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>> THE FALL BALLOT IS NEARLY IN
00:00:34PLACE, THOUGH THE CAMPAIGNS HAVE
BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE.
00:00:37AND WHILE THE STATE REVIEWS ITS
MOST RECENT AND PROBLEMATIC
00:00:40EXECUTION, THE FAMILY OF THE
INMATE SAYS HE WAS TORTURED AND
00:00:42THEY ARE SUING.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:00:45OHIO."
THE TEAMS ARE SET AND THE
00:00:56CAMPAIGN IS DEFINITELY UNDERWAY.
THE CANDIDATE FILING DEADLINE
00:01:01PASSED ON WEDNESDAY, AND AS
EXPECTED, INCUMBENT JOHN KASICH
00:01:04WAS THE ONLY CANDIDATE TO FILE
AS A REPUBLICAN RUNNING FOR
00:01:05GOVERNOR ALONG WITH HIS RUNNING
MATE, MARY TAYLOR.
00:01:08ON THE DENMARK SIDE --
DEMOCRATIC SIDE, CUYAHOGA COUNTY
00:01:15EXECUTIVE ED FITZGERALD FILED
WITH HIS LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR
00:01:17PICK SHAREN NEUHARDT.
BUT A LITTLE-KNOWN DEMOCRAT FOR
00:01:21THE DAYTON AREA ALSO FILED FOR
THE RACE.
00:01:23HOWEVER, A MONTGOMERY COUNTY
DEMOCRATIC OFFICIAL SAID LARRY
00:01:25EALY HAD PAST PROBLEMS
QUALIFYING TO RUN.
00:01:30HE IS LISTED IN GRAY AS A
RUNNING MATE.
00:01:31ALSO FILING AS GUBERNATORIAL
CANDIDATES FOR THE FALL,
00:01:35LIBERTARIAN CHARLIE EARL AND
RUNNING MATE SHERRY CLARK, AND
00:01:39GREEN PARTY CANDIDATE DENNIS
SPISAK JOINED BY SUZANNE PATZER.
00:01:41ALL THE INCUMBENTS ARE
REPUBLICANS.
00:01:45IN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S RACE,
INCUMBENT MIKE DEWINE WILL FACE
00:01:49DEMOCRAT DAVID PEPPER AND
LIBERTARIAN STEVEN LINNABARY.
00:01:51FOR AUDITOR, INCUMBENT DAVID
YOST WILL MEET DEMOCRAT
00:01:57REPRESENTATIVE JOHN CARNEY AND
LIBERTARIAN ROBERT COOGAN ON THE
00:01:59FALL BALLOT.
FOR SECRETARY OF STATE,
00:02:01INCUMBENT JOHN HUGHES DID IS
MATCH -- JON HUSTED IS
00:02:06MATCHED UP AGAINST DEMOCRAT
EXTEND OR NINA TURNER AND
00:02:09LIBERTARIAN GUARANTEED HARRIS.
FOR TREASURER, INCUMBENT JOSH
00:02:12MANDEL FACES DEMOCRATIC ARE
PRESENTED OF CONNIE PILLICH AND
00:02:16LIBERTARIAN MARC ALLEN FELDMAN.
THERE WERE ALSO FOUR CANDIDATES
00:02:21FILING FOR SUPREME COURT.
ONCE AGAIN, THE INCUMBENTS ARE
00:02:25REPUBLICANS.
INCUMBENT JUDI FRENCH WILL FACE
00:02:27TOM LAST IN, AND INCUMBENT
SHARON KENNEDY WILL BE MATCHED
00:02:29AGAINST CUYAHOGA COUNTY COMMON
PLEAS JUDGE JOHN O'DONNELL.
00:02:32THERE ARE A LOT OF OPINIONS
ABOUT THE EXECUTION OF DENNIS
00:02:37MCGUIRE LAST MONTH, BUT EVERYONE
CAN AGREE IT WAS NOT A ROUTINE
00:02:39EXECUTION.
IT WAS THE FIRST ONE ANYWHERE TO
00:02:41USE A COMBINATION OF 2 DRUGS
THAT HAD NEVER BEEN USED FOR,
00:02:47THE OPIATE HYDROMORPHONE, WHICH
HAS NEVER BEEN USED IN THE LEGAL
00:02:50INJECTION ANYWHERE BEFORE, AND
THE SEDATIVE MIDAZOLAM
00:02:54WHICH WAS USED ALONG WITH TWO
OTHER DRUGS IN AN EXECUTION IN
00:02:59FLORIDA.
WITNESSES WHO HAD SEEN MANY
00:03:02OTHER LETHAL WIN IS -- LETHAL
INJECTIONS PERFORMED REPORT THAT
00:03:05IT DIDN'T GO LIKE OTHER
EXECUTIONS HAVE IN THE PAST.
00:03:07IT TOOK 26 MINUTES FOR MCGUIRE
TO DIE AND 2 VETERAN MEDIA
00:03:11WITNESSES SAY HE APPEARED TO BE
GASPING AND CHOKING AND
00:03:17CLENCHING HIS THIS AND ARCHING
HIS BACK, WHICH ATTORNEYS WHO'D
00:03:20TRIED TO STOP THE EXECUTION SAY
WERE CONSISTENT WITH AIR HUNGER,
00:03:23A CONDITION THEY SAID WOULD
LIKELY HAPPEN WITH THE USE OF
00:03:26THESE DRUGS.
AND THEIR EXPERT SAID AIR HUNGER
00:03:28WOULD'VE CAUSED MCGUIRE AGONY
AND TERROR AS HE DIED.
