| 00:00:00 | >> SECRETARY OF STATE AND THE
CHAIRMAN OF THE OHIO BALLOT |
| 00:00:03 | WORD.
-- BOARD. |
| 00:00:10 | IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION FROM
THE BOARD MEMBERS, MY CHIEF |
| 00:00:14 | ELECTIONS COUNCIL BETSY SCHUSTER
WILL SERVE AS SECRETARY OF THE |
| 00:00:18 | BALLOT BOARD FOR THIS MEETING.
A RECORD OF THESE PROCEEDINGS IS |
| 00:00:22 | BEING TRANSCRIBED FROM A COURT
REPORTER FROM ARMSTRONG AND OKEY |
| 00:00:25 | AND THE OHIO CHANNEL IS
STREAMING THIS MEETING LIVE ON |
| 00:00:28 | THEIR WEB SITE, WHERE IT WILL BE
ARCHIVED. |
| 00:00:30 | IF I COULD ASK THE SECRETARY TO
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. |
| 00:00:35 | >> SENATOR FABER, MR. GRIFFIN,
MR. MORGAN, MR. STRAHORN, AND |
| 00:00:43 | SECRETARY TO SAID -- HUSTED?
>> HERE. |
| 00:00:49 | WE HAVE A QUORUM.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT. |
| 00:00:53 | THE PURPOSE WE ARE GATHERED HERE
TODAY IS FOR THE BALLOT BOARD TO |
| 00:00:57 | EXAMINE THE WORK PLACE FREE OF
PROPOSED CONSTITUTIONAL |
| 00:01:01 | AMENDMENT TO DETERMINE WHETHER
IT CONTAINS ONLY ONE PROPOSED |
| 00:01:07 | CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.
IF THE BOARD DETERMINES IT |
| 00:01:09 | CONTAINS MORE THAN ONE
AMENDMENT, THE BOARD MUST ABIDE |
| 00:01:13 | THE PROPOSED CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENT INTO INDIVIDUAL |
| 00:01:15 | AMENDMENTS.
THE PROPOSED CONSTITUTIONAL |
| 00:01:18 | AMENDMENT TEXT AND SUMMARY WERE
PROVIDED TO THE BALLOT BOARD |
| 00:01:21 | MEMBERS IN ADVANCE OF THE
MEETING AND ARE IN THE BALLOT |
| 00:01:25 | BOARD MEMBERS KNOW.
EXTRA COPIES ARE AVAILABLE AT |
| 00:01:28 | THE FRONT TABLE FOR ANYONE WHO
IS INTERESTED. |
| 00:01:29 | AT THIS POINT, ANYONE WISHING TO
ADDRESS THIS BOARD FOR THE |
| 00:01:39 | PURPOSES FOR WHICH WE ARE
ASSEMBLED MAY DO SO. |
| 00:01:42 | I REMIND FOLKS THAT WE ARE NOT
PáE THE MERITS OF THE |
| 00:01:44 | HEREHE
PROPOSED AMENDMENT, JUST TO |
| 00:01:49 | DETERMINE WHETHER IT IS ONE
AMENDMENT OR MORE. |
| 00:01:51 | WE HAVE ONE PERSON.
THAT IS MAURICE THOMPSON. |
| 00:02:03 | MR. THOMPSON, IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE, FORWARD AND PROVIDE IT |
| 00:02:10 | YOUR TESTIMONY TO THE BOARD.
>> THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY, |
| 00:02:17 | MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I AM USED TO THERE BEING SOME |
| 00:02:21 | SIGNIFICANT OPPOSITION TO THE
MEASURES, SO APPEARING THERE IS |
| 00:02:28 | NOT MUCH TODAY I WILL TRY TO
CURTAIL THE REMARKS I HAVE |
| 00:02:31 | PREPARED HERE AND BE A LITTLE
MORE CONCISE, FOCUSING MORE |
| 00:02:36 | STRICTLY ON THE AMENDMENTS AND
THE STANDARD THAT THE BOARD IS |
| 00:02:40 | TO APPLY AND GIVE HELPFUL
EXAMPLES THAT I THINK CAN GUIDE |
| 00:02:45 | THE BOARD'S DECISION MAKING
TODAY. |
| 00:02:46 | AS THE BOARD KNOWS, THE
SEMINOLES OF LAW -- SEMINAL ROLE |
| 00:02:56 | OF LAW WAS SET FORTH BY OHIO
SUPREME COURT, IN CASE I |
| 00:03:02 | LITIGATED THE TO -- ON A BALLOT
MEASURE I ALSO DRAFTED. |
| 00:03:05 | I THINK IMPORTANTLY HERE, THE
TEXT OF THE WORKPLACE FREEDOM |
| 00:03:11 | AMENDMENT IS ESSENTIALLY
IDENTICAL TO THE FRAMEWORK THAT |
| 00:03:13 | WE USE FOR THE OHIO HEALTH CARE
FREEDOM AMENDMENT. |
| 00:03:15 | FOR THE SAME REASONS THE COURT
FOUND THAT THAT AMENDMENT |
| 00:03:19 | CONTAINS ONE SUBJECTS, IT IS
APPROPRIATE TO FIND THIS |
| 00:03:23 | AMENDMENT CONTAINS ONE SUBJECT.
BRIEFLY IDENTIFY THE STANDARD OF |
| 00:03:29 | CONSTRUCTION FOR THIS BOARD.
THE TEST TO APPLY AND THEN APPLY |
| 00:03:33 | THIS TEST TO THE AMENDMENT AT
HAND. |
| 00:03:34 | AGAIN, THE PURPOSE HERE OF39' -
05, 62, BLATANT THIS UNITY, |
| 00:03:48 | SUBJECTS THAT ARE COMPLETELY
UNRELATED IN THE SAME AMENDMENT. |
| 00:03:50 | THE BALLOT BOARD HAS THE DUTY TO
DELIBERATELY CONSTRUE IN FAVOR |
| 00:03:54 | OF THE MOTION THERE IS ONE
SUBJECT. |
| 00:03:56 | IAN OECD BRUNNER, IT STATED THE
BALLOT BOARD HAS CLEARED DUTY |
| 00:04:04 | TO DELIBERATE CONSTRUE BALLOT
INITIATIVE AND AS LONG AS THE |
| 00:04:07 | PROPOSED AMENDMENT BEARS SOME
RELATION -- REASONABLE |
| 00:04:10 | RELATIONSHIP FOR A GENERAL
OBJECT OR PURPOSE, THE BOARD |
| 00:04:13 | MUST CERTIFY ITS APPROVAL OF THE
AMENDMENT AS WRITTEN WITHOUT |
| 00:04:17 | DIVIDING IT INTO MULTIPLE
PETITIONS. |
| 00:04:18 | THE TEST THAT THE COURT MADE
CLEAR IN THE BRUNNER IS IT THE |
| 00:04:28 | PROPOSAL CONSISTS OF ONE
AMENDMENT, SO LONG EACH SUBJECT |
| 00:04:33 | BEARS SOME REASONABLE TO ASSUME
IT TO A SINGLE GENERAL OBJECT OR |
| 00:04:37 | PURPOSE AND BUS "FOR AN
AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION |
| 00:04:41 | RELATES TO A SINGLE PURPOSE OR
OBJECT, ALL ELSE CONTAINS THERE |
| 00:04:45 | IS INCIDENTAL AND REASONABLY
NECESSARY TO AFFECT WEEK THE |
| 00:04:49 | PURPOSE OF THE AMENDMENTS, SUCH
AMENDMENT IS NOT VIOLATIVE OF |
| 00:04:53 | PROVISION OF SECTION 1, ARTICLE
16, OF THE OHIO CONSTITUTION." |
| 00:04:56 | THE SECONDED TEST THAT THE COURT
LAYS FORWARD THAT IS HELPFUL |
