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KAREN: ELECTION 2015 IS DONE, AS
00:00:25VOTERS REJECT ONE STATEWIDE
ISSUE AND APPROVE THE OTHER TWO.
00:00:29WE'LL RUN DOWN SOME OF THE
REASONS FOR THOSE RESULTS.
00:00:32ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO."
00:00:43ELECTION 2015 IS OVER, AND WHILE
TURNOUT WAS HIGHER THAN IN A
00:00:48TYPICAL OFF YEAR ELECTION, IT
WAS STILL UNDER THE 50% MARK.
00:00:51UNOFFICIAL RESULTS SHOWED 42% OF
THE STATE'S 7.5 MILLION VOTERS
00:00:56CAST BALLOTS, WHICH IS A BIT
HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR - WHEN THE
00:00:59FIVE EXECUTIVE OFFICEHOLDERS,
INCLUDING GOVERNOR, WERE UP FOR
00:01:02RE-ELECTION, ALONG WITH THE
ENTIRE OHIO AND U.S. HOUSE.
00:01:052014 WAS THE LOWEST VOTER
TURNOUT IN OHIO HISTORY FOR A
00:01:08GUBERNATORIAL ELECTION.
AND 2015 WAS ABOUT WHAT WAS
00:01:11EXPECTED CONSIDERING THERE WERE
THREE ISSUES ON THE BALLOT - AND
00:01:15ONE OF THEM WAS BACKED BY A
MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR AD CAMPAIGN
00:01:18AND A FAIR AMOUNT OF
CONTROVERSY.
00:01:20THIS YEAR'S TURNOUT WAS MUCH
HIGHER THAN IN 2013, WHEN THERE
00:01:23WERE NO STATEWIDE ISSUES.
BUT IT WAS LOWER THAN IN 2011,
00:01:26WHEN THE REPEAL OF THE
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING REFORM LAW
00:01:30KNOWN AS SENATE BILL 5 WAS
BEFORE VOTERS.
00:01:32IN 2009, TURNOUT WAS UP BECAUSE
OF THE STATEWIDE VOTE ON
00:01:35CASINOS.
THERE WERE NO STATEWIDE ISSUES
00:01:38IN 2007, AND 2005'S BALLOT
FEATURED A PACKAGE OF REFORMS ON
00:01:42ELECTIONS AND VOTING: EARLY
ABSENTEE VOTING, LOWERED
00:01:45CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION LIMITS, A
NINE-MEMBER INDEPENDENT PANEL TO
00:01:49OVERSEE ELECTIONS AND A CHANGE
IN THE WAY CONGRESSIONAL AND
00:01:52LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS WERE
DRAWN.
00:01:53SINCE THAT PACKAGE OF CHANGES
CALLED REFORM OHIO NOW IN 2005,
00:01:58TWO OF THE ITEMS THAT VOTERS
REJECTED HAVE BEEN PUT INTO
00:02:01PLACE.
THE FIRST - EARLY ABSENTEE
00:02:04VOTING - WAS EFFECTIVELY PASSED
BY STATE LAWMAKERS EVEN BEFORE
00:02:07VOTERS CAST THEIR BALLOTS ON IT.
AND NOW OHIOANS HAVE APPROVED A
00:02:11CHANGE IN THE WAY STATE
LAWMAKERS' DISTRICTS ARE DRAWN,
00:02:14WHICH WAS PART OF THAT PACKAGE
ON THE BALLOT IN 2005 - AND WAS
00:02:17ALSO REJECTED BY VOTERS IN 2012.
BUT WITH THE THIRD VOTE ON
00:02:21REDISTRICTING IN A DECADE,
UNOFFICIAL RESULTS SHOW 7 IN 10
00:02:25VOTERS APPROVED IT THIS TIME:
AND SUPPORTERS OF ISSUE 1 CREDIT
00:02:29BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR THE ISSUE
AND VERY LITTLE OPPOSITION.
00:02:33CATHERINE TURCER WITH COMMON
CAUSE OHIO HAS BEEN WORKING FOR
00:02:36YEARS TO REFORM REDISTRICTING
LAWS - INCLUDING THE TWO
00:02:39PROPOSALS THAT WERE REJECTED -
AND NATURALLY WAS THRILLED AT
00:02:42THE OUTCOME.
>> IT'S LIKE CHRISTMAS.
00:02:47I GOT THE BEST PRESENT, AND THE
THING THAT'S EXCITING IS THAT
00:02:52THIS IS FOR ALL OF US.
THIS HAS BEEN MANY YEARS AND
00:02:58THAT WE COULD REALLY MAKE A
DIFFERENCE FOR VOTERS FOR YEARS
00:03:04TO COME IS BOTH WONDERFUL AND
ASTONISHING.
00:03:07KAREN: THE MEASURE ADDS TWO
STATE LAWMAKERS TO THE FIVE
00:03:12MEMBER BOARD THAT DRAWS THE
LINES, CURRENTLY MADE UP ON THE
00:03:16GOVERNOR, AUDITOR, SECRETARY OF
STATE AND TWO LAWMAKERS.
00:03:21OR PEOPLE APPOINTED BY THEM.
AND ISSUE 1 WOULD REQUIRE AT
00:03:27LEAST TWO MEMBERS OF THAT SEVEN
MEMBER BOARD BE MEMBERS OF THE
00:03:29PARTY NOT IN POWER, AND AT LEAST
TWO MINORITY PARTY MEMBERS MUST
00:03:31AGREE ON THE MAP OF STATE HOUSE
AND SENATE DISTRICTS FOR THOSE
00:03:33MAPS TO LAST 10 YEARS.
