00:00:38 | >> THE GOVERNOR ISSUES NEW DIRECTIVES ON FRACKING. |
00:00:42 | A LONG-AWAITED REPORT ON THE IMPACT OF CHANGES TO THE |
00:00:44 | STATE'S PENSION FUNDS IS OUT. AND ELECTION DAY IS COMING |
00:00:47 | CLOSER - AS EVIDENT BY THE CANDIDATE VISITS, THE |
00:00:50 | FUNDRAISING CALLS AND LITERATURE, AND ALL THE ADS. |
00:00:52 | TWO EXPERTS FROM TWO DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES DEBATE HOW THEY |
00:00:56 | THINK THE RACE FOR PRESIDENT AND US SENATE WILL PLAY HERE. |
00:00:58 | ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF OHIO". |
00:01:01 | ENVIRONMENTALISTS WHO BLASTED GOV. JOHN KASICH FOR ALLOWING |
00:01:10 | OIL AND GAS DRILLING IN STATE PARKS ARE CHEERING HIM THIS |
00:01:13 | WEEK - FOR AN ORDER HE ISSUED THAT THEY SAY MAKES LAKE ERIE A |
00:01:16 | "FRACK-FREE ZONE". THE ORDER BANS DRILLING IN LAKE |
00:01:19 | ERIE, WHICH IS ALSO PROHIBITED UNDER FEDERAL LAW - BUT |
00:01:23 | ACTIVISTS SAY BECAUSE CONGRESS COULD SOMEDAY LIFT THE NATIONAL |
00:01:28 | BAN, IT'S IMPORTANT OHIO HAS ITS OWN. |
00:01:29 | THE GOVERNOR ALSO ISSUED AN ORDER IMMEDIATELY IMPOSING NEW |
00:01:34 | REGULATIONS ON DEEP-INJECTION WELLS USED TO DISPOSE OF |
00:01:38 | CHEMICALLY-LACED FRACKWATER. UNDER THE ORDER, THE STATE WILL |
00:01:41 | HAVE AUTHORITY TO ORDER PRELIMINARY TESTS AT PROPOSED |
00:01:45 | WELL SITES AND PREVENT DRILLING WHERE TESTS FAIL. |
00:01:47 | THESE RULES WERE ANNOUNCED AFTER A SERIES OF YOUNGSTOWN- |
00:01:50 | AREA EARTHQUAKES LATE LAST YEAR WAS TIED TO ONE SUCH DEEP WELL. |
00:01:55 | THE GOVERNOR ALSO SPARED THE LIFE OF A CONDEMNED KILLER WHO |
00:02:00 | WAS SET TO DIE LATER THIS MONTH, AFTER THE PROSECUTOR WHO |
00:02:03 | INITIALLY PUSHED FOR A DEATH SENTENCE AND THE JUDGE WHO |
00:02:06 | HANDED IT DOWN BOTH OPPOSED THE EXECUTION. |
00:02:07 | 63 YEAR OLD JOHN ELEY CONFESSED TO THE SHOOTING OF CONVENIENCE |
00:02:13 | STORE OWNER IHSAN AYDAH IN YOUNGSTOWN IN 1986 AFTER |
00:02:16 | WITHDRAWING AN INSANITY PLEA. IT'S THE THIRD TIME IN A LITTLE |
00:02:20 | OVER A YEAR THAT GOV. KASICH HAS COMMUTED A DEATH |
00:02:23 | SENTENCE. THREE YEARS AFTER IT RULED ON A |
00:02:26 | CASE INVOLVING THE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES TAX AND OHIO'S |
00:02:28 | GROCERS, THE OHIO SUPREME COURT WILL AGAIN DECIDE WHETHER THE |
00:02:32 | CAT CAN APPLY TO A SPECIFIC PRODUCT. |
00:02:33 | THIS SUIT WAS FILED BY AN EXCAVATING COMPANY AND JOINED BY |
00:02:38 | TRUCKERS, BUILDERS AND CONTRACTORS. |
00:02:39 | ANTHONY EHLER SAID THE CONSTITUTION REQUIRES MONEY |
00:02:44 | FROM TAXES ON MOTOR VEHICLE OWNERS AND OPERATORS GO TO |
00:02:48 | ROADS. SINCE CAT REVENUES GO TO |
00:02:52 | SCHOOLS, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THE STATE GENERAL FUND, EHLER |
00:02:55 | SAID LAWMAKERS COULDN'T PUT THE CAT ON GASOLINE SALES. |
00:02:58 | >> "AS APPLIED TO THE PRIVILEGE OF SELLING MOTOR VEHICLE FUEL, |
00:03:04 | THOSE FUNDS NEED TO BE DEDICATED. |
00:03:05 | IT'S EITHER THAT OR THEY COULD EXEMPT THEM AND INCREASE THE |
00:03:09 | MOTOR FUEL TAX. THAT'S THEIR PREROGATIVE." |
00:03:10 | >> STEPHEN CARNEY ARGUED FOR THE STATE, BRINGING BACK THE RULING |
00:03:17 | THE COURT MADE IN THE GROCERS' CASE |
00:03:18 | SAYING THE CAT IS A TAX THAT ALL BUSINESSES IN OHIO PAY ON WHAT |
00:03:21 | THEY SELL, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR BUSINESS IS. |
00:03:22 | >> "THE CAT IS ON THE PRIVILEGE OF DOING BUSINESS - AS THE |
00:03:27 | COURT SAID IN GROCERS. IT'S MEASURED BY ALL YOUR GROSS |
00:03:30 | RECEIPTS, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY'RE FOOD, WIDGETS, MOTOR |
00:03:32 | FUEL, TOILET PAPER - DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU SELL." THE HIGH |
