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>> AT FORMER LAWMAKER HEADS OFF
00:00:37TO PRISON FOR ETHICS ISSUES.
THE GOVERNOR GOES AWAY FOR A
00:00:41GLOBAL CONFERENCE.
AND IT'S BEEN 40 YEARS SINCE
00:00:44THE U.S. SUPREME COURT RULED
ABORTION LEGAL.
00:00:46IN FOUR DECADES SINCE 1973,
STATE LAWMAKERS HAVE BEEN
00:00:50RESTRICTING AND REGULATING
ABORTION, SOME SAY CHIPPING
00:00:53AWAY AT A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO
CHOOSE.
00:00:56WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT'S AHEAD
WITH TWO LEADERS ON BOTH SIDES
00:00:59OF THE ISSUE.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:01:03OHIO."
FOR THE SECOND TIME IN A YEAR,
00:01:05A FORMER STATE REPRESENTIVE IS
HEADED FROM THE STATEHOUSE TO
00:01:08STATE PRISON.
A FEW HOURS AFTER HIS TRIAL WAS
00:01:11SET TO BEGIN ON 50 CHARGES,
INCLUDING MONEY LAUNDERING,
00:01:16FORGER WREE, TAMPERING WITH
EVIDENCE AND GRAND THEFT,
00:01:20CLAYTON LUCKY STRUCK A DEAL.
HE PLEAD GUILTY TO EIGHT
00:01:24CHARGES AND WILL SERVE THREE
YEARS IN PRISON BUT COULD HAVE
00:01:26GOTTEN MORE THAN 10 YEARS.
WHILE HE WAS ACCUSED OF
00:01:30SKIMMING AS MUCH AS $150,000
OUT OF HIS CAMPAIGN FUND OVER A
00:01:33SIX-YEAR PERIOD.
WITHDRAWING MONEY WITH A DEBIT
00:01:36CARD AT CASINOS AND USING
CAMPAIGN FUNDS TO PAY FOR HIS
00:01:41HOME EQUITY LOAN.
THE FRANKLIN COUNTY PROSECUTOR
00:01:45SAYS LUCKY'S FINANCIAL FORMS
INCLUDED FAKE INVOICES AND
00:01:48HOTEL RECEIPTS AND ALSO
EXPENDITURES THAT SHOULD HAVE
00:01:51BEEN REPORTED THAT WEREN'T AND
SOME THAT WERE REPORTED THAT
00:01:53DIDN'T EXIST.
LUCKY WILL ALSO HAVE TO PAY
00:01:55BACK TO THE STATE NEARLY
$12,000, THE SALARY HE RECEIVED
00:01:59FROM THE TIME HE WAS INDICTED
IN OCTOBER TILL HIS TERM AS A
00:02:02STATE REPRESENTIVE END END IN
DECEMBER.
00:02:06LUCKY DID NOT SEEK RE-ELECTION,
BUT DID NOT RESIGN AFTER HE WAS
00:02:10INDICTED.
BEFORE HE WAS SENTENCED, HE
00:02:12APOLOGIZED TO HIS CONSTITUENTS
AND HIS EXTENDED FAMILY FOR
00:02:15WHAT HE CALLED HIS ERRORS IN
JUDGMENT AND THAT HE HAD BEEN
00:02:18SPREADING HIMSELF TOO THIN.
>> I HAVE TO TELL THEM THAT I'M
00:02:21HUMAN, AND I FELL SHORT IN THIS
INSTANCE.
00:02:25AND I APOLOGIZE TO THE COURT
AND THE STATE OF OHIO AND
00:02:28ESPECIALLY MY COLLEAGUES AT THE
STATEHOUSE.
00:02:30I THA FOR LETTING ME ADDRESS
AND DIE TAKE FULL
00:02:32RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS.
>> HE IS TO REPORT TO PRISON ON
00:02:35MARCH 18 AND COULD TRY FOR
EARLY RELEASE AS SOON AS SIX
00:02:38MONTHS INTO HIS SENTENCE.
ANOTHER FORMER LAWMAKER,
00:02:42COLUMBUS FORMER REPRESENTIVE
CARLTON WEDDINGTON, ALSO A
00:02:46DEMOCRAT, ADMITTING ALL-EXPENSE
PAID TRIPS AS BRIBES TO
00:02:50INTRODUCE LEGISLATION LAST
YEAR.
00:02:51THE F.B.I. DID AN INVESTIGATION
INTO PAYDAY LENDING LEGISLATION
00:02:56AT THE STATEHOUSE.
O'BRIEN SAID PART OF THE PLEA
00:02:59DEAL INCLUDED LUCKY'S
COOPERATION WITH FEDERAL
00:03:03AGENTS.
CARLTON WEDDINGTON HAD ALSO
00:03:05BEEN INTERVIEWED BY THE F.B.I.
BEFORE HE STARTED HIS
00:03:08THREE-YEAR PRISON SENTENCE.
O'BRIEN SAYS CAMPAIGN FINANCIAL
00:03:13REPORTS ARE FILED ON THE HONOR
SYSTEM SO THERE'S NO IDEA OF
00:03:16TELLING HOW OFF THEN MIGHT BE
HAPPENING.
00:03:19AND STATE LAWMAKERS MIGHT WANT
TO LOOK OVER THE LAW.
00:03:22THE GOVERNOR WANTS TO BRING HIS
SPEECH WEST THIS YEAR.
00:03:25HE'S ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO
MOVE THE ANNUAL ADDRESS BEFORE
00:03:28A JOINT SESSION OF OHIO HOUSE
AND SENATE TO DOWNTOWN LIMA.
00:03:33HE ALSO WANTS TO MOVE THE TIME,
TOO.