IF NOT, THE MAPS WOULD HAVE TO
00:03:36BE REDRAWN AFTER FOUR YEARS.
BACKERS HAD SAID GIVING
00:03:40INCENTIVE TO THE MAJORITY PARTY
TO CREATE MAPS THAT CAN BE
00:03:44EMBRACED BY THE MINORITY WOULD
MAKE THE PROCESS MORE BIPARTISAN
00:03:47AND CUT DOWN ON GERRYMANDERING.
BUT SANDY THEIS WITH PROGRESS
00:03:51OHIO SAYS IT'S NOT OVER - BOTH
WITH THE PASSAGE OF ISSUE 1, AND
00:03:54THE RESOLUTION OF A FEDERAL
LAWSUIT OVER METHODS OF DRAWING
00:03:56CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS IN
ARIZONA.
00:03:59>> WE'RE NOT DONE.
THIS WAS A GREAT FIRST STEP.
00:04:02WE HAVE TO FIX THE CONGRESSIONAL
MAP.
00:04:04WE HAVE THE MOMENTUM TO DO IT.
IN THE REASON WHY THE
00:04:11REPUBLICANS DID NOT WANT TO PUT
CONGRESSIONAL IN THIS ONE IS
00:04:13BECAUSE THERE WAS A PENDING
SUPREME COURT CASE THAT THEY
00:04:15THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO RESOLVE.
IT IS RESOLVED, SO LET'S MOVE ON
00:04:20TO CONGRESSIONAL.
IT'S KEEP THE TEAM TOGETHER AND
00:04:23FIX THAT PART OF THE PROBLEM.
KAREN: AND REPUBLICAN SECRETARY
00:04:24OF STATE JON HUSTED, WHO'S LONG
TALKED ABOUT REDISTRICTING
00:04:26REFORM, AGREES.
>> I THINK IT'S IN EVERYBODY'S
00:04:28BEST INTEREST
IN OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION
00:04:33ACROSS THE STATE TO ULTIMATELY
SIDE WITH THE VOTERS ON THIS
00:04:36ISSUE, AND IN THE PARTISAN
GERRYMANDERING, MOVED TO A
00:04:41BIPARTISAN PROCESS WHERE WE
CREATE COMPACT AND COMPETITIVE
00:04:45DISTRICTS.
IT IS GOOD FOR GOVERNMENT AND
00:04:47GOOD TO MAKE SURE FOR ALL OF
THEM THAT WHATEVER SYSTEM WE
00:04:52USE, IT IS SOMETHING THEY CAN
LIVE WITH.
00:04:53THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS MAY BE
THRUST UPON THEM BY APPELLATE
00:04:58INITIATIVE THEY DID NOT WANT.
KAREN: THE FIRST STATE
00:04:59LAWMAKERS' MAPS TO BE DRAWN
UNDER ISSUE 1 WON'T BE CREATED
00:05:01UNTIL AFTER THE NEXT CENSUS, SO
THE FIRST ELECTION UNDER THIS
00:05:03REFORM WON'T HAPPEN UNTIL 2022.
STATE LAWMAKERS CREATE THE
00:05:09CONGRESSIONAL MAP WHICH SOME
OBSERVERS SAY CREATE THE MOST
00:05:15GERRYMANDERED DISTRICT IN THE
COUNTRY.
00:05:16THAT CALL FOR CHANGE IN THE MAPS
IS GETTING REJECTED BY THE TOP
00:05:20REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE.
SPEAKER CLIFF ROSENBERGER.
00:05:22>> WE JUST PASSED ISSUE ONE ON
THE BALLOT, NOW LET'S GIVE IT A
00:05:29TEST.
LET'S SEE HOW THE WHOLE THING
00:05:30WORKS ITSELF OUT.
KAREN: THEN THERE WERE THE MORE
00:05:36CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES OF TWO AND
THE UNOFFICIAL COUNT HAS ISSUE 2
00:05:38THREE.
APPROVED BY A VERY SLIM MAJORITY
00:05:39- AND JUST 3 POINTS.
ISSUE 2 PREVENTS INDIVIDUALS OR
00:05:40GROUPS FROM PUTTING BEFORE
VOTERS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS
00:05:42THAT BENEFIT ONLY THEIR
FINANCIAL INTERESTS AND DON'T
00:05:46OFFER THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO
OTHERS.
00:05:49IT TOOK JUST TWO WEEKS FOR
LAWMAKERS TO PROPOSE AND PASS
00:05:52THIS MEASURE TO PUT IT ON THE
BALLOT, AND THE STATE HAS SAID
00:05:55IT WOULD HAVE NEGATED THE
MARIJUANA LEGALIZATION ISSUE
00:05:57BELOW IT IF BOTH WOULD HAVE
PASSED.
00:06:00BUT SECRETARY OF STATE JON
HUSTED SAID ON ELECTION NIGHT
00:06:02THAT THE BENEFITS OF ISSUE 2 GO
BEYOND THE LATEST MARIJUANA
00:06:05LEGALIZATION EFFORT.
>> THE CONSTITUTION SHOULD NOT
00:06:08BE USED TO GIVE A HANDFUL OF
PEOPLE SPECIAL RIGHTS TO CARVE
00:06:13OUT THEIR OWN INTERESTS THAT ARE
SUPPOSED TO BE THERE TO PROTECT
00:06:17THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS OF
OHIOANS.
