00:00:00>> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
BROADCAST OF THE STATE OF OHIO
00:00:05COMES FROM THE OFFICES OF
MORRIS AND ARTHUR LLP, HELPING
00:00:10SOLVE THE LEGAL PROBLEMS ACROSS
OHIO, THE COUNTRY, AND THE
00:00:13WORLD.
AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
00:00:18ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
131,000 TEACHERS, SUPPORTING
00:00:22PROFESSIONALS -- SUPPORT
PROFESSIONALS AND FACULTY.
00:00:29ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE STATE
OF OHIO IS MADE POSSIBLE BY
00:00:32ETECH OF OHIO AND THE LUBRISOVLE
FOUNDATION.
00:00:42>> WHILE FARMERS WAIT FOR RAIN,
THE GOVERNOR CALLS ON AGENCIES
00:00:47TO POUR SOME SUPPORT ON THEM.
THE OHIO STATE FAIR OPENS FOR
00:00:49BUSINESS, BUT IT'S NOT ALL FUN
AND GAMES THERE'S SOME BUSINESS
00:00:51BEING DONE TOO.
AND ANOTHER WEEK OF POLITICAL
00:00:53HEAT IN OHIO. TWO EXPERTS ARE
HERE TO TALK ABOUT THEIR
00:00:55CANDIDATES AND THE MESSAGES
COMING FROM THE OTHER GUY.
00:00:56ALL THIS WEEK IN THE STATE OF
OHIO.
00:01:01THE DROUGHT IS DRAGGING ON IN
OHIO, AND GOV. JOHN KASICH HAS
00:01:06SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER HE
SAYS WILL HELP FARMERS AFFECTED
00:01:07FINANCIALLY BY THE HOT, DRY
WEATHER. HE'S ORDERING STATE
00:01:09AGENCIES TO HELP FARMERS SEEKING
FEDERAL ASSISTANCE ON LOANS.
00:01:11THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF
AGRICULTURE SAYS MOST OF THE
00:01:13STATE IS IN A MODERATE DROUGHT,
WITH NORTHWEST AND WEST CENTRAL
00:01:17PORTIONS IN A SEVERE DROUGHT.
OHIO'S PUBLIC COLLEGES AND
00:01:22UNIVERSITIES ARE BEING URGED TO
GO TOBACCO FREE BY THE PANEL
00:01:24THAT OVERSEES THEM. THE OHIO
BOARD OF REGENTS VOTED
00:01:27UNANIMOUSLY ON A RESOLUTION
THAT SUGGESTS ALL PUBLIC
00:01:29CAMPUSES BAN USE OF ALL TOBACCO
PRODUCTS, BOTH INDOORS AND
00:01:34OUTDOORS. THE INDIVIDUAL
INSTITUTIONS NOW HAVE TO DECIDE
00:01:38IF THEY WANT TO COME UP WITH
THEIR OWN BANS.
00:01:40THE GROUP THAT WANTS TO TAKE
THE JOB OF DRAWING MAPS FOR
00:01:44LAWMAKERS' DISTRICTS OUT OF THE
HANDS OF LAWMAKERS IS FILING
00:01:47ANOTHER ROUND OF SIGNATURES, TO
GET THEIR PROPOSAL TO THE FALL
00:01:50BALLOT. SECRETARY OF STATE JON
HUSTED SAID VOTERS FIRST WAS
00:01:53MORE THAN 130,000 SIGNATURES
SHY OF THE ROUGHLY 385,000
00:01:56VALID SIGNATURES IT NEEDED TO
GET THE PLAN BEFORE VOTERS IN
00:02:02NOVEMBER. THE GROUP WANTS TO
CREATE A 12 MEMBER CITIZENS
00:02:06COMMISSION TO DRAW THE MAPS.
MEANWHILE, A GROUP CALLING
00:02:10ITSELF PROTECT YOUR VOTE OHIO
IS CHALLENGING THE VOTERS FIRST
00:02:15CITIZENS' COMMISSION, CITING
CONCERNS OF UNACCOUNTABILITY,
00:02:18UNLIMITED FUNDING WITH TAXPAYER
DOLLARS, AND ARBITRARY AND
00:02:25INFLEXIBLE ELIGIBILITY RULES.
PROTECT YOUR VOTE OHIO HAS BEEN
00:02:27SOLICITING DONATIONS FROM
REPUBLICANS AND ITS CONCERNS
00:02:30ARE SIMILAR TO THOSE RAISED BY
THE OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY.
00:02:33VOTERS FIRST HAS BEEN BACKED BY
UNIONS AND PROGRESSIVE GROUPS AS
00:02:35WELL AS THE OHIO LIBERTARIAN
PARTY.
