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00:00:00>> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
BROADCAST OF "THE STATE OF OHIO"
00:00:06COMES FROM THE LAW FIRM OF
PORTER, WRIGHT, MORRIS & ARTHUR
00:00:09LLP., HELPING BUSINESSES AND
INDIVIDUALS SOLVE COMPLEX LEGAL
00:00:13PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT OHIO, ACROSS
THE COUNTRY, AND AROUND THE
00:00:15WORLD -- ON THE WEB AT
PORTERWRIGHT.COM.
00:00:18AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
00:00:21120,000 MEMBERS WHO WORK TO
INSPIRE THEIR STUDENTS TO THINK
00:00:26CREATIVELY AND EXPERIENCE THE
JOY OF LEARNING, ONLINE AT
00:00:28OHEA.ORG.
KAREN: AN UNUSUAL COLLECTION OF
00:00:32ACTIVISTS LEADS THE CHARGE TO
CHANGE HOW, WHY AND FOR HOW LONG
00:00:36PEOPLE GO TO PRISON.
OHIO IS ONE OF THE TOP STATES IN
00:00:40THE NATION IN A CATEGORY NO ONE
WANTS TO LEAD - HUNGER.
00:00:43AND THE STATE'S CHIEF JUSTICE
TALKS ABOUT HOW TO GET MORE
00:00:47VOTERS INTERESTED IN WHO'S ON
THE BENCH.
00:00:49ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO."
00:00:55[CAPTIONING PERFORMED BY THE
NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE,
00:00:58WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS
CAPTION CONTENT AND ACCURACY.
00:00:59VISIT NCICAP.ORG]
KAREN: THE DEMOCRATIC
00:01:04FRONTRUNNER WAS BACK IN OHIO FOR
HER SECOND VISIT IN TWO WEEKS.
00:01:07HILLARY CLINTON CRITICIZED
REPUBLICAN LEADER DONALD TRUMP
00:01:11AND HIS REMARKS ON WOMEN AFTER
HE INSULTED GOP RIVAL CARLY
00:01:15FIORINA FOR HER LOOKS.
AND CLINTON SAID SHE "WOULD LOVE
00:01:19TO DEBATE HIM."
CLINTON MADE THE CASE THAT HER
00:01:25POLICIES WOULD BE BETTER FOR
WOMEN AND THE ECONOMY DURING AN
00:01:29EVENT DESCRIBED AS A GRASSROOTS
ORGANIZING MEETING, AND THEN DID
00:01:30SOME FUNDRAISING.
THE OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY WAS
00:01:34READY FOR HILLARY.
THE NIGHT BEFORE HER SPEECH ON
00:01:35THURSDAY, THE OHIO GOP PUT OUT A
STATEMENT, SAYING SHE "FAILED TO
00:01:39CONNECT WITH VOTERS" WHEN SHE
WAS IN CLEVELAND THE WEEK
00:01:42BEFORE, AND REFERENCED WHAT IT
CALLED A "LACKLUSTER APOLOGY"
00:01:45FOR HER E-MAIL SCANDAL, SAYING:
"HILLARY CLINTON'S UTTER
00:01:49DISREGARD FOR THE PROTECTION OF
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IS
00:01:51TROUBLING."
A QUINNIPIAC POLL LAST MONTH
00:01:54SHOWED CLINTON LEADING TRUMP BY
5 POINTS IN OHIO, BUT BOTH
00:01:58CLINTON AND TRUMP HAVE THE
HIGHEST UNFAVORABILITY RATINGS
00:02:02AMONG OHIO VOTERS OF ANY
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE,
00:02:04REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT.
A GROUP OF BUSINESS, HEALTH,
00:02:09COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL
GROUPS IS CALLING ON OHIO
00:02:13LAWMAKERS TO THAW THE GREEN
ENERGY STANDARDS THAT WERE
00:02:15FROZEN LAST YEAR.
THE MEMBERS OF OHIO'S ENERGY
00:02:21FUTURE TOUR HAVE ISSUED A REPORT
THAT INCLUDES INPUT FROM 70
00:02:23EXPERTS AND 10,000 OHIOANS WHO
PROVIDED FEEDBACK ONLINE AND AT
00:02:25FORUMS AROUND THE STATE.
THE CLEAN-ENERGY ADVOCATES SAY
00:02:30THEY WANT THE STATE TO REINSTATE
THE 2008 MANDATORY TARGETS FOR
00:02:35THE USE OF RENEWABLE AND
ADVANCED ENERGY SOURCES SUCH AS
00:02:37WIND, SOLAR AND CLEAN COAL.
THOSE TARGETS WERE TEMPORARILY
00:02:41HALTED FOR TWO YEARS WHILE
LAWMAKERS STUDIED COSTS AND
00:02:42OTHER ISSUES.
LEGISLATORS ARE EXPECTED TO
00:02:47RELEASE A REPORT AT THE END OF
THE MONTH.
00:02:49THE BATTLE OVER ISSUE 3
CONTINUES, WITH LESS THAN TWO
00:02:52MONTHS TILL ELECTION DAY.
AND THE FRONT LINES HAVE MOVED
00:02:56FROM SECRETARY OF STATE JON
HUSTED'S OFFICE TO FEDERAL
00:02:59COURT.
