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00:00:00>> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
BROADCAST OF "THE STATE OF
00:00:05OHIO" COMES FROM --
>> A FIERY DEBATE TO LAUNCH OUR
00:00:33NEW LOOK THIS WEEK IN "THE
STATE OF OHIO."
00:00:42>> HELLO AND WELCOME.
WE HAVE A BRAND NEW LOOK WITH A
00:00:44NEW SET AND NEW GRAPHICS, AND
WE ARE NOW BEING PRODUCED AND
00:00:47DISTRIBUTED IN HD.
AND TO KICK OFF OUR MAJOR
00:00:50CHANGE, WE HAVE TWO BIG GUESTS
TO TALK ABOUT NEXT YEAR'S HUGE
00:00:52ELECTION.
WE ARE 13 MONTHS FROM THE 2014
00:00:56GENERAL ELECTION, IN WHICH THE
STATE'S FIVE TOP OFFICE HOLDERS
00:01:01WILL BE ON THE BALLOT, ALONG
WITH THE ENTIRE OHIO HOUSE,
00:01:06HALF OF THE OHIO SENATE, AND
THE ENTIRE OHIO CONSCIENCE
00:01:10CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION.
AND THOUGH THAT MAY SEEM LIKE A
00:01:12LONG TIME, IT'S NOT.
SINCE THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET FOR
00:01:132014 IS COMPLETELY FILLED OUT,
AND THE REPUBLICANS HAVE THEIR
00:01:15CANDIDATES LINED UP, IF NOT
ANNOUNCED.
00:01:17BUT THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF
DRAMA AND EXCITEMENT AHEAD.
00:01:20THERE ARE QUESTIONS AND
ALLEGATIONS ABOUT JOBSOHIO,
00:01:23ABOUT CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS,
AND ABOUT THE CUYAHOGA COUNTY
00:01:27CORRUPTION STANLEY.
-- CORRUPTION SCANDAL.
00:01:32THERE'S A TEA PARTY THAT'S
ANGRY ABOUT GOVERNOR JOHN
00:01:33KASICH'S PROPOSED MEDICADE
EXPANSION AND ABOUT THE
00:01:34SPENDING IN HIS BUDGET.
AND THERE'S THE EXPECTATION
00:01:36THAT MANY, MANY MILLIONS WILL
BE RAISED AND SPENT IN WHAT IS
00:01:39LIKELY TO BE ONE OF THE MOST
EXPENSIVE GOVERNOR'S RACES IN
00:01:42OHIO HISTORY.
TO PREVIEW NEXT YEAR'S
00:01:45CAMPAIGNS, I'M PLEASED TO
WELCOME AS MY FIRST GUESTS ON
00:01:47OUR NEW SET THE TWO PEOPLE WHO
WILL GUIDE THE TWO MAJOR
00:01:50PARTIES THROUGH THE NEXT 13
LIVELY, HECTIC, AND MAYBE EVEN
00:01:53CHAOTIC MONTHS.
MATT BORGES IS THE NEW CHAIR OF
00:01:57THE OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY,
ELECTED IN APRIL.
00:02:00STATE REPRESENTATIVE CHRIS
REDFERN OF CATAWBA ISLAND IS IN
00:02:02HIS THIRD TERM AS CHAIR OF THE
OHIO DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
00:02:06BOTH OF YOU, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
00:02:09I AM THRILLED TO HAVE YOU AS
OUR FIRST GUESTS ON THE NEW
00:02:12SET.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:02:14>> THRILLED TO BE HERE.
>> BEFORE WE GET IN DEPTH, I
00:02:17WANT TO ASK YOU BOTH JUST IN
ONE SENTENCES THAT SUMMARIZES
00:02:22WHAT YOUR CAMPAIGN'S ROLE WILL
BE LIKE NEXT YEAR, WHAT IS YOUR
00:02:28PRINCIPLE GOING FORWARD?
MATT, LET ME ASK YOU FIRST.
00:02:31GIVE ME ONE SENTENCES ABOUT
WHAT THE OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY
00:02:37IS GOING TO BE ABOUT NEXT YEAR?
>> DO WIE WANT TO KEEP MOVING
00:02:41FORWARD, GETTING MORE JOBS IN
THE WORK FORCE, OR DO WE WANT
00:02:45TO GO BACK TO THE POLICIES OF
TED STRICKLAND, WHEN WE
00:02:48INHERITEDED A MASSIVE BUDGET
DEFICIT FROM THE DEMOCRATS WHO
00:02:51RAN THE OHIO HOUSE AND THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE?
00:02:55I THINK VOTERS HAVE A VERY
STARK CHOICE AHEAD OF THEM AND
00:03:00WILL MAKE IT BASED ON WHETHER
WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO MOVE THE
00:03:04STATE FORWARD AND GET OHIO
WORKING AND GO BACK TO THE
00:03:07FAILED POLICIES OF THE PAST.
