRIME AND SAFETY PROBLEM COMES
00:16:38FROM OPIATE AND PRESCRIPTION
PAIN KILLERS.
00:16:41A BIPARTISAN BILL WOULD SEEK TO
STOP THAT EPIDEMIC THAT CLAIMED
00:16:451,765 OHIOANS IN 2011, AN
AVERAGE OF FIVE LIVES A DAY.
00:16:50THE NUMBER OF OHIOANS WHO DIED
OF OVERDOZES SOARED 440% FROM
00:16:571999-2011.
REPUBLICAN REPRESENTIVE TERRY
00:17:00JOHNSON OF MCDERMOTT IN
SOUTHERN OHIO IS ALSO DR.
00:17:03JOHNSON.
HE AND DEMOCRATIC REPUBLICIVE
00:17:05MIKE STINZIANO OF COLUMBUS WANT
TO ALLOW THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF
00:17:09OPIOD ADDICTS ACCESS TO A DRUG
CALLED NARCAN WHICH CAN STOP AN
00:17:15OVERDOSE ALMOST INSTANTLY AND
CANNOT BE USED TO GET HIGH.
00:17:18LAWMAKERS SAY A NASAL VERSION
OF THE DRUG USED IN EMERGENCY
00:17:21ROOMS COULD BE PLACED WITH
ADDICT' FAMILIES, WHICH IS
00:17:25ALLOWED IN NINE OTHER STATES.
LISA ROBERTS IS A NURSE IN
00:17:31SCIOTO COUNTY WHICH HAS BEEN
HARD HIT.
00:17:33>> RURAL COMMUNITIES LIKE MINE
HAVE SEEN AN EPIDEMIC OF
00:17:38PRESCRIPTION DRUG ADDICTION,
HEROIN, LEADING TO HEROIN
00:17:42ADDICTION, AND CONSEQUENTLY,
LOTS OF CONSEQUENCES THAT GO
00:17:44ALONG WITH THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE THE HIGHEST
00:17:47HEPATITIS C RATE IN THE ENTIRE
STATE OF OHIO.
00:17:49WE HAVE THE HIGHEST HOMICIDE
RATE IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF
00:17:52OHIO NOW.
AND SO, THESE ARE NEW DEFMENTS
00:17:57FOR RURAL COUNTIES LIKE MINE.
WE ARE NOT USED TO DEALING WITH
00:18:00THESE SORTS OF PROBLEMS.
>> AND ROBERTS SAYS NARCAN NOT
00:18:04ONLY HELPS LOWER THE NUMBER OF
OVERDOZE, BUT ALSO HAS BEEN
00:18:08SHOWN TO STEM THE RISING
NUMBERS OF NEW CASES OF
00:18:10HEPATITIS C.
MILES DAWSON OF SOUTHEAST OHIO
00:18:13HAD A PERSONAL STORY TO SHARE
ON WHY HE BACKS THIS IDEA.
00:18:16>> I HAD JUST GOTTEN HOME FROM
REHAB, AND MY MOM WAS COMING
00:18:20OVER TO VISIT ME, AND I HAD
RELAPSED AGAIN.
00:18:23AND SHE FOUND ME WITH MY BABY
BROTHER ON MY BED LAYING
00:18:29UNCONSCIOUS.
AND SHE HAD TO LAY THERE AND
00:18:31WAIT FOR THE PARAMEDICS TO GET
THERE AND THEN THEM TAKE ME TO
00:18:34THE HOSPITAL.
SO BY THE GRACE OF GOD, I DID
00:18:36MAKE IT THROUGH TO MAKE IT TO
THE HOSPITAL, BUT WHAT -- WHAT
00:18:41COULD HAVE BEEN MY SUCCESS RATE
IF SHE COULD HAVE JUST GIVEN TO
00:18:45ME THERE?
