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KAREN: JOHN KASICH GETS READY
00:00:34FOR ONE OF THE BIGGEST DAYS OF
HIS POLITICAL CAREER -- HIS
00:00:36SECOND ANNOUNCEMENT THAT HE'S
RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
00:00:40AND SCHOOL FUNDING ONCE AGAIN
DOMINATED DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE
00:00:42STATE BUDGET.
NOW THAT THE SPENDING PLAN IS IN
00:00:45PLACE, WHICH DISTRICTS WERE THE
WINNERS AND THE LOSERS, AND WHY?
00:00:50ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO."
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00:00:56?
KAREN: GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH IS
00:01:05MAKING HIS WAY BACK TO OHIO
BEFORE HIS BIG ANNOUNCEMENT NEXT
00:01:06WEEK, AND AFTER THE LAUNCH OF
HIS FIRST TV AD OF HIS
00:01:09SOON-TO-BE OFFICIAL PRESIDENTIAL
CAMPAIGN.
00:01:11HE WAS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AT THE
BEGINNING OF THIS WEEK, AFTER
00:01:14SPENDING LAST WEEK IN TENNESSEE,
SOUTH CAROLINA AND WASHINGTON,
00:01:23D.C.
AND THEN THERE'S THE AD --
00:01:30>> WHAT ABOUT US?
>> MY DAD CARRIED MAIL ON HIS
00:01:38BACK.
HE LOOKED OUT FOR EVERYONE IN
00:01:45HIS NEIGHBORHOODS.
I LEARNED SOMETHING FROM MY
00:01:46FATHER.
YOUR BEST TO LOOK OUT FOR OTHER
00:01:47PEOPLE.
WE TURNED OHIO AROUND, WE
00:01:54CREATED JOBS AND CUT TAXES AND
BALANCED BUDGETS.
00:01:55I SPENT 18 YEARS ON THE ARMED
SERVICES COMMITTEE WITH SOME OF
00:02:01THE FINEST DEFENSE MINES IN THE
WORLD.
00:02:02I WAS ONE OF THE CHIEF
ARCHITECTS OF BALANCING THE
00:02:07BUDGET THE FIRST TIME WE DID HIS
MAN WALKED ON THE BOON AND WE
00:02:09HAVE NOT DONE IT SINCE.
IT CAN HAPPEN AGAIN.
00:02:12>> JOHN KASICH IS FOR US.
>> NEW DAY FOR AMERICA IS
00:02:21RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONTENTS OF
THIS ADVERTISING.
00:02:22KAREN: KASICH WAS THE FIRST TO
BUY TV ADS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE,
00:02:24WHICH WILL BE THE FIRST STATE TO
VOTE IN THE 2016 REPUBLICAN
00:02:26PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY.
IT MAY SEEM LIKE AN UNUSUAL
00:02:30STRATEGY, TO BE THE ONLY
CANDIDATE ON THE AIR SO FAR IN
00:02:32ADVANCE OF NEXT YEAR'S PRIMARY.
BUT KASICH'S NEW DAY FOR
00:02:36AMERICA, THE GROUP SUPPORTING
HIS PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN
00:02:39EXPLORATION, HAS RAISED $11.5
MILLION, ALL OF WHICH MUST BE
00:02:43SPENT BEFORE HIS FORMAL CAMPAIGN
ANNOUNCEMENT JULY 21.
00:02:49MORE ADS ARE EXPECTED.
AND KASICH DOESN'T PLAN TO HANG
00:02:52AROUND LONG AFTER HIS
ANNOUNCEMENT NEXT WEEK.
00:02:56A FEW HOURS AFTER HIS OFFICIAL
LAUNCH, HE'LL BE BACK IN NEW
00:02:58HAMPSHIRE FOR THREE DAYS OF TOWN
HALL MEETINGS STARTING AT 5:30PM
00:03:03ON TUESDAY.
THE REPUBLICAN FIELD NOW NUMBERS
00:03:0915, WITH THE ADDITION OF
WISCONSIN GOVERNOR SCOTT WALKER
00:03:10THIS WEEK.
KASICH, AT NUMBER 16, MAY HAVE
00:03:14HOPED TO BE THE LAST ONE IN THE
POOL WITH HIS OFFICIAL LAUNCH
00:03:20THIS COMING TUESDAY, BUT FORMER
VIRGINIA GOVERNOR JIM GILMORE
00:03:22PLANS TO JOIN THE CONTEST THE
FIRST WEEK OF AUGUST.
00:03:24KASICH IS, OF COURSE, HOPING TO
MAKE THE LIST OF TOP 10
00:03:26CANDIDATES WHO WILL BE ON STAGE
FOR THE FIRST TELEVISED
00:03:28REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATE DEBATE ON AUGUST 6 IN
00:03:31CLEVELAND.