>> LONG SENTENCES, BUT ONE
00:03:11SENTENCES.
CHRIS REDFERN, GO AHEAD.
00:03:12>> ELECTIONS ARE ABOUT CHOICES,
AND THE CHOICES WE PRESENT ARE
00:03:16AN F.B.I. AGENT, SOMEBODY WHO
HAS TURNED AROUND CUYAHOGA
00:03:20COUNTY.
AND A FECLLESS LEADER.
00:03:23WE FALL BEHIND ALMOST EVERY
STATE IN THE UNION IN ANY
00:03:28IMPORTANT MARKER, AND AT THE
COST OF THE TAXPAYERS, WHILE
00:03:31THOSE AROUND THE GOVERNOR ARE
REWARDED.
00:03:33>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
SPECIFIC ISSUES.
00:03:35FOR MOST, THE ECONOMY IS THE
ECONOMY.
00:03:40I WANT TO ASK YOU HOW YOU ARE
GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY
00:03:44NEXT YEAR.
FOR A WHILE, SEEMED TO BE
00:03:47IMPROVING IN THE ECONOMY.
THAT CAME UP IN THE 2012
00:03:50ELECTION, AND THAT WAS WHO WAS
TAKING CREDIT VERSUS BLAME.
00:03:53LET ME ASK YOU, MATT, HOW ARE
YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE
00:03:56ECONOMY NEXT YEAR IN THE
CAMPAIGN?
00:03:58>> 165,000 NEW JOBS IN THE WORK
FORCE SINCE REPUBLICANS TOOK
00:04:02OFFICE IN 2011.
A LOT OF WORK TO CONTINUE TO
00:04:05DO.
BUT IT IS THE CONSERVATIVE AND
00:04:06THE SOUND PRINCIPLED LEADERSHIP
OF GOVERNOR KASICH AND THE OHIO
00:04:12LEADERSHIP THAT HAVE MOVED OHIO
IN THAT DIRECTION, ESPECIALLY
00:04:15CONSIDERING WHAT WE INHERITED
FROM THE DEMOCRATS, FROM THE
00:04:18FAILED POLICIES OF TED
STRICKLAND AND WHEN THE
00:04:22DEMOCRATS CRAWLED THE OHIO
HOUSE THAT LEFT US IN SOME POOR
00:04:27CONDITIONS.
SO IT IS A LONG ROAD BACK, AND
00:04:30OHIO IS WELL ON ITS WAY.
THE CHOICE IS GOING TO BE
00:04:35WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO
CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD OR
00:04:37WHETHER WE WANT TO TURN OHIO'S
RECOVERY OVER TO A CANDIDATE
00:04:42WHO IS RIGHT NOW IN THE COUNTY
THAT HAS THE HIGHEST JOB LOSS
00:04:47OF ANY CITY IN THE COUNTRY FOR
FOUR CONSECUTIVE MONTHS BECAUSE
00:04:53OF HIGH TAXES, BECAUSE OF THE
INABILITY TO BALANCE BUDGETS.
00:04:57HERE IN OHIO AT THE STATE
LEVEL, JOHN KASICH AND THE
00:05:01REPUBLICANS WHO RUN THE STATE
LEGISLATURE, PA BALANCED THE
00:05:07BUDGET, CUT TAXES, INFUSED IT
BACK INTO THE ECONOMY AND THE
00:05:11RESULTS ARE EVIDENT.
165,000 NEW JOBS IN THE WORK
00:05:13FORCE AND REALLY MAKING SOME
STRIDES TO COME BACK FROM THE
00:05:16DAYS FROM THE OHIO DEMOCRATS
AND THEIR FAILED LEADERSHIP.
00:05:20>> CHRIS, LET ME ASK YOU TO
JUMP IN.
00:05:23>> MATT, DO YOU THINK THE
COLLAPSE OF THE GLOBAL ECONOMY
00:05:27FALLS SQUARELY ON THE SHOULDERS
OF TED STRICKLAND.
00:05:30JOHN KASICH CONTINUES TO REFUSE
TO ENDORSE THE AMERICAN
00:05:35AUTOMOBILE RESCUE, RESPONSIBLE
FOR 800,000 JOBS IN THIS STATE
00:05:40AND THE RECOVER WE ARE
WITNESSING ACROSS THE MIDWEST.
00:05:43INSPITE OF IT, THE POLICIES
THAT YOU TRUMPET, SHIFTING THE
00:05:48WEIGHT OF THE TAX BURDEN ON TO
THE SHOULDERS OF SENIORS AND
00:05:52THE MIDDLE CLASS, IT HAS BEEN
REJECTED BY MY PARTY AND THE
00:05:56TEA PARTY.
THEY UNDERSTAND THAT SHIFTING
00:05:58THE BURDEN ON TO THOSE WHO CAN
LEAST AFFORD IT IS PRECISELY
00:06:02THE WRONG APPROACH.
