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>> DAYS AFTER THE HOUSE PASSES
00:00:40ITS BUDGET, THE SENATE RELEASES
ITS VERSION.
00:00:41THERE ARE BIG DIFFERENCES.
THE KINDS OF CHANGES IN THOSE
00:00:49SPENDING DOCUMENTS HAVE LED TO
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER
00:00:52REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS IN THE
STATE HOUSE ARE TWO EXTREME AND
00:00:55OUT OF STEP WITH OHIO VOTERS,
OR WHETHER THEY'RE JUST DOING
00:00:58THE JOB THOSE VOTERS PUT THEM IN
OFFICE TO DO.
00:00:59WILL EXAMINE THAT ISSUE IN
DEPTH THIS WEEK ON "THE STATE OF
00:01:05OHIO."
IT DID NOT TAKE CENTER
00:01:11REPUBLICANS LONG TO UNVEIL THEIR
VERSION OF THE BILL -- BUDGET
00:01:15THAT THE HOUSE PASSED LAST WEEK.
ASKED BY REPORTERS LATER ABOUT
00:02:04THE ELIMINATION OF THE
EXPANSION, GOVERNOR KASICH SAID
00:02:09THAT HE WAS NOT DISCOURAGED.
>> WITH MEDICAID, WE HAVE TO
00:02:13MOVE TOGETHER.
>> I THINK THERE IS A WAY TO GO,
00:02:22BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE IT UP.
>> SENATORS SUGGESTED THEY WOULD
00:02:27LIKE TO MAKE THAT BIGGER.
SABR STARTED OUT THE BUDGET
00:02:33NEWS CONFERENCE BY ANNOUNCING
THAT THE SENATE WOULD TAKE UP AN
00:02:35ALL-OUT BAN ON INTERNET CAFÉS.
THE HOUSE PASSED THE BAN IN
00:02:40MARCH.
FABER SAID A MAJORITY OF HIS
00:02:42CAUCUS NOW AGREES.
THE ANNOUNCEMENT COMES AFTER
00:02:48ATTORNEY GENERAL MIKE DEWINE
LED A RAID ON SIX OF THE NEARLY
00:03:02800 FACILITIES IN THE CLEVELAND
AREA AFTER THE EIGHTH DISTRICT
00:03:03ORTON OF APPEALS RULED THE CAFÉS
ARE ILLEGAL GAMBLING
00:03:07ESTABLISHMENTS.
FABER SAYS THAT APPEALS COURT
00:03:10RULING PUSH THE ISSUE FORWARD
AND HE ANSWERED THOSE WHO
00:03:14QUESTION WHETHER SENATORS ARE
BEING HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY
00:03:16LOBBYISTS WHO REPRESENT THE
INDUSTRY.
00:03:17>> IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT
THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT WE WANT TO
00:03:21GET RIGHT.
YOU KNOW THAT I SPEAK FOR OUR
00:03:29CAUCUS.
NO ONE IN MY CAUCUS AT ANY TIME
00:03:35CONTEMPLATED DOING NOTHING WITH
REGARD TO INTERNET CAFÉS.
00:03:37IN FACT, WE ALL SAID WE WOULD
ACT THOROUGHLY AND EFFICIENTLY
00:03:43AND GET THIS MATTER DONE IN A
TIMELINE TO WORK FOR THE SENATE
00:03:47IN A THOROUGH MANNER.
I'VE ASKED OUR MEMBERS TO MOVE
00:03:51UP THE TIMELINE.
>> IT COULD TAKE MONTHS TO PASS
00:04:00IT AS PART OF A COPPERHEADS OF
REFORM.
00:04:02FABER SAID IS ALSO ASKING
REPUBLICAN SENATORS TO RETURN
00:04:04ALL POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO
ANYONE ASSOCIATED WITH THE
00:04:08INTERNET CAFÉ.
THE RACE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC
00:04:12NOMINATION FOR GOVERNOR IS ON.
ED FITZGERALD SAYS HE'S
00:04:16OFFICIALLY IN THE RACE, AFTER
MONTHS ON THE LOCAL DEMOCRATIC
00:04:19INNER CIRCUIT.
