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00:00:00CRITICS SUPPORT FOR THE
STATEWIDE -- >> SUPPORT OF THE
00:00:05STATEWIDE BROADCAST OF "STATE OF
OHIO COMES FROM THE LAW OFFICES
00:00:09OF ORDER, RIGHT -- PORTER WRIGHT
LLP.
00:00:15AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
00:00:22131,000 TEACHERS, SUPPORT
PROFESSIONALS AND HIGHER
00:00:27EDUCATION FACULTY WORKING FOR
GREAT OUTLOOK SCHOOLS FOR EVERY
00:00:31CHILD.
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR "STATE OF
00:00:32OHIO" IS MADE POSSIBLE BYE-TECH
ALLY OF.
00:00:37>> THE BUDGET IS ON ITS WAY TO A
COMMITTEE THAT WILL HAMMER OUT
00:00:41THE DIFFERENCES BEFORE THE END
OF THE MONTH DEADLINE.
00:00:43BUT THERE ARE SERIOUS ISSUES ON
BOTH SIDES THAT COULD SLOW DOWN
00:00:46THE TALKS.
A BILLION DOLLARS IS HEADED BACK
00:00:47TO OHIO EMPLOYERS WHO PAID INTO
THE STATE'S BUREAU OF WORKERS'
00:00:50COMP PROGRAM.
BUT A CRITIC SAYS THE BWC HAS AN
00:00:52OUTSTANDING BILL THAT REMAINS
UNPAID.
00:00:54AND MORE ON HOW OHIO'S POOREST
PEOPLE ARE SURVIVING THE RISING
00:00:57COSTS OF A BASIC EXISTENCE.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:01:02OHIO."
IT HAPPENS EVERY BUDGET CYCLE --
00:01:07THE VOTE IN THE HOUSE, WHERE THE
BUDGET STARTS, TO REJECT THE
00:01:10CHANGES THAT THE SENATE MADE TO
THE SPENDING PLAN.
00:01:14THAT SENDS THE TWO VERSIONS OF
THE BUDGET TO THE CONFERENCE
00:01:16COMMITTEE, WHERE IT'S MELDED
INTO A SINGLE DOCUMENT.
00:01:19IN THE LAST TWO BUDGET YEARS,
THIS VOTE HAS BEEN NEARLY
00:01:22UNANIMOUS, WITH LITTLE DEBATE.
BUT THIS TIME, IN A HOUSE WHERE
00:01:25THE REPUBLICAN SUPERMAJORITY IS
SPLIT OVER SOME ISSUES AND
00:01:29DEMOCRATS ARE WELL IN THE
MINORITY, IT TURNED OUT TO BE A
00:01:32LOT MORE POLITICAL THAN USUAL.
HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE CHAIR
00:01:36RON AMSTUTZ OF WOOSTER STARTED
IT OFF IN A TYPICAL FASHION.
00:01:39>> THE QUESTION IS, SHALL WE
CONCUR IN THE AMENDMENTS THAT
00:01:43THE SENATE HAS MADE TO THE
BUDGET BILL?
00:01:47AND I THINK WE SHOULD DO THE
HONORABLE THING AND INDICATE
00:01:50THAT FURTHER WORK IS REQUIRED.
>> IN THE LAST TWO BUDGET YEARS,
00:01:56-- DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE BOB
HAGAN STOOD UP.
00:02:01>> I WANT TO STATE BRIEFLY THE
OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE AND COULD
00:02:09MISS.
THAT WE INVEST IN THE OHIO
00:02:14SHALE DRILLING AREA AND I WILL
TELL YOU WHY.
00:02:15DRILLING PROCESS KNOWN AS THEE
FRACKING, WHICH HE OPPOSES.
00:02:25REP. AMSTUTZ ROSE AND SAID THAT
HAGAN WASN'T SPEAKING TO THE
00:02:29BUDGET BILL, AND SPEAKER BILL
BATCHELDER RULED HAGAN OUT OF
00:02:32ORDER.
THEN REP. RON YOUNG, A
00:02:35REPUBLICAN OF LAKE COUNTY IN
NORTHEAST OHIO BROUGHT UP A
00:02:37MEDICAID REFORM AMENDMENT THAT
SENATORS HAD TAKEN OUT OF THE
00:02:39HOUSE BUDGET.
>> AND AS LONG AS I'M MENTIONING
00:02:41MEDICAID, I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE
DON'T SLIP IN SOME SORT OF
00:02:44MEDICAID EXPANSION OR EVEN SOME
OF THE REFORM PROGRAMS THAT I'VE
00:02:48SEEN TO DATE, AND LET ME JUST
SHARE BRIEFLY WHY I FEEL THAT
00:02:51WAY.
>> YOUNG TALKED FOR SEVERAL
00:02:53MINUTES LONGER THAN HAGAN, AND
EVENTUALLY DEMOCRATIC REP. MIKE
00:02:55FOLEY OF CLEVELAND ROSE TWICE TO
SAY THAT YOUNG ALSO WASN'T
00:02:58SPEAKING TO THE BILL.
THOUGH OTHERS HAD WANTED TO
00:03:01SPEAK TO THE BUDGET BILL,
BATCHELDER QUICKLY MOVED TO A
00:03:03VOTE, AND NOW IT'S OFF TO THE
CONFERENCE COMMITTEE.