00:06:18WHEN WE WANT TO AVOID IS PEOPLE
TRYING TO USE ONE SET OF
00:06:21ARGUMENTS TO WIN ANOTHER SET OF
ARGUMENTS, MEANING THEY WANT TO
00:06:25USE THE GOOD PART OF WHAT THEY
ARE DOING AND HIDE THE BAD PART
00:06:30OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
ISSUE TWO, IF IT PASSES, WOULD
00:06:34FORCE THE LIGHT OF DAY TO BE
EXPOSED ON WHETHER OR NOT AN
00:06:38ISSUE EVER GETS PASSED IN THE
STATE OF OHIO.
00:06:39KAREN: THE AMENDMENT GIVES A LOT
MORE POWER TO THE PANEL HUSTED
00:06:42CHAIRS, THE BALLOT BOARD, WHICH
IS MADE UP OF CURRENT AND FORMER
00:06:44ELECTED OFFICIALS.
FROM NOW ON, IF THE BALLOT BOARD
00:06:46BELIEVES A PROPOSAL FROM CITIZEN
ACTIVISTS CREATES A MONOPOLY,
00:06:50THEN THAT MEASURE WILL BE SPLIT
INTO TWO ISSUES ON THE BALLOT.
00:06:53THE FIRST ISSUE WOULD BE TO
SUSPEND THE MONOPOLY BAN AND THE
00:06:57SECOND VOTE WOULD BE ON THE
PROPOSAL ITSELF.
00:07:01IT ONLY AFFECTS CONSTITUTIONAL
AMENDMENTS, NOT PROPOSED LAWS,
00:07:04AND ONLY THOSE PROPOSED BY
CITIZENS, NOT THOSE FROM
00:07:05LAWMAKERS.
AND THEN THERE WAS ISSUE 3, THE
00:07:10CONTROVERSIAL PLAN WHICH LANDED
OHIO IN NATIONAL HEADLINES ON
00:07:13ELECTION DAY AGAIN.
IT COULD HAVE MADE OHIO THE
00:07:16FIRST STATE IN THE NATION TO
LEGALIZE MARIJUANA FOR BOTH
00:07:19MEDICAL AND RECREATIONAL USE ON
THE SAME BALLOT.
00:07:22BUT UNOFFICIAL RESULTS SHOW A
RESOUNDING REJECTION OF THE PLAN
00:07:26FOR 10 OFFICIAL INVESTOR-OWNED
GROWING SITES AND A SYSTEM OF
00:07:29TAX RATES AND REGULATIONS.
VOTERS SAID NO BY A 2-1 MARGIN.
00:07:35CURT STEINER LED THE OPPOSITION
EFFORT, OHIOANS AGAINST
00:07:37MARIJUANA MONOPOLIES.
HE SAID MOST REJECTED ISSUE 3
00:07:41BECAUSE IT WASN'T A GOOD PLAN,
BUT ACKNOWLEDGED SOME VOTERS
00:07:44WANTED TO SEE POT LEGALIZED AND
SOME WANTED ACCESS TO MEDICAL
00:07:48MARIJUANA.
>> THOSE ISSUES GOT OVERSHADOWED
00:07:52DURING THIS DEBATE.
OVERSHADOWED BY THE BRAZEN
00:07:57NATURE AND FAR-REACHING EXTENT
OF THE STATEWIDE MONEY GRAB
00:08:01ATTENTION BY ISSUE THREE BACKERS
.
00:08:05AN ATTEMPT VOTERS CONCLUDED WAS,
IN THIS INSTANCE, AN UNSAVORY
00:08:08ABUSE OF THE BALLOT ISSUE
PROCESS.
00:08:11ISSUE THREE WAS NOTHING MORE,
AND NOTHING LESS, THAN A
00:08:17BUSINESS PLAN TO SEIZE CONTROL
OF THE RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA
00:08:21MARKET IN OHIO.
GOOGLE AND OTHERS ISSUE THREE
00:08:29WAS DESIGNED AND BUILT PRIMARILY
TO GARNER MASSIVE AND EXCLUSIVE
00:08:31PROFITS FOR A SMALL GROUP OF
SELF-SELECTED WEALTHY INVESTORS.
00:08:37ISSUE THREE WAS ABOUT GREED, NOT
GOOD PUBLIC POLICY.
00:08:41NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE WISDOM
OF OHIO VOTERS.
00:08:47THEY SAW THROUGH THE SMOKESCREEN
OF SLICK ADS.
00:08:51[APPLAUSE]
DECEPTIVE MAILINGS, PHONY CLAIMS
00:08:57ABOUT TAX REVENUES, AND OF
COURSE, BUDDY THE MARIJUANA
00:09:00MASCOT.
KAREN: DEMOCRATIC STATE
00:09:03REPRESENTATIVE MIKE CURTIN OF
COLUMBUS SAID HE THOUGHT THE
00:09:05PLAN WAS FLAWED FROM THE
BEGINNING.
00:09:06>> I THINK IT SPEAKS TO HOW BAD
THE PLAN WAS AND THE WISDOM
00:09:13OF THE OHIO ELECTORATE IN SEEING
THROUGH IT.
00:09:14IF TV AS A RULE THE DAY, IT
VOTERS GET MOST OF THEIR
00:09:20INFORMATION FROM TV ADS, THEN
ISSUE THE WOOD OF ONE.