THE 44-YEAR-OLD FORMER FBI AGENT
00:04:22AND LAKEWOOD MAYOR PROMOTES HIS
ROLE AS A REFORMER WHO HOPE TO
00:04:26INTEGRITY TO CUYAHOGA COUNTY --
HELPS RESTORE INTEGRITY TO
00:04:34CUYAHOGA COUNTY GOVERNMENT
AFTER THE MASSIVE CORRUPTION
00:04:35SCANDAL THERE.
GOVERNOR KASICH HAS NOT
00:04:40ANNOUNCED HIS REELECTION
CAMPAIGN TO REKEY IS WIDELY
00:04:42EXPECTED TO RUN AGAIN.
-- WIDELY EXPECTED TO RUN AGAIN.
00:04:47BOTH CHAMBERS STRIPPED E'S
PROPOSED EXPANSION OF MEDICAID.
00:04:54THE GOVERNOR HAS SAID THAT COULD
RETURN $13 BILLION.
00:04:59VOTERS SUPPORT 48%-43%.
BOTH CHAMBERS ALSO TOOK OUT
00:05:12GOVERNOR KASICH'S SEVERANCE TAX
ON BIG OIL AND NATURAL GAS
00:05:14DRILLERS -- WHICH VOTERS SAID IN
A POLL IN MARCH THEY BACK 58%
00:05:20TO 32%.
TRICKS OF THE LEGISLATURE SAY
00:05:24IF THE POLLS ARE TO BE TRUSTED,
WHY WOULD LAWMAKERS BE TAKING
00:05:27THESE ACTIONS OF VOTERS SAY THEY
SUPPORT?
00:05:28>COLUMBUS DISPATCH COLUMNIST JOE
HALLETT PUT IT THIS WAY, THESE
00:05:39DAYS, THE REPUBLICAN DOMINATED
OHIO GENERAL ASSEMBLY MIGHT BE
00:05:43UNMATCHED FOR ITS PRODUCTION OF
BAD LEGISLATION, ITS DEVOTION
00:05:49TO FRINGE GROUPS AND THEIR
NARROWMINDED IDEOLOGY, AND ITS
00:05:50LOYALTY TO THE LOBBIES THAT
LARDER LEGISLATIVE CAMPAIGN
00:05:55ACCOUNTS.
IF VOTERS ARE TO BE TRUSTED,
00:06:02THAN THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE
00:06:03POPULATION, WHICH THE RESULTS OF
THE LAST TWO ELECTIONS SHOW
00:06:07LEANS TO THE RIGHT ON STATE
HOUSE ISSUES, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT
00:06:11COMES TO FISCAL MATTERS.
SO IS THE LEGISLATURE TO
00:06:14EXTREME?
OR IS IT DOING THE HARD WORK
00:06:18THAT VOTERS EXPECT?
HERE TO DISCUSS THAT ISSUE ARE
00:06:24TWO ACTIVISTS WITH VERY
DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
00:06:25JEFF LONGSTERETH IS A REPUBLICAN
CONSULTANT AND HAS WORKED ON
00:06:33STATEWIDE CAMPAIGNS, PROBABLY
MOST NOTABLY ISSUE 3.
00:06:37THE SO-CALLED HEALTH CARE
REFORM -- FREEDOM AMENDMENT.
00:06:40DALE BUTLAND IS WITH A
PROGRESSIVE THINK TANK
00:06:45INNOVATION OHIO.
TO THE BACK TO THE COLUMN, HE
00:06:54WRITES THAT A VOID CREATED BY
WEAK LEADERSHIP, SELF-SERVING
00:06:58INDEPENDENT LOBBYISTS -- WHAT IS
HAPPENING HERE?
00:07:01>> THE DEFINITION COMES DOWN TO,
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY EXTREME?
00:07:06YOU QUOTED A POLL.
I WOULD HARDLY CALL EITHER SIDE
00:07:10OF THAT EXTREME.