00:03:06AFTER THE VOTE, AMSTUTZ TALKED
WITH REPORTERS ABOUT THE DEBATE,
00:03:08AND WHY HE THOUGHT HAGAN AND
YOUNG SPOKE OUT.
00:03:12>> THOSE ARE STATEWIDESPEECHES.
>> WELL, DO YOU FEEL THEY SET A
00:03:20TONE THAT MAYBE IS GOING TO BE
MAKING THE CONFERENCECOMMITTEE
00:03:27WERE CARTER?
-- WORK HARDER?
00:03:31>> WE ALWAYS HAVE OUR
CHALLENGES, BUT I THINK WE'RE
00:03:35REACHING OUT TO THE MEMBERS THAT
ARE FOCUSED ON THE MEMBERS THAT
00:03:38ARE TRYING TO MAKE OUR STATE, TO
DEVELOP STRONG PROGRAMS, POLICY
00:03:40PROGRAMS, POLICY-BASED PROGRAMS
AND ULTIMATELY, HOPEFULLY WE'LL
00:03:43FIND CONVERGENCE EVEN OF THOSE
THAT HAVE STATEWIDE ASPIRATIONS.
00:03:46>> HAGAN IS RUNNING FOR THE
DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR US
00:03:49SENATE IN 2016, BUT YOUNG HASN'T
ANNOUNCED ANY STATEWIDE
00:03:51CAMPAIGNS.
BOTH SAID THEY SPOKE BECAUSE
00:03:53THEY HAD ISSUES THEY FELT NEEDED
TO BE ADDRESSED BY THE
00:03:55CONFERENCE COMMITTEE, AND THIS
WAS THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO
00:03:57BRING THOSE UP IN A PUBLIC
FORUM.
00:03:59THE MEMBERS OF THE CONFERENCE
COMMITTEE WERE NAMED IMMEDIATELY
00:04:02AFTER THE SENATE CHANGES WERE
REJECTED.
00:04:04THEY ARE -- FROM THE HOUSE, RON
AMSTUTZ OF WOOSTER AND JEFFREY
00:04:06MCCLAIN OF UPPER SANDUSKY, BOTH
REPUBLICANS, AND DEMOCRAT VERNON
00:04:08SYKES OF AKRON.
FROM THE SENATE, SCOTT OELSLAGER
00:04:11OF CANTON AND BILL COLEY OF
MIDDLETOWN, BOTH REPUBLICANS,
00:04:13AND DEMOCRAT TOM SAWYER OF
AKRON.
00:04:15THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE WAS
SUPPOSED TO START ITS WORK
00:04:17THURSDAY, BUT THE FIRST MEETING
HAS BEEN PUSHED FORWARD TO THIS
00:04:20COMING TUESDAY.
ONE OF THE CONFERENCE
00:04:23COMMITTEE'S BIGGEST JOBS --
WORKING OUT HOW TO BALANCE A 7%
00:04:27ACROSS THE BOARD INCOME TAX CUT
IN THE HOUSE VERSION WITH A 50%
00:04:31SMALL BUSINESS TAX CUT IN THE
SENATE PLAN.
00:04:34THE BUDGET NEEDS TO BE PASSED BY
THE HOUSE AND SENATE BY THE END
00:04:37OF THE MONTH.
THE OHIO SUPREME COURT WILL
00:04:41DECIDE WHETHER BENEFITS SUCH AS
A COMPANY CAR OFFERED TO A
00:04:44PARENT SHOULD COUNT WHEN IT
COMES TO CALCULATING CHILD
00:04:46SUPPORT.
JEFFREY MORROW OF MEDINA WANTED
00:04:49TO REDUCE HIS CHILD SUPPORT
PAYMENTS WHEN HIS INCOME DROPPED
00:04:52IN 2009.
BUT A COURT HAD RULED THAT HIS
00:04:56CAR, INSURANCE, CELL PHONE AND
OSU FOOTBALL TICKETS -- ALL PAID
00:05:00BY HIS COMPANY -- COUNTED AS
MORE THAN $16,000 WORTH OF
00:05:04INCOME.
MORROW'S ATTORNEY JOHN RAGNER
00:05:06SAID BENEFITS CAN ONLY BE
COUNTED IF A PARENT IS SELF-
00:05:10EMPLOYED OR OWNS THE COMPANY.
>> THEY NEVER INTENDED, THE
00:05:13GENERAL ASSEMBLY, TO EXCLUDE
COMPANY BENEFITS.
00:05:16THEY JUST WANTED TO LIMIT HOW IT
WAS USED.
00:05:18>> BUT TOM MORRIS, REPRESENTING
MORROW'S EX WIFE SHERRI BECKER,
00:05:20SAID IT SHOULDN'T MATTER WHETHER
THE COMPANY IS OWNED BY THE
00:05:23PARENT, WHO CAN HAVE A LOT OF
EXTRA CASH IF A CAR IS PROVIDED.
00:05:30>> IF YOU ARE GIVEN ONE TO USE
AT YOUR DISCRETION, THEN IT
00:05:32ABSOLUTELY SHOULD COUNT BECAUSE
THOSE ARE DOLLARS THAT YOU DO
00:05:35NOT HAVE TO SPEND ON YOUR OWN
VEHICLE.