>> DAWSON SAYS HE OVERDOSED
00:18:48TWICE BUT KNOWING THAT A FAMILY
MEMBER HAD THE DRUG THAT COULD
00:18:52SAVE HIM WOULD NOT FREE HIM UP
TO TAKE MORE DRUGS BECAUSE HE,
00:18:55LIKE MANY ADDICTS, SAYS HE
DIDN'T THINK HE'D EVER
00:18:59OVERDOSE.
THE BILL WAS ASSIGNED TO THE
00:19:00HOUSE HEALTH AND AGING
COMMITTEE AND IS STILL WAITING
00:19:03ITS FIRST HEARING.
THERE RLS A FEW OTHER BILLS
00:19:05OUTSTANDING.
ONE WOULD ALLOW NURSING HOME
00:19:07PATIENTS THE LEGAL RIGHT TO SET
UP SURVEILLANCE EQUIPMENT TO
00:19:10PROTECT THEM FROM ABUSE OR
NEGLECT.
00:19:12ANOTHER WOULD ELIMINATE THE
PARENTAL RIGHTS TO CONVICTED
00:19:15RAPISTS REGARDING CHILDREN
CONCEIVED IN THOSE ASSAULTS.
00:19:18AND THERE ARE TWO NOTABLE
REPUBLICAN SPONSORED BILLS ON
00:19:21ELECTIONS.
ONE WOULD ELIMINATE SPECIAL
00:19:23ELECTIONS IN FEBRUARY AND
AUGUST.
00:19:25ANOTHER WOULD DRAMATICALLY CUT
BACK EARLY VOTING FROM 35 DAYS
00:19:29BEFORE THE ELECTION TO 17 DAYS
AND WOULD STOP EARLY VOTING ON
00:19:33THE WEEKEND BEFORE THE
ELECTION.
00:19:35EARLIER THIS YEAR, I TALKED
WITH TWO ELECTION LAW EXPERTS
00:19:38ABOUT CHANGES TO EARLY VOTING
IN PARTICULAR.
00:19:41DAN TOKAJI IS A PROFESSOR AND
SENIOR FELLOW IN ELECTION LAW
00:19:44AT THE MORITZ COLLEGE OF LAW AT
OHIO STATE.
00:19:47STEPHEN BROOKS IS ALSO A
PROFESSOR AND ASSOCIATE
00:19:50DIRECTOR OF THE RAY C. BLISS
INSTITUTE FOR APPLIED POLITICS
00:19:53AT THE UNIVERSITY OF AKRON.
HE JOINED US WITH THE HELP OF
00:19:56WNEO IN KENT.
>> THE BEST THING THE OHIO
00:19:59LEGISLATURE CAN DO ON EARLY
VOTING IS ACTUALLY TO STAY OUT,
00:20:02BECAUSE LAST TIME THEY PASSED
THREE DIFFERENT BILLS WHICH
00:20:05MADE A MESS OF OUR EARLY VOTING
LAWS, FORCING THE COURTS TO GET
00:20:10INVOLVED AND KEEP EARLY VOTING
OPEN THE LAST THREE DAYS BEFORE
00:20:13THE ELECTION.
THAT'S THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW,
00:20:15AND THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD
STAY.
00:20:19THERE'S NO GOOD REASON TO CUT
OFF EARLY VOTING THOSE DAYS.
00:20:23VOTERS LOVE IT, AS YOU SAID.
THEY USE IT.
00:20:26AND IT CAN HELP BOOST TURNOUT,
IF IT'S COMBINED WITH EFFORTS
00:20:30TO GET PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND
VOTE EARLY.
00:20:32IT ALSO TAKES THE PRESSURE OFF
POLLING PLACES ON ELECTION DAY,
00:20:35WHICH IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT
IN LARGE COUNTIES LIKE
00:20:40FRANKLIN, WHERE WE HAVE A LOT
OF VOTERS AND WHERE, AS WE HAD
00:20:43IN NOVEMBER OF THIS PAST YEAR,
WE HAD LONG LINES AT THE POLLS
00:20:46ON ELECTION DAY.
EARLY VOTING IS A WAY TO MAKE A
00:20:50DENT IN THOSE LINES AND MAKE
ELECTIONS WORK BETTER FOR
00:20:53EVERYONE.