IF WE WERE TO USE ANY KIND OF
00:06:04MARKER TO SUGGEST THAT OHIO IS
LEADING THE COUNTRY OR IS PART
00:06:08OF A MIRACLE, WE WOULDN'T USE
THE FACT THAT WE ARE 47TH IN
00:06:13NEW JOB GROWTH, 44TH OVER THE
COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR IN NEW
00:06:16JOB GROWTH HERE IN THE STATE OF
OHIO COMPARED TO THE REST OF
00:06:21THE COUNTRY.
THE GOVERNOR'S POLICIES HAVE
00:06:24FAILED THOSE WORKING FOR A
LIVING.
00:06:26RATHER THAN FOCUS ON BUILDING
MANUFACTURING JOBS, WHAT HAS HE
00:06:29DONE?
HE HAS INVESTED IN THOSE
00:06:32CLOSEST AROUND HIM, THE
LOBBYISTS.
00:06:35YOU KNOW THAT $3 BILLION TAX
CUT?
00:06:38IS FORS WEALTHYIEST OHIOANS.
>> CLEARLY NOT TRUE.
00:06:44>> IF I ANY MY, NOT FOR THE
STEEL WORKER.
00:06:49YOUR FRIENDS GET HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF TAX
00:06:54CUTS.
THE END RESULT, YOU ARE NOT
00:06:58INVESTING IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
IN GOVERNOR KASICH'S SCHOOL
00:07:00DISTRICT, IN WESTERVILLE, $6
MILLION IN CUTS THERE ALONE.
00:07:05IT IS THE WRONG DIRECTION.
>> NEEDLESS TO SAY I DISAGREE
00:07:10WITH ALMOST EVERYTHING YOU HAVE
RECEIVED.
00:07:12THE 165 THOUSAND OFFICE ANNALS
WHO HAVE ENTERED THE WORK WOULD
00:07:18DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE
SAYING.
00:07:22OHIO'S UNEMPLOYMENT RATE HAS
DROPPED ALMOST TWO POINTS SINCE
00:07:29GOVERNOR STRICKLAND.
IT WAS OVER 10% IN NORTHEAST
00:07:33OHIO, WHERE THEY HAVE SEEN THAT
RATE DROP.
00:07:35THOSE PEOPLE WOULD DISAGREE
WITH YOU.
00:07:37YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET OUT OF
THOSE PROBLEMS BITE SITTING ON
00:07:41YOUR HANDS.
IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE
00:07:42INNOVATIVE APPROACHES TO HOW WE
ARE GOING TO DEAL WITH
00:07:45GOVERNMENT SPENDING AND MAKING
OHIO A MORE BUSINESS-FRIENDLY
00:07:48ENVIRONMENT, WHICH IS EXACTLY
WHAT THE GOVERNOR AND THE
00:07:52LEGISLATURE HAS SOUGHT OUT TO
DO.
00:07:54IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND
ADDED JOBS TO THE ECONOMY.
00:07:56BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE OF
THOSE APPROACHES, OHIOAN ARE
00:08:01GETTING BACK TO WORK.
>> NEW JOB GROWTH, WE ARE 44TH.
00:08:07WE HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE TODAY AS WE
00:08:10DID IN 2010.
SO OTHER THAN BUMPER STICKER
00:08:14SUGGESTIONS AND TALKING POINTS,
WHAT PROOF IS THERE?
00:08:17THERE ARE MORE CHILDREN LIVING
IN THIS STATE IN POVERTY THAN
00:08:19AT ANY TIME IN THIS STATE'S
HISTORY.
00:08:22THAT IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY
OF THIS GOVERNOR?
00:08:25>> WE ARE WE MOVE FORWARD.
THAT IS HOW WE GET OUT OF THE
00:08:30PROBLEMS THAT WERE
"SPORTSCENTER"ED BY THE
00:08:33DEMOCRATS WHEN WE ENHATED A
BUDGET DEFICIT, THE 4,000 JOBS
00:08:39THAT LEFT THE STATE.
WE ARE CLIMBING OUR WAY BACK.
00:08:42>> AND HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT
TODAY --
00:08:44>> TO GET OHIOANS BACK TO WORK.
>> THERE ARE 4,000 OHIOANS
00:08:51UNEMPLOYED TODAY, AND THE
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS EXACTLY IT
00:08:57WAS UNDER STRICKLAND.
>> IT IS U.S.S. OVER 7% NOW,
00:09:04AND UNDER TED STRICKLAND, IT
WAS 10%.
00:09:09>> 44TH IN JOB GROWTH.
THOSE NUMBERS ARE WRONG?
00:09:13>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP
00:09:19BEFORE OTHERS BEFORE.
THE WEALTHY HAVE GOTTEN A
00:09:22BIGGER SHARE OF THE INCOME TAX
CUT, WHERE AS THE PEOPLE AT THE
00:09:25BOTTOM OF THE SCALE ARE PAYING
MORE IN SALES TAX, BECAUSE THE
00:09:29SALES TAX DID INCREASE TO
OFFSET THE INCREASE TAX
00:09:37INCREASE.
