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KAREN: ANOTHER MAJOR
00:00:32PRESIDENTIAL EVENT IS SCHEDULED
FOR OHIO NEXT YEAR.
00:00:34AND THE FIRST ISSUE ON THIS
YEAR'S BALLOT MAY BE THE MOST
00:00:38OVERLOOKED.
A CONVERSATION WITH THE
00:00:40BIPARTISAN CHAIRS OF THE GROUP
WORKING TO CHANGE THE WAY
00:00:42OFFICIALS DRAW THE LINES ON THE
MAP OF STATE LAWMAKERS'
00:00:44DISTRICTS.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:00:48OHIO".
THE ELECTION OF 2015 IS ALMOST
00:01:01UNDERWAY.
EARLY VOTING BEGINS ON OCTOBER
00:01:03IN LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AWAY.
BUT OHIO IS GETTING ATTENTION
00:01:11BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THAT'S NOW
ON THE SCHEDULE FOR ALMOST
00:01:13EXACTLY A YEAR FROM NOW.
THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL
00:01:15DEBATES WILL BRING THE FIRST
PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE OF THE
00:01:17GENERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN TO THE
NUTTER CENTER AT WRIGHT STATE
00:01:19UNIVERSITY IN DAYTON ON
SEPTEMBER 26, 2016.
00:01:21INTERESTINGLY, THAT'S WHERE
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE JOHN MCCAIN
00:01:24INTRODUCED SARAH PALIN AS HIS
RUNNING MATE IN 2008.
00:01:29THAT PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE WILL
HAPPEN ALMOST TWO MONTHS AFTER
00:01:32THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL
CONVENTION IN CLEVELAND.
00:01:34AND SPEAKING OF NEXT YEAR'S
BALLOT, THE GROUP BACKING THIS
00:01:37YEAR'S ISSUE 3 IS ALREADY
LOOKING AHEAD FOR AN ISSUE IT'S
00:01:39PLANNING FOR 2016.
RESPONSIBLEOHIO ANNOUNCED THIS
00:01:43WEEK IT'S TURNED IN NEARLY
237,000 SIGNATURES FOR THE
00:01:47SO-CALLED FRESH START ACT, WHICH
WOULD CREATE A WAY TO PURGE OLD
00:01:50POT-RELATED CONVICTIONS MADE
OBSOLETE IF MARIJUANA IS
00:01:53LEGALIZED THIS FALL.
THAT'S MORE THAN TWICE AS MANY
00:02:02SIGNATURES AS ARE NEEDED TO
START THE PROCESS TO PUT THE
00:02:03ISSUE BEFORE STATE LAWMAKERS.
BUT THE GROUP HAD A VALIDATION
00:02:06RATE OF ONLY AROUND 42% WHEN IT
TURNED IN SIGNATURES FOR ISSUE
00:02:093, WHICH MEANT IT HAD TO GO BACK
OUT AND GATHER MORE SIGNATURES.
00:02:17IF LAWMAKERS DECLINE TO ENACT
THE FRESH START ACT, RESPONSIBLE
00:02:21OHIO WOULD GATHER MORE
SIGNATURES OF NEGATIVE VOTERS
00:02:23NEXT YEAR -- AND TAKE IT TO
VOTERS NEXT YEAR.
00:02:26AND BIG NEWS THIS WEEK FROM THE
STATE REGARDING BIG TECH
00:02:28COMPANIES.
UBER WANTS TO ADD 10,000 MORE
00:02:30DRIVERS ACROSS THE STATE NEXT
YEAR, AND WAS JOINED BY HOUSE
00:02:32SPEAKER CLIFF ROSENBERGER AND
SENATE PRESIDENT KEITH FABER.
00:02:34THE HOUSE HAS VOTED ON A BILL TO
CREATE MORE UNIFORM REGULATIONS
00:02:40FOR RIDESHARING SERVICES.
THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR UBER AND
00:02:41ITS COMPETITOR LYFT, WHICH IS IN
CLEVELAND AND CINCINNATI BUT HAS
00:02:45SUSPENDED ITS OPERATIONS IN
COLUMBUS BECAUSE OF NEW LOCAL
00:02:47RULES.
AND GOOGLE IS WORKING WITH THE
00:02:50SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE ON A
PROJECT THAT'S AIMED AT HELPING
00:02:53ENTREPRENEURS SET UP BUSINESSES.
THE PROGRAM WILL ALLOW SMALL
00:02:57BUSINESSES ACCESS TO FREE TOOLS
AND COMMUNITY RESOURCES FROM
00:03:01GOOGLE TO PROMOTE THEIR NEW
SERVICES AND PRODUCTS SO THEY
00:03:05CAN BUILD WEBSITES, RESERVE FREE
DOMAIN NAMES, HAVE THEIR OFFICE
00:03:07LOCATIONS REGISTERED ON GOOGLE
MAPS AND GET ADVICE FROM
00:03:11EXPERTS.
