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00:00:00>> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
BROADCAST OF "THE STATE OF OHIO"
00:00:02COMES FROM THE LAW OFFICES OF
PORTER, WRIGHT, MORRIS & ARTHUR
00:00:04LLP., HELPING BUSINESSES AND
INDIVIDUALS SOLVE COMPLEX LEGAL
00:00:08PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT OHIO, ACROSS
THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD
00:00:12-- ON THE WEB AT
PORTERWRIGHT.COM.
00:00:14AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
00:00:21120,000 TEACHERS, SUPPORT
-- WHO INSPIRED THEIR STUDENTS
00:00:29TO THINK CREATIVELY.
ONLINE AT OHEA.ORG.
00:00:31>> A DEMOCRAT COMES FORWARD TO
GET THE CAMPAIGN FOR U.S. SENATE
00:00:33NEXT YEAR GOING.
AND GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH'S THIRD
00:00:34BUDGET IS DUE OUT IN LESS THAN
TWO WEEKS.
00:00:37AND AMONG THOSE ANXIOUSLY
AWAITING THAT SPENDING BLUEPRINT
00:00:39ARE STATE LAWMAKERS, LOBBYISTS
AND ADVOCATES -- INCLUDING THOSE
00:00:41WHO WORK WITH PEOPLE IN SOCIAL
SAFETY NET PROGRAMS.
00:00:44I'LL TALK TO THREE OF THEM THIS
WEEK IN "THE STATE OF OHIO."
00:00:56THE U.S. SENATE CAMPAIGN OF 2016
IS REALLY MOVING FORWARD NOW --
00:01:00A DEMOCRAT HAS ANNOUNCED HE'S IN
THE RACE.
00:01:08CINCINNATI CITY COUNCILMAN P.G.
SITTENFELD ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK
00:01:10THAT HE WANTS TO TAKE ON
INCUMBENT REPUBLICAN ROB
00:01:11PORTMAN, WHO HAS SAID HE'S
SEEKING A SECOND TERM.
00:01:13SITTENFELD IS A SECOND-TERM
CINCINNATI CITY COUNCILMAN, AND
00:01:16SAYS HIS ISSUES WILL BE WORKING
TO LOWER COLLEGE DEBT,
00:01:19INCREASING RETIREMENT SECURITY,
RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE, EQUAL
00:01:21PAY FOR EQUAL WORK, AND
REJECTING WHAT HE CALLS BAD
00:01:25TRADE DEALS THAT PORTMAN
CHAMPIONED.
00:01:28PORTMAN SAYS HE EXPECTS A
COMPETITIVE RACE AND THAT HE'S
00:01:35PROUD OF HIS RECORD, AND HAS
ALSO SAID HE HAS $5.8 MILLION IN
00:01:36HIS CAMPAIGN WAR CHEST.
SITTENFELD MAY HAVE A PRIMARY
00:01:38OPPONENT, THOUGH.
THE FIELD OF CANDIDATES WHO MAY
00:01:40BE INTERESTED IN RUNNING FOR THE
DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION INCLUDE
00:01:42FORMER GOVERNOR TED STRICKLAND,
FORMER U.S. REPRESENTATIVE BETTY
00:01:50SUTTON OF THE AKRON AREA AND
CURRENT CONGRESSMAN TIM RYAN OF
00:01:52YOUNGSTOWN AND PERHAPS EVEN
COLUMBUS MAYOR MICHAEL COLEMAN,
00:01:54WHO'S NOT RUNNING FOR
RE-ELECTION BUT HAS SAID SEVERAL
00:01:56TIMES HE'S NOT THINKING ABOUT A
CAMPAIGN FOR U.S. SENATE.
00:01:59THE STATE WANTS A FEDERAL JUDGE
TO DISMISS A LAWSUIT FILED BY
00:02:03FOUR DEATH ROW INMATES WHO ARE
CHALLENGING A LAW THAT SHIELDS
00:02:06THE NAMES OF COMPANIES THAT MAKE
DRUGS FOR LETHAL INJECTIONS.
00:02:09THE INMATES, REPRESENTED BY
CLEVELAND ATTORNEY TIM SWEENEY,
00:02:13SAY THE LAW VIOLATES FREE SPEECH
RIGHTS, AND THEY'VE ASKED THE
00:02:16JUDGE TO STOP THE LAW FROM
TAKING EFFECT IN MARCH.
00:02:19THE STATE RESPONDED IN A FILING
THIS WEEK THAT NOTHING IN THE
00:02:21LAW VIOLATES PRISONERS' FIRST
AMENDMENT RIGHTS OR AFFECTS
00:02:25THEIR ABILITY TO ARGUE THE ISSUE
IN COURT.
00:02:27THE LAW WAS PASSED DURING THE
LAME DUCK SESSION OF THE
00:02:30LEGISLATURE LAST MONTH, WITH THE
GOAL OF RESTARTING EXECUTIONS IN
00:02:32OHIO.
BUT THE PRISONS DEPARTMENT HAS
00:02:37SAID THAT WON'T HAPPEN UNTIL MAY
AT THE EARLIEST.
00:02:40THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN POLICE
OFFICERS AND THE COMMUNITIES
00:02:42THEY SERVE IS THE SUBJECT OF A
NEW TASK FORCE THAT HELD ITS
00:02:44FIRST MEETING AT CLEVELAND STATE
UNIVERSITY THIS WEEK.