00:09:23WHEN YOU SPEND THAT MUCH MONEY,
20 FINALLY DOLLARS IN THE
00:09:28CAMPAIGN, $40 MILLION OVERALL
FROM START TO FINISH IN TERMS OF
00:09:33QUALIFYING THE ISSUE ON THE
BALLOT, AND YOU ARE STILL BE AS
00:09:36BAD AS IT GOT BEAT, THAT SAYS
SOMETHING VERY PROFOUND ABOUT
00:09:40THE VOTERS AND THE VOTERS
AWARENESS OF WHAT THE PLAN
00:09:45REALLY WAS.
KAREN: REPUBLICAN SECRETARY OF
00:09:46STATE JON HUSTED WAS ALSO A
CRITIC OF ISSUE 3 AND WAS HAPPY
00:09:52TO TALK ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN THAT
RESPONSIBLE OHIO RAN FOR ISSUE
00:09:54>> I LIKE THE WAY THEY RAN IT
THREE.
00:09:55BECAUSE THEY LOST
.
00:09:58IN THE END, IT DOES NOT MATTER
WHAT KIND OF CAMPAIGN YOU RUN
00:10:05WHEN YOU ARE TRY TO SELL PEOPLE
ON SOMETHING THEY DON'T BELIEVE
00:10:08IN.
KAREN: BUT RESPONSIBLEOHIO
00:10:09LEADERS WHO RAN THE ISSUE 3
CAMPAIGN SAY THEY THINK THE
00:10:13OPPOSITION GROUP UNFAIRLY
CHARACTERIZED THE ISSUE AS A
00:10:15MONOPOLY.
JOHN HUMPHREY, AN INVESTOR IN
00:10:17THE SUMMIT COUNTY GROWING SITE,
BLAMED OPPONENTS FOR HIS SIDE'S
00:10:20LOSS, SAYING THE ISSUE WASN'T
PRESENTED FAIRLY TO VOTERS.
00:10:24>> IT WAS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED
AS FAR AS THE BALLOT TITLE
00:10:37LANGUAGE AND THE BALLOT LANGUAGE
ITSELF.
00:10:39AND VOTERS WERE NOT GIVEN A FAIR
SHOT AS TO WHAT THE ACTUAL
00:10:41INITIATIVE WAS TRYING TO PRESENT
FOR THE STATE.
00:10:42KAREN: JIMMY GOULD, THE MAN
RESPONSIBLE FOR RAISING MONEY
00:10:46FOR ISSUE THREE SAYS THIS IS NOT
THE END OF THE FIGHT TO LEGALIZE
00:10:48POT IN OHIO.
>> WE'VE HEARD THE VOTERS
00:10:51THEY WANT TO SEE LEGALIZATION
OCCUR IN OHIO, WE KNOW THAT.
00:10:55THE PLAN THAT WE PUT FORTH WILL
TAKE WORK, WILL HAVE TO CHANGE,
00:11:02BECAUSE WE WILL LISTEN TO THE
VOTERS.
00:11:03WE WILL ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT
WHEN SOMEONE PUTS THE WORD
00:11:10MONOPOLY ON A BALLOT, THAT DOES
NOT APPLY, BY ANY STRETCH OF THE
00:11:13IMAGINATION, IN A DICTIONARY IF
YOU READ IT, THAT IS NOT WHAT WE
00:11:17WERE.
BUT WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK AND
00:11:20START OVER, FROM THE BEGINNING,
AND WE ARE GOING TO CLIMB THAT
00:11:26MOUNTAIN AND CHANGE THE STATUS
QUO.
00:11:27WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE HAVE TO
DO, PUT IT WHATEVER MONEY WE
00:11:31NEED TO PUT UP, AND WE ARE
COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS CHANGE.
00:11:34KAREN: THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE REPONSIBLEOHIO CAMPAIGN, IAN
00:11:36JAMES, ISN'T BACKING DOWN
EITHER.
00:11:38>> THIS WAS, FOLKS
, THE FIRST TATTOO TWO
00:11:46LEGALIZATION.
WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY.
00:11:47-- STEP TWO LEGALIZATION.
WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY.
00:11:51WHAT WE HAVE IN PROHIBITION OF
MARIJUANA DOES NOT WORK.
00:12:04IT DOES NOT WORK.
WE HAVE CONTINUED TO SURRENDER
00:12:08THE STREETS TO DRUG DEALERS, WE
STILL HAVE DRUG DEALER SELLING
00:12:11DRUGS TO KIDS.
WE STILL WAIT -- LOSE $120
00:12:17MILLION A YEAR.
WE STILL HAVE FOLKS THAT NEED
00:12:20THE COMPASSIONATE CHAIR -- CARE
THAT MEDICAL MARIJUANA PROVIDES
00:12:24AND THEY ARE NOT GETTING IT.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY ARE NOT
00:12:28GOING TO GET IT FROM THE
LEGISLATURE.
00:12:29THE ONLY WAY THEY ARE GOING TO
GET THAT IS IF WE CONTINUE TO
00:12:34WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE
LEGALIZE MARIJUANA AND PROVIDE A
00:12:36STATE REGULATED MEANS OF GETTING
THE MARIJUANA, MAKING SURE WE
00:12:43KEEP IT OUT OF KIDS HANDS, MAKE
SURE WE DO NOT ALLOW GUMMY BEARS
00:12:47TO BE SOLD TO THEM.
