| 00:00:01 | >> THE SENATE WILL COME TO
ORDER. |
| 00:00:11 | BEFORE WE START WITH OUR PRAYER
AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I'D |
| 00:00:15 | LIKE TO RECOGNIZE A FORMER
SENATE MEMBER WHO IS HERE ON THE |
| 00:00:18 | FLOOR WITH US.
FORMER SENATOR JOHN KASICH. |
| 00:00:20 | GOVERNOR, WE'VE GOT I GUESS
PASTOR WHO IS GOING TO LEAD US |
| 00:00:36 | IN PRAYER BUT AFTER WORDS COULD
I OPPOSE UPON YOU TO COME UP AND |
| 00:00:42 | SAY A FEW WORDS AS WE ENTER THE
HOLIDAY SEASON OF PRAYER AND |
| 00:00:46 | THANKSGIVING.
PASTOR. |
| 00:00:51 | >> LET'S PRAY TOGETHER.
GOD, WE ARE GRATEFUL TO BE HERE |
| 00:00:57 | IN THE GREAT STATE OF OHIO I'M
SO GRATEFUL TO BE HERE WITH |
| 00:01:01 | THESE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE
CHART OF THE COURSE TO LEAVE |
| 00:01:04 | THIS GREAT STATE.
WE ARE GRATEFUL WE ARE IN THESE |
| 00:01:06 | THANKSGIVING AND HOLIDAY
SEASONS. |
| 00:01:09 | GOD MAY THERE BE AN INCREDIBLE
AMOUNT OF GRACE GIVEN TO ALL. |
| 00:01:14 | WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS A BUSY
TIME OF YEAR AND THESE MEN AND |
| 00:01:17 | WOMEN CARRY A GREAT DEAL OF
RESPONSIBILITY IN THE LOCAL |
| 00:01:20 | TOWNS, AND ACROSS THE GREAT
ESTATE IN THIS COUNTRY. |
| 00:01:24 | PRAY GOD THAT YOU WOULD GIVE
THEM WISDOM, GIVE THEM INSIDE, |
| 00:01:27 | GIVE THEM ENDURANCE, GIVE THEM
COURAGE THEY WOULD BOLDLY LEAD |
| 00:01:31 | THE GREAT PEOPLE OF OHIO WOULD
HUMBLY FOLLOW. |
| 00:01:35 | WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR HER
LEADERSHIP, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR |
| 00:01:39 | YOUR LOVE AND YOUR LAVISH GRACE.
WE DO PRAY. |
| 00:01:44 | AMEN.
>> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE |
| 00:01:52 | FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR |
| 00:02:03 | WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION
UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH |
| 00:02:12 | LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. |
| 00:02:20 | I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS JUST
POPPED IN MY HEAD BUT I FIRST |
| 00:02:25 | CAME INTO THIS CHAMBER IN 1975.
AS AN AID, I REMEMBER SITTING IN |
| 00:02:34 | THE BACK AND I HAD ALL THE
SENATORS AT THAT TIME THERE WERE |
| 00:02:39 | NO AIDS.
IT WAS BOB BLAIR WHO NOW RUNS |
| 00:02:42 | DAS, MYSELF AND BETTY SQUIGLIA
WHO IS A LAWYER, FOR BRICKER AND |
| 00:02:48 | ECKLER AND WE WERE THE ONLY AIDS
FOR THE SENATE. |
| 00:02:51 | IT WAS A REMARKABLE TIME.
AND THEN I DECIDED I WAS GOING |
| 00:02:56 | TO RUN FOR THE JOB AND I
REMEMBER TELLING BOB BLAIR THAT |
| 00:02:59 | I WAS GOING TO RUN FOR THE STATE
SENATE AND WE WERE OVER AT |
| 00:03:02 | MCDONALD'S, IT USED TO BE ON
BROAD STREET. |
| 00:03:07 | I SAID BOB I THINK I'M GOING TO
RUN FOR THE STATE SENATE. |
| 00:03:09 | HE WAS DRINKING A COCA-COLA AND
HE DROPPED IT ON THE FLOOR AND |
| 00:03:12 | HE SAID WHAT ARE YOU TALKING
ABOUT? |
| 00:03:16 | THIS IS AN INTERESTING STORY.
I WAS COMING OVER HERE KEITH TO |
| 00:03:20 | DO A FILMING FOR MY CAMPAIGN AND
I SAW MY BUDDY KEITH BROOKS |
| 00:03:25 | YESTERDAY WE WERE ANNOUNCING OUR
AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE ACTIVITIES. |
| 00:03:30 | AND THEY WON'T LET ME FILM ON
THE FLOOR. |
| 00:03:35 | I WAS TOTALLY UNKNOWN I HAD NO
CHANCE OF WINNING AND THEY TRIED |
| 00:03:38 | TO STOP ME AND I END UP GOING TO
COURT AND GOT ALL THIS PUBLICITY |
| 00:03:42 | GOT ELECTED.
HERE'S THE THING THAT I REMEMBER |
| 00:03:45 | FOR SOME REASON WALKING APPEAR.
I REMEMBER STANDING RIGHT HERE |
| 00:03:50 | AFTER BEING SWORN IN STANDING
THERE WITH MY MOTHER AND MY |
| 00:03:53 | FATHER.
AND MY SISTER. |
| 00:03:55 | AND I REMEMBER BEING RIGHT THERE
AND I REMEMBER HOW PHENOMENAL IT |
| 00:04:02 | WAS TO BE A MEMBER OF THE OHIO
SENATE. |
| 00:04:06 | HOW GREAT IT WAS.
MY FIRST TWO YEARS SINCE I HAD |
| 00:04:10 | BEATEN, I WAS IN SIBERIA FOR TWO
YEARS. |
| 00:04:17 | AND THEN WE WON THE MAJORITY, I
BECAME CHAIRMAN OF THE HEALTH |
| 00:04:22 | COMMITTEE AND THAT WAS ONE VERN
RIFFE, MY GREAT FRIEND AND, ONE |
| 00:04:26 | OF THE GREATEST SPEAKERS WE'VE
EVER HAD OVERSAW THE HOUSE AND |
| 00:04:30 | THAT'S WHEN I HAD TO LEARN TO
WORK WITH DEMOCRATS, IT HAD TO |
| 00:04:35 | BE THAT WAY BECAUSE WE COULDN'T
GET ANYTHING DONE. |
| 00:04:38 | IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE HERE
IN THE SENATE AND I ALSO |
| 00:04:41 | REMEMBER WHEN MY REPUBLICAN
COLLEAGUES WANTED TO RAISE TAXES |
| 00:04:45 | AND I TOLD HIM I WASN'T GOING TO
VOTE FOR IT AND THEY CALLED ME A |
| 00:04:49 | RESPONSIBLE AND I WROTE MY FIRST
BUDGET. |
| 00:04:52 | I DON'T THINK IT GOT ANY VOTES
BUT IT MADE ME FEEL GOOD. |
| 00:04:54 | BUT IT TAUGHT ME ABOUT THE KEYS
TO THE KINGDOM WHICH IS THE |
| 00:04:57 | BUDGET.
AND BY THE WAY, LOU I WISH YOU |
| 00:04:59 | THE BEST.
HOW ABOUT A ROUND OF APPLAUSE |
| 00:05:02 | FOR LOU GENTILE.
AS A MEMBER OF THIS BODY. |
| 00:05:08 | SORT OF ALONG THE LINES OF THE
PRAYER THAT WAS SAID EARLIER, I |
| 00:05:16 | SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN MY LIFE
NOW. |
| 00:05:20 | ALWAYS TRYING TO DETERMINE MY
PURPOSE. |
| 00:05:26 | I CAN TELL YOU WHAT MY PURPOSES,
WHAT MAKE AN EFFORT TO DO. |
| 00:05:32 | MY PURPOSES TO SERVE THE LORD.
MY PURPOSE IS TO TRY TO LIVE A |
| 00:05:38 | LIFE A LITTLE BIGGER THAN
MYSELF. |
| 00:05:41 | I FAILED ALL THE TIME.
BUT I THINK I'M MAKING SOME |
| 00:05:48 | PROGRESS.
AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO LIVE A |
| 00:05:52 | LIFE A LITTLE BIGGER THAN
YOURSELF. |
| 00:05:54 | IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO CLIMB
MOUNT EVEREST OR SCALE GRANT |
| 00:05:58 | PEAKS OR TURNED WATER INTO WINE.
MAYBE IT'S ABOUT HUMBLING |
| 00:06:04 | YOURSELF SOMETIMES IT'S THE
LITTLE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO TO |
| 00:06:09 | GIVE PEOPLE A LIFT.
AND IN THIS BUSINESS, I WILL |
| 00:06:15 | ALWAYS TRY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT
IS IT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO. |
| 00:06:21 | I DON'T TRY TO THINK ABOUT THE
POLITICS OF THIS OR THAT I DON'T |
| 00:06:26 | CARE WHO'S YELLING OR SCREAMING
OR CLAPPING. |
| 00:06:29 | BECAUSE I THINK THE CHEERS OF
MEN AND WOMEN ARE THINGS THAT |
| 00:06:34 | PULL YOU DOWN, DON'T LIFT YOU
UP. |
| 00:06:37 | MY FOCUS EVEN THIS MORNING, I
READ A GREAT BIBLE COMMENTARY BY |
| 00:06:42 | A MAN WHO'S BEEN DEAD FOR 150
YEARS AND I LIKE TO READ THE BAD |
| 00:06:47 | ONES BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S NO
STORY TO COME. |
| 00:06:50 | BY THE NAME OF MATTHEW HENRY.
WHERE ARE YOUR EYES FOCUSED? |
| 00:06:56 | SOME PEOPLE DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO
THIS, THEY ARE HUMANIST AND GOD |
| 00:06:59 | BLESS THEM.
THEY WANT TO FIX THE LIFE FOR |
| 00:07:01 | EVERYBODY BUT AS A BELIEVER, AND
THE CREATOR IN THE ALMIGHTY, MY |
| 00:07:08 | DEDICATION, MY EYES MUST BE ON
HIM. |
| 00:07:13 | AGAIN, I'M THE FIRST ONE TO TELL
YOU I'M A SCRIBBLE. |
| 00:07:17 | THAT I AM NOT SUCCESSFUL IN THIS
ENOUGH OF THE TIME. |
| 00:07:24 | BUT I'M WORKING ON IT.
AND IN OUR JOBS, WE HAVE AN |
| 00:07:27 | ABILITY TO HELP LIFT PEOPLE.
THE CHILDREN IN SCHOOL, THE |
| 00:07:33 | UNEMPLOYED, THE DRUG ADDICTED,
AND TO HELP ENTREPRENEURSHIP |
| 00:07:38 | WORK IN THE STATE BECAUSE PEOPLE
NEED WORK. |
| 00:07:42 | RIGHT KEITH THEY NEED WORK.
SOMEBODY SAID, I WOULD RATHER |
| 00:07:44 | LIVE IN A COMMUNITY OF POVERTY
THAN LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE |
| 00:07:48 | THERE ARE NO JOBS.
BECAUSE JOBS ARE LARGE PART OF |
| 00:07:54 | WHAT MAKES US WHO WE ARE.
GOOD WORK, BUT I ALSO TELL YOU |
| 00:07:59 | THAT WHAT I WORRY ABOUT IN OUR
COUNTRY, IS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN |
| 00:08:05 | OUR FAMILIES AND IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN OUR |
| 00:08:07 | COMMUNITIES.
ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT |
| 00:08:11 | AS CONNECTED AS WE OUGHT TO BE.
WE DON'T LISTEN TO ONE ANOTHER |
| 00:08:14 | ENOUGH THAT WE DON'T FOLLOW THAT
SECOND GREAT COMMANDMENT. |
| 00:08:19 | LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOU LOVE
YOURSELF. |
| 00:08:21 | OR ANOTHER WAY TO SAY IT IS AN
ABLE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOU WOULD |
| 00:08:25 | WANT YOUR NEIGHBOR TO ENABLE
YOU. |
| 00:08:29 | SO, WE OUGHT TO THINK ABOUT THE
FACT THAT SOMETIMES WE ARE |
| 00:08:31 | TOP-DOWN, THE STRENGTH OF OUR
COUNTRY IS BOTTOM UP. |
| 00:08:35 | AND WE CAN PLAY A VERY BIG ROLE
IN HELPING PEOPLE TO BUILD THEIR |
| 00:08:40 | COMMUNITIES, TO BUILD THEIR
FAMILIES, WE CAN BE A PART OF IT |
| 00:08:44 | BY THE KIND OF LEADERSHIP THAT
WE BRING. |
| 00:08:47 | FOR THE PARTISANSHIP, IT'S OKAY
TO HAVE A DEBATE THAT WE MUST |
| 00:08:52 | LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, |
| 00:08:55 | WHEN WE LOVE ONE ANOTHER, WE GO
UP, NOT DOWN. |
| 00:08:59 | UP NOT DOWN.
EGO, KICK IT TO THE SIDE AS |
| 00:09:02 | OFTEN AS OFTEN AS WE POSSIBLY
CAN. |
| 00:09:05 | AND WHEN WE DO THAT, THE BOARD
SMILES. |
| 00:09:08 | I WANT TO WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY
HOLIDAY, AND A VERY MERRY |
| 00:09:11 | CHRISTMAS.
AND THIS IS A GREAT HONOR TO BE |
| 00:09:14 | HERE WITH ALL THIS MORNING.
I WILL SEE YOU ON CAMPUS. |
| 00:09:18 | GOD BLESS.
>> FORMER STATE SEN., JOHN |
| 00:09:44 | KASICH.
THE CLERK WILL READ THE JOURNAL |
| 00:09:46 | OF THE PREVIOUS DAY.
>> [CLERK READS JOURNAL OF |
| 00:09:57 | PREVIOUS DAY].
>> THE QUESTION IS, SHALL THE |
| 00:10:06 | JOURNAL BE AGREED TO, WITHOUT
OBJECTION THE JOURNAL IS AGREED |
| 00:10:09 | TO.
POINTS OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. |
| 00:10:12 | THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR
HITE. |
| 00:10:16 | >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT AND
MEMBERS I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE |
| 00:10:20 | FOR FRIENDS THAT COME FROM THE
BLANCHARD RIVER WATERSHED. |
| 00:10:23 | WE HAVE JUDY OBRINGER, JANE
MCCLARTY, DICK POLANSKI, AND TIM |
| 00:10:26 | BERGMAN.
THEY ARE SITTING RIGHT THERE IF |
| 00:10:28 | YOU WOULD STAND AND BE
RECOGNIZED FOR THE SENATE AND |
| 00:10:30 | THANK YOU FOR VISITING TODAY.
>> THANK YOU AND WELCOME TO THE |
| 00:10:34 | SENATE.
CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR |
| 00:10:36 | HACKETT.
>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT I |
| 00:10:39 | WANT TO RECOGNIZE A GOOD BUDDY
OF MINE, FORMER MAYOR OF |
| 00:10:42 | JAMESTOWN DISTRICT, MARK FARRELL
AND HIS DAUGHTER CORA. |
| 00:10:45 | THANK YOU.
>> WELCOME TO THE SENATE MR. |
| 00:10:52 | MAYOR.
REPORTS OF REFERENCE AND BILLS |
| 00:10:55 | FOR SECOND CONSIDERATION.
>> [CLERK READS REFERENCE AND |
| 00:10:57 | BILLS FOR SECOND CONSIDERATION].
>> THE QUESTION IS, SHALL THE |
| 00:11:00 | REPORT BE AGREED TO, WITHOUT
OBJECTION, HEARING NO OBJECTION |
| 00:11:02 | THE REPORT IS AGREED TO.
REPORTS OF STANDING AND SELECT |
| 00:11:04 | COMMITTEES, SENATOR BACON WITH
TWO REPORTS. |
| 00:11:06 | >> [CLERK READS REPORTS].
>> SENATOR HITE WITH TWO |
| 00:11:08 | REPORTS.
>> [CLERK READS REPORTS). |
| 00:11:10 | >> THE QUESTION IS, SHALL THE
REPORTS BE AGREED TO, WITHOUT |
| 00:11:12 | OBJECTION, HEARING NO OBJECTION
THE REPORTS ARE AGREED TO. |
| 00:11:14 | SENATOR FABER WITH AN ADVICE AND
CONSENT REPORT ON ATTORNEY |
| 00:11:17 | GENERAL'S APPOINTMENT.
>> [CLERK READS REPORTS]. |
| 00:11:19 | >> THE QUESTION IS, SHALL THE
SENATE ADVISE AND CONSENT IN THE |
| 00:11:22 | APPOINTMENTS OF THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL, THE CLERK WILL CALL THE |
| 00:11:25 | ROLL PLEASE.
>> [CLERK CALLS ROLL). |
| 00:11:27 | >> 27 YAYS, ZERO NAYS THE SENATE
DOES ADVISE AND CONSENT TO THE |
| 00:11:36 | ATTORNEY GENERAL'S APPOINTMENTS.
REPORTS OF STANDING AND SELECT |
| 00:11:46 | COMMITTEES SENATOR FABER WITH AN
ADVICE AND CONSENT REPORT ON THE |
| 00:11:53 | GOVERNOR'S APPOINTMENTS.
>> [CLERK READS REPORTS]. |
| 00:12:05 | >> THE QUESTION IS SHALL THE
SENATE ADVISE AND CONSENT IN THE |
| 00:12:10 | APPOINTMENTS OF THE GOVERNOR?
THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. |
| 00:12:12 | >> [CLERK CALLS ROLL].
>> 27 YAYS, ZERO NAYS THE SENATE |
| 00:13:18 | DOES ADVISE AND CONSENT OF THE
APPOINTMENTS OF THE GOVERNOR ON |
| 00:13:27 | THE LIST.
BILLS FOR THIRD CONSIDERATION. |
| 00:13:37 | >> [CLERK READS THE BILLS FOR
THIRD CONSIDERATION]. |
| 00:13:43 | >> THE QUESTION IS, SHALL THE
BILL PASS? |
| 00:13:45 | THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR
EKLUND. |
| 00:15:12 | >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT AND
MEMBERS OF THE SENATE IN MANY |
| 00:15:15 | COMMUNITIES AROUND THE STATE OF
OHIO I'M SURE AS YOU KNOW |
| 00:15:18 | ABANDON, MAKE INSTRUCTORS BEGUN
TO AND CONTINUE TO PROLIFERATE |
| 00:15:24 | AND BLAKE NEIGHBORHOODS AND
DAMAGE PROPERTY VALUES. |
| 00:15:29 | THEY HAVE ALSO BECOME ALLURING
LOCATIONS FOR AN ARRAY OF |
| 00:15:34 | CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES ONE OF WHICH
IS ARSON. |
| 00:15:39 | WHEN THESE ABANDONED STRUCTURES
ARE TORCHED, AND SOMEONE IS |
| 00:15:44 | APPREHENDED.
UNDER CURRENT LAW, THE |
| 00:15:47 | PROSECUTOR MUST PROVE AS PART OF
ITS CASE THAT THE OWNER OF THE |
| 00:15:52 | STRUCTURE DID NOT CONSENT TO THE
TORCHING OF THE BUILDING. |
| 00:15:57 | THAT OF COURSE IS AN
EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT THING |
| 00:16:00 | TO DO WHEN THE BUILDING HAS BEEN
ABANDON AND IS NOT OCCUPIED. |
| 00:16:04 | BECAUSE THE OWNER IS NOWHERE TO
BE FOUND. |
| 00:16:06 | SO, THE PROSECUTION, EVEN THOUGH
THEY MIGHT HAVE A GOOD CASE TO |
| 00:16:09 | PROVE ARSON AGAINST A
PERPETRATOR, IS HANDCUFFED AND |
| 00:16:14 | UNABLE TO PROVE THE EVIDENCE
NECESSARY TO CONVICT. |
| 00:16:18 | THIS BILL CORRECTS THAT BY
REMOVING THAT REQUIREMENT THAT |
| 00:16:25 | THE PROSECUTION PROVE THE OWNER
DID NOT CONSENT IN CASES WHERE |
| 00:16:30 | THE STRUCTURE WAS NOT AN
OCCUPIED STRUCTURE AS OTHERWISE |
| 00:16:35 | DEFINED IN THE REVISED CODE.
BUT INSTEAD IN THE CASE OF AN |
| 00:16:39 | UNOCCUPIED STRUCTURE AS DEFINED,
THE DEFENDANT WOULD STILL HAVE |
| 00:16:46 | AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE IN OTHER
WORDS IF THE BUILDING WAS |
| 00:16:50 | ABANDONED UNOCCUPIED,
PROSECUTION PROVE ALL THE |
| 00:16:53 | ELEMENTS OF A CRIME IF THE
DEFENDANT CAN PROVE |
| 00:16:58 | AFFIRMATIVELY THAT THE OWNER
CONSENTED TO THE BURNING THEN |
| 00:17:02 | THE CONVICTION WOULD NOT LIVE.
IT'S A FLIPPING OF THE BURDEN OF |
| 00:17:06 | PROOF ON THE QUESTION ON WHETHER
THE OWNER OF A VACANT UNOCCUPIED |
| 00:17:10 | BUILDING CONSENTED IN STRICTLY
AN ARSON CASE. |
| 00:17:15 | SINCE WE HOPE, THAT THIS BILL
WOULD ENHANCE THE ABILITY OF |
| 00:17:20 | PROSECUTORS TO GET CONVICTIONS
FOR ARSON, AND THEREBY SEND MORE |
| 00:17:24 | PEOPLE TO PRISON, THE COMMITTEE
BELIEVES IT WAS A RATHER |
| 00:17:28 | OPPORTUNE PLACE TO INSERT
ANOTHER PROVISION THAT WOULD |
| 00:17:31 | AUTHORIZE THE DEPARTMENT OF
REHABILITATION AND CORRECTIONS |
| 00:17:34 | TO CONTRACT WITH THE OWNERS AND
MANAGERS OF PRIVATE PRISON |
| 00:17:38 | FACILITIES TO TRANSFER OHIO
PRISONERS TO THOSE PRIVATE |
| 00:17:44 | FACILITIES.
WE HAVE THIS ARISE IN A |
| 00:17:47 | SITUATION THAT EXISTS NOW IN
MAHONING VALLEY WHERE IT PRISONS |
| 00:17:51 | THEY ARE PRIVATELY OWNED AND
OPERATED PRISON, LOST A FEDERAL |
| 00:17:55 | CONTRACT, THEY WERE HOUSING
FEDERAL PRISONERS THERE. |
| 00:17:57 | LOST THE FEDERAL CONTRACT TO AN
OUTFIT IN PENNSYLVANIA AND NOW |
| 00:18:00 | HAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1000 AND
1500 BEDS VACANT GOING ON USE. |
| 00:18:05 | AND IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO
REDUCE OR WORK TOWARDS REDUCING |
| 00:18:11 | THE DENSITY OF THE POPULATION IN
OUR PRESENCE IF THE DRC COULD |
| 00:18:15 | MOVE SOME PRISONERS OUT OF DRC
FACILITIES INTO THOSE VACANT |
| 00:18:19 | BEDS.