00:02:48THE 18-PERSON COMMITTEE OF CITY
COUNCIL MEMBERS, RELIGIOUS
00:02:50LEADERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICIALS WAS PUT TOGETHER BY
00:02:54GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH AFTER A
NUMBER OF FATAL POLICE-INVOLVED
00:02:57SHOOTINGS IN OHIO AND ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
00:03:00A TASK FORCE IS TO ISSUE A
REPORT IN MAY.
00:03:03A RELATED TASK FORCE CREATED BY
ATTORNEY GENERAL MIKE DEWINE
00:03:06WILL RECOMMEND POSSIBLE CHANGES
TO THE WAY OHIO TRAINS OFFICERS
00:03:10IN THE USE OF FORCE.
AND NOW THAT GOVERNOR KASICH'S
00:03:14SECOND INAUGURATION IS OVER, WE
SHOULD KNOW SOON WHEN AND WHERE
00:03:17HE'LL DELIVER HIS STATE OF THE
STATE ADDRESS.
00:03:19AN ANNOUNCEMENT IS EXPECTED
SHORTLY, WITH A DATE LIKELY IN
00:03:21MID TO LATE FEBRUARY.
KASICH HAS ONLY DONE ONE STATE
00:03:24OF THE STATE SPEECH IN THE
STATEHOUSE -- HIS FIRST ONE.
00:03:27SINCE THEN, HE'S TAKEN THE
ANNUAL SPEECH TO A JOINT SESSION
00:03:30OF THE OHIO HOUSE AND SENATE TO
STEUBENVILLE, LIMA, AND MEDINA.
00:03:37YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE SPEECH
ON MOST OF OHIO'S PUBLIC
00:03:40TELEVISION STATIONS, AND HEAR IT
ON MANY OHIO PUBLIC RADIO
00:03:41STATIONS AS WELL.
FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW, WE'VE
00:03:43BEEN HEARING GOVERNOR KASICH SAY
THINGS ABOUT HELPING PEOPLE WHO
00:03:46-- QUOTING HIM HERE -- "LIVE IN
THE SHADOWS".
00:03:50>> THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER AND
MR. PRESIDENT FOR YOUR HELP ON
00:03:56GETTING THOSE RESOURCES HERE FOR
THE MENTALLY ILL.
00:04:02BUT YOU KNOW, ANOTHER GROUP OF
PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE SHADOWS
00:04:05ARE THOSE WHO ARE ADDICTS.
ECONOMIC GROWTH REVISED THE
00:04:10MEANS WHEREBY WE CAN REACH OUT
AND HELP THOSE WHO LIVE IN THE
00:04:11SHADOWS.
>> KASICH HAS DEFINED THOSE
00:04:17PEOPLE WHO "LIVE IN THE SHADOWS"
AS DRUG ADDICTS, THE
00:04:19DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED AND THE
MENTALLY ILL -- PEOPLE HE'S SAID
00:04:21CAN BE HELPED BY THE EXPANSION
OF MEDICAID, WHICH WILL BE A
00:04:23CONTINUING BATTLE BETWEEN THE
GOVERNOR AND THE LEGISLATURE.
00:04:25BUT HE'S ALSO TALKED EXTENSIVELY
ABOUT HOW HE FEELS THAT EVERYONE
00:04:27SHOULD SHARE IN WHAT HE CALLS
THE STATE'S GROWING ECONOMIC
00:04:29PROSPERITY.
KASICH HAS SAID IF THE ECONOMY
00:04:35IS DOING WELL, IT'S A MEANS TO
AN END TO RAISE EVERYONE, AND
00:04:37THAT HE DOESN'T WANT ANYONE TO
BE LEFT BEHIND.
00:04:40THESE ARE POTENTIALLY HINTS TO
WHAT GOVERNOR KASICH MIGHT HAVE
00:04:45IN HIS BUDGET, WHICH HE'LL
RELEASE IN LESS THAN TWO WEEKS.
00:04:47HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY
HOPE TO SEE IN THE BUDGET ARE
00:04:49THREE ADVOCATES FOR THE SOCIAL
SAFETY NET.
00:04:52LISA HAMLER FUGITT IS THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE OHIO
00:04:54ASSOCIATION OF FOOD BANKS.
TERRY RUSSELL IS THE EXECUTIVE
00:04:57DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL
ALLIANCE FOR THE MENTALLY ILL OF
00:05:00OHIO, ALSO KNOWN AS NAMI OHIO.
AND JACK FRECH WAS THE EXECUTIVE
00:05:04DIRECTOR OF ATHENS COUNTY JOB
AND FAMILY SERVICES.
00:05:08HE RETIRED AT THE END OF LAST
YEAR, BUT PLANS TO CONTINUE TO
00:05:10ADVOCATE FOR LOW-INCOME OHIOANS
EVEN IN HIS RETIREMENT.
00:05:14HE JOINS US THROUGH THE
FACILITIES OF WOUB IN ATHENS.
00:05:20THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR
BEING AIR.
00:05:23JACK, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR
RETIREMENT AS WELL.
00:05:24>> THANK YOU, KAREN.
>> LET'S START BY TALKING ABOUT
00:05:32THE NEEDS AND THE POPULATION TO
SERVE AND WHERE THOSE NEEDS ARE,
00:05:35WHERE THEY COME FROM IN THE LAST
TWO YEARS SINCE THE LAST BUDGET.