IT IS RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE
00:07:13ACCORDING TO THAT POLL.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE JOE IS
00:07:16GETTING HIS FACTS OR HIS
THEORIES.
00:07:19IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS
REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE HAS DONE
00:07:26ANYTHING BUT EXTREME
LEGISLATION.
00:07:27I FIND IT VERY HARD TO BELIEVE.
>> DALE, LET ME ASK YOU.
00:07:30SOME PEOPLE SAY ATTEMPTS TO THE
RIGHT, TIPS TO THE RED.
00:07:39THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT
ELECTIONS ARE THE ONLY POLLS
00:07:43THAT COUNT.
THE LAST TWO ELECTIONS HAVE
00:07:44SHOWN THAT OHIOANS FAVOR
REPUBLICANS.
00:07:47>> IN 2010, THE REPUBLICANS WON.
THEY WON FAIR AND SQUARE.
00:07:53WE ARE IN THE DEPTHS OF A HUGE
RECESSION AND IT WAS A VERY BAD
00:07:57YEAR FOR INCUMBENTS.
THEY WON.
00:07:592012, A DIFFERENT STORY.
'DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES WON
00:08:11SUBSTANTIALLY MORE VOTES THAN
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES FOR THE
00:08:12OHIO HOUSE.
BECAUSE OF THE RIDICULOUS
00:08:14GERRYMANDERING GOING ON, WE END
UP WITH 39 DEMOCRATS EVEN THOUGH
00:08:22DEMOCRATS ONE MORE VOTES.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN POINT TO
00:08:25THAT.
THE BROADER POINT IS THIS.
00:08:28GOVERNOR KASICH IN 2010 AND HIS
ALLIES RAN ON THE JOBS AGENDA.
00:08:32BASIC WON BY LESS THAN 2% OF THE
VOTE.
00:08:36-- KASICH WON BY LESS THAN 2% OF
THE VOTE.
00:08:41INITIALLY, OHIO WAS CREATING
JOBS.
00:08:45THE RESCUE OF THE AUTO INDUSTRY
CREATED 17,000 JOBS.
00:08:57NOW WE ARE LOSING JOBS.
IN MARCH, 20,000 JOBS WE LOST IN
00:09:05OHIO.
WAR THAN ANY OTHER STATE IN THE
00:09:07COUNTRY.
THE REASON WE ARE LOSING STEAM
00:09:13IS BECAUSE GOVERNOR KASICH AND
HIS REPUBLICAN ALLIES HAVE TAKEN
00:09:15THEIR --== -- HAVE TAKEN THEIR
EYES OFF THE BALL.
00:09:20THEY HAVE BEEN WASTING THEIR
TIME ON AN AGENDA THAT IS
00:09:25ANTIWORKER, ANTI-WOMEN AND ANTI-
MIDDLE CLASS THAT HAS NOTHING TO
00:09:27DO WITH JOBS AND NOTHING TO DO
WITH WHY THEY WERE ELECTED.
00:09:29>> LET ME GIVE JEFF AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THAT.
00:09:35>> I DON'T AGREE.
THE GOVERNOR'S NUMBERS ARE GOOD.
00:09:39THE POLL SHOWS THAT OHIOANS ARE
HAPPY AND GETTING HAPPIER WITH
00:09:46THIS GOVERNOR.
THEY'RE HAPPIER WITH THE
00:09:48LEGISLATURE.
YOU ALSO SEE THAT THEY ARE
00:09:53UNHAPPY AND GETTING UNHAPPIER
WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
00:09:55STATES.
YOU CAN GO BACK AND FORTH ALL
00:10:00DAY ABOUT WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
OHIO'S ECONOMY.
00:10:02THE SIMPLE MATTER IS THAT IT IS
GETTING BETTER.
00:10:09I THINK THIS GOVERNOR IS DOING A
GREAT JOB.
00:10:13I THINK REELECTION IS LOOKING
VERY GOOD FOR HIM.
00:10:17>> JUST READING THE POLLS IS A
LITTLE SELECTIVE.
00:10:23>> EVERYBODY READING A POLL IS
SELECTIVE.
