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00:00:35>> THE ELECTION OF 2011 IS IN
THE BOOKS.
00:00:44BUT SENATE BILL 5 NO LONGER IS.
HOWEVER, THERE'S AN ADDITION TO
00:00:48THE OHIO CONSTITUTION.
AND THE FOLKS WHO SPEARHEADED
00:00:51THAT AMENDMENT HAVE ALREADY
STARTED THEIR NEXT CAMPAIGN --
00:00:53TO THE FURY OF THOSE WHO OPPOSED
SENATE BILL 5.
00:00:54A FULL RUNDOWN ON THE THREE
ISSUES ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT
00:00:57-- AND WHAT HAPPENS NOW THAT
VOTERS HAVE HAD THEIR SAY.
00:00:58THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO."
00:01:01>> WITH NEARLY EVERY ELECTION
NIGHT, THERE IS A PLACE TO BE.
00:01:07IN THIS OFF YEAR ELECTION, IT
WAS AT THE PARTY HOSTED BY THE
00:01:12COALITION THAT PUT SENATE BILL
5 ON THE BALLOT.
00:01:14AND WE ARE OHIO HAD A LOT TO
CELEBRATE -- WITH UNOFFICIAL
00:01:19TOTALS SHOWING ISSUE 2 WAS
LOSING BY A 22 POINT MARGIN,
00:01:2161% TO 39%.
IT WAS PERHAPS THE MOST
00:01:27EXPENSIVE ISSUE CAMPAIGN IN
OHIO HISTORY -- BOTH SIDES
00:01:30SPENT NEARLY $40 MILLION, WITH
THE ANTI-ISSUE 2 FORCES
00:01:33OUTSPENDING THE VOTE YES SIDE 3
TO 1.
00:01:37THE ELECTION NIGHT PARTY
STARTED WITH A COLOR GUARD
00:01:43CIRCLING THE CROWD IN THE
BALLROOM AT THE HYATT REGENCY IN
00:01:45COLUMBUS, FOLLOWED BY A KICKOFF
FROM THE EVENING'S MC,
00:01:48CINCINNATI FIREFIGHTER DOUG
STERN.
00:01:50>> THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST
DIVERSE ORGANIZATION I HAVE EVER
00:01:58SEEN.
BLACK, WHITE, MEN, WOMEN, LABOR,
00:02:02NON-LIBERAL REPUBLICANS,
DEMOCRATS DID WHAT WE HAVE
00:02:07SEEING IS A HIGH STICK TO THE
PLATE TO A 17,000 VOLUNTEERS.
00:02:11YOUR NEIGHBORS, YOUR FAMILY
MEMBERS, THE PEOPLE YOU GO TO
00:02:14CHURCH WITH, HAVE ALL STOOD AND
SAID NO TO A SENATE BILL 5.
00:02:19NOTE TO THE ATTACK ON THE MIDDLE
CLASS.
00:02:21>> THE WE ARE OHIO PARTY
FEATURED A PARADE OF SPEAKERS
00:02:24INCLUDING TEACHERS, A NURSE, A
ZOOKEEPER, A PRISON WORKER, A
00:02:27SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, SOME
LOCAL UNION LEADERS, AND EVEN
00:02:29MARLENE QUINN, WHO HAD THE
DISTINCTION OF BEING FEATURED IN
00:02:31AN ANTI-ISSUE 2 AD AND IN A PRO-
ISSUE 2 AD, WHEN THE VOTE YES
00:02:36SIDE STRIPPED THE VIDEO OF HER
FROM THE VOTE NO AD AND REWORKED
00:02:39IT -- WITHOUT HER MESSAGE OF
OPPOSITION TO THE LAW.
00:02:42BUT SAVE FOR A BRIEF APPEARANCE
BY MIKE COLEMAN -- WHO WAS
00:02:48SAVORING HIS ELECTION TO A
RECORD FOURTH TERM AS COLUMBUS
00:02:51MAYOR, THERE WERE FEW ELECTED
OFFICIALS IN SIGHT.
00:02:53BUT THERE WERE SOME IN THE
CROWD -- DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS
00:02:58MEMBERS MARCY KAPTUR AND TIM
RYAN, AND SEVERAL STATE
00:03:00LAWMAKERS, INCLUDING MINORITY
LEADER ARMOND BUDISH.
00:03:03>> GOVERNOR KASICH AND THE
SPEAKER AND OTHERS HAVE HAD --
00:03:12HAVE HEARD THE VOICES OF THE
PEOPLE THIS YEAR.
00:03:14THEY DO NOT HEAR WHAT THE PEOPLE
ARE SAYING.
00:03:16IF THEY DID, I DO NOT BELIEVE
GOVERNOR KASICH WOULD HAVE SPENT
00:03:19THE LAST THREE MONTHS GOING
AROUND THE STATE PROMOTING
00:03:22ISSUED TWO.
I DO NOT BELIEVE HE WOULD HAVE
00:03:25MADE HIMSELF THE FACE THAT ISSUE
TWO IN COMMERCIALS THAT THEY HAD
00:03:28HEARD WHAT THE PEOPLE WERE
SAYING.