00:02:37THE 2012 OHIO STATE FAIR OPENED
THIS WEEK THE 159TH VERSION OF
00:02:41THE ANNUAL PARTY AT THE STATE
FAIRGROUNDS IN COLUMBUS. AND
00:02:45THIS YEAR, THERE'S A FAIR GOING
ON WITHIN THE FAIR. ALONG WITH
00:02:49MAINSTAYS SUCH AS THE MIDWAY,
THE LIVESTOCK SHOWS AND
00:02:52EXHIBITS, THE MUSIC, THE BUTTER
SCULPTURE AND ALL THAT TERRIBLE
00:02:55BUT TERRIBLY GOOD FOOD AT THE
FAIR, THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF
00:02:59JOB AND FAMILY SERVICES IS
HOSTING A JOB FAIR. MICHAEL
00:03:03COLBERT IS THE DIRECTOR OF
ODJFS, AND SAYS THE BOOTH IN
00:03:06THE MARKETPLACE IN THE CENTER OF
THE FAIRGROUNDS HELPS JOBSEEKERS
00:03:08TO POST RESUMES AND SEARCH
THROUGH JOB OPENINGS, OR TO
00:03:12TALK DIRECTLY TO EMPLOYERS.
IN "IT'S AN ACTUAL, WORKING JOB
00:03:19-- >> IT'S AN ACTUAL, WORKING
JOB FAIR"
00:03:22WE HAVE 77 EMPLOYERS THAT ARE
TRYING TO BE HERE THROUGH THE
00:03:29END OF THE FAIR.
SOME OF THEM WILL DO INTERVIEWS
00:03:32AND SOME OF THEM WILL ACTUALLY
DO HIRING YOU HAVE A HIGH
00:03:36PROBABILITY OF EITHER FINDING A
JOB OR MAKING CONTACT WITH AN
00:03:40EMPLOYER.
THE OHIO BENEFIT BANK IS ALSO
00:03:43ON SITE, TO HELP THOSE IN NEED
FIND OUT WHAT BENEFITS ARE
00:03:46AVAILABLE TO THEM.
00:03:48AND COLBERT SAYS OF THE STATE'S
JOBLESS RATE, NOW AT 7.2%, ITS
00:03:53LOWEST LEVEL SINCE SEPTEMBER
2008 HE SAYS THAT'S A
00:03:55COMBINATION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
FINDING JOBS ALONG WITH PEOPLE
00:03:57WHO HAVE FALLEN OFF THE
UNEMPLOYMENT ROLLS BECAUSE THEIR
00:03:58BENEFITS HAVE EXPIRED.
IT WAS A FAIRLY LIGHT WEEK IN
00:04:01OHIO PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS THIS
WEEK. BUT THE RHETORIC IS
00:04:04GETTING HOTTER BY THE DAY. AND
AS VOTERS TRY TO MAKE UP THEIR
00:04:07MINDS WHO TO SUPPORT THIS FALL,
THE OBAMA AND ROMNEY CAMPAIGNS
00:04:09ARE AWARE THEIR CANDIDATES
CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE AT ONCE. SO
00:04:12THEY'RE SENDING OUT SURROGATES
TO REPRESENT THEM AS THEY
00:04:15CONTINUE TO FUNDRAISE AND MAKE
HEADLINING VISITS. HERE THIS
00:04:19WEEK TO ARGUE THE CASE FOR
PRESIDENT OBAMA IS CHRIS
00:04:22REDFERN, CHAIR OF THE OHIO
DEMOCRATIC PARTY, AND ARGUING
00:04:25THE CASE FOR MITT ROMNEY IS
REPUBLICAN CONSULTANT AND
00:04:28STRATEGIST TERRY CASEY.
00:04:30>> FIRST, LET'S TALK POLLS.
IN THE LAST POLL LAST MONTH HAD
00:04:39OBAMA UP 47%, ROMNEY, 38%.
IS IT A DONE DEAL?
00:04:44>> IT MATTERS NOT ANY -- IT
MATTERS NOT.
00:04:51ANY POLL TAKEN IN JULY, EVEN
AUGUST, IT DOES NOT MATTER.
00:04:56IT IS ABOUT HOW WELL WE ARE ABLE
TO TURN OUT OUR WEB BASED VOTES
00:05:03AND -- OUR WILL BASE VOTES AND
THEN SWING INDEPENDENT VOTERS.
00:05:09>> BUT THE POLL GIVES AN
INDICATION.
00:05:14>> IT DOES.
BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE MORE
00:05:22THAN 50 HEADQUARTERS THAT WE
HAVE ALREADY OPENED UP AND
00:05:24DOZENS MORE IN THE COMING DAYS.
WE DO NOT WASTE A LOT OF TIME
00:05:28LOOKING AT POLLS.
>> I WILL AGREE IN PART WITH
00:05:32CHRIS.
THE POLLS DO NOT MEAN THAT MUCH,
00:05:35BUT WHAT IS REALLY BAD ABOUT THE
LAST KRABAK POLL IN OHIO, THIS
00:05:45WEEK'S NEW YORK TIMES POLL HAS
AN 11.