YOU ARE SAYING THAT IS NOT?
00:09:39>> IT IS NOT.
IT BOILS DOWN TO THE
00:09:42FUNDAMENTAL VISIONS BETWEEN THE
TWO FOR THE STATE.
00:09:48DO THEY NEED TO KEEP THEIR TAX
DOLLARS OR DOES THE GOVERNMENT
00:09:53KNOW HOW TO SPEND IT BETTER?
THE AREA'S AGENCY AGING CAME
00:09:58OUT IN SUPPORT OF THE
GOVERNOR'S TAX CUTS THAT THE
00:10:02LEGISLATURE PASSED.
THESE ARE NOT THE WEALTHY
00:10:05ORGANIZATIONS IN THE STATE THAT
ARE CLAMORING FOR HUGE CUTS.
00:10:08THEY KNOW IN ORDER TO CHANGE
THE BUSINESS CLIMATE IN THE
00:10:11STATE WE HAD TO CHANGE THE TAX
STRUCTURE.
00:10:13SO MAKING OHIO A
BUSINESS-FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT,
00:10:16WHICH SEVERAL NATIONAL
PUBLICATIONS HAVE RECOGNIZED
00:10:19AND MOVED UP SIGNIFICANTLY IN
OUR RANKINGS IN TERMS OF MAKING
00:10:24OHIO BUSINESS-FRIENDLY WILL
ALLOW BUSINESS TOSS WANT TO
00:10:26COME HERE AND INVEST HERE.
THEN WE CAN GET OHIOANS BACK TO
00:10:33WORK.
>> WHEN WILL THAT OCCUR?
00:10:36>> IT IS HAPPENING.
>> WE ARE 44TH IN THE COUNTRY.
00:10:38A SUGGESTION THAT A STEEL
WORKER IN THE STATE GOT THE
00:10:40SAME AMOUNT OF TAX CUTS AS THE
C.E.O. OF BOB EVANS IS FLAT-OUT
00:10:46FALSE.
>> THE SUGGESTION WAS --
00:10:49>> THE SUGGESTION OF A SENIOR
WHO WILL SEE HER PROPERTY TAXES
00:10:52INCREASE BECAUSE IT WAS THE
GOVERNOR OF THE STATE, JOHN
00:10:55KASICH, WHO STRIPPED AWAY THE
HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WHO
00:10:58STRIPPED AWAY PROPERTY TAX
ROLL-BACKS.
00:11:01>> NOT TO ANYONE USING IT NOW.
>> GEARED TOWARDS SENIORS.
00:11:05MATT, THE SUGGESTION THAT THE
C.E.O. OF BOB EVANS IS BEING
00:11:08TREATED EXACTLY THE SAME AS A
SENIOR OR A STEEL WORKER IS ON
00:11:12ITS FACE A FALSEHOOD.
WE ARE 44TH IN THE COUNTRY.
00:11:16IF WE WERE 1ST IN THE COUNTRY
OR 10TH IN THE COUNTRY OVER THE
00:11:20LAST FOUR YEARS SINCE JOHN
KASICH HAS BEEN GOVERNOR, THEN
00:11:25PERHAPS YOU COULD MAKE THE
TALKING POINTS WORK.
00:11:27BUT THE NUMBERS DON'T WORK.
>> THE 44TH, WHERE ARE YOU
00:11:30GETTING THE NUMBERS?
>> A RESEARCH INDICATOR --
00:11:33>> YOU ARE PICKING A RANDOM
SAMPLE THAT DOES NOT
00:11:38ENCAPSULATE THE ENTIRETY OF
GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH'S TENURE.
00:11:43SINCE JOHN KASICH TOOK OFFICE,
THESE ARE IRREFUTABLE FACTS.
00:11:47UNEMPLOYMENT HAS COME DOWN 2%
IN THE STATE.
00:11:50165,000 MORE JOBS HAVE BEEN
INFUSED INTO THIS ECONOMY.
00:11:54WE HAVE MADE IB INVESTMENTS IN
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT DEMOCRATS
00:11:57OPPOSED.
WE HAVE ASKED FOR AND GOTTEN $3
00:12:00BILLION IN TAX CUTS FOR ALL
OHIOANS THAT WILL ENJOY THAT
00:12:05WILL HELP MAKE OHIO A
BUSINESS-FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT.
00:12:08WE HAVE LOOKED AT NEW PROGRAMS
TO BRING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS
00:12:12IN THE STATE THAT DEMOCRATS
CONTINUE TO ATTACK.
00:12:15THAT IS MAKING THE CHOICE FOR
NEXT YEAR VERY CLEAR AND STARK.
00:12:18DO WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THE
OLD DAYS THAT DIDN'T WORK?
00:12:21WHERE ARE WE IN TERMS OF JOB
CREATION UNDER TED STRIKE LAND?
00:12:27400,000 JOBS LEFT THE STATE.