THAT MEANS WE ARE COMING BACK.
00:12:52KAREN: POLLS HAVE SHOWN STRONG
SUPPORT AMONG OHIOANS FOR
00:12:55MEDICINAL MARIJUANA, WITH FAR
LESS SUPPORT FOR LEGALIZED
00:12:57RECREATIONAL POT.
ALL THIS CRITICISM OF STATE
00:13:00LAWMAKERS NOT HEARING OHIOANS ON
THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA ISSUE HAS
00:13:04APPARENTLY AFFECTED THEM.
THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE SPEAKER
00:13:07SAYS HE FEELS HIS CAUCUS, AS
WELL AS THE DEMOCRATS, ARE READY
00:13:10TO SUPPORT A BILL THAT WOULD
LEGALIZE MEDICAL MARIJUANA IN
00:13:13SOME FORM.
CLIFF ROSENBERGER TOLD
00:13:16STATEHOUSE REPORTERS THIS WEEK
THAT LAWMAKERS WILL BE
00:13:19DISCUSSING HOW TO PERMIT
MARIJUANA FOR RESEARCH AND
00:13:23MEDICAL USE IN OHIO, BUT HE
WARNS ANY LEGISLATION ON THAT
00:13:29ONE NOT COME AT LIGHT SPEED.
>> I AM THE SPEAKER OF THE
00:13:32PEOPLE'S HOUSE AND PEOPLE AROUND
THE STATE CLEARLY HAVE TALKED
00:13:34ABOUT THE FACT THAT MEDICAL
MARIJUANA IS SOMETHING THAT
00:13:37THEY'D LIKE TO SEE A
CONVERSATION INCREASE ABOUT, AND
00:13:39THAT WHAT'S WE'RE GOING TO DO.
AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THIS, AS
00:13:44I CONTINUE TO SAY, IN A MEASURED
APPROACH.
00:13:45KAREN: ROSENBERGER SAYS A BILL
ON MEDICAL CANNABIS WAS PROPOSED
00:13:47BY A REPUBLICAN LAWMAKER EARLIER
THIS YEAR, BUT THE BILL HAS YET
00:13:49TO HAVE ITS FIRST HEARING.
TO DIG FURTHER INTO THE RESULTS
00:13:53OF ELECTION NIGHT 2015 AND WHAT
THEY MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO BE
00:13:56JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUES AT THE
STATEHOUSE NEWS BUREAU, JO
00:13:59INGLES AND ANDY CHOW.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT ISSUE THREE,
00:14:06THE ONE EVERYONE IS TALKING
ABOUT.
00:14:08IT DID NOT WIN A SINGLE COUNTY.
SUPPORT WAS ESPECIALLY WEEK IN
00:14:12NORTHWEST OHIO, SHELBY COUNTY,
FAR WESTERN OHIO, AMISH COUNTRY,
00:14:19ALL SOLIDLY REPUBLICAN.
EVEN IN THE COUNTIES WHERE IT
00:14:22HAD MORE SUPPORT, IT REALLY WAS
NOT ENOUGH.
00:14:24JO, WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD DO TO
ISSUE THREE?
00:14:28JO: I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT
THE MONOPOLY ISSUE, THAT IS THE
00:14:33NUMBER ONE THING.
OPPONENTS SAID IT WAS A MONOPOLY
00:14:37AND WE ARE GOING TO FIGHT IT ON
THAT GROUND ALONE.
00:14:39SO THEY WAGE THEIR CAMPAIGN AND
PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE
00:14:44MONOPOLY ISSUE FOR A LONG TIME.
THE THING ABOUT ISSUE THREE, IT
00:14:51REALLY REQUIRE THE BACKERS OF
THE PROPOSAL TO GET OUT A YOUNG
00:14:53VOTE, TO GET PEOPLE OUT WHO DID
NOT ORDINARILY VOTE.
00:14:56EVEN THOUGH WE HAD A RELATIVELY
HIGH VOTER TURNOUT FOR THIS KIND
00:15:03OF ELECTION, OFF YEAR ELECTION,
YOU STILL DID NOT SEE THE KEY
00:15:06AREAS TURNING OUT.
FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE OHIO STATE
00:15:09UNIVERSITY, THE AREA AROUND
CAMPUS, ISSUE THREE WENT DOWN.
00:15:14THAT WAS AN ISSUE WHERE THEY
NEEDED SUPPORT AND DID NOT GET
00:15:17IT.
KAREN: FRANKLIN COUNTY, WHERE A
00:15:22HIGHER STATE IS, IT LOST.
WHERE ATHENS UNIVERSITY IS, IT
00:15:25LOST.
ANDY, WHAT TO DO HER FROM THE
00:15:30PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT WAS THE DOOMED
ISSUE THREE?
00:15:32ANDY: WE HEARD FROM THE
BEGINNING THERE WERE TOO MANY
00:15:36COOKS IN THE KITCHEN, TOO MANY
THINGS HAPPENING.
00:15:38ARE THEY TAKING THE STRATEGY OF
PUSHING MEDICINAL MARIJUANA,
00:15:43CONSTANTLY SAYING IT IS NOT A
MONOPOLY, TAKING THE STRATEGY
00:15:46THAT THIS WILL HELP LAW
ENFORCEMENT?
00:15:47TOO MANY STRATEGIES, TOO MANY
STEPS TAKEN.