00:03:36 | COURT ALSO HEARD ARGUMENTS ON WHETHER REVENUES FROM A FEE |
00:03:39 | INCREASE LEVIED BY THE BUREAU OF MOTOR VEHICLES IS |
00:03:42 | UNCONSTITUTIONAL, SINCE THAT MONEY ALSO WENT TO PURPOSES NOT |
00:03:44 | RELATED TO ROADS. AN INDEPENDENT STUDY ON THE |
00:03:48 | FISCAL HEALTH OF OHIO'S FIVE PUBLIC RETIREMENT FUNDS SAYS |
00:03:52 | THEY ARE STRUCTURALLY SOLID BUT WOULD BE IMPROVED BY |
00:03:55 | LEGISLATIVE ACTION. AND THE REPORT COMMISSIONED BY |
00:03:59 | THE OHIO RETIREMENT STUDY COUNCIL SAYS MORE CHANGES COULD |
00:04:02 | BE MADE TO STRENGTHEN THE FUNDS' HEALTH, INCLUDING |
00:04:04 | INCREASED CONTRIBUTIONS BY EMPLOYEES, AND RAISING |
00:04:07 | RETIREMENT AGES AND SERVICE REQUIREMENTS. |
00:04:08 | AS WE REPORTED A FEW WEEKS AGO, THIS STUDY WAS WHAT HOUSE |
00:04:13 | SPEAKER BILL BATCHELDER WAS WAITING ON BEFORE HE WOULD |
00:04:16 | BRING UP CHANGES TO THE PENSION FUNDS THAT WERE ENACTED BY THE |
00:04:17 | SENATE IN MAY. ELECTION DAY IS A LITTLE OVER |
00:04:22 | FOUR MONTHS AWAY, AND THE MOST HEATED WEEKS OF THE RACE FOR |
00:04:25 | PRESIDENT, US SENATE, AND THE STATEHOUSE ARE AHEAD. |
00:04:28 | BUT THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A LOT OF ACTIVITY IN OHIO, WITH |
00:04:31 | SEVERAL VISITS BY PRESIDENT OBAMA AND MITT ROMNEY, AND |
00:04:34 | PLENTY OF ADS FROM BOTH THE MEN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, FROM |
00:04:39 | INCUMBENT SHERROD BROWN AND STATE TREASURER JOSH MANDEL IN |
00:04:42 | THE US SENATE RACE, AND FROM THE SUPERPACS THAT SUPPORT AND |
00:04:45 | OPPOSE THOSE CANDIDATES. THE LATEST QUINNIPIAC POLL |
00:04:48 | SHOWS OBAMA HAS A BIG LEAD OVER ROMNEY IN OHIO, BUT EVEN THE |
00:04:49 | POLLSTER SAYS FOUR MONTHS IS A LIFETIME IN POLITICS. |
00:04:54 | SO WE HAVE A LONG FEW MONTHS TO LOOK FORWARD TO. |
00:04:57 | HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND MORE ARE TWO WELL-KNOWN AND |
00:05:01 | HIGHLY RESPECTED EXPERTS IN POLITICAL STRATEGY IN OHIO. |
00:05:02 | DAVID LELAND IS THE FORMER CHAIR OF THE OHIO DEMOCRATIC |
00:05:06 | PARTY AND WAS AN OFFICIAL WITH THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL |
00:05:08 | COMMITTEE, AND RAN TED STRICKLAND'S SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGN |
00:05:12 | FOR GOVERNOR IN 2006, WHICH SET A RECORD FOR FUNDRAISING. |
00:05:14 | HE'S NOW WITH THE LAW FIRM CARPENTER LIPPS AND LELAND. |
00:05:18 | MARK WEAVER IS A FORMER ASSISTANT OHIO ATTORNEY GENERAL |
00:05:21 | AND HAS RUN OR CONSULTED ON SEVERAL SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGNS IN |
00:05:25 | OHIO AND NATIONWIDE. HE TEACHES LAW AT OHIO STATE |
00:05:28 | UNIVERSITY AND THE UNIVERSITY OF AKRON, AND IS THE PRESIDENT |
00:05:31 | OF THE MEDIA RELATIONS AND ADVERTISING FIRM COMMUNICATIONS |
00:05:33 | COUNSEL. BUT START WITH A RULING ON THE |
00:05:41 | AFFORDABLE CARE ACT LAST MONTH. WHAT IMPACT WILL IT HAVE ON THE |
00:05:45 | PRESIDENTIAL RACE IN OHIO? I WILL START WITH YOU, DAVID. |
00:05:48 | DID CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERT AND REPUBLICAN SOME RED MEAT IN THE |
00:05:53 | RACE HERE BY REFERRING TO THE PENALTY AS A TAX, WHICH IS |
00:05:56 | SOMETHING THEY CAN THEN USE TO BLOAT THE BLAME OBAMA AND |
00:06:00 | TARGET? >> THEY ARE TRYING TO DO THAT |
00:06:03 | BUT I DO NOT THINK ANY ME REASONABLE PERSON WILL LOOK AT |
00:06:05 | THIS. THE FAILURE TO BUY HEALTH |
00:06:07 | INSURANCE, HE SAID, WHICH RESULTS IN A PENALTY, IS A TAX, |
00:06:10 | BUT IT IS NOT A TAX, IS A PENALTY. |
00:06:13 | THE CHIEF JUSTICE WAS LOOKING FOR A WEEK TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF |
00:06:17 | THE ACT AND DEEP DOWN THAT WAY -- JUDGES TO THAT ALL THE TIME. |
