| 00:00:00 | >> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
BROADCAST OF THE STATE OF OHIO |
| 00:00:05 | COMES FROM THE LAW OFFICES OF --
HELPING BUSINESSES AND |
| 00:00:09 | INDIVIDUALS ALL COMPLEX LEGAL
PROBLEMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND |
| 00:00:15 | THE WORLD.
AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION |
| 00:00:18 | ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING A
HIGHER EDUCATION FACULTY WORKING |
| 00:00:24 | FOR GREAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR
EVERY CHILD. |
| 00:00:25 | ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IS MADE
POSSIBLE BY ETECH OHIO. |
| 00:00:30 | >> THE GOVERNOR SOUNDS OFF ON
WHO'S WORKING ON OHIO'S OIL AND |
| 00:00:35 | GAS WELLS -- AND IT COULD BE
ANOTHER SALVO IN HIS FIGHT FOR |
| 00:00:37 | A TAX ON THAT INDUSTRY.
A CHECK ON HOW WELL THE NEW LAW |
| 00:00:40 | ON SENTENCING HAS WORKED ON
OVERCROWDING IN THE STATE'S |
| 00:00:42 | PACKED PRISONS.
AND OHIO'S FIRST-EVER FEMALE |
| 00:00:45 | SECRETARY OF STATE SPEAKS OUT
ON THE ROLE OF WOMEN IN |
| 00:00:47 | POLITICS, AND HOW SHE CONTINUES
TO HOPE TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM. |
| 00:00:51 | ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO". |
| 00:00:53 | >> THE OIL AND GAS BOOM HAS
BROUGHT IN LOTS OF ACTIVITY TO |
| 00:00:59 | EASTERN OHIO -- AND PERHAPS
LOTS OF OUT OF STATE WORKERS, |
| 00:01:01 | IN SPITE OF GOV.
JOHN KASICH POINTED AND |
| 00:01:04 | REPEATED JOKES ABOUT THE PEOPLE
HE WANTS TO SEE WORKING WITH THE |
| 00:01:08 | OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY IN OHIO.
>> AND WITH THE ENERGY |
| 00:01:12 | COMPANIES I TOLD THEM, WE DON'T
WANT FOREIGNERS WORKING ON OUR |
| 00:01:14 | WELL HEADS, THOSE ARE PEOPLE
FROM WEST VIRGINIA, INDIANA, |
| 00:01:17 | MICHIGAN AND OKLAHOMA, OKAY?
WE WANT OHIOANS ON THE WELL |
| 00:01:21 | HEAD.
>> BUT IN AN EVENT THIS WEEK |
| 00:01:24 | WHERE THE GOVERNOR HONORED THE
UNDEFEATED OHIO STATE |
| 00:01:27 | UNIVERSITY FOOTBALL TEAM, KASICH
NOW SAYS HE'S CONCERNED THAT OUT |
| 00:01:30 | OF STATE EMPLOYEES ARE BEING
BROUGHT IN TO WORK WITH THE |
| 00:01:34 | DRILLERS.
>> SO YOU COULD HAVE THE |
| 00:01:36 | SITUATION WHERE WE ARE NOT
GETTING THE JOBS, THEY ARE |
| 00:01:40 | TAKING THE RESOURCES AND ALL OF
THEIR PROFITS AND THEY ARE |
| 00:01:43 | HEADING HOME.
THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ME. |
| 00:01:46 | NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE
CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS |
| 00:01:50 | HAPPENING YET BUT I WANT YOU TO
KNOW AND I WANT ALL OF THE |
| 00:01:53 | COMPANIES TO KNOW THAT THIS IS
AN EXTREMELY SERIOUS MATTER AND |
| 00:02:00 | WE EXPECT THEM TO BE RESPONSIVE
TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS STATE. |
| 00:02:03 | >> THE GOVERNOR AND THE OIL AND
GAS INDUSTRY HAVE HAD A DISPUTE |
| 00:02:08 | FOR MONTHS OVER KASICH'S
PROPOSAL TO INCREASE THE |
| 00:02:11 | SEVERANCE TAX THAT DRILLERS PAY.
HE WANTS THAT REVENUE TO OFFSET |
| 00:02:15 | A CUT IN THE STATE INCOME TAX
FOR ALL OHIOANS. |
| 00:02:17 | AND SO THESE COMMENTS MIGHT
SOUND TO SOME WITHIN THE |
| 00:02:20 | INDUSTRY AS AN ATTEMPT TO SET
THE STAGE FOR A RENEWED FIGHT |
| 00:02:24 | FOR THAT TAX.
TOM STEWART IS THE EXECUTIVE |
| 00:02:27 | VICE PRESIDENT OF THE OHIO OIL
AND GAS ASSOCIATION. |
| 00:02:29 | HE SAYS THE OIL AND GAS
COMPANIES HAVE INVESTED OVER $3 |
| 00:02:33 | BILLION IN OHIO, AND BECAUSE
THEY'RE MOVING QUICKLY, THEY |
| 00:02:36 | NEED TO BRING IN WORKERS WHO
CAN HANDLE THE JOBS RIGHT AWAY. |
| 00:02:39 | >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN
INDUSTRY THAT IS REACHING THE |
| 00:02:46 | PINNACLE OF TECHNOLOGICAL
ADVANCES IN OIL AND GAS. |
| 00:02:48 | IT'S EQUIVALENT TO DRILLING OIL
AND GAS WELLS IN THE GULF OF |
| 00:02:50 | MEXICO.
