As public employee unions battle efforts to make changes to the state's collective bargaining laws, legilsators are targeting another flank: public employee pensions, which Representative Lynn Wachtmann called overly generous. His bill would require public employees to work longer and in some cases force them -- not taxpayers -- to kick in more money to keep the five public retirement funds in Ohio healthy. Is it a necessary step or another attack?

Guests:

Rep. Lynn Wachtmann, R-75 Napoleon

Kevin O'Brien, Director, Center for Public Management, Cleveland State University

William J. Estabrook, executive director, Ohio Police & Fire Pension Fund.

Bill Leibensperger, VP, Ohio Education Association