00:05:47ADVANTAGE NATIONALLY.
WHEN YOU DO POLLS, YOU HAVE TO
00:05:53DO HONEST SNAPSHOTS ALL OF THE
OTHER POLLS, WHEN YOU LOOK
00:05:59INTERNALLY, YOU SEE A LOT MORE
INTENSITY ON THE REPUBLICAN
00:06:03SIDE, MUCH AS THE DEMOCRATS
ENJOYED IN 2008.
00:06:07THEN, DEMOCRATS AND INDEPENDENT
VOTERS WERE REALLY ANGRY ABOUT
00:06:12GEORGE BUSH AND THEY WANTED
CHANGE.
00:06:14NOW THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE BECAUSE
PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE
00:06:18ECONOMY.
40 PLUS MONTHS OF 8% OR HIGHER
00:06:23UNEMPLOYMENT.
THAT IS NOT GOOD.
00:06:24>> BUT IN OHIO, IT HAS BEEN
GETTING BETTER.
00:06:27>> JOHN KASICH SAVED THE
AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY.
00:06:36HE IS SUPERMAN.
AS TERRY KNOWS AND DOES NOT WANT
00:06:39TO ADMIT TO COME UP FOR 13
MONTHS THE VOTE -- THE
00:06:42UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN OHIO WAS
DROPPING BEFORE JOHN KASICH
00:06:47BEVER TO PROFITS.
AND -- EVER TOOK OFFICE.
00:06:51MOST NEUTRAL ECONOMIC AND
POLITICAL OBSERVERS WOULD
00:07:00SUGGEST YOU THAT HAD THE
AMERICAN AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY HAD
00:07:03GONE BANKRUPT, AS MITT ROMNEY
WISHED IT TO THREE YEARS AGO,
00:07:07OHIO WOULD BE IN MUCH WORSE
SHAPE THAN IT IS.
00:07:10AND THE GROWTH IN MANUFACTURING
THAT WE HAVE OBSERVED ALL ACROSS
00:07:13OHIO WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED
HAD THE PRESIDENT NOT TAKEN THE
00:07:18LEADERSHIP ROLE IN SAVING THE
AMERICAN AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY.
00:07:22>> MORE THAN HALF OF THE AUTO
PRODUCTION IN OHIO COMES FROM
00:07:30HONDA AND FORD.
PEOPLE WHO ARE BENEFICIARIES OF
00:07:37$80 BILLION.
>> DO YOU THINK THAT IS TRUE,
00:07:39KAREN?
WIDO YOU ASK THE CEO OF HUND AS
00:07:44WE HAVE ASKED THE CEO OF FORD.
HAD THE BIG TWO OF THE BIG THREE
00:07:53NOT RECEIVE THOSE SHORT-TERM
LOANS, FORD WOULD HAVE SUFFERED
00:07:56BECAUSE THE SUPPLY CHAIN NETWORK
WOULD HAVE EVAPORATED.
00:07:59THAT IS NOT A DEMOCRAT SAYING
THAT.
00:08:02THAT IS THE CEO OF FORD MOTOR
COMPANY.
00:08:07BUT THE REALITY IS THAT THERE
ARE SOME PLANTS IN OHIO, LIKE IN
00:08:10DAYTON, BECAUSE THEY DID NOT
HAVE THE RIGHT UAW UNION AND
00:08:15THEY GOT FLUSHED DOWN THE
TOILET.
00:08:16BOTH GM AND CHRYSLER HAD TO GO
UNDER REORGANIZATION TO SHED
00:08:24CERTAIN ASSETS AND CERTAIN PARTS
OF THE UNION CONTRACTS.
00:08:27EITHER WAY, THEY WERE GOING TO
FACE REORGANIZATION BECAUSE THEY
00:08:32HAVE BEEN SO MISMANAGED.
>> IT IS A.
00:08:37I DISAGREE WITH, BUT YOU DO IF
THEY TRY TO MAKE IT.
00:08:39ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE
PRESIDENT'S PLAN OF TRYING TO
00:08:43SAVE GENERAL MOTORS AND
CHRYSLER?
00:08:45ARE YOU DOUBLING DOWN ON THE
LOSING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
00:08:50JOBS?
80 OF 88 COUNTIES IN OHIO HAVE
00:08:56JOBS FROM THE SUPPLY CHAIN
NETWORK IN THIS GREAT STATE.
00:08:59JOHN KASICH CANNOT HAVE IT IN --
AND HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
00:09:02THAT IS WHY HE IS IN A BOX.
AND POOR TERRY HAS BEEN
00:09:09BEAUTIFULLY SENT TO DEFEND HIS
RECORD.
00:09:11>> THE RECORD HAS BEEN PRETTY
GOOD.
00:09:12HE HAS BALANCED THE BUDGET.
>> EVERY STATE HAS TO HAVE A
00:09:16BALANCED BUDGET.
IT DID NOT EXIST.