00:03:36HE WANTS THE SPEECH TO BEGIN AT
6:30 IN THE EVENING ON TUESDAY,
00:03:40FEBRUARY 19.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR THAT
00:03:42SPEECH ON MANY OF OHIO'S PUBLIC
RADIO STATIONS AND WE'LL HAVE A
00:03:45FULL RECAP HERE.
THE GOVERNOR SPENT THIS WEEK IN
00:03:48SWITZERLAND AT THE WORLD
ECONOMIC FORUM.
00:03:50HE HAD TWO PUBLIC SESSIONS
BEFORE THE GATHERING OF
00:03:53POLITICAL, CORPORATE AND
THOUGHT LEADERS.
00:03:56THE FIRST WAS AN INTERACTIVE
DISCUSSION ABOUT ADVANCED
00:03:59MANUFACTURING.
THE SECOND WAS A SESSION ABOUT
00:04:00THE CHANGING EXPECTATIONS FOR
THE UNITED STATES IN THE 21ST
00:04:05CENTURY.
THE GOVERNOR'S SPOKESMAN ALSO
00:04:07SAYS THE GOVERNOR HAD FOUR
PRIVATE MEETINGS BUSINESS
00:04:10LEADERS.
ONE MORE SWEARING-IN CEREMONY
00:04:12THIS WEEK AS APPELLATE JUDGE
JUDITH FRENCH WAS PUBLICLY
00:04:17SWORN IS TO THE OHIO SUPREME
COURT.
00:04:19THE GOVERNOR APPOINTED FRENCH
TO SERVE THE FINAL TWO YEARS OF
00:04:23ANOTHER JUDGE'S TERM WHO
RETIRED AT THE END OF LAST
00:04:26YEAR.
FRENCH HAD BEEN ON THE 10TH
00:04:28DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS SINCE
2004, AND BEFORE THAT WAS CHIEF
00:04:32LEGAL COUNSEL FOR THE FORMER
GOVERNOR.
00:04:34IT WAS 40 YEARS AGO THIS WEEK
THAT THE U.S. SUPREME COURT
00:04:37HANDED DOWN ITS LANDMARK
DECISION LEGALIZING ABORTION,
00:04:41ROE VERSUS WADE.
ACTIVISTS MARKED THAT
00:04:44ANNIVERSARY THIS WEEK BY VOWING
TO CONTINUE THEIR RESPECTIVE
00:04:46FIGHTS FOR AND AGAINST A
WOMAN'S RIGHT TO HAVE AN
00:04:49ABORTION.
OHIO HAS BEEN A MAJOR PLAYER
00:04:53AMONG STATE LEGISLATURES ON THE
ISSUE, MOST NOTELY WITH THE
00:04:56LEGISLATION OF THE SO-CALLED
HEARTBEAT BILL IN 2011, WHICH
00:05:00PASSED THE OHIO HOUSE BUT DID
NOT MAKE IT TO THE SENATE FLOOR
00:05:04IN DECEMBER.
IT'S REPORTED THAT 39 LAWS
00:05:08RESTRICTING ABORTION WERE
ENACTED ACROSS THE COUNTRY AT
00:05:10THE HALFWAY POINT LAST YEAR,
AFTER A RECORD 135 NEW LAWS
00:05:14WERE PASSED IN 2011.
THAT INCLUDED A SO-CALLED POST
00:05:18VIABILITY BAN ON ABORTION AFTER
20 WEEKS HERE IN OHIO.
00:05:21REPUBLICANS NOW HAVE SUPER
MAJORITIES IN THE OHIO HOUSE
00:05:25AND THE SENATE, AND THAT MAKES
BOTH ANTI-ABORTION AND ABORTION
00:05:28RIGHTS ADVOCATES WONDER WHAT'S
AHEAD.
00:05:30I'M PLEASED TO WELCOME TWO
LEADERS TO TALK ABOUT THE
00:05:34ISSUE.
THE PRESIDENT OF OHIO'S RIGHT
00:05:37TO LIFE AND THE POLICY DIRECTOR
FOR NARAL PRO CHOICE.
00:05:42THE HEARTBEAT BILL THAT I
MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS WOULD
00:05:45BAN ABORTION AFTER A HEARTBEAT
IS DETECTED.
00:05:48DO YOU EXPECT THIS TO BE
REINTRODUCED AND IF SO, WILL IT
00:05:51BE INTRODUCED IN THE ORIGINAL
FORM OR MORE THE COM PRETHAZE
00:05:55THAT WAS DISCUSSED?
>> THANKS FOR HAVING US ON THE
00:05:57SHOW.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
00:05:58TO YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, I'M
NOT SURE WHERE THE -- EITHER
00:06:04CHAMBER IS ON THAT LEGISLATION.
AT SOME POINT THEY'RE GOING TO
00:06:07DEAL WITH IT DIRECTLY AS IT
RELATES TO WHETHER IT BE THE
00:06:09BILL THAT WAS ORIGINALLY
INTRODUCED OR THE COMPROMISE
00:06:12THAT OHIO RIGHT TO LIFE AND
OTHERS WORK WITH TO GET A BILL
00:06:16THAT WOULD BE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES IN A FEDERAL
00:06:18COURT.
SO AT THIS TIME NOW WE HAVEN'T
00:06:21HEARD EITHER WAY FROM THE
SENATE PRESIDENT OR THE SPEAKER
00:06:25WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE.
WE HAVE A REAL ROBUST AGENDA
00:06:29FOR 2013.
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WAS
00:06:33FANTASTIC FOR THE PRO LIFE
MOVEMENT.
00:06:35>> WANT TO ASK BUT THAT
COMPROMISE BILL AT THE END.
00:06:38THIS WAS INTENDED TO BE A
COMPROMISE TO BRING OHIO RIGHT
00:06:42TO LIFE AND THE GROUP THAT
PUSHED THE HEARTBEAT BILL
00:06:44TOGETHER, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
THE PRESIDENT WAS HOPING FOR
00:06:48YOU FOLKS TO AGREE ON
SOMETHING.