BUT HE HAS AGREED TO APPEAR AT A
00:03:34TOWN HALL IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ON
AUGUST 3 FOR THOSE WHO DON'T
00:03:38QUALIFY FOR THE DEBATE.
AFTER YEARS OF FIGHTING AGAINST
00:03:43THE DEATH PENALTY, ONE
DEMOCRATIC STATE LAWMAKER IS
00:03:45FINDING NEW ALLIES IN HER FIGHT
TO ABOLISH IT.
00:03:49REPRESENTATIVE NICKIE ANTONIO OF
LAKEWOOD HAS ONCE AGAIN
00:03:52INTRODUCED THE BILL, BUT THIS
TIME, SHE'S BEING JOINED BY
00:03:54FRESHMAN REPRESENTATIVE NIRAJ
ANTANI, A REPUBLICAN FROM
00:03:57MIAMISBURG.
>> TO ME, THERE CAN BE NO BIGGER
00:04:04GOVERNMENT WITH NO BIGGER POWER
THAN THE RIGHT TO EXECUTE ITS
00:04:07OWN CITIZENS.
KAREN: HE SAYS CAPITAL
00:04:10PUNISHMENT IS TOO EXPENSIVE AND
REPRESENTS THE EPITOME OF BIG
00:04:11GOVERNMENT, AND HE SAYS HE'S
ALARMED THAT ABOUT A DOZEN
00:04:14PEOPLE ON DEATH ROW IN OHIO HAVE
HAD THEIR SENTENCES COMMUTED OR
00:04:16EXONERATED.
SO HE'S CALLING ON HIS FELLOW
00:04:19PRO-LIFE CONSERVATIVES TO SIDE
WITH HIM IN GETTING RID OF THE
00:04:22DEATH PENALTY.
ANTANI: I BELIEVE THAT -- JUST
00:04:25THE CHANCE THAT AN INNOCENT
INDIVIDUAL COULD BE PUT TO DEATH
00:04:29IS REASON ENOUGH TO REPEAL IT.
KAREN: THERE ARE OTHERS WHO
00:04:32DISAGREE, SAYING THE DEATH
PENALTY IS STILL USEFUL TO
00:04:34PUNISH MURDERERS AND BARGAIN FOR
PLEA DEALS.
00:04:37BUT THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE AT
PLAY WHEN IT COMES TO CAPITAL
00:04:39PUNISHMENT IN OHIO.
THE STATE HAS DELAYED EXECUTIONS
00:04:42UNTIL NEXT YEAR DUE TO QUESTIONS
OVER THE DRUGS USED FOR LETHAL
00:04:46INJECTIONS.
LAST YEAR, DEATH ROW INMATE
00:04:49DENNIS MCGUIRE TOOK AN UNUSUALLY
LONG TIME TO DIE DURING HIS
00:04:53EXECUTION AND WAS REPORTEDLY
SEEN STRUGGLING FOR AIR.
00:04:57THE U.S. SUPREME COURT RECENTLY
RULED THAT IT'S OK FOR STATES TO
00:05:00USE CERTAIN COMBINATIONS OF
DRUGS BUT OHIO MUST STILL FIND
00:05:03SUPPLIERS AND MANUFACTURERS.
AND PRISONS DIRECTOR GARY MOHR
00:05:07HAS SAID THE STATE IS HAVING
PROBLEMS GETTING THOSE DRUGS
00:05:11BECAUSE INTERNATIONAL COMPANIES
DON'T WANT TO SELL THEM FOR
00:05:13LETHAL INJECTIONS AND
PHARMACISTS DON'T WANT TO CREATE
00:05:16THEM FOR EXECUTIONS.
CONSERVATIVE REPRESENTATIVE JOHN
00:05:20BECKER OF THE CINCINNATI AREA
WANTS TO KEEP THE DEATH PENALTY
00:05:22IN OHIO, AND SAYS LETHAL
INJECTION ISN'T THE ONLY OPTION.
00:05:27BECKER: FRANKLY I LIKE THE IDEA
OF GIVING PEOPLE CHOICES.
00:05:30THEY CAN HAVE DEATH BY FIRING
SQUAD, DEATH BY HANGING, DEATH
00:05:32BY GUILLOTINE.
I'M NOT REALLY SURE I CARE HOW
00:05:36THEY DIE AND THEY CAN CHOOSE
THEIR OWN METHOD FOR ALL I CARE.
00:05:40KAREN: BUT ANTONIO DESCRIBES
THOSE OTHER OPTIONS AS
00:05:42RIDICULOUS AND ARCHAIC.