00:09:23IT IS ONE OF THOSE CANARDS THAT
ARE BANDIED ABOUT BY
00:09:29POLITICIANS.
AND FRANKLY, NOBODY CHALLENGES
00:09:32THOSE NUMBERS.
>> EITHER WAY, GM AND CHRYSLER
00:09:35-- AND CHRYSLER, BY THE WAY, NOW
OWNED BY AN ITALIAN COMPANY.
00:09:39THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BE
RESTRUCTURED BECAUSE THEY WERE
00:09:42SUCH A MESS.
IN PART, BECAUSE OF UAW
00:09:46CONTRACTS AND ALSO BECAUSE OF
BAD MANAGEMENT.
00:09:48BOTH OF THEM NEEDED TO BE FIXED
AND BOTH OF THEM SHED JOBS.
00:09:51THE FOLKS UP IN MARIN COUNTY
THAT LOST LOTS OF MONEY WHEN THE
00:09:58FED CAME IN AND SAID, CLOSE UP
THESE BUSINESSES, EVEN UNDER
00:10:03THESE OPPOSE IT SALVATION PLAN
THAT THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO RUN
00:10:05ON.
>> IT'S GOOD TO HEAR YOU
00:10:08DOUBLING DOWN.
>> YOUR CANDIDATE, MITT ROMNEY,
00:10:12OPPOSED TO THE BAILOUT.
HOW DO YOU SELL HIS POSITION IN
00:10:17A STATE THAT HAS BENEFITED FROM
THE BAILOUT?
00:10:19>> THE "THE NEW YORK TIMES" HAS
PUT A CERTAIN HE'LL -- HEADLINE
00:10:24ON WHAT HE WROTE.
THE REALITY IS, HE HAS SUPPORTED
00:10:27A REORGANIZATION, WHICH IS WHAT
HAPPENED UNDER THE OBAMA PLAN.
00:10:30AND GM WAS NOT GOING TO
DISAPPEAR TOTALLY.
00:10:34CHRIST WAS NOT GOING TO
DISAPPEAR TOTALLY.
00:10:36-- CHRYSLER WAS NOT GOING TO
DISAPPEAR TOTALLY.
00:10:39THE QUESTION WAS WHO GOT
STIFFED THE MOST IN TERMS OF
00:10:45BONDHOLDERS VERSES UAW'S
INTERESTS.
00:10:46>> YOU DO NOT THINK VOTERS ARE
GOING TO HOLD THAT AGAINST HIM?
00:10:49>> IF YOU LOOK AT PARTS OF OHIO,
INCLUDING RIGHT HERE IN CENTRAL
00:10:54OHIO, -- COMPANIES LIKE HONDA
HAVE DONE VERY WELL WITHOUT A
00:10:58BAILOUT.
>> WITH A MINUTE.
00:11:02FIRST AND FOREMOST, MITT
ROMNEY'S COLUMN DID NOT APPEAR
00:11:06IN THE "THE NEW YORK TIMES" BUT
IN THE DETROIT FREE PRESS.
00:11:10AND HE HAS ADMITTED IT WAS
ENTITLED, "LED DETROIT GO
00:11:17BANKRUPT."
AS WE ALL COME TO LEARN, CAPITAL
00:11:24REMAINS ON THE SIDELINES AND THE
EQUITY THAT MITT ROMNEY
00:11:27SUGGESTED WOULD BE THERE WOULD
NOT HAVE BEEN THERE.
00:11:29THAT IS WHY THE UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT, THE SAME WAY WE DID
00:11:33UNDER RICHARD NIXON WITH THE
RAIL INDUSTRY, UNDER GEORGE BUSH
00:11:37WITH THE AMERICAN AIRLINES
INDUSTRY, STEPPED IN AND
00:11:41EXTENDED SHORT-TERM CREDIT TO
KEEP THOSE JOBS AFLOAT.
00:11:45ADDITIONALLY, IT IS FALSE TO
SUGGEST THAT HONDA OR FORD OR TO
00:11:51RYOTA THAT HAVE OPERATIONS IN --
OR TOYOTA THAT HAVE OPERATIONS
00:11:57IN THE MIDWEST WOULD NOT HAVE
BENEFITED FROM THE SHORT-TERM
00:12:00LOANS.
KAREN, DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR
00:12:03IT.
EXTEND AN OFFER TO HONDA OR
00:12:06TOYOTA TO COME IN AND TALK TO
YOU.
00:12:08>> CRISPUS THE SHORT TERM LOANS
AND THE THAT THE HUGE GIFTS.
00:12:15AND A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE,
INCLUDING BONDHOLDERS, PENSION
00:12:20FUNDS FOR PUBLIC EMPLOYEES AND
OTHER PEOPLE GOT STIFFED IN THE
00:12:23PROCESS.
THE REAL QUESTION IS, WHAT IS
00:12:26OBAMA'S PLAN FOR THE FUTURE?