00:06:50WHAT DID THAT COMPROMISE BILL
ENTAIL?
00:06:52>> IT'S A HYBRID OF WHAT WAS
INTRODUCED.
00:06:55IT HAS BETTER, WE THINK, MORE
STRONGER INFORMED CONCEPT,
00:06:58NUMBER ONE.
I THINK EVERYONE CAN AGREE THAT
00:07:00MORE INFORMATION TO A WOMAN
BEFORE SHE MAKES ANY DECISION
00:07:03REGARDING HER BODY IS A GOOD
THING.
00:07:05NUMBER TWO, CREATE A TRIGGER
STATUTE.
00:07:08ONCE ROE W. WADE'S OVERTURNED,
ONE YEAR, FIVE YEARS, WHO
00:07:14KNOWS, THE LAW IN OHIO.
AND THEN THE THIRD PART OF IT
00:07:18WOULD BE A BAN -- EXCUSE ME, AT
CONCEPTION.
00:07:21AND WITH THE FALLBACK OF A
HEARTBEAT IF THAT WASN'T
00:07:27SUCCESSFUL.
>> JAMIE, THAT BAN AT
00:07:29CONCEPTION HAS TO BE SOMETHING
THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
00:07:31>> IT'S ALL THE THINGS WE'RE
CONCERNED ABOUT.
00:07:34YOU KNOW, MIKE MAY HAVE SAID
THAT IT WAS A GREAT GENERAL
00:07:37ASSEMBLY, YOU KNOW, FOR THE
WOMEN OF OHIO, IT WAS AN AWFUL
00:07:41GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
WE'RE NOW HEARING FROM OBJECT
00:07:45STETRIGSES ALL OVER THE STATE,
AND BECAUSE OF WHAT MIKE AND
00:07:50THE OHIO LEGISLATURE DID WERE
SENDING WOMEN TO PITTSBURGH AND
00:07:54TO OTHER STATES FOR MEDICALLY
NECESSARY CARE NOW BECAUSE OF
00:07:57THINGS LIKE THAT LATE-TERM BAN
BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE ADEQUATE
00:08:02HEALTH EXEMPTION.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY
00:08:03SEEN A REALLY DANGEROUS TIME
FOR THE WOMEN OF OHIO.
00:08:07AND RIGHTFULLY SO, I THINK THE
WOMEN OF OHIO ARE VERY MUCH
00:08:12SCARED OF WHAT MIKE AND HIS
POLITICAL CRONIES ARE WORKING
00:08:16ON NOW.
I MEAN, WHAT THEY DESERVE IS TO
00:08:20HEAR FROM GOVERNOR KASICH AND
EVERYONE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE
00:08:24THEY STAND ON THINGS LIKE THE
HEARTBEAT BILL, WHERE THEY
00:08:27STAND ON THE VERY DANGEROUS
DEFUNDING OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD
00:08:30BILL THAT WAS INTRODUCED LAST
YEAR AND I'M SURE IT'S PART OF
00:08:33THE STRATEGY FOR THIS YEAR.
THE WOMEN OF OHIO DESERVE TO
00:08:36HAVE ACCESS TO QUALITY HEALTH
CARE, AND TO MAKE THEIR OWN
00:08:39MEDICAL DECISIONS.
IT SHOULDN'T BE -- MIKE, IT
00:08:41SHOULDN'T BE THE OHIO GENERAL
ASSEMBLY MAKING THOSE MEDICAL
00:08:44DECISIONS FOR THE WOMEN OF
OHIO.
00:08:46>> IS THE DEFUNDING OF PLANNED
PARENTHOOD OR MOVING PLANNED
00:08:48PARENTHOOD TO THE BACK OF THE
LINE FOR STATE FUNDS ON YOUR
00:08:50AGENDA?
>> ABSOLUTELY, 100%.
00:08:51OUR GOAL IS TO GET IT --
>> IT DOES PROVIDE SERVICES
00:08:56THAT GO BEYOND ABORTION.
IT PROVIDES WOMEN'S HEALTH
00:08:59SERVICES BEYOND THAT.
>> IN PLANNED PARENTHOOD, THEY
00:09:02SENT OUT A PRESS RELEASE
INDICATING THEY RECEIVED HALF A
00:09:06BILLION DOLLARS IN OUR TAX
DOLLARS LAST YEAR.
00:09:08THEY ALSO INCREASED THE NUMBER
OF ABORTIONS TO AN ALL-TIME
00:09:11HIGH THAT THEY PERFORMED IN
2012.
00:09:14WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS
LETSTION WHERE THE WOMEN ARE.
00:09:19THEY SEE LESS THAN 1,100 WOMEN
A YEAR.
00:09:22OUR LEGISLATION TAKES THESE
LIMITED FAMILY PLANNING DOLLARS
00:09:26AND GIVES IT TO COMMUNITY
ACTION AGENCIES, LOCAL
00:09:29DEPARTMENTS OF HEALTH, HUNDREDS
OF THOUSANDS OF WOMEN AND
00:09:31CHILDREN ARE GOING THERE.
THAT'S WHERE THE RESOURCES
00:09:33SHOULD GO.
JUST LIKE NURSING HOMES.
00:09:35MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE
DECIDING TO LIVE AT HOME.
00:09:38AND GOVERNOR KASICH SAID LET'S
GIVE THE MONEY WHERE THE PEOPLE
00:09:42ARE GOING.
SAME CONCEPT.
00:09:43>> IT'S AN OPEN COMPETITIVE
GRANT PROCESS.
00:09:48THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
WOUTS OUT AN R.F.P.
00:09:54ANYBODY, HEALTH CENTERS, ANY OF
THESE MEDICAL PROVIDERS CAN
00:09:57APLAY FOR THESE FUNDS.