00:03:30IT IS UNFORTUNATE, OF THE
REPUBLICANS CONTINUE TO BRING
00:03:34BACK ISSUE 5, ISSUED TWO, SENATE
BILL 5, THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN
00:03:38AND WILL CONTINUE TO SPEAK.
WE DO NOT WANT THIS RADICAL
00:03:41AGENDA PUSHED ON THE PEOPLE OF
OHIO.
00:03:44WE WANT WORKING PEOPLE
SUPPORTED.
00:03:46WE WANT POLICE OFFICERS
SUPPORTED.
00:03:48WE WANT FIREFIGHTERS, NURSES,
AND TEACHERS SUPPORTED.
00:03:52NOT TORN DOWN.
>> DEMOCRATIC FORMER GOVERNOR
00:03:54TED STRICKLAND WAS ALSO IN THE
CROWD, SUGGESTING WHAT HE THINKS
00:03:57THE FALLOUT SHOULD BE.
>> THERE NEEDS TO BE A MORE
00:04:02HUMBLE ATTITUDE ON THE PART OF
THE ADMINISTRATION.
00:04:04THEY NEED TO STOP THE NAME-
CALLING AND THE ACCUSATIONS AND
00:04:09THE THREATS.
THEY NEED TO STOP THE TALK OF
00:04:12RUNNING OVER PEOPLE WITH A BUS.
THEY NEED TO STOP CALLING POLICE
00:04:17OFFICERS' NAMES, LIKE IDIOTS.
AND THE NEED TO STOP THREATENING
00:04:20THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BREAK THE
BACKS OF THE TEACHERS' UNIONS.
00:04:22AND THEY NEED TO, IN A HUMBLE
SPIRIT, COME TO THE PUBLIC
00:04:28EMPLOYEES AND SAY THAT WE HAVE
GOT A GREAT STATE, WE HAVE GOT
00:04:31LOTS OF PROBLEMS.
HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER TO
00:04:35SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS?
I THINK IF THEY DO THAT, THEY
00:04:37WILL BE MET WITH A WILLING
ATTITUDE TO TRY TO DO WHAT IS
00:04:42RIGHT FOR A HEIGL.
>> AND JUST OUTSIDE THE
00:04:44BALLROOM, OHIO AFL-CIO
PRESIDENT JOE RUGOLA WAS ALSO
00:04:46SPECULATING ON WHAT HAPPENS NOW
THAT SENATE BILL 5 HAS BEEN
00:04:48WIPED FROM THE BOOKS.
>> NOW I THINK THE DECISION IS
00:04:55REALLY A TO THE GOVERNOR AND HIS
ALLIES IN THE REPUBLICAN
00:04:59LEGISLATURE.
AND WHILE WE ARE SENSITIVE TO
00:05:03THE CONCERNS OHIOANS HAVE, WE'RE
GOING TO BE ADAMANT AND
00:05:08INSISTENT THAT THE NEEDS AND THE
INTERESTS OF WORKING FAMILIES,
00:05:11PARTICULARLY THE PEOPLE WE
REPRESENT, ARE NOT LOST IN THE
00:05:15DISCUSSION AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
>> SO YOU'RE READY TO DEAL, BUT
00:05:20IT IS QUALIFIED READY?
>> WE ARE READY TO DEAL, BUT
00:05:23THAT DEAL HAS TO HAVE A MORAL
COMPONENT TO IT.
00:05:26THAT MORAL COMPONENT IS THE
QUESTION OF HOW THE WEALTHIEST
00:05:33IN OUR SOCIETY ARE READY TO
SACRIFICE.
00:05:36WE CANNOT JUST ASK -- WE CANNOT
JUST ASK THE SANITATION WORKERS
00:05:41TO GIVE UP WHAT THEY FOUGHT FOR
AND EARNED OVER THE YEARS.
00:05:45THE BETTER-OFF, THE WEALTHIEST,
THE MOST POWERFUL, THEY ALSO
00:05:48HAVE TO BE READY TO SACRIFICE.
AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, THAT
00:05:53IS THE BASELINE FOR ANY
DISCUSSIONS MOVING FORWARD.
00:05:55>> OFTEN ON ELECTION NIGHT,
CANDIDATES AND CAMPAIGNS TALK
00:05:58ABOUT THE HARD WORK AHEAD
STARTING IMMEDIATELY.
00:06:00BUT FOR BOTH SIDES IN THIS
DEBATE, THAT MAY NOT BE JUST
00:06:02RHETORIC.
ALL THE CHANGES AND REFORMS IN
00:06:05SENATE BILL 5 DON'T EXIST, BUT
THE FINANCIAL CRISES THAT SOME
00:06:09COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOL
DISTRICTS ARE FACING STILL DO.
00:06:11THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN TO PASS
SENATE BILL 5 AND THEN TO
00:06:16APPROVE ISSUE 2, REPUBLICANS
SAID SENATE BILL 5 WOULD HELP
00:06:19THOSE ENTITIES DEAL WITH COSTS.
AT AN UNUSUAL ELECTION NIGHT
00:06:24NEWS CONFERENCE, GOVERNOR JOHN
KASICH STOOD IN A ROOM IN THE
00:06:28STATEHOUSE FLANKED BY SENATE
PRESIDENT TOM NIEHAUS AND HOUSE
00:06:30SPEAKER BILL BATCHELDER AND
OFFERED HIS REACTION TO THE
00:06:33VOTE.
