| 00:00:04 | >> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
BROADCAST OF "THE STATE OF OHIO" |
| 00:00:11 | SON-IN-LAW OFFICES OF -- HELPING
INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES SOLVE |
| 00:00:17 | COMPLEX LEGAL PROBLEMS ACROSS
THE OHIO AND AROUND THE WORLD. |
| 00:00:21 | AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING |
| 00:00:27 | 131,000 TEACHERS,
PROFESSIONALS, AND HIGHER |
| 00:00:30 | EDUCATION FACULTY WORKING FOR
GREAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR EVERY |
| 00:00:35 | CHILD.
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE STATE |
| 00:00:37 | OF OHIO IS MADE POSSIBLE BY
ETECH OHIO. |
| 00:00:42 | >> THE FILING DEADLINE COMES AND
GOES, AND LOTS OF WELL-KNOWN |
| 00:00:46 | CANDIDATES ARE BACK IN THE
POLITICAL ARENA. |
| 00:00:47 | AS DEMOCRATS UNITE IN THEIR
DRIVE TO PUT A LAW BEFOREÑi |
| 00:00:48 | VOTERS FOR THE THIRD TIME,
REPUBLICANS APPEAR TO BE |
| 00:00:51 | BATTLING A CIVIL WAR WITHIN
THEIR RANKS. TWO LEADING EXPERTS |
| 00:00:54 | IN STATE POLITICS TALK ABOUT
WHAT THEY THINK IS REALLY GOING |
| 00:00:57 | ON.
AND TWO OF THE NATION'S TOP |
| 00:00:59 | ECONOMIC MINDS FACE OFF AND
TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WISH THEY |
| 00:01:01 | COULD CONVINCE THE OTHER TO
THINK. |
| 00:01:03 | ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO". |
| 00:01:07 | THE DEADLINE FOR FILING
PETITIONS TO RUN IN THE MARCH |
| 00:01:14 | PRIMARIES FOR STATE LAWMAKERS
AND THE US SENATE WAS THIS WEEK, |
| 00:01:16 | AND THERE WERE SOME SURPRISES
IN THE LIST OF THOSE WHO TURNED |
| 00:01:19 | IN THEIR PAPERWORK.
OHIO DEMOCRATS HAVE TAKEN THE |
| 00:01:22 | RARE STEP OF PUTTING UP A
CANDIDATE FOR EVERY OHIO HOUSE |
| 00:01:25 | DISTRICT IN 2012, EVEN THOSE
THAT VOTE RELIABLY REPUBLICAN. |
| 00:01:28 | THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT'S
HAPPENED SINCE THE EARLY 90S, |
| 00:01:33 | WHEN THE LEGENDARY VERN RIFFE
WAS HOUSE SPEAKER. |
| 00:01:35 | THE PARTY SAYS THE RECRUITMENT
EFFORT SHOWS THEY'RE ENERGIZED |
| 00:01:39 | FOLLOWING THE SUCCESSFUL
CAMPAIGN TO REPEAL SENATE BILL |
| 00:01:42 | 5, THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
REFORM LAW. THE PARTY SAYS 10 |
| 00:01:44 | TEACHERS HAVE FILED TO RUN FOR
THE LEGISLATURE, ALONG WITH A |
| 00:01:48 | NUMBER OF VETERANS. AND FIVE
FORMER STATE LAWMAKERS HOPE TO |
| 00:01:51 | RETURN TO THEIR OLD JOBS, AMONG
THEM, OHIO DEMOCRATIC PARTY |
| 00:01:55 | CHAIR CHRIS REDFERN.
STATE TREASURER JOSH MANDEL |
| 00:01:59 | FACES A CROWDED FIELD ON HIS
WAY TO THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION |
| 00:02:01 | FOR US SENATE. FIVE OTHERS HAVE
FILED TO RUN AGAINST HIM, THOUGH |
| 00:02:05 | HE HASN'T OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED
HE'S RUNNING. |
| 00:02:07 | THE WINNER OF THE 6-WAY CONTEST
-- FIVE-WAY REPUBLICAN CONTEST |
| 00:02:17 | WOULD FACE INCUMBENT U.S. SEN.
SHERROD BROWN, A DEMOCRAT, IN |
| 00:02:19 | NOVEMBER IN ONE OF THE NATION'S
MOST CLOSELY WATCHED SENATE |
| 00:02:22 | RACES.