IN JULY, HUSTED ISSUED SUBPOENAS
00:03:01TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT
RESPONSIBLEOHIO'S EFFORTS TO GET
00:03:05SIGNATURES AND REGISTER VOTERS
TO GET THE MARIJUANA
00:03:07LEGALIZATION ISSUE ONTO THE
BALLOT.
00:03:10BUT LAST WEEK, AN ANONYMOUS
RESPONSIBLEOHIO SUPPORTER SUED
00:03:13IN FEDERAL COURT BOTH HUSTED AND
THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR HE
00:03:17APPOINTED, SAYING RELEASING
PERSONAL INFORMATION REQUESTED
00:03:21IN THOSE SUBPOENAS WOULD VIOLATE
THE SUPPORTER'S CONSTITUTIONAL
00:03:24RIGHTS TO FREE SPEECH AND TO BE
FREE FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCH
00:03:26AND SEIZURE.
AFTER SOME LEGAL MANEUVERING,
00:03:29THOSE SUBPOENAS WERE WITHDRAWN
AND RESPONSIBLEOHIO DECLARED
00:03:31VICTORY.
BUT HUSTED ISN'T LETTING IT GO.
00:03:33HE SAYS IN A STATEMENT THIS
WEEK, "THERE IS REASON TO
00:03:38BELIEVE ELECTIONS FRAUD WAS
COMMITTED BY PROPONENTS OF STATE
00:03:41ISSUE 3 IN THE PROCESS OF
QUALIFYING THEIR ISSUE FOR THE
00:03:43BALLOT.
I HAVE BOTH A STATUTORY DUTY AND
00:03:46A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PEOPLE
OF OHIO TO INVESTIGATE THESE
00:03:49ALLEGATIONS IN AN EFFORT TO
PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF OHIO
00:03:52ELECTIONS.
BY REISSUING THE SUBPOENAS, WE
00:03:55CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR
INVESTIGATION IMMEDIATELY
00:03:58WITHOUT LOSING TIME THROUGH
PROCEDURAL DELAY."
00:04:00RESPONSIBLEOHIO FIRED BACK WITH
A STATEMENT THAT READS IN PART:
00:04:04"IF HUSTED THE BULLY IS GOING TO
RUN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE YES
00:04:08ON ISSUE 3 INITIATIVE, INSTEAD
OF DOING THE JOB HE WAS ELECTED
00:04:11TO DO AS AN IMPARTIAL ELECTIONS
REFEREE, THEN HE SHOULD HAVE HIS
00:04:14POLITICAL CAMPAIGN PICK UP THE
TAB FOR THE LEGAL FEES AND SPARE
00:04:18TAXPAYERS THE TIME AND EXPENSE."
MEANWHILE, AN ISSUE THAT COULD
00:04:23BE HEADED TO NEXT YEAR'S BALLOT
IS JUST STARTING OUT.
00:04:26THIS WEEK ATTORNEY GENERAL MIKE
DEWINE HAS APPROVED LANGUAGE
00:04:29THAT THE GROUP "EIGHT IS ENOUGH"
WOULD USE ON ITS PETITIONS, BUT
00:04:32THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND THE
BALLOT BOARD NEED TO APPROVE IT
00:04:35TOO BEFORE A SIGNATURE DRIVE CAN
BEGIN.
00:04:37THE PROPOSAL WOULD STOP A
LAWMAKER FROM SERVING ANY LONGER
00:04:39THAN 12 YEARS TOTAL.
AND THAT LAWMAKER CAN ONLY SPEND
00:04:448 YEARS IN A CERTAIN CHAMBER.
THAT'S A CHANGE FROM CURRENT
00:04:47TERM LIMITS, WHICH ALLOW A
TWO -- A LAWMAKER CAN SERVE IN
00:04:59ONE LEGISLATIVE CHAMBER FOR 8
CONSECUTIVE YEARS.
00:05:01THAT LAWMAKER COULD THEN RETURN
TO THE SAME CHAMBER AFTER A
00:05:03TWO-YEAR BREAK OR RUN FOR OFFICE
IN THE OTHER CHAMBER.
00:05:05OPPONENTS SAY LONGER TERM LIMITS
AND OFFICE SWAPPING PLAYS TO THE
00:05:07ADVANTAGE OF ENTRENCHED
POLITICIANS.
00:05:09THERE'S ANOTHER EFFORT THAT
WOULD INCREASE TERM LIMITS.
00:05:12SUPPORTERS OF THAT FIGHT SAY IT
HELPS BUILD MORE INSTITUTIONAL
00:05:14KNOWLEDGE AND BETTER
RELATIONSHIPS.
00:05:15AN ISSUE THAT MOST AGREE IS
DIFFICULT, CONTROVERSIAL AND YET
00:05:19NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED BROUGHT A
VERY UNUSUAL GROUP OF SUPPORTERS
00:05:22TOGETHER AT THE STATEHOUSE THIS
WEEK.
00:05:24THE ISSUE IS CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REFORM - A BIG CONCERN IN OHIO,
00:05:27WHERE THE PRISON POPULATION IS
AT 139% CAPACITY.
00:05:31THE ISSUE BROUGHT TOGETHER A
NATIONALLY KNOWN CONSERVATIVE
00:05:35TAX CRUSADER, THE AMERICAN CIVIL
LIBERTIES UNION, STATE
00:05:39LAWMAKERS, AND THE AUTHOR OF A
BOOK ABOUT PRISON THAT BECAME A
00:05:41HIT TV SHOW.