00:10:26>> IT SHOWS THAT KASICH IS NO
LONGER UNDERWATER.
00:10:31OBAMA IS NOT UNDERWATER.
>> NATIONALLY, 53%.
00:10:38BUT IN OHIO, CASEY HAS WAY
UNDER 50% -- KASICH HAS WAY
00:10:45UNDER 50%.
AND AGAINST AN UNKNOWN
00:10:48CHALLENGER.
HE STILL HAS A LEAD THAT IS LESS
00:10:53THAN DOUBLE DIGITS.
I WOULD SAY THAT TO KNOW JOHN
00:11:00KASICH IS NOT NECESSARILY TO
LOVE THEM.
00:11:01>> SUPPORTING OBAMA, 49%.
HAVING A FAVORABLE VIEW OF
00:11:07GOVERNOR KASICH, 46%.
LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE
00:11:16MEDICAID EXPANSION.
POLLS SHOW THAT THIS IS
00:11:20SOMETHING THAT VOTERS TO
SUPPORT.
00:11:22WHY WAS IT TAKEN OFF THE TABLE?
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT VOTERS
00:11:31SUPPORT.
WHY NOT DO IT?
00:11:32>> VOTERS DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT
IT.
00:11:35THERE CAN -- THEY'RE CONCERNED,
ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE A JOB.
00:11:41THIS ISSUE IS NOT RESONATING AS
ONE THAT HAS A LOT OF
00:11:48MOTIVATION BEHIND IT.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL STILL
00:11:54BE DEBATED.
THE SENATE SAID THEY WERE GOING
00:11:56TO READY THIS, FORM A
COMMISSION.
00:11:58I THINK THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE
WAY.
00:11:58WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO DO LONG-
00:12:03TERM.
IT IS WORTH STUDYING TO MAKE
00:12:05SURE WE GET IT RIGHT.
>> ISN'T STUDYING SOMETHING THAT
00:12:09OFTEN TIMES DOES NOT COME TO
FRUITION?
00:12:12>> I THINK THERE IS MOTIVATION
ON THE SIDE OF THE GOVERNOR TO
00:12:19GET THIS DONE.
IT REMAINS TO SEE IF THAT
00:12:23MOTIVATION IS SHARED IN THE
LEGISLATURE.
00:12:24I SUSPECT THERE ARE DIFFERING
OPINIONS.
00:12:25THE REASON THAT THERE IS NO
ENTHUSIASM IS GUYS LIKE MY
00:12:31FRIEND JEFF HEER AND HIS TEA
PARTY FRIENDS KEEP TELLING
00:12:33REPUBLICANS, IF YOU SUPPORT
THAT, --
00:12:39>> A RECORD NUMBER FOR A
CITIZEN INITIATED CONSTITUTIONAL
00:12:49AMENDMENT ACTUALLY VOTED FOR THE
AMENDMENT.
00:12:50THAT WAS A HARSH REVIEW ON
OBAMACARE.
00:12:54>> THERE'S NO ISSUE THAT
REFLECTS THE EXTREMISM OF THE
00:13:00REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE
MORE THAN THIS ISSUE.
00:13:01IF WE DO NOT EXPAND MEDICAID, IT
WOULD COST OHIO ZERO FOR THE
00:13:11NEXT THREE YEARS.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL PICK
00:13:14UP THE ENTIRE COST.
IF WE DO NOT EXPAND MEDICAID WE
00:13:18WILL BE LEAVING $13 BILLION IN
FEDERAL FUNDS ON THE TABLE.
00:13:19TAXPAYERS WOULD SAVE $400
MILLION OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS
00:13:24BY EXPANDING MEDICAID.
HOSPITALS KNOW IT WILL COST
00:13:30THOUSANDS OF JOBS.
3400 LIVES A YEAR WE CAN SAVE IN
00:13:33OHIO.
ALL THE REPUBLICANS IN THE
00:13:44LEGISLATURE WANT TO DO IS BASH
OBAMACARE AND REFIGHT THE LAST
00:13:47ELECTION.
>> IT'S INTERESTING WHEN YOU
00:13:52TALK ABOUT EXTREME.