WE HAVE INSERTED A PROVISION OF |
| 00:18:23 | THIS BILL INTO THIS BILL THAT
WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT. |
| 00:18:27 | IT IS A GOOD BILL FROM A
CRIMINAL JUSTICE STANDPOINT TO |
| 00:18:30 | HELP THE PROSECUTORS AND TO
ENHANCE THEIR ABILITY TO |
| 00:18:33 | PROSECUTE THESE ARSONIST, AND IS
ALSO GOOD BILL FROM A STANDPOINT |
| 00:18:37 | OF PRISON SAFETY, THE SAFETY OF
NOT ONLY PRISONERS BUT ALSO THE |
| 00:18:41 | PERSONNEL WHO WORK IN OUR
PRISONS AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT |
| 00:18:44 | FOR THE BILL.
>> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE |
| 00:18:50 | BILL PASS?
THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR |
| 00:18:54 | THOMAS FOR AN AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT I |
| 00:19:02 | MOVED TO AMEND.
>> THE AMENDMENT IS A.M. |
| 00:19:07 | 3187.
AM I CORRECT SENATOR THOMAS? |
| 00:19:10 | >> THAT'S CORRECT.
THANK YOU. |
| 00:19:12 | I MOVED TO AMEND A.M.
3187. |
| 00:19:17 | >> THE AMENDMENT IS IN ORDER
PLEASE DESCRIBE THE AMENDMENT |
| 00:19:22 | BRIEFLY.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF |
| 00:19:26 | THE SENATE THIS AMENDMENT
DELETES A PROVISION THAT WAS |
| 00:19:32 | ADDED REGARDING PLACEMENT OF DRC
INMATES IN PRIVATE FACILITY THAT |
| 00:19:38 | ALLOWS THE DIRECTOR OF DRC TO
WAIVE THE 5% COST SAVINGS |
| 00:19:41 | REQUIREMENT FOR PRIVATE
FACILITIES IF THE DIRECTOR |
| 00:19:44 | DETERMINES PLACING OF DRC
INMATES IN A PRIVATE FACILITY |
| 00:19:47 | WOULD HAVE A POSITIVE EFFECT ON
REDUCING INMATE POPULATION |
| 00:19:51 | DENSITY.
THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS WITH |
| 00:19:54 | SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS INCLUDING
THE DRC AND HE FINDS NO REASON |
| 00:20:00 | TO OBJECT TO THIS AMENDMENT.
>> IS THERE A SECOND TO THE |
| 00:20:06 | AMENDMENT?
CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR EKLUND, |
| 00:20:09 | WITHOUT OBJECTION, OBJECTION ON
THE AMENDMENT. |
| 00:20:14 | THE QUESTION IS, SHALL THE
AMENDMENT BECOME PART OF THE |
| 00:20:16 | BILL?
THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. |
| 00:20:19 | >> [CLERK CALLS ROLL].
>> 2048, THREE NAYS THE |
| 00:21:46 | AMENDMENT DOES BECOME PART OF
THE BILL. |
| 00:21:49 | THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE BILL
PASS? |
| 00:21:51 | THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR
SKINDELL. |
| 00:21:56 | >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT
PERMISSION TO SPEAK TO THE BILL. |
| 00:21:59 | >> PLEASE PROCEED.
>> THANK YOU LADIES AND |
| 00:22:01 | GENTLEMEN OF THE SENATE I RISE
TO DISCUSS MY VOTE ON SUBSTITUTE |
| 00:22:05 | HOUSE BILL NUMBER 185.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE ARSON |
| 00:22:10 | PROVISIONS IN THIS I WILL BE
VOTING AGAINST THIS BILL THE |
| 00:22:13 | HOWEVER, BECAUSE I HAVE A
CONCERN THAT THE LANGUAGE THAT |
| 00:22:16 | REMAINS IN THIS BILL WILL LEAD
TO AN INCREASE OF PRISONERS AND |
| 00:22:20 | PRIVATE PRISONS.
NUMBER TWO, I ALSO HAVE A |
| 00:22:23 | CONCERN OF THE SINGLE SUBJECT
RULE. |
| 00:22:26 | OUR CONSTITUTIONAL
RESPONSIBILITY IS TO MAKE SURE |
| 00:22:28 | BILLS ARE PASSED AND A SINGLE
SUBJECT. |
| 00:22:30 | HERE WE ARE DEALING WITH ARSON
AND NOW WE'RE ADDING SOMETHING |
| 00:22:33 | IN PRISON.
YOU CAN SAY IT'S ALL CRIMINALLY |
| 00:22:35 | RELATED, HOWEVER I THINK IT
RISES SOME QUESTIONS WITHIN |
| 00:22:39 | SINGLE SUBJECT.
AND FINALLY, THE THING THAT I |
| 00:22:43 | MOST CONCERNED ABOUT IN THIS
BILL IS A LITTLE TALK TO A |
| 00:22:46 | PROVISION THAT WILL ALLOW
OUT-OF-STATE PRISONERS TO COME |
| 00:22:51 | TO OHIO AND BE HOUSE IN OHIO.
I THINK WE HAVE REACHED CAPACITY |
| 00:22:55 | AND OUR PRISONS ARE READY, WE
SHOULD NOT BE OPENING THE DOORS |
| 00:22:58 | PARTICULARLY IN PRIVATE PRISONS
TO ACCEPT OUT-OF-STATE |
| 00:23:02 | PRISONERS.
FOR THOSE REASONS, I WILL BE |
| 00:23:05 | VOTING AGAINST THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. |
| 00:23:10 | >> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE
BILL PASS? |
| 00:23:12 | SENATOR EKLUND I HAVE YOUR LIGHT
LIT UP. |
| 00:23:16 | >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT AND
NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT. |
| 00:23:19 | BUT, I REPEAT, THIS IS PLAINLY
WITHIN THE SINGLE SUBJECT RULE |
| 00:23:25 | BECAUSE WE PASS A BILL DEALING
WITH ARSON THAT IS LIKELY TO |
| 00:23:28 | INCREASE THE NEVER-ENDING PARADE
OF PEOPLE INTO INCARCERATION AND |
| 00:23:36 | DRC FACILITIES HERE, INCREASING
THE DENSITY, AND THE PROVISION |
| 00:23:39 | THAT THE GENTLEMAN REFERRED TO
IS DESIGNED TO ALLEVIATE TO SOME |
| 00:23:42 | DEGREE THAT DENSITY.
NUMBER ONE. |
| 00:23:44 | NUMBER TWO, THERE IS NOTHING IN
THE BILL THAT AUTHORIZES |
| 00:23:46 | OUT-OF-STATE PRISONERS TO COME
INTO OHIO AND THE IMPRISONED |
| 00:23:48 | HERE IN OHIO.
THE PROVISION THAT THE GENTLEMAN |
| 00:23:51 | REFERRED TO ME BELIEVE, SIMPLY
SAYS THAT IF THE PRISON IN WHICH |
| 00:23:55 | THESE OHIO PEOPLE WOULD BE
TRANSFERRED TO ALREADY CONTAINS |
| 00:24:08 | FEDERAL PRISONERS THAT THERE
MUST BE ASSURANCES THAT THOSE |
| 00:24:14 | PRISONERS ARE MAINTAINED
PHYSICALLY AND OPERATIONALLY |
| 00:24:18 | SEPARATE FROM THE OHIO
POPULATION THAT GOES IN THERE AS |
| 00:24:22 | WELL.
SO, IT DOES NOT INCREASE THE |
| 00:24:25 | FLOW OF OUT-OF-STATE PRISONERS
INTO THE STATE OF OHIO. |
| 00:24:30 | I URGE SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
>> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE |
| 00:24:46 | BILL PASS?
THE CLERK CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. |
| 00:25:39 | >> [CLERK CALLS ROLL].
>> 25 YAYS, ONE NAY THE BILL IS |
| 00:25:41 | PASSED AND ENTITLED.
26, THE BILL IS PASSED AND |
| 00:25:45 | ENTITLED.
>> [CLERK READS TITLE]. |
| 00:26:01 | >> THE QUESTION IS, SHALL THE
TITLE BE AGREED TO? |
| 00:26:06 | HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE TITLE
IS AGREED TO. |
| 00:26:08 | THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR
EKLUND. |
| 00:26:10 | >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT
PLEASE AMEND THE TITLE TO ADD |
| 00:26:12 | THE NAMES EKLUND, HACKETT, HITE,
UECKER, THANK YOU. |
| 00:26:16 | AND THOMAS.
>> WITHOUT OBJECTION, HEARING NO |
| 00:26:21 | OBJECTION THE TITLE IS AGREED
TO. |
| 00:26:24 | >> BILLS FOR THIRD
CONSIDERATION. |
| 00:26:26 | >> [CLERK READS THE BILLS].
>> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE |
| 00:26:28 | BILL PASS?
CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR OBHOF. |
| 00:26:30 | >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT I
MOVE THAT HOUSE BILL 470 BE |
| 00:26:32 | INFORMALLY PASSED AND RETAIN HIS
PLACE IN THE CALENDAR. |
| 00:26:35 | >> WITHOUT OBJECTION, HEARING NO
OBJECTION THE MOTION IS AGREED |
| 00:26:38 | TO.
BILLS FOR THIRD CONSIDERATION. |
| 00:26:40 | >> [CLERK READS BILLS FOR THIRD
CONSIDERATION]. |
| 00:26:42 | >> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE
BILL PASS? |
| 00:26:44 | CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR LAROSE.
>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT, WE |
| 00:26:47 | HAVE ALL BECOME PAINFULLY AWARE
OF HOW DEADLY HEROIN IS IN OUR |
| 00:27:20 | COMMUNITIES.
ITS IMPACTED ALL OF US. |
| 00:27:23 | ITS IMPACTED SOME OF US
PERSONALLY IN OUR FAMILIES. |
| 00:27:26 | ITS IMPACTED OUR NEIGHBORS AND
OUR CONSTITUENTS. |
| 00:27:30 | AS DEADLY AS HEROIN IS, THERES
SOMETHING RELATIVELY NEW ON THE |
| 00:27:36 | SCENE WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE
YEARS THATS EVEN MORE DEADLY. |
| 00:27:40 | FENTANYL AND CARFENTANIL ARE
KILLING OHIOANS IN RECORD |
| 00:27:46 | NUMBERS.
ITS NOT AN OVERSTATEMENT TO |
| 00:27:49 | CALL IT AN EPIDEMIC.
THIS STUFF IS LETHAL, DEADLY, |
| 00:27:56 | AND OUR CONSTITUENTS WANT US TO
ADDRESS THIS SCOURGE ON OUR |
| 00:28:01 | COMMUNITIES.
THE WAY TO ADDRESS THIS IS |
| 00:28:04 | MANY-FOLD, TREATMENT IS SO
IMPORTANT AND WE NEED TO BE |
| 00:28:09 | FOCUSING ON THAT.
THIS BILL IS JUST ONE PART OF |
| 00:28:15 | ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE.