00:06:21 | THEY FIND A PARTICULAR THING THEY CAN USE TO SUPPORT IT, AND |
00:06:24 | THAT IS WHAT HE DID. I DO NOT THINK IT WILL HAVE THAT |
00:06:27 | MUCH IMPACT. WE HAVE BEEN DEBATING THIS FOR |
00:06:30 | YEARS. PEOPLE PRETTY MUCH KNOW WHERE |
00:06:32 | THEY ARE ON THIS ISSUE. FOR THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT |
00:06:35 | HAVE COVERAGE BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THEIR PARENTS' PLAN, THAT |
00:06:38 | THEY DID NOT HAVE BEFORE, OBVIOUSLY, THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF |
00:06:42 | IT. THOSE WITH INSURANCE THAT CANNOT |
00:06:44 | BE DROPPED BECAUSE OF PRE- EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE IN |
00:06:47 | FAVOR. THE 5 MILLION SENIORS WHO HAD |
00:06:49 | THEIR DRUG COSTS CUT BECAUSE OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT ARE IN |
00:06:53 | FAVOR OF IT. AND THE MILLIONS THAT WILL GET A |
00:06:55 | REBATE IN AUGUST BECAUSE INSURANCE COMPANIES WERE PAYING |
00:06:57 | TOO MUCH TO THEIR EXECUTIVES, WILL BE IN FAVOR. |
00:07:01 | THE DEBATE HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. WHAT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND, THIS |
00:07:06 | DEBATE IS EXACTLY WHAT MITT ROMNEY DID IN MASSACHUSETTS. |
00:07:09 | IN FACT, OBAMACARE IS A TEMPLATE OF MITT ROMNEY'S PLAN, PUTTING |
00:07:17 | TOGETHER THE FROM THE PLAN NATIONALLY. |
00:07:22 | I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY INSURANCE COMPANIES WOULD BE UPSET WITH |
00:07:25 | THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT BECAUSE THEY LOSE MONEY. |
00:07:28 | I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW ROMNEY OR THE REPUBLICANS CAN BE UP ON |
00:07:31 | OBAMA ON THIS, CONSIDERING THE IDEA CAME FROM MITT ROMNEY. |
00:07:35 | >> MARC, THE QUESTION FOR YOU, DID THE SUPREME COURT AND THE |
00:07:41 | DEMOCRATS A WIN BY SAYING THIS IS THE LAW, THIS IS |
00:07:44 | CONSTITUTIONAL, AND THERE IS NO MORE DEBATING AT PART OF IT, |
00:07:47 | WHICH IS SOMETHING REPUBLICANS HAVE WANTED TO DEBATE AND EVEN |
00:07:51 | REPEAL THIS WEEK? >> THIS WAS CERTAINLY A |
00:07:55 | TEMPORARY WHEN FOR THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. |
00:07:57 | THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL WEEKS OF BAD NEWS FOR BARACK OBAMA. |
00:08:00 | HE WAS REALLY LOOKING BAD AND THIS WAS A BIT OF A BREAK. |
00:08:04 | IN THE LONG RUN, IT WILL HURT HIM, AND HERE IS WHY. |
00:08:07 | OF COURSE, WHEN THE GOVERNMENT MAKES TO PAY SOMETHING, IT IS A |
00:08:11 | TAX. IT IS NOT THE INSURANCE |
00:08:15 | COMPANIES THAT OPPOSE OBAMACARE, IT IS THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS. |
00:08:18 | THE ELECTION HAS NOW MOTIVATED THE REPUBLICAN BASE IN SUCH A |
00:08:23 | WAY THAT WE DID NOT SEE IN 2010. REMEMBER, 2008, A LOT OF THE |
00:08:28 | PUBLIC STAYED AT HOME. THEY WERE NOT MVERY MOTIVATED. |
00:08:35 | 2010, IT WAS THE REVERSE. REPUBLICANS WERE MOTIVATED, MORE |
00:08:39 | DEMOCRATS STAYED HOME. THE BIG QUESTION THIS YEAR IS |
00:08:42 | WHO WILL BE MORE MOTIVATED TO TURN OUT? |
00:08:45 | THE SUPREME COURT UPHOLDING OF OBAMACARE HAS MOTIVATED THE |
00:08:50 | REPUBLICAN BASE IN SUCH A WAY THAT YOU WILL SEE AN INCREASED |
00:08:52 | TURNOUT. >> WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE IDEA OF |
00:08:56 | MOTIVATING. WHAT AFFECT DO YOU THINK THE TEA |
00:08:58 | PARTY WILL BE, MOTIVATING REPUBLICANS TO GET OUT? |
00:09:01 | >> THE TEA PARTY WAS A RESULT OF THINGS LIKE OBAMACARE, LARGELY, |
00:09:07 | AND OTHER OVERREACHES BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. |
00:09:10 | THESE GOOD, HARD-WORKING FOLKS WHO HAVE NEVER GOT INVOLVED IN |