>> IT'S CLEAR THAT THE PEOPLE
00:06:36HAVE SPOKEN AND YOU KNOW, MY
VIEW IS WHEN PEOPLE SPEAK IN A
00:06:41CAMPAIGN LIKE THIS, YOU HAVE TO
LISTEN WHEN YOU'RE A PUBLIC
00:06:46SERVANT.
THERE ISN'T ANY QUESTION ABOUT
00:06:48THAT.
I'VE HEARD THEIR VOICES.
00:06:50I UNDERSTAND THEIR DECISION,
AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE
00:06:55HAVE TO SAY IN AN EFFORT LIKE
THIS.
00:07:01AND IT REQUIRES ME TO TAKE A
DEEP BREATH AND TO SPEND SOME
00:07:09TIME REFLECTING ON WHAT HAPPENED
HERE.
00:07:10YOU HAVE A CAMPAIGN LIKE THIS,
YOU GIVE IT YOUR BEST, IF YOU
00:07:17DON'T WIN AND THE PEOPLE SPEAK
IN A LOUD VOICE, YOU PAY
00:07:20ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO
SAY AND YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
00:07:23AND SO, PEOPLE ASK WHAT WILL
YOU DO IF THIS DOESN'T FAIL? I
00:07:27CAN TELL YOU KNOW -- IT'S A
CHANCE TO CATCH MY BREATH AND
00:07:31GATHER MY THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT WE
DO NEXT.
00:07:34>> BUT WHILE KASICH
CONGRATULATED THE ANTI-ISSUE 2
00:07:41FORCES, HE ALSO CAUTIONED THEM
THAT THERE COULD BE TROUBLE
00:07:44AHEAD FOR THE COMMUNITIES THAT
EMPLOY THE WORKERS WHO FOUGHT
00:07:48AGAINST THE LAW.
>> WE'LL WORK WITH THEM TO HELP
00:07:51THEM OVERCOME THEIR CHALLENGES.
BUT LET ME BE CLEAR -- THERE'S
00:07:54NO BAILOUT COMING.
THERE'S NO BAILOUT BECAUSE
00:07:57FRANKLY, THERE'S NO MONEY.
WE ARE NOT IN A POSITION AFTER
00:08:01DIGGING OUR WAY OUT OF A HUGE
HOLE AND FORTUNATELY, BEING
00:08:03ABLE TO GET A CREDIT UPGRADE FOR
OUR STATE -- AN IMPROVEMENT
00:08:07FROM NEGATIVE WATCH TO STABLE.
WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH
00:08:13OUR MONEY BECAUSE WE REALIZE
THESE ARE TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES.
00:08:15BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT
IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE
00:08:19VERY IMPORTANT FOR LOCAL
COMMUNITIES TO FIGURE OUT WAYS
00:08:21TO DEAL WITH THEIR COST
CHALLENGES.
00:08:23>> IT WAS A TOUGH NIGHT FOR THE
PRO-ISSUE 2 CAMPAIGN.
00:08:27ITS SPOKESMAN WAS JASON MAUK,
WHO'S NOW RETURNING TO HIS JOB
00:08:32AS COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR
THE OHIO SENATE REPUBLICANS.
00:08:35HE CALLS THE VOTE AGAINST ISSUE
2 "A GUT CHECK," AND HE HAD HIS
00:08:40OWN PREDICTION OF WHAT'S GOING
TO HAPPEN NEXT.
00:08:42>> IT IS AMAZING HOW MUCH MONEY
THE OTHER SIDE SPEND TO DEFEND
00:08:50BUSINESS AS USUAL.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT MEANS THE
00:08:53CONTINUAL LAYOFF OF GOOD
GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES TO PROVIDE
00:08:57VITAL SERVICES.
IT IS GOING TO MEAN THAT OUR
00:08:59COMMUNITIES WILL HAVE TO KEEP
GOING BACK TO ASK FOR HIGHER
00:09:02TAXES IN A TOUGH ECONOMY.
THAT IS UNFORTUNATE.
00:09:06THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN.
THEY MADE IT CLEAR THAT WE DID
00:09:08NOT REALLY LIKE THIS PARTICULAR
DIRECTION OR MAYBE PARTS OF THIS
00:09:12PACKAGE.
SO WE JUST NEED TO RECALIBRATE
00:09:15AND THEN FIGURE OUT, OK, WHAT DO
WE NEED TO DO TO MOVE OHIO
00:09:19FORWARD?
WE ARE MAKING A LOT OF GREAT
00:09:21PROGRESS BUT WE CANNOT AFFORD TO
STOP.
00:09:23>> BUT ALL NIGHT LONG, AS ISSUE
2 OPPONENTS WERE CELEBRATING
00:09:26THEIR BIG WIN, THERE WAS
ANOTHER VICTORY THAT JUST
00:09:28STARTING TO GET ATTENTION.
ISSUE 3, THE AMENDMENT THAT
00:09:31WOULD ALLOW OHIOANS TO OPT OUT
OF A GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE
00:09:34SYSTEM, WAS BEING APPROVED, AND
IN BIG NUMBERS.