00:05:39LISA, I WILL START WITH YOU.
>> THE DEMAND GOES UP FOR THE
00:05:45EMERGENCY FOOD TANKS.
THE DEMAND IS UP BY MORE THAN
00:05:4940%.
WHILE HALF OF THOSE WE SERVE ARE
00:05:53WORKING, THEY ARE WORKING AND
LOW-WAGE, PART-TIME, CONTINGENT
00:05:57JOBS, TRYING TO PIECE TOGETHER
WHAT HOURS THEY CAN, BUT THEY
00:06:01STILL LIVE IN POVERTY.
THEY ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF
00:06:05WORK SUPPORT PROGRAMS, INCLUDING
MEDICAID, CHILDCARE, AND FOOD
00:06:09ASSISTANCE.
>> YOU HAVE A MAP YOU SHARED
00:06:16WITH ME THAT WILL SHOW US HOW IT
IS KIND OF CREEPING AROUND THE
00:06:17STATE.
THAT THIS NEED IS GROWING.
00:06:20>> ABSOLUTELY.
WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE IN 72
00:06:25COUNTIES OF OHIOANS LIVING IN
HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE AT OR BELOW
00:06:32200% OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY
LEVEL.
00:06:3434% OF ALL OHIOANS DO NOT EARN A
WAGE THAT BRINGS THEM TO A
00:06:39SELF-SUFFICIENCY STANDARD.
>> JACK, SINCE YOU DEAL WITH
00:06:43SOME OF THE SAME POPULATION THAT
LISA DOES, I'M GOING TO BRING
00:06:46YOU IN NOW, TELL ME ABOUT SOME
OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE SEEN ON
00:06:51THE JOB IN ATHENS COUNTY.
>> I SEE A CONTINUATION OF THIS
00:06:56TREND WHERE WE HAVE REDUCED THE
SUPPORT THAT WE OFFER THROUGH
00:07:00THE SAFETY NET IN TERMS OF CASH
ASSISTANCE, OR EVEN FOOD STAMPS,
00:07:06SO PEOPLE ARE CONSIDERABLY WORSE
OFF NOW THAN THEY WERE THREE OR
00:07:09FOUR YEARS AGO.
YOU KNOW IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE
00:07:12GOVERNOR HAS MISSED THE FACT
OVER THE LAST FOUR MONTHS AS
00:07:15THEY HAVE THROWN 100,000 PEOPLE
OFF CASH ASSISTANCE, AND THEY
00:07:20ARE IN THE PROCESS OF THROWING
THOUSANDS MORE OFF FOOD STAMPS
00:07:22AND THESE FAMILIES AND
INDIVIDUALS HAVE NOT GONE OUT
00:07:25AND GOTTEN LIVING WAGE JOBS.
MOST OF THEM HAVE NOT GOTTEN
00:07:31JOBS AT ALL.
THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE IN OHIO
00:07:34WHO LIVE ON FOOD STAMPS THAT
HAVE NO CASH INCOME AT ALL HAS
00:07:37CONTINUED TO GROW THROUGH THIS
WHOLE TIME AND CURRENTLY ONE OUT
00:07:41OF EVERY FIVE PEOPLE ON FOOD
STAMPS HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CASH
00:07:44INCOME.
ALL OF THIS IS ALSO MAKING A
00:07:49HUGE REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT OF
MONEY GOING TO LOW INCOME
00:07:51COMMUNITIES.
IT HAS NOT JUST BEEN THE CUTS AT
00:07:57THE STATE LEVEL ON CASH
ASSISTANCE, BUT DURING THIS
00:07:58WHOLE TIME THERE HAVE BEEN
ADDITIONAL CUTS IN THE FOOD
00:08:01STAMP PROGRAM AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL AND BETWEEN THE TWO OF
00:08:04THOSE, LOW INCOME FAMILIES HAVE
LOST OVER $600 MILLION COMPARED
00:08:09TO WHAT THEY USED TO RECEIVE,
EVEN THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.
00:08:11THAT HAS JUST BEEN A HUGE, HUGE
LOSS AND NOTHING THE GOVERNOR IS
00:08:17TALKING ABOUT WILL BEGIN TO
REPLACE THAT.
00:08:18>> TERRY, I WANT TO BRING U.N.
NOW.
00:08:24THERE IS SOME OVERLAP IN THESE
POPULATIONS, BUT USED
00:08:25RECIPROCALLY BEST USE
SPECIFICALLY ADVOCATE FOR PEOPLE
00:08:31WITH MENTAL ILLNESS.
TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
00:08:32>> FOR SEVERAL YEARS, MENTAL
ILLNESS IS ALWAYS BEEN A
00:08:37STEPCHILD BECAUSE OF THE STIGMA
ASSOCIATED WITH ILLNESS, THE
00:08:41MISINFORMATION OUT THERE.
A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE
00:08:45OTHER TWO GUESTS.
THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE
00:08:48BEEN GOOD FOR MENTAL HEALTH.
WE HAVE DEVELOPED HOUSING, WORK
00:08:51PROGRAM STASH NOT NEARLY ENOUGH.