WE HAVE HAD 40 + MONTHS.
00:12:30HIS TOP ECONOMIC ADVISER PROMISE
THAT IF WE PASS THE STIMULUS
00:12:34PLAN THAT OBAMA WANTED TO --
THAT OBAMA WANTED PASSED THROUGH
00:12:39CONGRESS, THAT WE WOULD NEVER GO
ABOVE 8% UNEMPLOYMENT.
00:12:47WE HAVE BEEN ABOVE 8% FOUR
MONTHS.
00:12:49THERE IS NO PLAN.
>> MAY I ASK, OVER THE COURSE OF
00:12:54THE THREE AND A HALF YEARS THAT
THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN
00:12:57PRESIDENT, HAS BEEN UNEMPLOYED
RATE NOT GONE DOWN STEADILY?
00:13:00HAVE STAYED IN THE MIDWEST,
HAVEN'T THEIR UNEMPLOYMENT
00:13:08RATES BEEN LOWER THAN THE
NATIONAL AVERAGE?
00:13:13THE FACT THE MATTER IS, NUMBERS
ARE DAMNABLE THINGS, BECAUSE
00:13:17THEY SPEAK TO THE PROGRESS WE'RE
MAKING.
00:13:20>> 40 + MONTHS OF 8% OR HIGHER
UNEMPLOYMENT.
00:13:24AND A LOT OF THE REASON IT CAME
DOWN FROM 9% OR 10% ON IT
00:13:29BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE
GIVEN UP LOOKING FOR JOBS.
00:13:31>> IT IS NOT JOHN KASICH'S HARD
WORK, BUT PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN UP?
00:13:37THAT IS A DUAL MESSAGE, IS IN
IT?
00:13:40>> THERE ARE SEVERAL PARTS TO
IT.
00:13:418% UNEMPLOYMENT RATE NATIONALLY
IS STILL NOT VERY GOOD.
00:13:48THEY WANT TO BRAG ABOUT MILLIONS
OF JOBS CREATED, BUT IT IS ABOUT
00:13:51HALF OR LESS OF WHAT WE NEED TO
DO TO GET THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE
00:13:56DOWN WHERE IT OUGHT TO BE.
>> WE WILL MOVE ON AND TALK
00:13:59ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE THAT HAS
COME UP IN THE CAMPAIGN.
00:14:02THE "YOU DID NOT BUILD THAT"
CONTROVERSY.
00:14:07SOME PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN VERY
RUFFLED BY THAT MESSAGE.
00:14:11>> IT IS A STATEMENT THAT WAS
TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.
00:14:15>> OH, THE MEDIA'S FAULT?
>> NO, IT IS YOUR FAULT BECAUSE
00:14:20YOU ARE NOT BEING FACTUALLY
CORRECT.
00:14:23IF HE WERE TO PLAY IT AGAIN ON
TODAY'S SHOW YOU WOULD SEE THE
00:14:28PRESIDENT PRACTICES IN HIS
REMARKS ABOUT THE PRIVATE SECTOR
00:14:30BY SAYING A TEACHER IN BACK TO
THE LIVES OF THOSE
00:14:34ENTREPRENEURS.
A ROAD LED THE WAY FOR THOSE
00:14:36CUSTOMERS TO GET THERE.
>> CORPORATIONS AND OTHER PEOPLE
00:14:41PAY FOR THOSE, JUST LIKE
EVERYBODY ELSE DID.
00:14:43>> WHEN MITT ROMNEY WAS OPENING
THE SALT LAKE OLYMPICS, HE SAID,
00:14:51THOSE ATHLETES DID NOT GET YOUR
LOAN.
00:14:53THEY ARE CELEBRATED WITH COACHES
AND PARENTS AND FACILITIES --
00:14:57HIS WORDS -- THAT ALLOWED FOR
THAT TYPE OF SUCCESS TO OCCUR.
00:15:00IT IS AN INTERESTING DICHOTOMY.
YOU HAVE A GUY RUNNING FOR
00:15:05PRESIDENT THAT USE THE SAME
MESSAGE JUST A DECADE AGO TO
00:15:08SUGGEST THAT OUR SUGGESTS -- OUR
SUCCESS IS SHARED AT TIMES WITH
00:15:12THE BEST TEACHERS WE HAD COME UP
WITH THE KIND OF INVESTMENTS >>
00:15:20BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT PEOPLE ARE
HEARING.
00:15:22>> WE DO NOT HEAR IT BECAUSE
TERRY AND HIS FRIENDS HAVE THIS
00:15:28MEGAPHONE FUNDED BY KIKO
BROTHERS -- THE KOCH BROTHERS.
00:15:34THESE ARE WEALTHY
MULTIBILLIONAIRE, A COUPLE OF
00:15:39DOZEN, WHO WANT TO CONTROL THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
00:15:41>> THIS IS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT
JUST LIKE OTHER THINGS ABOUT
00:15:46MITT ROMNEY HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT
OF CONTEXT.