00:09:35UNOFFICIAL RESULTS SHOW IT HAD
THE LARGEST MARGIN OF THE THREE
00:09:39STATEWIDE ISSUES.
IT WON 66% TO 34%.
00:09:41JEFF LONGSTRETH WAS THE
CAMPAIGN MANAGER FOR OHIOANS
00:09:47FOR HEALTHCARE FREEDOM.
HE AND THE ISSUE'S BACKERS WERE
00:09:52AT A SMALL ITALIAN RESTAURANT A
BLOCK FROM THE STATEHOUSE,
00:09:55WATCHING RETURNS ON A BIG
SCREEN TV.
00:09:56LONGSTRETH ADMITS THAT HAVING
AS ISSUE 3'S TITLE ON THE
00:10:00BALLOT THE WORDS "PRESERVATION
OF THE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE HEALTH
00:10:03CARE AND HEALTH CARE COVERAGE"
HELPED A BIT.
00:10:06>> EVERYONE LOVES FREEDOM.
>> YOU THING THAT GOT THE MORE
00:10:13VOTES THAN OTHERWISE?
WHEN FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM AND
00:10:17LIBERTY, I THINK THE WORDS WORK.
REGARDLESS OF HOW THEY ARE ON
00:10:20THE BALLOT, THAT IS WHAT THIS IS
ABOUT.
00:10:22ABOUT GIVING PEOPLE FREEDOM,
RATHER THAN SOME GOVERNMENT
00:10:25TAKING IT AWAY.
VOTERS RESPOND TO THAT.
00:10:27IT YOU'LL SEE THE WORD FREEDOM
LOT MORE.
00:10:31I THINK YOU WILL SEE HOPEFULLY
TAXPAYER FREEDOM, AND WHO KNOWS
00:10:34WHAT IS NEXT.
FREEDOM IS A POWERFUL WORD.
00:10:36>> PROGRESSIVE AND LIBERAL
GROUPS OPPOSED ISSUE 3, BUT IN
00:10:41CONTRAST TO THEIR CAMPAIGN
AGAINST ISSUE 2, THEY SPENT
00:10:44ALMOST NO MONEY ON IT.
A STATEMENT FROM THE NO ON 3
00:10:48COALITION READ IN PART --
"THE TEA PARTY AND ITS OUT-OF-
00:10:51STATE RIGHT WING ALLIES
INTENTIONALLY MISLED OHIO
00:10:54VOTERS BY TELLING THEM THAT
ISSUE 3 WAS ABOUT REPEALING WHAT
00:10:57THEY CALL 'OBAMACARE.'
AND BECAUSE OF THAT LIE, THE
00:11:01AMENDMENT WE'VE NOW ADDED TO
THE OHIO CONSTITUTION WILL
00:11:04JEOPARDIZE AND POSSIBLY
INVALIDATE A HOST OF ALREADY
00:11:08EXISTING LAWS AND REGULATIONS
THAT WE RELY ON TO PROTECT THE
00:11:11VULNERABLE, ENSURE PUBLIC
HEALTH, AND REGULATE THE
00:11:14MEDICAL AND INSURANCE
PROFESSIONS. THE CONSEQUENCES OF
00:11:17ISSUE 3 WILL BE COSTLY AND
DANGEROUS."
00:11:19>> AND DALE BUTLAND WITH THE
PROGRESSIVE-LEANING THINK TANK
00:11:24INNOVATION OHIO SAID ON
ELECTION NIGHT --
00:11:25>> WHEN THOSE CONSEQUENCES ARE
FULLY EXPOSED, WHEN THE
00:11:29TAXPAYERS LEARN THEY'RE ON THE
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN -- ON THE
00:11:36HOOK FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN
UNNECESSARY LAW SUITS AND LEGAL
00:11:38EXPENSES -- THE REPUBLICAN
OFFICIALS WHO ENDORSED THIS
00:11:41AMENDMENT FOR PURELY POLITICAL
REASONS WILL BE UNMASKED.
00:11:43IN TIME, OHIOANS WILL BE FORCED
TO FIX OR REPEAL THIS AMENDMENT.
00:11:45>> THE OHIO DEMOCRATIC PARTY
HAD URGED A NO VOTE ON ALL
00:11:49THREE STATEWIDE ISSUES.
CHAIRMAN CHRIS REDFERN SAYS THE
00:11:53PARTY FOCUSED ITS EFFORTS ON
ISSUE 2 BECAUSE OF ITS
00:11:56IMPORTANCE AND LARGELY IGNORED
ISSUE 3, WHICH REDFERN SAYS IS
00:12:00MEANINGLESS.
AND HE SAYS TEA PARTY GROUPS
00:12:03KNOW IT.
>> THOSE ACTIVISTS PUSHED THESE
00:12:09KINDS OF DIVISIVE ISSUES AND
TEND TO FORGET THAT, IN FACT,
00:12:17THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE
SUPREMACY CLAUSE MAKES WHAT
00:12:23HAPPENED LAST NIGHT WITH REGARD
TO ISSUE THREE NIL AND VOID.
00:12:26IT WAS ESSENTIALLY A POPULARITY
CONTEST.
00:12:30IT IS TO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD BE
THE HOMECOMING QUEEN.