NOT EVEN CLOSE, BUT I HAVE BEEN
00:08:54IN BUSINESS FOR 43 YEARS AND I
CAN SAY IT HAS BEEN THE BEST OF
00:09:00SOMETHING THAT IS NOT VERY GOOD
IN THE FIRST PLACE.
00:09:03BUT THERE IS SO MUCH WORK TO BE
DONE.
00:09:05WHEN WE LOOK AT THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET COMING OUT IN A COUPLE
00:09:07WEEKS, IT IS OUR PRAYER THAT HE
CONTINUES TO CB GROSSLY
00:09:13UNDERFUNDED -- TWO CV GROSSLY
UNDERFUNDED SYSTEM AND CONTINUES
00:09:18TO PROVIDE CARE FOR THIS VERY
VULNERABLE POPULATION.
00:09:20>> YOU THINK HIS CONVERSATIONS
AND BRINGING THE MENTALLY ILL
00:09:24INTO THE SPEECHES, HAS THAT
HELPED AT ALL QUESTION MARK YOU
00:09:27TALKED ABOUT THE STIGMA.
HAS THAT HELPED ELIMINATE SOME
00:09:29OF THAT?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
00:09:33THE LAP OF PUBLIC SUPPORT FROM
THE POLICYMAKERS IS BECAUSE
00:09:36MENTAL HEALTH HAS ALWAYS BEEN
LOOKED DOWN UPON AND KIND OF IN
00:09:38THE BACK ROOM.
BY HAVING LEADERSHIP START
00:09:43TALKING ABOUT IT, THE MEDICATED
ENGINE -- MEDICAID EXPANSION WAS
00:09:49EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR THOSE
WITH MENTAL ILLNESS.
00:09:50PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO ARE
FAIRLY HIGH FUNCTIONING.
00:09:55IN THE JOBS THEY COULD GET, THEY
WOULD LOSE THEM MANY TIMES
00:09:58BECAUSE OF THE LAP OF HEALTH
INSURANCE, NOT BEING ABLE TO GET
00:10:00THEIR TREATMENT -- THE LACK OF
HEALTH INSURANCE, NOT BEING ABLE
00:10:07TO GET THEIR TREATMENT.
NOW THEY CAN WORK AND CONTINUE
00:10:09TO WORK.
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND.
00:10:11YOU HEAR EVERYBODY TALKING ABOUT
CONSERVATISM, CONSERVATISM.
00:10:16THAT'S FINE.
BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
00:10:20CONSERVATISM YOU USUALLY HEAR
ABOUT WORK AND BEING ABLE TO BE
00:10:21PART OF THE SOCIETY AND BECAUSE
OF MEDICAID EXPANSION WE HAVE
00:10:27MANY, MANY THOUSANDS OF OUR
INDIVIDUALS LIVING WITH THESE
00:10:30ILLNESSES OUT THERE WORKING AND
BECOMING TAXPAYING CITIZENS.
00:10:33I JUST CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHY
THERE WOULD BE ANY DISCUSSION AT
00:10:38THIS TIME ABOUT CHANGING THAT.
>> I WANT TO GET TO THAT IN A
00:10:42MINUTE, BUT LET ME ASK A COUPLE
SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
00:10:45LISA, THE GOVERNOR TALKED TO THE
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LAST MONTH
00:10:49AM A AND HE SAID HE WENT TO THE
FOOT BANKS AND SAID YOU HAVE THE
00:10:52SUPPORT OF TAX CUTS, BECAUSE IF
WE ARE NOT GROWING JOBS, HOW CAN
00:10:55WE DO ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT
WE WANT TO DO? WAS THEIR CONCERN
00:11:02ABOUT SUPPORTING THE TAX CUTS OR
WAS THERE ENOUGH THERE IN TERM
00:11:04OF BENEFITS FOR LOWER INCOME
OHIOANS THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO
00:11:09GET ON BOARD AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT
IT?
00:11:10>> WE CONTINUE TO HAVE
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TAX STRUCTURE
00:11:15IN A SYSTEM THAT IS FAIR AND
BALANCED.
00:11:17AGAIN, WE APPLAUD THE GOVERNOR
FOR CREATING AN AND INCOME TAX
00:11:21CREDIT -- AND EARNED INCOME TAX
CREDIT AND WE WILL DO OUR JOBS
00:11:27TO ADVOCATE MAKING THAT A
REFUNDABLE EARNED INCOME TAX
00:11:33CREDIT TO MAKE WORK PAY.
IT IS REALLY ABOUT TAXES AND THE
00:11:36PRICE WE PAY TO LIVE IN A CIVIL
SOCIETY AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
00:11:39WE HAVE SOLID INVESTMENTS, NOT
ONLY IN THE SOCIAL SAFETY NET,
00:11:43BUT IN THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO
MAKE US GROW AND THRIVE AS A
00:11:47SOCIETY, AS A COMMUNITY, INVEST
IN THE LEAST AMONG US.
00:11:50I THINK THIS IS A GOOD START.
WE ARE CERTAINLY LOOKING FORWARD
00:11:54, AS TERRY SAID, TO HAVE THOSE
BROADER CONVERSATIONS, THAT WE
00:11:58BRING EVERYONE OUT OF THE
SHADOWS, AND CERTAINLY THOSE WHO
00:12:01STAND IN OUR FOOD LINES MAY
SUFFER FROM MENTAL OR PHYSICAL
00:12:05DISABILITIES.
BUT MANY ARE WORKING.