00:15:52IT KIND OF CLUTTERED THE ISSUE.
IT WAS A HARD SELL FROM THE
00:15:54BEGINNING.
IF YOU LOOK AT POLLS, A SMALL
00:15:57MAJORITY OF PEOPLE APPROVE THE
IDEA OF PERSONAL USE MARIJUANA
00:16:02FROM THE GET-GO.
THEN YOU ADD THE IDEA OF THE
00:16:04MONOPOLY ON TOP OF THAT AND THEN
YOU HAVE THESE SLIPUPS, BUDDY
00:16:08THE MASCOT -- ALL OF THESE
THINGS -- IT WAS A HARD SELL
00:16:12FROM THE BEGINNING.
JO: IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRO ISSUE
00:16:17THREE PEOPLE, THEY WERE PUSHING
THE MEDICAL PROPONENT HARDLY IN
00:16:21ADVERTISING.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT POLLS OF
00:16:22OHIOANS, MEDICAL MARIJUANA ALONE
PULLS VERY HIGHLY.
00:16:2680% OR MORE.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE
00:16:32LEGISLATURE AND OTHERS MAYBE
WANT TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE.
00:16:33KAREN: THE LAST QUINNIPIAC POLL
THAT WAS DONE SPECIFICALLY ON
00:16:37MEDICAL MARIJUANA, NOT AN ISSUE
THREE, HAD 90% SUPPORT.
00:16:40WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS
OF PEOPLE AND AID GROUPS THEY
00:16:45WERE IN, THE PEOPLE MOST LIKELY
TO VOTE, THE OLDER PEOPLE, WERE
00:16:51LESS LIKE IT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF
MARIJUANA.
00:16:52THOSE WHO WERE YOUNGER AND LESS
LIKE YOU TO VOTE WERE MORE
00:16:55SUPPORTIVE.
ANDY: JO AND I DID AN ONLINE Q&A
00:16:59THE DAY BEFORE THE ELECTION AND
A LOT OF PEOPLE KEPT SAYING, I
00:17:03AM FOR MEDICINAL MARIJUANA.
HOW DO I VOTE JUST TO LEGALIZE
00:17:06MEDICINAL MARIJUANA?
WE HAD TO SAY SORRY, THERE IS
00:17:12NOT THAT OPTION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID THEY WERE
00:17:16ALL FOR MEDICINAL PURPOSES.
KAREN: THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS
00:17:19THAT GOT PEOPLE CONFUSED, THE
IDEA OF ONE THING BUT NOT THE
00:17:22OTHER.
THEN YOU THROW ISSUE 2 INTO THE
00:17:27MIX, BUT THAT ENDED UP PASSING.
SO WAS THEIR CONFUSION, DO YOU
00:17:32FEEL PEOPLE HEARD THE MESH YOU
ABOUT ISSUE 2 THEY WANTED TO
00:17:35HEAR AND REJECTED ISSUE THREE?
ANDY: I THINK THERE IS
00:17:41DEFINITELY CONFUSION WHEN IT
COMES TO ISSUE 2, AND NOT AS
00:17:44MUCH WITH ISSUE THREE.
65% DID NOT WANT ISSUE 3, SO
00:17:49THEY VOTED IT DOWN.
IT SEEMED LIKE THEY KNEW WHAT
00:17:52THEY WERE DOING.
ISSUE 2 BARELY PASSED.
00:17:57MORE PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW WHAT
WAS GOING ON, MAYBE I WILL JUST
00:18:00VOTE NO ON BOTH.
JO: THE THING THAT WAS REALLY
00:18:05INTERESTING, A LOT OF PEOPLE
VOTED NO ON ISSUE THREE. THAT
00:18:06THEY HAVE TO VOTE DOWN -- HAD TO
VOTE YES ON ISSUE 2 IN ORDER TO
00:18:13VOTE DOWN ISSUE THREE, WHICH IS
NOT TRUE.
00:18:14NOW SINCE ISSUE 2 PAST, THIS
WILL BE IN THE OHIO
00:18:19CONSTITUTION, AND IT IS GOING TO
BE A HURDLE THAT CAN BE APPLIED
00:18:25TO EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN BROUGHT
CONSTITUTIONAL PROPOSAL
00:18:28AMENDMENT IN THE FUTURE, ON ANY
SUBJECT.
00:18:32SO IT IS FAR-REACHING, FAR
BEYOND THE MONOPOLY ARGUMENT OF
00:18:41ISSUE THREE, AND I THINK PEOPLE
WERE CONFUSED BY IT.
00:18:42ANDY: I DON'T THINK PEOPLE KNEW
IT WENT PAST MARIJUANA.
00:18:49THEY WANTED TO MAKE A POINT BY
VOTING FOR ISSUE 2.
00:18:51WE WOULD SAY IT IS NOT JUST
THAT.
00:18:54THERE ARE FUTURE INITIATIVES
THAT COULD BE IMPACTED BY ISSUE
00:18:582.
KAREN: YOU MENTIONED TURNOUT,
00:19:01JO.
THIS WAS A GOOD YEAR,
00:19:05COMPARATIVELY, 42%, BUT IT
SEEMED LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT
00:19:08ISSUE 3 WANTED TO TURNOUT, THE
PEOPLE THEY THOUGHT WOULD BE
00:19:14SUPPORTIVE, DID NOT TURNOUT.
THOSE THAT DID WERE SOLIDLY
00:19:17REPUBLICAN.