YOU JUST DON'T HIRE PEOPLE |
| 00:02:53 | WHO'VE HAD TWO WEEKS OF
TRAINING AND PUT THEM ON THIS |
| 00:02:55 | RIG.
YOU HIRE PEOPLE WHO ARE |
| 00:02:58 | EQUIPPED AND READY TO DO THIS
KIND OF JOB AND YOU GET THEM |
| 00:03:00 | FROM WHERE THEY CAN BE SUPPLIED
TO. |
| 00:03:01 | >> AND STEWART SAYS OHIOANS ARE
BUILDING HOTELS, RESTAURANTS |
| 00:03:03 | AND OTHER BUSINESSES TO SERVE
THE WORKERS WITH THE OIL AND |
| 00:03:06 | GAS DRILLERS -- SO THOSE
COMPANIES ARE STIMULATING THE |
| 00:03:09 | STATE'S ECONOMY.
>> THE ECONOMIC MULTIPLIER IS |
| 00:03:13 | CREATING JOBS FAR, FAR BEYOND
WHAT WE'RE REGISTERING JUST |
| 00:03:17 | TODAY.
WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE. |
| 00:03:20 | WE NEED TO QUIT TALKING ABOUT
INVESTIGATING THAT. |
| 00:03:23 | >> MEANWHILE, THE GOVERNOR ALSO
SAYS HE'S WEIGHING WHETHER TO |
| 00:03:27 | PARTICIPATE IN THE INFLUENTIAL
WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM IN DAVOS, |
| 00:03:31 | SWITZERLAND IN JANUARY.
IT'S A GATHERING OF 2,500 WORLD |
| 00:03:35 | LEADERS IN GOVERNMENT,
BUSINESS, AND CHARITABLE CAUSES |
| 00:03:37 | THAT ROUTINELY ATTRACTS SOME OF
THE MOST POWERFUL AND FAMOUS |
| 00:03:40 | PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.
LAST YEAR'S WORLD ECONOMIC |
| 00:03:43 | FORUM BROUGHT IN FRENCH
PRESIDENT NICHOLAS SARKOSKY, |
| 00:03:49 | GERMAN CHANCELLOR ANGELA
MERKEL, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER |
| 00:03:54 | DAVID CAMERON, MEXICAN
PRESIDENT FELIPE CALDERON, |
| 00:03:57 | RUSSIAN PRIME MINISTER DMITRY
MEDVEDEV AND UN SECRETARY |
| 00:03:59 | GENERAL BAN KI-MOON.
ENTERTAINMENT FIGURES SUCH AS |
| 00:04:02 | ANGELINA JOLIE AND GEORGE
CLOONEY ALSO ATTEND, ALONG WITH |
| 00:04:05 | BUSINESS LEADERS.
KASICH SAYS HE HASN'T DECIDED |
| 00:04:08 | WHETHER TO ATTEND, BUT HE WILL
GO "IF IT CAN HELP THE STATE". |
| 00:04:11 | ANOTHER BUSY FEW SESSIONS FOR
THE LAME DUCK SESSION OF THE |
| 00:04:17 | LEGISLATURE, AS THE CLOCK TICKS
TOWARD THE END OF THE YEAR. |
| 00:04:19 | THE HOUSE MOVED THE STATE
CLOSER TO A VIRTUAL BAN ON |
| 00:04:22 | INTERNET CAFES THAT OFFER
COMPUTER GAMES THAT OPERATE LIKE |
| 00:04:25 | SLOT MACHINES WITH CASH PRIZES.
THE BILL CRACKS DOWN ON THE |
| 00:04:31 | STOREFRONT GAMBLING OPERATIONS
THAT HAVE SPROUTED UP ACROSS THE |
| 00:04:33 | STATE.
AND STATE REPRESENTATIVES ALSO |
| 00:04:36 | PASSED A BILL SETTING TRAINING
REQUIREMENTS FOR A THE |
| 00:04:38 | PROFESSIONALS WHO WILL BE HELP
GUIDE CONSUMERS THROUGH THE NEW |
| 00:04:41 | HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE.
AS PART OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE |
| 00:04:48 | ACT.
THE BILL REQUIRES THE SO-CALLED |
| 00:04:50 | HEALTH NAVIGATORS TO PASS
BACKGROUND CHECKS AND SPECIFIES |
| 00:04:52 | THEY CAN'T SELL HEALTH
INSURANCE. |
| 00:04:54 | IN THE SENATE, LAWMAKERS
APPROVED A COMPLICATED AND |
| 00:04:57 | TECHNICAL BILL DESIGNED TO CURB
DUPLICATE LAWSUITS OVER ON-THE- |
| 00:05:00 | JOB ASBESTOS EXPOSURE.
IT WOULD REQUIRE WORKERS TO |
| 00:05:04 | DIVULGE ALL ASBESTOS CLAIMS
FILED BY OR FACE PERJURY |
| 00:05:08 | CHARGES.
SUPPORTERS SAY THE BILL PREVENTS |
| 00:05:10 | DOUBLE-DIPPING.