00:03:30THE FAMILY OF DENNIS MCGUIRE IS
SUING, SAYING THE EXECUTION WAS
00:03:36UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
DENNIS MCGUIRE JUNIOR SAID "I
00:03:44CAN'T THINK OF ANY OTHER WAY TO
DESCRIBE IT OTHER THAN TORTURE.
00:03:45AFTER WATCHING MY DAD'S
EXECUTION, I KNOW WHAT CRUEL AND
00:03:50UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT IS.
I WITNESSED IT."
00:03:51DAYTON AREA ATTORNEY JON PAUL
RION IS REPRESENTING THE MCGUIRE
00:03:57FAMILY.
I TALKED TO HIM EARLIER IN THE
00:03:58WEEK.
PEOPLE SAY THAT HE WAS A KILLER
00:04:01AND RAPE AND CHOKED A NEWLYWED,
NEARLY EIGHT MONTHS PREGNANT,
00:04:07DUMP HER BODY IN THE WOODS AND
TRIED TO BLAME IT ON HIS
00:04:08BROTHER-IN-LAW, NEVER DENIED HE
DID IT AFTER THAT.
00:04:11THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE SAYING
THAT MCGUIRE DESERVED WHAT HE
00:04:15GOT AN EVEN STEWARDS FAMILY SAY
THAT THE STATE TREATED MCGUIRE
00:04:23MORE HUMANELY THAN THEY TREATED
JOYCE.
00:04:26>> WE REPRESENT IS A SON AND
HONOR AND EXTENDED FAMILY.
00:04:32THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.
-- WE REPRESENT HIS SON AND
00:04:35DAUGHTER AN EXTENDED FAMILY.
THEY DID DIDN'T DO ANYTHING
00:04:37WRONG.
THEY HAD TO WITNESS THEIR
00:04:39FATHER, WHOM THEY DIDN'T CHOOSE,
SUFFER IN A VERY SEVERE WAY.
00:04:43IN NO WAY IS THERE ANY
JUSTIFICATION FOR WHAT HAPPENED
00:04:47IN HIS CASE, IN WHAT HE DID.
BUT THE STATE OF OHIO IS CHARGED
00:04:54-- ISN'T CHARGE TO MIMIC THE BAD
BEHAVIOR OF OTHERS.
00:04:57WE SHOULD EXPECT MORE FROM THE
STATE THAT WE LOVE AND RESPECT
00:05:02AND THAT WE REALLY WANT TO SEE
STAND ABOVE THE ACTS THAT WE
00:05:08CONDEMN.
>> IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THE
00:05:11REALITY AND THIS IS THAT YOU
HAVE NO IDEA WHAT DENNIS MCGUIRE
00:05:14ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED THE QUEST
-- BECAUSE YOU CAN INTERVIEW
00:05:18HIM.
HOW DO YOU KNOW FOR CERTAIN THAT
00:05:23SHE SUFFERED OR THESE WEREN'T
INVOLUNTARY REACTIONS TO THE
00:05:25DRUG?
>> IT HOPEFULLY WILL COME OUT.
00:05:30THERE ARE EXPERTS IN EVERY TIME
THE BODY DOES SOMETHING, IT IS A
00:05:32SIGN.
THE NEUROLOGIST OR
00:05:36ANESTHESIOLOGIST CAN INTERPRET
THE MOVEMENTS.
00:05:37THE CLENCHING OF THIS EARLY ON
IN THE EXECUTION WOULD INDICATE
00:05:42A VOLUNTARY ACT.
THE ARCHING OF THE BACK WOULD
00:05:45INDICATE A FORM OF CONSCIOUS
REACTION TO THE INABILITY TO
00:05:51BREATHE.
THIS IS WHAT THE EXPERTS WE
00:05:55BELIEVE WILL SHOW.
IT MAY BE UP FOR DISPUTE.
00:05:58WE CAN'T ASK MR. MCGUIRE WHEN HE
WAS FEELING AND WHAT HAPPENED.
00:06:03BUT IT IS OBVIOUS THAT HE WENT
TO AT LEAST 19 MINUTES OF BODILY
00:06:07SYMPTOMS THAT ARE INTERPRETABLE
FOR SCIENCE.
00:06:11>> NOW THE STATE WITNESS WHEN
ALL THIS WAS BEING LITIGATED ON
00:06:17WHETHER THE EXECUTION WOULD GO
FORWARD WITH SAYING -- WAS
00:06:22SAYING THAT NO ONE IS ENTITLED
TO A PAIN-FREE EXECUTION.
00:06:24IF YOU EXPERIENCE PAIN, CRUEL
AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT DOESN'T
00:06:29MEAN NO PAIN.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT, EXCEPT WE
00:06:33HAVE A STATUTE IN THE STATE OF
OHIO SAYS THAT PAINLESS, QUICK
00:06:39DEATH IS WHAT IS EXPECTED.
THAT IS NOT A CAUSE OF ACTION,
00:06:43BUT A SYMBOL OF WHAT OUR
EVOLVING SENSE OF DECENCY IS.
00:06:47THAT IS WHAT OUR LEGISLATURE HAS
A KNOWLEDGE TO BE THE STANDARD
00:06:54-- HAS ACKNOWLEDGED TO BE THE
STANDARD THAT OHIO SHOULD SET
00:06:55FOR THEMSELVES.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE -- LET'S
00:06:57ASSUME THERE IS A CONTINUUM.