00:09:15 | POLITICS BEFORE -- >> WE HAVE NOT SEEN MUCH |
00:09:18 | ACTIVITY FROM THEM BEFORE. >> THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE |
00:09:22 | SMALL, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS. THESE FOLKS ARE WILLING TO RUN |
00:09:25 | FOR FIRE -- THROUGH FIRE TO VOTE AGAINST PRESIDENT OBAMA. |
00:09:32 | THEY FEEL HE HAS CHANGED THE AMERICAN THAT WE HAVE ALL COME |
00:09:35 | TO KNOW AND LOVE. >> DAVID, I WANT TO ASK YOU |
00:09:39 | ABOUT THE SENATE VOTE THAT WE HAD AND THE MOTIVATION FOR |
00:09:42 | DEMOCRATIC SOVOTERS. >> THOSE THAT WOULD NORMALLY |
00:09:48 | VOTE REPUBLICAN SAW THAT THE REPUBLICANS WERE NOT ON THEIR |
00:09:51 | SIDE ON THE SENATE BILL 5 ISSUE. I THINK ALL THIS STUFF IS ON THE |
00:09:55 | MARGINS. I AGREE SOMEONE WITH WHAT MARK |
00:09:58 | SAID, BUT THESE PEOPLE WERE ALREADY GOING TO VOTE AGAINST |
00:10:01 | BARACK OBAMA. I DO NOT THINK THE HEALTH CARE |
00:10:04 | ISSUE CHANGED ANYONE'S MIND. I THINK SOME PEOPLE MAY |
00:10:07 | ACTUALLY VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE OF THE HELP THAT THEY GET FROM THE |
00:10:10 | AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE ACT. ALL THESE NUMBERS ARE ON THE |
00:10:13 | MARGINS. WHY IT IS IMPORTANT, OHIO IS |
00:10:17 | SUCH A SWING STATE. I WAS LOOKING AT MY FAVORITE |
00:10:20 | WEBSITE, 538, A WEBSITE THAT DOES A LOT OF PREDICTING ON |
00:10:26 | PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS. THAT IS THE NUMBER OF ELECTORAL |
00:10:29 | VOTES, WHICH IS WHERE THEY GET THE NAME. |
00:10:30 | IT IS LIKE "MONEYBA;LL" FOR BASEBALL FANS. |
00:10:40 | RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE 24 MORE ELECTORAL VOTES THAN YOU NEED. |
00:10:44 | NOT VERY MUCH. THEY ALSO SAY THE ONE THING THAT |
00:10:47 | HAS THE MOST ABILITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS ELECTION, |
00:10:51 | THAT WILL HAVE THE ELECTORAL VOTES THAT THE SWING IN ONE WAY |
00:10:53 | OR ANOTHER, THE LARGEST PERCENTAGE IN STATES, IS OHIO. |
00:10:58 | 24% CHANCE THAT A HIGH WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. |
00:11:02 | WHILE WE ARE DEBATING ON THE MARGINS OF SOME OF THESE ISSUES |
00:11:06 | -- TURNOUT, INTENSITY, IS SOMEBODY MORE PASSED OFF. |
00:11:10 | IF SOMEBODY LESS HAPPY WITH THE PRESIDENT? |
00:11:13 | THESE ARE ALL ON THE MARGINS AND IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN OHIO, |
00:11:17 | BECAUSE THE BATTLEGROUND WILL BE SO TIGHT. |
00:11:19 | >> WITH THAT IN MIND, IT IS ROB PORTMAN A LOCK FOR MITT ROMNEY'S |
00:11:27 | ELECTION AS VICE PRESIDENT BEING AN ALL-SENATOR? |
00:11:28 | >> I DO NOT BELIEVE ANYBODY IS A LOCK. |
00:11:33 | I BELIEVE IT ONLY MITT ROMNEY KNOWS WHO WILL GET IT. |
00:11:37 | I AM BIASED BECAUSE I AM A FRIEND OF ROB PORTMAN. |
00:11:41 | I THINK HE WOULD HELP OHIO, NOT BECAUSE HE IS A HOUSEHOLD NAME, |
00:11:45 | -- >> POLLS HAVE SHOWED THAT HE IS |
00:11:49 | NOT A HOUSEHOLD NAME. >> HE HAS ONE OF THE BEST |
00:11:53 | POLITICAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THE STATE, WHICH HE BUILT IN THE |
00:11:55 | SENATE IN 2010. THAT NETWORK COULD BE PUT TO |
00:11:59 | WORK ON BEHALF OF THE TICKET. NOT TO MENTION, THE BROADER |
00:12:03 | RANGE OF EXPERTISE AND THE GRAVITAS, UNDERSTANDING OF THE |
00:12:07 | BUDGET, TRADE POLICY THAT HE WOULD BRING TO A RUN THE |
00:12:09 | ADMINISTRATION. >> DAVID, DO YOU THINK IT WOULD |
00:12:13 | SWAY ANY VOTERS WHO ARE NOT NECESSARILY AND FROM THE'S CAMP |
00:12:17 | TO HAVE AN OHIO U.S. SENATOR AS BP? |
00:12:19 | >> GENERALLY, IT DOES NOT. WE LOOKED AT THAT EARLIER, |
00:12:25 | ADDING JOHN VOINOVICH TO THE TICKET. |
00:12:27 | THAT DID NOT ADD ANY REUTERS -- VOTERS. |