THAT SEEMS LIKE WHEN WE GET IN
00:19:20THESE OFF YEAR ELECTIONS.
JO: TYPICALLY, YES.
00:19:26A LOT OF THE BACKERS OF --
MARIJUANA BACKERS WHO WANTED IT
00:19:32LEGALLY, MEDICINALLY OR PERSONAL
USE -- THERE WE GO -- A LOT OF
00:19:34THESE PEOPLE WERE SAYING, THIS
IS A REALLY BAD TIME TO PUT IT
00:19:39UP IN 2015.
LET'S WAIT UNTIL 2016 WHEN WE
00:19:44KNOW WE CAN ENERGIZE THE YOUNGER
VOTE, WHEN WE KNOW WE CAN GET
00:19:46MORE OF THE PEOPLE IN THE WOULD
VOTE FOR IT ANYWAY.
00:19:48KAREN: MORE VOTERS IN THOSE
YEARS, TOO.
00:19:52THERE HAS BEEN THE STRATEGY OF
PUTTING THESE CONSULTATION ON
00:19:57AMENDMENTS ON THESE YEARS.
THE CASINO IN 2009, THEY ENDED
00:20:01UP GETTING THE VOTERS THEY
WANTED TO COME OUT.
00:20:02JO: THAT'S CORRECT, BUT THEN YOU
SEE SOME ISSUES PUT ON THE
00:20:08BALLOT TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE OUT.
2004, I KNOW THAT'S A LONG TIME
00:20:11AGO, BUT THERE WAS A CONCERN
ABOUT NOT GETTING ENOUGH
00:20:14REPUBLICANS TO SHOW UP IN THE
GUBERNATORIAL RACE.
00:20:17THEREFORE, -- I'M SORRY, A
PRESIDENTIAL RACE.
00:20:24THEY ENDED UP PUTTING ON THE
ISSUE, THE GAY MARRIAGE
00:20:28AMENDMENT, THAT PROHIBITING GAY
MARRIAGE IN OHIO.
00:20:31THEY PUT THAT ON AS A WAY TO GET
PEOPLE TO COME TO THE POLLS.
00:20:35ANDY: I WILL BE INTERESTED TO
SEE WHAT THEY COME BACK WITH
00:20:40NEXT YEAR.
IF THEY REGROUP AND COME BACK
00:20:43WITH ANOTHER ISSUE NEXT YEAR.
MAYBE THIS YEAR WAS THEIR HOME
00:20:45RUN BALL.
LET'S PUT EVERYTHING IN THAT WE
00:20:49WOULD LOVE.
OUR WISH LIST.
00:20:50THEN IF IT DOES NOT PASS, WE CAN
COME BACK NEXT YEAR ON AN
00:20:56EVEN-NUMBERED ELECTION YEAR,
SCALE IT BACK A LITTLE BIT, MAKE
00:20:59IT MORE APPEALABLE TO VOTERS,
AND GET IT PASSED A SECOND TIME
00:21:02AROUND.
KAREN: THE COMPLAINT IS IT COST
00:21:08SO MUCH MONEY TO GET A
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO THE
00:21:09VOTERS THAT THE INVESTORS THAT
WERE NEEDED TO FINANCE THE
00:21:11CAMPAIGN -- WE HAVE HEARD THAT
THERE WERE GROUPS THAT HAVE BEEN
00:21:16WORKING ON GETTING LEGALIZED
MEDICINAL MARIJUANA, LEGALIZED
00:21:21RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA.
HIS NEXT YEAR GOING TO BE THE
00:21:23YEAR, CAN THEY DO IT WITHOUT THE
BACKING, LIKE THIS GROUP HAD, OF
00:21:29PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF MONEY?
JO: THE OHIO RIGHTS GROUP IS ONE
00:21:35OF THE GROUPS THAT YOU
MENTIONED.
00:21:36THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET AN
ISSUE ON THE BALLOT.
00:21:39IT IS DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO GET
ENOUGH SIGNATURES QUICKLY ENOUGH
00:21:43AND TO GET THE MONEY YOU NEED.
YOU HAVE TO MARKET THIS AND
00:21:46EXPLAIN IT TO VOTERS, AND YOU
HAVE TO ASSUME YOU WILL HAVE
00:21:49SOME OPPOSITION TO OVERCOME, SO
IT TAKES A LOT OF MONEY.
00:21:52THE LEADER OF THE OHIO RIGHTS
GROUP SAID AFTER THE ELECTION,
00:21:58SHE DOESN'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE
POSSIBLE TO PUT HER ISSUE ON THE
00:22:00BALLOT NEXT YEAR, EVEN THOUGH
THEY GOT ALMOST HALF OF THE
00:22:04SIGNATURES THEY NEEDED FOR IT.
KAREN: THE LEADER OF RESPONSIBLE
00:22:06OHIO SAYS THE CONVERSATION HAS
STARTED, YOU HEAR STATE
00:22:11LAWMAKERS TALKING ABOUT IT,
FURTHERING THE DISCUSSION ON
00:22:14MEDICAL MARIJUANA, EVEN THOUGH
IT HAS BEEN MANY YEARS WHERE
00:22:19MEASURES TO DO THAT HAVE BEEN
SITTING IN THE LEGISLATURE.
00:22:21LET ME MOVE FORWARD ON ISSUE
ONE, THE ONE THAT EVERYONE
00:22:25THOUGHT WOULD PASS, THE THIRD
TIME FOR REDISTRICTING REFORM ON
00:22:28THE BALLOT.