YOU HAVE A CONTINUUM FROM
00:06:59COMPLETE TORTURE TO ZERO POINT
-- TO ZERO PAIN.
00:07:07SOMEWHERE IN THE CONTINUUM YOU
CROSS OVER INTO CRUEL AND
00:07:13UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT.
WE BELIEVE THAT IF YOU STRAP
00:07:16SOMEONE TO A TABLE, DEPRIVE THEM
OF OXYGEN FOR 19 MINUTES IN
00:07:19FRONT OF THEIR FAMILY AND THE
STATE, AND ESSENTIALLY WATCH
00:07:22THEM SLOWLY DIE, THAT WOULD BE
TOWARDS THE CRUEL AND UNUSUAL
00:07:30PART OF THE SPECTRUM AS OPPOSED
TO THE EXPECTATION THAT --
00:07:32DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PERFECT, BUT
IT SHOULD GIVE THE SEASON.
00:07:35PRESSURE SHOULD BE AT LEAST
DECENT.
00:07:39> -- BUT IT SHOULD BE AT LEAST
DECENT.
00:07:42>> WHAT DO DENNIS MCGUIRE'S,
HOPE TO ACHIEVE?
00:07:46>> THEY WANT THIS TO STOP.
THEY DON'T WANT THIS PROCEDURE
00:07:52TO BE USED ON ANY OTHER PERSON.
THAT IS THEIR GOAL.
00:07:53IF THEY ACHIEVE THE GOAL, WE ARE
DONE, THE LAWSUIT IS OVER.
00:07:56>> IF THEY DON'T, WHAT HAPPENS
GOING FORWARD?
00:07:59>> THEY WILL KEEP FIGHTING TO
MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.
00:08:03PART OF THE LAWSUIT IS DEALING
WITH THE CONSTITUTIONALITY.
00:08:07SINCE THE STATE WAS ON NOTICE,
THIS COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN.
00:08:09THE DEFENSE EXPERTS LAID IT OUT
IN GREAT DETAIL.
00:08:13THEN THE STATE COULD ARGUABLY
HAVE BEEN RECKLESS IN GOING
00:08:16FORWARD.
THEY DISREGARDED A KNOWN RISK BY
00:08:18ACTING IN THIS WAY.
THAT ALSO INVOLVED ARE THE
00:08:25PHARMACEUTICAL -- BUT ALSO
INVOLVED IN THIS ARE THE
00:08:27PHARMACEUTICAL COUNTRIES.
THE SECOND PART DEALS WITH
00:08:32WHETHER A PHARMACEUTICAL
COMMITTEE CAN SELL A DRUG THAT
00:08:33THEY MAY KNOW IS GOING TO BE
USED IN EXECUTION WHEN THE DRUG
00:08:36HAS NOT BEEN ABUSED -- WHEN THE
DRUG HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY
00:08:42THE FDA FOR THE PURPOSE NOR ANY
CLINICAL TESTS PERFORMED BY THE
00:08:44COMPANY DUE TO DETERMINE THE
EFFECT IT WOULD HAVE IN REAL
00:08:45LIFE.
>> IS THERE ANY MONEY AT STAKE
00:08:49FOR THE FAMILY?
>> THAT IS NOT THEIR PRIMARY
00:08:56FOCUS, AND IF WE CAN ACHIEVE
THIS OTHERWISE, THEY DON'T WANT
00:08:58A PENNY.
IT IS NOT ABOUT MONEY, PERIOD.
00:09:01>> THERE WERE SOME REPORTS THAT
PRISON RECORDS WERE SHOWN THAT
00:09:08MCGUIRE TOLD THE CORRECTIONS
OFFICER THAT HE WAS COACHED BY A
00:09:10PUBLIC DEFENDER TO PUT ON A BIG
SHOW, MEANING THAT HE WAS
00:09:12COACHED TO FIX IT AND THAT SHE
WAS COACHED TO TAKE SYMPTOMS OF
00:09:17-- THAT HE WAS COACHED TO FAKE
SYMPTOMS OF SUFFOCATION.
00:09:21YOU WOULDN'T THAT SHE SAID HE
WOULDN'T DO THAT -- HE SAID HE
00:09:26WOULDN'T DO THAT.
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE
00:09:28ALLEGATIONS?
>> I CAN TELL YOU THAT DENNIS
00:09:32MCGUIRE THE FATHER SUBSTITUTED
HIS SON IN FOR THE PUBLIC
00:09:36DEFENDER.
HE WANTED HIS FAMILY TO BE THERE
00:09:39AND ALL HIS FAMILY.
MY UNDERSTANDING, OF ALL THAT
00:09:42HAD BEEN REQUESTED, WAS THAT
DENNIS KEEP HIS THUMB UP TO
00:09:48INDICATE SOME FORM OF
CONSCIOUSNESS AS LONG AS HE
00:09:50COULD SO THAT THERE WOULD BE A
RECORD.
00:09:51IT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
THE FATHER SAID "THIS IS MY LAST
00:09:57MOMENT, I DON'T WANT A LOT LAW
TO BE INVOLVED ANYMORE IN ANY
00:09:59WAY COULD I WANT TO SPEND THESE
LAST WITH MY FAMILY, PERIOD."
00:10:05HE ELECTED NOT TO EVEN PUT HIS
THUMB UP TO INDICATE YES OR NO
00:10:12THAT HE HAD CONSCIOUSNESS.