>> WE INVESTED MORE IN PUBLIC
00:12:31EDUCATION THAN ANY OTHER TIME
IN OUR STATE'S HISTORY.
00:12:34WE SHIFTED THE BURDEN FROM
TAX-PAYING SENIORS ON TO THE
00:12:38SHOULDERS OF THOSE WHO COULD
ACCEPT IT, AND NOW WITH AN
00:12:42INCREASE ON THE MIDDLE INCOME
EARNERS.
00:12:45ARE YOU REJECTING THE NOTION
THAT WE ARE 44TH IN THE COUNTRY
00:12:49IN JOB GROWTH?
>> OVER THE COURSE OF THE
00:12:52GOVERNOR'S TERM, OF COURSE NOT.
>> YOU REJECT THE NOOKT THAT WE
00:12:58ARE GOING TO FIX EVERYTHING.
MOST ON THE BOARD HAVE BEEN
00:13:05IMPLICATED AND SUGGESTED THAT
THEY HAVE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS
00:13:09OF INTEREST.
AND $1 BILLION OF TAXPAYERS'
00:13:13MONEY IS GOING TO BE SPENT
PRIVATELY BY THESE CORREIA'S TO
00:13:18BENEFIT WHOM?
ACCORDING TO REPORTS, TO
00:13:22BENEFIT THEMSELVES.
BOB EVANS, BENEFITS THE
00:13:29C.E.O.'S, MOVED ACROSS TIME TO
BE CLOSER TO THE GOLF COURSE.
00:13:35>> THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT
DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN SEIZING ON,
00:13:41NOW JUST BECAUSE OF THE JOBS
THAT JOBSOHIO SAYS IT HAS BEEN
00:13:46INSTRUMENTAL IN CREATING.
THERE IS A PUBLIC PERCEPTION
00:13:49PROBLEM WITH JOBSOHIO.
HOW CAN YOU SELL IT AS A PUBLIC
00:13:53ENTITY WHEN THERE IS A PROBLEM
WITH HOW IT IS SEEN?
00:13:59>> GETTING OHIOANS BACK TO
WORK, ADDING DELB.3 BILLION --
00:14:09$9.3 BILLION IS THE GOAL.
THE DEMOCRATS WANT TO TAKE IT
00:14:12BACK TO THE BROKEN WALES OF THE
TED STRICKLAND ADMINISTRATION.
00:14:16IT IS THE ONLY PRIVATE COMPANY
THAT RELEASES AN INDEPENDENT
00:14:21AUDIT TO THE PUBLIC EVERY YEAR.
AND FITZGERALD, WHO RUNS A
00:14:24SIMILAR PROGRAM, NONE OF THOSE
FOLKS ARE REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE
00:14:28ANY OF THEIR FINANCIALS.
THEY DON'T RECEIVE ETHICS
00:14:33TRAINING.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE
00:14:35SAME CONFLICT OF INTEREST
POLICIES.
00:14:38>> AND SIMILAR?
>> AND BY THE WAY, AS
00:14:40FITZGERALD HAS SAID, HE
WOULDN'T GET RID OF JOBSOHIO.
00:14:43>> WHAT HE HAS SAID IS HE WOULD
CHANGE IT AND MAKES IT
00:14:47TRANSPARENT TO THE PEOPLE OF
OHIO.
00:14:49>> SO HE WANTS TO CHANGE IT AND
DOING IT THE WAY THEY ARE
00:14:53COMING IT IN CUYAHOGA COUNTY?
NO THANK YOU.
00:14:55>> WITH AWE DUE RESPECT, READ
WHERE IT WAS REPORTED THAT $5
00:14:59MILLION OF OUR TAXPAYERS' MONEY
WAS SPENT TO SEND VERIZON JOBS
00:15:06TO COLUMBUS WITH NO NET GAIN IN
JOBS.
00:15:11>> A GAIN IN JOBS.
>> UNTRUTH.
00:15:14>> 2,400 JOBS WOULD HAVE LEFT
THE STATE --
00:15:17>> I CHALLENGE YOU TO PRESENT
FACTUALLY THAT THIS VERIZON IS
00:15:21EXPANDING.
IT WAS VERIZON WHO SUGGESTED
00:15:22THAT NO, THE GOVERNOR WAS
WRONG.
00:15:24WE WOULD NOT EXPAND AT THE RATE
THE GOVERNOR HAS SUGGESTED.
00:15:28AND YOU SHIFT THOSE JOBS FROM
ONE START PART OF THE STATE TO
00:15:32THE NEXT, PUN URBINAING
YOUNGSTOWN TO BENEFIT ANOTHER
00:15:35CITY.
WHETHER IT IS SHIFTING RIDDLE
00:15:38JOBS FROM URN -- UURBANA TO
OTHER PLACE.
00:15:48IF NOT, I COULDN'T SIT HERE AND
SAY 44TH IN THE COUNTRY.