OPPONENTS SAY IT IMPEDES |
| 00:05:12 | LEGITIMATE CLAIMS.
AND SENATORS ALSO APPROVED A |
| 00:05:16 | BILL REQUIRING HIGH SCHOOL
COACHES OR OFFICIALS TO REMOVE |
| 00:05:19 | A PLAYER FROM A GAME OR
PRACTICE IF THE ATHLETE SHOWS |
| 00:05:22 | SIGNS OF A CONCUSSION OR IS
SUSPECTED OF HAVING ONE. |
| 00:05:26 | A LAW LEGISLATORS ON BOTH SIDES
OF THE AISLE PASSED LAST SUMMER |
| 00:05:30 | WAS AIMED AT DECREASING THE
NUMBER OF INMATES IN OHIO'S |
| 00:05:33 | PRISONS AND SAVING TAXPAYERS
MONEY. |
| 00:05:35 | THE LAW TOOK EFFECT LAST
SEPTEMBER. |
| 00:05:38 | BUT AS WE HEAR FROM OHIO PUBLIC
RADIO AND TELEVISION SPECIAL |
| 00:05:41 | CORRESPONDENT MICHAEL LOCKLEAR,
THE LEGISLATION HASN'T WORKED |
| 00:05:44 | AS QUICKLY AS SOME HAD HOPED.
>> IT IS A TYPICAL MORNING AT |
| 00:05:55 | THIS
INMATES FILTER INTO A DINING |
| 00:05:58 | HALL FOR BREAKFAST.
THE STATE PAYS $80 A DAY TO |
| 00:06:03 | FEED, HOUSE, AND KEEP AN EYE ON
EACH OF THE CRIMINALS TO LIVE |
| 00:06:06 | HERE.
THOSE COSTS ADD UP AND A PART OF |
| 00:06:09 | THE REASON WHY LEGISLATURE'S
HAVE A LAW THEY SAY WILL SAVE |
| 00:06:15 | THE STATE MONEY.
BILL NELSON SPONSORED THE |
| 00:06:18 | LEGISLATION WHICH CLEARED THE
GENERAL ASSEMBLY NEARLY A YEAR |
| 00:06:23 | AND A HALF AGO.
HE SAYS OF THAT TIME, OHIO'S |
| 00:06:26 | PRISONS WERE 150,000 INMATES
OVER CAPACITY. |
| 00:06:32 | >> WHEN YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF
PRISON OVERCROWDING, IT IS NOT |
| 00:06:35 | ONLY EXPENSIVE.
IT IS DANGEROUS. |
| 00:06:37 | IT IS DANGEROUS TO THE GUARDS.
IT IS DANGEROUS TO THE LAW |
| 00:06:41 | ABIDING PRISONERS.
>> THE SENATOR SAYS THAT THE LAW |
| 00:06:49 | SHOULD SAVE HALF A BILLION
DOLLARS BY 2015, BUT IT IS HARD |
| 00:06:54 | TOH(s TELL HOW MUCH HAS BEEN SAD
SO FAR. |
| 00:06:57 | WE REACHED OUT FOR EARLY NUMBERS
ON SAVINGS AND HOW THE NUMBER OF |
| 00:07:02 | PRISONERS HAVE FLUCTUATED.
THEY SENT A STATEMENT THAT SAYS |
| 00:07:07 | "WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF
ANALYZING THE MOST RECENT DATA |
| 00:07:12 | AND ARE NOT PREPARED TO HAVE
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT AT THIS |
| 00:07:15 | TIME."
A TOP PRISON OFFICIAL DID GRANT |
| 00:07:19 | AN INTERVIEW TO A LINCOLN COUNTY
NEWSPAPER. |
| 00:07:22 | LINDA JAMES TOLD THE ADVOCATE
"WE CERTAINLY HAVE SEEN SOME |
| 00:07:26 | IMPACT THUS FAR, BUT NOT QUITE
WHAT WE ANTICIPATED." |
| 00:07:29 | THIS PRISON WAS DESIGNED TO
HOLD 150,000 INMATES. |
| 00:07:36 | TODAY, IT HOLDS ALMOST TWICE AS
MANY. |
| 00:07:39 | SELLS IT USED FOR ONE INMATE ARE
NOW OFTEN USED FOR TWO. |
| 00:07:45 | THE OVERCROWDING IS SIMILAR IN
OTHER PRISONS ACROSS OHIO. |
| 00:07:52 | THE POPULATION WAS NEARLY
50,000. |
| 00:07:59 | THAT IS 11,000 MORE THAN THE
SYSTEM IS SUPPOSED TO HOLD. |
| 00:08:03 | REDUCING THE POPULATION STARTS
IN THE COURTROOM. |
| 00:08:08 | CONVICTED CRIMINALS ARE SUPPOSED
TO BE SENTENCED TO ALTERNATIVE |
| 00:08:13 | FACILITIES INSTEAD OF PRISON.
THAT PART OF THE LAW HAS BEEN A |
| 00:08:17 | MIXED BAG FOR THIS JUDGE.
>> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE |
| 00:08:22 | DEALT WITH IN OUR COUNTY IS THEY
HAVE CLOSED OUR COMMUNITY-BASED |
| 00:08:27 | CORRECTIONAL FACILITY.