43% OF OHIOANS THINK IT IS A BAD
00:13:54IDEA TO EXPAND THIS VERY --
THIS.
00:13:5820% OF DEMOCRATS THINK IT IS A
BAD IDEA.
00:14:03IF IT SO EXTREME AND ONLY THE
TEA PARTY SUPPORTS IT, HOW ARE
00:14:0620% OF DEMOCRATS ALSO SAYING IT
IS A BAD IDEA?
00:14:09TALK ABOUT WHEN DEMOCRATS HAD
CONTROL OF THE FEDERAL
00:14:14GOVERNMENT, THOSE BRANCHES OF
THE PRESIDENCY AND CONGRESS.
00:14:18THEY PUSHED OBAMACARE THROUGH.
THAT WAS SO EXTREME THAT IT
00:14:23LAUNCHED A PROTEST MOVEMENT.
IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHAT THAT
00:14:27MOVEMENT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS HAVE SINCE
00:14:31STOPPED PROTESTING AND ARE NOW
RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND HAD BEEN
00:14:33ELECTED.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO CALL IT A
00:14:36PROTEST MOVEMENT.
I'M GETTING THE SENSE THAT IF
00:14:44IT IS A REPUBLICAN IDEA, IT MUST
BE EXTREME.
00:14:46THAT IS WHAT WE'RE ARE HEARING
FROM DALE AND HIS LIBERAL
00:14:50ALLIES.
>> THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT HAVS
00:14:57GIVEN REPUBLICANS SUCH
CANDIDATES AS TODD AKIN, RICHARD
00:15:01MURDOCH.
SOMEBODY SAID IN THE ELECTION,
00:15:04YOU KNOW YOUR PARTY IS IN
TROUBLE WHEN THE DAY AFTER THE
00:15:06ELECTION YOU ASK THE QUESTION,
DID THE RAPE GUY LOSE?
00:15:08AND YOU HAVE TO ASK, WHICH ONE?
JOHN KASICH INITIALLY DID NOT
00:15:17SUPPORT EXPANSION OF MEDICAID
UNTIL HE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS
00:15:19TO SEE WHAT --
>> THIS WOULD BE A WAY TO
00:15:25CAPTURE FEDERAL DOLLARS AND
EXPAND THE PROGRAM THAT HE
00:15:29FEELS WOULD REALLY HELP PEOPLE
WHO ARE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY
00:15:30COULD NOT AFFORD HEALTH
INSURANCE OTHERWISE.
00:15:33>> IS DALE CALLING THE GOVERNOR
OR THE TEA PARTY EXTREME?
00:15:41>> LEAVING ALL THE JOBS,
EVERYTHING ELSE SIMPLY BECAUSE
00:15:48THEY WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT
THEY REALLY HATE OBAMACARE, THAT
00:15:51IS WHAT IS EXTREME.
>> SO YOU ARE ENDORSING
00:15:54GOVERNOR KASICH?
>> THIS IS THE ONE GOOD THING IN
00:16:00HIS BUDGET.
>> WITH GOVERNOR KASICH
00:16:07SPECIFICALLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT
LAWMAKERS WHO GAVE YOU NEARLY
00:16:11EVERYTHING HE WANTED IN THE LAST
BUDGET, WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS
00:16:14HAPPENING?
IS IT A REELECTION SITUATION?
00:16:19THE CANDIDATES IN THE
LEGISLATURE WILL BE RUNNING
00:16:25AGAIN IN 2014.
ARE THEY MORE CONCERNED ABOUT
00:16:26THEIR SURVIVAL?
>> EVERYONE WANTS TO KEEP THEIR
00:16:30JOB.
THERE IS A BIT OF THAT GOING ON.
00:16:32WHAT IS GOING ON HERE IS YOU
HAVE TRUE DISAGREEMENT WITHIN
00:16:40THE LEGISLATURE, BETWEEN THEM
AND THE GOVERNOR.
00:16:41AND BETWEEN THEM AND THEMSELVES.