MANDEL ALREADY HAS 3.3 MILLION |
| 00:02:24 | DOLLARS IN THE BANK, COMPARED
TO BROWNS 4.2 MILLION, BUT |
| 00:02:25 | MANDEL HAS OUTRAISED BROWN IN
BOTH OF THE LAST TWO QUARTERS. |
| 00:02:28 | THOUGH THE PRIMARIES FOR
CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENCY |
| 00:02:33 | AREN'T SCHEDULED TILL JUNE,
CANDIDATES FOR THOSE FEDERAL |
| 00:02:38 | OFFICES WERE ADVISED TO FILE
THEIR PAPERWORK THIS WEEK AS |
| 00:02:40 | WELL.
FOUR CANDIDATES FILED FOR |
| 00:02:42 | PRESIDENT -- THE INCUMBENT
DEMOCRAT BARACK OBAMA, ALONG |
| 00:02:46 | WITH THREE REPUBLICAN
CHALLENGERS, NEWT GINGRICH, |
| 00:02:47 | RICK PERRY AND MITT ROMNEY.
SEVERAL NOTABLE NAMES CAME UP |
| 00:02:52 | IN THE FILINGS FOR CONGRESS.
AS EXPECTED, REPUBLICAN |
| 00:02:56 | CONGRESSMEN STEVE AUSTRIA AND
MIKE TURNER WILL GO AGAINST ONE |
| 00:02:58 | ANOTHER IN THE 10TH DISTRICT,
AND DEMOCRATS MARCY KAPTUR AND |
| 00:03:02 | DENNIS KUCINICH WILL FACE OFF
IN THE 9TH. |
| 00:03:04 | THE MAN WHO BECAME KNOWN AS JOE
THE PLUMBER IN THE 2008 |
| 00:03:08 | PRESIDENTIAL RACE, SAMUEL
WURZELBACHER, COULD END UP |
| 00:03:12 | AGAINST ONE OF THEM -- HE'S
FILED FOR THE REPUBLICAN |
| 00:03:16 | NOMINATION IN THE 9TH.
AND CURRENT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS |
| 00:03:19 | JIM RENACCI, A REPUBLICAN, AND
BETTY SUTTON, A DEMOCRAT, FILED |
| 00:03:22 | IN THE 16TH.
IN THE NEW 3RD CONGRESSIONAL |
| 00:03:26 | DISTRICT, FORMER HOUSE MAJORITY
LEADER JOYCE BEATTY, REP. TED |
| 00:03:29 | CELESTE, FORMER CONGRESSWOMAN
MARY JO KILROY AND COLUMBUS |
| 00:03:31 | CITY COUNCILMEMBER PRISCILLA
TYSON ARE ALL VYING FOR THE |
| 00:03:37 | DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION.
THERE WILL BE A DEMOCRATIC |
| 00:03:41 | PRIMARY BATTLE BETWEEN
INCUMBENT MARCIA FUDGE AND STATE |
| 00:03:42 | SENATOR NINA TURNER IN THE 11TH
DISTRICT. AND CURRENT 15TH |
| 00:03:47 | CONGRESSMAN REPUBLICAN STEVE
STIVERS COULD FACE THE ATHENS |
| 00:03:51 | LAW DIRECTOR, DEMOCRAT PATRICK
LANG, IN THE 16TH DISTRICT. |
| 00:03:53 | -- IN THE 6TH DISTRICT,
INCUMBENT REPUBLICAN BILL |
| 00:04:00 | JOHNSON AND DEMOCRATIC FORMER
CONGRESSMAN CHARLIE WILSON BOTH |
| 00:04:02 | FILED.
AND IN THE 1ST DISTRICT, TEA |
| 00:04:04 | PARTY ACTIVIST DAVID LEWIS,
WHO'S BEEN ARRESTED PROTESTING |
| 00:04:07 | OUTSIDE OF US HOUSE SPEAKER
JOHN BOEHNER'S OFFICE, WILL RUN |
| 00:04:10 | AGAINST BOEHNER IN THE
REPUBLICAN PRIMARY. |
| 00:04:13 | MONTHS AFTER IT PASSED THE
HOUSE, THE BILL THAT WOULD |
| 00:04:18 | IMPOSE THE NATION'S STRICTEST
BAN ON ABORTION HAD ITS FIRST |
| 00:04:20 | HEARING IN THE SENATE THIS
WEEK, SOMETHING THAT SOME |
| 00:04:24 | OBSERVERS HAD THOUGHT WOULDN'T
HAPPEN THIS YEAR. |
| 00:04:26 | AND THE BILL IS NOW POISED TO
BE VOTED ON BY THE FULL SENATE |
| 00:04:33 | BY THE END OF 2011.