REPUBLICAN SENATE PRESIDENT
00:05:44KEITH FABER INTRODUCED THE
PROPOSAL ON REDUCING THE PRISON
00:05:47POPULATION AND HELPING INMATES
FIND JOBS ONCE THEY'RE RELEASED.
00:05:51>> LET ME BE CLEAR, WE WILL
PROSECUTE AND PUNISH
00:05:57SIRIUS, VIOLENT OFFENDERS TO THE
FOLKS EXTENT OF THE LAW.
00:05:59OHIOANS EXPECT NO LESS.
NO ONE IS HERE TO SEE THE
00:06:05CRIMINAL SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHED.
WE ARE HERE TODAY TO SAY THAT
00:06:09ALL -- NOT ALL CRIMES OR
CRIMINALS ARE CREATED -- TREATED
00:06:13EQUAL.
WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A
00:06:16PROSECUTORIAL, JUDICIAL, AND
LEGAL FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE OUR
00:06:19SYSTEM WORK MORE EFFECTIVELY.
UNDOUBTEDLY, THERE ARE OFFENDERS
00:06:23THAT THE GREATER SANCTIONS, AND
SOME THEN THE LESS.
00:06:25THIS IS NOT ABOUT BEING SOFT OR
HARD ON CRIME, BUT RATHER, ABOUT
00:06:30BEING SMART ON CRIME.
KAREN: THE REFORMS WILL GO
00:06:33THROUGH THE 24 MEMBER OHIO
CRIMINAL JUSTICE RECODIFICATION
00:06:35COMMITTEE.
AND ALISON HOLCOMB, THE DIRECTOR
00:06:38OF THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES
UNION'S SMART JUSTICE CAMPAIGN,
00:06:41SAYS THE GROUP HAS ITS WORK CUT
OUT FOR IT.
00:06:44>> OHIO HAS THE SEVENTH LARGEST
POPULATION OF PEOPLE BEHIND
00:06:51PRISON AND JAIL BARS IN THE
NATION.
00:06:52ITS INCARCERATION RATE BEATS
CUBA, ROLL ON DEATH THE RUSSIAN
00:06:59FEDERATION.
THAT KIND OF LEADERSHIP IS HARD
00:07:01TO CELEBRATE, BUT THERE IS
OPPORTUNITY IN THOSE NUMBERS.
00:07:04ONE IN FOUR OF NEW OHIO PRISON
COMMITMENTS EACH YEAR IS FOR A
00:07:10DRUG OFFENSE.
HALF OF THE PEOPLE IN PRISON ARE
00:07:20THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME.
KAREN: CONSERVATIVE ACTIVIST
00:07:22GROVER NORQUIST FOUNDED
AMERICANS FOR TAX REFORM, BEST
00:07:23KNOWN FOR GETTING CANDIDATES -
MOSTLY REPUBLICANS - TO SIGN
00:07:24PLEDGES THAT THEY WON'T RAISE
TAXES.HALF OF THE PEOPLE
00:07:26NORQUIST SAYS REFORMING THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS A
00:07:27FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE THING TO
DO, AND SAYS IT'S CATCHING ON -
00:07:29AS EVIDENCED BY THE CHANGE IN
POLITICAL CAMPAIGNING.
00:07:33>> PEOPLE HAVE BEEN REWARDED
RATHER THAN PUNISHED
00:07:39FOR TAKING THE LEAD AND PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND THE DAYS WHEN PEOPLE
00:07:43COULD BE DEFEATED FOR BEING SOFT
ON CRIME.
00:07:44I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF BEING SOFT
ON CRIME.
00:07:47THIS IS ABOUT BEING SMART ON
CRIME.
00:07:49PUNISHING CRIME IN REDUCING
CRIME WITHOUT BEING SILLY OR
00:07:54WASTING MONEY.
KAREN: SEN. CECIL THOMAS, A
00:07:55DEMOCRAT OF CINCINNATI, COMES AT
THE ISSUE FROM A DIFFERENT
00:07:58PERSPECTIVE - FOR 27 YEARS, HE
WAS A POLICE OFFICER.
00:08:00AND HE SAYS WHAT HE SAW ON THE
STREETS AND IN THE PRISONS MAKES
00:08:03HIM WANT TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM,
SUCH AS COMING UP WITH
00:08:06ALTERNATIVES TO INCARCERATION.
>> SO MANY INDIVIDUALS ARE BEING
00:08:16, THEY ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS,
THEY ARE PLACED IN SITUATIONS
00:08:22WHERE THERE ARE MANDATORY
SENTENCING, THEY FIND THEMSELVES
00:08:25ON A LOW LEVEL OFFENSE DOING 10,
15 YEARS.
00:08:27THAT IS A TREMENDOUSLY COSTLY
THING, FOLKS.
00:08:33NOT ONLY TO THE TAXPAYERS OF THE
STATE OF OHIO, BUT TO THE
00:08:36FAMILIES THAT ARE DEVASTATED AS
A RESULT OF AN INDIVIDUAL
00:08:40SITTING IN THE PENITENTIARY.
KAREN: THEN THERE'S PIPER KERMAN
00:08:42- THE AUTHOR OF A MEMOIR OF HER
YEAR SERVING TIME IN A WOMEN'S
00:08:43PRISON, A BOOK THAT BECAME THE
HIT NETFLIX SHOW "ORANGE IS THE
00:08:45NEW BLACK".