00:05:40>>
THE COURT WILL RULE ON THIS
00:05:47CASE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
THE COURT ALSO HEARD ARGUMENTS
00:05:49THIS WEEK ON WHETHER IT WAS
CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT TO
00:05:52SENTENCE A 17-YEAR-OLD WHO
KILLED TWO PEOPLE TO LIFE IN
00:05:55PRISON WITHOUT PAROLE.
ERIC LONG OF CINCINNATI WAS
00:05:57TRIED AS AN ADULT AND CONVICTED
OF SHOOTING INTO AN SUV ON I-75,
00:05:59KILLING TWO PEOPLE WITH WHOM
HE'D FOUGHT WITH EARLIER THAT
00:06:02DAY IN 2009.
FORMER OHIO ATTORNEY GENERAL
00:06:05MARC DANN CAN AGAIN PRACTICE LAW
IN OHIO.
00:06:07THE OHIO SUPREME COURT
REINSTATED HIS LAW LICENSE ON
00:06:10TUESDAY, SAYING DANN
SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLIED WITH THE
00:06:12COURT'S SIX-MONTH SUSPENSION
ORDER.
00:06:15DANN RESIGNED HIS JOB AS
ATTORNEY GENERAL IN 2008 AMID A
00:06:17SEXUAL HARASSMENT SCANDAL AND
LATER PLEADED GUILTY TO ETHICS
00:06:20VIOLATIONS INVOLVING CAMPAIGN
AND TRANSITION FUNDS.
00:06:24A GROUP HAS FORMED TO OPPOSE A
NEW LAW THAT WOULD BAN
00:06:27STOREFRONT SWEEPSTAKES PARLORS
KNOWN AS INTERNET CAFES.
00:06:31THE COMMITTEE TO PROTECT OHIO
JOBS WANTS TO PUT AN INITIATIVE
00:06:35REPEALING THE LAW ON THE BALLOT
NEXT YEAR.
00:06:38THE GROUP WANTS THE LAW REPEALED
TO FORCE LEGISLATORS TO PASS A
00:06:41NEW LAW REGULATING THE INDUSTRY
AND SHUT DOWN WHAT IT CALLS
00:06:44ROGUE SWEEPSTAKES PARLOR
OPERATORS.THE INTERNET CAFÉ
00:06:54BAN HAD PASSED IN THE HOUSE AND
WAS STALLED IN THE SENATE TILL
00:06:57REPUBLICAN LEADERS ANNOUNCED A
SUDDEN PUSH TO GET IT PASSED IN
00:06:59APRIL.
AS MANY AS 800 INTERNET CAFES
00:07:01MAY BE OPERATING IN OHIO, AND
CRITICS SAY THEY REPRESENT
00:07:04GROWING COMPETITION TO LEGALIZED
CASINOS AND CHARITY GAMES.
00:07:07AND OFFICIALS WITH THE OHIO
LOTTERY TOLD THE CONTROLLING
00:07:09BOARD THIS WEEK THAT THEY FEEL
INTERNET CAFES COULD BE PART OF
00:07:12THE REASON WHY TRADITIONAL
LOTTERY SALES ARE DOWN 1% AFTER
00:07:14GROWING FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS.
THERE'S A BILLION DOLLARS ON ITS
00:07:18WAY BACK TO OHIO EMPLOYERS FROM
THE STATE'S BUREAU OF WORKERS
00:07:21COMPENSATION.
THE SO-CALLED "BILLION BACK"
00:07:24PROGRAM IS NOW A REALITY, AFTER
BEING PROPOSED BY GOV. JOHN
00:07:27KASICH AND BWC DIRECTOR STEVEN
BUEHRER LAST MONTH.
00:07:31IN APPROVING THE PROGRAM, THE
BWC'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAS
00:07:36SIGNED OFF ON ALLOWING ONE-TIME
REBATES OF A LITTLE MORE THAN
00:07:40HALF OF THE AMOUNT PAID IN
WORKERS' COMP PREMIUMS LAST YEAR
00:07:43BY 210,000 PUBLIC AND PRIVATE
EMPLOYERS IN OHIO.
00:07:47THE PAYMENTS RANGE FROM AROUND
$5 TO $3 MILLION, AND WILL START
00:07:50GOING OUT AT THE END OF THE
MONTH.
00:07:53BUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
OHIO BUSINESSES SAY THIS DOESN'T
00:07:55CHANGE THE FACT THAT THEY ARE
OWED MONEY BY THE BWC BECAUSE OF
00:07:58A LAWSUIT FILED IN 2011.
SOME 270,000 EMPLOYERS SUED THE
00:08:04BWC FOR OVERCHARGING THEM, AND
WON A JUDGMENT OF $860 MILLION.
00:08:09BUT THAT'S ON APPEAL, SO THOSE
EMPLOYERS HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY
00:08:13MONEY.
BRIAN WRIGHT IS WITH THE GROUP
00:08:16THAT CALLS ITSELF PAY US BACK
OHIO BWC, AND HE SAYS HE THINKS
00:08:20THE BILLION BACK PROGRAM IS A
GREAT DEAL.