00:15:53TED STRICKLAND LAND'S WAY WOULD
HAVE BEEN TO LEAVE THEM AROUND
00:15:57THE STATE.
WE SAVED 2,400 JOBS FOR
00:16:06OHIOANS.
THEY ARE STILL IN THE STATE.
00:16:09THE UNEMPLOYMENT PERCENTAGE HAS
GONE TO ABOUT 7% NOW.
00:16:13WHILE THERE ARE INSTANCES THAT
JOBS ARE MOVING AROUND, THAT
00:16:16HAS HAPPENED IN CUYAHOGA
COUNTY, TOO.
00:16:19AND THEY HAVE CHAMPIONED THAT
SO THAT THEY DON'T LEAVE OHIO
00:16:22AND GO TO MICHIGAN,
PENNSYLVANIA OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.
00:16:25>> AND YOU SIT HERE WITH A
STRAIGHT FACE.
00:16:29THE AMERICAN AUTOMOBILE RESCUE
IS IN LARGE PART WHY TOLEDO,
00:16:34YOUNGSTOWN AND OTHER GREAT
CITIES IN THE STATE ARE
00:16:37EXPANDING.
>> YOU ARE AWARE THAT THERE ARE
00:16:40FEWER AMERICANS WORKING IN THE
AUTO INDUSTRY TODAY THAN WHEN
00:16:43THE BAILOUT TOOK OUT.
>> YOU ARE STILL OPPOSED TO THE
00:16:47RESCUE?
>> OF COURSE THAT ISN'T WHAT I
00:16:49SAID.
>> RIGHT.
00:16:50>> BUT NOW YOU ARE IN A
DIFFICULT SPOB
00:16:53>> A
>> BUT THE FIGURES ON THE DROP
00:16:56IN UNEMPLOYMENT IS INCORRECT.
>> AND AS A PALKING POINT FOR
00:17:02JOHN KASICH'S FAILED POLICY,
YOU CANNOT SAY THAT YOU ARE
00:17:04OPPOSED TO THE AUTO RESCUE
TODAY BECAUSE IT WORKS.
00:17:08>> 165,000 NEW JOBS IS NOT A
FAILED POLICY.
00:17:12>> I WANT TO ASK ABOUT
JOBSOHIO.
00:17:15YOU HAVE MADE THIS A KEY PART
OF THE DEMOCRATS' CAMPAIGN NEXT
00:17:18YEAR.
HOW DO YOU TRANSLATE THAT TO
00:17:20VOTERS?
I AM WONDERING IF VOTERS ARE
00:17:22CONCERNED ABOUT THIS?
THEY ARE HEARING THAT THE
00:17:25UNEMPLOYMENT RATE HAS DROPPED.
IT DID DROP FROM WHEN TED
00:17:29STRICKLAND WAS IN OFFICE TO
NOW.
00:17:33HOW DO YOU CONVINCE THAT
JOBSOHIO IS A BAD THING WITH NO
00:17:37CHARGES FILED?
>> I AM ALWAYS TROUBLED WHEN WE
00:17:41EMBRACE FAILED STATISTICS.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THE
00:17:45UNEMPLOYMENT RAID TODAY IN OHIO
IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE
00:17:48NATIONAL UNEMPLOYMENT RATE, AS
IT WAS IN 2010 DURING TED'S
00:17:53FINAL YEAR.
THE RATES HAVE MET.
00:17:55THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THIS
IS A NATIONAL RECOVERY FUELED
00:17:59BY THE AMERICAN AUTOMOBILE
RESCUE AND INVESTMENTS IN
00:18:03INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WERE MADE
DURING THE STIMULUS PROJECTS
00:18:06THAT WERE FUNDED.
AND JUST YESTERDAY, JOHN KASICH
00:18:09TRIED TO TAKE CREDIT FOR THE
NELSONVILLE BYPASS WHICH WAS
00:18:14FUNDED BY THE STIMULUS.
$1 BILLION IN TAXPAYER MONEY
00:18:18GEARED TOWARDS C.E.O.'S TO MAKE
DECISIONS IN PRIVATE TO BENEFIT
00:18:21THEMSELVES.
WOULD YOU BE SURPRISED THAT A
00:18:23MAJORITY OF THOSE C.E.O.'S ON
JOBSOHIO HAVE BENEFITED
00:18:28PERSONALLY FROM THE RESOURCES
THAT THE TAXPAYERS PROVIDE.
00:18:32>> IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS
GOING TO DRIVE PEOPLE TO THE
00:18:35BALLOT?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
00:18:37THEY ARE GOING TO BE VOTING ON
WHETHER OR NOT PROPERTY TAX
00:18:41ISSUES IN WESTERVILLE OR OTHER
PARTS OF OHIO THAT NEEDED TO BE
00:18:46INCREASED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL,
IF THAT IS THE BEST APPROACH.
00:18:49IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE MORE THAN
400,000 OHIOANS UNEMPLOYED, YOU
00:18:55ARE GOING TO BE VOTING ON THOSE
ISSUES.