ON ONE HAND, THEY SAID DEAL WITH |
| 00:08:30 | THESE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY
FIRST. |
| 00:08:33 | NEWS LOCAL ACTIONS FIRST.
USE THOSE ALTERNATIVE SENTENCING |
| 00:08:39 | OPTIONS FIRST.
ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY SAID BY |
| 00:08:42 | THE WAY, WE HAVE TO CLOSE YOUR
COMMUNITY-BASED CORRECTIONAL |
| 00:08:47 | FACILITY.
>> JIM BUTLER IS ONE OF TWO |
| 00:08:51 | LAWMAKERS WHO VOTED AGAINST TO
THE FINAL VERSION OF THE BILL IN |
| 00:08:54 | THE HOUSE.
DID YOU NOT THINK IT WOULD HELP |
| 00:08:56 | WITH PRISON OVERCROWDING AND
SAVE THE STATE MONEY? |
| 00:08:59 | >> I ACTUALLY DID THINK IT
PROBABLY WOULD HELP WITH |
| 00:09:03 | OVERCROWDING AND SAVE THE STATE
MONEY, BUT IT WOULD COST MORE |
| 00:09:06 | MONEY FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS COME
UP BECAUSE FOR 4000 DEGREE -- |
| 00:09:12 | FOURTH AND FIFTH DEGREE FELONY,
THE OPTION OF SENDING SOMEONE TO |
| 00:09:15 | PRISON WITH NO LONGER BE THERE.
THE ONLY OPTION IS TO SEND THEM |
| 00:09:20 | TO JAIL.
>> COUNTY JAILS GET NO MONEY |
| 00:09:25 | FROM THE STATE.
OHIO DOES PAY FOR SOME LOCAL |
| 00:09:27 | DIVERSION PROGRAMS, BUT THAT
MONEY IS DRYING UP. |
| 00:09:30 | THAT LACK OF MONEY IS A CONCERN
FOR BOB CORNWALL. |
| 00:09:36 | HE SAYS IT IS TOO EARLY TO
ASSESS THE IMPACT ON COUNTY |
| 00:09:41 | JAILS.
HE SAYS IT COULD BE MINIMAL OR |
| 00:09:44 | DISASTERS.
>> IT IS NOW LAW. |
| 00:09:48 | >> GOV. JOHN K. SICK -- KASICH
SIGNED THE LAW AND IN JANUARY. |
| 00:09:57 | HE SAYS THE SLOW AND STEADY WINS
THE RACE AT. |
| 00:10:05 | >> STATS SHOW OHIO HAD MORE
INMATES THAN EXPECTED IN JULY. |
| 00:10:09 | THE LAW WAS PROJECTED TO
DECREASE THE PRISON POPULATION |
| 00:10:12 | TO 49,200 BY JULY 1.
BUT, THAT PROJECTION WAS OFF BY |
| 00:10:15 | MORE THAN 500.
AND THE STATEWIDE RESULTS OF THE |
| 00:10:19 | ELECTION OF 2012 ARE FINAL AND
CERTIFIED. |
| 00:10:20 | IT TURNS OUT THE MARGIN BETWEEN
PRESIDENT OBAMA AND MITT ROMNEY |
| 00:10:25 | WAS A BIT LARGER THAN FIRST
ESTIMATED -- THE INCUMBENT |
| 00:10:28 | DEMOCRAT BEAT THE REPUBLICAN BY
3 PERCENTAGE POINTS, NOT TWO. |
| 00:10:31 | THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO
WAS A LITTLE OVER 166-THOUSAND |
| 00:10:36 | VOTES.
THE GAP BETWEEN INCUMBENT |
| 00:10:39 | DEMOCRATIC US SENATOR SHERROD
BROWN AND REPUBLICAN STATE |
| 00:10:43 | TREASURER JOSH MANDEL WAS
ALMOST TWICE THAT, WITH BROWN |
| 00:10:44 | BEATING MANDEL BY NEARLY 327-
THOUSAND VOTES. |
| 00:10:48 | MORE THAN 5.6 MILLION OF THE
NEARLY 8 MILLION VOTERS IN OHIO |
| 00:10:55 | TURNED OUT -- THAT TRANSLATES
TO A 70 PERCENT TURNOUT. |
| 00:10:56 | THERE ARE STILL THREE STATE
HOUSE RACES THAT ARE UNDECIDED. |
| 00:11:00 | FROM THE CURRENT SECRETARY OF
STATE JON HUSTED TO HIS |
| 00:11:05 | PREDECESSOR -- JENNIFER BRUNNER
WAS THE FIRST WOMAN TO HOLD |
| 00:11:09 | THAT OFFICE, AND WHEN SHE WAS
ELECTED, SHE WAS JUST THE FIFTH |
| 00:11:12 | WOMAN EVER VOTED IN TO A
STATEWIDE EXECUTIVE OFFICE IN |
| 00:11:15 | OHIO.
SINCE SHE LEFT THE SECRETARY OF |
| 00:11:18 | STATE'S OFFICE, SHE'S WRITTEN A
BOOK, WHICH WAS RELEASED ABOUT |
| 00:11:20 | A MONTH BEFORE THE ELECTION.