WHAT THE BILL, AS IT PROPOSED
00:10:00LAST YEAR, SAID WE'RE NOT GOING
TO LET THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
00:10:05DECIDE THAT THIS IS THE MOST
QUALITY HEALTH SERVICE PROVIDER
00:10:08THAT THIS PLACE WILL SERVE THE
MOST WOMEN FOR THE LEAST AMOUNT
00:10:11OF DOLLARS.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THEM SAY
00:10:13WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS MIGHT BE
THE BEST QUALIFIED HEALTH
00:10:16PROVIDER, BUT WE HAVE TO GIVE
THE MONEY TO THIS PLACE WHICH
00:10:19MAY EVEN SERVE HALF AS MANY
WOMEN FOR TWICE AS MANY DOLLARS
00:10:22AND NOT BE ANYWHERE NEAR THE
COMMUNITY THAT NEEDS THE
00:10:25SERVICES THE MOST.
THEY'RE TAKING THOSE DECISIONS
00:10:27AWAY FROM THE OHIO DEPARTMENT
OF HEALTH AND PUTTING AGAIN N.
00:10:30THE HANDS OF, YOU KNOW,
POLITICAL PEOPLE IN THE GENERAL
00:10:34ASSEMBLY.
>> NONE THAT OF'S TRUE, CATHY
00:10:36-- EXCUSE ME, KAREN.
IT TOOK ME A SECOND TO DIGEST
00:10:39THAT BECAUSE THERE'S
APPROXIMATELY 30 PLANNED
00:10:41PARENTHOODS IN THE STATE OF
OHIO AND THEY'RE ALL LOCATED IN
00:10:44CLEVELAND, COLUMBUS.
NONE OF THEM ARE LOCATED IN
00:10:47SOUTHEAST OHIO.
THERE'S OVER PO IN SOUTHEAST
00:10:50OHIO REPRESENTING AND HELPING
WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
00:10:54>> THEY DON'T ALL PROVIDE THESE
--
00:10:56>> ABSOLUTELY, EVERY ONE OF
THEM.
00:10:58>> THAT'S SUCH A LIE.
>> PLANNED PARENTHOOD DOES NOT
00:11:01PROVIDE PRENATAL CARE.
THESE CENTERS DO.
00:11:03THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY SHOULD
GO.
00:11:05>> AREN'T SOME OF THESE
SO-CALLED CRISIS PREGNANCY
00:11:09CENTERS?
>> THEY WOULD NOT QUALIFY AND
00:11:11APPLY FOR THIS FUNDING.
NOT ONE PREGNANCY CENTER IN THE
00:11:16STATE OF OHIO.
>> THE MONEY GOING TO WHERE THE
00:11:19WOMEN GO TO SEEK SERVICES, DO
YOU TAKE ISSUE WITH THAT?
00:11:21>> I DO.
BECAUSE IF OHIO DEPARTMENT OF
00:11:25HEALTH THINKS THAT THE MONEY
SHOULD BE GOING SOMEPLACE ELSE,
00:11:27THEY SHOULD BE MAKING THE
DECISION TO FUND A GRANT
00:11:30PROGRAM IN THAT AREA.
RIGHT NOW, ANYBODY CAN APPLY
00:11:32FOR THAT MONEY.
IT IS NOT SAYING PLANNED
00:11:35PARENTHOOD IS THE ONLY PEOPLE
WHO CAN APPLY FOR THIS MONEY.
00:11:38AND, IN FACT, THE BILL AS
INTRODUCED WOULD ACTUALLY
00:11:41AFFECT MORE NONPLANNED
PARENTHOOD CENTERS THAN IT
00:11:44AFFECTS PLANNED PARENTHOOD
CENTERS.
00:11:46IT WOULD DEFUND THE FAMILY
PLANNING ASSOCIATES OF
00:11:48NORTHEAST OHIO.
THEY'RE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH
00:11:50PLANNED PARENTHOOD AT ALL.
THEY'RE COLLATERAL DAMAGE ON
00:11:54MIKE'S PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
THIS IS A BILL THAT'S DANGEROUS
00:11:56FOR WOMEN BECAUSE IT LIMITS
THEIR ACCESS.
00:11:58IT DOES NOT EXPAND THEIR ACCESS
TO FAMILY PLANNING CARE.
00:12:00>> HERE'S ONE THING I YOU BOTH
MIGHT AGREE ON THAT MAYBE
00:12:05PERSONHOOD IS NOT THE BEST
POLICY FOR THE STATE OF OHIO.
00:12:08PERSONHOOD WOULD BE LEGISLATION
OR AN AMENDMENT IN THIS CASE
00:12:12THAT WOULD GRANT PERSON STATUS
TO A FERTILIZED EGG.
00:12:15SO LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT
PERSONHOOD S THIS GOING TO
00:12:17HAPPEN?
>> LET ME BE CLEAR.
00:12:19EVERY BABY IS A PERSON, WHETHER
THEY'RE BORN OR UNBORN.
00:12:22WHAT OUR DISAGREEMENT IS WITH
THE PERSONHOOD AMENDMENT IS THE
00:12:26TACTICS AND STRATEGIES.
CURRENTLY IN THE STATE -- LET'S
00:12:28LOOK AT MISSISSIPPI LAST YEAR.
ARGUABLY THE LARGEST BIBLE BELT
00:12:33STATE IN THE NATION AND IT
FAILED THERE.
00:12:35I DIDN'T FOLLOW IT CLOSELY, I
JUST READ ABOUT IT THAT IT
00:12:38WASN'T SUCCESSFUL.
IT'S NOT -- TIMING IS VERY
00:12:41IMPORTANT IN THE PRO LIFE
MOVEMENT.
00:12:44THE MAJORITY OF OHIOIANS ARE
PRO LIFE IN DIFFERENT LEVELS
00:12:48AND DIFFERENT DEGREES.