AND SHE SAYS SHE'S ENCOURAGED BY
00:05:46A NATIONWIDE QUINNIPIAC POLL IN
JUNE THAT FOUND THAT 48% OF
00:05:51THOSE SURVEYED FAVORED LIFE
WITHOUT PAROLE OVER THE DEATH
00:05:53PENALTY.
THE FALL BALLOT MAY INCLUDE BOTH
00:05:56A MEASURE TO LEGALIZE MARIJUANA
ALONG WITH 10 OFFICIAL GROWING
00:06:00SITES AS WELL AS A PROPOSAL THAT
WOULD BAN ECONOMIC INTERESTS
00:06:04FROM PUTTING SPECIFIC LANGUAGE
THAT EXCLUSIVELY BENEFITS THEM
00:06:07INTO CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS.
BUT THE GROUP WITH THE
00:06:11LEGALIZATION PLAN IS ALREADY
LOOKING AHEAD TO THE 2016 BALLOT
00:06:14AND A TIME WHEN THEY PREDICT
VOTERS WILL HAVE MADE POT LEGAL
00:06:17IN OHIO.
THIS WEEK, RESPONSIBLEOHIO TOOK
00:06:24ITS "FRESH START ACT" TO THE
STATE BALLOT BOARD.
00:06:26THAT PLAN WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE
CONVICTED OF MARIJUANA
00:06:28POSSESSION AND OTHER VIOLATIONS
TO CLEAR THEIR RECORDS OF
00:06:30CONVICTIONS THAT WOULD BE MADE
OBSOLETE IF POT IS PERMITTED IN
00:06:32OHIO.
RESPONSIBLEOHIO GOT PERMISSION
00:06:36GO START GATHERING 92,000
SIGNATURES TO TAKE THE PROPOSAL
00:06:40TO STATE LAWMAKERS, WHO WOULD
HAVE FOUR MONTHS TO APPROVE IT.
00:06:43IF THEY DON'T, THE GROUP CAN
COLLECT ANOTHER 92,000 VALID
00:06:47SIGNATURES TO PUT IT THE SAME
PROPOSAL BEFORE VOTERS IN
00:06:51NOVEMBER 2016.
NOW THAT THE BUDGET IS SIGNED
00:06:54AND IN PLACE, THE EXPERTS CAN GO
OVER THE BIG NUMBERS IN THAT
00:06:57HUGE DOCUMENT, ESPECIALLY THE
SCHOOL FUNDING FIGURES.
00:07:01K-12 EDUCATION FUNDING WENT
THROUGH QUITE A CHANGE BETWEEN
00:07:04GOVERNOR KASICH'S BUDGET
PROPOSAL IN FEBRUARY, WHICH
00:07:07WOULD HAVE LEFT HALF OF THE
STATE'S SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITH
00:07:10LESS MONEY THIS FISCAL YEAR THAN
LAST YEAR, AND THE FINAL
00:07:12PRODUCT, WHICH GUARANTEED THAT
NO DISTRICT WOULD LOSE MONEY.
00:07:17THAT WAS THE CASE UNTIL THE
GOVERNOR USED HIS VETO POWER ON
00:07:19TWO ITEMS IN THE BUDGET.
HE ELIMINATED THE 20% MINIMUM
00:07:23AID PER PUPIL OR THE SO-CALLED
"GUARANTEE," AND HE CUT THE
00:07:27REIMBURSEMENTS PAYMENTS FOR THE
TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX,
00:07:31A BUSINESS INVENTORY TAX THAT
THE STATE ELIMINATED IN 2005.
00:07:34OVERALL, THERE ARE WELL OVER A
HUNDRED DISTRICTS THAT WILL SEE
00:07:37CUTS IN THIS BUDGET.
THE LARGEST HIT WILL BE TAKEN BY
00:07:41CLEVELAND, WHICH WILL LOSE $13
MILLION.
00:07:44IT CUTS $4 MILLION IN FUNDING TO
OLENTANGY LOCAL SCHOOLS IN
00:07:47DELAWARE COUNTY, $3.6 MILLION TO
MASON NEAR CINCINNATI, A LITTLE
00:07:52OVER $3 MILLION TO THE LAKOTA
LOCAL SCHOOLS SCHOOLS IN
00:07:55SOUTHWEST OHIO AND MORE THAN $2
MILLION TO STRONGSVILLE,
00:07:58MAYFIELD, MENTOR, WORTHINGTON,
MEDINA, SYCAMORE COMMUNITY CITY
00:08:03NEAR CINCINNATI, SOLON AND
PRINCETON IN HAMILTON COUNTY.