ANY THOUGHTS ON ISSUE ONE?
00:22:30ANDY: IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO
SEE WHAT HAPPENS, BUT
00:22:36UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO WAIT
SIX YEARS TO SEE IF THIS WILL
00:22:38REALLY WORK.
PEOPLE HAVE SAID GERRYMANDERING
00:22:40IS A BIG PROBLEM, NOT ONLY IN
THIS STATE, BUT OTHERS AS WELL.
00:22:45WE HAVE TO SEE IN THIS REFORM
WILL WORK.
00:22:50THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS IN
PLACE TO MAKE SURE THE BOARD
00:22:52THAT DRAWS THE MAPS DOES IT MORE
FAIRLY, WHICH REPRESENTS THEIR
00:22:56COMMUNITY MORE.
AGAIN, WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE
00:22:59CENSUS IN 2020 AND THEN 2021 THE
MAPS WILL BE DRAWN.
00:23:02KAREN: AND THEN THE FIRST
ELECTION DEALING WITH THOSE MAPS
00:23:06IS 2022.
JO: ONE OF THE INTERESTING
00:23:11THINGS, MIKE DAWSON, A POLITICAL
OPERATIVE AROUND CAPITOL SQUARE,
00:23:14WHO HAS FOLLOWED THE ELECTION
FOR A LONG TIME, WAS POINTING
00:23:22OUT THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE
LIKE-MINDED TEND TO LIVE AROUND
00:23:26EACH OTHER.
SO YOU HAVE POCKETS WHERE YOU
00:23:30ARE GOING TO HAVE SOLID
REPUBLICANS OR SOLID DEMOCRATS.
00:23:33REGARDLESS OF ISSUE ONE PASSING,
IT IS STILL GOING TO BE HARD IN
00:23:38ALL AREAS OF THE STATE TO BE
ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE BALANCE THEY
00:23:42ARE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE
ISSUE ONE PROPOSAL.
00:23:44KAREN: FINALLY, GOVERNOR JOHN
KASICH WAS NOT IN THE STATE, IN
00:23:50NEW HAMPSHIRE CALLING FOR THE
PRIMARY NEXT YEAR.
00:23:52HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE LOOKING
AHEAD TO NEXT YEAR.
00:23:55ANDY, YOU HAVE SPOKEN TO SOME
FOLKS PUTTING TOGETHER A VALID
00:23:58OR NOT YEAR.
ANDY: THERE IS THE CLEAN ENERGY
00:24:04INITIATIVE OUT THERE WHICH IS TO
GET STATE SOLD BONDS TO AWARD
00:24:07GRANTS TO GREEN ENERGY
COMPANIES, TO DEVELOP GREEN
00:24:08ENERGY IN THE STATE.
THEY HAVE TRIED TORSO YEARS AND
00:24:13THEY THINK 2016 IS THERE YEAR.
IF THEY CANNOT GET IT DONE IN
00:24:182016, THEY WILL NOT TRY ANYMORE.
BUT SOME PEOPLE HAVE SUGGESTED
00:24:23THAT THIS MIGHT BE THAT THING WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH
00:24:25MONOPOLIES.
IT MAY CREATE AN ECONOMIC
00:24:29INTEREST FOR A SMALL GROUP OF
PEOPLE.
00:24:30IF THAT IS THE CASE, THAT IN
2016 THIS GREEN INITIATIVE GETS
00:24:34ON THE BALLOT, IT MAY BE THE
FIRST ONE THAT HAS TO HOP OVER
00:24:39THAT MONOPOLY ISSUE IN ISSUE 2.
KAREN: WE MIGHT HAVE MEDICAL
00:24:45MARIJUANA, LEGALIZED MARIJUANA,
CLEAN ENERGY INITIATIVE, MINIMUM
00:24:48WAGE INCREASING.
ALL OF THESE THINGS FOR NEXT
00:24:49YEAR WHEN WE WILL ALREADY HAVE A
LOT OF ATTENTION ON OHIO,
00:24:52WHETHER GOVERNOR KASICH STAYS IN
IT OR NOT.
00:24:57THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING
HERE.
00:24:58A COUPLE OF OTHER NOTES TO CLOSE
ELECTION 2015.
00:25:01VOTERS PASSED MORE THAN 85%T OF
SCHOOL LEVIES ON BALLOTS ACROSS
00:25:03THE STATE, AND NEARLY 90% OF
LIBRARY ISSUES, AND ELECTED
00:25:07DEMOCRATS AS MAYORS IN AKRON,
COLUMBUS AND TOLEDO, WHILE THE
00:25:10DEMOCRAT FAVORED TO WIN IN
CANTON, WILLIAM HEALY, WAS UPSET
00:25:14BY THOMAS BERNABEI, WHO RAN AS
AN INDEPENDENT.
00:25:16VOTERS ALSO APPROVED A 10-YEAR
30-CENT PER PACK TAX ON
00:25:20CIGARETTES TO FUND THE ARTS IN
CUYAHOGA COUNTY AND PASSED A
00:25:24RENEWAL LEVY FOR THE COLUMBUS
ZOO AND AQUARIUM, AFTER
00:25:27REJECTING A PERMANENT LEVY TWO
YEARS AGO.
00:25:29AND VOTERS THREW BACK A
PERMANENT PARKS TAX IN
00:25:31CINCINNATI.
AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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