GALUP POLL JUST DEMONSTRATED
00:12:53THAT.
THE POLLING INDICATES SIMILAR
00:12:55RESULTS IN OHIO.
BUT AS IT RELATES TO WINNING A
00:12:58BALLOT INITIATIVE IN THE STATE
OF OHIO, I DON'T BELIEVE WE
00:13:00WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL ON
PERSONHOOD AT THIS TIME.
00:13:03WE CERTAINLY WOULD BE OUTSPENT
BY HOLLYWOOD AND PLANNED
00:13:05PARENTHOOD, SO WE'RE GOING TO
PURSUE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ON A
00:13:09STEP BY STEP BASIS.
IT'S WORKED FOR 40 YEARS AND
00:13:13WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO
THAT.
00:13:15>> DOES PERSONHOOD -- DO YOU
FEAR PERSONHOOD?
00:13:17>> LET ME GO BACK TO SOMETHING
THAT MIKE ALLUDED TO, THE
00:13:21MAJORITY OF AMERICANS BELIEVE
THAT ABORTION SHOULD BE ILLEGAL
00:13:24IS NOT THE CASE.
MIKE IS REFERRING TO A GALUP
00:13:29POLL AS PEOPLE WHO IDENTIFIED
--
00:13:32>> 52% SAID THEY BELIEVE
ABORTION SHOULD BE LEGAL ONLY
00:13:37IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.
>> ONLY IN CERTAIN
00:13:39CIRCUMSTANCES.
>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT PEOPLE WHO
00:13:41BELIEVE ROE SHOULD BE
OVERTURNED, 70% BELIEVE IT
00:13:46SHOULD NOT BE OVERTURNED.
ONLY 9% ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THE
00:13:49ORGANIZATIONAL STATEMENT OF
BANNING ALL ABORTIONS IN THE
00:13:53STATE OF OHIO IS THE ULTIMATE
GOAL.
00:13:55ONLY 9% OF AMERICANS ACTUALLY
BELIEVE.
00:13:58THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW,
TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PRO LIFE
00:14:00OR PRO CHOICE LABELING.
PEOPLE TALK ABOUT BEING PRO
00:14:03LIFE BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT
MAYBE THAT ISN'T THE RIGHT
00:14:05DECISION FOR THEM AT THIS TIME,
BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO MAKE
00:14:07THAT DECISION FOR SOMEBODY
ELSE.
00:14:09SO WHEN WE START THROWING
AROUND OH, THE MAJORITY OF
00:14:11AMERICANS ARE PRO LIFE,
THEREFORE, WE NEED TO OUTLAW
00:14:14ABORTION, THAT'S JUST NOT THE
CASE WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT
00:14:16THESE POLLS.
ON THE PERSONHOOD FRONT, OF
00:14:19COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE READY
TO FIGHT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER
00:14:22COMES OUR WAY, BE IT COMING
FROM MIKE, BE IT COMING FROM
00:14:25FAITH TO ACTION WITH THE
HEARTBEAT BILL, PERSONHOOD
00:14:29OHIO.
WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE, YOU
00:14:31KNOW, WILL OF THE PEOPLE OF
OHIO BEHIND US.
00:14:33THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH
PERSONHOOD.
00:14:35THEY DO NOT AGREE THAT BILLS,
ESPECIALLY THAT COULD EVEN
00:14:42AFFECT THE LEGALITY OF IN VITRO
FERTLYCATION AND CONTRACEPTION
00:14:46IS DEFINITELY WAY OUTSIDE OF
THE MAINSTREAM.
00:14:49>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT
CONTRACEPTION ISSUE.
00:14:51MIKE, I EVEN HEARD YOU SAY THAT
WHEN YOU LOOK AT A FALLING
00:14:54ABORTION RATE IN OHIO, YOU HAVE
TO THINK THAT CONTRACEPTION
00:14:58PLAYS A ROLE HERE.
ISN'T THIS AN AREA WHERE THERE
00:15:01COULD BE COMMON GROUND BETWEEN
THE TWO OF YOU, THAT
00:15:03CONTRACEPTION SHOULD BE
ENCOURAGED?
00:15:05>> WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH
ANYONE IF WE FIND WAYS TO SAVE
00:15:09LIVES, HELP WOMEN AND THEIR
CHILDREN.
00:15:11TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION
SPECIFICALLY, KAREN,
00:15:13CONTRACEPTION IS NOT AN ISSUE,
OUR MISSION STATEMENT STARTS AT
00:15:17THE POINT OF CONCEPTION.
WE'D BE NAIVE TO RECOGNIZE THE
00:15:21FACT THAT CONTRACEPTION HAS
PLAYED A ROLE IN REDUCING THE
00:15:25NUMBER OF UNWANTED PREGNANCIES.
WE BELIEVE ABSTINENCE HAS
00:15:31PLAYED A ROLE AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, SOME INTERESTING
00:15:33AND UNIQUE POLITICIANS HAVE
MADE SOME INTERESTING AND
00:15:36UNIQUE STATEMENTS REGARDING
CONTRACEPTION.
00:15:38THEY DIDN'T COME FROM OHIO
RIGHT TO LIFE.
00:15:40YOU'LL HAVE TO TALK TO THEM
ABOUT THEIR POSITION STATEMENT
00:15:42ON THAT.
IT'S AN ISSUE WE DO NOT GET
00:15:44INVOLVED WITH AS IT RELATES TO
CONTRACEPTION.
00:15:47THE CATHOLIC SUSH MUCH AS A
STRONG IDEA WITH.
00:15:54WE'D BE NAIVE TO SAY
CONTRACEPTION HASN'T PLAYED A
00:15:58ROLE.
>> DO YOU FEEL THAT'S AN AREA
00:16:00WHERE MIKE SHOULD BE GETTING
INVOLVED?