00:15:48>> IF YOU LISTEN TO TWO OR THREE
SENTENCES OF IT, NOT JUST A
00:15:52SNIPPET, HE WAS CLEARLY IN A
CONDESCENDING MANNER.
00:15:55I WAS IN GREECE RESTORE WITH A
FEMALE THAT DOES KITCHEN
00:16:03CABINETS AND BATHROOM CABINETS
AND I ASKED HER COUSINS OBAMA
00:16:08SAID YOU DID NOT GET THIS
SUCCESS ON YOUR OWN, HAVE YOU
00:16:11BEEN GETTING ALL OF THESE
CONTRACTS AND CHECKS?
00:16:14THE HONEST TRUTH IS, THEY DEPEND
ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
00:16:20AND SOME PEOPLE WORK FOR THE
GOVERNMENT.
00:16:27BUT PEOPLE ARE SO SCARED ABOUT
WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN UNDER
00:16:33OBAMACARE, THE COST OF MEDICAL
CARE AND DOCTOR CARE.
00:16:38PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO IMPROVE
THEIR HOMES.
00:16:39OR TO DO OTHER THINGS THAT MAKE
THE ECONOMY RUN.
00:16:45>> THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET
OFFICE, A NONPARTISAN WING OF
00:16:50THE CONGRESS, JUST POINTED OUT
YESTERDAY THAT WITH THE
00:16:54PRESIDENT'S AFFORDABLE CARE ACT
WE WILL SAVE $84 BILLION OF THE
00:16:58DEFICIT.
>> DOZEN SOME OF THAT COME FROM
00:17:02THE REDUCTION IN MEDICAID AND
THINGS LIKE THAT?
00:17:05CORRECT AND HIGHER TAXES.
>> CAN YOU NAME ME ONE?
00:17:09>> BIFFAR AND PENALTIES --
DIFFERENT PENALTIES.
00:17:14>> IT IS A PENALTY.
>> OBAMA HAS BEEN SO
00:17:21SCHIZOPHRENIC.
AT ONE POINT HE SAID HE WILL
00:17:24NOT HIKE TAXES ON THE MIDDLE
CLASS.
00:17:26AND THEN IN ORDER TO GET THIS
APPROVED THEY CALLED A PENALTY
00:17:33THE SUPREME COURT CALLED A TAX.
>> HE IS SCHIZOPHRENIC NOW?
00:17:36>> YES.
>> MOST PEOPLE IN OHIO POLES
00:17:42WERE HOPING THIS WOULD GET
OVERTURNED.
00:17:44>> AND OHIO VOTERS MOSLEY SAID
NO TO OBAMACARE.
00:17:49>> BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT
IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM EVERY DAY.
00:17:53MOST PEOPLE TAKE THEIR HEALTH
CARE FOR GRANTED UNTIL, GOD
00:17:56FORBID, A CRISIS OCCURS.
BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE ARE MORE
00:18:00WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER THEY WILL
BE ABLE TO AFFORD THEIR MORTGAGE
00:18:02THIS MONTH AND NOT WHETHER THEY
HAVE HEALTH CARE.
00:18:04IT IS THE SAME REASON THAT YOU
AND I GRUDGINGLY PAY OUR
00:18:10INSURANCE FOR AUTOMOBILES AND
KNOWING THAT WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN
00:18:13IN AN ACCIDENT, BUT KNOWING THAT
WE HAVE TO HAVE IT BECAUSE
00:18:16SOMEBODY DRIVING DOWN THE
STREET TO ITS AS MAY NOT HAVE
00:18:19AUTO INSURANCE.
REPUBLICANS HATE THIS IDEA
00:18:28BECAUSE IT WAS -- THIS WAS FIRST
SUPPORTED BY REPUBLICAN
00:18:33GOVERNOR, MITT ROMNEY.
AND SUPPORTED BY THE HERITAGE
00:18:38FOUNDATION.
IF I HAD MY WAY, WE WOULD NOT
00:18:40HAVE THE RELIANCE ON THIS KIND
OF EXCHANGE.
00:18:44WE WOULD HAVE INDIVIDUALS HAVING
THAT RESPONSIBILITY, BUT THEN
00:18:47SUPPORTED BY A BROADER MEDICARE
AND MEDICAID PLAN.
00:18:50WE WILL HAVE THIS DEBATE FOR 10
OR 15 YEARS.
00:18:53THE GREAT NEWS IS THE
CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE HAS
00:18:58POINTED OUT THAT THE AFFORDABLE
CARE ACT WILL SAVE OVER THE NEXT
00:19:0210 YEARS $84 BILLION.