AND THIS COMES AS JON HUSTED
00:03:14ANNOUNCED THE COST OF
REGISTERING A NEW BUSINESS WITH
00:03:17THE STATE DROPPED BY 21 PERCENT,
FROM $125 TO $99.
00:03:22FOR AN OFF-YEAR ELECTION, THIS
ONE WILL BE BUSY.
00:03:24THERE ARE THREE STATEWIDE ISSUES
ON THE BALLOT.
00:03:26WHILE THE MARIJUANA LEGALIZATION
, ISSUE 3, AND ISSUE 2 BY
00:03:33EXTENSION, WILL GET MOST OF THE
ATTENTION, THE FIRST ONE VOTERS
00:03:35WILL SEE IS ALSO A BIG DEAL.
ISSUE 1 WILL CHANGE THE PROCESS
00:03:38BY WHICH STATE LAWMAKERS
DISTRICT LINES ARE DRAWN.
00:03:42AND IF THAT DOESN'T SEEM VERY
INTERESTING, CONSIDER THIS.
00:03:46LAST YEAR REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES
FOR THE OHIO HOUSE GOT 57% OF
00:03:47THE VOTE BUT CLAIMED A
SUPERMAJORITY IN THE HOUSE.
00:03:52AND IN THE LAST TWO ELECTIONS,
THE POLITICAL PARTY THAT WAS
00:03:54FAVORED TO WIN BECAUSE OF THE
WAY THE MAP WAS DRAWN DID WIN
00:03:5798% OF THE TIME.
ISSUE 1 REPLACES FIVE MEMBER
00:04:02APPORTIONMENT BOARD MADE UP OF
THE GOVERNOR, THE AUDITOR, THE
00:04:05SECRETARY OF STATE, AND A STATE
LAWMAKER FROM EITHER PARTY WITH
00:04:08A SEVEN MEMBER BIPARTISAN
COMMISSION.
00:04:11THAT PANEL WOULD BE MADE UP OF
THE SAME EXECUTIVES THE
00:04:14, GOVERNOR, THE AUDITOR AND THE
SECRETARY OF STATE BUT WITH FOUR
00:04:18, LEGISLATIVE APPOINTEES.
AND THE PROPOSAL HAS GOTTEN
00:04:20WIDESPREAD SUPPORT.
LAST YEAR IT PASSED
00:04:23OVERWHELMINGLY IN THE HOUSE AND
WAS ONE VOTE SHORT OF UNANIMOUS
00:04:25IN THE SENATE, WHICH GOT IT TO
THE BALLOT.
00:04:28IT'S BEEN ENDORSED BY A WIDE
VARIETY OF GROUPS, INCLUDING THE
00:04:31LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS, THE OHIO
COUNCIL OF RETAIL MERCHANTS,
00:04:35NUNS ON THE BUS, THE OHIO
LEGISLATIVE BLACK CAUCUS, THE
00:04:38OHIO FARMERS UNION, THE OHIO
STATE BAR ASSOCIATION, VARIOUS
00:04:41CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND LABOR
UNIONS AND BOTH MAJOR POLITICAL
00:04:43PARTIES.
I'M PLEASED TO WELCOME TWO
00:04:47FORMER LONGTIME LAWMAKERS FROM
THOSE TWO PARTIES WHO HAVE
00:04:50JOINED TOGETHER NOW THAT THEY'VE
RECENTLY DEPARTED FROM THE
00:04:53LEGISLATURE TO PUSH FOR ISSUE 1.
FORMER REPRESENTATIVE MATT
00:05:00HUFFMAN IS A REPUBLICAN FROM
LIMA, AND VERNON SYKES IS A
00:05:02DEMOCRAT FROM AKRON, AND THEY'RE
THE CO-CHAIRS OF FAIR DISTRICTS
00:05:04FOR OHIO.
WELCOME GENTLEMEN.
00:05:08THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
I WANT TO START WITH THE IDEA
00:05:15FROM A TRANSITION FROM A
FIVE-MEMBER COMMISSION TO A
00:05:16SEVEN-MEMBER COMMISSION.
THEY ARE ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS.
00:05:18THAT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A BIG
CHANGE TO SOME PEOPLE.
00:05:26TELL ME WHY IS THIS PROPOSAL SO
MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE
00:05:33NOW AND SO MUCH BETTER THAN
PROPOSALS THAT HAVE BEEN
00:05:34REJECTED BY VOTERS IN THE PAST?
REP. HUFFMAN: ESSENTIALLY, THE
00:05:42INCENTIVES FOR BOTH SIDES, FOR
THE MAJORITY, WAS TO NOT TAKE
00:05:47INTO ACCOUNT WITH THE MINORITY
WANTED, IF IT WAS TO THEIR
00:05:50BENEFIT TO DO THAT.