00:16:01>> OF COURSE, AND I THINK THAT
WE HAVE SEEN RELUCTANCE ON THE
00:16:07PART OF OHIO RIGHT TO LIFE AND,
YOU KNOW, GROUPS, YOU KNOW,
00:16:10ACROSS THE SPECTRUM TO, YOU
KNOW, SUPPORT COMMON SENSE, YOU
00:16:15KNOW, PRACTICES THAT INCREASE
ACCESS TO BIRTH CONTROL,
00:16:19INCREASE ACCESS TO FAMILY
PLANNING SERVICES,
00:16:22COMPREHENSIVE SEX EDUCATION.
BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE CAN,
00:16:25YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW,
PEOPLE TO NOT HAVE SEX OUTSIDE
00:16:28OF MARRIAGE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE
REALITY OF THE WORLD IS THAT
00:16:31PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE SEX.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY
00:16:34CHOOSE TO HAVE SEX, THEY NEED
TO HAVE THE INFORMATION THEY,
00:16:37YOU KNOW, DESERVE TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES FROM S.T.D.'S, TO
00:16:41PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM
UNPLANNED PREGNANCY.
00:16:43WE FOCUS SO MUCH ON OUTLAWING
ABORTION, MAKING ABORTION
00:16:46HARDER TO GET ACCESS TO, BUT
LET'S LOOK AT REDUCING THE
00:16:50NUMBER OF UNINTENDED
PREGNANCIES AND SUPPORTING
00:16:53WOMEN IN REAL WAYS, GIVING
DIAPERS AND FORMULA AND BABY
00:16:57CLOTHES OUT IS FABULOUS.
BUT SUPPORTING WOMEN THROUGH
00:17:01PARENTHOOD IS, YOU KNOW, MORE
INCLUSIVE.
00:17:03IT INVOLVES MAKING SURE THEY
HAVE LIVING WAGES SO THAT THEY
00:17:06CAN PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE, SO
THAT THEY HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE
00:17:10TO COVER THEIR PRENATAL CARE,
MAKING SURE THAT THEIR KIDS GO
00:17:13TO GOOD SCHOOLS, THEY LIVE IN
SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE
00:17:16THEY'RE NOT RISKING VIOLENCE
WALKING DOWN THE STREET TO
00:17:19THEIR FRIEND'S HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE START TALKING
00:17:21ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MATERIAL
SUPPORT, WE'RE PUTTING A BAND
00:17:24AID ON A MUCH LARGER PROBLEM.
SO CAN WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW,
00:17:28REALLY SUPPORTING WOMEN AND
FAMILY NECESSARY OHIO.
00:17:30>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT
POLL THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP
00:17:34HERE FROM LAST MONTH SHOWING
52% BELIEVING THAT ABORTION
00:17:37SHOULD BE LEGAL ONLY IN CERTAIN
CIRCUMSTANCES.
00:17:4028% SAY IT SHOULD BE LEGAL ANY
ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.
00:17:4418% SAID IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL
IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES.
00:17:46THIS SUGGESTS THAT MOST PEOPLE
ARE COMFORTABLE WITH
00:17:49REGULATIONS ON ABORTION.
DOES THAT MAKE IT HARDER FOR
00:17:51YOU TO DO YOUR JOB, JAMIE?
>> I THINK WHEN YOU REALLY SIT
00:17:56DOWN AND LOOK AT WHAT PEOPLE
ARE SUPPORTING, NO.
00:17:58I MEAN, EVERYBODY AGREES THAT
WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT, YOU
00:18:03KNOW, EVEN THE ROE DECISION WAS
THAT WAY.
00:18:06YOU KNOW, IT BROKE THE
PREGNANCY INTO THREE TRY
00:18:11MEFTERS.
IT SAID THAT THE STATE COULD
00:18:14COME IN AND BHAKE REGULATION ON
ABORTION CARE.
00:18:17WE NEED TO PROTECT WOMEN'S
HEALTH.
00:18:19WE NEED TO PROTECT WOMEN'S
LIVES.
00:18:20WE NEED TO PROTECT SURVIVORS OF
RAPE OR INCEST.
00:18:24SO MANY OF THESE BILLS THAT
PASSED IN THE 129TH GENERAL
00:18:27ASSEMBLY DIDN'T INCLUDE THESE.
AS I SAID EARLIER --
00:18:30>> NOT ONE.
NOT ONE BILL, JAMIE.
00:18:33COME ON.
SHE SAID ALL THESE BILLS THAT
00:18:36PASSED THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY,
NOT ONE OF THEM BANNED --
00:18:39>> NOT ONE OF THEM HAD ALL OF
THOSE EXCEPTIONS IN IT.
00:18:43NAME ONE OF THEM.
>> NAME ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE
00:18:46THOSE EXCEPTIONS?
NAME ONE THAT ADDRESSED IT.
00:18:50WE BELIEVE BABIES THAT CAN
SURVIVE OUTSIDE THE WOMB SHOULD
00:18:53BE PROTECTED.
THE HOSPITAL IS FULL OF BABIES
00:18:56THAT ARE BORN AND SURVIVE.
>> ADEQUATE --
00:19:01>> A HEALTH EXCEPTION.
YOU WANTED A MENTAL HEALTH
00:19:04EXCEPTION WHICH IS A LOOPHOLE
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
00:19:0780% OF WOMEN IN CALIFORNIA ARE
HAVING ABORTIONS DUE TO MENTAL
00:19:10HEALTH.
WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CRAZY
00:19:11PEOPLE IN HOLLYWOOD, BUT NOT
EVERY WOMAN IS HAVING AN
00:19:14ABORTION DUE TO MENTAL HEALTH.
WE HAVE A HEALTH EXCEPTION --
00:19:18>> A PERMANENT AND IRREVERSIBLE
MEDICAL CONDITION THAT IS TOO
00:19:23STRICT, AND OUR DOCTORS ARE --
>> THAT'S NOT TRUE.