00:12:33THESE THINGS COME AND THEY GO.
AND IT IS NOT ENFORCEABLE.
00:12:37>> THE GROUP THAT WORKED TO PUT
THE AMENDMENT ON THE BALLOT
00:12:40SPENT VERY LITTLE MONEY
PROMOTING IT, OUTSIDE OF YARD
00:12:42SIGNS AND CAMPAIGN LITERATURE.
AND OHIO LIBERTY COUNCIL CO-
00:12:45FOUNDER CHRIS LITTLETON SAYS
THE COALITION THAT PUT TOGETHER
00:12:47THIS WIN ISN'T FINISHED -- BY A
LONG SHOT.
00:12:50>> THERE IS A NUMBER OF POLICY
OBJECTIVES THAT A LOT OF US
00:12:57HAVE, AND THEY ALL INVOLVE
PROTECTING OR ENHANCING PERSONAL
00:13:01AND ECONOMIC FREEDOM IN THE
STATE OF OHIO.
00:13:03YOU WILL SEE VERY SOON THAT
THERE ARE SOME POLICY THINGS
00:13:06THAT WE WANT TO PURSUE.
THERE ARE SOME DIRECTIONS WE
00:13:09WANT TO GO IN.
>> CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE?
00:13:11>> NO, I CANNOT GIVE YOU AN
EXAMPLE.
00:13:14BUT YOU KNOW OVER THE COURSE OF
THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
00:13:16WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
WE HAVE A LONG-TERM VISION FOR
00:13:20OHIO.
THIS SHOULD NOT BE A STATE THAT
00:13:23RESTRICT PERSONAL ECONOMIC
FREEDOM.
00:13:24IT SHOULD ENHANCE IT.
THAT IS THE MESSAGE THAT WE WILL
00:13:27TAKE AWAY FROM THIS FOR YEARS TO
COME BEFORE US, IT IS THE
00:13:30BEGINNING OF SOMETHING SPECIAL.
>> AND WHILE LITTLETON WOULDN'T
00:13:33GET SPECIFIC ON ELECTION NIGHT,
IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR THE
00:13:36NEXT PROJECT FROM HIS COALITION
TO BE REVEALED.
00:13:37TWO DAYS LATER, HE HIMSELF
INTRODUCED A GROUP'S PROPOSED
00:13:41CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, THE
OHIO WORKPLACE FREEDOM
00:13:44AMENDMENT.
>> IF ANY OHIO WORKER WANTS TO
00:13:50JOIN A UNION, THEY SHOULD BE
FREE TO DO SO.
00:13:52BUT IF ANY OHIO WORKER DOES NOT
WANT TO JOIN A UNION, THEY
00:13:58SHOULD BE FREE TO MAKE THEIR
DECISION AS WELL.
00:14:01AS THAT BY GUARANTEEING WORKERS
THEIR FREEDOM OF CHOICE IN THE
00:14:10WORKPLACE, WE ARE ENHANCING BUT
PERSONAL AND ECONOMIC FREEDOM.
00:14:14THEREFORE, MOVING OHIO FURTHER
DOWN THE PATH OF PROSPERITY.
00:14:18FREEDOM HAS NO SINGULAR OWNER,
NOR SHOULD IT.
00:14:20WE WANT TO GUARANTEE THAT
FREEDOM FOR ALL OHIOANS IN THEIR
00:14:23RESPECTIVE WORK PLACES.
>> RIGHT NOW, OHIO ALLOWS UNION
00:14:26CONTRACTS TO REQUIRE PAYMENTS
BY ALL WORKERS.
00:14:27BUT IF THIS AMENDMENT IS
APPROVED FOR THE BALLOT AND
00:14:31UPHELD BY VOTERS, IT WOULD MAKE
OHIO A SO-CALLED RIGHT TO WORK
00:14:34STATE, WHICH MEANS WORKERS
WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY UNION DUES
00:14:36OR EVEN PARTIAL PAYMENTS TO GET
OR KEEP A JOB WHETHER IT'S FOR
00:14:42GOVERNMENT OR IN THE PRIVATE
SECTOR.
00:14:43OHIO WOULD BE THE FIRST STATE IN
THE MIDWEST TO BE A RIGHT TO
00:14:46WORK STATE IF THE AMENDMENT IS
OK'ED.
00:14:47REACTION TO THE ANNOUNCEMENT
WAS SWIFT AND BIPARTISAN.
00:14:51UNION GROUPS ARE CALLING IT THE
"RIGHT TO WORK FOR LESS"
00:14:55AMENDMENT, AND THE OHIO
DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND THE ANTI-
00:14:57ISSUE 2 WE ARE OHIO ISSUED VERY
SIMILAR STATEMENTS, BOTH NOTING
00:15:03THAT VOTERS HAD REJECTED SENATE
BILL 5 LESS THAN 48 HOURS
00:15:06BEFORE.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S
00:15:11STATEMENT READS IN PART --
"RATHER THAN MOVING OUR STATE
00:15:13FORWARD AND HELPING TO CREATE
JOBS, THE TEA PARTY WANTS TO
00:15:16REVIVE DIVISIVE DEBATES THAT
OHIO VOTERS SETTLED HALF A
00:15:20CENTURY AGO AND RESOUNDINGLY
REAFFIRMED THIS WEEK.