THERE ARE A VARIETY OF NEW RULES
00:05:55THAT HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED THAT
ARE GOING TO RESTRICT WITH THE
00:05:56MINORITY -- MAJORITY CAN DO TO
THE MINORITY PARTY, BUT MORE
00:06:01IMPORTANTLY THE FACT THAT IF THE
MINORITY DOES NOT AGREE, THE MAP
00:06:09WILL ONLY LAST FOR FOUR YEARS.
THE MAJORITY CAN STILL REDRAW
00:06:13THE MAP AFTER FOUR YEARS, SO YOU
MAY SAY HOW DOES THAT HELP?
00:06:15THE ANSWER IS LEGISLATORS AND
THE OTHER FOLKS INVOLVED IN ALL
00:06:21OF THE DISTRICT TO CHANGE IN
THAT AMOUNT OF TIME.
00:06:23THEY HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO GET A
TENURE MAP, AND THAT IS TRUE FOR
00:06:29THE MAJORITY PARTY AND THE
MINORITY PARTY BECAUSE OF THE
00:06:32RELATIONSHIPS AND THINGS LIKE
THAT.
00:06:33WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY REVERSED THE
INCENTIVE OF THE INCENTIVE IS
00:06:37NOW WORK OUT A COMPROMISE WITH
BOTH SIDES.
00:06:40THAT IS REALLY THE BASIC
DIFFERENCE.
00:06:43KAREN: LET ME ASK YOU TO WEIGH
IN.
00:06:48MR. SYKES: WHEN YOU ARE
INCREASING THE NUMBER FROM FIVE
00:06:55TO SEVEN, YOU HAVE TWO MINORITY
MEMBERS PRETTY WANT TO MAKE A
00:06:56COMMISSION ORIGIN OF SO THAT WE
COULD HAVE THAT PERSPECTIVE.
00:06:58KAREN: WHY WAS THERE NO
CONSIDERATION, MAYBE I'M NOT
00:07:06AWARE OF IT, OF AN INDEPENDENT
COMMISSION, LIKE CALIFORNIA AND
00:07:08ARIZONA HAVE DONE?
WHY NOT DO THAT?
00:07:09MR. SYKES: AS POLITICIANS WE ARE
SKEPTICAL OF TRYING TO DETERMINE
00:07:18WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IS
NONPARTISAN AND WE FEEL THAT
00:07:22EVERYONE HAS A POSITION ON
ISSUES.
00:07:25THE PARTISANS, WE KNOW WHAT THEY
ARE BASICALLY VERY WITH THE
00:07:33NONPARTISAN, WE DO NOT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS
00:07:34AN INCLUSIVE PERSON PLEA OF A
BIPARTISAN COMMISSION --
00:07:40PURPOSELY OF A BIPARTISAN
COMMISSION.
00:07:43ONE REPRESENTATION FROM BOTH OF
THE MAJOR PARTIES.
00:07:45REP. HUFFMAN: I WOULD ADD THAT
THIS PROPOSAL RECOGNIZES THE
00:07:48PEOPLE OF SELF INTERESTS, AND
THAT THE PUBLIC AND >> PEOPLE TO
00:07:51PUT FORWARD THE POSITIONS THAT
THEY WANT.
00:07:53AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION, OR AN
ALLEGED INDEPENDENT COMMISSION
00:08:00BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT
EXISTS, ACT AS THAT IS NOT TRUE
00:08:04WHEN WE KNOW IT IS NOT TRUE --
WHEN WE KNOW IT IS TRUE.
00:08:06WE RECOGNIZE THE ATTENTION FROM
BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES AND
00:08:14CREATE RULES THAT ARE
COMPETITIVE AND TIRESOME BUT
00:08:16EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE
CAN ACT ACCORDINGLY.
00:08:17KAREN: THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE
SHORT-TERM MAP.
00:08:21THIS WOULD BE AN INCENTIVE TO
REACH A COMPROMISE.
00:08:24COULD WE NOT END UP TODAY
CHAOTIC SITE ALL OF SHORT-TERM
00:08:31MAP AFTER SHORT-TERM MAP?
REP. HUFFMAN: THEORETICALLY THAT
00:08:37IS TRUE.
THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
00:08:40THE PEOPLE ON THIS COMMISSION
ARE GOING TO WANT TO AVOID.
00:08:41WHOEVER GETS ELECTED IN 2018 IS
GOING TO BE ON THIS COMMISSION.
00:08:49THEY WANT TO ELECTION IN 2000
22, ARE THEY GOING TO BE THE GUY
00:08:56WHO NOT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT FOR
THE MINORITY WANTED -- WHAT THE
00:09:01MINORITY WANTED?