00:12:09THEY ARE PLAYING BY THE ROLES.
THEY ARE PAYING TAXES.
00:12:11WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WORK
PAYS.
00:12:13>> JACK, I WANT TO ASK YOU -- I
DO NOT THINK YOU ARE A SUPPORTER
00:12:20OF THE GOVERNOR'S IDEA THAT TAX
CUTS WILL HELP CREATE ECONOMIC
00:12:24PROSPERITY AND BRING EVERYBODY
UP, ARE YOU?
00:12:25>> NO, NO, I'M NOT.
I THINK IF SOMEONE WERE TO GO
00:12:30OUT AND ASK A GROUP OF
INVESTMENT COUNSELORS WHETHER OR
00:12:35NOT THEY WOULD BE ADVISING THEIR
CLIENTS TO INVEST IN
00:12:41LABOR-INTENSIVE, LOW SKILLED
JOBS IN THE INNER-CITY CLEVELAND
00:12:48OR THE APPALACHIAN AREAS, MY
GUESS IS THAT WOULD BE PRETTY
00:12:54FAR DOWN THE LIST.
MOST FOLKS, WHEN THEY ARE
00:12:55LOOKING AT TURNING MONEY IN
INVESTMENT, THEY ARE LOOKING AT
00:13:00MORE THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH
TECHNOLOGY, IMPROVED TECHNOLOGY,
00:13:03WHICH DECREASES EMPLOYMENT, OR
THERE IS A MUCH HIGHER RETURN,
00:13:09I'M SURE ON COMPANIES THAT
PRODUCE THEIR GOODS OFF SHORES,
00:13:11BECAUSE THEIR LABEL CAUGHT --
LABOR COSTS ARE SO MUCH LOWER.
00:13:15IF YOU ARE INVESTING MONEY TO
MAKE MY MONEY, THERE ARE LOTS OF
00:13:19THINGS YOU CAN DO THAT WILL MAKE
MORE MONEY THAN INVESTING IN
00:13:23JOBS HERE IN OHIO IN THE
COMMUNITIES THAT NEED IT THE
00:13:24MOST.
AND I THINK THE FACTS OF BORN
00:13:27THAT OUT.
WE HAVE BEEN DOING TAX CUTS FOR
00:13:29YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS WITH
THIS IDEA THAT SOMEHOW THAT IS
00:13:34GOING TO CREATE JOBS FOR POOR
PEOPLE.
00:13:36IN FACT, IT HAS NOT CREATED JOBS
FOR POOR PEOPLE AND CERTAINLY IN
00:13:38THE COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY LIVE.
AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE ON THE
00:13:42OTHER SIDE, AS A MENTIONED
EARLIER, WE HAVE REMOVED
00:13:46HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
FROM THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE
00:13:49ACTUALLY REDUCED THE NUMBER OF
JOBS THEY HAVE THERE.
00:13:51THAT IS THE REALITY OF IT.
QUITE HONESTLY I FIND IT WHITE
00:13:54DISTRESSING THE GOVERNOR WOULD
ESSENTIALLY HOLD THE FOOD
00:13:56PANTRIES HOSTAGE TO SUPPORT A
TAX CUT IN ORDER TO SUPPORT
00:14:02PUTTING MONEY INTO FOOD BANKS
READ I MEAN, THAT'S JUST AWFUL.
00:14:05>> DO THINK THE BENEFITS -- THE
EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT, THE
00:14:11EXTRA BENEFITS FOR PERSONAL TAX
REDUCTION, WAS THAT ENOUGH TO
00:14:13OFFSET IT?
THAT WAS SOMETHING, RIGHT?
00:14:15>> DOES NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE
$600 MILLION I ALREADY DESCRIBED
00:14:22THEY HAVE LOST IN THE WAY OF
BENEFITS.
00:14:23AND THERE ARE A GREAT MANY FOLKS
UP AT LETTER SIMPLY NOT ABLE TO
00:14:27WORK.
THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS IT
00:14:30TAKES A YEAR OR A YEAR AND A
HALF TO GET APPROVED FOR
00:14:34DISABILITY ASSISTANCE DUE TO THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND IN THE
00:14:37MEANTIME YOU STILL HAVE TO LIVE.
THAT ACCOUNTS FOR A LARGE NUMBER
00:14:39OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE CURRENTLY
GETTING FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE IN
00:14:43OHIO, WHILE THEY'RE WAITING TO
GET ON THAT FEDERAL PROGRAM.
00:14:46THEY CAN'T WORK AT ALL.
AND THEY NEED TO EAT.
00:14:50THEY NEED TO HAVE A ROOF OVER
THEIR HEADS.
00:14:53THEY NEED TO HAVE THEIR BASIC
NEEDS MET.
00:14:54AND I THINK IT UNDERESTIMATES
HOW INADEQUATE THE BENEFITS ARE
00:14:59ONCE THEY GET THEM.
SUPPLEMENTAL SECURITY INCOME FOR
00:15:04THE DISABLED ONLY PAYS 75% OF
THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL. CASH
00:15:07ASSISTANCE IN OHIO ONLY PAYS UP
TO 50% OF THE POVERTY LEVEL.
00:15:10THAT IS INCLUDING FOOD STAMP
BENEFITS.