ILL FREELY ADMIT THAT THIS BILL |
| 00:28:20 | IS JUST A MODEST PART IN
ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE BUT |
| 00:28:23 | IMPORTANT NONETHELESS.
THIS BILL, QUITE SIMPLY, MAKES |
| 00:28:28 | SURE THAT WE CAN APPROPRIATELY
HANDLE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE |
| 00:28:34 | TRAFFICKING THIS POISON IN OUR
COMMUNITIES. |
| 00:28:39 | NOW I THINK WE ALL SHARE THE
BELIEF THAT ADDICTS DESERVE |
| 00:28:44 | TREATMENT AND TRAFFICKERS
DESERVE PRISON. |
| 00:28:48 | AND THIS BILL COMPLIES WITH THAT
VERY CONCEPT. |
| 00:28:52 | VERY CAREFULLY WRITTEN WITH THE
HELP OF SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS FROM |
| 00:28:57 | FOLKS IN THE ADMINISTRATION,
DRC, EXPERTS OF ALL KINDS TO |
| 00:29:03 | MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT RIGHT.
BUT HERES THE CRUX OF IT - THIS |
| 00:29:07 | FENTANYL AND CARFENTANIL STUFF
IS UNUSUALLY DEADLY. |
| 00:29:11 | VERY SMALL QUANTITIES OF
FENTANYL AND EVEN SMALLER |
| 00:29:15 | QUANTITIES OF CARFENTANIL ARE
EXTREMELY LETHAL. |
| 00:29:20 | IN FACT, LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS ARE BEING ADVISED IF |
| 00:29:24 | THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE
ENCOUNTERING THIS ON SCENE, TO |
| 00:29:29 | GET AWAY FROM IT, TO TREAT IT
LIKE A HAZMAT AND TO CALL IN THE |
| 00:29:33 | PROFESSIONALS BECAUSE IT CAN BE
DEADLY TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT |
| 00:29:37 | OFFICERS IN QUESTION.
THIS IS NASTY STUFF. |
| 00:29:41 | ITS BEEN REPORTED THAT
CARFENTANIL, WHICH IS A LARGE |
| 00:29:46 | ANIMAL TRANQUILIZER BASICALLY,
THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD USE TO |
| 00:29:48 | PUT AN ELEPHANT DOWN FOR
SURGERY, ITS BEEN REPORTED THAT |
| 00:29:52 | CARFENTANIL HAS BEEN DEPLOYED AS
A CHEMICAL WEAPON IN USE BY |
| 00:29:58 | CERTAIN TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS.
THIS IS NASTY STUFF. |
| 00:30:03 | VERY SMALL QUANTITIES OF IT ARE
DEADLY. |
| 00:30:07 | THE CRUX TO THE BILL WAS TO
REDEFINE WHAT CONSTITUTES AS A |
| 00:30:12 | BULK QUANTITY.
MANY TIMES, IN THE CODE WE USE |
| 00:30:15 | THAT TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN WHO
IS A TRAFFICKER AND WHO IS A |
| 00:30:18 | COMMON USER.
THE BULK QUANTITY. |
| 00:30:20 | IF YOURE CARRYING AROUND A
BUNCH OF THE STUFF, YOURE NOT A |
| 00:30:23 | USER, YOURE A TRAFFICKER.
THE QUANTITY IN CURRENT LAW IS A |
| 00:30:28 | RIDICULOUS AMOUNT.
ITS ENOUGH FENTANYL TO KILL |
| 00:30:31 | TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
NO ONE IS WALKING AROUND WITH |
| 00:30:34 | THAT LEVEL OF FENTANYL.
SO, WHAT THIS BILL DOES IS |
| 00:30:39 | REDEFINES DOWN THE BULK
QUANTITY. |
| 00:30:42 | FENTANYL IS A DRUG THATS USED
AND VERY USEFUL IN SURGERY. |
| 00:30:48 | WHEN USED IN A CLINICAL SETTING,
IT CAN BE HELPFUL BUT ITS A |
| 00:30:55 | VERY POWERFUL SYNTHETIC OPIATE.
FENTANYL IS 30-50 TIMES MORE |
| 00:31:01 | POTENT THAN HEROIN.
30-50 TIMES AND THEN CARFENTANIL |
| 00:31:04 | MORES.
WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN |
| 00:31:08 | KILLING A LOT OF OUR FELLOW
OHIOANS. |
| 00:31:11 | IN 2015, THERE WAS A SHARP RISE
IN THESE DEATHS PER A REPORT |
| 00:31:16 | ISSUED BY THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF
HEALTH, THE RISE IN |
| 00:31:19 | FENTANYL-RELATED DEATHS
INCREASED FROM 84 IN 2013 TO 503 |
| 00:31:22 | IN 2014 AND IT ROSE TO 1,155 IN
2015 AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM |
| 00:31:30 | HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME
PROFESSIONALS THEY BELIEVE |
| 00:31:34 | THATS LARGELY UNDERREPORTED
BECAUSE IN MANY CASES, WHEN THE |
| 00:31:42 | COUNTY CORONER GETS THE BODY
BROUGHT TO THEM, THEY SAY ITS A |
| 00:31:46 | HEROIN DEATH.
THEY SORT OF TAKE IT FOR |
| 00:31:50 | GRANTED, THIS BODY WAS FOUND IN
SUCH A CIRCUMSTANCE THERE WAS A |
| 00:31:55 | NEEDLE OR SOMETHING ELSE, THEY
CLASSIFY IT AS A HEROIN DEATH |
| 00:31:59 | AND THEY MAY NOT BE TESTING FOR
WHETHER FENTANYL IS INVOLVED AS |
| 00:32:03 | WELL.
THIS MAY BE VASTLY |
| 00:32:05 | UNDERREPORTED.
SUFFICE IT TO SAY, ITS KILLING |
| 00:32:09 | A LOT OF OUR FELLOW OHIOANS.
YOULL RECOGNIZE THAT NUMBER IS |
| 00:32:12 | HIGHER THAN CAR CRASHES.
MORE OHIOANS ARE DYING FROM THIS |
| 00:32:16 | STUFF THAN FROM AUTO ACCIDENTS.
THIS BILL WOULD SIMPLY ALLOW US |
| 00:32:22 | TO GO AFTER TRAFFICKERS WITH A
HIGHER LEVEL OF FELONY |
| 00:32:27 | CONVICTION, WHICH CARRIES A
LONGER SENTENCE. |
| 00:32:30 | THERE ARE MANDATORY PRISON TERMS
WITH THIS, BUT ALSO LEFT TO THE |
| 00:32:34 | DISCRETION OF THE JUDGE, AND
THATS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS |
| 00:32:39 | IMPORTANT.
THERES A MANDATORY PRISON TERM |
| 00:32:43 | BETWEEN 3 AND 8 YEARS FOR A DRUG
POSSESSION OR AGGRAVATED FUNDING |
| 00:32:47 | OF DRUG TRAFFICKING CONVICTION,
WHEN THE DRUG INVOLVED IS A |
| 00:32:52 | FENTANYL-RELATED COMPOUND, WHICH
WOULD INCLUDE BOTH FENTANYL AND |
| 00:32:57 | CARFENTANIL, AND THE OFFENDER IS
CONVICTED OF A MAJOR DRUG |
| 00:33:04 | SPECIFICATION.
I THINK WEVE REACHED THE RIGHT |
| 00:33:07 | BALANCE IN THIS, AND AGAIN IT
WAS A VERY CAREFULLY CRAFTED |
| 00:33:09 | PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO MAKE
SURE TO DO THAT. |
| 00:33:11 | ONE THING THAT WE ALSO ADDED IN
THIS AS A RESULT OF CONVERSATION |
| 00:33:15 | WITH SOME FOLKS IS THAT WE TOOK
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HARMONIZE |
| 00:33:19 | STATE LAW WITH FEDERAL LAW
REGARDING A SUBSTANCE CALLED |
| 00:33:25 | LISDEXAMFETAMINE.
THIS SUBSTANCE IS USED IN THE |
| 00:33:28 | TREATMENT OF ADHD.
THIS BILL WOULD MAKE SURE THAT |
| 00:33:30 | STATE LAW IS MIRRORED WITH
FEDERAL LAW AS IT RELATES TO |
| 00:33:34 | THAT.
I WANT TO THANK THOSE FOLKS THAT |
| 00:33:37 | WORKED WITH ME ON THIS.
THIS WAS BROUGHT TO ME BY THE |
| 00:33:44 | WAYNE COUNTY PROSECUTOR.
HE BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION |
| 00:33:50 | SEVERAL YEARS AGO, BEFORE MANY
OF US HAD HEARD OF FENTANYL. |
| 00:33:53 | AND I APPRECIATE THIS HELP ON
THAT, AS WELL AS THE FOLKS FROM |
| 00:33:56 | THE OHIO PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION AND INDIVIDUALS FROM |
| 00:33:59 | THE ADMINISTRATION.
I WANT TO THANK CHAIRMAN EKLUND |
| 00:34:01 | AND THE MEMBERS OF THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE COMMITTEE ALSO FOR THEIR |
| 00:34:04 | HELP ON THIS.
SEN. |
| 00:34:06 | EKLUND PUT A GREAT DEAL OF WORK
INTO THIS AND I APPRECIATE HIS |
| 00:34:08 | HELP WITH THAT AS WELL AS SEN.
SEITZ. |
| 00:34:10 | THE BILL WAS REPORTED TODAY OUT
OF COMMITTEE ON A VOTE OF 7-3, |
| 00:34:21 | AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT AND LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU TO |
| 00:34:25 | TAKE THIS SMALL STEP IN
ADDRESSING THIS CRISIS THAT IS |
| 00:34:28 | TAKING FAR TOO MANY OF OUR
OHIOANS. |
| 00:34:34 | >> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE
BILL PASS? |
| 00:34:36 | THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR
SKINDELL. |
| 00:34:38 | >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT AND
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE |
| 00:34:41 | SENATE.
I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS |
| 00:34:44 | BILL.
JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, AND THE |
| 00:34:48 | DISCUSSION PERTAINING TO ONE OF
THE BILL WE HEARD THE GOOD |
| 00:34:51 | SENATOR FROM THE 18TH SENATE
DISTRICT TALK ABOUT THE |
| 00:34:54 | NEVER-ENDING PARADE OF OHIOANS
GOING INTO PRISONS IN THE STATE. |
| 00:35:00 | IN FACT, LATE SPRING THE HEAD OF
DRC NOTED TO THE PRESS THAT BY |
| 00:35:08 | EARLY SUMMER WE WERE BREAKING
THE RECORD FOR RECORD FOR PRISON |
| 00:35:15 | POPULATION IN THE STATE.
WE HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN |
| 00:35:19 | THE COUNTRY.
AND THE CLEAR MAJORITY OF THOSE |
| 00:35:21 | PRISONERS, THE SIGNIFICANT
PORTION OF THEM ARE FOLKS THAT |
| 00:35:23 | HAVE BEEN SWEPT UP INTO PRISON
BECAUSE OF OUR DRUG LAWS. |
| 00:35:25 | AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN VERY
UNFAIR AND WE KNOW THAT IT |
| 00:35:27 | SIGNIFICANTLY JAILS MANY OUR
AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN |
| 00:35:31 | THE STATE.