KERMAN NOTED SHE WAS LIKELY THE
00:08:47ONLY ONE IN THE GROUP WITH A
FELONY CONVICTION, AND SAID THIS
00:08:50YEAR SHE MOVED TO COLUMBUS TO
TEACH WRITING AT TWO OHIO PRISON
00:08:54FACILITIES.
SHE SAYS OTHER STATES HAVE
00:08:56PROVEN IT'S POSSIBLE TO REDUCE
THE PRISON POPULATION WHILE
00:09:01KEEPING THE STATE'S POPULATION
SAFE.
00:09:04>> NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY,
CONNECTICUT
00:09:08HAVE ALREADY IS THEIR PRISON
POPULATION BY AT LEAST 23%, AND
00:09:15THOSE STATES THAT HAVE REDUCED
THEIR POPULATIONS THE MOST HAVE
00:09:18ALSO ENJOYED THE GREATEST
DECLINES IN VIOLENT CRIME AND IN
00:09:23PROPERTY CRIME.
SO WE KNOW REDUCING THE NUMBER
00:09:25OF PEOPLE WE PUT IN PRISON IS,
IN FACT, A CRITICAL PART OF A
00:09:29PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVE.
YOU WOULD BE PRAISING NOT TO
00:09:34WANT THE SAME RESULTS, AND
OHIOANS DESERVE THOSE SAME
00:09:35RESULTS.
KAREN: THE US JUSTICE ACTION
00:09:39NETWORK IS WORKING ON THIS ISSUE
WITH BOTH THE ACLU AND AMERICANS
00:09:40FOR TAX REFORM.
THE GROUP DID A POLL OF LIKELY
00:09:43OHIO VOTERS THAT SHOWED 65% SAID
TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING PUT IN
00:09:47PRISON AND THE STATE IS SPENDING
TOO MUCH MONEY TO KEEP THEM
00:09:51THERE; 85% SAID IT DOESN'T
MATTER HOW LONG AN OFFENDER IS
00:09:54IN PRISON, WHAT MATTERS IS
WHETHER THE OFFENDER RE-OFFENDS;
00:09:5864% SAID THERE ARE TOO MANY
CRIMINAL LAWS ON THE BOOKS; AND
00:10:0287% WOULD REPLACE MANDATORY
MINIMUM SENTENCES WITH
00:10:07SENTENCING RANGES SO JUDGES HAVE
MORE DISCRETION.
00:10:11A NATIONAL STUDY SHOWS OHIO
AMONG THE WORST STATES WHEN IT
00:10:14COMES TO FAMILIES ON THE BRINK
OF HUNGER WITH LIMITED ACCESS TO
00:10:17FOOD.
THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF
00:10:21AGRICULTURE SAYS OHIO HAS THE
HIGHEST FOOD INSECURITY RATE IN
00:10:23THE MIDWEST AND SIXTH HIGHEST
NATIONALLY.
00:10:25FOOD INSECURITY IS DEFINED BY
THE AMOUNT OF FAMILIES
00:10:28STRUGGLING TO MAKE IT FROM ONE
MEAL TO THE NEXT.
00:10:31AND THE STUDY SHOWED OHIO'S FOOD
INSECURITY RATE IS RISING, AND
00:10:34IT'S HIGHER THAN THE NATIONAL
AVERAGE.
00:10:37I TALKED THIS WEEK WITH LISA
HAMLER-FUGITT WITH THE OHIO
00:10:39ASSOCIATION OF FOODBANKS ABOUT
THE STUDY.
00:10:43LISA: IT CERTAINLY APPEARS
SOMETHING IS STRUCTURALLY WRONG
00:10:49IN OHIO, AND WE CAN POINT TO A
CONTINUING WAGE STAGNATION, THE
00:10:54JOBS THAT HAVE COME BACK OR
LOW-WAGE, PART-TIME, TEMPORARY,
00:10:57CONTINGENT, NOT FAMILY
SUPPORTING JOBS.
00:11:00THE BIG ISSUE REALLY IS THE
FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES THAT HAVE
00:11:04TAKEN PLACE TO THE FIRST LINE OF
DEFENSE AGAINST HUNGER AND THAT
00:11:09IS THE FOOD STAMP PROGRAM.
THE FEDERAL CUT THAT HAVE TAKEN
00:11:13PLACE AS WELL AS POLICY
DECISIONS HERE AT THE STATE
00:11:15LEVEL, WE HAVE LOST $492 MILLION
IN FOOD STAMP BENEFITS AVAILABLE
00:11:20TO THE POOREST OF THE FOUR AS A
RESULT OF THESE FEDERAL AND
00:11:24STATE POLICY CHANGES.
KAREN: SO WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?
00:11:27YOU TALK ABOUT FOOD STANDS AND
BETTER PAYING JOBS.
00:11:31LISA: IT HAS TO BE A COMBINATION
OF EVERYTHING, BUT MORE
00:11:37IMPORTANTLY, A CONCERTED AND
FOCUSED EXPERT ON HOW WE TURNED
00:11:40THE TREND ON POVERTY.
HUNGER IS MERELY A SYMPTOM OF
00:11:45POVERTY.
FOR TOO MANY OHIOANS WHO WORK
00:11:47EVERY DAY, THEY STILL LIVE IN
POVERTY.