00:15:22DESPITE WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR
STATE - AND DESPITE THE WILL OF
00:15:27THE PEOPLE - SOME OF JOHN
KASICH'S CLOSEST ALLIES ARE
00:15:30STILL HELL-BENT ON ATTACKING
THE HARDWORKING MEN AND WOMEN
00:15:33OF OHIO."
THE STATEMENT FROM WE ARE OHIO
00:15:36READS IN PART --
"STATISTICS SHOW THAT RIGHT TO
00:15:40WORK STATES HAVE LOWER WAGES
AND THAT RIGHT TO WORK ENDANGERS
00:15:42THE SAFETY AND HEALTH STANDARDS
THAT PROTECT WORKERS ON THE JOB.
00:15:44NOW IS THE TIME TO RESPECT OHIO
VOTER'S WISHES, STOP ATTACKING
00:15:50HARDWORKING OHIOANS AND FOCUS
ON MUCH NEEDED JOB CREATION."
00:15:52>> BUT REPUBLICAN SENATE
PRESIDENT TOM NIEHAUS ALSO PUT
00:15:58OUT A STATEMENT, WHICH SEEMS TO
AGREE ON ONE POINT.
00:16:00HIS ENTIRE STATEMENT READS --
"WE JUST FINISHED A VERY
00:16:05DIVISIVE AND CONTENTIOUS
ELECTION, AND OHIOANS MADE IT
00:16:08CLEAR THEY WANT US TO BE MORE
DELIBERATE IN OUR APPROACH TO
00:16:11MAJOR REFORM.
WE NEED TO WORK TO BUILD
00:16:15CONSENSUS ON THE DIRECTION WE
TAKE FROM HERE.
00:16:16JOB CREATION REMAINS OUR NUMBER
ONE PRIORITY.
00:16:18TOO MANY OHIOANS ARE OUT OF
WORK, AND WE NEED DO TO
00:16:23EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE OUR
STATE MORE COMPETITIVE.
00:16:26WE HAVE MADE INCREDIBLE
PROGRESS THIS YEAR IN
00:16:28ELIMINATING AN $8 BILLION BUDGET
SHORTFALL WITHOUT RAISING TAXES.
00:16:31OHIO HAS SAVED OR CREATED MORE
THAN 40,000 JOBS, AND WE NOW
00:16:36RANK FIFTH IN THE NATION IN JOB
CREATION.
00:16:37I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
TOGETHER WITH MY LEGISLATIVE
00:16:41COLLEAGUES TO KEEP THAT
MOMENTUM GOING."
00:16:43>> WE'LL HAVE A FULL DEBATE ON
THE OHIO WORKPLACE FREEDOM
00:16:48AMENDMENT AND WHETHER OHIO
SHOULD BECOME A RIGHT TO WORK
00:16:51STATE ON NEXT WEEK'S SHOW.
BUT BACK TO THE ELECTION OF
00:16:542011.
THERE WAS ONE OTHER ISSUE ON
00:16:56THE STATEWIDE BALLOT -- ISSUE
1, WHICH WOULD HAVE RAISED THE
00:16:59MANDATORY RETIREMENT AGE FOR
JUDGES FROM 70 TO 75.
00:17:02IT WAS SUPPORTED BY REPUBLICANS
AND OPPOSED BY DEMOCRATS AND
00:17:06THE OHIO PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION, AND IT FAILED
00:17:10DRAMATICALLY - 62% TO 38%.
REPUBLICAN CHIEF JUSTICE
00:17:15MAUREEN O'CONNOR, WHO HAD BEEN
THE TOP VOTE GETTER IN THE 2010
00:17:19ELECTIONS, APPEARED IN THE VERY
LITTLE ADVERTISING THAT WAS
00:17:22DONE FOR THIS ISSUE.
IT'S ESTIMATED 10% OF SITTING
00:17:25JUDGES WILL BE AFFECTED BY THE
RETENTION OF THE 1973 LAW THAT
00:17:29SET AT 70 THE MAXIMUM AGE AT
WHICH AN OHIO JUDGE CAN STAY ON
00:17:33THE BENCH.
FOR A FEW FINAL THOUGHTS, I'M
00:17:37JOINED BY BILL COHEN AND JO
INGLES FROM THE STATEHOUSE NEWS
00:17:39BUREAU.
>> BILL, YOU WERE OUR RESIDENT
00:17:46EXPERT COVERAGE ISSUE TWO THIS
WEEK, A LOT OF TIME ON NPR.
00:17:51WHAT DO THE CAPTAIN WOULD ISSUE
TWO?
00:17:54THE POLLS SHOWED IT WAS GOING TO
LOSE.
00:17:55I DO NOT THINK ANYBODY WAS
SUPPRESSED.
00:17:58WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENED?
>> I THINK IT LOST 61-39 FOR
00:18:02THREE OR FOUR MAJOR REASONS.
MOST OHIOANS GOT IT OVERREACHED,
00:18:06WENT TOO FAR.
PEOPLE TOLD POLLSTERS THAT LIKE
00:18:09SOME PART, BUT THEY THOUGHT THE
OVERALL PACKAGE OVERREACHED.