00:19:25>> IT HAS NO FETAL ABNORMALITY
EXCEPTION IN IT.
00:19:30NO, IT HAS NO -- TELL ME --
>> THE AMERICAN MEDICAL
00:19:33ASSOCIATION SAYS IN THEIR OWN
LITERATURE THAT ABORTION SHOULD
00:19:37NOT HAPPEN AFTER 24 WEEKS.
WE HAVE SCIENCE ON OUR SIDE.
00:19:40>> BUT YOUR BILL GOES BACK --
>> NO, IT STARTS TESTING AT 20
00:19:43WEEKS.
AND IF THE BABY CAN SURVIVE
00:19:45OUTSIDE THE WOMB, ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S PUBLIC POLICY TO PROTECT
00:19:50THAT BABY.
>> BUT IF THAT FETUS HAD AN
00:19:54ABNORMALITY THAT WOULDN'T ALLOW
IT, THAT WOMAN SHOULD BE ABLE
00:19:56TO TERMINATE.
BECAUSE THAT OF LAW, WHATEVER
00:19:58IT SAYS, OUR DOCTORS ARE
SENDING WOMEN TO PITTSBURGH TO
00:20:01HAVE THE MEDICAL CARE THEY NEED
BECAUSE OF THE LAW THAT YOU GOT
00:20:05PASSED LAST YEAR.
WOMEN IN HIGH-RISK PREGNANCY
00:20:10SITUATIONS SHOULDN'T BE HAVING
TO DRIVE THREE HOURS FROM
00:20:12CLEVELAND, OHIO, TO PITTSBURGH,
TO GET THE MEDICAL CARE THAT
00:20:14THEY NEED.
>> AT THE HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY
00:20:18ABOUT.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU, MIKE,
00:20:20ABOUT ANOTHER POLL, ACTUALLY A
STATISTIC.
00:20:24ONE IN THREE WOMEN WILL HAVE AN
ABORTION BY THE AGE OF 45.
00:20:27IS THIS PROCEDURE SO COMMON,
THEN WHY SHOULD THIS PROCEDURE
00:20:31BE BANNED OUTRIGHT OR MADE SO
DIFFICULT THAT IT'S ESSENTIALLY
00:20:36BANNED?
>> THE ABORTION PROCEDURE?
00:20:38>> YEAH.
REGULATIONS, A LOT OF PEOPLE
00:20:41SUPPORT REGULATIONS, BUT TO BAN
IT OUTRIGHT WHEN ONE IN THREE
00:20:43WOMEN WOULD HAVE ONE BY THE AGE
OF 45 SEEMS A BIT EXTREME.
00:20:47>> I GUESS IN YOUR OPINION IT
SEEMS A BIT EXTREME.
00:20:49>> IT'S NOT MY OPINION.
IT'S JUST A QUESTION.
00:20:51>> I THINK AT THE END OF THE
DAY, AS THE POLLS DEMONSTRATE,
00:20:56WE WANT TO MAKE ABORTIONS RARE.
OUR GOAL IS TO END ABORTION.
00:20:59CAN YOU MAKE A LOT OF THINGS
ILLEGAL, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO
00:21:01HAPPEN.
OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO
00:21:03CHANGE THE CULTURE.
MORE AND MORE YOUNG PEOPLE
00:21:06IDENTIFY WITH THE PRO LIFE
MOVEMENT.
00:21:08WHETHER IT HAPPENS IN MY LIFE
OR THE NEXT PERSON'S LIFETIME,
00:21:10AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE
THE NEEDLE, WE'RE GOING TO SEE
00:21:15LESS ABORTIONS.
HOPEFULLY SOMEDAY WE'LL HAVE
00:21:17NONE.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN
00:21:18MY LIFETIME, I KNOW.
THAT OUR GOAL IS CONTINUE TO
00:21:22HELP WOMEN MAKE HEALTHY
DECISIONS.
00:21:25WE HOPED PLANNED PARENTHOOD
WOULD GET ONBOARD.
00:21:27WHEN GOVERNOR KASICH GIVES MORE
MONEY, I SAW NO PRESS RELEASE
00:21:31THANKING THE GOVERNOR TO HELP
--
00:21:33>> PLANNED PARENTHOOD PUT OUT
-- THEY DID PUT OUT A PRESS
00:21:36RELEASE ON WHEN THE GOVERNOR
ACTUALLY EXTENDED ACCESS TO
00:21:41MEDICAID FOR PRENATAL CARE.
>> THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
00:21:43>> THERE'S AN AGREEMENT.
>> WE HAVE ONE.
00:21:45>> ADOPTION, YOU TALK ABOUT
THAT BEING ON YOUR AGENDA.
00:21:48I'M CERTAIN THAT ADOPTION IS
CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT A LOT
00:21:50OF WOMEN --
>> SUPPORT.
00:21:52>> THERE'S MORE AGREEMENT.
>> EXCELLENT.
00:21:54>> ONE MORE FINAL QUESTION FOR
BOTH OF YOU.
00:21:56A PUGH RESEARCH POLL EARLIER
THIS MONTH SHOWS 53% OF
00:22:03RESPONDENTS SAYING THAT
ABORTION IS NOT THE MOST
00:22:05IMPORTANT ISSUE.
THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING,
00:22:07ISN'T IT?
>> I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT
00:22:09ARE OUT OF WORK RIGHT NOW AND
THEY NEED JOBS.
00:22:12LUCKILY WE HAVE A GREAT
GOVERNMENT.
00:22:15WE'RE DOWN TO 6.56%
UNEMPLOYMENT.
00:22:18I KNOW KELLY, YOUR COLLEAGUE
SAYS WE LOOK TO THESE GUYS TO
00:22:22GIVE US JOBS.