00:11:49IF WE CANNOT GET WAGES UP, ONE
OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO IS
00:11:53IMPLEMENT A REFUNDABLE EARNED
INCOME TAX CREDIT.
00:11:56THE FEDERAL EARNED INCOME TAX
CREDIT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED AS THE
00:12:02MOST EFFECTIVE ANTI-POVERTY TOOL
WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
00:12:04FOR MORE EDUCATION AND TRAINING.
INDIVIDUALS CAN COMPETE FOR JOBS
00:12:11OF THE FUTURE.
WE NEED EMPLOYERS -- AND I WANT
00:12:15TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO
NATIONWIDE INSURANCE.
00:12:17WE NEED MORE LEADERS IN OUR
CORPORATE WORLD WHO SAID WE DO
00:12:20NOT WANT A WORKFORCE THAT HAS TO
BE FORCED TO STAND IN SOUP
00:12:23KITCHEN LINES.
WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF
00:12:25NATIONWIDE, THE NEW STARTING
WAGE WILL BE $15 AN HOUR.
00:12:30WE NEED MORE CORPORATE LEADERS
TO TAKE THAT KIND OF A
00:12:33LEADERSHIP ROLE.
KAREN: AND HAMLER-FUGITT NOTES
00:12:35THAT 140,000 OHIOANS HAVE LOST
FOOD STAMP BENEFITS SINCE 2013,
00:12:37MOST OF THEM BECAUSE THEY FAILED
TO MEET WORK REQUIREMENTS.
00:12:40BUT THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF JOB
SAID THE KASICH ADMINISTRATION
00:12:44HAS PUT MORE MONEY TOWARD FOOD
PANTRIES, WHILE ALSO EXPANDING
00:12:48ACCESS TO JOB TRAINING AND CHILD
CARE PROGRAMS.
00:12:52LABOR DAY WAS FOR YEARS THE
TRADITIONAL START OF THE PUSH TO
00:12:55THE FALL BALLOT.
OF COURSE, THAT'S ALL BEEN
00:12:58THROWN OUT THE WINDOW WITH THE
NEW WAY OF CAMPAIGNING -
00:13:01ESSENTIALLY STARTING A RUN FOR
OFFICE ON THE DAWN OF THE DAY
00:13:03AFTER ELECTION DAY.
THIS IS A SO-CALLED OFF YEAR,
00:13:06AND WHILE WE DO HAVE THREE
BALLOT ISSUES, THERE ARE NO
00:13:09MARQUEE STATEWIDE CANDIDATE
CONTESTS SUCH AS GOVERNOR, US
00:13:12SENATOR OR PRESIDENT.
BUT IN 29 COUNTIES, THERE ARE
00:13:17JUDICIAL RACES, AND SOME
COUNTIES FILLING MULTIPLE SEATS
00:13:21ON THE BENCH.
HOWEVER, THERE'S USUALLY LITTLE
00:13:24INFORMATION ABOUT THE CANDIDATES
IN THESE RACES.
00:13:27THAT'S WHERE A NEW WEBSITE
CALLED JUDICIALVOTESCOUNT.ORG
00:13:29COMES IN.
IT'S A PARTNERSHIP OF THE OHIO
00:13:31STATE BAR ASSOCIATION, LEAGUE OF
WOMEN VOTERS OF OHIO, OHIO
00:13:33NEWSPAPER ASSOCIATION AND OHIO
ASSOCIATION OF BROADCASTERS, AND
00:13:37IT'S HOUSED AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
AKRON'S BLISS INSTITUTE FOR
00:13:39APPLIED POLITICS.
THE WEBSITE IS PART OF A THREE
00:13:42POINT PLAN TO REFORM JUDICIAL
ELECTIONS IN OHIO.
00:13:51IT WAS CREATED BY OHIO SUPREME
COURT CHIEF JUSTICE MAUREEN
00:13:54O'CONNOR AND I'M PLEASED TO
WELCOME HER HERE TO TALK ABOUT
00:13:57THAT.
YOU HAVE A WEBSITE, JUDICIAL
00:14:00VOTES COUNT, WHY IS THAT SO
IMPORTANT TO BE PART OF THIS
00:14:04PLAN, WHAT ARE THE OTHER
ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN?
00:14:05MAUREEN: THE WEBSITE IS A RESULT
OF A SURVEY TAKEN, AND THE
00:14:12NUMBER ONE RESPONSE OF FOLKS
SAID WE DON'T VOTE FOR JUDGES.
00:14:15THE RESPONSE TO WHY IS WE DON'T
KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT JUDGES.
00:14:19WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT LEVEL OF
00:14:24JUDGESHIP THEY ARE RUNNING FOR.
THE CONFUSION ON WHAT JUDGES DO
00:14:28AND THE MULTIPLE LEVELS OF
JUDGESHIP REALLY CAME THROUGH IN
00:14:31THE SURVEY.
IT DID NOT TELL ME ANYTHING I
00:14:36DID NOT ALREADY KNOW.
YOU LOOK AT THE VOTER DROP OFF,
00:14:39YOU LOOK AT THE ROLLOFF --
KAREN: YOU HAVE CALLED IT BALLOT
00:14:45FATIGUE.
MAUREEN: IN THE COUNTIES WHERE
00:14:50THERE IS AN EXTENSIVELY LONG
BALLOT, THEY CALL IT BALLOT
00:14:54FATIGUE.