THERE WERE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS
00:16:50WHO WERE IN FAVOR OF MEDICAID
EXPANSION.
00:16:51I THINK THIS WILL ALL PLAY OUT.
I THINK IT'S HEALTHY FOR OUR
00:16:55PARTY TO HAVE VIGOROUS DEBATE
ABOUT ISSUES.
00:16:57IT HELPS US COALESCE AROUND
ISSUES GOING FORWARD.
00:17:01I THINK THIS IS HEALTHY.
YOU RARELY SEE THAT OUT OF THE
00:17:06DEMOCRATS.
THEY TEND TO MARCH TO THE BEAT
00:17:11OF ONE DRUMMER.
THAT TENDS TO BE THE UNIONS AND
00:17:12THEIR ALLIES.
IT IS INTERESTING THAT
00:17:16EVERYTHING THE REPUBLICANS DO OR
DON'T DO IS SEEN AS EXTREME.
00:17:19BASICALLY ALL REPUBLICANS DID
WAS TAKE AN ERASER TO IT.
00:17:25I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF AN ERASER
AS EXTREME BEFORE.
00:17:31>> WHAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS DID IN
HIS BUDGET IS THEY CUT TAXES
00:17:38AGAIN IN A WAY THAT PRIMARILY
BENEFITS THE WEALTHY.
00:17:39TO FUND THAT, GIVEAWAY TO THE
RICH, THEY ARE CUTTING SCHOOLS
00:17:46AGAIN.
SCHOOLS WOULD END UP HAVING EVEN
00:17:53LESS MONEY THAN THE FIRST TIME
THEY CUT THE BUDGET.
00:17:57INNOVATION OHIO THIS WEEK CAME
OUT WITH A NEW ANALYSIS.
00:18:05SINCE MAY OF 2011, THERE HAS
BEEN $1.3 BILLION WORTH OF
00:18:10SCHOOL LEVIES ON THE BALLOT
SINCE MAY OF 2011 BECAUSE OF
00:18:16THESE CUTS, WHICH ARE THERE TO
FUND THESE TAX CUTS FOR RICH
00:18:21PEOPLE.
THAT'S EXTREME.
00:18:22>> I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE
TO RESPOND, JEFF.
00:18:25>> WE ALWAYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT
WHAT IS EXTREME VERSUS TAX CUT
00:18:30OR NO TAX CUT.
PEOPLE THINK THAT TO LEAVE MORE
00:18:35MONEY IN THE POCKETS OF ALL
OHIOANS IS EXTREME.
00:18:37I THINK MOST OHIOANS WOULD SAY
--
00:18:39>> WHEN YOU ARE PUSHING THE NEED
FOR TAX INCREASES TO THE LOCAL
00:18:43LEVEL, THAT'S THE PROBLEM, IS
THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO FUND THEIR
00:18:47SCHOOLS.
>> THERE IS FAIR AMOUNT OF
00:18:52DEBATE LEFT ON THIS.
THERE IS AN OPENNESS TO MAJOR
00:18:56THAT SCHOOLS ARE WELL-FUNDED AND
TAKEN CARE OF.
00:19:01WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR
YOUTH ARE PROPERLY EDUCATED.
00:19:10WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I
WILL -- OHIOANS ARE WELL-
00:19:16EDUCATED.
>> MANY OF YOUR FRIENDS IN THE
00:19:21TEA PARTY LEAVE THAT IF A LITTLE
EDUCATION -- BELIEVE THAT IF A
00:19:25LITTLE EDUCATION IS A GOOD
THING, EVEN LESS IS BETTER.
00:19:29>> OHIO VOTERS ARE HARD TO
UNDERSTAND.
00:19:34THEY OVERWHELMINGLY VOTED
REPUBLICAN IN 2010, BUT THEN
00:19:37REELECTED PRESIDENT OBAMA.
A POLL SAYS THEY SUPPORT
00:19:43PRESIDENT OBAMA, 49%, BUT ALSO
HAVE A FAVORABLE VIEW OF
00:19:47GOVERNOR KASICH.