IT IS THE STATE OFFICEHOLDERS,
00:09:05AND THE ARGUMENT IN THE CASE IS
OUR MORE INTRON PARTY RATHER
00:09:09THAN INTRAPARTY -- INTRAPARTY
RATHER THAN INTERPARTY.
00:09:23MOST WILL SAY JUST LET A
COMPUTER DO IT, BUT DEMOCRACY IS
00:09:30BY HAVING EVERYONE PARTICIPATE.
KAREN: DEMOCRATS HAVE TAKEN SOME
00:09:35HEAT FOR WAITING FOR QUITE A
WHILE TO ACTUALLY COME OUT AND
00:09:40ENDORSE ISSUE ONE, WHICH THEY
DID.
00:09:43DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHY TO THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY SO LONG TO COME
00:09:46OUT AND OFFICIALLY ENDORSE IT?
MR. SYKES: I GUESS PART OF THE
00:09:52REASON IS THEY ARE A LITTLE
SUSPICIOUS IF THE REPUBLICAN
00:09:58PARTY IS TOTALLY IN SUPPORT OF
THIS.
00:09:59THEY HAD TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO
DUE DILIGENCE, AND THEY HAD
00:10:07RESEARCH FIRMS LOOK AT IT TO
LOOK AT THE CRITERIA AND NOT
00:10:09JUST WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY,
BUT THE LONG-TERM.
00:10:12THEY ARE LOOKING AT THESE
STUDIES, AND IT WAS CONCLUDED
00:10:18THAT IT WAS STILL THE BEST
INTEREST OF BOTH PARTIES, OF THE
00:10:21PUBLIC AT LARGE THAT WE ADOPT
THIS.
00:10:22KAREN: SHOULD REPUBLICANS BE
OFFENDED THE DEMOCRATS ARE
00:10:27SUSPICIOUS OF THIS?
THIS IS A PLAN THAT CAME FROM A
00:10:31REPUBLICAN DOMINATED LEDGES
LATER, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WAS
00:10:34AN EARLY ENDORSER OF THIS.
THE DEMOCRATS SAME WHITENESS IS
00:10:38GOOD FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY?
REP. HUFFMAN: IF YOU'RE EASILY
00:10:44OFFENDED, YOU'RE IN THE WRONG
BUSINESS.
00:10:45[LAUGHTER]
ANYBODY HAVE PUBLIC OFFICE NEEDS
00:10:49TO HAVE A THICK HIDE.
THE ANSWER REALLY IS WE SAT DOWN
00:10:54IN THE LATE SUMMER AND FALL,
REPRESENTATIVE SYKES AND I BEGAN
00:10:59TALKING ABOUT THIS.
THERE WAS A LARGE GROUP OF
00:11:04PEOPLE WORKING WITH
REPRESENTATIVE SYKES WHO
00:11:06EXAMINED THIS.
THE INITIAL PROPOSAL CHANGED
00:11:11SIGNIFICANTLY, BUT NOT ITS CORE
FUNCTION, WHICH IS A MAJORITY OF
00:11:16THE PEOPLE WHO GET ELECTED TO
MAKE THESE DECISIONS WILL DO IT.
00:11:18THE ANSWER TO THIS IS, AND I'VE
SAID THIS TO MANY PEOPLE, I AM
00:11:25NOT DOING THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO
HELP THE DEMOCRATS WIN MORE
00:11:27SEATS, AND I WOULD DO VERY CLEAR
ABOUT THAT.
00:11:30I AM REPUBLICAN BECAUSE I THINK
THEY DO BETTER JOB OF GOVERNING,
00:11:36AND I THINK BURDEN WOULD HAVE
THE OPPOSITE OPINION.
00:11:37I THINK THAT WHAT WE DO NOT WANT
IS A GROUP OF OUTSIDE PEOPLE
00:11:43COMING IN WITH LOTS OF MONEY AND
SAYING HERE IS HOW YOU ARE GOING
00:11:45TO DRY YOUR DISTRICTS IN OHIO
JOSH -- DRAW YOUR DISTRICTS IN
00:11:50OHIO.
WE SAT DOWN IN A COHERENT,
00:11:54INTELLIGENT, CALL, DISPASSIONATE
WAY, AND THROUGH A SET OF RULES
00:12:00UP SO THAT NO MATTER WHICH PARTY
HAS CONTROL OF THE VERSION LORD,
00:12:05IT IS AN UNDERSTANDABLE, CLEAR,
FAIR PROCESS.
00:12:09REMEMBER, IT HAS NOT BEEN TOO
LONG AGO THAT THE DEMOCRATS
00:12:14CONTROLLED THE APPORTIONMENT
PROCESS, AS LATE AS 2010.
00:12:18THE REPUBLICANS MAY BE ON THE
OTHER SIDE.
00:12:22I THINK THIS IS WHAT THE PUBLIC
HAS DEMANDED SO MANY TIMES, CAN
00:12:32BOTH PARTIES SIT DOWN AND WORK
OUT A BIPARTISAN SOLUTION?