00:08:24>> RIGHT NOW THE BUREAU IS
SITTING ON A $9 MILLION SURPLUS.
00:08:27>> AND WRIGHT SAYS HE FEELS THE
-- THIS MONEY IS MONEY THAT
00:08:34BELONGS TO THE EMPLOYERS OF THE
STATE OF OHIO.
00:08:35WE NEED TO GIVE IT BACK SIMPLY
BECAUSE WE DO NOT NEED TO HAVE
00:08:40THAT MUCH MONEY ON HAND.
WE HAVE MORE ON HAND THAN WE
00:08:45COULD POSSIBLY USE.
BILLION BACK IS GREAT.
00:08:48OHIO HAS A STRUGGLING ECONOMY.
ANYTHING TO GET THE MONEY BACK
00:08:52TO THE JOB CREATORS.
NOW, THE BILLION BACK PROGRAM
00:08:57ASIDE, THIS DOES NOT NEGATE THE
OBLIGATION TO PAY $56 BILLION
00:09:03THEY OWE OHIO EMPLOYERS.
>> AND WRIGHT SAYS HE FEELS THE
00:09:08BWC'S DIRECTOR IS SENDING MIXED
MESSAGES WITH HIS SUPPORT FOR
00:09:10THE BILLION BACK PROGRAM AND HIS
CRITICISM OF THE LAWSUIT.
00:09:13>> WE HAVE, WE HAVE BEEN GETTING
HUNDREDS OF E-MAILS.FROM THE
00:09:18DIRECTOR TO THE BOARD. THEY
HAVE BEEN SHOWING THIS GENERAL
00:09:22FORM E-MAIL.
AND HE SAYS HE FEELS THAT
00:09:26REFUNDING THIS $860 MILLION IS
NOT A LEGAL WAY OF USING THE
00:09:32STATE INSURANCE TRUST FUND.
THEY OWE THIS MONEY.
00:09:37THEY CAN SEE THEY OWE ITS.
AND NOW, THEY ARE GOING AHEAD
00:09:41AND REFUNDING $1 BILLION OUT OF
THAT TRUST FUND.
00:09:45IT IS A HUGE CONTRADICTION.
>> THEY SAY THE REFUND IS TO
00:09:53HELP PEOPLE EMPLOYING IN THE
STATE?
00:09:56>> SURE.
THE MAIN THING IS THESE
00:10:01EMPLOYERS WERE FORCED TO
STRUGGLE TO MAKE THESE PAYMENTS
00:10:05TO BE BUREAU.
THOUSANDS OF BUSINESSES WENT OUT
00:10:06OF HIS NOSE.
PEOPLE WERE LAID OFF.
00:10:09I WAS TALKING TO A BUSINESS
OWNER WHO HAD TO TAKE OUT A
00:10:14LOAN TO MAKE HIS BUREAU
PAYMENTS.
00:10:17HE IS STILL PAYING THAT LONG
BACK WITH INTEREST.
00:10:20THAT'S TO MENTION THE ONES THAT
ARE NO LONGER THERE.
00:10:23>> AND WRIGHT SAYS THE TIME TO
SETTLE THIS LAWSUIT WITH THESE
00:10:26EMPLOYERS IS NOW.
>> IT'S THEIR MONEY.THE STATE
00:10:32NEEDS TO STOP PLAYING THESE
LEGAL CLAIMS.
00:10:35IT IS COSTING THE STATE 73,000
A DAY IN INTEREST ALONE FOR EACH
00:10:39DAY THEY DRAG THIS OUT.
IT'S ALMOST $27 MILLION A YEAR.
00:10:47THAT IS A GOOD PAYING JOB EVERY
DAY.
00:10:49>> DO YOU GET A SENSE THAT THE
BILLION BACK PROGRAM WAS A WAY
00:10:55TO MAKE THIS LAWSUIT DISAPPEAR?
THAT THIS MONEY WOULD GET BACK
00:11:01TO THE EMPLOYERS, PERHAPS
DIFFERENT EMPLOYERS.
00:11:02>> YOU KNOW, I REALLY CAN'T
SPECULATE.
00:11:09I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE SUGGEST
ABOUT.
00:11:11THE REALITY IS 816 MILLION
DOLLARS BELONGS TO THESE
00:11:15EMPLOYEES.
THE JUDGE HAS ORDERED THEM TO
00:11:18PAY IT BACK. THEY'D NEED TO DO
THE RIGHT WING.
00:11:20-- THEY NEED TO DO THE RIGHT
THING.
00:11:25>> THE BUREAU OF WORKERS COMP
DID APPEAL THE LAWSUIT IN APRIL
00:11:27IN THE EIGHTH DISTRICT COURT OF
APPEALS IN CUYAHOGA COUNTY.
00:11:30AND A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE
OFFICE SAYS THAT THE AGENCY HAS
00:11:33SET ASIDE $854 MILLION DOLLARS
IN THE EVENT THAT IT WILL BE
00:11:35ORDERED TO PAY AFTER THE APPEALS
PROCESS IS OVER.
00:11:37MEANWHILE, DEMOCRATS ARE ANGRY
THAT GOV. KASICH HAS BEEN
00:11:40MENTIONING THE BILLION BACK
PROGRAM IN FUNDRAISING E-MAILS.