>> I'M GLAD HE MENTIONED
00:19:06MEDICARE BECAUSE ONE OF THE
THINGS THIS GOVERNOR AND
00:19:09LEGISLATORS WHO DO NOT WANT TO
PAY HIGHER SALES TAXES OR INCOME
00:19:14TAXES, PART OF IT IS THAT
OBAMACARE STATES THAT THE PEOPLE
00:19:21IN D.C. WILL PASS A LAW SAYING
THIS IS WHAT HE MUST DO AND
00:19:23GUESS WHO GETS STUCK WITH THE
BILL?
00:19:25IT IS THE TAXPAYERS IN OHIO.
THAT IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE
00:19:29PROBLEMS IN THE WHOLE OBAMACARE
THING.
00:19:31>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT'S FAIRLY UNLIKELY THAT
00:19:37EITHER PRESIDENT OBAMA OR MITT
ROMNEY WILL BE BACK IN TOWN IN
00:19:38THE NEXT WEEK ROMNEY IS ON AN
OVERSEAS TRIP.
00:19:39THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH
IDEAS ON HOW TO FIX THINGS THEY
00:19:43SEE ARE GOING WRONG IN OHIO.
MATT MAYER IS AMONG THEM. MAYER
00:19:46RAN THE CONSERVATIVE THINK-TANK
THE BUCKEYE INSTITUTE FOR FOUR
00:19:49YEARS. HE'S NOW WRITTEN AN
OHIO-CENTRIC BOOK CALLED
00:19:51"TAXPAYERS DON'T STAND A CHANCE
WHY BATTLEGROUND OHIO LOSES NO
00:19:56MATTER WHO WINS (AND WHAT TO DO
ABOUT IT)". MAYER IS NOW A
00:19:59VISITING FELLOW AT THE HERITAGE
FOUNDATION AND RUNS A
00:20:01CONSULTING FIRM BASED IN DUBLIN
OUTSIDE COLUMBUS. I TALKED WITH
00:20:04HIM LAST WEEK HERE'S SOME MORE
OF OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME
00:20:07OF THE POSITIONS ON OHIO
POLITICS AND POLICIES HE TAKES
00:20:11IN HIS BOOK.
00:20:14>> YOU TALK A LOT ABOUT WHAT CAN
BE DONE.
00:20:20IN FACT, YOUR CHAPTER IS ABOUT
THAT.
00:20:22ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAY COULD
BE DONE THAT HAS NEVER BEEN
00:20:25CONSIDERED IS BASE SALARIES IN
UNION NEGOTIATIONS ARE NOT CUT.
00:20:28BASE SALARY REDUCTIONS.
>> IT IS VERY RARE.
00:20:34IT IS NOT EVER.
BUT THREE OR FOUR CONTRACTS IN
00:20:37OHIO, MAYBE.
>> ISN'T THERE A LARGER CAUSE
00:20:40WHEN YOU START CUTTING PEOPLE'S
SALARIES?
00:20:42PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD THEIR HOMES
ANYMORE.
00:20:45SALES GO DOWN.
PROPERTY TAXES GO DOWN.
00:20:49ARE THERE IMPACT BEYOND JUST
THAT NUMBER?
00:20:52>> NO, BECAUSE YOU'RE MISSING
SOMETHING.
00:20:58FOR EVERY DOLLAR GOING INTO THE
POCKET OF THE TEACHER OR
00:21:01FIREFIGHTER, IS COMING OUT OF
THE POCKET OF THE TAXPAYER.
00:21:03IF IT IS REDUCED, THAT IS $1
LESS THAN HAS TO COME OUT.
00:21:10TEACHERS WILL HAVE TO DO SOME
BELT-TIGHTENING, BUT THOUSANDS
00:21:14IN OHIO HAVE HAD TO DO THAT IN
THE LAST FEW YEARS.
00:21:17>> WHERE DID THE PRIVATE SECTOR
GET THE GOLD STANDARD ON HOW TO
00:21:24TREAT PEOPLE?
THAT IS WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
00:21:28HAVE SAID, THAT THE PUBLIC
SECTOR CAN DO BETTER.
00:21:33>> SENATOR TURNER, GOD LOVE HER,
BUT IT IS CALLED THE FREE
00:21:37MARKET.
YOU CAN ARBITRARILY SET WAGES
00:21:41HIGH, BUT THE MARKET IS WHAT
ULTIMATELY DICTATE THAT.
00:21:44AND YET SEEN THAT IN THE PRIVATE
SECTOR UNIONS WITH GM AND FORD.
00:21:48THEY'RE NOT OUT DURING -- THEY
ARE NOW DOING TWO-YEAR
00:21:57CONTRACTS.
WHY?
00:21:58BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE OLD UNION
GUY AND THE NEW UNION GUY DOING
00:22:01THE EXACT SAME WORK.
NOW YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT
00:22:06MONOPOLY POWER IN AMERICA.
THEY HAVE TO PAY WHAT THE MARKET
00:22:10IS GOING TO BEAR.
THAT IS BASED UPON TAX RATES.
00:22:13THE TAXPAYER CANNOT SIMPLY PAY
MORE AND MORE TO KEEP THAT OUT.