00:18:58IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE TEA
PARTY, AND JOHN SAID THERE IS A
00:19:02MEMBER OF THE TEA PARTY, AND
NOW HE IS A CONVERT TO OBAMA
00:19:08CARE.
I AM GLAD HE IS SHOULDER TO
00:19:10SHOULDER.
I WISH HE HADN'T CRITICIZED THE
00:19:13PRESIDENT.
IT IS LIKE YOUR POSITION AND MY
00:19:15POSITION ON MARRIAGE EQUALITY.
I ONLY WISH THE GOVERNOR WOULD
00:19:19EMBRACE THESE KINDS OF ISSUES,
BECAUSE FRANKLY I THINK HE
00:19:23COULD WIN ON THEM.
BUT HE IS A HYPOCRITE ON THEM
00:19:27AND THE PEOPLE WILL JUDGE HIM
ACCORDINGLY.
00:19:30>> DO YOU KNOW WHO THE MEMBERS
OF ED FITZGERALD AS BOARD ARE?
00:19:33>> I DO.
>> THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DISCLOSED
00:19:37TO THE PRUFFLE, SO YOU HAVE
PRIVATE INFORMATION.
00:19:40ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS HAS HAD TO
RESIGN BECAUSE SHE WAS THE
00:19:42TARGET OF A CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION.
00:19:46AND THIS IS THE KIND OF CHANGE
THAT ED FITZGERALD WANTS TO
00:19:50BRING TO A PROGRAM THAT HAS
ADDED 165,000 JOBS TO THE
00:19:54STATE.
>> DO YOU REALIZE THAT BOB
00:19:57EVANS WAS GIVEN $10 MILLION BY
THE STATE OF OHIO TO MOVE THE
00:20:02C.E.O. CLOSER TO A GOLF COURSE?
ARE YOU AWARE THAT VERIZON CUT
00:20:09400 JOBS?
>> ARE YOU WEAR THAT COMPANIES
00:20:12HAVE HAVE MOVED FROM ONE TOWN
TO THE NEXT SO WE DIDN'T END UP
00:20:16LOSING THESE JOBS TO OTHER
STATES.
00:20:18THAT IS THE WHOLE IDEA TO KEEP
PEOPLE WORKING.
00:20:20>> IF YOU WANT TO COMPARE THE
RECORD OF A FORMER F.B.I. AGENT
00:20:27WITH THAT OF THE CORRUPT
LEADERSHIP OF THIS GOVERNOR, I
00:20:30LOOK FORWARD TO THIS CAMPAIGN.
>> THAT IS AN OUT OF BOUNDS,
00:20:34BEYOND THE PALE STATEMENT TO
MAKE.
00:20:38YES, I WILL COMPARE THE 165,000
NEW JOBS ADDED BY THIS
00:20:41GOVERNOR.
THE LAST MAN IN CONGRESS TO
00:20:44BALANCE THE FEDERAL BUDGET, HIS
CHOPS TO WHAT THE DEMOCRATS
00:20:49WANT TO BRING BACK TO OHIO.
THE 400,000 LOST JOBS.
00:20:52>> LET'S MOVE ON FROM THIS.
>> QUIET ON THE GOVERNMENT
00:20:56SHUT-DOWN.
>> LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT
00:20:58ABOUT THE ACTUAL ELECTION IN
2014, AND SPECIFICALLY ABOUT
00:21:01THE TEA PARTY.
YOU HAVE TEA PARTY VOTERS WHO
00:21:04SAID THEY WORKED FOR JOHN
KASICH LAST TIME, BUT THEY
00:21:07DON'T INTEND TO WORK FOR HIM OR
VOTE FOR HIM.
00:21:10THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HIS
STANCE ON MEDICADE SCHANGS AND
00:21:14THE EXPANSION OF THE BUDGET.
WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT THAT?
00:21:18>> WE HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO
TEA PARTY PEOPLE ACROSS THE
00:21:26STATE.
THE MOVEMENT IS STILL ALIVE AND
00:21:28WELL.
I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO
00:21:30BRINGING THAT COALITION
TOGETHER.
00:21:32IF I WERE THE DEMOCRATS, I
WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT
00:21:34THEIR COALITION RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE ONE OF THE LEADING
00:21:37AFRICAN-AMERICAN LEADERS IN THE
COUNTRY, WHO IS A CLEVELAND AND
00:21:41CLEVELAND AREA MEMBER OF
CONGRESS IN MARSHALL FLETCHER,
00:21:47-- IN MARCIA FLETCHER, WHO
WON'T ENDORSE THE DEMOCRATIC
00:21:53CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR.
WHAT WE ARE SEEING HERE IN OHIO
00:21:56IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT
THOSE ISSUES THAT BRING
00:21:59REPUBLICANS TOGETHER.
AND WHEN THEY FIND OUT ABOUT ED
00:22:03FITZGERALD'S PLAN TO TAX-FREE
STUFF.