00:11:44REP. TOM LETSON OF WARREN SAID
IN A STATEMENT: [GRAPHIC: "IT IS
00:11:47AS IF THE GOVERNOR IS IMPLYING
THAT A PORTION OF THE REBATE
00:11:49SHOULD BE DIRECTED BACK TO HIM
IN THE FORM OF CAMPAIGN CASH.
00:11:52CERTAINLY, THIS IS NO WAY TO
HANDLE THE MONEY OF INJURED
00:11:58WORKERS AND EMPLOYERS."
OHIO HAS AN OPIUM PROBLEM, AND
00:12:04THAT'S NOT NEWS.
THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
00:12:07SAYS THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WHO
DIED OF OVERDOSES SOARED 440
00:12:10PERCENT FROM 1999 TO 2011, AND
1765 OHIOANS DIED OF OVERDOSES
00:12:12IN 2011 -- THE EQUIVALENT OF
FIVE DEATHS A DAY.
00:12:15BUT THERE'S BIPARTISAN SUPPORT
FOR A BILL THAT HOPES TO PUT A
00:12:18HALT TO THOSE DEATHS.
REPUBLICAN REP. TERRY JOHNSON OF
00:12:21MCDERMOTT IN SOUTHERN OHIO IS
ALSO DR.
00:12:23JOHNSON.
AND HE SAYS MORE NEEDS TO BE
00:12:25DONE TO HELP OHIOANS WHO ARE
ADDICTED TO OPIUM, HEROIN OR
00:12:28OPIATE PAIN KILLERS.>> ONCE YOU
ARE ADDICTED TO AN OPIOID, IT'S
00:12:37A VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS TO
RECOVER FROM.
00:12:38AS A PHYSICIAN, I'M INTERESTED
NOT JUST IN SAVING LIVES, BUT
00:12:46ALSO HEALING PEOPLE.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO RECOVER
00:12:47FROM OPIOID ADDICTION.
IT'S A LONG AND TORTUROUS
00:12:50PROCESS FOR MOST PEOPLE.
>>
00:12:54JOHNSON SAYS A DRUG CALLED
NARCAN OR NALOXONE THAT CAN STOP
00:13:01AN OPIOD OVERDOSE ALMOST
INSTANTLY, IT'S SAFE AND IT
00:13:04CAN'T BE USED TO GET HIGH.
BUT IT'S MOSTLY BEEN USED IN
00:13:06EMERGENCY ROOMS.
HE WANTS TO PUT A NASAL SPRAY
00:13:08VERSION OF THAT DRUG IN THE
HANDS OF FAMILY MEMBERS OF DRUG
00:13:11ADDICTS.
BUT OHIO LAW DOESN'T ALLOW THAT.
00:13:13SO JOHNSON AND DEMOCRATIC REP.
MIKE STINZIANO OF COLUMBUS HOPE
00:13:16TO CHANGE THAT.>> NINE OTHER
STATES HAVE REMOVED THESE
00:13:21REGULATORY BARRIERS AND THEY
ARE A SUCCESS WHEN PROPERLY
00:13:26APPLIED IN REDUCING THE DOSE
RATE -- THE OVERDOSE RATES.
00:13:30>>
LISA ROBERTS IS A NURSE IN
00:13:34SCIOTO COUNTY, WHICH HAS BEEN
HARD HIT BY THE ABUSE OF
00:13:37PAINKILLERS.>> WORLD
COMMUNITIES LIKE MINE HAVE SEEN
00:13:41AN EPIDEMIC OF DESCRIPTION DRUG
ADDICTION, LOTS OF CONSEQUENCES
00:13:46THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.
-- RURAL COMMUNITIES.
00:13:53WE HAVE THE HIGHEST HOMICIDE
RATE IN THE STATE OF OHIO RIGHT
00:13:58NOW.
THESE ARE NEW DEVELOPMENTS FOR
00:13:59RURAL COUNTIES LIKE MINE.
>>
00:14:07AND ROBERTS SAYS NARCAN NOT
ONLY HELPS LOWER THE NUMBER OF
00:14:10OVERDOSES, BUT HAS ALSO BEEN
SHOWN TO STEM THE RISING NUMBERS
00:14:13OF NEW CASES OF HEPATITIS C.
MILES DAWSON OF SOUTHEAST OHIO
00:14:15HAD A PERSONAL STORY TO SHARE ON
WHY HE BACKS THIS IDEA.
00:14:18DAWSON SAYS HE'S OVERDOSED--
>> I GOT HOME FROM REHAB.
00:14:26MY MOM CAME TO VISIT ME.
THE RELAPSE BEGAN.
00:14:29SHE FOUND ME WITH MY BABY
BROTHER LAYING ON THE BED
00:14:32UNCONSCIOUS.
THEY HAD TO WAIT FOR THE
00:14:36PARAMEDICS TO GET THERE AND
TAKE ME TO THE HOSPITAL.
00:14:38BY THE GRACE OF GOD I DID MAKE
IT TO THE HOSPITAL.
00:14:40BUT WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN MY
SUCCESS RATE IF SHE COULD HAVE
00:14:46JUST GIVEN IT TO ME RIGHT THEN
AND THERE?
00:14:47WHAT COULD THE CHANCES HAVE
BEEN?