00:08:07SEVERAL DISTRICTS WILL LOSE
BETWEEN $1 MILLION AND $2
00:08:10MILLION, INCLUDING CINCINNATI,
HUDSON, BEREA,
00:08:13BRECKSVILLE-BROADVIEW HEIGHTS,
NORDONIA HILLS, DUBLIN, PERRY
00:08:16LOCAL IN LAKE COUNTY, KENSTON IN
GEAUGA COUNTY, UPPER ARLINGTON,
00:08:21WESTLAKE, BEACHWOOD,
WARRENSVILLE CITY, ONE OF THE
00:08:25POOREST DISTRICTS IN THE STATE,
KENT, AVON LAKE, BOWLING GREEN
00:08:27AND COPLEY-FAIRLAWN IN SUMMIT
COUNTY.
00:08:31ALL TOLD, IT'S A CUT OF AROUND
$90 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR THE
00:08:34STATE'S PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
BUT THE WHOLE SAGA SHOWS THE
00:08:36STRUGGLE THAT CONTINUES OVER
SCHOOL FUNDING IN OHIO, AN ISSUE
00:08:40THAT NEVER SEEMS TO BE RESOLVED.
HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT ARE TWO
00:08:44SCHOOL FINANCE VETERANS.
DAMON ASBURY IS THE DIRECTOR OF
00:08:47LEGISLATIVE SERVICES FOR THE
OHIO SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION,
00:08:50AND WAS THE SUPERINTENDENT OF
THE WORTHINGTON CITY SCHOOLS AND
00:08:54AN ASSOCIATE SUPERINTENDENT IN
THE COLUMBUS CITY SCHOOLS.
00:08:57GEORGE WOOD IS THE LONGTIME
SUPERINTENDENT OF THE FEDERAL
00:09:04HOCKING LOCAL SCHOOLS IN
SOUTHEAST OHIO.
00:09:06HE JOINS US THROUGH THE
FACILITIES OF WOUB IN ATHENS.
00:09:11THE GOOD THING IN THIS BUDGET
FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF BOTH
00:09:15SCHOOL DISTRICTS IS THAT -- WITH
THESE TWO VETOES, 26 DISTRICTS
00:09:22LOST MONEY AND THE SO-CALLED
GUARANTEE, 109 DISTRICTS LOST
00:09:27MONEY WITH THE REIMBURSEMENT.
THAT IS BAD NEWS FOR A SIXTH OF
00:09:30THE STATE SCHOOLS.
DAMON: THANK YOU FOR THE
00:09:35OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT SCHOOL
FUNDING.
00:09:36CHALLENGES WILL REMAIN FOR
ORGANIZATIONS LIKE MINE THAT
00:09:42CONTINUE TO WORK ON SCHOOL
FUNDING.
00:09:43THERE WERE SOME POSITIVE STEPS
THIS YEAR.
00:09:46THE GOVERNOR IN GENERAL ASSEMBLY
DID PUT IN $800 MILLION INTO
00:09:52K-12 EDUCATION.
THAT IS A PLUS.
00:09:55LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF
COMPARING THE PREVIOUS YEARS,
00:09:59BUT IT'S IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
WE WERE PLEASED WITH WHAT CAME
00:10:03OUT OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE IN
THAT NO DISTRICT LOSE MONEY.
00:10:04THE TPP ISSUE IS A MAJOR ISSUE
FOR MANY DISTRICTS THAT HAVE A
00:10:14HEAVY RELIANCE ON THOSE.
WE WERE DISAPPOINTED IN THE VETO
00:10:17THERE.
THE HOUSE VERSION OF THE BUDGET
00:10:20DID DRIVE MORE DOLLARS TO RURAL
DISTRICTS, WHICH IS A NEED IN
00:10:26THIS STATE AND TO URBAN
DISTRICTS THAT ALSO HAVE NEEDS.
00:10:30THE SENATE CHANGED THAT A BIT.
THEY PUT IN SOME OTHER THINGS OF
00:10:35INTEREST.
WE STILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO,
00:10:40PARTICULARLY ON EQUITY ISSUES
AND FUNDING.
00:10:41KAREN: YOUR DISTRICT WOULD HAVE
LOST FUNDING IN THE GOVERNOR'S
00:10:45BUDGET, BUT ONCE THE CHANGES IN
THE HOUSE AND SENATE VERSION AND
00:10:50VETO -- WHAT WAS THE FINAL
VERDICT?
00:10:51GEORGE: IT APPEARS THAT WE GAIN
REVENUE OVER THE TWO YEARS.
00:10:56THESE NUMBERS ARE ALL BASED ON
LAST YEAR'S ENROLLMENT FIGURES.
00:11:01ODE COULD NOT EVEN GIVE US
ENROLLMENT FIGURES FOR THIS PAST
00:11:07YEAR UNTIL MAY.
WE WERE OPERATING ON A BUDGET
00:11:11THAT WAS UNCLEAR ALL YEAR LONG.
