Pope Francis called for an "all-out battle" against sexual abuse within the Catholic Church.

The claim came in the Pope's final address at a Vatican summit on sex abuse in late February.

But for some, this battle is too little too late.

Michael Mack, an award-winning poet, turned his sexual abuse to art.

Coming up, how sexual abuse and trauma can become art.

Guests:
Heidi Schlumpf, reporter, National Catholic Reporter
Carol Zamonski, Central Ohio leader, Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests
Michael Mack, award-winning poet, playwright, and performer
Daniel Blausey, New York City-based art therapist, psychotherapist, educator and artist