THERE'S NO GOOD REASON TO
00:20:55TAMPER WITH EARLY VOTING OR TO
TAKE AWAY THOSE DAYS.
00:20:58>> STEPHEN BROOKS, YOUR
THOUGHTS?
00:21:00>> I CERTAINLY AGREE THAT THE
GOAL IS TO HAVE EARLY VOTING,
00:21:05THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE AS MANY
PEOPLE AND AS MANY OPTIONS.
00:21:12THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S
ARGUMENT, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT,
00:21:15WAS THAT HE WANTS TO HAVE
SOMEWHAT REGULAR OR SIMILAR
00:21:21VOTING PRACTICES THROUGHOUT THE
STATE.
00:21:23BUT THAT POSES A REAL PROBLEM,
AS DAN AS INDICATED, WHEN YOU
00:21:28HAVE MAJOR -- YOU HAVE LARGE
CITIES WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE
00:21:34VOTING, IT BECOMES MUCH MORE
COMPLICATED.
00:21:37AND IF YOU HAVE EXTENDED HOURS
AND OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE AT ANY
00:21:43TIME IN RURAL AREAS WHERE FEW
PEOPLE SHOW UP, IT SEEMS TO BE
00:21:47A WASTE OF TIME.
SO IT REALLY IS A BALANCE
00:21:50BETWEEN THIS ISSUE OF SHOULD
EVERYTHING BE THE SAME IN A
00:21:55STATE AS DIVERSE AS OHIO, OR
SHOULD THE VOTING PRACTICES
00:21:58REALLY BE TAILORED TO THE
POPULATION CHARACTERISTICS OF
00:22:02THE AREA.
>> LET'S LOOK NOW AT
00:22:04PROVISIONAL BALLOTS.
IN 2008, THERE WERE 80% OF
00:22:07PROVISIONAL BALLOTS THAT WERE
COUNTED.
00:22:09THIS YEAR THAT WENT UP TO 83
1/2% THAT WERE COUNTED.
00:22:12BUT THE SECRETARY OF STATE SAYS
60% OF THOSE THAT WERE NOT
00:22:17COUNTED WERE CAPPED BY PEOPLE
WHAT WHO WERE NOT REGISTERED TO
00:22:21VOTE.
BOTH OF THESE SUGGEST THERE ARE
00:22:24STILL A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS.
NUMBER ONE, TOO MANY
00:22:28UNREGISTERED PEOPLE ARE CASTING
BALLOTS.
00:22:29AND NUMBER TWO, IF YOU ARE
ASKED TO CAST A PROVISIONAL
00:22:33BALLOT, THERE IS STILL A CHANCE
YOUR BALLOT WILL NOT BE COUNTED
00:22:36FOR SOME REASON.
>> RIGHT, AND YOU KNOW, WE
00:22:38STILL HAVE A LOT OF PROVISIONAL
BALLOTS AND A LOT THAT DON'T
00:22:41GET COUNTED.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE
00:22:43NEED TO CHANGE.
A LOT OF THEM ARE REJECTED
00:22:44BECAUSE THE VOTER SHOWS UP AS
NOT REGISTERED, BUT IT MAY WELL
00:22:49BE THAT THAT VOTER TRIED TO
REGISTER BUT FOR WHATEVER
00:22:52REASON THAT REGISTRATION DIDN'T
GET TRANSMITTED OR GOT MISFILED
00:22:55OR THERE WAS SOME OTHER
ADMINISTRATIVE PROBLEM.
00:22:57WE'VE GOT TO CLEAN UP OUR VOTER
REGISTRATION SYSTEM, AND THE
00:23:00BEST WAY OF DOING THAT, AT
LEAST IN THE SHORT-TERM IS
00:23:04MOVING TO ONLINE VOTER
REGISTRATION LIKE 17 STATES
00:23:07ALREADY HAVE.
LOOK, VOTERS ARE COMING TO
00:23:10EXPECT THIS.