00:12:33WE HAVE DONE THAT.
AND THAT IS WHY THEY ARE
00:12:36EMBRACING IT.
MR. SYKES: AND ALSO, WE HAVE
00:12:42SPENT A LOT OF TIME STUDYING
THIS ISSUE.
00:12:43THE HOUSE HAS GONE THROUGH A
DELIBERATIONS WITH THE SENATE AS
00:12:47WELL.
THE LEGISLATURE TOOK A LOT OF
00:12:52TIME, AND BOTH PARTIES HAVE
REVIEWED THIS OVER AND OVER
00:12:57AGAIN.
WE HAVE THE WOMEN'S LEAGUE OF
00:13:02VOTERS THAT HAS BEEN INVOLVED
WITH THIS ISSUE FOR QUITE SOME
00:13:03TIME.
WE LIVED AND REVIEWED IT
00:13:05EXTENSIVELY.
WE CAN SAFELY SAY THAT THIS
00:13:09PROPOSAL HAS BEEN GIVEN A LOT OF
SCRUTINY AND BEEN GIVEN THE
00:13:16THUMBS UP.
WE HAVEN'T TO THE BEST
00:13:18ADVANTAGE.
KAREN: TWO DURING THE PROCESS,
00:13:25THERE WILL BE OPEN MEETINGS.
WHILE THAT A LINKING SKILLE, OR
00:13:28DO YOU THINK THAT THEY -- DO YOU
THINK THAT WHILE ALAIN PEOPLES
00:13:35EARS, OR DO YOU THINK THE REAL
CONVERSATION OR HAPPENING BEHIND
00:13:38CLOSED DOORS?
REP. HUFFMAN: THERE WILL BE A
00:13:45LOT OF DISCUSSION BEHIND CLOSED
DOORS, THE CONSTITUENT CALLS ME
00:13:47AND WEIGHS IN ON ANYTHING, I DO
NOT GO TO NEWSPAPERS AND SAY
00:13:50WHAT A BIKE OF DIGITAL IT'S JUST
CALL ME, BECAUSE THEN THEY DO
00:13:54NOT CALL.
-- ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS JUST
00:13:58CALL, BECAUSE THEN THEY DO NOT
CALL.
00:13:59ANOTHER FACTOR, WHICH I THINK IS
IMPORTANT IS THAT THE PUBLIC
00:14:08UNDERSTANDS, AND SOME OF THE
SPECIFIC WAYS THAT THESE
00:14:14DISTRICTS ARE SHAPED, WHY THEY
LOOK LIKE THAT.
00:14:15NO MATTER HOW THESE MAPS ARE
DRAWN, THERE ARE POPULATION
00:14:20REQUIREMENTS, THE VOTING RIGHTS
ACT, AND A LOCAL JURISDICTIONS,
00:14:23SO PEOPLE SAY HOW CAN THAT
SQUIGGLY LINE BEING ME, THAT
00:14:26MUST BE GERRYMANDERING.
SOME WILL STAND AT A PODIUM IN
00:14:31CINCINNATI, AND TO THAT IS HOW
THAT IS LIKE THAT.
00:14:33THERE IS A CITY THERE, AND THE
CITY GREW OVER THE LAST HUNDRED
00:14:3850 YEARS, AND WE HAD TO KEEP
THAT CITY THE WAY IT IS UNDER
00:14:40THE RULES.
THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE THAT LINE
00:14:42THERE.
PEOPLE WILL HOPEFULLY SAY, NOW
00:14:49WE UNDERSTAND BECAUSE SOMEONE IS
EXPLAINING DID TO US VERSUS
00:14:51HERE'S THE MAP, SEE YOU IN 10
YEARS.
00:14:52PERINATAL WE ALSO PUT IN SOME
PROVISIONS THAT THE MAN HAS TO
00:14:59BE DISCLOSED WEEK BEFORE IT IS
ADOPTED -- WEEKS BEFORE IT IS
00:15:05ADOPTED.
USUALLY GO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS,
00:15:08HE MAKES DECISIONS AND VOTED UP.
WHEN I GO TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC AN
00:15:10OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT, AND AS
WELL YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE AN
00:15:16EXPLANATION OF WHY YOU FEEL ITS
COMPLIES WITH THE GUIDELINES.
00:15:25TOO OFTEN THAT HAS NOT BEEN
DONE.
00:15:27YOU MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THE
EXCAVATION OF WHY THINGS WERE
00:15:31DONE A CERTAIN WAY.
WE FEEL THAT THIS DISCLOSURE'S
00:15:36GOING TO MAKE THE PROCESS MORE
OPEN AND FAIR.
00:15:37KAREN: IF MORE DEMOCRATS DO NOT
WINS THE 20 YOU WORRY THAT
00:15:41PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY THIS DID
NOT WORK?