00:18:12EVEN SOME REPUBLICANS VOTED TO
GET RID OF IT.
00:18:15IT ALSO INCLUDED POLICE AND
FIREFIGHTERS.
00:18:18THAT GAVE THE VOTE NO FORCES A
CHANCE TO READ THESE IN THEIR
00:18:21ADS, POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS.
THE VOTE YES' CAMPAIGN WAS LED
00:18:26BY AN UNPOPULAR GOVERNOR, JOHN
KASICH, AND THAT DID NOT HELP.
00:18:29>> BUT IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE
THE TURNOUT, NO ON ONE, NO ON
00:18:34TWO, YES ON THREE.
THAT WAS A STORY THAT YOU'RE
00:18:37FOLLOWING, JOE, ON ELECTION
NIGHT.
00:18:39THAT WAS A SURPRISE TO SOME
PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY AS BIG A
00:18:42VICTORY FOR THE ISSUE THREE
FOLKS.
00:18:44>> IT WAS ACTUALLY A BIGGER WIN
FOR THE ISSUE 3 FOLKS THAT ISSUE
00:18:50TWO WAS FOR THE ISSUE TWO WEST.
HOW MANY ADS DID YOU HEAR ABOUT
00:18:54ISSUE THREE?
NOT MUCH.
00:18:57THE OHIO DEMOCRAT PARTY CHAIR
SAYS THAT THEY DID NOT PUT MUCH
00:18:59INTO THAT.
BECAUSE, FIRST, THEY DO NOT
00:19:01THINK IT IS ENFORCEABLE.
THEY THINK THIS IS A FEDERAL
00:19:04ISSUE AND THAT THE OHIO
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT WILL
00:19:09NOT HAVE MUCH EFFECT ON THAT.
BUT THEY ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW,
00:19:11THEY WANTED TO MAKE SHORT ISSUE
TWO WENT THE RIGHT WAY.
00:19:14THAT IS WHAT THEY DID.
>> ON ISSUE 3, IT WAS KIND OF
00:19:19WRITTEN IN THE MOTHER AND APPLE
PIE WAY.
00:19:21THE WORDING PEOPLE SAW WAS TO
PRESERVE THE FREEDOM OF OHIOANS
00:19:25IN HEALTH CARE -- WELL, OK, I
CAN GO WITH THAT.
00:19:29NOBODY REALLY LOOKED TO SEE WHAT
WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT.
00:19:32>> WE ARE STARTING TO SEE SOME
OF THAT WITH THE NEXT PROJECT
00:19:35THIS GROUP HAS, THE WORKPLACE
REID AMENDMENT IF THERE IS THAT
00:19:39WORD FREEDOM, WHICH EVERYBODY
LIKES.
00:19:42EVERYBODY SUPPORTS FREEDOM.
IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE THE
00:19:45NATIONAL ATTENTION COMING OUR
WAY.
00:19:47YOU HAVE NATIONAL UNIONS,
NATIONAL POLITICAL PARTIES ALL
00:19:51WEIGHING IN, TRYING TO DECIPHER
WHAT THE DEFEAT OF ISSUE TWO,
00:19:55THE APPROVAL OF ISSUE 3 MEANS.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN GOING
00:19:59FORWARD?
OHIO IS STILL A PURPLE STATE,
00:20:01EVEN AFTER 2010 AND THE RED TIDE
HAS SLIPPED OVER?
00:20:05>> ISSUED TWO CERTAINLY
ENERGIZED THE UNIONS.
00:20:10ONE VETERAN TOLD US A COUPLE
MONTHS AGO THAT WE WERE ON LIFE
00:20:13SUPPORT.
THANK GOODNESS THE REPUBLICANS
00:20:15DID THIS TO US SO WE COULD REACT
TO IT AND GET REENERGIZE.
00:20:18AT LEAST ON THE UNION SIDE, IT
SEEMS TO HAVE ENERGIZED THEIR
00:20:23FORCES.
THEY THINK THEY CAN CARRY THIS
00:20:24OVER TO 2012 AND HELPED OBAMA.
>> AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER GOING
00:20:28FORWARD ON THIS NEW AMENDMENT,
THE WORKPLACE FREEDOM ACT, WHAT
00:20:33THEY ARE TRYING TO DO IS GET RID
OF THE MANDATORY UNION DUES OR
00:20:36THE FAIR SHARE PAYMENTS.
THAT WILL KEEP THE UNIONS
00:20:39ENERGIZE BUT THEY'RE GOING TO
GET THEIR PEOPLE TO GIVE THE
00:20:42MONEY, AND IT IS GOING TO WORK.
>> ISN'T THAT A POTENTIAL
00:20:47MISCALCULATION, THE IDEA OF THE
UNION FORCES MAY BE EXHAUSTED
00:20:49FROM THIS BATTLE, FINANCIALLY,
AS WELL AS MAY BE EMOTIONALLY?
00:20:53THAT CERTAINLY ENERGIZES THEM IN
A YEAR THAT WILL ALREADY BE
00:20:59INTERESTED IN THE PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTION.
00:21:01>> YES, AND THE KIND OF THOUGHT
THAT THAT.
00:21:03WHEN TALKING ABOUT THE
PRESIDENTIAL RACE, THEY SAID
00:21:05THAT IT MIGHT HAPPEN DURING
2012, BUT IT MIGHT ALSO BE 2013.