00:12:32 | I THINK HE HAD MORE OF AN IMPACT IN THE STATE THEN PORTMAN DOES |
00:12:36 | TODAY. I DO NOT THINK IT MAKES A |
00:12:38 | DIFFERENCE. I DO NOT CONSULT WITH THE |
00:12:40 | REPUBLICANS, WHICH IS WHY I DO NOT HAVE ANY INSIDE INFORMATION, |
00:12:44 | BUT EVERYONE WAS THINKING PORTMAN WAS THE OBVIOUS CHOICE, |
00:12:48 | BUT NOT EVERYONE THINKS HE WAS THE OBVIOUS CHOICE, I THINK |
00:12:51 | THERE COULD BE SOMETHING GOING ON. |
00:12:52 | AGAIN, I DO NOT HAVE ANY INSIDE INFORMATION ON THAT. |
00:12:56 | >> I THINK IN OHIO, ONE OF THE REASONS THE STATE IS A SWING |
00:13:01 | STATE -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG -- THE INDEPENDENT VOTERS. |
00:13:05 | THE REAGAN DEMOCRATS WHO ARE NOT NECESSARILY RICHARD -- |
00:13:10 | REGISTERED TO A PARTY. IS THAT RIGHT? |
00:13:13 | INDEPENDENT VOTERS WILL BE THE KEY? |
00:13:15 | >> THEY ARE ALWAYS THE KEY. THE PARTISANS ARE ALWAYS LOCKED |
00:13:19 | IN. THERE'S MORE THAN ONE OHIO IN |
00:13:22 | THE STATE OF OHIO. IT IS NOT HOMOGENEOUS. |
00:13:24 | YOU OUR RURAL COMMUNITIES, URBAN CENTERS, MANUFACTURING, |
00:13:32 | FARMING, LOTS OF DIFFERENT AREAS. |
00:13:33 | BECAUSE OHIO IS, IN MANY RESPECTS, A MICROCOSM OF THE |
00:13:37 | UNITED STATES, THAT IS WHY IT IS A SWING STATE. |
00:13:39 | MULTIPLE INTERESTS IN THE STATE. BECAUSE THERE ARE MULTIPLE |
00:13:44 | INTERESTS, MULTIPLE OUTCOMES. >> WITH THAT IN MIND, I WONDER |
00:13:47 | IF THIS IS SPEAKING TO THEM, THE INDEPENDENT VOTERS. |
00:13:50 | BOTH CANDIDATES POINTING AT THE OTHER AND SAYS THIS PERSON STAND |
00:13:56 | APART IN 90% OF THE TIME. I WONDER IF THAT IS A TACTIC TO |
00:14:00 | BRING IN INDEPENDENT VOTERS LOOKING NOT TO GET PERSON THAT |
00:14:03 | ARE COMPLETELY ALIGNED WITH A PARTY. |
00:14:05 | IS THAT WHEN YOU SEE? >> ANYTIME THE SEE A CHALLENGE |
00:14:09 | LIKE THAT, THAT IS TYPICALLY IN PLAY. |
00:14:11 | DAVID AND I HAVE TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THE VOTERS WE |
00:14:18 | SUPPORT OUR PARTY, BUT SOMETIMES THEY SAY THEY WILL VOTE FOR |
00:14:21 | THESE TWO DEMOCRATS AND THESE TWO REPUBLICANS. |
00:14:23 | FOLKS LIKE THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW ABOUT A |
00:14:26 | LEADER THAT IS OWED MORE OR LESS WITH ONE PARTY BECAUSE THEY MAY |
00:14:28 | CONSIDER THAT A WRONG APPROACH. >> THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THE |
00:14:32 | SENATE RATES IS IT REALLY UNDERSCORES THE IMPORTANCE OF |
00:14:35 | THE CITIZENS UNITED CASE AND THE SUPREME COURT. |
00:14:39 | JOSH MANDEL, AND ANY OF THE YEAR, WOULD HAVE NO BUSINESS |
00:14:41 | RUNNING FOR THE SENATE. HE HAS NO BACKGROUND, NO |
00:14:45 | ABILITIES, NO RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE JOB. |
00:14:47 | HE CANNOT EVEN DO THE JOB HE HAS. |
00:14:49 | I AM IN FAVOR OF PEOPLE WITH AMBITION, BUT THIS IS JUST BLIND |
00:14:54 | AMBITION. THE ONLY THING PROPPING HIM UP |
00:14:56 | IN THIS CASE IS $10 MILLION OF OUTSIDE MONEY FROM PEOPLE WE ARE |
00:15:00 | NOT EVEN SURE WHERE IT IS COMING FROM. |
00:15:01 | SUPER PACS AND VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS. |
00:15:04 | THAT IS THE RESULT OF THE CITIZENS UNITED CASE. |
00:15:07 | IT HELPED NEW TO GINGRICH SURVIVE FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS |
00:15:11 | BECAUSE HE HAD ONE CONTRIBUTOR THAT WAS WILLING TO GIVE HIM $5 |
00:15:14 | MILLION A YEAR. BASICALLY, THE SAME THING IS |
00:15:18 | HAPPENING WITH JOSH MANDEL. WHAT WE'RE REALLY SEEING IS A |
00:15:21 | LOT OF PEOPLE -- JOSH MANDEL HAPPENS TO BE THE BIGGEST |
00:15:25 | EXAMPLE HERE IN OHIO -- WHO ARE NOT QUALIFIED FOR THE OFFICE, |
00:15:28 | BUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE HUGE OUTSIDE MONEY POURING INTO THE |