PROBABLY 25 PERCENT, AS HIGH AS
00:14:5645%.
IN 2012 IN CUYAHOGA COUNTY, ON
00:15:02THE BALLOT WAS SUPREME COURT,
APPELLATE COURT, AND OTHER.
00:15:05THERE WAS A VOTER DROP OFF IN
THE VOTERS THAT WENT TO THE
00:15:12POLLS.
WE KNEW THE PROBLEM WAS REAL,
00:15:15THAT PEOPLE DON'T VOTE FOR
JUDGES.
00:15:16WE ALSO KNOW THERE IS A REASON
FOR THAT, AND THAT IS BECAUSE
00:15:21THEY DO NOT KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT
JUDGES, THE CANDIDATES.
00:15:23THE SOLUTION IS PRETTY SIMPLE.
LET US SET UP A CENTRAL
00:15:30REPOSITORY FOR ALL OF THE
INFORMATION ABOUT THE
00:15:32CANDIDATES.
UNIFORM INFORMATION ABOUT EACH
00:15:34CANDIDATE, WHETHER THEY ARE IN
OFFICE FOLDER, CURRENT
00:15:39OFFICEHOLDER, OR THE CHALLENGER,
AND PEOPLE CAN DO ONE-STOP
00:15:42SHOPPING.
THEY CAN LOOK AT THE PEOPLE
00:15:45RUNNING FOR OFFICE, COMPARE THE
ANSWERS THEY GIVE TO THE
00:15:48IDENTICAL QUESTIONS, AND THOSE
WEBSITES CAN BE SUPPLEMENTED BY
00:15:53ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS A
CANDIDATE PROVIDES FOR THE BLISS
00:15:57INSTITUTE.
SUCH AS AN ENDORSEMENT THEY MAY
00:16:02HAVE RECEIVED OR SOMETHING
SIGNIFICANT THAT HAPPENED DURING
00:16:05THE CAMPAIGN THAT WOULD BE
INFLUENTIAL ON THEIR
00:16:08ELECTABILITY.
THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT IT IS ALL
00:16:14ABOUT.
PEOPLE USE SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY
00:16:15USE THE WEBSITE.
I JOKE PEOPLE SPEND MORE TIME
00:16:20FIGURING OUT WHAT PAIR OF SHOES
TO BUY ONLINE THAN THEY DO
00:16:25FAMILIARIZING THEMSELVES FOR THE
CANDIDATES OF POLITICAL OFFICE.
00:16:27THIS WILL MAKE IT EASY.
WE HAVE HAD IT UP AND RUNNING IN
00:16:32ABOUT ONE WEEK.
MAYBE A LITTLE LESS.
00:16:34WE HAVE ALREADY HAD ABOUT 5000
HITS.
00:16:40KAREN: THAT IS PRETTY GOOD.
BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THE OTHER
00:16:45PARTS OF THE PLAN, SEVERAL
CANDIDATES ON THE WEBSITE THAT
00:16:49MARKED AS DECLINE TO
PARTICIPATE.
00:16:50MY WOULD THAT BE?
MAUREEN: BECAUSE THEY DO NOT
00:16:54HAVE AN APPELLANT.
WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF
00:16:57JUDGESHIPS IN THIS STATE -- WHEN
THE INCUMBENT IS UP FOR
00:17:05REELECTION, THEY DO NOT HAVE
OPPOSITION.
00:17:07I'M NOT SAYING EVERY JUDGESHIP
SHOULD HAVE OPPOSITION, THAT IS
00:17:13NOT MY GOAL HERE WHATSOEVER.
THE ONES THAT DID NOT
00:17:18PARTICIPATE, I THINK, ARE THE
ONES THAT DO NOT HAVE
00:17:21OPPOSITION.
I WAS AT THE JUDICIAL CONFERENCE
00:17:23LAST WEEK AND I SAID TO THE
JUDGES THAT WERE THERE, JUST
00:17:28BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE
OPPOSITION, PLEASE FILL OUT THE
00:17:32QUESTIONNAIRE, SUBMIT THE
ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS SO
00:17:34THE PUBLIC CAN GET TO KNOW WHO
YOU ARE.
00:17:36THAT IS PART OF A SERVICE,
EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT.
00:17:42NOT ONLY DO WE TALK ABOUT THE
JUDGES AND THE CANDIDATES AND
00:17:45THEIR INFORMATION, BUT THERE IS
AN INFORMATION PART, THE
00:17:51BEGINNING, THAT TELLS YOU ABOUT
THE DIFFERENT JUDGESHIPS WE HAVE
00:17:53IN OHIO.
WHAT JUDGES DO.
00:17:54IT IS A SHORT VIDEO FOR EACH ONE
OF THE JUDGESHIPS AND THE
00:18:00SPEAKERS ARE FORMER JUDGES, AND
THEY TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY DID AS
00:18:06A PARTICULAR JUDGE.
WHETHER JUVENILE JUDGE, PROBATE
00:18:09JUDGE, COMMON PLEAS, APPELLATE,
AND SUPREME COURT, AND THE
00:18:14MUNICIPAL.
IT IS AN EDUCATIONAL TOOL.
00:18:18PEOPLE ARE CURIOUS ABOUT THE
OVAL OFFICE OTHERS.
00:18:20I THINK, EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE
OPPOSITION, IT'S INCUMBENT UPON
00:18:25YOU TO DO THAT.