THE SO-CALLED "HEARTBEAT BILL" |
| 00:04:35 | WOULD OUTLAW ABORTIONS AT THE
FIRST DETECTABLE FETAL |
| 00:04:36 | HEARTBEAT, SOMETIMES HEARD AS
EARLY AS SIX WEEKS INTO |
| 00:04:39 | PREGNANCY.
SUPPORTERS HAVE BEEN PRESSURING |
| 00:04:42 | STATE LAWMAKERS TO PASS IT IN A
CAMPAIGN-LIKE EFFORT THAT'S |
| 00:04:45 | INCLUDED RADIO AND TELEVISION
ADS AND A BANNER FLOWN OVER THE |
| 00:04:48 | STATEHOUSE.
THE BILL HAS SPLIT THE PRO-LIFE |
| 00:04:51 | COMMUNITY -- OHIO RIGHT TO LIFE
HAS VOTED NOT TO OFFICIALLY |
| 00:04:53 | BACK IT BECAUSE OF CONCERNS OVER
ITS CONSTITUTIONALITY. |
| 00:04:57 | HEARTBEAT BILL SUPPORTERS HAVE
STARTED THEIR OWN POLITICAL |
| 00:05:02 | ACTION COMMITTEE AND SEVERAL
LOCAL RIGHT TO LIFE GROUPS HAVE |
| 00:05:04 | BROKEN AWAY FROM OHIO RIGHT TO
LIFE TO JOIN IT. |
| 00:05:06 | OHIO HAS MADE A $400 MILLION
SALES PITCH TO LURE SEARS |
| 00:05:12 | HOLDING COMPANY TO OHIO.
BUT GOV. JOHN KASICH, WHO'S |
| 00:05:16 | NORMALLY QUITE CONFIDENT ABOUT
BUSINESS DEALINGS, CONTINUES TO |
| 00:05:18 | BE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT OHIO'S
ABILITY TO DELIVER A DEAL. |
| 00:05:20 | WHEN ASKED THIS WEEK IF HE WAS
HOPEFUL ABOUT GETTING THE |
| 00:05:27 | RETAILER, KASICH RESPONDED --
>> NO, I'M STEADY ABOUT IT. |
| 00:05:30 | IT'S SORT OF LIKE ALL THE, ALL
US FOOTBALL FANS FEEL ABOUT THE |
| 00:05:35 | OPENING GAME OF THE SEASON.
WE'RE STEADY. WE'LL SEE WHAT |
| 00:05:38 | HAPPENS.
>> HE WAS EVEN MORE DIRECT A FEW |
| 00:05:42 | MOMENTS LATER.
>> IF I WERE BETTING, I'D BET |
| 00:05:45 | THEY'RE NOT COMING TO OHIO.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT |
| 00:05:47 | LOOKING AT THIS EVERY WHICH WAY
TO SUNDAY. |
| 00:05:49 | >> THE $400 MILLION INCENTIVE
OHIO HAS OFFERED TO SEARS IS |
| 00:05:53 | REPORTEDLY FOUR TIMES THE OFFER
ILLINOIS HAS MADE TO KEEP THE |
| 00:05:56 | COMPANY THERE.
AUSTIN, TEXAS, IS ALSO |
| 00:06:00 | REPORTEDLY IN THE RUNNING TO
LAND SEARS. |
| 00:06:02 | A STATE OFFICE SAYS OHIO IS
TAKING IN MORE MONEY THAN |
| 00:06:06 | EXPECTED WHILE SPENDING LESS
THAN WHAT WAS PROJECTED UNDER A |
| 00:06:10 | STATE BUDGET PASSED EARLIER
THIS YEAR. NUMBERS FROM THE |
| 00:06:12 | OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET
SHOW THE STATE HAS TAKEN IN $96 |
| 00:06:15 | MILLION MORE IN TAXES THAN WHAT
WAS ESTIMATED IN THE BUDGET |
| 00:06:18 | THAT TOOK EFFECT JULY 1.