00:14:50WHAT WHAT IF'S IF I DID NOT MAKE
IT TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM?
00:14:54>>
DAWSON SAYS HE'S OVERDOSED
00:14:59TWICE, BUT SAYS KNOWING THAT A
FAMILY MEMBER HAD THE DRUG THAT
00:15:02COULD SAVE HIM FROM A DRUG-
RELATED DEATH WOULDN'T FREE HIM
00:15:04UP TO TAKE MORE DRUGS BECAUSE HE
LIKE MANY ADDICTS -- DIDN'T
00:15:07THINK HE'D EVER OVERDOSE.
THE BILL HAD ITS FIRST HEARING
00:15:10THIS WEEK.
OHIO'S ECONOMY GREW SLIGHTLY
00:15:12LAST YEAR -- FOR THE THIRD YEAR
IN A ROW.
00:15:14BUT THE 2.2% GROWTH IN THE
STATE'S DOMESTIC PRODUCT STILL
00:15:17WAS BEHIND THE NATIONAL AVERAGE
OF 2.5%.
00:15:20THAT'S YET ANOTHER SIGN THAT THE
STATE'S ECONOMY IS CHUGGING
00:15:23ALONG, AS GOV.
JOHN KASICH AND OTHER STATE
00:15:25LEADERS HAVE BEEN SAYING.
BUT THERE ARE STILL MANY OHIOANS
00:15:28WHO ARE STRUGGLING EVERY DAY.
A REPORT FROM THE OHIO
00:15:30ASSOCIATION OF COMMUNITY ACTION
AGENCIES SHOWS THE COST OF BASIC
00:15:33NEEDS SUCH AS FOOD, HOUSING,
TRANSPORTATION, HEALTH CARE AND
00:15:37CHILD CARE SOARED 23 PERCENT IN
THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
00:15:40AND THE REPORT SAYS OF THE TOP
TEN PROFESSIONS, WHICH EMPLOY A
00:15:42FIFTH OF WORKING OHIOANS, ONLY
ONE OF THOSE -- REGISTERED NURSE
00:15:46PAYS WHAT'S CONSIDERED A LIVING
WAGE.
00:15:50LAST WEEK I TALKED WITH TWO OF
THOSE WHO SEE EVERY DAY HOW THE
00:15:54POOREST OHIOANS ARE LIVING.
LISA HAMLER FUGITT IS THE
00:15:57EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE OHIO
ASSOCIATION OF FOODBANKS, WHICH
00:16:02SERVED MORE THAN 7.8 MILLION
OHIOANS IN THE LAST TWO-YEAR
00:16:04BUDGET CYCLE.
JACK FRECH IS THE DIRECTOR OF
00:16:06ATHENS COUNTY JOB AND FAMILY
SERVICES IN ONE OF THE STATE'S
00:16:09MOST POVERTY-STRICKEN COUNTIES,
AND HE JOINED US WITH THE HELP
00:16:11OF WOUB IN ATHENS.
IN PICKING UP OUR CONVERSATION
00:16:13FROM LAST WEEK, I ASKED THEM TO
TALK A BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THE
00:16:16PEOPLE THEY WORK WITH GOT TO
THIS POINT, AND ABOUT THE
00:16:18CRITICISMS THEY HEAR ABOUT
PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN POVERTY.>>
00:16:23MINIMUM WAGE IN OHIO, THAT
TRANSLATES TO ABOUT $314, WHICH
00:16:30IS NOT VERY MUCH AT ALL.
SOME CRITICS SAY, HEY, MINIMUM
00:16:35WAGE WAS NEVER MEANT FOR CAREERS
FOR ADULT.
00:16:36AND ADULTS WHO ARE PURSUING
CAREERS AND WANT TO HAVE
00:16:41FAMILIES AND LIVES SUFFICIENTLY
NEED TO HAVE JOBS THAT ARE NOT
00:16:47PAYING MINIMUM WAGE.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE FOLKS?
00:16:48>> I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS
A STRUCTURAL IMBALANCE WERE
00:16:54CORPORATE PROFITS ARE STARTING
TO SOAR, BUT WAGES ARE NOT
00:16:58TRACKING TO THOSE CORPORATE
ROCKETS.
00:17:01-- CORPORATE PROFITS.
IT USED TO BE THAT BASIC
00:17:08EDUCATIONAL TRAINING WOULD
ALLOW YOU TO GET A JOB IN THE
00:17:09MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY WHERE
THERE WERE ANGRY MENTAL --
00:17:15INCREMENTAL PAY INCREASES AND
HEALTH CARE.
00:17:21NOW THAT IS NOT THERE.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SOCIAL
00:17:23ONTRACK THAT SAYS YOU GO TO
WORK AND WORK HARD EVERY DAY,
00:17:28AND YOU ARE PAID NOT AN
EXTRAVAGANT WAGE, BUT ONE THAT
00:17:32HOPES TO MAKE YOUR BASIC NEEDS?
THAT'S NOT THE REALITY ANYMORE.
00:17:39AGAIN WE NEED TO PERMIT
INTERVENTION.
00:17:43WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
GIVING TAX CUTS AND TAX BREAKS
00:17:47TO JOB CREATORS THAT PAY LIVABLE
WAGES.