| 00:05:03 | HERE IS THAT LIMITATIONS ON THE
SCOPE OF THE AMENDMENT DID NOT |
| 00:05:07 | CREATE A SECOND SUBJECT, NOR DO
EXCEPTIONS CREATE A SECOND |
| 00:05:12 | SUBJECT, NOR DEFINITIONS IN THE
AMENDMENT OF TERMS USED IN THE |
| 00:05:16 | AMENDMENT CREATE A SECOND
SUBJECT. |
| 00:05:17 | AND THEN WE CAN SEE HOW THIS
PLAYS OUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE |
| 00:05:22 | TEXT OF THE WORKPLACE FREEDOM
AMENDMENT. |
| 00:05:25 | SO, IF YOU HAVE THE FULL TEXT IN
FRONT OF YOU, AND WE HAVE |
| 00:05:28 | DIVISION A-G FROM EACH OF WHICH
IS RELATED TO THE TITLE OF THE |
| 00:05:34 | AMENDMENT WHICH IS FREEDOM TO
CHOOSE WHETHER TO PARTICIPATE IN |
| 00:05:37 | A LABOR ORGANIZATION AS A
CONDITION FOR EMPLOYMENT. |
| 00:05:40 | LET'S RUN THROUGH EACH OF THOSE
REALLY QUICKLY AND DEMONSTRATE |
| 00:05:44 | HOW THEY ARE RELATED TO THAT
TITLE. |
| 00:05:46 | SO, AGAIN, THE TEST IN BRUNNER,
WHERE AMENDMENTS -- UNITE SINGLE |
| 00:05:55 | PURPOSE AND ALL THAT IS
CONTAINED IS INCIDENTAL AND |
| 00:05:59 | REASONABLY TO AFFECTION WITH THE
PURPOSE OF SUCH AN AMENDMENT IS |
| 00:06:01 | NOT VIOLATIVE OF THE PROVISIONS.
THE ACCORD MADE IT CLEAR, WHEN |
| 00:06:06 | YOU LOOK AT THE TITLE TO
UNDERSTAND THE GENERAL PURPOSE. |
| 00:06:08 | FREEDOM TO CHOOSE PRINCE'S
BASHAN AND LABOR ORGANIZATION IS |
| 00:06:13 | CRITICAL TO THE BOARD'S INQUIRY.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT EACH OF THE |
| 00:06:18 | DIVISIONS USE SEEING HOW THAT
RELATES TO THAT. |
| 00:06:19 | DIVISION A DINO LAW, RULE,
AGREEMENTS, ARRANGEMENTS SHALL |
| 00:06:25 | REQUIRE, INDIRECTLY OR DIRECTLY,
ANY PERSON OR EMPLOYER TO BECOME |
| 00:06:29 | OR REMAIN A MEMBER OF A LABOR
ORGANIZATION. |
| 00:06:32 | THIS DIVISION SIMPLY RECOGNIZED
THE UNDERSTANDING THAT FORCED |
| 00:06:37 | MEMBERSHIP FORCED TO
ANTICIPATION AS ENVISIONED IN |
| 00:06:41 | THE TITLE OF THE AMENDMENT.
THE SECOND SUBSTANTIVE LIVE -- |
| 00:06:45 | SUBSTANTIVE PROTECTION OF THE
FREEDOM OF JUICE IS A DIVISION |
| 00:06:48 | B, WHICH STATES NO LAW, RULE,
AGREEMENT, ARRANGEMENT, SHALL |
| 00:06:55 | REQUIRE DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY
AS A CONDITION OF EMPLOYMENT AND |
| 00:06:59 | A PERSON OR EMPLOYER TO PAY OR
TRANSFER ANY DUES, FEES AND |
| 00:07:04 | ASSESSMENTS, OTHER CHARGES OF
ANY KIND OR ANYTHING ELSE OF |
| 00:07:07 | VALUE TO A LABOR ORGANIZATION OR
A THIRD-PARTY IN LIEU OF THE |
| 00:07:14 | LABOR ORGANIZATION.
THIS DIVISION SIMPLY RECOGNIZES |
| 00:07:16 | THAT BEING FORCED TO FUND AN
ORGANIZATION IS ALSO BEING |
| 00:07:22 | FORCED TO PRINCE'S UPDATE AND IS
AN ETHICAL TO THE FREEDOM TO |
| 00:07:25 | CHOOSE.
THE NEXT THREE PROVISIONS -- C, |
| 00:07:31 | D, AND E.
THEY SPEAK TO THE SCOPE OF THE |
| 00:07:37 | AMENDMENT.