MEANWHILE, THE OHIO HAS SPENT |
| 00:06:24 | $268 MILLION LESS THAN
PROJECTED OUT OF THE FUND USED |
| 00:06:26 | TO PAY FOR MOST OPERATIONS OF
THE STATE. |
| 00:06:29 | HOWEVER, THE BUDGET OFFICE SAYS
CHANGES IN MEDICAID PAYMENTS |
| 00:06:34 | HAVE DELAYED STATE
EXPENDITURES, WHICH COULD CATCH |
| 00:06:37 | UP.
ONE WOULD THINK 2011 WOULD HAVE |
| 00:06:40 | BEEN A GOOD YEAR FOR REPUBLICANS
IN OHIO. |
| 00:06:42 | THE OHIO GOP SWEPT THE 2010
ELECTIONS WITH A TSUNAMI OF RED |
| 00:06:45 | -- EVERY OFFICE ON THE
STATEWIDE BALLOT WENT |
| 00:06:48 | REPUBLICAN, AND THE OHIO HOUSE
WAS TURNED BACK INTO REPUBLICAN |
| 00:06:52 | HANDS.
THE SENATE WAS ALREADY FIRMLY IN |
| 00:06:54 | THE GOP'S CONTROL. BUT AFTER
THE CONTROVERSY OVER SENATE BILL |
| 00:06:57 | 5 AND THE DEFEAT OF ISSUE 2,
THE SPLIT WITHIN THE PRO-LIFE |
| 00:07:02 | COMMUNITY OVER THE HEARTBEAT
BILL, THE LEGAL SKIRMISHES OVER |
| 00:07:04 | JOBSOHIO AND THE SPAT OVER THE
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT MAP, |
| 00:07:08 | THIS HAS BECOME A CHALLENGING
YEAR FOR THOSE CLOSELY ALIGNED |
| 00:07:11 | WITH THE PARTY STARTING WITH
THE MAN AT THE TOP. |
| 00:07:14 | IT'S NO SECRET THAT OHIO GOP
CHAIR KEVIN DEWINE ISN'T BEST |
| 00:07:19 | FRIENDS WITH GOV. JOHN KASICH.
KASICH ACTUALLY CALLED ON |
| 00:07:22 | DEWINE TO RESIGN AFTER THE 2010
ELECTIONS, SO KASICH COULD |
| 00:07:27 | INSTALL HIS OWN CANDIDATE AS
PARTY CHAIR. |
| 00:07:31 | DISLIKE OF THE CHAIR'S
LEADERSHIP BECAME MORE OBVIOUS |
| 00:07:34 | LAST WEEKEND, WHEN A LETTER
HOUSE SPEAKER BILL BATCHELDER |
| 00:07:37 | WROTE TO DEWINE WENT PUBLIC.
IN HIS LETTER TO GOP CAUCUS |
| 00:07:42 | MEMBERS, BATCHELDER ALL BUT
DEMANDS DEWINE RESIGN, WRITING |
| 00:07:46 | ABOUT WHAT HE CALLS "MY DEEP
CONCERN ABOUT THE DIRECTION THE |
| 00:07:49 | STATE CHAIRMAN IS LEADING OUR
PARTY." |
| 00:07:51 | HE TARGETS A SPEECH DEWINE GAVE
TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY STATE |
| 00:07:55 | CENTRAL COMMITTEE, CALLING IT
AN "UNPROVOKED ATTACK". THE |
| 00:07:57 | LETTER READS IN PART --
IN A SPEECH BEFORE A PUBLIC |
| 00:08:03 | SESSION OF THE PARTY'S
GOVERNING BODY, THE CHAIRMAN |
| 00:08:04 | ACCUSED OUR GOVERNOR'S TEAM OF
BEING MOTIVATED BY ARROGANCE |
| 00:08:07 | AND PERSONAL PROFIT.
HE ALLEGED THAT GOVERNOR |
| 00:08:12 | KASICH'S TEAM WAS ATTEMPTING TO
TAKE OVER THE PARTY FOR |
| 00:08:13 | PERSONAL PROFIT, EGO AND POWER.