00:15:42THIS WAS A WASTED CHANGE IN THE
PROCESS?
00:15:46MR. SYKES: THERE ARE A LOT OF
VARIABLES WHO WINS ELECTIONS.
00:15:49DRAWING A LINE IS A SIGNIFICANT
FACTOR, BUT WHO RAISES THE MOST
00:15:56MONEY, WHO IS BEST ON THE
ISSUES, MAYBE THERE ARE SOME
00:15:58OTHER VARIABLES THAT HAVE BEEN.
MAYBE SOMEBODY GOT A DUI OR
00:16:03WHATEVER THERE ARE A LOT OF
OTHER REASONS WHY THIS IS NOT
00:16:07THE ONLY REASON.
WE THINK THIS CAN EVEN OF THE
00:16:15PLAYING FIELD WHEN THEY GO INTO
THE ELECTION.
00:16:16REP. HUFFMAN: THAT IS TACKLING
IT.
00:16:18LINES ARE VERY IMPORTANT
COMMITMENT THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE
00:16:22IS OUR CANDIDATES.
THERE ARE DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW
00:16:26WHERE IT A FAIRLY HEAVILY
FAVORED DEMOCRAT CANDIDATES WERE
00:16:32REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN ELECTED.
FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE, WHEN
00:16:35THERE IS SOMEONE IN THE WHITE
HOUSE, PEOPLE BEGIN TO TAKE THAT
00:16:39OUT ON NOVEMBER IT IS THAT IS
VOTING.
00:16:41IT HAPPENED WITH GEORGE BUSH, IN
2006 REPUBLICANS LOST CONTROL
00:16:48THE MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES, 2008, EXCUSE
00:16:52ME.
AND THEN THAT STARTED CHANGING.
00:16:54THE REAL ISSUE IS WE WANT A SET
OF RULES THAT EVERYONE
00:17:00UNDERSTANDS, AND WE WILL CREATE
A SITUATION WHERE BOTH PARTIES
00:17:05HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMPETE
IN SOME OF THE CLOSER DISTRICTS.
00:17:10WE KNOW THAT IN MY PART OF THE
STATE WILL NOT BE ANY DEMOCRATS
00:17:15ELECTED, AND IN DOWNTOWN
CLEVELAND THERE WILL PROBABLY
00:17:19NOT BE ANY REPUBLICANS ELECTED.
THERE IS THAT MIDDLE THIRD WERE
00:17:23THE CHANGES ARE.
AND STILL, IN MY MIND, GOING TO
00:17:27END UP WITH GOOD CANDIDATES,
GOOD FUNDRAISING, GOOD
00:17:32ORGANIZATION, AND HOW HARD YOU
WORK.
00:17:33MR. SYKES: ONE OF THE REASONS WE
WERE ABLE TO COME TO AN
00:17:37AGREEMENT IS BECAUSE OF THE
SWING STATE.
00:17:40IT IS A 50 50 STATE.
IT IS EASY FOR US TO DRAW A LINE
00:17:48UNFAIRNESS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT
GIVING EITHER PARTY THE
00:17:51ADVANTAGE.
I THINK IT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT
00:17:55IN THE STATE OF OHIO.
KAREN: WHY NOT EXTEND THIS TO
00:18:01CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS?
YOUR WAITING ON THE U.S. SUPREME
00:18:05COURT ON THAT.
WHY NOT MAKE THIS A
00:18:07CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT WAY IN
THE STATE LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS?
00:18:10REP. HUFFMAN: THAT DECISION
ACTUALLY CAME OUT IN JUNE.
00:18:14ESSENTIALLY THE SUPREME COURT
SAID IF A STATE WANTED TO HAVE
00:18:19AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION AND
THE PEOPLE DECIDED THAT THEY CAN
00:18:25DO THAT INSTEAD OF THE
LEGISLATURE, I DISAGREE WITH US,
00:18:28BUT I'M NOT ONLY U.S. SUPREME
COURT.
00:18:29I THINK THERE ARE A FEW PROBLEMS
WITH THAT.
00:18:36ONE IS, REMEMBER THAT IN OHIO
AND UNDER THE OLD SCHEME AND THE
00:18:45NEW SCHEME, THE POPULATION
REQUIREMENTS CAN BE 5% ON EITHER
00:18:48SIDE OF THE AVERAGE DISTRICT.
THE U.S. SUPREME COURT SAYS
00:18:52CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS HAVE TO
BE LOW, OR CANNOT BE DIFFERENT
00:18:55BY MORE THAN ONE PERSON.
THAT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR
00:18:58THE MAP DRAWERS AND THAT IS WHY
YOU TO GO IN AND OUT AND FIND
00:19:03THE APPROPRIATE POPULATION.