I SPOKE TO THE JUDICIAL
00:18:26CONFERENCE AUDIENCE, AND SINCE I
ASKED THEM TO DO SO, SOME OF OUR
00:18:30JUDGES THAT WERE UNOPPOSED
SOFFIT TO RESPOND AND PUT THEIR
00:18:35INFORMATION OUT THERE.
KAREN: I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
00:18:41BALLOT FATIGUE.
YOU MENTIONED THE DROP OFF.
00:18:422012, THE GOVERNOR'S RACE GOT 12
MILLION VOTES.
00:18:47SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS
LACKLUSTER, BUT THERE WAS EVEN A
00:18:51DROP OFF FROM THAT, TWO POINT 5
MILLION, IN THE SUPREME COURT
00:18:55RACES.
OUR PEOPLE NOT VOTING BECAUSE
00:18:58THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE
CANDIDATES, OR ARE THERE TOO
00:19:01MANY CANDIDATES IN THESE BIG
ELECTIONS WHERE YOU HAVE
00:19:05PRESIDENT, U.S. SENATOR, OR
GOVERNOR?
00:19:06DO PEOPLE GET END BY THE END OF
THE BALLOT?
00:19:10MAUREEN: I THINK THEY DO.
ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS I THOUGHT
00:19:15OF WAS TO MOVE THESE ELECTIONS
FOR JUDGES TO ODD YEARS.
00:19:23NOW THEY ARE IN EVEN YEARS,
EXCEPT FOR MUNICIPAL COURTS.
00:19:26LET'S MOVE ALL OF THE JUDGE
RACES, ELECTIONS TO THE ODD
00:19:32YEAR.
LET'S RELABEL THEM THE JUDICIAL
00:19:34YEARS.
WE WILL GET A BIGGER
00:19:39CONCENTRATION OF ATTENTION ON
THE JUDICIAL RACES IF WE ARE
00:19:43ABLE TO DO THIS.
YOU ARE RIGHT.
00:19:43THE COMPETITION, IF IT IS A
PRESIDENTIAL YEAR -- AND I HAVE
00:19:48WRITTEN -- RUN IN A PRESIDENTIAL
YEAR, THE AIRWAYS ARE INUNDATED
00:19:57WITH ALL SORTS OF COMMERCIALS.
I JOKED IN 2010, WHEN I RAN FOR
00:20:00CHIEF JUSTICE, I PUT A HALF
MILLION DOLLARS ON TELEVISION, A
00:20:06TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY, NOT
AS MUCH AS OTHER CANDIDATES, BUT
00:20:11FOR A SUPREME COURT RACE IT WAS
ENOUGH MONEY.
00:20:13MY COMMERCIALS WERE SO
INFREQUENT I DID NOT EVEN SEE
00:20:15ONE.
WE NEED TO CUT THROUGH THAT AND
00:20:17GIVE A FORUM FOR JUDGES TO GET
THEIR MESSAGE OUT.
00:20:22WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEIR RECORD
IS, GET IT BEFORE THE PUBLIC.
00:20:26LET'S DO IT IN A LESS CROWDED
FIELD.
00:20:29IT WOULD TAKE A CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENT TO DO THIS, BUT WE
00:20:33COULD MOVE THOSE ELECTIONS TO
THE ODD YEARS.
00:20:36PEOPLE THEN COULD CONCENTRATE ON
JUDICIAL ELECTIONS AND MAKE AN
00:20:41INFORMED CHOICE.
KAREN: THE OTHER POINT OF YOUR
00:20:47THREE-POINT PLAN IS TO INCREASE
THE QUALIFICATIONS TO BECOME A
00:20:49JUDGE.
DO YOU WORRY THAT WILL HAVE A
00:20:53DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON THE PEOPLE
THAT WANT TO RUN FOR JUDGE?
00:20:54IN MANY OF THESE RACES, THEY ARE
RUNNING UNOPPOSED.
00:20:58MAUREEN: THEY ARE RUNNING
UNOPPOSED IN MANY CASES, BUT I
00:21:05DON'T THINK IT IS BECAUSE THEY
ARE ATTORNEYS THAT WOULD BE
00:21:11RUNNING EXCEPT FOR THE SIX YEARS
RULE.
00:21:12WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ENHANCING
THE PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN OUR
00:21:16JUDICIARY.
TEACH THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT
00:21:20JUDGES DO, TEACH THEM ABOUT WHO
THE JUDGES ARE, AND LET SEE IF
00:21:24WE CAN CHANGE THE COULTER AND
ENHANCE THE AWARENESS OF THE
00:21:27PUBLIC.
PART OF THAT IS IN UPGRADING THE
00:21:32QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE
JUDICIARY.
00:21:33RIGHT NOW, IT TAKES SIX YEARS AS
A PARTITIONING ATTORNEY, AND YOU
00:21:39CAN BE CHIEF JUSTICE.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY THINKS
00:21:42THAT IS NEAR ENOUGH TIME IN
ORDER TO DO THIS JOB.
00:21:44OR YOU CAN BE AN APPELLATE JUDGE
OR COMMON PLEAS.
00:21:48I JUST THINK THE QUALIFICATIONS
SHOULD BE INCREASED, AND THAT
00:21:57WOULD BE UP TO THE LEGISLATURE
ON HOW THEY WOULD DO IT.
00:22:00THE NUMBER OF YEARS.