IT IS INCONCEIVABLE TO ME THAT |
| 00:08:17 | THE OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY
CHAIRMAN, WHOSE ROLE IS SUPPOSED |
| 00:08:21 | TO BE SUPPORTING REPUBLICAN
EFFORTS, CANDIDATES, AND |
| 00:08:22 | OFFICEHOLDERS, WOULD MAKE SUCH
BASELESS, NEGATIVE COMMENTS |
| 00:08:25 | ABOUT OHIO'S GOVERNOR IN A
PUBLIC FORUM. |
| 00:08:28 | BATCHELDER GOES ON TO CLAIM
THAT DEWINE UNDERMINED |
| 00:08:33 | REPUBLICAN INCUMBENTS IN 2010 BY
PERSUADING DONORS NOT TO |
| 00:08:35 | CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR CAMPAIGNS.
HE ALSO ACCUSES DEWINE OF |
| 00:08:41 | REFUSING TO LEND PARTY
RESOURCES TO INCUMBENTS FACING |
| 00:08:44 | PRIMARY CHALLENGERS AND REFUSING
TO ALLOW GOP HOUSE MEMBERS TO |
| 00:08:49 | PARTICIPATE IN PARTY LEADERSHIP
MEETINGS, AND BLASTS HIM FOR |
| 00:08:52 | PAYING 1.7 MILLION DOLLARS TO
TWO CONSULTANTS WHO WERE THE |
| 00:08:55 | SUBJECTS OF FEDERAL
INVESTIGATIONS. |
| 00:09:01 | DEWINE FIRED BACK, SAYING
BATCHELDER DIDN'T HEAR THE |
| 00:09:03 | SPEECH AND APPARENTLY DIDN'T
READ IT, AND THAT IT APPEARED |
| 00:09:05 | TO HIM THAT THE SPEAKER HAS, IN
DEWINE'S WORDS, "A GREAT DEAL |
| 00:09:08 | OF HOSTILITY TOWARD THE OHIO
REPUBLICAN PARTY." |
| 00:09:11 | AND DEWINE WRITES -- "I FEAR
THAT THOSE WHO ASKED FOR YOU TO |
| 00:09:16 | SEND YOUR MEMO DON'T HAVE OUR
PARTY'S BEST INTERESTS AT |
| 00:09:18 | HEART, AND THAT THEY ARE TRYING
TO MANIPULATE YOU." |
| 00:09:21 | DEWINE SAYS THAT THE
ACCUSATIONS LEVELED AGAINST HIM |
| 00:09:24 | WITH REGARD TO WITHHOLDING
SUPPORT FROM CANDIDATES ARE -- |
| 00:09:26 | QUOTING HERE -- "FLAT OUT
WRONG", AND HE NOTED THE |
| 00:09:30 | CONSULTANTS WERE EXONERATED.
AND DEWINE ADDS -- |
| 00:09:32 | "MR. SPEAKER, I'M TROUBLED
THAT, INSTEAD OF CALLING ME |
| 00:09:35 | DIRECTLY TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE,
YOU CHOSE TO CRITICIZE ME, THE |
| 00:09:38 | STAFF OF THE OHIO REPUBLICAN
PARTY, AND MEMBERS OF THE STATE |
| 00:09:42 | CENTRAL COMMITTEE IN A VERY
PUBLIC MANNER. |
| 00:09:44 | AS YOU KNOW, I'VE TRIED TO REACH
OUT TO YOU OVER THE COURSE OF |
| 00:09:47 | THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
YOU'VE NOT RETURNED A SINGLE |
| 00:09:51 | CALL.
I WISH YOU WOULD." |
| 00:09:52 | DEWINE, BATCHELDER AND KASICH
AREN'T TALKING ABOUT THE EMAILS. |
| 00:09:54 | AND THEN THERE'S WHAT'S
HAPPENING ON THE DEMOCRATIC |
| 00:09:59 | SIDE.