00:17:51>> YOU ARE IN A PART OF THE
STATE WHERE TRANSPORTATION
00:17:57ISSUES ARE A CHALLENGE.
THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF LAYOFFS
00:18:02IN APPALACHIA, OHIO.
PEOPLE SAY, WHY DON'T YOU MOVE
00:18:07TO WHERE THE JOBS ARE?
WHY DON'T PEOPLE JUST MOVE
00:18:11ALONG AND FIND WORK ELSEWHERE?
>> FOR ONE THING, ALMOST
00:18:16EVERYWHERE ELSE, THERE ARE
ALREADY POOR PEOPLE THERE AS
00:18:19WELL.
THERE ARE NO PLACES WHERE THERE
00:18:22IS NO POOR PEOPLE ARE UNEMPLOYED
PEOPLE.
00:18:27THE IDEA OF MOVING TO WHERE
THESE JOBS ARE WAITING IS
00:18:30SOMEWHAT OF A MYTH.
BESIDES, I'M SURE THE FOLKS
00:18:33LIVING IN DELAWARE COUNTY WOULD
BE THRILLED IF 100,000
00:18:38APPALACHIANS MOVED INTO THEIR
COMMUNITY NEXT WEEK.
00:18:44THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT I WOULD
MAKE.
00:18:45WE HAVE IN OHIO BEEN GRANTING
TAX CUTS FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND
00:18:52YEARS, WHICH HAVE ENRICHED
PEOPLE IN SUBURBAN COUNTIES, WHO
00:18:57LET DONE VERY WELL FOR
THEMSELVES.
00:18:59THE MONEY THEY HAVE MADE, THIS
WHOLE IDEA OF THESE FOLKS AS JOB
00:19:04CREATORS, THEY HAVE NOT TAKEN
THAT MONEY AND TURNED AROUND
00:19:10AND INVESTED IT IN LABOR-
INTENSIVE IS MRS. IN APPALACHIA,
00:19:14-- BUSINESSES IN APPALACHIA,
OHIO.
00:19:18NOT ONLY HAVE THEY NOT DONE
THAT.
00:19:20THEY WILL NOT DO THAT. AT
IF THEY WANT TO MAKE MORE MONEY,
00:19:26THEY ARE FOR MORE LIKELY TO BE
INVESTED IN TECHNOLOGY, MORE
00:19:30LIKELY TO BE INVESTING IT IN
OFFSHORE LABOR, AREAS LIKE THAT
00:19:34WILL YIELD THEM A HIGHER RETURN
ON INVESTMENT THAN SOME LABOR-
00:19:38INTENSIVE ACTIVITY HERE IN OHIO.
PARTICULARLY IN THE APPALACHIAN
00:19:41AREA. THAT IS THE ECONOMIC
REALITY.
00:19:43EVEN KNOWING THAT THOUGH, WE
STILL, OUR LEGISLATURE,
00:19:51CONSTANTLY COMES BACK TO THE
SAME APPROACH.
00:19:53WELL, WE SIMPLY HAVE TO CUT
TAXES MORE.
00:19:56WE HAVE TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO
THE ROCKETS OF THE SO-CALLED
00:20:00JOB CREATORS, WHEN IN FACT WE
HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR YEARS
00:20:03AND YEARS AND YEARS AND IT
PROVES TO BE SIMPLY UNTRUE.
00:20:05WE NEED A WHOLE DIFFERENT
MINDSET.
00:20:08>> LET ME ASK YOU BOTH -- WHAT
ROLE DO YOU THINK JOB CREATORS
00:20:15IN THE STATE CAN PLAY?
IS THERE A ROLE FOR INDIVIDUALS?
00:20:19SOME WOULD SAY PERSONAL CHOICES
PLAY A ROLE HERE.
00:20:23PEOPLE DROP OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL
WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T. THEY ARE
00:20:25SINGLE PARENTS WHEN THAT HAS
BEEN SHOWN TO BE AN INDICATOR
00:20:32FOR POVERTY.
THAT MAY BE PERSONAL CHOICES
00:20:34COULD BE DIFFERENT IF PEOPLE
WOULD FIND THEMSELVES ON
00:20:35DIFFERENT PATHS? WHAT DO YOU
SAY?
00:20:38>> WE NEED TO BUILD A DIFFERENT
STRUCTURE.
00:20:44TAKE THE CASE IN POINT OF A
CHILD.
00:20:45NOW WE HAVE 127,000 -- 125,000
CHILDREN FROM LOW-INCOME
00:20:57HOUSEHOLDS.
A LOW INCOME CHILD FALLS BEHIND
00:20:59THEIR NON--POOR PEERS.
IN AREAS OF READING AND MATH.
00:21:07THEY ARE LIKELY TO BE ABSENT
FROM SCHOOL MORE FREQUENTLY
00:21:10BECAUSE OF ILLNESSES.
AGAIN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE
00:21:13HAVE THE SOUP OR -- WE HAVE THE
SUPPORTS LEFT AROUND OUR
00:21:20FAMILIES, BUILDING THE HUMAN
CAPITAL SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO
00:21:23GET THAT EDUCATION, THE SOLID
EDUCATION.
00:21:29I GET TIRED OF HEARING PEOPLE
TALK ABOUT PERSONAL
00:21:34RESPONSIBILITY.