THAT IN AND OF ITSELF MEANS THAT
00:19:09THIS WILL NOT WORK FOR
CONGRESSIONAL REDISTRICTING.
00:19:10I THINK THE STATE LEGISLATURE
SHOULD BE DRIED CONGRESSIONAL
00:19:17LINES BECAUSE THE POINT OF OUR
CONSTITUTION WHEN IT WAS FORMED
00:19:19WAS THAT THE STATES HAD SOME
CONTROL OVER THE FEDERAL
00:19:22GOVERNMENT.
THAT IS ONE WAY FOR THE STATES
00:19:24TO DO THAT.
IF WE WERE NOT GOING TO DO THIS,
00:19:27AND THEY HAD THE SAME
SEVEN-MEMBER BOARD WHICH WAS
00:19:31GOING TO DO THAT FOR WHICH I DO
NOT FAVOR, THAT WOULD BE
00:19:34INAPPROPRIATE IN MY MIND.
IN FACT, I UNDERSTAND THAT BOTH
00:19:41WILL BE INTRODUCED IN A VILLAIN
A COUPLE OF INSTANCES WHERE I
00:19:45NOT IN THE LEGISLATURE, SO I DO
NOT GET TO DECIDE THAT.
00:19:46MR. SYKES: WE DO NEED A
DIFFERENT SYSTEM.
00:19:49KAREN: IT IS REALLY TILTED
TOWARD REPUBLICANS.
00:19:55MR. SYKES: I BELIEVE WE NEED A
FAIRER SYSTEM, BUT YOU HAVE TO
00:20:01LOOK AT HISTORY.
WE HAVE HAD THE SYSTEM IN PLACE
00:20:03ABOUT 50 OR 60 YEARS, AND WE
HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TRAIN DO FOR
00:20:1040 YEARS.
WE DO NOT WANT TO BITE OFF TOO
00:20:12MUCH OF THE APPLE AT ONE TIME.
WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COME TO AN
00:20:15AGREEMENT ON JUST THE STATE
DISTRICTS.
00:20:18I THINK IT WOULD BE TOO AWESOME
FOR US TO ADDRESS BOTH A
00:20:24CONGRESSIONAL AND LEGISLATIVE.
REP. HUFFMAN: THAT WAS ONE OF
00:20:29THE PROBLEMS IN THE PAST
DECADES.
00:20:30WHEN PEOPLE CAME IN AND WANTED
TO CHANGE THIS, THEY WANTED TO
00:20:35HAVE ONE COMMISSION AT ONE SET
OF RULES.
00:20:36THESE ARE TOO COMPLEX AND VERY
DIFFERENT PROBLEMS.
00:20:43WE SAID LET'S SOLVE THIS
PROBLEM, AND THEN IF WE DO
00:20:50SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE CAN.
WE DID THAT A LOT IN THE
00:20:54LEGISLATURE.
WE HAVE SOLUTIONS FOR GOBLINS,
00:20:56AND SOMEONE WILL SAY I WILL NOT
WORK FOR THAT UNLESS YOU VOTE
00:21:00FOR THAT.
WE CANNOT WORK IT OUT.
00:21:01THESE DO NOT GET DONE.
KAREN: POLITICAL PROBLEMS ASIDE
00:21:06AND CONCERNS ASIDE, ONE BATTLE
YOU'LL BE FIGHTING THIS FALL IS
00:21:13TO GET SOME ATTENTION TO THIS
ISSUE BECAUSE THE AIR ALONG THE
00:21:14LEGALIZATION ISSUE IS SOMETHING
THAT IS GETTING A LOT OF -- THE
00:21:22MARIJUANA LEGALIZATION ISSUE
SOMETHING THAT IS GETTING A LOT
00:21:23OF ATTENTION.
HOW DO YOU GET THIS?
00:21:26MR. SYKES: WE DO HAVE A
CAMPAIGN.
00:21:29WE COCHAIR THE CAMPAIGN
COMMITTEE, AND WE WILL BE
00:21:36ADVOCATING FOR THIS PARTICULAR
ISSUE.
00:21:37ONE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS THERE
REALLY IS NO ORGANIZED
00:21:41OPPOSITION TO THE ISSUE.
THEREFORE SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT
00:21:46BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH
ENDORSEMENT THAT IT IS GOING TO
00:21:48BE FAVORABLE.
WE KNOW THAT ISSUES LIKE THIS,
00:21:51THEY NEVER COME EASY, AND THEY
REALLY NEED AN AGGRESSIVE
00:21:57CAMPAIGN.
THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY.
00:22:01REP. HUFFMAN: REDISTRICTING IS
NOT AS INTERESTING TO MARIJUANA
00:22:06-- AS MARIJUANA TOO MANY
PEOPLE.
00:22:11ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FIND
SORT OF IRONIC IN MY EIGHT YEARS
00:22:26, ONE OF THE CONSTANT DRUMBEATS
WAS WHY CAN'T EVERYONE STOP THIS
00:22:28PARTISAN BICKERING?