A 22-SEE, NOTHING IN THIS |
| 00:07:40 | SECTION SHALL PREVENT ANY PERSON
FROM VOLUNTARILY BELONGING TO OR |
| 00:07:44 | VOLUNTARILY PROVIDING SUPPORT TO
A LABOR ORGANIZATION COURT TO |
| 00:07:48 | APPLY IT TO AN AGREEMENT TO
ENTER INTO PRIOR TO ENACTMENT OF |
| 00:07:53 | THIS SECTION.
IN OTHER WORDS, THIS IS A CHECK |
| 00:07:56 | OR LIMITATION ON THE FREEDOM TO
CHOOSE ARTICULATE IN A AND B, |
| 00:08:00 | BASICALLY FINDING THIS DOES NOT
APPLY TO CONTRACTS ALREADY IN |
| 00:08:05 | FACT -- IN FACT WHEN THIS IS
ENACTED AND NOT LIMITING PEOPLE |
| 00:08:09 | FROM VOLUNTARILY CHOOSING TO BE
PART OF A LABOR ORGANIZATION, |
| 00:08:13 | EITHER THROUGH FUNDING OR
MEMBERSHIP PARTICIPATION. |
| 00:08:15 | DIVISION D -- NO OTHER PROVISION
OF THE OHIO CONSTITUTION SHALL |
| 00:08:23 | IMPAIR OR LIMIT THE RIGHTS
CONTAINED HEREIN. |
| 00:08:25 | IT SPEAKS TO THE SCOPE OR EXTENT
OF THE AMENDMENT. |
| 00:08:28 | THIS LANGUAGE IS IDENTICAL TO
ARTICLE TWO, SECTION 34 OF THE |
| 00:08:34 | OHIO CONSTITUTION WHICH WAS
SUBMITTED TO THE VOTERS IN 1912, |
| 00:08:38 | AND THAT RELATES TO THE FIXING
AND REGULATING OF HOURS OF |
| 00:08:42 | LABOR, MINIMUM WAGE, COMFORT AND
SAFETY OF EMPLOYEES. |
| 00:08:46 | THERE IS NO INDEPENDENT MEETING
SEPARATE FROM THE REMAINDER OF |
| 00:08:53 | THE REMAINDER OF THE AMENDMENT
CONTAINED IN THIS DIVISION, |
| 00:08:55 | WHICH IS THE TEST OF WHETHER IT
IS THE SECOND SUBJECT. |
| 00:08:58 | DIVISION E -- THIS SECTION SHALL
BE IMPLEMENTED TO THE MAXIMUM |
| 00:09:03 | EXTENT THE UNITED STATES
CONSTITUTION AND FEDERAL LAW |
| 00:09:07 | PERMITS.
AT ANY INVALID OR AN OFFER TO |
| 00:09:10 | PROVISION SHALL BE FIRST
CONSTRUED AS NOT CONFLICTING |
| 00:09:14 | WITH FEDERAL LAW AND ONLY IF
NECESSARY SEVERED FROM THE MAIN |
| 00:09:17 | PORTIONS OF THE SECTION, WHICH
SHALL REMAIN IN EFFECT. |
| 00:09:19 | AGAIN, THERE IS NO INDEPENDENT
MEANS OF THIS SECTION. |
| 00:09:23 | IT IS SIMPLY A CHECK ON THE
FREEDOM TO CHOOSE ARTICULATE IN |
| 00:09:27 | DIVISIONS A AND B OF THE SECTION
AND SPEAKS TO THE SCOPE AND |
| 00:09:32 | EXTENT.
IT DOES NOT RUN ROUGHSHOD OVER |
| 00:09:35 | FEDERAL LAW.
MAKES IT CLEAR WE DID NOT INTEND |
| 00:09:36 | TO DO THAT.
DIVISION F --ANY PERSON DIRECTLY |
| 00:09:41 | OR INDIRECTLY AFFECTED OR
THREATENED WITH ANY HARM BY |
| 00:09:45 | VIOLATIONS OF THIS SECTION MAY
BRING A CIVIL OR EQUITABLE |
| 00:09:48 | ACTION TO ENFORCE THE SECTION
AND ENTITLED TO A INJUNCTIVE |
| 00:09:53 | RELIEF, REASONABLE ATTORNEY
FEES, COST, AND OTHER DAMAGES. |
| 00:09:56 | THE WORKPLACE PROVISIONS AND
OTHER STATES TYPICALLY HAVE SOME |
| 00:10:02 | PROVISION ON HOW THE WEATHER IS
TO BE ENFORCED. |
| 00:10:04 | THIS IS SIMPLY OUR VERSION OF
THAT. |
| 00:10:06 | AGAIN, THERE IS NO INDEPENDENT
MEANING OR SEPARATE SUBJECT. |
| 00:10:10 | IT SIMPLY SPECIFIES HOW THE
FREEDOM TO CHOOSE THE DIVISION'S |
| 00:10:14 | A AND B ARE TO BE ENFORCED.