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT SOMEONE
00:21:36WHO IS PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE.
SHE WALKS ON A ROLL ROUTE TWO
00:21:39MILES WITH NO SIDEWALKS TO GET
TO ONE OF OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS
00:21:45TO MAKE SURE HER CHILDREN WERE
BEING ENROLLED IN OUR SUMMER
00:21:50FOOD SERVICE PROGRAM.
SHE CHOSE TREMENDOUS PERSONAL
00:21:55RESPONSIBILITY.
LIKE JACK SAID, HER HUSBAND
00:21:58WORKS.
HE MAKES A DOLLARS AN HOUR, AND
00:22:02THEY THINK TWICE ABOUT EVERY
TRIP MAY MAKE, BECAUSE THAT
00:22:05MEANS IT MAY BE GASSED THAT HE
CAN'T GET TO WORK.
00:22:08AGAIN, WELCOME MILE IN THE
SHOES OF THE POOR.
00:22:12YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
00:22:15>> THERE IS NO DOUBT.
I'VE BEEN AROUND THE WELFARE
00:22:21DEPARTMENT FOR 30 YEARS AND IN
THIS FIELD FOR 40 YEARS.
00:22:24THERE IS NO DOUBT SOME PEOPLE
MAKE ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE
00:22:27CHOICES.
JUST TERRIBLE CHOICES.
00:22:30AND THEY DO HAVE CONSEQUENCES TO
THEM NOW, ALREADY, REAL-LIFE
00:22:34CONSEQUENCES.
THE QUESTION WE NEED TO ASK
00:22:36OURSELVES IS SHOULD ONE OF THE
CONSEQUENCES BE THAT THEY
00:22:39STARVE?
SHOULD THEY BE HOMELESS OR THEIR
00:22:44CHILDREN HAVE NO FOOD AND NO
PLACE TO LIVE?
00:22:46IS THAT THE CONSEQUENCE WE WANT
FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE BAD
00:22:48CHOICES? THE FACT THAT THESE
PEOPLE MAKE BAD CHOICES DOES NOT
00:22:56CHANGE ALL OF THE OTHER REAL-
LIFE FACTS OUT THERE INCLUDING
00:22:59THE FACT THAT THERE IS STILL
RACIAL DISCRIMINATION, THERE IS
00:23:04GENDER DISCRIMINATION, THERE'S
DISCRIMINATION AGAINST PEOPLE
00:23:07WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS, OTHER
ECONOMIC ISSUES I TALKED ABOUT
00:23:09EARLIER.
THERE IS A LACK OF ADEQUATE
00:23:13JOBS.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE EQUALLY
00:23:14TRUE.
WE CAN'T SIMPLY IGNORE THOSE
00:23:19AND BLAME POOR PEOPLE BECAUSE
OF THEIR POOR BEHAVIOR.
00:23:21I WOULD SIMPLY ADD, WHEN YOU
TAKE SOMEONE OFF, YOU TAKE ALL
00:23:29THEIR INCOME.
THE LIKELIHOOD THEY WILL
00:23:31SHOPLIFT SOMETHING OR TAKE
SOMETHING FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS
00:23:34TO SURVIVE GOES UP DRAMATICALLY.
OF COURSE, WHEN THEY DO, WE
00:23:36TURNED AROUND AND TOLD THAT
AGAINST THEM AS A FURTHER
00:23:40FAILURE OF CHARACTER.
WE PUT THEM IN A SITUATION
00:23:42WHERE THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE
CHOICE.
00:23:44I THINK WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC
ABOUT THE COMPLICITY ALL THE
00:23:47REST OF US HAVE IN THIS AND
FULLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE FOLKS
00:23:50MAKE BAD CHOICES AND THEIR ARE
APT TO BE CONSEQUENCES.
00:23:54>> I WANT TO ASK YOU BOTH, WHAT
IS ONE THING THE STATE COULD DO
00:24:02TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE
FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN POVERTY?
00:24:05LISA, GO AHEAD.
>> CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE
00:24:09MINIMUM WAGE, OR IMPLEMENT A
SAFER INCOME TAX CREDIT, MAKING
00:24:15WORK PAY, THE MEDICARE PROGRAM,
AND STOP TAX CUTS TO BUSINESSES
00:24:20WHOSE EMPLOYEES ARE ALSO
RECEIVING PUBLIC BENEFITS.
00:24:24THEY CANNOT BE PAID TWICE.
>> GO AHEAD.
00:24:27>> I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING LISA
JUST SAID.
00:24:29WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT
FINANCIAL CASH ASSISTANCE TO
00:24:36PEOPLE TO AT LEAST MEET THEIR
BASIC NEEDS.
00:24:37WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO EXPAND
MEDICAID.
00:24:41WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
THOSE ARE TWO THINGS WE HAVE TO
00:24:43DO JUST AS A CIVIL SOCIETY TO
SEPARATE US FROM OTHER PARTS OF
00:24:48THE WORLD WERE THEY LET THEIR
PEOPLE SUFFER WITHOUT
00:24:51HEALTHCARE, WITHOUT HAVING THEIR
BASIC NEEDS MET.
00:24:55>> THE REPORT IS AVAILABLE AT
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