BOLSTERED BY A RECORD NUMBER OF |
| 00:10:01 | SIGNATURES TO PUT SENATE BILL 5
ON THE BALLOT, AND THE |
| 00:10:03 | SUBSEQUENT DEFEAT OF ISSUE 2,
DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TWO MORE |
| 00:10:07 | BALLOT CHALLENGES TO
LEGISLATION. |
| 00:10:09 | THE FIRST IS THE ELECTION
REFORM PACKAGE KNOWN AS HOUSE |
| 00:10:13 | BILL 194, WHICH SHORTENS THE
EARLY VOTING WINDOW AND MAKES |
| 00:10:16 | SOME OTHER CHANGES THAT
DEMOCRATS FEEL MIGHT SUPPRESS |
| 00:10:20 | THE VOTE. THE PARTY TURNED IN
MORE THAN 300-THOUSAND |
| 00:10:23 | SIGNATURES THE WEEK OF
THANKSGIVING. |
| 00:10:25 | THE SECOND IS THE BATTLE OVER
THE REPUBLICAN-DRAWN MAP OF |
| 00:10:27 | CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS. THE
PARTY HAS UNTIL CHRISTMAS DAY |
| 00:10:30 | TO TURN IN SIGNATURES TO PUT
THAT BEFORE VOTERS NEXT YEAR, |
| 00:10:33 | AND THERE ARE REPORTS THE PARTY
IS RUNNING LOW ON MONEY AND |
| 00:10:36 | HAVING TO RELY HEAVILY ON
VOLUNTEERS. |
| 00:10:38 | FOR SOME ANALYSIS ON WHAT'S
HAPPENING WITHIN OHIO'S TWO |
| 00:10:43 | MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES, AS THE
2012 CAMPAIGNS GET UNDERWAY, I |
| 00:10:47 | SOUGHT OUT TWO OF THE MOST
KNOWLEDGEABLE EXPERTS ON THE |
| 00:10:50 | PARTIES IN OHIO.
PAUL BECK IS A POLITICAL SCIENCE |
| 00:10:54 | PROFESSOR AT OHIO STATE
UNIVERSITY IN COLUMBUS AND THE |
| 00:10:55 | FORMER CHAIR OF THE DEPARTMENT.
BECK SAYS HE THINKS THE LONG- |
| 00:10:59 | STANDING FEUD BETWEEN THE
GOVERNOR AND THE OHIO GOP PARTY |
| 00:11:02 | CHAIR IS STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE,
AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY TRICKLING |
| 00:11:05 | DOWN TO OTHERS WITHIN THE PARTY
WHO ARE CHOOSING SIDES. |
| 00:11:07 | >> THERE IS OBVIOUSLY JOSTLING
THAT GOES ON WITHIN A PARTICULAR |
| 00:11:18 | PARTY.
THERE IS A CLASH OF AMBITION |
| 00:11:21 | SOMETIMES.
GOVERNORS, SPEAKERS OF THE |
| 00:11:23 | HOUSE, OTHER PEOPLE LIKE TO HAVE
PEOPLE THEY TRUST, THEIR ALLIES |
| 00:11:30 | IN A POSITION AS POWERFUL AS THE
REPUBLICAN CHAIR OF THE STATE |
| 00:11:35 | COMMITTEE.
THERE IS THAT KIND OF A CLASH |
| 00:11:37 | THAT GOES ON.
THERE ARE SOME POLICY |
| 00:11:39 | DISAGREEMENTS.
AND REMEMBER YEARS AGO WHEN |
| 00:11:44 | SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES WANTED TO
TAKE OVER THE REPUBLICAN PARTY |
| 00:11:47 | HERE IN OHIO.
THEY WERE MOUNTING CHALLENGES AT |
| 00:11:51 | THE PRECINCT AWARD LEVELS.
THEY WANTED TO TRY TO INCREASE |
| 00:11:56 | THEIR INFLUENCE ON THE STATE
COMMITTEE. |
| 00:11:58 | ALTERNATELY, IT WAS NOT THAT
SUCCESSFUL. |
| 00:12:01 | IT IS NOT SO MUCH AMBITION.
I AM NOT SURE WHAT THIS IS OVER. |
| 00:12:09 | I DO NOT SEE POLICY
DISAGREEMENTS THERE. |
| 00:12:13 | I THINK THIS IS A CLASH OF
AMBITION. |
| 00:12:15 | THERE IS MORE AMBITION THAN
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE |
| 00:12:21 | THE AMBITIONS.
SO THIS IN FIGHTING BECOMES MORE |
| 00:12:27 | PRONOUNCED.