AS YOU SAY GOODBYE TO HIS
00:10:14FAMILY, HE IS WAITING WITH HIS
LEFT HAND -- AS HE SAID GOODBYE
00:10:18TO HIS FAMILY, HE IS WAVING WITH
HIS LEFT HAND AND DID NOTHING
00:10:22THAT HIS EMPLOYER TALK TO THEM
ABOUT.
00:10:23THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE
EXTENT OF IT.
00:10:24I THINK IT WAS JUST A DEBATE ON
WHETHER OR NOT HE WANTED TO
00:10:29SPEND HIS LAST MINUTES WITH HIS
FAMILY OR SOME OUT GIVE SOME
00:10:32TYPE OF REACTION TO HIS LAWYERS
AND OTHERS.
00:10:36I THINK THAT WAS HIS CHOICE.
HE CHOSE TO SEND THE GUY WITH
00:10:42HIS FAMILY.
>> LET ME ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT
00:10:48YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE DEATH
PENALTY.
00:10:49YOU ARE ON A TASK FORCE THAT IS
INVESTIGATING THE DEATH PENALTY.
00:10:51IT IS LOOKING INTO SOME
SPECIFICS ABOUT THE DEATH
00:10:54PENALTY.
YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THIS LAWSUIT
00:10:55AND IT LOCATION I READ OF -- AND
A QUOTATION I READ OF YOU SAYING
00:11:02THAT MOST CIVILIZED COUNTRIES DO
NOT EXECUTE PEOPLE, THAT SUGGEST
00:11:04THAT YOU COMING TO THIS TASK
FORCE WITH A CERTAIN OPINION
00:11:07ABOUT THE DEATH PENALTY.
>> I HAVE TRIED MULTIPLE DEATH
00:11:09PENALTY CASES.
RECENTLY, EVEN JUST YESTERDAY,
00:11:15WE FOUND THERE WERE OVER 80
EXONERATIONS JUST LAST YEAR IN
00:11:17THE UNITED STATES.
WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE MAKE
00:11:22MISTAKES.
THE ONE THING I DON'T THINK
00:11:24GOVERNMENT SHOULD EVER DO IS
MAKE THE MISTAKE IN TAKING
00:11:25INNOCENT LIFE.
THAT IS A POSSIBILITY WE CAN'T
00:11:28IGNORE.
THE TASK FORCE WAS GIVEN A VERY
00:11:31CLEAR MANDATE TO SIMPLY LOOK AT
WAYS TO MAKE THE DEATH PENALTY
00:11:39MORE FAIR.
WE WERE NOT TO DISCUSS ABOLITION
00:11:42IN ANY FORM, AND WE'VE STUCK TO
THAT VERY CLEARLY.
00:11:44OUR RECOMMENDATIONS REALLY GO
MORE TO THE SYSTEM ITSELF, NOT
00:11:51QUESTIONING ABOLITION THROUGH
THAT.
00:11:53>> THERE IS ANOTHER EXECUTION
SCHEDULED NEXT MONTH, AND
00:11:58ATTORNEYS FOR THAT INMATE,
GREGORY LOTT, HAVE ASKED A JUDGE
00:12:02TO STOP THAT EXECUTION FOR WHAT
THEY FEAR -- FOR FEAR OF WHAT
00:12:06THEY CALL LINGERING DEATH.
JUST THIS WEEK, LOUISIANA WAS
00:12:11ORDERED TO DELAY AN EXECUTION IN
WHICH THOSE 2 DRUGS WERE GOING
00:12:13TO BE USED THERE.
AN INITIAL REVIEW BY THE OHIO
00:12:17DEPARTMENT OF REHABILITATION AND
CORRECTION FOUND NO REASON TO
00:12:20CHANGE THE DRUGS USED IN LETHAL
INJECTION, BUT THE AGENCY IS
00:12:24ALSO PLANNING A LONGER STUDY OF
THE EXECUTION.
00:12:26THIS WEEK, THE CANDIDATES MADE
THEIR CAMPAIGNS OFFICIAL, BUT
00:12:29LAST WEEK, THEY FILED THEIR
CAMPAIGN FINANCE PAYMENTS FOR
00:12:32THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
JOHN KASICH COMES INTO THE 2014
00:12:35RACE WITH A RECORD $8 MILLION IN
THE BANK, HAVING RAISED NEARLY
00:12:42$4.5 MILLION IN THE LAST SIX
MONTHS.
00:12:43ED FITZGERALD RAISED MORE THAN
$1.6 MILLION, AND HAS OVER $1.4
00:12:47MILLION IN THE BANK.
AMONG THE CANDIDATES FOR THE
00:12:52FIVE EXECUTIVE OFFICES,
REPUBLICANS OUTRAISED DEMOCRATS
00:12:55IN THE RACES FOR THE WINNER,
SECRETARY OF STATE, AND FOR
00:12:57TREASURER.
BUT THE DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGERS
00:13:01FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL AND AUDITOR
OUTPACED THE INCUMBENT
00:13:03REPUBLICANS TRADE THOUGH THE
REPUBLICANS STILL HAVE MORE CASH
00:13:05ON HAND.
HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE 2014
00:13:08CAMPAIGNS ARE 2 FAMILIAR GUESTS,
DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST SANDY
00:13:11THEIS AND REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST
MARK WEAVER.
00:13:15LET'S START AT THE TOP OF THE
TICKET HERE.
00:13:18WE HAVE THE FILINGS OF ED
FITZGERALD, DEMOCRATIC
00:13:22CANDIDATE, AND JOHN KASICH,
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.
00:13:24THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT MONEY CAP
, 5-1 FAVORING THE GOVERNOR.