SOMETIMES YOU SEE IT DONE THIS |
| 00:10:19 | WAY.
SOMETIMES IN THE AMENDMENTS YOU |
| 00:10:21 | SEE IT DONE THROUGH REQUIRING
CRIMINAL PROSECUTION WHEN THE |
| 00:10:25 | SECTION IS VIOLATED.
THAT IS TYPICAL. |
| 00:10:27 | SECTION G IS MERELY THE
DEFINITIONS. |
| 00:10:31 | BOEHNER MADE IT CLEAR THE
DEFINITION SECTION IS NOT A |
| 00:10:36 | SEPARATE SUBJECT -- BRUNNER MADE
IT CLEAR THE DEFINITION SECTION |
| 00:10:42 | IS NOT A SEPARATE SUBJECT.
IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THEIR |
| 00:10:45 | RECENT PRECEDENTS OR PATTERNS
AND PRACTICES OF THE BOARD, WE |
| 00:10:51 | SEEN NUMEROUS SUBJECTS COME
BEFORE THE BOARD THAT ARE LANG |
| 00:10:54 | FREER THAN THIS ONE.
MEDICAL MARIJUANA INITIATIVE WAS |
| 00:10:59 | SIX PAGES AND DEALT WITH A WILL
HOST OF SUBJECTS RELATED TO THE |
| 00:11:03 | MORE GENERAL PREMISE OF
ALTERNATIVE TREATMENTS, I THINK |
| 00:11:08 | WAS THE TERM.
STATE ISSUE 3, CASINOS. |
| 00:11:10 | THE HEALTHY FAMILIES ACT EVEN
THE GROUND WATER PROTECTION IS |
| 00:11:16 | IN SECTION 19, ARTICLE 1 --
SECTION 19B, THAT IS. |
| 00:11:22 | THEY TOUCH UPON MORE SUBJECT
MATTER THAN THIS AMENDMENT. |
| 00:11:26 | THIS IS REALLY AND THEN GO TO
THE HEALTH CARE FREEDOM |
| 00:11:30 | AMENDMENT IN ITS FRAMEWORK
STRUCTURE AND AND ITS BREADTH, |
| 00:11:35 | FOUND TO BE ONE SUBJECT.
ALSO LIKE OTHER WORKPLACE |
| 00:11:39 | FREEDOM WERE RIGHT TO WORK
AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN |
| 00:11:40 | APPROVED AND OTHER STATES.
THE MOST RECENT AMENDMENT OF |
| 00:11:44 | THIS HAVE TO APPEAR ON THE
BALLOT NATIONWIDE WAS 2008 IN |
| 00:11:48 | COLORADO.
COLORADO HAS A TITLE BOARD WHICH |
| 00:11:50 | IS ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE THIS
BALLOT BOARD IN TERMS OF THE |
| 00:11:54 | FUNCTIONS IT PERFORMS.
GUARDING AGAINST MULTIPLE |
| 00:11:57 | SUBJECTS IS ALSO PART OF THE
DUTY OF THAT BOARD. |
| 00:12:02 | AND THERE THE TITLE BOARD
APPROVED LANGUAGE IS SIMILAR TO |
| 00:12:07 | THIS AS CONTAINING ONE SUBJECT.
IT IS VERY TYPICAL FOR ANY |
| 00:12:12 | MEASURE LIKE THIS -- BOTH FORCED
FUNDING AND FORCED MEMBERSHIP. |
| 00:12:18 | IT IS ALSO TRUE IN OKLAHOMA,
WHERE A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT |
| 00:12:22 | PASSED AND BECAME PART OF THE
CONSTITUTION IN 2001, LOOK A LOT |
| 00:12:26 | LIKE THIS.