IT'S A MEMOIR CALLED "CUPCAKES |
| 00:11:23 | AND COURAGE" -- THE LATTER WORD
HEARKENING BACK TO HER 2010 |
| 00:11:26 | CAMPAIGN FOR THE DEMOCRATIC
NOMINATION FOR US SENATE. |
| 00:11:28 | THE FIRST PART OF OUR
CONVERSATION AIRED LAST WEEK. |
| 00:11:32 | THIS WEEK, WE BEGIN WITH THAT
CAMPAIGN FOR US SENATE, WHEN |
| 00:11:35 | SHE RAN AGAINST THE PARTY
FAVORITE AND EVENTUAL PRIMARY |
| 00:11:38 | WINNER, LT. GOV. LEE FISHER.
>> WERE YOU EVER ASKED TO STEP |
| 00:11:46 | OUT OF THAT RACE?
>> NOT DIRECTLY. |
| 00:11:48 | THE CHIEF OF STAFF FOR THE
GOVERNOR ASKED THE ASSISTANT |
| 00:11:53 | SECRETARY OF STATE TO TELL ME TO
GET OUT OF THE RACE, AND SHE |
| 00:11:56 | TOLD THE CHIEF OF STAFF, THAT'S
A CONVERSATION THE GOVERNOR AND |
| 00:12:02 | JENNIFER HAVE TO HAVE TOGETHER.
IT NEVER HAPPENS. |
| 00:12:04 | SO, I ENDED UP FILING, THE EARLY
TO RUN FOR THE OFFICE AND IT IS |
| 00:12:12 | A GOOD THING THAT I DID, BECAUSE
THE PARTY ESTABLISHMENT WERE |
| 00:12:16 | SHOCKED THAT I HAD ACTUALLY DONE
AT. |
| 00:12:18 | I DO NOT KNOW WHY THEY WOULD
HAVE BEEN. |
| 00:12:22 | I QUIT MY JOB AS SECRETARY OF
STATE. |
| 00:12:25 | I HAD A TRACK RECORD OF DOING
RISKY THINGS, BUT I WAS REALLY |
| 00:12:29 | GOOD AT CALCULATING THOSE RISKS.
IN THIS RACE, THE SENATE RACE, |
| 00:12:34 | IT IS UNFORTUNATE WE DID NOT
FIGURE OUT A NEWER WAY TO |
| 00:12:38 | CAMPAIGN EARLIER.
WE PRETTY MUCH RAN OUT OF TIME. |
| 00:12:40 | AND KNOW THE GOVERNOR FELT LIKE
HE WAS GAINING MOMENTUM AND HE |
| 00:12:44 | FELT THAT HE RAN OUT OF TIME.
IT HAPPENS IN CAMPAIGNS. |
| 00:12:49 | >> WASN'T INTIMIDATING TO YOU
WHEN LEE FISHER MADE HIS -- WAS |
| 00:12:55 | IT INTIMIDATING TO YOU WHEN LEE
FISHER MADE HIS ANNOUNCEMENT AND |
| 00:12:58 | ALL THE DEMOCRATIC ESTABLISHMENT
WAS THERE? |
| 00:13:00 | THIS WAS AFTER YOU ANNOUNCED.
>> WE HAD SOMEONE THERE WITH THE |
| 00:13:06 | CAMERA FILMING THE WHOLE THING.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE SECRETARY OF |
| 00:13:10 | STATE'S OFFICE?
THAT WAS THE OFFICE YOU RAN IN |
| 00:13:14 | 2006 AND YOU WERE RUNNING THE
2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS. |
| 00:13:18 | THAT IS AN OFFICE THAT SEEMS TO
GET BLASTED EVERY SINGLE TIME |
| 00:13:22 | BECAUSE OF OHIO'S ROLE AS A KEY
BATTLEGROUND STATE. |
| 00:13:26 | JOHN HUSTED IS NOW HEARING
COMPLAINTS. |
| 00:13:36 | IS THIS AN OFFICE WHERE YOU CAN
DO ANYTHING RIGHT? |
| 00:13:39 | YOU EVEN TOOK HEAT FOR WHAT YEAR
DID. |
| 00:13:41 | >> YOU ARE THE REFEREE AND THE
REFEREE IS THE LEAST POPULAR |
| 00:13:46 | PERSON IN THE GAME.
THERE TIMES WHEN THE LEFT WAS |
| 00:13:50 | MAD AT ME, THE BRIDE WAS MAD ME,
THE SENATE WAS MAD AT ME. |
| 00:13:55 | THERE WERE POINTS WHEN I THOUGHT
-- I WILL NEVER GET REELECTED, |
| 00:14:00 | SO I WILL DO THE BEST I CAN AND
NOT WORRY ABOUT. |
| 00:14:04 | I AM SURE THE SECRETARY HAS FELT
THAT WAY. |
| 00:14:06 | >> YOU RECEIVED MULTIPLE DEATH
THREATS. |
| 00:14:10 | YOU HAD PEOPLE GUARDING YOU
BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE |
| 00:14:13 | COMMUNICATIONS YOU WERE GETTING.
>> I DID. |
| 00:14:15 | I SAW SOME OF MY FORMER STAFF
AFTER THE ELECTION AND I SAID IT |
| 00:14:20 | "HOW DID IT GO THIS YEAR?"
AND THEY WERE LIKE, WELL, SAME |
| 00:14:29 | OLD.
I SAID, DID YOU GET ANY DEATH |
| 00:14:35 | THREATS?