00:15:32 | OFFICE, HE BECOMES A RESPONSIBLE CANDIDATE. |
00:15:35 | >> THERE IS SOME SUPERPAC MONEY COMING IN SUPPORTING SHERROD |
00:15:39 | BROWN. RIGHT NOW IS NOT MUCH. |
00:15:41 | >> BY THE TIME THIS IS DONE, THE DEMOCRAT LIBERAL SUPERPAC WILL |
00:15:46 | SPEND EQUALLY. THIS IS THE PART OF BARACK OBAMA |
00:15:52 | THAT PROMISES PUBLIC FINANCING. WHEN HE REALIZED HE COULD DO |
00:15:55 | MORE BY NOT DOING PUBLIC FINANCING, CHANGED HIS MIND. |
00:15:58 | THE UNION SUPERTAX -- >> I BET YOU $1,000 RIGHT HERE |
00:16:05 | THAT JOSH MANDEL OUTSPENDS SHERROD BROWN TWO 2TO ONE. |
00:16:13 | >> CERTAINLY, THIS RACE IS GOING TO BRING IN HUGE AMOUNTS OF |
00:16:18 | MONEY. ALREADY HAS. |
00:16:20 | >> THE DEMOCRATIC SUPER PACS WOULD BE A FOOL NOT TO PLAY IN |
00:16:23 | OHIO. >> THEY DO NOT HAVE THE |
00:16:25 | RESOURCES. HERE IS WHAT IS HAPPENING. |
00:16:28 | WHEN YOU HAVE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES WHO ARE BASICALLY |
00:16:31 | SAYING, WE ARE GOING TO CUT YOUR TAXES, YOU ARE A RICH |
00:16:34 | MILLIONAIRE. WE'RE GOING TO CUT YOUR TAXES |
00:16:37 | SUBSTANTIALLY. THERE IS A TREMENDOUS INCENTIVE |
00:16:40 | FOR RICH PEOPLE AND CORPORATIONS TO GIVE MONEY TO THE |
00:16:43 | REPUBLICANS. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE SAME |
00:16:44 | INCENTIVE WITH DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT GOOD |
00:16:47 | GOVERNMENT. WHEN YOU HAVE CANDIDATES LIKE |
00:16:51 | MITT ROMNEY SPENDING MONEY ON CAYMAN ISLANDS, A SWISS BANK |
00:16:55 | ACCOUNTS, ISLANDS IN THE BERMUDA, AND SUPPORTED DOING THE |
00:16:59 | SAME THING, THEY KNOW WHAT KIND OF PRESIDENT WILL HAVE WITH MITT |
00:17:03 | ROMNEY AND WHAT KIND OF SENATOR THEY WILL HAVE FROM JOSH MANDEL. |
00:17:06 | SO IT MAKES SENSE FOR THEM TO SUPPORT THOSE CANDIDATES BY |
00:17:10 | DONATING AS MUCH AS THEY CAN. THEY WILL SEE A GREATER RATE OF |
00:17:13 | RETURN IF THEY ARE ELECTED. >> THE PERSON WHO IS DOING THE |
00:17:22 | INTERNATIONAL INVESTMENT, OF COURSE, IT TURNS OUT, DEBBIE |
00:17:29 | WASSERMAN SCHULTZ, FOR INVESTMENTS. |
00:17:30 | >> SHE SHOULD NOT RUN FOR PRESIDENT EITHER. |
00:17:34 | >> HAVE MULTI MILLIONAIRES LIKE PETER LEWIS IN OHIO. |
00:17:39 | THESE MOVEON.ORG PEOPLE THAT HAVE PUT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS |
00:17:46 | INTO FALSE ACCUSATIONS OF REPUBLICANS. |
00:17:49 | THERE WILL BE MONEY ON BOTH SIDES, AND ANYONE THAT THINKS |
00:17:52 | OTHERWISE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND POLITICS. |
00:17:54 | >> IS THIS GOING TO BE A COATTAIL SITUATION? |
00:17:57 | WHOEVER WINS THE PRESIDENCY WILL BRING ALONG THE U.S. SENATE |
00:18:00 | CANDIDATE WITH THEM? COULD IT BE THE OTHER WAY |
00:18:03 | AROUND? EITHER SHERROD BROWN OR JOSH |
00:18:06 | MANDEL WILL WIN AND BRING THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WITH |
00:18:08 | THEM? >> I THINK SHERROD BROWN WILL |
00:18:12 | OUT PUOLL OBAMA IN THE STATE OF OHIO. |
00:18:19 | THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN OHIO THAT WILL VOTE FOR SHERROD BROWN |
00:18:23 | BUT NOT OBAMA, BECAUSE OBAMA IS BLACK. |
00:18:25 | SIMPLE AS THAT. ALL HAVE TO DO IS READ "THE NEW |
00:18:31 | YORK TIMES," " L.A. TIMES," INTERVIEWS OF PEOPLE DONE IN |
00:18:39 | THAT PART OF OHIO. >> THE NOTION OF PEOPLE THAT |
00:18:43 | REJECT BARACK OBAMA -- >> I DID NOT SAY ANYBODY. |
00:18:48 | I JUST SAID MORE. >> WOULD JOSH MANDEL BE SOMEBODY |
00:18:54 | THAT PEOPLE WOULD VOTE FOR? DOES MITT ROMNEY HAVE TO WIN FOR |
00:18:57 | JOSH MANDEL TO WIN? >> IS SO MUCH MONEY ON BOTH |
00:19:01 | SIDES. OHIOAN WILL NO JOSH MANDEL AND |
00:19:04 | JERRY BROWN. THEY WILL VOTE INDEPENDENT OF |
00:19:07 | THEIR PRESIDENTIAL RACE. COATTAILS -- |