AN ISSUE THAT YOU BOTH WERE
00:19:53INVOLVED IN 2011, THEY VOTED FOR
THE UNION BACKED APPEAL AND ALSO
00:20:01THAT TEA PARTY BACKED HEALTHCARE
FREEDOM AMENDMENT.
00:20:06DO WE NOT UNDERSTAND OHIO
VOTERS, OR ARE THEY EXTREME IN
00:20:12AND OF THE WAY THEY FEEL AND
ISSUES?
00:20:13>> APPARENTLY, DALE AND I
UNDERSTAND VERY WELL.
00:20:17>> WE BOTH WANT OUR ISSUES.
>> THE HEALTHCARE FREEDOM
00:20:22AMENDMENT WAS SOMETHING THAT A
LOT OF PEOPLE COULD NOT QUITE
00:20:27GET THEIR ARMS AROUND.
PEOPLE ON THE STREET AND IN THE
00:20:31REST OF OHIO, THE REAL PEOPLE
IN OHIO, THEY GOT IT.
00:20:34THEY UNDERSTOOD IT WAS ABOUT
FREEDOM.
00:20:35FREEDOM IS POPULAR IN OHIO.
THE WORKPLACE FREEDOM AMENDMENT
00:20:41GETTING SIGNATURES IS ALSO VERY
POPULAR.
00:20:42>> THE RIGHT TO WORK AMENDMENT
BEING WORKED ON RIGHT NOW?
00:20:47>> THE SO-CALLED WORKFORCE
FREEDOM AMENDMENT.
00:20:53>> IN THE ORWELLIAN IDEALS OF
THE TEA PARTY.
00:20:56>> EVERYONE WILL HAVE THEIR
RHETORIC ON BOTH SIDES.
00:21:00ANYTIME YOU PUT FREEDOM ON THE
BALLOT, IT IS POPULAR WITH
00:21:06OHIOANS.
AS THEY SEE A CHANCE TO HAVE
00:21:08MORE FREEDOM, MORE RIGHTS, MORE
MONEY IN THEIR POCKET, THEREFORE
00:21:11IT.
>> -- THEY ARE FOR IT.
00:21:13>> TO DALE'S CREDIT, I WOULD
SAY THAT THEY SAW ISSUE TWO,
00:21:19SENATE BILL FIVE AS TAKING AWAY
FREEDOM.
00:21:23I THINK FREEDOM WAS ON THE
BALLOT IN BOTH CASES.
00:21:25>> THERE WAS LOTS AND LOTS OF
MONEY SPENT AROUND ISSUE TWO.
00:21:30SENATE BILL FIVE.
EVERYBODY BY THE TIME ELECTION
00:21:35ROLLED AROUND, EVERYBODY KNEW
WHAT THE ISSUES WERE BECAUSE
00:21:37THERE WERE MILLIONS AND
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF
00:21:40TELEVISION ADS AND DEBATES AND
RADIO DEBATES.
00:21:45EVERYBODY KNEW WHAT THAT WAS
ABOUT.
00:21:46>> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, JEFF,
THERE WAS MASSIVE CONFUSION ON
00:21:53ISSUE 3.
WHEN YOU SAY TO PEOPLE, DO YOU
00:21:57WANT TO PRESERVE THE RIGHT AND
FREEDOM TO CHOOSE YOUR OWN
00:22:01DOCTOR, PEOPLE SAY SURE.
I THINK THERE WAS MASSIVE VOTER
00:22:09CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD
ACTUALLY DO.
00:22:12THE ONE THING WE HAVE NOT EVEN
TOUCHED ON TODAY IS THE
00:22:19EXTREMIST STUFF WITH REGARD TO
WOMEN.
00:22:20WHAT YOU HAVE NOW IN THE
REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED
00:22:24LEGISLATURE FOR THE FOURTH TIME
IN TWO YEARS, THEY'RE TRYING TO
00:22:26DE-FUND THAT PARENTHOOD.
-- PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
00:22:30THAT DOES NOT COUNT THE FIVE
RESTRICTIONS THEY HAVE PUT ON
00:22:33ABORTION.
>> IS THAT IN THE BUDGET?