IT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED 10 YEARS
00:22:05FOR COMMON PLEAS, 12 YEARS FOR
THE APPELLATE, 15 FOR THE
00:22:09SUPREME COURT.
THAT IS NOT REASONABLE.
00:22:10I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM
INCREASED.
00:22:11KAREN: ONE OF THE OTHER REASONS
BROUGHT UP FIVE MORE PEOPLE
00:22:17DON'T RUN IS THAT THE PAY IS NOT
WHAT MAY BE IN THE PRIVATE
00:22:23SECTOR.
THE LEGISLATURE DID INCREASE PAY
00:22:24FOR JUDGES, BUT IT IS A TWO-YEAR
BUDGET.
00:22:27THE FINAL TWO YEARS, THERE IS NO
GUARANTEE.
00:22:31MAUREEN: THEY PUT THE
LEGISLATION IN FOR FOUR YEARS.
00:22:36WHAT IT WILL TAKE IS ANOTHER
BUDGET CYCLE TO FUND THE LAST
00:22:42TWO YEARS OF THOSE PAY
INCREASES.
00:22:43I HAVE TO SAY, THE LEADERSHIP OF
THE HOUSE AND SENATE, SENATORS
00:22:48FABER AND SPEAKER ROSENBERGER,
AS WELL AS THE GOVERNOR -- IT
00:22:56WAS SO APPRECIATED BY THE
JUDICIARY.
00:22:57WE WORKED WITH THEM FOR SIX
MONTHS ON THE BUDGET.
00:23:02I PUT IT IN MY BUDGET.
THOSE IN GENTLEMAN SAW FIT TO
00:23:07PASS THAT IN THE BUDGET AND ALSO
SIGN IT INTO LEGISLATION.
00:23:12AS A WHOLE, WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL
TO THEM.
00:23:14KAREN: I WANT TO ASK ABOUT
CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM, A BIG
00:23:19TOPIC THIS WEEK.
WHAT DO YOU THINK, FROM THE
00:23:24JUDICIAL SIDE OF THINGS, IS
REALLY IMPORTANT, WHEN YOU TRY
00:23:27TO LOWER THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE
IN PRISON BUT STILL KEEP THE
00:23:29POPULATION SAFE?
MAUREEN: ACCOUNTABILITY IS THE
00:23:33KEY.
THE COMMISSION IS PUT TOGETHER
00:23:38TO LOOK AT ME RECODIFICATION,
AND THAT IS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR.
00:23:44WHATEVER IS DONE IN ORDER TO
SHIFT A CERTAIN LEVEL OF
00:23:48POPULATION OF DEFENDANTS,
INSTEAD OF SENDING THEM TO STATE
00:23:54PRISONS, STATE INSTITUTIONS, IF
THEY ARE GOING TO GET LOCALLY,
00:23:58THE KEY IS FUNDING FOR THE
LOCALS TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE
00:24:01THOSE POPULATIONS IN THEIR LOCAL
COMMUNITIES.
00:24:03WITH THE PROBATION AND TREATMENT
AND MONITORING, AND
00:24:09ACCOUNTABILITY.
THAT ENCOMPASSES A BROAD RANGE
00:24:15OF AGENCIES AND ENTITIES THAT
HAVE TO BE INVOLVED.
00:24:17SOCIAL SERVICE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE
PSYCHIATRIC AND MENTAL HEALTH
00:24:22FACILITIES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE
DRUG AND ALCOHOL TREATMENT, AND
00:24:27YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR COURTS AND
THE PROBATION SYSTEM ALL
00:24:29ADEQUATELY FUNDED.
IT IS GREAT TO TAKE THOSE
00:24:37DEFENDANTS AND TREAT THEM IN THE
COMMUNITY AND BELIEVE THE COST
00:24:40AND BURDEN ON THE STATE SYSTEM,
BUT YOU CANNOT SHIFT THE BURDEN
00:24:42TO THE LOCALS WITHOUT SHIFTING
DOLLARS THERE AS WELL.
00:24:46KAREN: WHAT ABOUT JUDICIAL
DISCRETION WHERE JUDGES DO NOT
00:24:50HAVE TO FOLLOW MANDATORY MINIMUM
SENTENCING GUIDELINES, THEY
00:24:55WOULD HAVE MORE DISCRETION TO GO
CASE-BY-CASE.
00:24:57IS THAT A GOOD IDEA?
MAUREEN: TRIAL JUDGES WOULD SAY
00:25:04YES.
ALTHOUGH THERE IS A CAP THAT
00:25:05WOULD SAY NO, IT IS OK THE WAY
IT IS.
00:25:07WHATEVER THEY COME UP WITH IN
THE RECODIFICATION -- BECAUSE
00:25:14THERE ARE JUDGES ON THE
COMMITTEE -- THAT IS WHAT IS
00:25:16IMPORTANT.
IT IS MADE UP NOT ONLY OF LAW
00:25:18ENFORCEMENT AND LEGISLATORS AND
OTHER INTEREST GROUPS, BUT THERE
00:25:22ARE A NUMBER OF JUDGES THAT ARE
PART OF THAT RECODIFICATION
00:25:26PROGRAM.
SO THEY WILL BE ADDRESSING THOSE
00:25:28ISSUES HEAD ON.
KAREN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
00:25:33CHIEF JUSTICE MAUREEN O'CONNOR.
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