THERE IS STILL A REGULATORY
00:11:15FAILURE TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY
KIDS ARE ENROLLED.
00:11:18WE TURN THESE REPORTS AND, BUT
THEY DON'T GET CREDIT IN TIME.
00:11:23WE STILL HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THE
EQUITY ISSUES OVERALL.
00:11:29THIS IS THE THIRD BUDGET THE
GOVERNOR HAS ROLLED OUT AND WE
00:11:33STILL HAVE NOT SEEN A REAL
THOUGHTFUL ATTACK ON HOW TO DO
00:11:37SCHOOL FUNDING IN OHIO.
IT IS MORE TINKERING AROUND THE
00:11:39EDGES.
HE MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO
00:11:43REIN IN SOME BIG ISSUES, ONE
BEING THE ONLINE CHARTER SCHOOLS
00:11:46THAT ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL AND
CONTINUE TO DRAIN A LOT OF MONEY
00:11:50OUT OF THE BUDGET AND LOOKING AT
WHAT THE GUARANTEE MEANS AND
00:11:53WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO AND
HOW TO GET DISTRICTS OFF THAT
00:11:56GUARANTEE.
KAREN: THE GOVERNOR HAD WARNED
00:11:58YOU THAT THE GUARANTEE WAS GOING
TO GO AWAY.
00:12:02THE QUESTION MIGHT COME TO YOU,
WHY WEREN'T YOU PREPARED FOR
00:12:09THIS GUARANTEED TO GO WAY WHEN
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED -- GO AWAY
00:12:15WHEN YOU HAD BEEN WARNED?
GEORGE: I DON'T KNOW IF
00:12:21DISTRICTS WERE CAUGHT
FLAT-FOOTED.
00:12:22WE PLANNED FOR IT.
THE GUARANTEE IN THE TPP IS PART
00:12:27OF THIS OVERALL FUNDING SCHEME
THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE
00:12:30RATIONAL.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW EVERY PIECE OF
00:12:33IT WORKS.
WHEN THIS WENT TO CONFERENCE,
00:12:38THE LIGHTS TURNED OUT AND NOBODY
KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
00:12:40I BELIEVE THESE THINGS OUGHT TO
BE DONE TRANSPARENTLY.
00:12:43THEY OUGHT TO KNOW WHO THE
WINNERS AND LOSERS ARE AND WE
00:12:48STILL NEED TO GET THIS EQUITY
ISSUE THAT WE JUST KEEP
00:12:49AVOIDING.
IF WE CAN PARSE OUT A FEW
00:12:54DOLLARS HERE AND THERE, IT WILL
SOLVE IT, BUT IT HAS NOT SOLVED
00:12:56IT AND IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE
IT UNLESS WE RETHINK THE WHOLE
00:12:59MODEL.
KAREN: THE ISSUE OF TRANSPARENCY
00:13:02COME A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE
COMPLAINED.
00:13:03WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT
DISTRICTS LOSING FUNDING,
00:13:09WEALTHY DISTRICTS.
$4 MILLION IN DELAWARE COUNTY.
00:13:133.6 MILLION TO MASON IN
CINCINNATI.
00:13:18MAYFIELD ALSO LOST $2.5 MILLION.
MORE THAN $1 MILLION EACH TO
00:13:26AURORA, HUDSON -- IF OF THE 25
DISTRICTS THAT ARE LOSING MONEY.
00:13:34THESE ARE WEALTHIER DISTRICTS,
DISTRICTS THAT CAN AFFORD TO
00:13:39RAISE TAXES AND LEVIES AND MAKE
UP FOR THAT.
00:13:43DAMON: I THINK THAT IS THE
CONCEPT, THESE ARE SO-CALLED
00:13:49WEALTHY DISTRICTS AND THEY HAVE
THE ABILITY TO RAISE THE MONEY
00:13:50LOCALLY.
THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE
00:13:56BETWEEN CAPACITY AND ABILITY TO
RAISE TAXES LOCALLY.
00:13:57I WAS IN WORTHINGTON.
AT THAT TIME, THE VOTERS IN THAT
00:14:06COMMUNITY HAD ALREADY VOTED OVER
70 BILLS TO SUPPORT THEIR LOCAL
00:14:09SCHOOLS.
BECAUSE OF HOUSE BILL 920, WHICH
00:14:12ROLLS BACK THE GROWTH AND TAXES
DUE TO INFLATION, WE WERE ONLY
00:14:16COLLECTING 30 BILLS.
HAD WE HAD THAT DIFFERENCE
00:14:25BETWEEN WHAT THE COMMUNITY VOTED
AND WHAT HOUSE BILL 920 ROLLED
00:14:26AWAY, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE TO HAVE
THE PROBLEM WE ARE FACED WITH
00:14:29WITH TPP.