LET ME ADD TO THAT -- YOU HAVE |
| 00:12:30 | THE GOVERNOR AND THE SPEAKER OF
THE HOUSE WHO IN TERMS OF THEIR |
| 00:12:35 | PERSONAL STYLES ARE VERY
COMBATIVE AND AGGRESSIVE. |
| 00:12:37 | THAT MAY BE PART OF THE MIX AS
WELL. |
| 00:12:39 | I DO NOT READ KEVIN DEWINE AS
BEING COMBATIVE OR AGGRESSIVE. |
| 00:12:49 | HE IS MORE THE RECIPIENT OF
THIS. |
| 00:12:51 | BUT WE ARE SEEING A PUSH HERE.
THE DECISIONS WILL BE MADE BY |
| 00:12:56 | THE STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE, AND
THEY ARE UP FOR REELECTION NEXT |
| 00:12:59 | YEAR.
I THINK THE CHALLENGE NOW IS TO |
| 00:13:03 | BE MET BY THE CENTRAL COMMITTEE
RIGHT NOW AND WE WILL SEE HOW |
| 00:13:06 | THAT PLAYS OUT.
>> THOMAS SUDDES IS A PROFESSOR |
| 00:13:11 | OF JOURNALISM AT OHIO UNIVERSITY
IN ATHENS AND A MEMBER OF THE |
| 00:13:12 | EDITORIAL BOARD OF THE CLEVELAND
PLAIN DEALER, AND A FORMER |
| 00:13:14 | STATEHOUSE REPORTER.
HE SAYS HE WAS SHOCKED THE FEUD |
| 00:13:15 | WAS PLAYING OUT SO PUBLICLY.
>> USUALLY THE REPUBLICANS ARE |
| 00:13:19 | THE PARTY OF "LET'S KEEP THE
FAMILY SECRETS FOR THE |
| 00:13:21 | CHAIRMANSHIP."
I WAS SURPRISED MYSELF THIS |
| 00:13:27 | BECAME PUBLIC.
ESPECIALLY NOW IN THE WAKE OF |
| 00:13:31 | WHAT ONE WOULD PORTRAY AS A
SERIOUS DEFEAT OF THE GOVERNOR |
| 00:13:36 | ON SENATE BILL 5 AND UNRESOLVED
DISCUSSIONS ON CONGRESSIONAL |
| 00:13:39 | REDISTRICTING AND ALL MANNER OF
OTHER THINGS. |
| 00:13:42 | IT IS SURPRISING.
IS THIS A SECRET THE GOVERNOR |
| 00:13:46 | HAS WANTED A CHANGE IN THE
CHAIRMANSHIP. |
| 00:13:47 | -- IT IS NO SECRET.
BUT THE TIMING -- UNLESS IT, AS |
| 00:13:58 | A SUSPECT, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE
CENTRAL COMMITTEE FILINGS THE |
| 00:14:01 | OTHER DAY.
>> YOU THINK THIS WILL COME DOWN |
| 00:14:03 | TO THE CENTRAL COMMITTEE LEVEL?
>> I THINK LEGALLY, IT HAS TO |
| 00:14:07 | COME DOWN TO THE CENTRAL
COMMITTEE CHOOSES THE CHAIR. |
| 00:14:10 | ÑiWHAT HAPPENS?
I THINK YOU'RE PICKING YOUR |
| 00:14:13 | CANDIDATES TO RUN FOR THE
CENTRAL COMMITTEE WOULD BE A KEY |
| 00:14:16 | FACTOR OF HOW YOU GET THE
OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION FOR THE |
| 00:14:19 | CHAIRMANSHIP.
>> BOTH BECK AND SUDDES AGREE |
| 00:14:22 | THAT FOR MOST VOTERS -- EVEN
REPUBLICAN VOTERS -- THIS IS |
| 00:14:23 | INSIDE BASEBALL. BUT BECK SAYS
FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOTICING AND |
| 00:14:25 | WHO DO CARE, IT'S NOT A GOOD
IMAGE. |
| 00:14:27 | >> IT PLAYS IN A VERY NEGATIVE
WAY, I THINK, TO THE |
| 00:14:34 | POLARIZATION WE SEE IN POLITICS
TODAY. |
| 00:14:36 | ONE RESPONSE MIGHT BE, THERE
THEY GO AGAIN. |
| 00:14:40 | THEY CAN NOW GET ALONG WITH EACH
OTHER, EVEN WITHIN THE PARTY. |
| 00:14:44 | I THINK THERE MAY BE THAT
QUESTION ALONG THE LINES OF SOME |
| 00:14:51 | PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC WHO ARE
PAYING MINIMAL ATTENTION TO |
| 00:14:55 | THIS.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE DO NOT CARE. |
| 00:14:57 | IT WILL GO AWAY.