00:13:28I WANT TO ASK YOU BOTH A GENERAL
QUESTION, IS THE RACE OVER OR IS
00:13:34IT A TEMPORARY SETBACK THAT ED
FITZGERALD WILL RECOVER FROM?
00:13:35>> GOD NO, IS NOT OVER.
THE INCUMBENT ALWAYS HAS A
00:13:42FUND-RAISING ADVANTAGE.
EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF VOTERS
00:13:44DON'T KNOW WHO ED FITZGERALD IS,
HE IS ONLY 2 POINTS BEHIND JOHN
00:13:48KASICH.
ONCE PEOPLE GET TO KNOW ABOUT
00:13:51JOHN KASICH AND HIS TERRIBLE
RECORD, THE RACE IS GOING TO BE
00:13:54EVEN MORE COMPETITIVE AND
FITZGERALD HAS A LOT OF
00:13:56ADVANTAGES BECAUSE THE ECONOMY
IS BAD AND THE GENDER GAP WE ARE
00:13:58GOING TO SEE.
>> LET ME ASK YOU, MARK, SAME
00:14:02QUESTION.
>> TERRIBLE ROLLOUT FOR IT
00:14:04FITZGERALD.
HE NOMINATED FOR LIEUTENANT
00:14:10GOVERNOR SOMEONE MIRED IN
SCANDAL WHO DID NOT PAY TAXES.
00:14:11HE WENT ON TO FACE NEARLY A
PRIMARY CHALLENGE FROM A
00:14:14DEMOCRAT WHO POINTED OUT THAT
MR. FITZGERALD HAS WEAKNESS WITH
00:14:18THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN BASE HE
HAD TO NAME A LIEUTENANT
00:14:22GOVERNOR CANDIDATE FROM THE FAR
LEFT OF HIS PARTY.
00:14:25THAT AND WEAK FUNDRAISING MEANS
HE IS IN FOR A ROUGH YEAR.
00:14:27>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE
THINGS YOU BOTH MENTIONED.
00:14:32LET'S TALK ABOUT THE WOMEN'S
VOTE.
00:14:34IT IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL.
IT USUALLY IS IN OHIO.
00:14:36MARK, THE IDEA THAT THERE IS A
WOMAN ON BOTH TICKETS NOW, THIS
00:14:41NOMINATION OF SHARON NEUHARDT AS
ED FITZGERALD'S RUNNING MATE
00:14:46BRINGS FORWARD AN ISSUE THAT THE
DEMOCRATS HAVE TALKED ABOUT A
00:14:49LOT, THE SO-CALLED WAR ON WOMEN.
HOW DO YOU THINK HIS CANDIDACY
00:14:52IS GOING TO BE ON BOTH SIDES
WITH REGARD TO THE WOMEN'S VOTE?
00:14:53>> WOMEN IN OHIO, LIKE MEN, CARE
ABOUT ONE THING, THE ECONOMIC
00:14:59PROBLEMS OUR COUNTRY AND STATE
FACES.
00:15:02ALTHOUGH THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES
W BROUGHT UP, IF THE CANDIDATES
00:15:05ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT HOW TO
BRING JOBS TO OHIO, THEY WILL
00:15:09LOSE MEN AND WOMEN.
THAT IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE.
00:15:10THE GENDER GAP HAS PLACED BOTH
PARTIES FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS
00:15:14AND HAS A REVERSE IMPACT, WHICH
IS THAT DEMOCRAT HAVE HIGHER
00:15:19VOTES WITH WOMEN AND REPUBLICANS
GET HIGHER VOTES WITH MEN.
00:15:21I WILL EVEN ITSELF OUT AND THIS
WILL BE ABOUT JOBS.
00:15:24-- THAT WILL EVEN ITSELF OUT AND
THIS WILL BE ABOUT JOBS.
00:15:27>> WHAT ABOUT THE ISSUES -- I
WAS STANDING ABOUT THIS -- ABOUT
00:15:31THE ANTIABORTION ISSUES -- I
WILL ASK STANLEY ABOUT THIS --
00:15:34ABOUT THE ANTIABORTION ISSUES IN
THE BUDGET.
00:15:36>> WOMEN VOTERS DON'T WANT TO
SEE ABORTIONS AFTER THE 20TH
00:15:40WEEK AND IF ED FITZGERALD WANTS
TO MAKE HIS CAMPAIGN ABOUT
00:15:46MAKING ABORTIONS AVAILABLE UNTIL
THE LAST SECOND, HE WILL LOSE
00:15:48MOST OF THE MIDDLE, ALL OF THE
RIGHT, AND SOME FOLKS ON THE
00:15:51LEFT.
IT WILL BE SMART IF YOU TALK
00:15:53ABOUT JOBS.
>> IT IS GOING TO BE ABOUT JOBS,
00:15:59AND WHAT JOHN KASICH HAS DONE IS
REVERSED THE RECOVERY THAT BEGAN
00:16:00UNDER TED STRICKLAND.
AN INDEPENDENT STUDY UNDER LAST
00:16:03YEAR SHOW THAT OHIO IS 46 OUT OF
THE 50 STATES IN JOB CREATION.
00:16:06THAT IS TERRIBLE.
JOBS OHIO IS A FAILURE.
00:16:08HE HAS DONE THINGS LIKE SPEND
$250,000 TO PAY THE PARKING LOT
00:16:12AT PROCTER & GAMBLE AND PAY BOB
EVANS TO MOVE FROM COLUMBUS TO
00:16:17NEW ALBANY WITHIN THE SAME
COUNTY.