KAREN: THE PHANTOM REVENUE
00:14:33CONCEPT.
DAMON: EXACTLY.
00:14:33IT'S AFFECTING NOT JUST WEALTHY
DISTRICTS -- THERE ARE RURAL
00:14:42DISTRICTS THAT LOST MONEY WITH
THE VETO OF THE TPP.
00:14:43WE'VE KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME THAT
THESE FORMERLY LOCAL TAXES WERE
00:14:49GOING TO BE LOST TO US.
THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER BUDGET
00:14:56CUTS OVER THE YEARS AND IT'S
BEEN DIFFICULT FOR THESE
00:14:57DISTRICTS TO PREPARE THEMSELVES
FOR THE EVENTUAL --
00:15:00>> THE ARE LOWER WEALTH
DISTRICTS ALSO HIT IN THIS
00:15:04BUDGET.
TWO OF THE BIG URBAN EIGHT
00:15:07DISTRICTS LOST MONEY.
ACCORDING TO A BREAKDOWN,
00:15:10SEVERAL RURAL SCHOOL DISTRICT'S
LOST MONEY.
00:15:15WHAT HAPPENS IN THOSE AREAS WHEN
THE MONEY IS CUT FROM THE STATE
00:15:22AND YOU HAVE TO TURN TO
TAXPAYERS WHO MAY NOT HAVE THE
00:15:24MONEY TO REPLACE IT?
GEORGE: THAT CONTINUES TO BE A
00:15:30PROBLEM WITH SCHOOL FUNDING IN
THE STATE OF OHIO.
00:15:31WE HAVE THIS HODGEPODGE SYSTEM
OF LOCAL PROPERTY TAXES --
00:15:35PROPERTY TAXES ARE A HISTORICAL
ITEM BACK WHEN YOU OWNED
00:15:41PROPERTY, YOU HAD WEALTH.
THAT IS NOT THE CASE NOW.
00:15:43THAT IS SUPPLEMENTED BY STATE
FUNDS AND THEN MAGICALLY, THE
00:15:49STATE FIGURES OUT HOW MUCH YOU
SHOULD ADD TO THE STATE FUNDS.
00:15:51NO INDIVIDUAL TAXPAYER
UNDERSTANDS ALL THIS.
00:15:55YOU ADD TO IT THE INCREASING THE
MAN'S BY THE STATE.
00:15:59-- DEMANDS BY THE STATE.
WE WILL TEST EVERYONE ON A
00:16:06COMPUTER.
EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS TO
00:16:07JAZZ UP THEIR COMPUTERS.
WE WILL HAVE A NEW PRINCIPAL AND
00:16:12TEACHER EVALUATION SYSTEM AND A
NEW COMMON COURT -- ONE NEW
00:16:16THING AFTER ANOTHER, BUT NO
FUNDING TO ACCOMPANY IT.
00:16:17UNTIL YOU GET SERIOUS -- FOR ALL
ITS FAULTS, THE ELEMENTS BASED
00:16:25MODEL WAS AN ATTEMPT TO GET
SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT IT COSTS TO
00:16:27EDUCATE A CHILD IN THE
STATE OF OHIO AND FUND THAT
00:16:33MODEL.
WHAT LOCAL PEOPLE OBJECT TO IS
00:16:36THEY FEEL THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY
GOING TO THINGS THAT ARE NOT
00:16:41LOCALLY DECIDED.
THEY WERE DECIDED AT THE
00:16:44STATEHOUSE AND THE LOCAL PEOPLE
ARE SUPPOSED TO FUND IT.
00:16:46THE PHANTOM REVENUE HITS
EVERYBODY AS WELL BECAUSE THE
00:16:51PEOPLE TAX THEMSELVES AT A
CERTAIN RATE BUT THAT RATE FALLS
00:16:54OFF OVER THE YEARS AND THEN
DISTRICT SET TO GO BACK AGAIN
00:16:56AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND PEOPLE
WEAR OUT.
00:16:57WONDER, WHY ISN'T THE STATE
DOING SOMETHING FOR THEIR
00:17:04SCHOOLS?
KAREN: LET ME QUOTE FROM THE
00:17:08ORIGINAL BUDGET PROPOSAL.
THE GOVERNOR SAID THAT THE
00:17:12PROPOSAL COMMITS THE STRONGEST
LEVEL EVER.
00:17:15HOUSE LEADERS AND SAID THEIR
VERSION MAINTAINS THE FOOTPRINT
00:17:21OF THE EXECUTIVE K12 BASEL
AND PROVIDES QUALITY EDUCATION
00:17:27BY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT
SCHOOL'S INCOME DISTRIBUTION AND
00:17:33GROWTH.
ARE THESE THINGS -- DID ANY OF
00:17:39THESE COME TRUE?