00:15:13FOOD STAMPS -- IT'S CALLED
SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITION
00:15:18ASSISTANCE BECAUSE IT IS ONLY
INTENDED TO PROVIDE 70% OF THE
00:15:22FOOD YOU NEED READ ALL OF THESE
PROGRAMS ARE INADEQUATE IN THE
00:15:26FIRST PLACE YOUR IT WE DO NOT
HAVE A SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF
00:15:30DECENT JOBS OUT THERE THAT COULD
REMOVE EVEN THOSE PEOPLE WHO
00:15:34WANT AND ARE ABLE TO WORK RIGHT
NOW.
00:15:35>> TERRY, I WANT TO TAKE IT IN A
DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
00:15:40THERE SEEM TO BE COMPETING
INTERESTS WHEN IT COMES TO
00:15:43PROGRAMS FOR THE MENTALLY ILL
AND PROGRAMS FOR PEOPLE ADDICTED
00:15:47TO DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.
WE SAW IT IN THE HOUSE BILL LAST
00:15:51YEAR WHERE THEY TOOK MONEY THAT
IS SUPPOSED TO BE ALLOCATED FOR
00:15:54MENTALLY ILL AND DRUG ADDICTION
PROGRAMS AND REALLOCATED FOR
00:15:57DRUG ADDICTION PROGRAMS ONLY.
ARE YOU SEEING SOME OF THIS
00:16:01COMPETING INTEREST IDEA HERE?
>> ABSOLUTELY AND THE SAD PART
00:16:06ABOUT THAT WHOLE ARGUMENT IS WE
HAVE A TERRIBLE DRUG PROBLEM IN
00:16:08THIS STATE, AROUND THIS COUNTRY.
AND THE NEED FOR SERVICES TO
00:16:13THESE PEOPLE IS TREMENDOUS.
BUT WHY WOULD YOU TAKE THAT OUT
00:16:21OF THE MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET,
WHICH IS ALREADY GROSSLY
00:16:22UNDERFUNDED, AND SHIFTED OVER --
SHIFT IT OVER TO THAT FUND?
00:16:28WE NEED NEW FUNDS FOR THAT
PROGRAM.
00:16:31I THINK IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY
OF THE GOVERNMENT TO PRIORITIZE.
00:16:34THERE WILL NEVER BE ENOUGH MONEY
FOR EVERYBODY TO DO EVERYTHING
00:16:37IN THOSE WITH THE GREATEST NEED,
THAT IS THE ROLE FOR GOVERNMENT.
00:16:39EVERYTHING WE HAVE HEARD HERE
TODAY, THESE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS
00:16:45WE HAVE TO PROTECT.
LAST YEAR, I HAD ONE LEGISLATOR
00:16:52TAKEAWAY $7.5 MILLION FOR
HOUSING FOR THE MENTALLY ILL TO
00:16:56PUT INTO THE OPIATE PROBLEM AND
I FOUGHT THAT AND WE WON AND IT
00:16:59CAME BACK.
BUT WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO --
00:17:02LET'S NOT GET INTO THOSE
ARGUMENTS.
00:17:03LET'S START WITH WHAT IS GOOD
FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS STATE
00:17:07THAT, NOT BY ANY FAULT OF THEIR
OWN, ARE FOUND IN SITUATIONS
00:17:10THAT CANNOT -- THAT CAN BE
CORRECTED, CAN BE HELPED IF THE
00:17:17GOVERNMENT STANDS UP AND DOES
THEIR MORAL AND I THINK
00:17:18FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY.
WE SAVE MONEY IN GOVERNMENT BY
00:17:25TREATING THESE PEOPLE WITH
RESPECT AND GIVING THEM THE
00:17:26OPPORTUNITIES THEY DESERVE.
>> YOU MENTIONED MEDICAID
00:17:30EXPANSION A LITTLE BIT AND I
WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
00:17:32WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH
MEDICAID EXPANSION IS A QUESTION
00:17:35WE ARE ALL WONDERING THE ANSWER
TO.
00:17:36LISA, LET ME ASK YOU.
WHAT HAPPENS IF MEDICAID
00:17:41EXPANSION GOES AWAY, DOES NOT
CONTINUE?
00:17:45WHAT DO YOU FEAR WILL HAPPEN
WITH MEDICAID EXPANSION?
00:17:46>> I CAN'T EVEN COMPREHEND THIS
LEGISLATURE WOULD REMOVE AN
00:17:51OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT THE BOLT
TO ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, MANY
00:17:55FOR THE FIRST TIMES IN THEIR
LIVES, WHEN IT IS 100% FEDERALLY
00:17:58FUNDED.
WE KNEW FOR THREE YEARS WE WOULD
00:18:05COME IN AND RECEIVED MEDICAID
THROUGH THE EXPANDED ELIGIBILITY
00:18:07OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, THEY
NEEDED TO BE CONNECTED TO A
00:18:13HOME, THEIR CHRONIC DISEASE
TREATED, AND ON A PATH TO
00:18:14WELLNESS OH THEY COULD BECOME
PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY
00:18:18AND I THINK WE STAND AND
ADVOCATE THAT.
00:18:21I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUE WE NEED
TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IS
00:18:27THE STAPLES ARE GROWING BECAUSE
THE JOBS THAT ARE THERE EITHER
00:18:29CAN'T OR WON'T PROVIDE
EMPLOYER-PROVIDED HEALTH CARE
00:18:34COVERAGE.