00:16:21HE IS REWARDING HIS FRIENDS WITH
IT, AND THE ECONOMIC PROBLEMS IN
00:16:26OHIO HAVE GOTTEN WORSE UNDER
JOHN KASICH.
00:16:27I THINK THIS WAR ON WOMEN AS AN
ECONOMIC FOCUS AS WELL.
00:16:30EVEN DURING THE GREAT RECESSION
THE ONLY SEGMENT OF OUR ECONOMY
00:16:35THAT GREW AS HEALTH CARE.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO STACK THE
00:16:37MEDICAL BOARD WITH EXTREMISTS
AND YOU ARE GOING TO HURT OHIO
00:16:42POSSIBILITY TO DO PROPER MEDICAL
RESEARCH WITH SOME OF THESE
00:16:44SOCIAL -- OHIO'S ABILITY TO DO
PROPER MEDICAL RESEARCH WITH
00:16:51SOME OF THE SOCIAL ENGINEERING
THINGS, IT WILL HURT OHIO.
00:16:52>> DO YOU THINK THE ISSUE OF
ABORTION IS GOING TO BE A BIG
00:16:56ISSUE --
>> I DO AND I'M SICK OF PEOPLE
00:16:59LIKE MARK SAYING THAT WE WILL
HAVE ABORTIONS UNTIL THE VERY
00:17:05END.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT
00:17:06CONSTITUTIONALLY.
NARAL DOESN'T SUPPORT ABORTION
00:17:10ON DEMAND.
WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO DO, WHAT THE
00:17:12DEMOCRATIC TICKET WANTS TO DO,
THEY WANT TO KEEP ABORTION SAFE,
00:17:17LEGAL, AND RARE.
>> MOVING ON THE TICKET, WE HAVE
00:17:23SEVERAL CANDIDATES ON BOTH SIDES
WHO HAVE APPEARED TO BE STRONG.
00:17:25WE HAD 2 DEMOCRATS AND THE LAST
CYCLE, JOHN CARNEY AND DAVID
00:17:30PEPPER, OUTRAISED THE
REPUBLICAN INCUMBENTS, DAVID
00:17:35YOST AND MIKE DEWINE, A
WELL-KNOWN CANDIDATE IN OHIO.
00:17:37HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN AND WHAT
DOES IT SAY ABOUT THE STRENGTH
00:17:40OF THOSE CANDIDATES?
>> OUT RAISING ANYONE PRESENT IN
00:17:45ANY ONE FINANCIAL QUARTER IS NOT
MUCH OF A FEED.
00:17:49IT IS HOW MUCH MONEY YOU RAISE
OVER THE LONG HAUL OR HOW MUCH
00:17:51YOU HAVE ON HAND.
ALL OF THE REPUBLICAN STATEWIDE
00:17:55OFFICEHOLDERS HAVE MORE MONEY ON
HAND AND BETTER NAME
00:17:59IDENTIFICATION AND A BETTER
RECORD OF DOING WHAT THEY SAID
00:18:01THEY WOULD DO WHEN THEY RAN IN
2010.
00:18:02THOSE FACTORS ALONE MEANS THIS
WILL BE ANOTHER REPUBLICAN SWEEP
00:18:08YOUR AND REPUBLICANS WILL HOLD
EVERY STATEWIDE OFFICE.
00:18:09>> I THINK DAVID PEPPER IS A
SUBSTANTIAL CANDIDATE AND WHAT
00:18:13WE HAVE SEEN IS A NEWSPAPER
REPORT THAT RAISES SERIOUS
00:18:14QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT
MY DOING -- MIKE DEWINE AS
00:18:19ATTORNEY GENERAL HIRED OUTSIDE
LAWYERS BASED ON CAMPAIGN
00:18:22CONTRIBUTIONS.
I THINK THE STORY WAS WELL
00:18:25DOCUMENTED.
I DON'T I'VE EVER SEEN A PROCESS
00:18:28WHERE SOMEBODY GAVE AND GOT AS
FREQUENTLY OR AS WELL-DOCUMENTED
00:18:31AS THIS.
I THINK A SCANDAL IS ERUPTING IN
00:18:33THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S RACE.
DAVID YOST IS A HEADHUNTER WHO
00:18:37IS MAKING LOTS OF PAY ABOUT --
MAKING LOTS OF PAY ABOUT
00:18:42INVESTIGATING COLUMBUS SCHOOL
IS.
00:18:43I HOPE HE DOES THE SAME THING
FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS.
00:18:45MANY CHARTER SCHOOLS IN OHIO,
NOT ALL OF THEM, THEY ARE
00:18:50FOR-PROFIT SCHOOLS AND THE CEO'S
HAVE BEEN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
00:18:55AND THE PERFORMANCE STINKS.
IF WE REALLY THINK WE SHOULD
00:18:56HAVE CHOICES FOR --
FAILING PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WE
00:19:01SHOULD NOT MAKE HIM FAILING
CHARTER SCHOOLS.
00:19:03>> A FEW YEARS AGO WITH BETTY
MONTGOMERY, THIS WHOLE PAY TO
00:19:08PLAY SCANDAL THAT "DAYTON DAILY
NEWS" WAS REPORTING ABOUT MIKE
00:19:13DEWINE, HOW ARE YOU READING
THAT?