DAMON: IT'S LIKE THE PROVERBIAL
00:17:43STORY OF THE ELEMENT, IT DEPENDS
ON WHAT PART OF THE ELEPHANT
00:17:50YOUR TOUCHING.
THE SENATE DID SOME THINGS THEY
00:17:52THOUGHT WERE GOOD.
THE TRANSPORTATION SUPPLEMENT
00:17:57DID HELP LOWER WEALTH DISTRICTS.
THEY TOOK MONEY OUT OF CORE
00:18:03OPPORTUNITY, WHICH WAS A
CHALLENGE.
00:18:04THE HOUSE THOUGHT THEY HAD PUT
IN PLACE A BUDGET THAT WAS
00:18:09PREDICTABLE AND MORE STABLE IN
THE WAY THE CAPACITY MEASURES
00:18:13WERE CAP RELATED.
THE GOVERNOR HAD A VISION OF
00:18:18DOING AWAY WITH GUARANTEES.
IF YOU DO AWAY WITH CAPS ON
00:18:21GUARANTEES AND YOUR FORMULA
WORKS, THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.
00:18:25YOU CANNOT JUST CUT A DISTRICT
OFF.
00:18:27PARTICULARLY WHEN MOST OF THE
DISTRICTS ON GUARANTEES ARE
00:18:33ALREADY LOW WEALTH DISTRICTS.
THEY HAVE CHALLENGES THE
00:18:41SUBURBAN DISTRICTS DON'T HAVE.
IF YOU WANT TO MOVE TO A FORMULA
00:18:47THAT GETS YOU OFF CAPS ON
GUARANTEES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A
00:18:48TRANSITION AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK
CAREFULLY AT WHY A DISTRICT
00:18:52WOULD BE ON A GUARANTEE.
MOST OF THOSE WERE LOW WEALTH
00:18:59DISTRICT'S.
IF YOU CUT OUT ADDITIONAL
00:19:01FUNDING, THOSE YOUNGSTERS WILL
NEVER HAVE THE SAME RESOURCES
00:19:03THAT THE STUDENTS IN COLUMBUS
ENJOY.
00:19:06GEORGE: ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT
DAMON ALLUDES TO IS -- OUR
00:19:13DISTRICT IS SEEN AS NOT LOW
WEALTH BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF
00:19:20PROPERTY IN FEW STUDENTS.
PROPERTY IS NOT WORTH WHAT IT IS
00:19:24IN UPPER ARLINGTON.
I THOUGHT THE HOUSE DID BEGIN
00:19:27SOME STEPS TOWARD A CONSISTENT
LOGICAL FUNDING MECHANISM THAT
00:19:32WAS NOT BASED ON TAKING A FEW
MILLION OUT OF YOUR AND PUTTING
00:19:38IN TRANSPORTATION.
THIS IS WHAT WE WILL DO TO MOVE
00:19:41FORWARD.
UNTIL WE GET THAT KIND OF BUDGET
00:19:43SET UP, YOU WILL KEEP RUNNING
INTO CAPTAIN GUARANTEES ISSUES.
00:19:47-- CAP AND GUARANTEES ISSUES.
WHY WEREN'T YOU PLANNING?
00:19:53DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD IT
IS TO PLAN A BUDGET WHEN EVERY
00:19:58TWO YEARS, IT WILL BE SOMETHING
DIFFERENT?
00:19:59NO ORGANIZATION COULD WORK THAT
WAY.
00:20:03IT'S TIME THAT SCHOOLS DON'T
HAVE TO WORK THAT WAY ANYMORE.
00:20:07KAREN: WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
COMING UP WITH A NUMBER OF WHAT
00:20:09IT COSTS TO EDUCATE A CHILD,
EACH DISTRICT HAS DIFFERENT
00:20:15CHALLENGES.
YOU HAVE TRANSPORTATION
00:20:16CHALLENGES.
COMPARED TO URBAN DISTRICTS THAT
00:20:22MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES.
HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH ONE
00:20:24NUMBER THAT FITS EVERYBODY?
GEORGE: I'M NOT ASKING FOR ONE
00:20:28NUMBER THAT FITS EVERYBODY.
THIS IS A COUNTRY THAT JUST RAN
00:20:33A SPACE PROBE PAST PLUTO.
IF WE CAN DO THAT, WE CAN FIGURE
00:20:36OUT WHAT IT COSTS TO EDUCATE
KIDS AND AMEND THE FORMULA FOR
00:20:42LOCAL DISPARITIES SUCH AS
TRANSPORTATION ISSUES OR URBAN
00:20:43CHALLENGES.
THAT CAN BE DONE, BUT YOU HAVE
00:20:48TO HAVE A FORMULA YOU ALL AGREE
ON.