00:22:35>> THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD ISSUE
IS IN THE BUDGET.
00:22:40>> THOSE THINGS WERE PASSED IN
2011.
00:22:43NOW THEY ARE PUSHING THE SO-
CALLED HEARTBEAT BILL.
00:22:46>> THAT HAS NOT BEEN INTRODUCED
YET.
00:22:48>> BUT IT'S COMING.
>> IT WILL PROBABLY START IN THE
00:22:52SENATE.
>> THE SENATE PRESIDENT STOPPED
00:22:56IT.
SENATOR FABER IS FOR IT.
00:22:58THIS WILL BAN ALL ABORTION IN
OHIO, EVEN IN CASES OF RAPE AND
00:23:05INCEST.
THAT'S EXTREME.
00:23:07>> IT HASN'T BEEN INTRODUCED, IT
HASN'T PASSED.
00:23:11I WOULD SAY THAT ANYTIME WE CAN
SAVE LIVES IT IS A GOOD THING.
00:23:16>> THE ORANGE PARTY TEA PARTY
-- ORANGE COUNTY TEA PARTY
00:23:26LEADER, IT WAS SAID THAT TEA
PARTY NOW STANDS FOR TOTALLY
00:23:35ENGAGED AMERICAN.
IS THIS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE
00:23:41PLACE, WHERE TEA PARTY MEMBERS
ARE MOVING TO SOCIAL ISSUES, OR
00:23:46IF THIS IS JUST SOMETHING
HAPPENING IN OHIO?
00:23:47>> LOTS OF FOLKS TRY TO DIVINE
THE TEA PARTY.
00:23:51IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DO.
IT WAS A PROTEST MOVEMENT.
00:23:56HIS DIFFERENT EVERYWHERE --
IT'S DIFFERENT EVERYWHERE.
00:24:02THERE ARE ENGAGED AMERICANS THAT
ARE ENGAGED ABOUT ISSUES.
00:24:05YOU NAME IT.
PEOPLE ARE ENGAGED.
00:24:10FOR THE FIRST TIME, YOU'RE
SEEING AN INFORMED ELECTORATE
00:24:14THAT HAS ACCESS TO MORE
INFORMATION THAN EVER BEFORE.
00:24:17THEY'RE TAKING A POSITION TO
MORE INFORMATION -- MORE SO THAN
00:24:21EVER BEFORE.
I THINK IT'S A HEALTHY THING
00:24:25FOR NOT ONLY OHIO, BUT THE
COUNTRY TO HAVE VIGOROUS DEBATE
00:24:27ABOUT ISSUES.
WE WILL SEE WHERE THINGS SHAKE
00:24:30OUT.
I DON'T THINK THIS REPUBLICAN
00:24:34LEGISLATURE HAS DONE ANYTHING
THAT IS ALL THAT EXTREME.
00:24:36I KNOW THAT'S THE RHETORIC.
THAT IS FINE.
00:24:41JOBS ARE IMPROVING.
THIS GOVERNOR SEEMS TO BE IN A
00:24:46GOOD SPOT.
THERE IS VIGOROUS DEBATE ABOUT
00:24:49ISSUES.
>> THERE IS A CERTAIN POETIC
00:24:52JUSTICE TO HIS CHALLENGE TO THE
ESTABLISHED REPUBLICANS'PICK FOR
00:24:59PARTY CHAIR.
REPUBLICANS ARE LEARNING THAT
00:25:07THEY CREATED THIS TEA PARTY
MONSTER AND NOW THE CAN'T
00:25:09CONTROL IT.
AND IT'S THREATENING TO DESTROY
00:25:12THEM.
IT SHOULD BE INTERESTING --
00:25:20THEIR VOTERS ARE AS INFORMED AND
ACTIVATED AND MOTIVATED AS EVER
00:25:25BEFORE.
HE WILL BE HEALTHY WHEN THE SAME
00:25:26THING GOES THROUGH THEIR PARTY
-- IT WILL BE HEALTHY WHEN THE
00:25:35SAME THING GOES THROUGH THEIR
PARTY.
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