NOW, I BELIEVE THAT THE SENATOR |
| 00:35:45 | FROM THE 27TH DISTRICT HAS GOOD
INTENTIONS AND REALLY IS TRYING |
| 00:35:50 | TO GO AFTER THOSE HEAVY
TRAFFICKERS IN THIS BILL. |
| 00:35:53 | AND I BELIEVE THAT HE IS
COMMITTED TO THAT EFFORT. |
| 00:35:55 | HOWEVER, THE TESTIMONY THAT CAME
OUT OF THE COMMITTEE IS VERY |
| 00:35:58 | CONCERNING TO ME THOUGH THAT
THIS BILL NOT ONLY SWEEPS UP |
| 00:36:00 | THOSE HEAVY TRAFFICKERS BUT IT
WILL SWEEP UP A LOT OF USERS. |
| 00:36:02 | LOW LEVEL USERS.
AND I DO AGREE THAT THIS IS A |
| 00:36:04 | DEADLY DRUG WE NEED TO DEAL WITH
SOMETHING, IT'S NOT OPENING THE |
| 00:36:07 | PRISON DOORS IT SHOULD BE
OPENING TREATMENT BEDS AND THAT |
| 00:36:09 | SOMETHING WE ARE FAILING TO DO
HORRIBLY IN THE STATE, EVEN |
| 00:36:11 | THOUGH WE ON THIS SIDE OF THE
AISLE HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD AN |
| 00:36:13 | AMENDMENT AFTER AMENDMENT TO ADD
FUNDING TO OPEN THOSE TREATMENT |
| 00:36:35 | BEDS AND THEY HAVE BEEN
REJECTED. |
| 00:36:37 | NOW, INSTEAD OF AND THE CONCERN
THAT CAME OUT OF COMMITTEE IS |
| 00:36:43 | ONE, THERE IS A RECODIFICATION
COMMITTEE THAT HAS BEEN MEETING. |
| 00:36:46 | IN THE TESTIMONY, HAS BEEN THAT
THE LANGUAGE IN THIS AND |
| 00:36:48 | LANGUAGE OF THIS BILL FLIES
AGAINST THE WORK OF THE |
| 00:36:50 | RECODIFICATION COMMITTEE IN THIS
AREA TO PREVENT LOW LEVEL USERS |
| 00:36:53 | FROM ENDING UP IN JAIL UNDER
THESE DRUG LAWS. |
| 00:36:55 | IN ADDITION, THE TESTIMONY THAT
CAME OUT OF COMMITTEE ALSO |
| 00:36:57 | DEMONSTRATED THAT THE LOW-LEVEL
USERS, SO IS A TRAFFICKING IF |
| 00:37:00 | YOU ARE PARTING WITH SOMEBODY
AND YOU SHARE WITH THE BUDDY? |
| 00:37:12 | THIS MAY SWEEP THOSE TWO
INDIVIDUALS UP INTO PRISON UNDER |
| 00:37:23 | THIS BILL.
I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD GO |
| 00:37:27 | AFTER THE HEAVY USERS, WE SHOULD
MAKE SURE THE PENALTIES ARE JUST |
| 00:37:32 | IN THE SITUATIONS AND TRY TO
STOP THE TRAFFICKING. |
| 00:37:35 | HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT GOING TO
BREAK THE CYCLE UNTIL WE GET |
| 00:37:39 | TREATMENT IN THE STATE AND THE
CYCLE IS GETTING WORSE. |
| 00:37:43 | AND I'VE SPOKEN MANY TIMES ABOUT
DRUG TREATMENT AND THE |
| 00:37:46 | UNDERFUNDING OF DRUG TREATMENT
IN THE STATE AND THAT'S WHERE WE |
| 00:37:50 | NEED TO BE FOCUSED, MONEY FOR
TREATMENT, NOT MONEY FOR JAILS. |
| 00:37:54 | THANK YOU.
>> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE |
| 00:37:56 | BILL PASS?
THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR |
| 00:37:59 | BURKE.
>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT I |
| 00:38:01 | JUST RISE TO REMIND MY FRIENDS
AND COLLEAGUES THAT THIS BODY |
| 00:38:06 | HAS MADE GREAT STRIDES IN
TREATMENT. |
| 00:38:09 | THE INTEGRATION OF BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH AND ADDICTION SERVICES IN |
| 00:38:12 | THE MAINSTREAM HEALTHCARE WILL
ALLOW FOR AXIS THAT IS NOT BEEN |
| 00:38:15 | SEEN IN DECADES IN THIS GREAT
STATE. |
| 00:38:18 | SO, WHILE SOME MAY MAKE AND
ARGUE THAT THIS IS A FUNDING |
| 00:38:22 | ISSUE I WOULD ARGUE VERY MUCH
THAT IT IS AN ALLOCATION AND |
| 00:38:26 | PROCESS ISSUE BECAUSE NO MATTER
HOW MUCH MONEY YOU PUT INTO A |
| 00:38:30 | PROBLEM, WHEN SOMEONE CANNOT
FIND A SPECIALIST OR PROVIDER TO |
| 00:38:34 | TREAT THEM, MONEY IS IRRELEVANT.
AND THIS BODY IS SOLVING THAT |
| 00:38:39 | DILEMMA.
SECONDLY IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL |
| 00:38:42 | AND MY FRIEND SENATOR LAROSE,
FENTANYL IS A DEADLY SUBSTANCE |
| 00:38:47 | MEASURED IN MICROGRAMS, IT IS
NOT BEING PLACED INTO THE |
| 00:38:50 | PRODUCT AT THE STREET LEVEL, BUT
BY ILLICIT MANUFACTURERS IN |
| 00:38:54 | MEXICO.
NOW IF WE DON'T GIVE LAW |
| 00:38:57 | ENFORCEMENT THE POWER TO
DIFFERENTIATE THAT PRODUCT FROM |
| 00:39:00 | HERE ON, WHICH I BELIEVE IS
KILLING MORE PEOPLE IN OUR STATE |
| 00:39:04 | THAN HEROIN, THEN HOW DO WE WORK
OUR WAY BACK UP THE SUPPLY |
| 00:39:07 | CHAIN?
BECAUSE IDLE THREATS TO MY |
| 00:39:10 | COLLEAGUES POINT DON'T WORK.
I WANT THE BIG GUYS IN JAIL, NOT |
| 00:39:14 | THE LITTLE GUYS JUST LIKE YOU.
AND IF I DON'T GIVE LAW |
| 00:39:17 | ENFORCEMENT THE ABILITY TO
PURSUE THIS SINGLE PRODUCT, |
| 00:39:20 | WHICH IS CAUSING DEATH ON A
MASSIVE SCALE, I DON'T KNOW |
| 00:39:23 | WHERE YOU START.
THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. |
| 00:39:28 | >> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE
BILL PASS? |
| 00:39:30 | THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR
THOMAS. |
| 00:39:32 | >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT.
I SHARE SENATOR LAROSES CONCERN |
| 00:39:39 | AND INTEREST IN TRYING TO
ADDRESS THE PROBLEM AND GOING |
| 00:39:43 | AFTER THE DEALERS AND
TRAFFICKERS. |
| 00:39:45 | THIS REMINDS ME THOUGH OF DURING
MY TIME AS A NARCOTICS |
| 00:39:48 | INVESTIGATOR DURING THE CRACK
EPIDEMIC. |
| 00:39:50 | AND THE SAME TYPE OF ARGUMENT
OCCURRED BACK THEN. |
| 00:39:52 | AND IT WAS SORT OF A WAR ON
DRUGS. |
| 00:39:54 | AND THAT WE WOULD PASS VERY
STRICT LAWS GOVERNING POSSESSION |
| 00:39:57 | OF CRACK AND GOING AFTER THE
DEALERS AND THINGS OF THAT |
| 00:39:59 | NATURE AND THAT WOULD RESOLVE
THE PROBLEM. |
| 00:40:11 | BUT IT WAS THE EXACT OPPOSITE IT
CREATED MUCH MORE OF A PROBLEM |
| 00:40:23 | SIMPLY BECAUSE AS MY FRIEND
SENATOR SKINDELL SAID, YOU DO |
| 00:40:30 | SWEEP UP A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS
WHO ARE BASICALLY USERS AND END |
| 00:40:36 | UP IN THE SYSTEM.
IN THIS CASE, BASED ON MANDATORY |
| 00:40:41 | SENTENCING LAWS, THESE
INDIVIDUALS WOULD BE, THE JUDGES |
| 00:40:47 | WOULD HAVE NO DISCRETION OTHER
THAN GIVING THE PERSON THREE |
| 00:40:52 | YEARS WHICH IS THE LEAST
DISCRETION THAT THE JUDGE WOULD |
| 00:40:55 | HAVE.
I WANT TO SUPPORT THE |
| 00:41:00 | LEGISLATION BUT WHEN I LOOK AT
HOW IT ALSO INVOLVES OTHER TYPES |
| 00:41:07 | OF DRUGS, I EVEN SEE MARIJUANA
AS A CHANGE RELATES TO MARIJUANA |
| 00:41:12 | POSSESSION CULTIVATION OF
MARIJUANA AND THINGS OF THAT |
| 00:41:14 | NATURE THAT'S HOW IT'S GETTING
CAUGHT UP IN WHAT MY FRIEND |
| 00:41:20 | SENATOR LAROSE IS ATTEMPTING TO
ACCOMPLISH. |
| 00:41:24 | THAT'S ONE OF MY BIGGEST
CONCERNS IS HOW DO WE FASHION A |
| 00:41:29 | BILL THAT'S NOT GOING TO CAST
SUCH A WIDE NET AND OTHER DRUG |
| 00:41:35 | OFFENSES?
WHICH IS GOING TO SWELL OUR |
| 00:41:37 | PRISONS EVEN MORE.
AND MY FRIEND INDICATED THAT |
| 00:41:41 | WE'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM
LAWS THAT ARE GOING TO SEND MORE |
| 00:41:47 | PEOPLE TO PRISON THAT SHOULD BE
GETTING TREATMENT. |
| 00:41:52 | OUR DRUG PROBLEM IS NOT A
CRIMINAL PROBLEM. |
| 00:41:54 | IT'S A HEALTH ISSUE.
I'D BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY YES |
| 00:42:01 | LOCK UP THE ONES THAT ARE CAUGHT
WITH THE FENTANYL THAT ARE |
| 00:42:06 | TRAFFICKERS.
BUT THERE ARE SO MANY BECAUSE OF |
| 00:42:11 | THEIR ILLNESS, BECAUSE OF THE
ADDICTION, THEY WILL HAVE |
| 00:42:17 | FENTANYL IN THEIR POSSESSION
BASED ON THE AMOUNT THAT WILL |
| 00:42:26 | PUSH THEM OVER THE THRESHOLD.
THAT AMOUNT IS SO MINIMAL THAT |
| 00:42:31 | IT WILL SWEEP UP A TREMENDOUS
AMOUNT OF OTHER FOLKS. |
| 00:42:35 | I CAN SUPPORT IT NOW, BUT I
REALLY THINK THAT AS WE MOVE |
| 00:42:41 | FORWARD THAT THERE WILL BE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND |
| 00:42:44 | MAYBE WE CAN AMEND THE BILL AT
SOME POINT TO DO EXACTLY WHAT |
| 00:42:48 | SENATOR LAROSE IS ATTEMPTING TO
DO WITHOUT ADDING A TREMENDOUS |
| 00:42:52 | AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL PRESSURE TO
OUR PRISON SYSTEM WHICH IS GOING |
| 00:42:57 | TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE STATE
BUDGET. |
| 00:43:00 | THANK YOU.
>> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE |
| 00:43:02 | BILL PASS?
THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR |
| 00:43:04 | EKLUND.
>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT AND |
| 00:43:06 | LET ME JUST ASSURE ALL YOUR
NUMBER ONE, THAT THIS BILL WAS |
| 00:43:12 | DEVELOPED TOGETHER WITH OUR DEAR
FRIENDS AND PROFESSIONALS AT THE |
| 00:43:17 | DEPARTMENT OF REHABILITATION AND
CORRECTION. |
| 00:43:20 | THEY HAD FINGERPRINTS ALL OVER
THIS BECAUSE WE WERE VERY |
| 00:43:24 | CONCERNED FROM THE BEGINNING
THAT THE BILL NOT CREATE A |
| 00:43:28 | PROJECTION THAT A SIGNIFICANT
NUMBER OF NEW ENTRANCES INTO THE |
| 00:43:33 | PRISON SYSTEM WOULD RESULT.
WE DID NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. |
| 00:43:37 | AND DRC WHICH HAS EVERY
INCENTIVE TO COUNSEL WITH US TO |
| 00:43:42 | SEE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN
UNNECESSARILY WAS RIGHT WITH US, |
| 00:43:46 | STEP BY STEP OF THE WAY ON THIS
BILL NUMBER ONE. |
| 00:43:50 | NUMBER TWO, THIS NOTION THAT
THIS BILL IN THE AMOUNTS PUT |
| 00:43:57 | FORTH AS CONSTITUTING
TRAFFICKING WILL SOMEHOW SWEEP |
| 00:44:02 | UP LOW LEVEL USERS, LOW-LEVEL
PROFESSORS WHO WERE ALL THE |
| 00:44:07 | PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY BUSTING
THE PRISONS OPEN, OR BUSTING |
| 00:44:12 | THEM AT THEIR SCENES.
THESE LOW-LEVEL NONVIOLENT |
| 00:44:15 | OFFENDERS.
I WOULD SAY THAT THE SPONSOR |
| 00:44:19 | EXTENDED HIMSELF SUBSTANTIALLY
IN THE MATTER BY REACHING OUT TO |
| 00:44:25 | THE CASE WESTERN RESERVE
UNIVERSITY, CONSULTING WITH THE |
| 00:44:28 | EXPERTS THERE WHO STUDY AND KNOW
WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. |
| 00:44:33 | WHEN IT COMES TO HOW MUCH OF A
SUBSTANCE IS LIKELY TO BE FOUND |
| 00:44:38 | IN THE POSITION OF A DRUG
ADDICT, HOW MUCH IS LIKELY TO BE |
| 00:44:42 | FOUND IN THE POSITION OF A USER
WHO IS SIMPLY SELLING TO FEED |
| 00:44:46 | HIS OWN HABIT, AND HOW MUCH IS
LIKELY TO BE IN THE POSSESSION |
| 00:44:50 | OF A TRAFFICKER.
AND WE FOUND FROM THAT EVIDENCE |
| 00:44:56 | THAT'S PART OF THE WAY IN WHICH
WE SETTLED UPON THE AMOUNT THAT |
| 00:44:59 | THE SPONSOR HAS DESCRIBED HERE
IN THIS BILL. |
| 00:45:02 | SO, ALL THESE CONCERNS THAT ARE
EPHEMERAL AND UNPROVEN NOT ONLY |
| 00:45:08 | ARE IN EPHEMERAL AND UNPROVEN IN
MY JUDGMENT BUT THE SPONSOR DID |
| 00:45:13 | A TREMENDOUS JOB OF ANTICIPATING
THEM AND CRAFTING THE BILL IN |
| 00:45:16 | SUCH A WAY AS TO AVOID THEM.
I CONTINUE TO URGE YOUR SUPPORT |
| 00:45:20 | FOR THE BILL.
>> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE |
| 00:45:23 | BILL PASS?
THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR |
| 00:45:25 | PATTON.
>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT I |
| 00:45:27 | DON'T OFTEN RISE.
I ALSO THINK THAT THE SPONSORS |
| 00:45:32 | AND SUPPORTERS OF THE BILL DO A
FAIR JOB. |
| 00:45:37 | AND I OFTEN RESPECT THE FACT
THAT THE FOLKS WROTE THE BILL |
| 00:45:41 | GET UP AND VERY ARTFULLY WILL
DESCRIBE THEIR OBJECTIONS AND |
| 00:45:46 | THEIR CONCERNS.
AND I RESPECT BOTH COMMENTS FROM |
| 00:45:49 | SENATORS THOMAS AND SENATOR
SKINDELL. |
| 00:45:54 | I WAS STRUCK BY THE MOTION THAT
WHEN I HEARD THE WORD THAT THE |
| 00:45:58 | DRUG PROBLEM IS NOT A CRIMINAL
PROBLEM. |
| 00:46:01 | THAT SENTENCE WAS MADE THAT
CAUSE ME TO HIT MY LIGHT. |
| 00:46:04 | FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG
TIME. |
| 00:46:08 | THE DRUG PROBLEM IS A CRIMINAL
PROBLEM. |
| 00:46:10 | I'M AFRAID THAT I MUST STRONGLY
DISAGREE. |
| 00:46:13 | AND I RESPECT SENATOR THOMAS
SPENT TIME IN THE NARCOTICS |
| 00:46:17 | UNIT.
I HAD ONE OF MY BROTHERS WHO LED |
| 00:46:20 | THE CARIBBEAN GANG TASK FORCE,
IN CLEVELAND FOR FIVE YEARS. |
| 00:46:25 | I OFTEN ASKED HIM, HOW ARE WE
DOING IN THE WORLD DRUGS AND HIS |
| 00:46:29 | RESPONSE WAS, DON'T ASK.
IT'S NOT GOOD. |
| 00:46:32 | IT CONTINUES TO BE A GROWING
PROBLEM, WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT |
| 00:46:35 | BACK WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH
THAT SAME CRACK PROBLEM THAT |
| 00:46:38 | SENATOR THOMAS ALLUDED TO THAT
ONE DAY CRACK WOULD BE A MINOR |
| 00:46:44 | ISSUE COMPARED TO THE HEROIN
EPIDEMIC AND NOW BY THE FENTANYL |
| 00:46:48 | ISSUE.
I ALSO WANT TO APPLAUD SENATOR |
| 00:46:52 | SEITZ, YEARS AGO, WHEN WE SAT
DOWN AND LOOKED AT THE PRISON |
| 00:46:56 | REFORM, WE REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF
TIME SERVED FOR CRACK COCAINE AS |
| 00:47:01 | AN EXAMPLE.
WE LOWERED IT TO THE POINT WHERE |
| 00:47:04 | IT WOULD BE THE SAME OR
IDENTICAL TO THE MUCH LOWER |
| 00:47:07 | CHARGE OF COCAINE OR THE COCAINE
THAT WAS CONSIDERED MORE OF THE |
| 00:47:12 | URBAN VS.
SUBURBAN RATHER AN URBAN DRUG. |
| 00:47:15 | AND WE DID SOME OTHER CHANGES
TRYING TO REDUCE THE PRISON |
| 00:47:18 | POPULATION AND WE DID.
WE TOOK IT FROM 52 TO 48,000 |
| 00:47:22 | VIRTUALLY OVERNIGHT.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY OUR |
| 00:47:26 | RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PEOPLE OF
THE STATE OF OHIO IS TO TAKE |
| 00:47:29 | THEM OUT OF DANGER, AND TO TAKE
DANGEROUS DRUGS NOW ADDED TO BY |
| 00:47:33 | THIS HORRIBLE ADDITIVE I WILL
CALL IT THIS FENTANYL, AND WE |
| 00:47:38 | JUST CAN'T SAY WELL WE CAN DO
THIS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET |
| 00:47:41 | MORE PEOPLE IN PRISON.
FOLKS, IS THAT THE PRICE WE PAY, |
| 00:47:46 | IF THAT THE PRICE OF THE WE ARE
ASKED TO PAY, I'M SURE THE |
| 00:47:49 | PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF OHIO
WOULD EXPECT FRANKLY DEMAND WE |
| 00:47:53 | PAY THAT PRICE.
THEY WANT THESE PEOPLE AS I SAY |
| 00:47:57 | RESPECT ALL THE OPINIONS GIVEN
HERE TODAY BUT FOLKS I STAND |
| 00:48:00 | STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
AND I URGE YOU TO RECONSIDER AND |
| 00:48:04 | DO THE SAME.
>> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE |
| 00:48:07 | BILL PASS?
THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR |
| 00:48:10 | JONES.
>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. |
| 00:48:12 | I WON'T BELABOR THE POINT, THE
DEBATE I THINK HAS BEEN A GOOD |
| 00:48:16 | ONE AND I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT
I TRULY RESPECT AND UNDERSTAND |
| 00:48:23 | THE PERSPECTIVE THAT IS RAISED
BY MY DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES. |
| 00:48:29 | AND WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK
TOWARDS OUR PAST AND SOME OF OUR |
| 00:48:34 | CRIMINAL SENTENCING AND SO THE
VIEWING PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU |
| 00:48:38 | BRING TO THIS IS CERTAINLY
VALIANT AND UNDERSTANDABLE. |
| 00:48:42 | BUT I'M RISING TODAY TO SAY THAT
IT IS PRECISELY FOR THOSE |
| 00:48:47 | ADDICTS THAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL TODAY. |
| 00:48:50 | BECAUSE, THIS IS DEADLY POISON
THAT ADDICTS THEMSELVES DON'T |
| 00:48:57 | WANT, DON'T KNOW AND
INADVERTENTLY ARE CONSUMING AND |
| 00:49:01 | IT IS KILLING THEM.
AND SO, FOR ME, WHO HAS SAT WITH |
| 00:49:09 | AND COUNSELED AND CRIED WITH AND
PRAYED WITH, THE PARENTS OF WHO |
| 00:49:15 | HAVE LOST CHILDREN TO THIS
EPIDEMIC, WHO HAVE LEARNED THAT |
| 00:49:23 | WHILE THEY WERE ADDICTS AND WILL
UNABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN |
| 00:49:27 | TREATMENT OR ACCESSING TREATMENT
INADVERTENTLY CONSUMED WHAT THEY |
| 00:49:32 | THOUGHT WAS HEROIN, BUT WAS
LATER DETERMINED WAS LACED WITH |
| 00:49:38 | UNBELIEVABLE DEADLY POISON.
IT IS FOR THOSE ADDICTS FOR |
| 00:49:40 | WHICH I AM CONCERNED.
THIS IS NOT A SENTENCING ISSUE |
| 00:49:42 | LIKE THE ONES THAT WE'VE SEEN IN
THE PAST. |
| 00:49:45 | COLLEAGUES HERE ON BOTH SIDES OF
THE AISLE HAVE WORKED |
| 00:49:48 | TREMENDOUSLY TO TRY TO DEAL WITH
SOME OF THE SENTENCING CONCERNS. |
| 00:49:52 | SENATOR SEITZ HAS BEEN IN THE
FOREFRONT OF MUCH OF THAT WORK. |
| 00:49:54 | BUT IT IS I ASSURE YOU THAT IT
IS WITH THAT SAME HARD AND SAME |
| 00:50:12 | VIEW THAT I AM SUPPORTING THIS
BECAUSE AS MUCH IS ADDICTS DON'T |
| 00:50:22 | WANT TO BE ADDICTS, THEY DON'T
WANT TO DIE. |
| 00:50:26 | AND IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING TO
STOP THE SUPPLY CHAIN, BY |
| 00:50:35 | NARROWLY TARGETING THOSE WHO ARE
KNOWINGLY, WILLINGLY, PREYING |
| 00:50:43 | UPON THE ADDICTS, THEN WE ARE
FAILING AND MY VIEW TO PROTECT |
| 00:50:51 | THE LEAST AMONG US, THE MOST
VULNERABLE, THOSE VERY ADDICTS |
| 00:50:55 | THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP.