AND THEY SAID THAT THEY GOT |
| 00:14:37 | CALLS THAT THEY SHOULD DIE.
THERE WERE NO GUARDS THIS YEAR. |
| 00:14:45 | YOU COULD NOT ASK FOR BETTER
PEOPLE THAN THE HIGHWAY PATROL, |
| 00:14:49 | BUT IT IS NO WAY TO LIVE.
>> THERE ARE REPUBLICANS |
| 00:14:52 | CLAIMING OF VOTER FRAUD.
DEMOCRATS CLAIMING VOTERS |
| 00:14:56 | OPPRESSION.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE |
| 00:14:59 | CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE MATTER WHAT
THEY DO? |
| 00:15:02 | >> GENERALLY -- AND I THINK THAT
SECRETARY HUSTED WOULD AGREE |
| 00:15:10 | WITH ME -- DEMOCRATS THINK YOU
ARE KEEPING PEOPLE FROM VOTING. |
| 00:15:14 | REPUBLICANS ARE SURE THAT YOU
ARE LETTING PEOPLE VOTE WHO DO |
| 00:15:18 | NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
IN MY TIME, FOX NEWS WAS AFTER |
| 00:15:22 | ME.
SECRETARY HUSTED, MSNBC IS AFTER |
| 00:15:31 | HIM.
>> YOU HAD PEOPLE ON THE LEFT |
| 00:15:34 | SAYING YOU COULD DO THINGS
DIFFERENTLY AND PUSH IT FURTHER |
| 00:15:37 | TO THEIR SIDE.
YOU ARE NOT FREE OF CRITICISM ON |
| 00:15:41 | EITHER SIDE.
>> IN 2008, THE ACLU WAS SUING |
| 00:15:47 | ME BECAUSE ONE COUNTY WAS
TRANSITIONING TO PAPER BALLOTS, |
| 00:15:52 | BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO MUCH
CHANGE TO SAM. |
| 00:15:56 | IT WAS TENSE.
>> HOW YOU THINK WHAT YOU WROTE |
| 00:16:02 | IN A BOOK ABOUT THE ELECTION IS
BEING RECEIVED? |
| 00:16:05 | >> I HAVE RUN INTO PEOPLE I
NEVER MET WHO SAID THEY REALLY |
| 00:16:09 | LIKED THE BOOK, IT WAS A GOOD
READ. |
| 00:16:11 | I THINK THE RANK AND FILE
EVERYDAY PEOPLE -- IT IS GOOD |
| 00:16:16 | FOR THEM TO SEE WHAT REALLY GOES
ON INSIDE OF THE WHOLE POLITICAL |
| 00:16:19 | WORLD.
NOT JUST IN STATE GOVERNMENT, |
| 00:16:23 | BUT IN THE POLITICAL PARTIES AND
CAMPAIGNS. |
| 00:16:26 | SO FEW WOMEN HAVE RUN FOR THE
HIGHER OFFICERS -- OFFICES LIKE |
| 00:16:32 | U.S. SENATE OR GOVERNOR THAT IT
IS IMPORTANT FOR YOUNG PEOPLE OF |
| 00:16:35 | ASPIRING TO DO THAT IN THE LONG
TERM TO SEE WHAT IS DOWN THE |
| 00:16:41 | ROAD AND TO HUMANIZE.
THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF TIMES |
| 00:16:45 | WHEN I MAY TALK ABOUT WHAT I WAS
WEARING, A BAD HAIR DAY. |
| 00:16:48 | THIS IS WHAT WOMEN HAVE TO DEAL
WITH MORE THAN MEN. |
| 00:16:52 | >> AND WOMEN GET CRITICIZED AND
COMPLIMENTED FOR THESE THINGS |
| 00:16:56 | MORE THAN MEN DO.
>> IF YOU ARE SPEAKING BEFORE AN |
| 00:17:00 | AUDIENCE, THERE WILL BE WOMEN
AND MEN LOOKING YOU UP AND DOWN, |
| 00:17:04 | MAKING SURE YOU ARE PUT TOGETHER
WELL. |
| 00:17:06 | WHEN THEY ARE CONVINCED THAT YOU
ARE PUT TOGETHER WELL, THEN THEY |
| 00:17:09 | WILL LISTEN TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO
SAID. |
| 00:17:12 | IT IS A REALITY YOU HAVE TO DEAL
WITH AND TO GO ON. |
| 00:17:15 | >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT ONE OF
THE GROUP'S THAT THOUGHT YOU |
| 00:17:20 | DID A TERRIFIC JOB IN 2008.
THE KENNEDY FAMILY. |
| 00:17:27 | YOU GOT A PROFILE IN COURAGE
AWARD FOR THAT. |
| 00:17:31 | WHAT IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP LIKE
WITH THE KENNEDY FAMILY? |
| 00:17:35 | ARE YOU CLOSE WITH THEM?
DID THEY HELP LAUNCH YOUR SENATE |
| 00:17:41 | BID?