00:21:09THEY POINT OUT THAT ON THE
HEALTH CARE AMENDMENT, IT DID A
00:21:12GOOD 18 MONTHS TO GET THE
SIGNATURES NEEDED TO PUT THAT ON
00:21:15THE BALLOT.
CALCULATING THAT OUT, IF IT TOOK
00:21:18THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET
SIGNATURES FOR THE SURPLUS
00:21:21FREEDOM ACT, IT WOULD TAKE A
WHILE.
00:21:23>> BILL, YOU HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING
ELECTIONS FOR MANY YEARS IN
00:21:27OHIO, EVEN GOING BACK TO THE
REAGAN DEMOCRATS.
00:21:30I WONDER IF YOU LOOK AT THESE
RESULTS AND THINK THE
00:21:32INDEPENDENTS, THE FORMER REAGAN
DEMOCRATS, THESE FOLKS THAT YOU
00:21:35CANNOT PREDICT WHAT THEY WILL DO
THAT CROSS PARTY LINES, THEY'RE
00:21:39STILL ALIVE AND WELL.
>> THAT IS TRUE.
00:21:40ON ISSUED TWO, THE UNION ISSUE,
THEY WENT WITH THE UNIONS.
00:21:44ON ISSUE 3, THEY WENT WITH THE
TEA PARTY.
00:21:47EVEN IN A SINGLE ELECTION, YOU
CANNOT TELL WHERE THEY ARE GOING
00:21:50TO BE.
>> LOOKING FORWARD, WE HEARD
00:21:53TALK ABOUT TAKING A STEP BACK,
TAKING A BREATHER, LETTING SOME
00:21:57SETTLE A LITTLE BIT.
WHAT DID YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN?
00:21:59WE ALSO -- WE KNOW THE ISSUE 3
FOLKS ARE NOT STEPPING BACK.
00:22:04BUT WHAT ARE YOU FINDING OUT
FROM THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT WHAT
00:22:08THEIR NECK STEPS WILL BE?
WHAT'S ON UNION ISSUES, ON THE
00:22:12COLLECTIVE BARGAINING KIND OF
CHANGES FOR PUBLIC EMPLOYEES, I
00:22:15THINK THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE A
STEP BACK FOR THE NEXT FEW
00:22:19WEEKS.
BUT COME JANUARY, AND WOULD NOT
00:22:20BE SURPRISED IF THEY DO COME
BACK AND PROPOSED TWO OR THREE
00:22:24OF THE PIECES OF THE ISSUE THAT
WAS DEFEATED, LIKE THAT PROPOSAL
00:22:28TO REQUIRE ALL THE WORKERS TO
PAY -- PUBLIC WORKERS TO PAY AT
00:22:33LEAST 10% OF THEIR PENSIONS, 15%
OF HEALTH-CARE PREMIUMS.
00:22:37VOTERS ACTUALLY LIKED THE PART
OF THE PACKAGE, EVEN THOUGH THEY
00:22:42REJECTED THE WHOLE THING AS A
PACKAGE.
00:22:44I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF
REPUBLICANS CAME BACK ON THAT.
00:22:46THE KEY WILL BECOME A WILL SOME
DEMOCRATS GO ALONG WITH THAT?
00:22:50REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO BE
SOMEONE AND TRY TO PROPOSE
00:22:55SOMETHING WHEN THE DEFEATED SO
BADLY, EVEN THOUGH THEY THINK
00:22:58HAVE A GOOD REASON TO PROPOSE
SOME PARTS OF THAT.
00:23:01>> AND NOT FORGET THOSE
REPUBLICANS, SOME ARE RE-
00:23:04ELECTION NEXT YEAR.
>> ABSOLUTELY, THE ENTIRE HOUSE
00:23:08AND A THIRD OF THE SENATE.
I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THAT IDEA,
00:23:11BEING GUN SHY, AND THIS NEW
RIGHT TO WORK AMENDMENT TO THE
00:23:15HIGH DUTY THAT WILL GO OVER WITH
SOME REPUBLICANS?
00:23:17SENATE PRESIDENT NIEHAUS ALREADY
SAY MAYBE THIS IS NOT THE TIME.
00:23:20>> THIS WILL BE CONTENTIOUS.
THIS IS ANOTHER HUGE FIGHT.
00:23:24SOME REPUBLICANS DO WANT THIS.
SOME REPUBLICANS WANT YES ON
00:23:30FIVE, TOO.
WE'RE GOING TO SEE A HUGE FIGHT
00:23:32FROM THE UNIONS.
WE KNOW THAT.
00:23:34SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING LET'S
COOL IT FOR A WHILE.
00:23:37I OHIOANS HAVE SPOKEN TO OTHER
REPUBLICANS SAY THAT WE WANT
00:23:43THIS.
IT WILL DIVIDE PEOPLE.
00:23:44>> WHETHER THE TWO-PARTY CAN GET
THIS PROPOSAL ON THE 2012 BALLOT
00:23:48IS VERY IFFY.
>> ALL RIGHT, SOME OFF-ELECTION,
00:23:55FOLKS.
>> THANK YOU.
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