00:22:06HE WANTS TO TAX-FREE HOTEL
ROOMS.
00:22:09HE WANTS TO CONTINUE TO RAISE
TAXES AND REVERT BACK.
00:22:13>> DOESN'T HE WANT TO EXPAND
THE SALES TAX?
00:22:16>> HE DID.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED AS THEY
00:22:19WOULD SAY ON THE REPUBLICAN
SIDE OF THE AISLE.
00:22:21>> THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE
ENDORSED THIS GOVERNOR'S TAX
00:22:25CUTS, THESE ARE NOT
ORGANIZATIONS OF -- THE OHIO
00:22:30ASSOCIATION OF FOOD BANKS
ENDORSED THE GOVERNOR.
00:22:33THE $3 BILLION IN TAX CUTS THAT
HELPED MAKE OHIO A BETTER
00:22:37BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT AND GET
BACK TO WORK.
00:22:40>> I WANT TO MOVE ON --
>> YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY TO
00:22:44DISCUSS TAXES, PERSONALLY AND
PROFESSIONALLY WITH THE LEENS
00:22:49YOU FACE.
SECONDLY, I WOULD PUT MY RECORD
00:22:51AND GOVERNOR TED STRICKLAND'S
RECORD AGAINST YOURS AND JOHN
00:22:56KASICH ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
IF I MAY, THE FACT OF THE
00:23:00MATTER IS THOSE 400,000 OHIOANS
WHO ARE UNAPPLIED TODAY, DO
00:23:06THEY GET THEIR TAXES CUT?
>> WE HEARD EXACTLY WHAT WE
00:23:09NEED TO HEAR.
PUT THE RECORD OF 400,000 JOBS
00:23:14UP AGAINST --
>> YOU CAN SHOUT ME DOWN, BUT
00:23:17YOU CANNOT DEFEND THE TEA
PARTY'S REACTION TO YOU.
00:23:21DO YOU BELIEVE YOURSELF TO BE A
MEMBER OF THE TEA PARTY, YES OR
00:23:25NOT?
YOU CANNOT SAY YES BECAUSE THE
00:23:28POLICIES --
>> WHAT I CAN SAY IS ABOUT
00:23:32THESE ATTACKS ON THE GOVERNOR.
THEY CALLED THE GOVERNOR THE
00:23:36DEVIL BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOTHING
TO TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF WHAT
00:23:40DEMENTS HAVE DONE TO IMPROVE
THE STATE.
00:23:42THERE IS NO PLAN MOVED FORWARD.
>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT ED
00:23:46FITZGERALD.
WHAT IS HIS PLAN SPECIFICALLY
00:23:47ON TAXES, BRIEFLY HERE THAT
WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT
00:23:51GOVERNOR KASICH IS TALKING
ABOUT?
00:23:52>> IF I MAY, THE TAX POLICIES
OF THIS STATE SHOULD BE FAIR,
00:23:56AND THEY SHOULD BE PROGRESSIVE,
AND THEY SHOULD FALL WEIGHTED
00:24:00ON THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD IT,
VERSUS THOSE TODAY CAN'T.
00:24:04MATT, YOU HAVE CUT TAXES FOR
THE HIGHEST AMONG US.
00:24:09>> DOES ED FITZGERALD PLAN TO
MAKE ANY MAHAN CHANGES?
00:24:12>> THE RESOLVE IS YOU CUT THE
THINGS IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS,
00:24:18INCLUDING THE HOME OF THE
GOVERNOR.
00:24:20THIS IS WHAT WE KNOW, MATT.
YOU DON'T PAY YOUR TAXES, AND
00:24:23YOU WANT TO SHIFT THE BURDEN TO
THE WEAKEST AMONG US.
00:24:26THOSE ARE THE FACTS.
>> WHAT ABOUT ED FITZGERALD'S
00:24:29PLAN?
DOES HE PLAN TO CONTINUE THE
00:24:30CUTS?
>> WE ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THERE
00:24:32SHOULD BE TAX FAIRNESS AND THAT
THOSE WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO
00:24:36ACCEPT THAT ALLEGATION, THAT
THOSE INDIVIDUALS SHOULD NOT BE
00:24:41PUT AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE
00:24:44SHOULD STAND UP FOR MIDDLE
INCOME EARNERS.
00:24:46WHEN THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO
QUT TAXES, INCLUDING THE SALES
00:24:51TAX, YOU SHOULD LOOK FOR
OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE NOT
00:24:54GOING TO PUNISH CONSUMERS, BUT
REWARD CONSUMERS.
00:24:58PRECISELY THE DIFFERENT
APPROACH.
00:24:59>> NO RECORD, NO PLAN, PERSONAL
TAX.
00:25:02GET READY FOR THAT.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO
00:25:05LEAVE IT THERE.
HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE YOU BOTH
00:25:08BACK.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
00:25:09>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS
00:25:12WEEK.
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