NOW WE'RE DOWN ALMOST FOUR
00:22:26POINTS.
THEY CAN FOCUS ON OTHER ISSUES.
00:22:28WE CAN'T JUST FOCUS ON ONE
THING ONLY.
00:22:30THERE'S MULTIPLE ISSUES.
THERE'S 500 AND SOME BILLS
00:22:34INTRODUCED LAST GENERAL
ASSEMBLY.
00:22:35THEY WEREN'T ALL ABORTION
RELATED.
00:22:37WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WALK AND
CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME.
00:22:39I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE WITH
THAT.
00:22:41>> TOTALLY, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO
REMEMBER THAT, YOU KNOW, IT
00:22:45WASN'T IGNORED.
JOHN KASICH SIGNED MORE BILLS
00:22:48INTO LAW IN THE LAST GENERAL
ASSEMBLY THAN IN THE LAST 10
00:22:52YEARS BY ANY OTHER GOVERNOR.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE TO
00:22:57SEE WHAT DIDN'T -- EVERY SINGLE
TIME SOMETHING PASSED THROUGH
00:23:01THE HOUSE, ONE OF OUR PRO
CHOICE MEMBERS GOT UP AND
00:23:06INTRODUCED AN AAMENDMENT TO
INCREASE ACCESS TO PRENATAL
00:23:10CARE.
IN OHIO IN THE INDIVIDUAL
00:23:12INSURANCE MARKET, WE DO NOT
REQUIRE PRENATAL CARE.
00:23:16WHEN YOU SEARCH FOR PRENATAL
CARE IN THE INSURANCE MARKET,
00:23:20IT IS INSANELY EXPENSIVE AND
INSANELY RARE TO EXIST.
00:23:23>> WHY DOESN'T PLANNED
PARENTHOOD OFFER PRENATAL CARE?
00:23:27>> I DON'T SPEAK FOR PLANNED
PARENTHOOD.
00:23:30>> I WOULD SUSPECT THEY WOULD
PROVIDE --
00:23:32>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT DIDN'T
PASS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
00:23:35COULD DEFINITELY HELP WOMEN IN
MAKING A DECISION ON WHETHER OR
00:23:39NOT TO CONTINUE A PREGNANCY OR
HAVE AN ABORTION.
00:23:42MAKING SURE THEY HAVE PRENATAL
CARE, MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE
00:23:45CARE THEY NEED FOR THEIR FAMILY
MEMBERS.
00:23:47AND EVERY SINGLE TIME THOSE
BILLS WERE INTRODUCED, THE
00:23:52ANTI-CHOICE MAJORITY
IMMEDIATELY TABLED THOSE
00:23:53AMENDMENTS.
MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE SAYING
00:23:55ABORTION ISN'T THEIR NUMBER ONE
ISSUE, BUT THEY'RE SEEING THIS
00:23:58ISSUE IN A MUCH BROADER
SPECTRUM.
00:24:00THEY'RE SEEING IT INCLUDING
PREVENTING UNINTENDING
00:24:05PREGNANCY.
MAKING SURE WE'RE SUPPORTING
00:24:07WOMEN WHO WANT TO HAVE CHILDREN
AND WE'RE NOT PUTTING WOMEN IN
00:24:09JAIL BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DOING
THE C-SECTION THAT THEIR DOCTOR
00:24:12WANTED THEM TO DO.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS IN A MUCH
00:24:16MORE COMPREHENSIVE,
REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE FRAMEWORK,
00:24:19MAKING SURE WE'RE SUPPORTING
ALL WOMEN IN ALL OF THEIR
00:24:22HEALTH DECISIONS.
>> IS THE HEARTBEAT BILL BAD
00:24:25FOR JOHN KASICH, FINAL
QUESTION?
00:24:27>> YOU'D HAVE TO ASK JOHN
KASICH.
00:24:28>> IN YOUR OPINION, WITH A
GOVERNOR RUNNING FOR
00:24:33RE-ELECTION, WOULD IT BE TOO
CONTROVERSIAL?
00:24:36>> I DON'T THINK ANY PRO LIFE
LAW IS CONTROVERSIAL, IF IT
00:24:42HELPS SAVE LIVES.
>> HOW ABOUT YOU?
00:24:44>> WAIT UNTIL THE 2012
ELECTION.
00:24:46>> EVERY SINGLE PRO LIFE MEMBER
OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WON
00:24:51RE-ELECTION.
DEMOCRATS WIN, THE PEOPLE
00:24:52SPOKE.
WHEN REPUBLICANS WIN, THE
00:24:54SYSTEM'S BROKEN AND WE NEED TO
FIX IT.
00:24:57IT'S A TIRED ARGUMENT.
>> WHO WON SAY THE WIDE?
00:25:01>> PRO LIFERS.
REPUBLICAN WAS TOP TWO.
00:25:05>> PLEASE.
I THOUGHT THAT BROWN WON.
00:25:09AND OBAMA WON.
>> AND REPUBLICANS INCREASED
00:25:11THEIR MAJORITY IN THE OHIO
HOUSE.
00:25:13>> DEMOCRATS GOT MORE VOTES.
>> WELL, AGAIN DAY, YOU KNOW --
00:25:19>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
YES, I THINK THE 2012 ELECTION
00:25:24PROVED THAT ANTI-CHOICE BILLS
ARE DANGEROUS FOR POLITICIANS
00:25:28WHO HAVE TO RUN STATEWIDE AND
IT SHOWS THAT THE WOMEN OF
00:25:32OHIO, THE WOMEN OF THIS COUNTRY
ARE READY TO STAND UP AND FIGHT
00:25:35WHEN THEIR RIGHTS ARE BEING
TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM.
00:25:37>> ALL RIGHT, JAMIE AND MIKE,
THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH FOR
00:25:40BEING HERE.
THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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