00:19:14>> EVERY ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS
HAD AN ARTICLE WRITTEN BY SOME
00:19:20NEWSPAPER IN THE STATE LINES UP
WHO GAVE AND YOU GOT AND NO ONE
00:19:24HAS EVER BEEN ABLE TO MAKE A
CONNECTION THAT MIKE DEWINE GAVE
00:19:27WORK TO PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY
DONATED.
00:19:28THERE WERE TOWNSPEOPLE WHO
DONATED AND GOT NO WORK AND
00:19:32THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE WHO GOT
WORK TO DIDN'T DONATE.
00:19:36MIKE DEWINE IT'S BEEN AROUND A
WHILE FOR A LONG TIME.
00:19:38THE ONE THING THEY KNOW ABOUT
HIM, HE IS HONEST.
00:19:40>> SPOT TO WHAT SHE IS --
RESPOND TO WHAT SHE IS SAYING
00:19:45ABOUT CHARTER SCHOOLS.
>> PARENTS WANT TO BE ABLE TO
00:19:47CHOOSE THE BEST LEARNING
ENVIRONMENT FOR THE CHILDREN AND
00:19:52THEY DON'T WANT POLITICIANS
TELLING THEM WHERE TO SEND THEIR
00:19:54KIDS AND THEY DON'T WANT
TEACHERS UNIONS SELLING THEM
00:19:56WHERE DO SEND THEIR KIDS.
CHARTER SCHOOLS WILL BE SHUT
00:19:58DOWN BECAUSE THERE IS A PROCESS
TO SHUT THEM DOWN.
00:20:01HOW DO WE SHUT DOWN THESE
INNER-CITY PUBLIC SCHOOLS THAT
00:20:05ARE NOT ONLY FAILING CHILDREN
BUT ARE PUTTING THEM IN DANGER
00:20:06EVERY DAY?
>> IS DAVID YOST DOING ENOUGH
00:20:11WITH CHARTER SCHOOLS OR IS THAT
NOT HIS FOCUS?
00:20:12>> HE HAS BEEN AGGRESSIVE ACROSS
THE BOARD FOR ALL THE PLACES YOU
00:20:17CAN AUDIT AND HAS ONE EDITORIAL
A CLAIM FOR ALL THE WORK HE HAS
00:20:19DONE WITH SCHOOLS WERE CRIMES
WERE COMMITTED.
00:20:23AS A RESULT DAVID YOST WILL WIN
REELECTION HANDILY.
00:20:24>> THE HEAD OF THE SCHOOLS HAS
MADE $100 MILLION AND THEY ABOUT
00:20:3335% ACTUATION RATE.
I'M WITH YOU, MARK, IF THE
00:20:37CHARTER SCHOOLS AN HOPE
THAT SCHOOLS AREN'T WORKING
00:20:43LET'S FIND AN ALTERNATIVE THAT
DOES WORK.
00:20:44AND HIS PEOPLE HEAVING GOT TO
LIKE THE REFORM LEGISLATION THAT
00:20:49HAS BECOME STATE LAW.
>> THESE SCHOOLS ARE TAKING KIDS
00:20:54THAT FAILED AND FAILING PUBLIC
SCHOOLS, THE WORST OF THE WORST
00:20:56KIDS NEED THE MOST HELP, AND
PUTTING THEM AGAINST THE
00:21:00BENCHMARK OF WHAT IS HAPPENING
IN SCHOOLS THAT ARE PERFORMING
00:21:02IS REALLY UNFAIR.
THE ULTIMATE CHOICE SHOULD BE
00:21:06THE PARENTS.
IF THE PARENT THINKS THEIR CHILD
00:21:09IS NOT LEARNING OR GETTING A
GOOD EDUCATION, THEY GET TO MOVE
00:21:11WITH THEIR FEET AND GO SOMEWHERE
ELSE.
00:21:13>> LET'S MOVE DOWN THE TICKET
EVEN FURTHER.
00:21:16HALF THE OHIO SENATE.
WE HAVE 2 SUPREME COURT
00:21:20CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT, TWO.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
00:21:24LEGISLATURE.
IT IS NOT APPEAR THE LEGISLATURE
00:21:26IS GOING TO CHANGE IN TERMS OF
BALANCE.
00:21:27IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS GOING TO
STAY IN REPUBLICAN HANDS IN THE
00:21:30SENATE, MOST LIKELY REPUBLICAN
HANDS AND THAT WAS.
00:21:31-- MOST LIKELY REPUBLICAN HANDS
IN THE HOUSE.
00:21:34>> IT IS TOO EARLY TO TELL ABOUT
THE HOUSE.
00:21:38A LOT OF FLUIDITY IN THOSE
RACES.
00:21:39IT REALLY IS EARLY.
A LOT OF THOSE RACES ARE
00:21:42DICTATED BY LOCAL ISSUES.
IT IS GOING TO BE A WHILE BEFORE
00:21:46WE SEE SOME OF THOSE LOCAL
ISSUES BUBBLE UP.
00:21:47BUT THE ECONOMY WILL BE A BIG
ISSUE.
00:21:49>> DO YOU THINK THE REPUBLICANS
ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN A SUPER
00:21:54MAJORITY OR IS THERE A
DEMOCRATIC THREAT?
00:21:55>> THE SENATE IS GOING TO BE IN
REPUBLICAN HANDS FOR A LONG
00:22:00TIME.
THE HOUSE I THINK WILL SAY
00:22:02REPUBLICAN, ALTHOUGH YOU NEVER
KNOW.
00:22:03THERE IS A LONG WAY AWAY BETWEEN
NOW AND NOVEMBER, BUT I DO THINK
00:22:08REPUBLICANS WILL KEEP THE HOUSE.