THERE IS A SHIFTING FROM AN
00:18:37EMPLOYER TYPE RESPONSIBILITY
ONTO GOVERNMENT.
00:18:38SO, AGAIN, THERE IS GREATER NEED
THAN EVER BEFORE, BUT WHAT WE
00:18:42SEE IS AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS
WORTH A POUND OF CURE, AND ON
00:18:49THIS ONE, WE REALLY NEED TO
CONTINUE.
00:18:51IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
IT IS THE HUMANE THING TO DO.
00:18:53>> JACK, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT
MEDICAID EXPANSION.
00:18:59WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE FUTURE
AND WHAT HAPPENS IF IT GOES
00:19:01AWAY?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT
00:19:05THE LEGISLATURE WOULD NOT BE SO
FOOLISH IN THE END AS TO DO
00:19:07SOMETHING THAT IS SO -- SO
HARMFUL.
00:19:13SO HARMFUL TO SO MANY PEOPLE IN
THIS STATE.
00:19:14I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF
DISCUSSION AMONG LEGISLATORS
00:19:18ABOUT ADDING WORK REQUIREMENTS,
WORK PROGRAMS, AND IT IS ALL
00:19:24CAPS IN TERMS OF, WE WOULD LIKE
TO HAVE THESE PEOPLE GET OFF
00:19:26MEDICAID AND NOT BE POOR.
WE WOULD ALL LIKE THAT.
00:19:31THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN DOING
THIS FOR OUR WHOLE LIVES KNOW IT
00:19:33IS NOT THAT SIMPLE.
YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS
00:19:38CAPABLE OF TAKING A LIVING WAGE
JOB THAT IS AVAILABLE.
00:19:40THOSE ARE ISSUES I THINK THEY
SHOULD BE WORKING HARDER ON, IS
00:19:45HOW WE CREATE LIVING WAGE JOBS,
RATHER THAN MAKING OUR GOAL JUST
00:19:50TO THROW PEOPLE OFF MEDICAID. IF
THEY APPLY THOSE SAME STANDARDS
00:19:55TO THE MEDICAID PROGRAM THEY
HAVE DONE TO THE CASH ASSISTANCE
00:19:59PROGRAM, THEY WILL SIMPLY BE
THROWING PEOPLE OFF.
00:20:02THEY WILL SIMPLY BE REDUCING
THEIR OBLIGATION WITHOUT
00:20:03ENSURING THOSE EMILY'S AND
INDIVIDUALS ACTUALLY -- FAMILIES
00:20:09AND INDIVIDUALS ACTUALLY CAN
SUPPORT THEMSELVES.
00:20:11THAT IS WHAT I AM FEARFUL OF.
THEY TAKE THE SAME MISTAKE THEY
00:20:15MADE WITH CASH ASSISTANCE AND
APPLY THAT TO MEDICAID.
00:20:18THE TWO ARE SO CLOSELY TIED
TOGETHER.
00:20:21THERE ARE NO HEALTH CARE
TREATMENTS.
00:20:23THERE ARE NO MENTAL HEALTH
TREATMENTS, SUBSTANCE ABUSE
00:20:29TREATMENTS, EDUCATIONAL
PROGRAMS.
00:20:31NONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS WORK FOR
PEOPLE WHOSE E-CIG NEEDS ARE NOT
00:20:34BEING MET.
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH TO
00:20:35EAT, IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH
TO LIVE, THOSE INTERVENTIONS ARE
00:20:41NOT GOING TO WORK.
ALL OF HER EFFORTS TO TRAIN
00:20:44THESE FOLKS, GET THEM CURED OF
THEIR MENTAL HEALTH OR SUBSTANCE
00:20:47ABUSE ALUMS ARE ONLY GOING TO
WORK FOR FAMILIES OR INDIVIDUALS
00:20:51WHO HAVE THEIR BASIC NEEDS MET
IN THE FIRST PLACE AND WE SEEM
00:20:53TO HAVE TOTALLY GIVEN UP ON THAT
AS A GOAL.
00:20:55>> TERRY, LET ME ASK YOU -- YOU
HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT MEDICAID
00:21:01EXPANSION, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING
SPECIFIC YOU WANT TO MENTION FOR
00:21:03THE POPULATION YOU SERVE?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
00:21:07IF YOU SUFFER FROM A BRAIN
ILLNESS CALLED SCHIZOPHRENIA YOU
00:21:12DIE 25 YEARS EARLIER THAN THE
REST OF THE POPULATION.
00:21:14>> THAT WAS A FACT CHECKED BY
POLITICAL ACT -- POLITIFACT.
00:21:21>> THAT'S TRUE.
THEY DO NOT DIE FROM
00:21:28SCHIZOPHRENIA.
THEY DIE FROM NEGLECTED HEALTH
00:21:29ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN
ABLE TO GET BECAUSE THEY DID NOT
00:21:31HAVE MEDICAID ASKED TENSION OR
THE BIG ONE THAT I THINK THE
00:21:36LEGISLATURE, ESPECIALLY THE
CONSERVATIVES ON THE
00:21:39LEGISLATURE, NEED TO WONDERS DAN
-- BY HAVING MEDICAID EXPANSION
00:21:43FOR THOSE WHO ARE ON THE HIGHER
LEVEL OF FUNCTIONING, THEY CAN
00:21:45WORK AND GET THEIR MEDICAID
EXPANSION AND CONTINUE TO WORK.