WE MANAGE ALL KINDS OF OTHER
00:23:13TRANSACTIONS INCLUDING COMPLEX
ONES LIKE BANKING ONLINE.
00:23:17IT'S TIME THAT OHIO MOVED INTO
THE 21ST CENTURY BY ADOPTING
00:23:23ONLINE VOTER REGISTRATION AND
YOU CAN PUT CHECKS IN PLACE TO
00:23:26MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO
VOTING FRAUD.
00:23:28TO HIS CREDIT, OUR CURRENT
SECRETARY OF STATE HAS SAID HE
00:23:33SUPPORTS THE CONCEPT OF ONLINE
VOTER REGISTRATION.
00:23:36IF THE LEGISLATURE WANTS TO
MAKE A CONSTRUCTIVE CHANGE,
00:23:39THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD MOVE
TOWARDS.
00:23:41>> STEPHEN BROOKS, WHAT DO WE
NEED TO DO ABOUT PROVISIONAL
00:23:44BALLOTS OR IS THIS SITUATION
WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE
00:23:47ACCEPTABLE?
>> CERTAINLY, WHEN YOU HAVE THE
00:23:49NEED FOR PROVISIONAL BALLOTS,
IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE
00:23:52IT'S SUGGESTING THAT
INDIVIDUALS AREN'T ABLE TO DO
00:23:58VOTING EVEN IF THEY ARE
REGISTERED.
00:24:02THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION.
THERE WAS AT LEAST UP HERE,
00:24:06THERE WAS CONFUSION BECAUSE
THEY CHANGED THE NUMBER AND
00:24:10LOCATION OF PRECINCTS.
SO THAT ALSO CAUSES PROBLEMS.
00:24:15I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE WAS A
NUMBER OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHO
00:24:20HAD TO FILL IN WHAT TO MAKE A
PROVISIONAL BALLOT ACCEPTABLE
00:24:24AND UNACCEPTABLE.
AGAIN, I THINK THE RULES NEED
00:24:27TO BE VERY CLEAR AND VERY
EARLY.
00:24:30HOWEVER, CERTAINLY POLITICAL
SCIENCE RESEARCH INDICATES THAT
00:24:37GETTING PEOPLE REGISTERED IS
VERY IMPORTANT TO GET VOTERS TO
00:24:45VOTE.
HOWEVER, IT IS DIFFICULT TO
00:24:48HAVE -- TO CONVERT THOSE
REGISTERED VOTERS INTO VOTERS.
00:24:53SO WE NEED TO MAKE THE SYSTEM
AS EASY AND SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE,
00:24:59AND, OBVIOUSLY, ONLINE VOTING
IS ONE RESPONSE.
00:25:02BUT THE REAL GOAL SHOULD BE TO
GET AS MANY PEOPLE REGISTERED
00:25:06AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN AND THEN
MAKE SURE THOSE ROLLS ARE
00:25:11EASILY ACCESSIBLE AT THE
POLLING STATION SO PEOPLE CAN
00:25:14VOTE IF THEY ARE REGISTERED.
>> AND IF I COULD ADD ONE
00:25:17THING, KAREN, IT'S THAT IN
ADDITION TO HELPING GET MORE
00:25:21PEOPLE REGISTERED, ONLINE VOTER
REGISTRATION WOULD ACTUALLY
00:25:24SAVE US MONEY.
IT'S BEEN ESTIMATED THAT FOR
00:25:27EVERY VOTER WHO REGISTERS
ONLINE RATHER THAN THROUGH THE
00:25:31OLD-FASHIONED MAILING IN PAPER
METHOD WILL SAVE $50 CENTS TO
00:25:35$1 PER VOTER.
AND THAT COULD ADD UP PRETTY
00:25:39QUICKLY.
>> OF COURSE, WE'LL BE
00:25:40FOLLOWING THESE BILLS AND MORE
IF AND WHEN THEY MOVE THROUGH
00:25:42THE LEGISLATURE.
THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
00:25:44FOR MY COLLEAGUES AT OHIO
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