AND SO, IT'S WITH THAT RESPECT |
| 00:51:01 | FOR THE DIFFERING VIEWPOINT, BUT
A UNIFICATION UPON THE COMMON |
| 00:51:08 | PURPOSE TO PROTECT WAY TOO MANY
VULNERABLE OHIOANS TO ENSURE |
| 00:51:16 | THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO FIGHT
WHAT SEEMS TO BE A LOSING |
| 00:51:21 | BATTLE.
SO, THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT FOR |
| 00:51:24 | YOUR INDULGENCE.
>> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE |
| 00:51:28 | BILL PASS?
THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR |
| 00:51:30 | SEITZ.
>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. |
| 00:51:33 | I GENERALLY OPPOSE MANDATORY
MINIMUMS. |
| 00:51:36 | I GENERALLY OPPOSE INCREASED AND
ENHANCED SENSING. |
| 00:51:39 | AND I GENERALLY OPPOSE OR I
GENERALLY BELIEVE THAT THE WAR |
| 00:51:45 | ON DRUGS HAS NOT BEEN A SUCCESS.
HOWEVER, I RISE TO GIVE MY |
| 00:51:52 | FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
AISLE A LITTLE BIT OF TRUE |
| 00:51:56 | GENTLEMANLY, FRIENDLY ADVICE.
THIS IS A KILLER DRUG. |
| 00:52:06 | YOUR NUMBERS ARE DIMINISHED FROM
24 23 10 24 NINE. |
| 00:52:16 | IT WOULD BE A BIG MISTAKE FOR
YOU TO VOTE AGAINST A BILL THAT |
| 00:52:24 | DEALS WITH THE MOST POISONOUS
SUBSTANCE KNOWN TO MAN AND |
| 00:52:29 | DRUGS.
AND SENATOR LAROSE, AND SENATOR |
| 00:52:33 | EKLUND HAVE WORKED TOGETHER WITH
ME TO MAKE THIS BILL A LITTLE |
| 00:52:38 | SOFTER TO REDUCE THE EXTENT OF
THE MANDATORY MINIMUM. |
| 00:52:43 | THIS IS A KILLER DRUG.
SO, MY ADVICE, TAKE IT OR LEAVE |
| 00:52:49 | IT, APROPOS OF THE SPIRIT OF OUR
GOVERNOR THAT GAVE THOSE |
| 00:52:52 | ELOQUENT REMARKS AT THE
BEGINNING OF OUR SESSION, IT |
| 00:52:55 | WOULD BE A BIG MISTAKE FOR YOU
GUYS TO VOTE NO ON THIS BILL. |
| 00:53:01 | I JUST CAN'T FATHOM THAT YOU
WOULD. |
| 00:53:04 | THIS IS SERIOUS STOP.
AND THE BILL HAS BEEN NARROWLY |
| 00:53:10 | CRAFTED TO DEAL WITH SOMETHING
THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT |
| 00:53:14 | ELEPHANT TRANQUILIZERS FOLKS.
THERE PUTTING ELEPHANT |
| 00:53:19 | TRANQUILIZERS, THERE PUTTING
ELEPHANT TRANQUILIZERS AND |
| 00:53:23 | HEROIN.
NOW HEROIN WILL KILL YOU BUT |
| 00:53:26 | WHEN YOU MIX THAT WITH AN
ELEPHANT TRANQUILIZER, YOU ARE |
| 00:53:28 | DEADER THAN A DOORNAIL.
AND SOMETHING MUST BE DONE ABOUT |
| 00:53:34 | IT.
SO, I APPLAUD MY FRIEND, FROM |
| 00:53:36 | THE AKRON AREA FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP, THE GOVERNOR'S |
| 00:53:41 | PEOPLE, DRC, NOBODY CARES MORE
ABOUT OVERCROWDING IN PRISONS |
| 00:53:45 | THAN DRC, THEY ARE FOR THIS
BILL. |
| 00:53:48 | HONESTLY, JUST A LITTLE FRIENDLY
ADVICE IN THE SPIRIT OF |
| 00:53:52 | CHRISTMAS, I THINK A LOT OF VOTE
YES. |
| 00:53:56 | THANK YOU.
>> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE |
| 00:53:58 | BILL PASS?
THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR |
| 00:54:00 | THOMAS.
BRIEFLY. |
| 00:54:02 | SECOND TIME.
>> I'M SORRY. |
| 00:54:07 | THANK YOU.
MY ADVICE OBVIOUSLY IS WE'VE GOT |
| 00:54:12 | TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO
TREATMENT. |
| 00:54:15 | THAT'S WHERE THE MATTER IS.
WE CAN ALSO PUT MORE MONEY INTO |
| 00:54:20 | LAW ENFORCEMENT AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL IF WE REALLY WANT TO BE |
| 00:54:23 | SERIOUS ABOUT ADDRESSING THE
PROBLEM. |
| 00:54:26 | SO, I ACCEPT YOUR ADVICE, BUT I
ALSO WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME |
| 00:54:31 | ADVICE.
AND THAT IS LET'S FOCUS ON |
| 00:54:34 | PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO
TREATMENT, LET'S PUT MORE MONEY |
| 00:54:37 | INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
SO, WE CAN REALLY ADDRESS THE |
| 00:54:41 | PROBLEM.
THANK YOU. |
| 00:54:45 | >> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE
BILL PASS? |
| 00:54:47 | THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR
LAROSE, BRIEFLY. |
| 00:54:49 | SECOND TIME.
>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT, VERY |
| 00:54:52 | BRIEFLY.
AGAIN, THE IMPORTANT TOPIC AND |
| 00:54:54 | WE CAN GO ON AWFULLY BUT WE WILL
NOT. |
| 00:54:57 | IT WAS RAISED BY ONE OF OUR GOOD
COLLEAGUES THE IDEA THAT SOMEHOW |
| 00:55:01 | THIS BILL, 200+ PAGES OF IT
IMPACT MARIJUANA, NOT SURE THERE |
| 00:55:06 | IS NOTHING MARIJUANA RELATED IN
THIS. |
| 00:55:08 | I THINK THAT WAS AN HONEST
MISTAKE. |
| 00:55:10 | THAT ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES MADE
MENTION A MARIJUANA. |
| 00:55:13 | NOTHING IN THIS BILL PERTAINS TO
MARIJUANA. |
| 00:55:16 | ALSO, IT WAS SAID THAT THIS BILL
WOULD ALLOW A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF |
| 00:55:19 | SENTINEL TO BE USED TO
CONSTITUTE A MAJOR DRUG CRIME |
| 00:55:23 | AND THEREBY SWEEP IN A USER
INSTEAD OF A TRAFFICKER. |
| 00:55:27 | AND I MUST HONESTLY DISAGREE.
THIS IS A DRUG THAT THE LETHAL |
| 00:55:32 | DOSE OF IT IS MEASURED IN
MICROGRAMS. |
| 00:55:36 | MICROGRAMS.
YOU MUST RISE TO MANY GRAMS IN |
| 00:55:40 | THIS BILL BEFORE THERE IS A
PRESUMPTION OF PRISON TIME OR A |
| 00:55:43 | MAJOR DRUG OFFENSE.
THE INDIVIDUAL USER WOULD HAVE |
| 00:55:47 | TO HAVE ENOUGH OF THE STUFF TO
KILL THEMSELVES MANY TIMES OVER |
| 00:55:51 | AND ALL THEIR FRIENDS TO BE A
MAJOR DRUG OFFENDER UNDER THIS |
| 00:55:55 | BILL.
MICROGRAMS IS A FEW GRAINS OF |
| 00:55:58 | SAND, IMAGINE A TINY QUANTITY
TWO OR THREE GRAINS OF SAND. |
| 00:56:03 | MICROGRAMS.
TO BE A MAJOR DRUG OFFENDER |
| 00:56:06 | UNDER THIS BILL YOU WOULD HAVE
TO HAVE MANY GRAMS WHICH IS |
| 00:56:09 | AGAIN A LETHAL DOSE, MANY TIMES
OVER. |
| 00:56:13 | THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT I,
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO |
| 00:56:15 | CLARIFY THAT.
>> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE |
| 00:56:17 | BILL PASS?
THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL |
| 00:56:19 | PLEASE.
>> [CLERK CALLS ROLL]. |
| 00:56:21 | >> 25 YAYS, TWO NAYS, THE BILL
IS PASSED AND ENTITLED. |
| 00:56:23 | >> [CLERK READS TITLE].
>> THE QUESTION IS SHALL THE |
| 00:56:25 | TITLE BE AGREED TO?
THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR |
| 00:56:27 | LAROSE.
>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. |
| 00:56:29 | PLEASE MOVE TO AMEND THE TITLE
TO INCLUDE THE NAMES BEAGLE, |
| 00:56:31 | GARDNER, HITE, HOTTINGER,
HUGHES, JONES, MANNING, |
| 00:56:33 | OELSLAGER, PATTON, PETERSON,
SEITZ, UECKER, BACON, BALDERSON, |
| 00:56:36 | THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT.
>> SENATOR TAVARES ALSO WISHES |
| 00:56:38 | TO REMOVE HER NAME PURSUANT TO
CORRESPONDENCE PRESENTED AT |
| 00:56:40 | SENATE PRESIDENT.
WITHOUT OBJECTION, ADD THE NAME |
| 00:56:42 | FABER.
WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE TITLE |
| 00:56:44 | AMENDMENTS INCLUDING THE REMOVAL
OF SENATOR TAVARES'S NAME ARE |
| 00:56:47 | AGREED TO.
HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE TITLE |
| 00:56:49 | IS AGREED TO.
>> BILLS FOR THIRD |
| 00:56:51 | CONSIDERATION.
>> [CLERK READS THE BILL]. |
| 00:56:53 | >> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE
BILL PASS? |
| 00:56:55 | CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR SEITZ.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. |
| 00:56:57 | PRESIDENT THIS IS VERY SIMPLE
BILL, IT ALLOWS PEOPLE WHO WORK |
| 00:56:59 | FOR A CASINO TO PLAY AT A CASINO
THAT IS NOT UNDER COMMON |
| 00:57:02 | OWNERSHIP WITH THE CASINO FOR
WHICH THEY WORK. |
| 00:57:04 | CURRENTLY, UNDER OHIO LAW PEOPLE
WHO WORK FOR A RACINOS KNOW CAN |
| 00:57:07 | PLAY AT ANOTHER RACINOS, NOT
UNDER COMMON OWNERSHIP. |
| 00:57:09 | THE CASINO LAW DOES NOT READ
THAT WAY WE ARE CHANGING WANT TO |
| 00:57:12 | MAKE THE CASINO LAW READ LIKE
THE RACINOS A LAW. |
| 00:57:14 | THE BILL CAME TO ME FROM A
CONSTITUENT, IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO |
| 00:57:17 | DO SOMETHING FOR CONSTITUENT AND
I KNOW SENATOR HITE IS A BIG |
| 00:57:20 | BELIEVER IN THAT.