PRESERVED THE SAME FREEDOMS TO |
| 00:12:30 | CHOOSE AT THE TOP OF THE
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS AND |
| 00:12:32 | ACTUALLY WENT MUCH FURTHER.
AND LIKEWISE, THEY HAVE A TITLE |
| 00:12:36 | BOARD AND A SINGLE SUBJECT RULE
THAT PROHIBITS MORE THAN ONE |
| 00:12:40 | SUBJECTS BEING CIRCULATED OR
OFFERED TO THE VOTERS. |
| 00:12:42 | FINALLY, IF THERE ARE POLICY
OBJECTIONS, LANGUAGE OBJECTIONS |
| 00:12:49 | FROM OBJECTIONS ABOUT THE
EFFECTS OF THE AMENDMENT, IT IS |
| 00:12:51 | IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THE
AFFECTS OF THE AMENDMENTS ARE |
| 00:12:55 | NOT ACTUALLY BEFORE THE BOARD
AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF |
| 00:12:59 | ALTERNATIVES SAFEGUARDS IN THE
OHIO CONSTITUTION TO GUARD |
| 00:13:01 | AGAINST THOSE TYPES OF CONCERNS,
BUT THEY ARE NOT IN FOR THIS |
| 00:13:05 | BOARD.
ARGUMENTS, EXPLANATIONS, THE |
| 00:13:11 | REQUIREMENTS OF A CLEAR TITLE
AND CLEAR LANGUAGE FOR THE |
| 00:13:15 | BALLOT ARE NOW -- ALL IN THE
OHIO CONSTITUTION AND OUR WAYS |
| 00:13:19 | OF SAFEGUARDING AGAINST OTHER
ISSUES THAT MAY BE OF CONCERN OF |
| 00:13:22 | THE BOARD THAT ARE NOT BEFORE IT
TODAY. |
| 00:13:25 | THAT SAID, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY |
| 00:13:28 | HAVE ON THE AMENDMENT.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. |
| 00:13:32 | THOMPSON?
>> MR. THOMPSON, THANK YOU FOR |
| 00:13:35 | COMING DOWN.
OUR TASK IS TO DETERMINE, OF |
| 00:13:37 | COURSE, WHETHER IT IS MORE THAN
ONE SUBJECT. |
| 00:13:40 | CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE OHIO |
| 00:13:43 | REVISED CODE WITH THIS PROPOSED
AMENDMENT AFFECTS? |
| 00:13:46 | >> I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT, NO.
GRIFFIN. |
| 00:13:50 | -- MEMBER GRIFFIN.
HOW MANY DO THEY AFFECT -- MR. |
| 00:14:00 | SECRETARY, MEMBER GRIFFIN, ME
BACKTRACK AND REMIND YOU THE |
| 00:14:06 | OHIO SUPREME COURT EXPLICITLY
STATED IN LIBERTY COUNSEL V. |
| 00:14:11 | BRUNNER, THE AFFECTS OF THE
AMENDMENT ARE NOT PART OF THE |
| 00:14:16 | BOARD THAT A CONSIDERATION IN
DETERMINING WHETHER IT APPLIES |
| 00:14:18 | TO 3505 062A.
I DO NOT THINK IT WOULD AFFECT |
| 00:14:25 | ANY OF THE REVISED CODE IN
RELATIONSHIP TO PRIVATE UNIONS. |
| 00:14:29 | REGARDING 4117 REGARDING PUBLIC
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, THIS DOES |
| 00:14:36 | NOT AFFECT ANY OF THOSE SECTIONS
PER SE INSOFAR YOU WOULD WRITE |
| 00:14:42 | IN EXCEPTIONS BUT IT WOULD BE A
BACKGROUND PRINCIPLE TO |
| 00:14:46 | DETERMINE HOW THE SECTIONS ARE
CONSTRUED, AND IN SOME CASES, |
| 00:14:49 | THE EXPENSE TO WHAT TO REQUIRE
FORCED PARTICIPATION, THERE |
| 00:14:54 | WOULD BE AN EFFECT ON THOSE
PROVISIONS. |
| 00:14:56 | THOSE PROVISIONS DO AFFECT THE
EXCLUSIVE BARGAINING UNITS. |
| 00:15:01 | AND THIS DOES NOTHING TO AFFECT
THE EXCLUSIVE BARGAINING UNIT |
| 00:15:05 | PROVISION, WHICH IS WHERE YOU
FIND PRIMARILY IN 4117. |
| 00:15:10 | >> I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT --
THIS IS A SINGLE TOPIC ON |
| 00:15:14 | COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RIGHTS.
IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? |
| 00:15:16 | >> MR. SECRETARY, NUMBER
GRIFFIN, NO. |
| 00:15:24 | I WOULD NOT AT ALL CHARACTERIZE
IT AS THAT. |
| 00:15:29 | I WOULD CHARACTERIZE THIS AS A
SET OF TWO INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS -- |
| 00:15:33 | A FREEDOM TO CHOOSE WHETHER TO
BECOME A MEMBER OF A LABOR UNION |
| 00:15:37 | AND A FREEDOM TO CHOOSE WHETHER
YOU ARE FORCED TO FUND A LABOR |
| 00:15:40 | UNION OR NOT.
I DO NOT THINK IT SPEAKS TO |
| 00:15:43 | COLLECTIVE RIGHTS AT ALL WITH AN
BARGAINING CONTEXT OR OTHERWISE. |
| 00:15:46 | >> MR. GRIFFIN?
>> FOR A MOMENT I THOUGHT YOU |
| 00:15:51 | MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I
WAS TELLING YET I WAS REFERRING |
| 00:15:54 | TO A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
RIGHTS OTHER THAN A CONCEPT OF |
| 00:15:58 | COLLECTIVE RIGHTS.
DOES IT CHANGE YOUR RESPONSE AT |
| 00:16:00 | ALL?
>> MEMBER GRIFFIN, I BELIEVE |
| 00:16:03 | THERE IS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RIGHTS AND |
| 00:16:06 | COLLECTIVE RIGHTS.
>> YOUR ANSWER WOULD BE THE |
| 00:16:08 | SAME?
IT IS YOUR VIEW THAT THIS IS A |
| 00:16:11 | SINGLE ISSUE THAT WOULD ALTER
ANY OBLIGATION TO JOIN A UNION |
| 00:16:18 | AND A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE CONTEXT?
IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT? |
| 00:16:22 | >> MEMBER GRIFFIN, THAT IS A
FAIR ASSESSMENT. |
| 00:16:26 | >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR.
THOMPSON? |
| 00:16:31 | THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
>> THANK YOU. |
| 00:16:33 | >> ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO
ADDRESS THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? |
| 00:16:37 | HEARING NONE, I WOULD LIKE TO
ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND CALL ON |
| 00:16:41 | SENATOR FABER.
>> THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY. |
| 00:16:44 | I KNOW WE CERTIFIED THE
WORKPLACE FREEDOM PROPOSED |
| 00:16:48 | CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT AS
CONTAINING ONLY ONE |
| 00:16:51 | CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A |
| 00:16:54 | SECOND.
DISCUSSION? |
| 00:16:55 | MR. GRIFFIN?
>> MR. SECRETARY, WE ARE HERE |
| 00:16:59 | ONLY TO DECIDE WHETHER IT
AFFECTS ONE TOPIC. |
| 00:17:01 | AND ALTHOUGH I THINK IT IS
DEEPLY FLAWED POLICY, I DO THINK |
| 00:17:06 | THAT IT AFFECTS A SINGLE TOPIC,
A TOPIC THAT IS AN ATTACK ON |
| 00:17:11 | ORGANIZED LABOR, BUT I THINK IT
FALLS WITHIN OUR GAMBIT BO.MER |
| 00:17:18 | >> THANK YOU, MR. GRIFFIN.
SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL |
| 00:17:23 | VOTE?
>> SENATOR FABER? |
| 00:17:24 | >> YES.
>> MR. LOUTHAN? |
| 00:17:26 | >> IT IS.
>> MR. MORGENROTH? |
| 00:17:28 | >> SECRETARY BRUCE?
>> BY 4-0, THE MOTION CARRIES. |
| 00:17:33 | IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO
BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMITTEE? |
| 00:17:38 | HEARING NONE, WE STAND
ADJOURNED. |
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