>> IF THERE IS A REDISTRICTING
00:22:12BALLOT ISSUE THIS FALL, COULD IT
HURT REPUBLICANS?
00:22:15>> I DON'T THINK SO.
THE STANDARDBEARER ON THIS ISSUE
00:22:19IS SECRETARY OF STATE JON
HUSTED, AND HE IS THE ONE WHO
00:22:24EXTENDED THE OLIVE BRANCH TO
DEMOCRATS YEARS AGO SAYING LET'S
00:22:27TAKE THE POLITICS OUT.
DEMOCRATS SAID NO.
00:22:28HE ONCE AGAIN IS OFFERING TO
LEAD THE EFFORT TO MAKE THIS
00:22:33MORE HAIRCUT -- MAKE THIS MORE
FAIR, AND HE WILL BE A
00:22:38STANDARDBEARER ON THAT ISSUE.
>> OF DOCUMENTS FOR A
00:22:42REDISTRICTING PLAN, IT WOULD
COME OUT HOW LOPSIDED THOSE
00:22:44VOTES HAVE BEEN FOR REPUBLICANS
AND HOW THE DISTRICTS HAVE LINED
00:22:47UP, RIGHT?
>> PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO AGREE
00:22:56WITH THE NOTION THAT IF YOU
DON'T HAVE PARTISAN STRONG THE
00:22:58LINE, YOU WILL GET A DIFFERENT
RESULT THAN WHEN YOU DO HAVE
00:22:59PARTISANS DRAWING THE LINE.
>> THOSE PARTIES HAVE
00:23:05BLACK-EYES ON THIS ONE.
THERE'S THE POTENTIAL SAME-SEX
00:23:13MARRIAGE ISSUE THAT COULD BE ON
THE BALLOT THIS FALL.
00:23:16IF THE ISSUE GETS TO THE BALLOT,
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO BE
00:23:20THE IMPACT?
>> I THINK IT WILL HELP THE ROOT
00:23:25-- HELP THE DEMOCRATS JUST LOOK
AT HELP REPUBLICANS IN 2004 --
00:23:34JUST LIKE IT HELPED THE
REPUBLICANS IN 2004.
00:23:36I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A STRONG
EDUCATION CAMPAIGN SINCE THEN
00:23:40AND WE'VE SEEN REPUBLICANS LIKE
ROB PORTMAN AND WE WILL SEE MORE
00:23:43OF THAT.
PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE
00:23:45WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY.
IF YOU WANT TO BE ON THE WRONG
00:23:48SIDE OF HISTORY, YOU ARE GOING
TO CONTINUE TO BE A BIGOT AND
00:23:56NOT LET PEOPLE MARRY THE ONE
THEY LOVE.
00:23:57>> WHAT WOULD BE THE EFFECT OF
VERY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS
00:24:01RUNNING FOR OFFICE --
>> IF SANDY IS RIGHT THAT YOU
00:24:06ARE A BIGOT IF YOU BELIEVE IN
TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE THAN BARACK
00:24:08OBAMA WAS A BIGOT FOR MOST OF
HIS CAREER.
00:24:11>> HE ALSO EVOLVED, WASN'T IT
NICE?
00:24:14>> THIS ELECTION WILL NOT BEFALL
ON THE ISSUE, IT WILL BE FOUGHT
00:24:20ON THE ECONOMY.
>> SPEAKING OF THE ECONOMY, TEA
00:24:25PARTY ACTIVISTS HAVE TALKED
ABOUT A SO-CALLED RIGHT TO WORK
00:24:27AMENDMENT ON THE BALLOT.
IF THAT IS ON THE BALLOT, GIVEN
00:24:30WHAT HAPPENED WITH SENATE BILL
FIVE, WHAT WILL BE THE EFFECT?
00:24:32>> THERE ARE STRONG POSITIONS --
THE UNIONS SUPPORTED AND A LOT
00:24:38ON THE RIGHT -- UNIONS OPPOSED
THE RIGHT WORK AND A LOT OF
00:24:44UNIONS SUPPORTED AND YOU WILL
SEE THE FULL STRENGTH TURNOUT IF
00:24:48IT MAKES THE BALLOT.
>> THE REASON REPUBLICANS SAY IT
00:24:52IS NOT THE TIME FOR RIGHT WORK
IS THEY WANT TO GET TO THE NEXT
00:24:54ELECTION CYCLE.
1958 LIKE TODAY, THE PUBLICANS
00:24:56HAD EVERYTHING.
THE RIGHT TO WORK MEASURE WHEN
00:25:01ON THE BALLOT AND REPUBLICANS
LOST EVERY THING.
00:25:02ALMOST THE SAME MARGIN WE SAW IN
1958 WITH REGULAR TOM WE SAW
00:25:06WHEN VOTERS OVERTURNED THE BILL
ON COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.
00:25:09THE VOTERS IN OHIO ARE PRACTICAL
AND FAIR AND I THINK THAT IF
00:25:16RIGHT TO WORK WERE ON THE
BALLOT, IT WOULD HURT
00:25:18REPUBLICANS.
WHAT I THINK WILL HAPPEN IS THAT
00:25:19REGARDLESS OF WHO WINS CONTROL
ORDER WITH THE GOVERNOR'S RACE,
00:25:24YOU WILL SEE THAT AFTER THE
ELECTION.
00:25:25>> WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO.
THE RACE IS NOT OVER.
00:25:28ALL RIGHT.
>> SEE YOU IN NOVEMBER.
00:25:31>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
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