THIS CAME TO ME FROM A |
| 00:57:22 | CONSTITUENT.
THE CASINO CONTROL COMMISSION |
| 00:57:24 | SUPPORTS THE BILL.
IT HAD NO OPPOSITION TESTIMONY |
| 00:57:26 | IT PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE
UNANIMOUSLY. |
| 00:57:28 | I WOULD URGE ARE FAVORABLE
CONSIDERATION OF SENATE BILL |
| 00:57:30 | 265.
SO, THE FOLKS AT THE CASINOS CAN |
| 00:57:33 | HAVE THE SAME RIGHT AT THE FOLKS
WHO WORK AT RACINOS. |
| 00:57:36 | >> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE
BILL PASS? |
| 00:57:38 | THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.
>> [CLERK CALLS ROLL]. |
| 00:57:40 | >> 27 YAYS, ZERO NAYS, THE BILL
IS PASSED AND ENTITLED. |
| 00:57:42 | >> [CLERK READS THE TITLE
CLOSER. |
| 00:57:44 | >> THE QUESTION IS, SHALL THE
TITLE BE AGREED TO? |
| 00:57:46 | THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR
SEITZ. |
| 00:57:48 | >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT
PLEASE AMEND THE TITLE TO ADD |
| 00:57:50 | THE NAMES JORDAN, PATTON,
SKINDELL, EKLUND, THANK YOU. |
| 00:57:52 | >> WITHOUT OBJECTION, HEARING NO
OBJECTION THE TITLE IS AGREED |
| 00:57:55 | TO.
BILLS FOR THIRD CONSIDERATION. |
| 00:57:57 | >> [CLERK READS THE BILL].
>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT, |
| 00:57:59 | MEMBERS I WILL BE BRIEF.
I RISE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF |
| 00:58:01 | SENATE BILL 271 AND URGE MY
COLLEAGUES TO PASSES. |
| 00:58:03 | MANY OF YOU MAY RECALL BACK IN
FEBRUARY THERE WAS AN INCIDENT |
| 01:01:39 | REGARDING OFFICER HICKEY IN
MARIETTA AND HAS CANINE AJAX, |
| 01:01:44 | THE TWO WERE GOING TO BE
SEPARATED BECAUSE THE LAW WAS |
| 01:01:48 | NOT CLEAR IN OHIO.
IT WAS CLEAR WHEN THE CANINE |
| 01:01:52 | UNIT WAS GOING TO THIS BAND BUT
IT IS NOT CLEAR IF THE OFFICER |
| 01:01:55 | WERE TO RETIRE WHETHER THAT
OFFICER COULD PURCHASE THE |
| 01:02:00 | CANINE AND AS PART OF.
AND IT BECAME EVIDENT, WE WORK |
| 01:02:04 | CLOSELY WITH THE CITY THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT THERE LOCALLY, WE |
| 01:02:08 | WERE CLOSE WITH LSC AND WE
CONCLUDED AND CLARIFICATION THAT |
| 01:02:13 | STATE LAW WAS NECESSARY TO MAKE
SURE THAT IN THE FUTURE |
| 01:02:17 | DEPARTMENTS WOULD HAVE TO GO
THROUGH THE SAME ISSUE AGAIN |
| 01:02:19 | BECAME A WORLDWIDE NATIONAL
ISSUE. |
| 01:02:22 | OUR BILL SIMPLY ESTABLISHES A
WAY FOR RETURNING OFFICER TO |
| 01:02:25 | PURCHASE HIS OR HER CANINE
PARTNER AT FAIR MARKET VALUE, |
| 01:02:29 | WITH THE APPROVAL FROM THE LOCAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AND UNDER |
| 01:02:34 | CONTINUE THE LAW THE OFFICER CAN
STILL PURCHASE HIS OR HER |
| 01:02:37 | RETIRING CANINE FOR A DOLLAR.
BUT THE CODE IS SILENT ON |
| 01:02:40 | WHETHER IF THE OFFICER IS
RETIRING THERE THEY CAN DO THAT |
| 01:02:44 | SO WE WANT TO BRING SOME CLARITY
TO THE LAW. |
| 01:02:48 | WE WANT TO ESTABLISH A LAW THAT
ALLOWS DOGS, AND THEIR CANAAN |
| 01:02:52 | PARTNERS TO STAY TOGETHER UPON
RETIREMENT. |
| 01:02:55 | AND WE ALSO RESPECT THE FACT
THAT A LOT OF MONEY GOES INTO |
| 01:02:58 | PURCHASING AND TRAINING THESE
CANINE UNITS AND IN THE EVENT |
| 01:03:03 | THE OFFICER IS TO RETIRE, THE
DEPARTMENT CHOOSES THEN SELL THE |
| 01:03:07 | ANIMAL THEY CAN DO SO AT A FAIR
MARKET VALUE. |
| 01:03:10 | AND SO, WHILE THE STORY HAD A
HAPPY ENDING, WE WANT TO MAKE |
| 01:03:13 | SURE THAT WE PREVENT THIS ISSUE
FROM COMING UP AGAIN. |
| 01:03:17 | AND YESTERDAY WE HEARD TESTIMONY
FROM THE OFFICER MATT FROM |
| 01:03:20 | MARIETTA WHO CAME FORWARD TO
TALK ABOUT HIS SITUATION AND WE |
| 01:03:24 | BELIEVE THIS LAW ADEQUATELY
ADDRESSES THIS ISSUE IN ANY |
| 01:03:28 | EVENT IT COMES UP IN THE FUTURE,
WE WILL HAVE A WAY TO ADDRESS |
| 01:03:31 | IT.
I THINK THIS GETS IT |
| 01:03:34 | ACCOMPLISHING WHAT WE WANT TO DO
KEEPING THE OFFICER AND THE CAME |
| 01:03:38 | IN TOGETHER.
AND MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY OR |
| 01:03:41 | THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS MADE
WHOLE FOR THE INVESTMENT THAT |
| 01:03:44 | THEY HAD AND THE TAXPAYER
DOLLARS ARE PRUDENTLY REIMBURSE. |
| 01:03:47 | I WOULD URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO
VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS, IT PASSED |
| 01:03:51 | UNANIMOUSLY OUT OF COMMITTEE, I
WANT TO THANK CHAIRMAN HITE FOR |
| 01:03:54 | MAKING A COMMITMENT TO ME AND
MADE TO GET THIS DONE WHEN WE |
| 01:03:59 | RETURNED FOR SESSION HERE IN THE
LAME-DUCK SESSION. |
| 01:04:02 | IT'S A GOOD BILL, IT WILL KEEP
CANINE OFFICERS TOGETHER WITH |
| 01:04:06 | THEIR CANINE UNITS IN THE
FUTURE. |
| 01:04:09 | AND WILL CLARIFY OHIO LAW TO
ALLOW THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS |
| 01:04:13 | AND KEEP THE LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT ON THE FRONT LINES |
| 01:04:16 | AND MAKING THE DECISION TO DO
THAT. |
| 01:04:19 | I URGE PASSAGE OF THIS
LEGISLATION. |
| 01:04:21 | THANK YOU.
>> THE QUESTION IS: SHALL THE |
| 01:04:23 | BILL PASS AS AN EMERGENCY
MEASURE. |
| 01:04:25 | SHALL THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE
REMAIN PART OF THE BILL? |
| 01:04:27 | CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.
ON THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE. |
| 01:04:29 | >> [CLERK CALLS ROLL].
>> 26 YAYS, ONE NAY THE |
| 01:04:31 | EMERGENCY CLAUSE DOES REMAIN
PART OF THE BILL, THE QUESTION |
| 01:04:33 | IS: SHALL THE BILL PASS AS AN
EMERGENCY MEASURE? |
| 01:04:35 | THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.
>> [CLERK CALLS ROLL]. |
| 01:05:13 | >> 27 YAYS ZERO NAYS, THE BILL
IS PASSED AND ENTITLED AS AN |
| 01:05:18 | EMERGENCY MEASURE.
>> [CLERK READS THE BILL]. |
| 01:05:21 | >> THE QUESTION IS, SHALL THE
TITLE BE AGREED TO? |
| 01:05:24 | THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR
GENTILE. |
| 01:05:28 | >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT
PLEASE ADD THE NAMES BROWN, |
| 01:05:34 | BURKE, EKLUND, HACKETT, HITE,
HOTTINGER, HUGHES, MANNING, |
| 01:05:38 | PATTON, SCHIAVONI, SKINDELL,
THOMAS, PETERSON, OBHOF, UECKER, |
| 01:05:42 | OELSLAGER, COLEY, FABER.
THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. |
| 01:05:47 | >> WITHOUT OBJECTION, HEARING NO
OBJECTION THE TITLE IS AGREED |
| 01:05:53 | TO.
MOTIONS. |
| 01:05:55 | CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR MANNING
FOR A MOTION. |
| 01:05:59 | >> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT MOVE
THAT THE SENATORS ABSENT THE |
| 01:06:05 | WEEK OF SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 27,
2016 IS EXCUSED SO LONG AS A |
| 01:06:11 | WRITTEN EXPLANATION IS ON FILE
WITH THE CLERK PURSUANT TO |
| 01:06:14 | SENATE RULE 17.
>> WITHOUT OBJECTION, HEARING NO |
| 01:06:17 | OBJECTION THE MOTION IS AGREED
TO. |
| 01:06:19 | OFFERING RESOLUTIONS.
THE QUESTION IS SHALL THE |
| 01:06:21 | RESOLUTIONS LISTED ON THE
PRESIDENT'S PREROGATIVE BE |
| 01:06:23 | ADOPTED?
WITHOUT OBJECTION, HEARING NO |
| 01:06:25 | OBJECTION THE RESOLUTION IS
ADOPTED. |
| 01:06:27 | MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE.
>> [CLERK READS MESSAGE FROM THE |
| 01:06:32 | HOUSE].
>> MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE. |
| 01:06:38 | >> [CLERK READS MESSAGE FROM THE
HOUSE]. |
| 01:06:46 | >> MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE.
>> [CLERK READS MESSAGE FROM THE |
| 01:06:56 | HOUSE].
>> MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE. |
| 01:07:03 | >> CLERK READS MESSAGE FROM THE
HOUSE. |
| 01:07:05 | >> MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT.
>> [CLERK READS MESSAGE FROM THE |
| 01:07:29 | PRESIDENT].
>> MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT. |
| 01:07:31 | >> [CLERK READS MESSAGE FROM THE
PRESIDENT]. |
| 01:07:54 | >> MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT.
>> [CLERK READS MESSAGE FROM THE |
| 01:07:57 | PRESIDENT].
>> ANNOUNCEMENT OF COMMITTEE |
| 01:07:59 | MEETINGS.
CHAIR RECOGNIZES SENATOR OBHOF |
| 01:08:01 | FOR A MOTION.
>> THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT I |
| 01:08:03 | MOVE THAT THE SENATE ADJOURN
UNTIL MONDAY, DECEMBER 5, 2016 |
| 01:08:05 | AT 9:30 AM FOR A PURPOSE OF A
NONVOTING SESSION. |
| 01:08:21 | >> THE QUESTION IS, SHALL THE
MOTION BE AGREED TO, WITHOUT |
| 01:08:45 | OBJECTION, HEARING NO OBJECTION
THE MOTION IS AGREED TO. |
| 01:08:47 | THE SENATE IS AN ADJOURNMENT. |
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