00:19:11 | >> I CANNOT IMAGINE ANYONE VOTING FOR BARACK OBAMA AND JOSH |
00:19:16 | MANDEL AT THE SAME TIME. I CANNOT IMAGINE ANYONE GOING IN |
00:19:21 | THERE TO VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA AND JOSH MANDEL. |
00:19:24 | >> GOING DOWN THE TICKET, ANY THOUGHT ON THE STATEHOUSE, |
00:19:28 | WHETHER THE DEMOCRATS WILL TAKE OVER IN THE HOUSE? |
00:19:29 | >> THINK IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT WITH THE LINES HAVE |
00:19:34 | BEEN DRAWN. >> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT. |
00:19:37 | THE VOTERS FIRST AMENDMENT COULD BE ON THE BALLOT. |
00:19:39 | A CITIZENS' COMMISSION TO REDRAW THE LINES. |
00:19:42 | DO YOU THINK THERE IS ANY APPETITE AMONG THE VOTERS TO DO |
00:19:45 | THAT? ALL THE BATTLES LAST YEAR OVER |
00:19:48 | THE MAPS, DO YOU THINK THAT IS DRIVING PEOPLE TO WANT TO MAKE |
00:19:51 | THE CHANGE? >> I THINK IT INSIDE BASEBALL TO |
00:19:56 | AN EXTENT. WE SHOULD DO THAT. |
00:19:57 | WHETHER WE DO IT THIS YEAR WILL BE UP TO THE VOTERS. |
00:20:00 | WE SHOULD NOT MOVE TO SOME SORT OF SYSTEM WHERE THE POLITICAL |
00:20:03 | PARTIES ARE NOT THE ONE STRONG THE LINES. |
00:20:04 | I THINK LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE IN TERROR OF THAT. |
00:20:09 | WHETHER THAT IS ENOUGH TO FIRE PEOPLE UP TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE |
00:20:12 | ON ELECTION DAY, I DO NOT KNOW. >> WE LEARNED IN 2005 WITH THE |
00:20:18 | DEMOCRATS, REFORM OHIO NOW, FIVE DIFFERENT BALLOT ISSUES. |
00:20:20 | OVERWHELMINGLY DEFEATED. HAVING A BUNCH OF INSIDER DRAW |
00:20:25 | THE LINES IN SECRET, MY GUESS IS THE VOTERS WILL NOT GO FOR THAT. |
00:20:28 | >> OHIO'S ECONOMY IS IMPROVING. IS THAT GOING TO BE THE BIG |
00:20:33 | ISSUE THAT VOTERS WILL BE THINKING ABOUT WHEN THEY GO TO |
00:20:35 | VOTE? WILL THEY BE THINKING ABOUT THE |
00:20:37 | OHIO ECONOMY, NATIONAL ECONOMY, OR SOMETHING ELSE? |
00:20:41 | >> I THINK WHAT ABOUT THE ECONOMY. |
00:20:43 | IT IS A TOP ISSUE, I THINK. PEOPLE WILL MEMBER THE FACT THAT |
00:20:48 | BARACK OBAMA INHERITED AN ECONOMY BEFORE 0.4 MILLION JOBS |
00:20:52 | LOST IN THE U.S. 900,000 JOBS LOST THE DAY HE |
00:20:56 | TOOK OFFICE AS PRESIDENT. SINCE THEN, 28 MONTHS A POSITIVE |
00:21:00 | JOB GROWTH. PEOPLE IN NORTHEAST OHIO WILL |
00:21:03 | REMEMBER THE FACT THAT MITT ROMNEY'S ANSWER TO THE |
00:21:08 | AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY GOING BANKRUPT WAS TO BUY HIS WIFE |
00:21:09 | MORE CADILLACS. BARACK OBAMA WENT OUT AND SAVED |
00:21:14 | THE AUTO INDUSTRY IN THE UNITED STATES. |
00:21:16 | PEOPLE IN NORTHEAST OHIO WILL APPRECIATE THAT. |
00:21:18 | >> ECONOMY WILL BE IMPORTANT. PEOPLE WILL SAY WE HAVE NOT GONE |
00:21:23 | AS FAR AS WE WOULD LIKE TO GO AS FAR AS IMPROVING ECONOMY, BUT |
00:21:26 | THINGS ARE MUCH BETTER THAN WHEN BARACK OBAMA STARTED. |
00:21:31 | >> IS BARACK OBAMA GOING TO GET THE CREDIT OR IS JOHN KASICH |
00:21:34 | GOING TO GET SOME OF THE CREDIT? >> LOOKING AT THE POLL NUMBERS, |
00:21:39 | BUT STILL HAVING TROUBLE BREAKING 40% AT THIS POINT IN |
00:21:42 | TIME, IF THERE IS ANY CREDIT TO BE GIVEN TO THE ECONOMY, IT WILL |
00:21:46 | PROBABLY GO TO BARACK OBAMA. >> NOBODY THINKS THAT JOHN |
00:21:50 | CREDIT -- JOHN KASICH WILL GET CREDIT. |
00:21:52 | NATIONALLY, PROBABLY THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE THE JOB |
00:21:56 | SITUATION IS BETTER UNDER BARACK OBAMA ARE THE DEMOCRATS. |
00:21:59 | FOR A MAN THREE YEARS INTO HIS PRESIDENCY TO STILL SAY, I |
00:22:03 | INHERITED THIS PROBLEM -- THIS IS A GUY WHO SAID IF I DO NOT |
00:22:07 | TURN IT AROUND, IT WILL BE A ONE-TERM PROPOSITION. |
00:22:10 | HE SAID, LET'S SPEND $3.20 TRILLION, AND I PROMISE TO GET |