00:22:17IT WILL BE A MARKET BASED
ADJUSTMENT.
00:22:19IT IS NOT ABOUT THE PRIVATE
SECTOR HAVING SOME GOLD
00:22:23STANDARD.
IT IS JUST THE WAY THE MARKET
00:22:24WORKS.
>> I COULD TALK ABOUT THIS FOR
00:22:28QUITE A LONG TIME.
A LOT OF MATERIAL.
00:22:32IT IS ESSENTIALLY A SHORT BOOK.
HOW DO YOU FUND ESSENTIAL
00:22:38SERVICES -- PUBLIC SAFETY,
SCHOOLS, PRISONS,
00:22:41TRANSPORTATION, ALL THIS STUFF,
WENT -- WHEN COSTS RISE EVERY
00:22:50YEAR?
>> THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO,
00:22:57AND THIS IS ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS
IN THE BOOK.
00:22:59I WISH GOVERNOR KASICH WOULD DO
THIS.
00:23:02AND THIS IS NOT A PARTISAN
ISSUE.
00:23:05DEMOCRAT GOVERNORS ARE JUST --
SHOULD JUST BE AS INTERESTED IN
00:23:10IS AS REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS.
BUT TO PICK A FIGHT WITH
00:23:12WASHINGTON SAYING, LOOK, WE DO
NOT NEED YOU TELLING US HOW TO
00:23:16EDUCATE OUR KIDS, HOW TO TAKE
AIRPORT, HOW TO MAINTAIN OUR
00:23:20ROAD.
-- HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THE POOR,
00:23:24HOW TO MAINTAIN OUR ROADS.
STATE TAXES COULD ACTUALLY GO
00:23:30UP.
THE INCREASE WOULD BE LESS THAN
00:23:32THE DECREASE.
WE COULD GET RID OF THE
00:23:36BUREAUCRACY AT THE STATE AND
LOCAL LEVEL THAT HAS TO DEAL
00:23:41WITH THE BUREAUCRACY IN
WASHINGTON.
00:23:43AND MORE MONEY COULD GO INTO THE
CLASSROOM.
00:23:46IT WOULD BE A NET WIN FOR
EVERYBODY EXCEPT FOR WASHINGTON
00:23:50D.C. AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
MORE MANDATES OUT OF WASHINGTON
00:23:56MAKE TAXES GO UP.
WE HAVE SEEN THAT IN EUROPE.
00:23:59IT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.
THE WAY TO RING THAT BELL IS TO
00:24:03REINVIGORATE THE IDEA OF
FEDERALISM.
00:24:06I WOULD RATHER HAVE MORE POWER
IN THE HANDS OF TED STRICKLAND
00:24:10AS GOVERNOR, AND ARMAND BUDISH.
I WOULD WANT THAT MORE THAN MORE
00:24:16POWER IN THE HANDS OF PRESIDENT
OBAMA WAR PRESIDENT ROMNEY.
00:24:19-- OURK PRESIDENT ROMNEY.
>> IT ALMOST MAKES YOU SOUND
00:24:32CRAZY.
EVERYBODY IS DOING IT WRONG AND
00:24:35YOU GOT THE RIGHT IDEA.
>> BUT I'M NOT THE ON THE ONE
00:24:39SAYING THESE THINGS.
YOU SEE THIS ON THE LEFT AND
00:24:41RIGHT.
MANY OF THESE THINGS ARE NOT
00:24:44PARTISAN IDEAS.
THEY'RE NOT JUST ABOUT
00:24:46CONSERVATIVES.
LIBERALS AND PROGRESSIVES WILL
00:24:49BENEFIT JUST AS MUCH.
IT IS THE SAME THING THAT IS AN
00:24:54OCCUPIED WALL STREET AND IT HAS
BEEN BUBBLING UP ALL OVER THIS
00:24:57COUNTRY FOR YEARS.
SO I WROTE A BOOK ABOUT IT.
00:25:00YOU CAN CALL IT CRAZY, AND THE
ESTABLISHMENT WELL BECAUSE IF WE
00:25:03GET DONE WHAT WE SHOULD, THEY
LOSE POWER.
00:25:07BUT YOU KNOW WHO GAINS IT?
YOU AND ME.
00:25:09THAT IS WHO SHOULD HAVE THE
POWER, THE TAXPAYER.
00:25:12NOT A BUNCH OF POLITICIANS WHO
WANT TO KEEP POWER.
00:25:15>> THE PROCEEDS FROM HIS BOOK GO
TO --
00:25:18AND A QUICK NOTE THE PROCEEDS
FROM MAYER'S BOOK GO TO TWO
00:25:22CONSERVATIVE CAUSES, THE RONALD
REAGAN PRESIDENTIAL FOUNDATION
00:25:24AND LIBRARY AND THINK TANKS IN
THE STATE POLICY NETWORK.
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