00:21:51WITHOUT MEDICAID EXPANSION WE
HAVE MORE PEOPLE NOT WORKING,
00:21:54MORE PEOPLE RECEIVING EVERYTHING
THAT LISA PROVIDES IN WHAT JACK
00:21:59IS TALKING -- IT IS SAVING
MONEY.
00:22:00I AM PLAYING TO THE CONSERVATIVE
PART OF THE LEGISLATURE.
00:22:06YOU ARE SAVING MONEY.
IF THAT IS WHAT YOU REALLY WANT
00:22:08TO DO -- I CAN'T BELIEVE IT IS
GOING TO HAPPEN.
00:22:10IN MY LIFETIME.
I HOPE IT DOES NOT HAPPEN.
00:22:15>> I JUST WANT TO SAY WHAT WE
HAVE SEEN IS MEDICAID EXPANSION
00:22:23HAS BEEN A LIFELINE.
IT HAS BEEN A WORK SUPPORT
00:22:26PROGRAM JUST LIKE FOOD STAMPS,
JUST LIKE CHILDCARE IS AND IT'S
00:22:29THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR ALL
OHIO.
00:22:32SO NO ONE WILL BE LEFT LIVING IN
THE SHADOWS.
00:22:34>> LET'S CLOSE REAL QUICKLY WITH
ANY SPECIFICS YOU ARE HOPING TO
00:22:40SEE OUT OF THIS BUDGET.
LISA, LET ME START WITH YOU.
00:22:42ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY YOU'RE
HOPING THE GOVERNOR WILL PROPOSE
00:22:46IN THE LEGISLATURE WILL GO ALONG
WITH?
00:22:47>> YES, WE ARE REQUESTING $20
MILLION A YEAR TO CONTINUE OUR
00:22:51HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL OHIO FOOD
PROGRAM AND AGRICULTURE
00:22:56CLEARANCE PROGRAM, CONTINUATION
OF OUR SUMMER WEEKEND MEAL
00:23:00PROGRAM AND DELIVERY FOR
CHILDREN WHO LIVE IN
00:23:04ECONOMICALLY AND GEOGRAPHICALLY
ISOLATED COMMUNITIES, MILLIONS
00:23:11MORE FOR FOOD STAMPS AND
TRAINING THAT IS CYCLICALLY
00:23:14TARGETED TO UNEMPLOYED ADULTS
WITHOUT DEPENDENTS WHO ARE
00:23:17SUBJECT TO THE TIME LIMIT,
ALLOWING COUNTIES TO UTILIZE
00:23:21SOME OF THE 400,000 MONTHS OF
EXEMPTIONS TO REENROLL THOSE WHO
00:23:27HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE FOOD
STAMP PROGRAM WHO ARE ALSO
00:23:30BENEFITING FROM THE MEDICATED
ENGINE, TO -- THE MEDICAID
00:23:35EXPANSION, TO IMPLEMENT AN
EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT AND TO
00:23:40PRIORITIZE ALL WORKFORCE
INVESTMENT DOLLARS IN TWO JOB
00:23:44TRAINING PROGRAMS, EDUCATION FOR
THOSE WHO ARE BEING SUBJECT TO
00:23:48THE TIME LIMIT, AND THOSE WHO
WOULD BENEFIT MOST FROM THESE
00:23:52PROGRAMS.
>> JACK, LET ME ASK YOU REAL
00:23:56QUICKLY -- ANY SPECIFICS HE
WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE
00:23:57GOVERNOR'S BUDGET?
>> SURE, REALLY QUICKLY.
00:24:00THE STATE IS GOING TO UNDERSTAND
BY WELL OVER $100 MILLION THIS
00:24:06YEAR.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM TAKE
00:24:08THAT $100 MILLION AND TURN IT
BACK INTO A BENEFIT INCREASE FOR
00:24:12THE 100,000 OR MORE CHILDREN
LEFT ON CASH ASSISTANCE, 75% OF
00:24:18WHOM ARE LIVING WITH
GRANDPARENTS OR SOME OTHER
00:24:20RELATIVE.
THOSE FOLKS NOW HAVE A CACHE IN
00:24:23COMBAT IS ONLY A FEW HUNDRED
DOLLARS A MONTH AND THEY ARE
00:24:25LITERALLY GOING HUNGRY.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE UNDER
00:24:27SPENDING THE WELFARE BROUGHT --
WELFARE BLOCK GRANT.
00:24:30>> FINALLY, TERRY, ANY
SPECIFICS?
00:24:34>> IN 1988, WE LET PEOPLE OUT OF
THE HOSPITALS TO ROAM THE
00:24:42COUNTRYSIDE.
IT WAS NOT UNTIL THE LAST BUDGET
00:24:44THAT THE GOVERNOR AND THE
LEGISLATURE BUT NEW INVESTMENT
00:24:47INTO MENTAL HEALTH CARE.
WE MUST RETAIN THAT BECAUSE IT
00:24:48WAS EARMARKED FOR CRISIS AND FOR
HOUSING, AND WE JUST HAVE TO
00:24:53MAINTAIN THOSE FUNDS.
>> TERRY RUSSELL, LISA HAMLER
00:24:55FUGITT , AND JACK FRECH IN
ATHENS, THANK YOU FOR BEING
00:25:02HERE.
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