00:22:15 | ON THE BLOOD UNDER 8%. NEITHER OF THOSE THINGS |
00:22:18 | HAPPENED. THIS IS A REFERENDUM ON HIS |
00:22:21 | PROMISES. >> HASN'T MITT ROMNEY ALSO MAKE |
00:22:25 | PROMISES ON WHAT HE WOULD DO WITH THE ECONOMY, SPECIFICALLY |
00:22:27 | THE ON THE CLIMATE RIGHT? >> AND HE OUGHT TO BE HELD |
00:22:31 | ACCOUNTABLE, JUST LIKE BARACK OBAMA. |
00:22:35 | LET'S BILLY BARACK OBAMA, PRESUME HE IS BEING TRUTHFUL. |
00:22:38 | >> WHEN MITT ROMNEY HAD A CHANCE TO BE AN EXECUTIVE, ONCE UPON A |
00:22:45 | TIME, IN MASSACHUSETTS, HIS STATE RANKED 42ND OUT OF 50 IN |
00:22:50 | JOB GROWTH. THE OTHER THING HE HAS DONE IS |
00:22:53 | SHIPPING JOBS TO CHINA. HE HAS BEEN A JOBS CREATOR, AS |
00:22:57 | OPPOSED TO A CREATOR. -- CREMATOR, AS OPPOSED TO A |
00:23:05 | CREATOR. FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE A |
00:23:09 | JOB, THEY REALIZE THAT. WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT |
00:23:12 | DIRECTION. WE ARE BUILDING AN ECONOMY THAT |
00:23:14 | IS BUILT TO LAST. THAT IS WHY PEOPLE WILL SUPPORT |
00:23:18 | BARACK OBAMA. >> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE |
00:23:20 | PRESIDENTIAL RACE AND SENATE RACE. |
00:23:23 | A LOT OF FACTS BEING DRAWN AROUND, BY BOTH OF YOU, TOO, AND |
00:23:27 | THE OTHER SIDE SAYING IT IS NOT TRUE. |
00:23:29 | IT IS REALLY AMAZING TO SEE INFORMATION THAT IS TRUE, NOT |
00:23:33 | TRUE, IT IS HARD TO SORT OUT. >> THE GOOD NEWS IS THERE ARE |
00:23:38 | SOME INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATIONS TO SET SPECIFICALLY SOME OF THE |
00:23:41 | THINGS THAT DAVID SAID WERE FALSE. |
00:23:43 | >> WAS NOT FOR ME, IT WAS FROM "THE WASHINGTON POST." |
00:23:49 | JOB EXPORTS AT HIS COMPANY BAIN CAPITAL. |
00:23:53 | >> I WILL BACK CHECKED THEM. >> DO YOU BELIEVE POLITIFACT? |
00:24:03 | >> OFTEN, BUT I HAVE FOUND THEM TO BE WRONG BEFORE. |
00:24:07 | IN VIRGINIA, THEY PUT OUT A DOSSIER THAT SAID THAT THEY WERE |
00:24:11 | WRONG ON SEVERAL POINTS. >> THEY HAVE CALLED THE JOSH |
00:24:14 | MANDEL ON SEVERAL POINTS. >> BOTH SIDES WILL GET EXTREME |
00:24:18 | WITH THEIR RHETORIC, BUT THEIR PLACE AS THE VOTERS WILL GO TO |
00:24:21 | FIND OUT THE SPIN OF BARACK OBAMA, THE POLITICS OF |
00:24:26 | DISTRACTION AWAY FROM HIS ECONOMIC RECORD. |
00:24:28 | THERE ARE PLACES THAT THE VOTERS CAN GO TO DECODE THAT. |
00:24:32 | >> YOU THINK THEY WILL? >> I HOPE SO. |
00:24:35 | IT IS IMPORTANT THAT EDUCATORS BE -- VOTERS BE EDUCATED. |
00:24:39 | IF WE HAVE MITT ROMNEY, WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE DICK CHENEY, |
00:24:45 | BUSH YEARS OF ALL THE MONEY GOING TO THE WEALTHY AND THE |
00:24:48 | ECONOMY GOING IN THE TOILET. IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO |
00:24:51 | UNDERSTAND, ALL OF THIS SMOKE AND MIRRORS COMING OUT OF THE |
00:24:54 | REPUBLICAN PARTY ABOUT THIS AND THAT, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE |
00:24:57 | TO UNDERSTAND THE FACTS AND HOW WE NEED TO CONTINUE. |
00:25:01 | >> WE CAN AGREE ON THAT POINT. PEOPLE NEED TO DO THEIR |
00:25:05 | HOMEWORK BE DONE THERE ARE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO. |
00:25:07 | THERE IS NOT A SINGLE POLITICIAN CALLING FOR THAT. |
00:25:12 | >> MITT ROMNEY IS. ALL THE TAX BREAKS ARE GOING TO |
00:25:16 | THE WEALTHY. >> CLASS WELFARE. |
00:25:20 | >> 98% OF THE PEOPLE -- MITT ROMNEY WANTS TAX BREAKS FOR ALL |
00:25:27 | OF THIS WILL BE BODIES, ALL OF HIS MILLIONAIRE BUDDIES. |
00:25:30 | >> THIS IS A PREVIEW OF WHAT WE WILL SEE FOR THE NEXT FOUR |
00:25:35 | MONTHS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING |
00:25:37 | HERE. |
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