00:20:49WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT PART.
KAREN: YOU HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A
00:20:54WHILE.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU THINK
00:20:57COULD GET DONE?
KAREN: WE BELIEVE THE HOUSE
00:21:04CONCEPTS WERE MOVING IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION.
00:21:05IT HAD A CHANCE FOR PERFECT
ABILITY.
00:21:08IT WAS STILL UNDERFUNDED.
-- PREDICTABILITY.
00:21:13AS I WAS TOLD BY A FEW
LEGISLATORS, THAT WAS A DREAM.
00:21:18I AGREE WITH WHAT GEORGE SAID.
THIS COUNTRY HAS THE RESOURCES
00:21:23TO EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN.
THEY ARE THE INVESTMENT IN OUR
00:21:26FUTURE.
WE NEED TO TAKE THE TIME AND
00:21:29ENERGY TO DECIDE EXACTLY HOW TO
DO IT AND NOT PUT OURSELVES IN
00:21:35CAMPS UP WEALTHY DISTRICTS
VERSUS POOR DISTRICTS OR
00:21:39REPUBLICANS VERSUS DEMOCRATS.
I WAS IMPRESSED LAST YEAR WITH
00:21:45THE EFFORT ON THE PART OF JOHN
PATTERSON ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE
00:21:46AND A FEW OTHERS ON THE
REPUBLICAN SIDE WILLING TO SIT
00:21:50DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK AT SCHOOL
FUNDING OUTSIDE OF THE FORMULA
00:21:51DISCUSSION.
WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT.
00:21:54WHEN YOU GET INTO THE BUDGET,
THERE ARE SO MANY COMPETING
00:21:59ISSUES THAT GET IN THE WAY THAT
WE NEED TO TAKE THAT TIME AND
00:22:02COMMITMENT TO SAY LET'S DO RIGHT
BY OUR CHILDREN.
00:22:06KAREN: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
DID COME OUT OF THE BUDGET THAT
00:22:09WAS NOT RELATED TO FUNDING, THE
STATE DID GET RID OF THE --
00:22:17SCHOOL IS STARTING IN A LITTLE
OVER A MONTH.
00:22:18WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO TO YOUR
INDIVIDUAL CONSTITUENCIES AS YOU
00:22:25TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENS
NOW?
00:22:26DAMON: OUR BOARD MEMBERS HAVE
BEEN VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT'S
00:22:35GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT.
NOT EVERYONE SUPPORTS COMMON
00:22:39CORE.
THEY WANT TO KNOW, WHAT IS IT
00:22:46YOU EXPECT US TO DO AND HOW ARE
YOU GOING TO MEASURE THIS
00:22:47PERFORMANCE?
I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN TAKING THE
00:22:51PARK TEST.
I HAVE NOT SEEN THEIR SCORES
00:22:54YET.
KAREN: A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE NOT
00:22:58SEEN THEIR SCORES.
DAMON: I APPLAUD THE
00:23:01SUPERINTENDENT FOR MOVING
FORWARD.
00:23:03I HAVE NOT SEEN THE TEST.
WE DIDN'T USE IT FOR SCIENCE AND
00:23:11SOCIAL STUDIES.
THE KEY FOR OUR TEACHERS AND
00:23:14PARENTS IS, KEEP THE TESTING TO
A MINIMUM.
00:23:17THE AMOUNT OF TIME REQUIRED AND
GET THE RESULTS BACKS OF THE
00:23:22TEACHERS CAN PUT THE RESULTS IN
PLACE.
00:23:25KAREN: WHAT DO YOU THINK IS
GOING TO HAPPEN WITH REGARD TO
00:23:30THE PARK TEST?
GEORGE: THERE WILL BE CHANGE.
00:23:33THERE IS ALWAYS CHANGE AROUND
TESTING AND AWAY WE GO WITH IT,
00:23:37WE SAY OUR GOAL IS TO HELP KIDS
THINK WELL, READ WELCOME TO
00:23:43SPEAK WELCOME IT BE ACTIVE AND
ENGAGED CITIZENS AND WE WILL
00:23:46KEEP HER ION THAT BALL.
THE TEST SCORES WILL BE WHAT
00:23:49THEY ARE.
WE ARE EDUCATING CHILDREN IN
00:23:56WAYS THAT WILL HELP THEM BE
GENUINELY ENGAGED AND PRODUCTIVE
00:23:59CITIZENS AND THE TEST SCORES
WILL FOLLOW.
00:24:03IF WE KEEP TRYING TO OUTGUESS
WHAT THE NEXT TEST IS, WE WILL
00:24:10SPEND ALL OF OUR TIME AND ENERGY
ON TEST PREPARATION.
00:24:11KAREN: THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH
FOR BEING HERE.
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