>> CAROLINE KENNEDY ACTUALLY |
| 00:17:42 | HELD A FUND-RAISER FOR IN HER
APARTMENT IN NEW YORK. |
| 00:17:49 | I WAS SHOCKED TO THAT I WAS THE
FIRST NON-FAMILY CANDIDATE THAT |
| 00:17:53 | SHE HAD HAD A FUND-RAISER FOR IN
HER APARTMENT. |
| 00:17:56 | THEY INVITE ME BACK TO THE
KENNEDY LIBRARY. |
| 00:18:00 | MY NAME IS ON THE WALL THERE,
WHICH IS GREAT FOR THE STATE OF |
| 00:18:04 | OHIO.
I AM A CONTRIBUTOR TO THE |
| 00:18:06 | KENNEDY INSTITUTE WHICH IS
FOCUSED ON POLICY AND POLITICS. |
| 00:18:11 | THAT WILL BE OPEN, I THINK,
MAYBE LATER THIS YEAR. |
| 00:18:15 | THERE ARE THOSE ON THE -- >>
THERE ARE THOSE ON THE LEFT THAT |
| 00:18:20 | DO NOT LIKE YOUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH JOHN KASICH. |
| 00:18:25 | THEY ARE CONFUSED HOW YOU ENDED
UP WORKING WITH HIM ON CERTAIN |
| 00:18:30 | ISSUES.
>> I WAS AT A LUNCH AND I GOT A |
| 00:18:34 | SEAT CLOSER TO THE PODIUM
PROBABLY EVEN AND THE GOVERNOR |
| 00:18:38 | DID, AND I LISTENED TO HIM TALK.
I REMEMBERED WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO |
| 00:18:42 | BE CONTINUALLY CRITICIZED BY
EVERYONE WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO |
| 00:18:46 | MAKE CHANGE QUICKLY.
I HAD 22 MONTHS TO CLEAN UP A |
| 00:18:53 | PRETTY BAD OR BADLY-PERCEIVED
ELECTION PROCESS IN THE OHIO. |
| 00:18:58 | I DID SEE THAT HE WAS FACING
SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES. |
| 00:19:01 | I SAW A GENUINE DESIRE TO TRY TO
DO SOMETHING GOOD. |
| 00:19:04 | NOW, CLEARLY PEOPLE IN MY PARTY
AND EVEN I DO NOT AGREE WITH |
| 00:19:10 | EVERYTHING HE DOES AND HE
CERTAINLY WOULD NOT AGREE WITH |
| 00:19:14 | MY STANCE AND EVERYTHING'S.
BUT WHERE WE CAN FIND COMMON |
| 00:19:18 | GROUND AS PUBLIC-SERVICE.
WHEN YOU GET INTO OFFICE, IT |
| 00:19:21 | DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE A
DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN OR |
| 00:19:25 | INDEPENDENT OR LIBERTARIAN, IF
YOU ARE THERE TO SERVE THE |
| 00:19:29 | PEOPLE, WHAT GOVERNMENT IS
THEREFORE, THEN WHO CARES? |
| 00:19:32 | IF I CAN BE IN PUBLIC SERVICE
NOW EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT BEING |
| 00:19:37 | PAID BY THE STATE GOVERNMENT,
WHY NOT? |
| 00:19:39 | >> YOU JUST SAID YOU WERE
CLEANING OUT OF BAD OR BADLY- |
| 00:19:43 | PERCEIVED MESS.
WAS IT BAD FOR A BADLY-PERCEIVED |
| 00:19:51 | MESS?
>> ON THE BUSINESS SIDE IT WAS |
| 00:19:55 | IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.
ON THE ELECTIONS ASIDE, IT WAS |
| 00:19:59 | IN NEED OF A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT.
>> DO YOU FEEL YOU LOVE THE |
| 00:20:02 | OPPOSITE WAY YOU WANTED TO LEAVE
IT FOR JOHN HUSTED? |
| 00:20:07 | >> I DID.
WHEN I MET WITH HIM, WE HAVE |
| 00:20:16 | ABOUNDED NOTEBOOK THAT LAID OUT
EVERYTHING HE NEEDED TO KNOW |
| 00:20:20 | ABOUT THE OFFICE -- OF BEEN
AROUND -- A BOUND NOTEBOOK THAT |
| 00:20:29 | LAID OUT EVERYTHING HE NEEDED TO
KNOW ABOUT THE OFFICE. |
| 00:20:31 | THAT IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
IT DOES NOT BELONG TO THE STATE |
| 00:20:35 | OF OHIO KEEPING IT BELONGS TO
THE TAXPAYERS. |
| 00:20:38 | >> YOU RIGHTS REPEATEDLY THAT
YOU THINK THE SYSTEM CAN BE |
| 00:20:43 | CHANGED.
WHAT DO YOU THINK CAN BE |
| 00:20:48 | CHANGED?
>> I MEAN IT PEOPLE'S ACCESS TO |
| 00:20:51 | BE ABLE TO CAMPAIGN, TO SERVE IN
OFFICE. |
| 00:20:56 | SERVING IN OFFICE IS NOT
SOMETHING PEOPLE DO AS A |
| 00:20:59 | LIFETIME CAREER BECAUSE IT
REQUIRES A LOT OF SACRIFICE. |
| 00:21:02 | ON YOUR PART, YOUR FAMILY'S
PART. |
| 00:21:06 | YOU GO IN.