WHY CAN'T THEY GET TOGETHER AND
00:22:33DECIDE SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
AND WE DO THAT IN A PRETTY
00:22:35DRAMATIC FASHION ON A PRETTY
COMPLICATED ISSUE.
00:22:38NOW THAT WE ARE BRING IT TO
FRUITION WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE
00:22:46THAT SAY I AM GLAD YOU'RE DOING
THAT, WHAT IS GOING ON WITH
00:22:50MARIJUANA?
[LAUGHTER]
00:22:51THIS IS A RARE OPPORTUNITY,
BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS HAPPENING
00:22:58IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DECADE,
PEOPLE ARE VOTING ON THAT IS,
00:23:08THIS IS SEVEN YEARS FROM NOW
THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
00:23:10THE LEGISLATURE IS NOT VOTING IN
THEIR OWN SELF INTEREST BECAUSE
00:23:18THEY WILL NOT BE AFFECTED BY IT.
IF THIS FAILS, WE ARE BACK TO
00:23:22THE DRAWING BOARD.
WE ARE SPENDING MILLIONS OF
00:23:25DOLLARS OVER PUNCHING EACH OTHER
OUT OVER YOU SAID THAT AND WHAT
00:23:28THIS MEANS.
THE TIMING WAS RIGHT, I HAVE TO
00:23:37DO WITH A FELLOW WHO WAS VERY
INTELLIGENT AND A POLITICAL
00:23:38SCIENCE PROFESSOR WHO UNDERSTOOD
THESE ISSUES.
00:23:40I JUST HOPE THAT THE PUBLIC
UNDERSTANDS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
00:23:48SOLVE THE 50 YEAR PROBLEM HERE.
KAREN: SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY THE
00:23:52REAL PROBLEM IS CAMPAIGN
FINANCING.
00:23:53FREDDIE FIX THAT -- HOW DO YOU
FIX THAT, ANY THOUGHTS?
00:23:59MR. SYKES: THAT IS ANOTHER ISSUE
IN ANOTHER PROGRAM.
00:24:04[LAUGHTER]
KAREN: THE HUGE DRIVER OF A LOT
00:24:07OF DECISIONS.
MR. SYKES: BOTH OF THE SERVED ON
00:24:17THE CONSTITUTION MODERNIZATION
COMMISSION, THE ISSUES THAT THE
00:24:21COMMISSION IS TRYING TO GRAPPLE
WITH.
00:24:22BEFORE THEIR SEVEN-YEAR TERM IS
OVER, HOPEFULLY THEY WILL HAVE
00:24:28AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK INTO THIS
IN MORE DETAIL.
00:24:29REP. HUFFMAN: THE BIG ISSUES AND
CAMPAIGNS FINANCER AT THE
00:24:33FEDERAL LEVEL.
THE IRS CODE THAT ALLOWS A LOT
00:24:37OF THE ORGANIZATIONS TO EXECS,
THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE
00:24:43STATE LEGISLATURE CAN DO IF THEY
WANTED TO.
00:24:44THERE IS AN ABILITY FOR MOST
HOUSE CANDIDATES TO RAISE
00:24:55THROUGH LOCAL CONTRIBUTIONS.
FOR THE MOST PART YOU DO NOT
00:24:57HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT OUTSIDE
PEOPLE FUNDING THOSE.
00:24:58YOU HAVE TOGETHER TO GO OUT AND
RAISE MONEY -- TO BE ABLE TO GO
00:25:06OUT AND RAISE MONEY.
I KNOW IT IS NOT ALWAYS APPEAR
00:25:10IN THIS WAY, BUT IN FACT PEOPLE
ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISLAND CAN
00:25:17GET SOMETHING DONE WHETHER THEY
ARE IN THE MINORITY OR NOT.
00:25:19I THINK THAT IS TRUE, I SERVE TO
USE THE MINORITY PARTY, AND MY
00:25:23SECOND TERM, IF YOU ARE SMART
AND YOU HAVE GOOD RELATIONSHIPS
00:25:31AND/OR SIMPLE AND YOU ENGAGE
PEOPLE, YOU CAN GO TO THE
00:25:33MAJORITY PARTY AND HIT SOME
THINGS DONE.
00:25:34IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE IN THE
MAJORITY, BUT I DO NOT THINK IN
00:25:42THE SHORT-TERM THERE IS ANYTHING
THAT THE LEGISLATURE CAN DO
00:25:43ABOUT CAMPAIGN FINANCE BECAUSE
THOSE DECISIONS ARE IN
00:25:45WASHINGTON.
KAREN: FORMER REPRESENTATIVES
00:25:52MATT HUFFMAN AND VERNON SYKES
COMMITTEE WORK FOR BEING HERE.
00:25:53-- THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
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