YOU DO YOUR PART. |
| 00:21:08 | IF YOU THINK ABOUT DEMOCRACY, IT
IS THE ONLY TYPE OF GOVERNMENT |
| 00:21:12 | WERE YOU PEACEABLY AND OF THE
GOVERNMENT WHOLESALE FROM ONE |
| 00:21:15 | GROUP OF PEOPLE TO ANOTHER.
WE HAVE A CERTAIN BEDROCK IN |
| 00:21:19 | PLACE, BUT IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE
TO PARTICIPATE, AND I MEAN A |
| 00:21:24 | DIVERSITY OF PEOPLE WE'RE
STARTING TO SEE IN THE UNITED |
| 00:21:27 | STATES, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IS
NOT TOO TIGHTLY HELD BY A SMALL |
| 00:21:32 | COBOL OR GROUP AT THE TOP -- A
SMALL CABAL OR GROUP AT THE TOP. |
| 00:21:42 | WE HAVE TO DO THINGS TECHNOLOGY-
WISE TO COMMUNICATE. |
| 00:21:47 | IS REALLY ABOUT COMMUNICATION.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT CITIZENS UNITED |
| 00:21:52 | AND SEE ALL THE MONEY THAT WENT
INTO IT, ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS |
| 00:21:58 | ABOUT ALL THESE BUSINESSES
CONTRIBUTING IS THEY REALIZE |
| 00:22:03 | THEY DID NOT MAKE A GOOD
INVESTMENT. |
| 00:22:04 | THEY ARE NOT HAPPY WITH KARL
ROVE RIGHT NOW. |
| 00:22:07 | I AM NOT SURE YOU WILL SEE THE
SAME MODEL. |
| 00:22:10 | IF YOU GET THIS DATA INTO THE
HANDS OF A WIDE GROUP OF PEOPLE, |
| 00:22:16 | YOU WILL SEE CHANGE.
>> YOU SAID THAT YOU RAN FOR |
| 00:22:19 | OFFICE BECAUSE YOUR PASSION AS
THEIR. |
| 00:22:22 | YOU ADVOCATE FOR WHAT YOU CALL
"INDIVIDUAL POLITICAL |
| 00:22:28 | EMPOWERMENT," WHICH IS WHAT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE |
| 00:22:31 | THOUGH, I TAKE.
SOME WOULD SAY THE UNIONS WERE A |
| 00:22:35 | BIG PART OF YOUR CAMPAIGN.
THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY WORKING |
| 00:22:40 | AGAINST THAT IDEA INDIVIDUAL
EMPOWERMENT AND RESPONSIBILITY |
| 00:22:44 | AND SUCCESS.
>> I DO NOT SEE THAT AT ALL. |
| 00:22:48 | YOU CANNOT THROW ALL THE UNIONS
IN THE SAME BACK THE BANKS ARE |
| 00:22:53 | DIFFERENTLY STRUCTURED.
THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PURPOSES. |
| 00:22:55 | TAKING THE BUILDING TRADES.
THEY OFTEN PARTNER WITH THE |
| 00:23:00 | EMPLOYERS TO ACTUALLY GET A JOB,
WHETHER IT IS FROM PRIVATE |
| 00:23:04 | SECTOR OR A UNIVERSITY OR, FOR
INSTANCE, THE CITY OF CLEVELAND. |
| 00:23:09 | THE THING ABOUT UNIONS IS THAT
CORPORATIONS EXIST TO MAKE A |
| 00:23:16 | PROFIT.
UNIONS EXIST TO REPRESENT THEIR |
| 00:23:19 | MEMBERS.
I CANNOT SAY THAT EVERY UNION |
| 00:23:21 | LEADER HAS DONE THAT AS THEY
SHOULD HAVE, BUT NOT EVERY |
| 00:23:25 | CORPORATION HAS ACTED AS A GOOD
CORPORATE CITIZEN EITHER, AND WE |
| 00:23:28 | ARE ALL PEOPLE.
UNIONS, OF ALL THINGS, IN THEIR |
| 00:23:34 | ESSENCE, ARE REALLY TO PROTECT
THE RIGHTS OF INDIVIDUALS. |
| 00:23:37 | >> A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY
WRITE ABOUT OHIO POLITICS, THEY |
| 00:23:43 | RIDE FROM A PULLED -- THEY WRITE
IT FROM A POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE. |
| 00:23:50 | WHEREAS YOUR BOOK DOES NOT SEEM
TO BE THAT'S -- THAT |
| 00:23:56 | PROGRESSIVE.
YOU ARE KNOWN AS A PROGRESSIVE. |
| 00:23:59 | WHY DID YOU NOT WRITE A MORE
PROGRESSIVE BOOK? |
| 00:24:02 | >> EVEN WHEN YOU GET A PARTY
THAT HAS ALL THE WINDOW DRESSING |
| 00:24:08 | THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 1
MILLION E-MAILS -- WE KNOW |
| 00:24:15 | EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PEEPING
THAT SCARES ME TO DEATH WHEN I |
| 00:24:18 | DID THAT.
REAL PROGRESSIVISM IS ALLOWING |
| 00:24:22 | PEOPLE TO MAKE PROGRESS.
LIBERALISM IS IT EXPENSIVE. |
| 00:24:25 | THERE IS THE GREAT JOHN F.
KENNEDY SPEECH ABOUT "BY 8 AM |
| 00:24:31 | PROUD TO BE A LIBERAL." |
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