ON THE OTHER HAND, FOR OHIO |
| 00:15:02 | POLITICS, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
ORGANIZATIONS, THE DEMOCRATIC |
| 00:15:09 | PARTY ORGANIZATIONS ARE
IMPORTANT. |
| 00:15:10 | THEY HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES.
THEY CAN DEPLOY THOSE RESOURCES. |
| 00:15:15 | HAVE ELECTION CAMPAIGNS AND PLAY
AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN 2012 AND |
| 00:15:20 | BEYOND THAT.
OF COURSE, I THINK WHAT SPEAKER |
| 00:15:23 | BATCHELDER AND GOV. KASICH ARE
TRYING TO DO IS PUT SOMEONE IN |
| 00:15:31 | FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THEY
ARE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH, I DO |
| 00:15:35 | NOT KNOW FOR WHAT REASON.
>> SUDDES SAYS THIS BATTLE IS |
| 00:15:39 | JUST ONE OF MANY SKIRMISHES
HAPPENING IN OHIO POLITICS THAT |
| 00:15:41 | VOTERS ARE HAVING TO KEEP UP
WITH, AND HE THINKS MANY MIGHT |
| 00:15:44 | BE CHECKING OUT.
>> WE ARE ASKING A LOT OF THE |
| 00:15:52 | VOTERS TO BEGIN WITH.
WILL WILL LAST TWO PRIMARIES |
| 00:15:55 | NEXT YEAR.
WE HAVE MANY OHIOANS DID NOT |
| 00:16:01 | KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AS
FAR AS REDISTRICTING. |
| 00:16:04 | NOW WE HAVE A CONTEST THAT WILL
DETERMINE THE DIRECTION OF THE |
| 00:16:07 | REPUBLICAN PARTY GOING INTO A
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. |
| 00:16:08 | IT IS QUITE A LOT FOR THE VOTER,
HOWEVER WELL INFORMED HE OR SHE |
| 00:16:14 | IS.
THAT IS WHAT PUZZLES ME ABOUT |
| 00:16:17 | THE TIMING.
OVERLOADING WITH INFORMATION. |
| 00:16:21 | WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WHAT
SHOULD BE DONE. |
| 00:16:24 | >> THIS SKIRMISH IS HAPPENING
WITHIN THE PARTY. |
| 00:16:27 | PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING ALONG
WITH THAN THE PARTI. |
| 00:16:31 | >> I AM NOT SURE THE ORDINARY OR
REGULAR JOHN OR MARY CITIZEN |
| 00:16:37 | VOTER CARES THAT MUCH.
MAYBE THEY SHOULD. |
| 00:16:39 | I THINK THEY ARE MORE CONCERNED
ABOUT THE OVERALL ECONOMY, |
| 00:16:42 | JOBS, THE PERFORMANCE OF STATE
GOVERNMENT. |
| 00:16:44 | TO A REPUBLICAN COMMITTED
VOTERS, THE RANK AND FILE |
| 00:16:52 | PEOPLE DID YOU GO OUT AND
EVERYTHING ELSE, IT CREATES A |
| 00:16:56 | MORALE PROBLEM INTERNALLY, WHICH
I DO NOT KNOW THAT WILL. |
| 00:17:00 | THAT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC FOR
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN OR |
| 00:17:02 | REPUBLICAN NOMINEE NEXT YEAR.
>> ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE |
| 00:17:05 | AISLE, DEMOCRATS ARE ENJOYING A
BIG WIN, BUT IT MAY NOT |
| 00:17:09 | TRANSLATE TO VICTORIES ON BALLOT
ISSUES. |
| 00:17:12 | >> IT IS DIFFICULT TO SAID.
ALTHOUGH OHIO IS A CLOSELY- |
| 00:17:18 | DIVIDED STATE.
WE'RE VERY COMPETITIVE. |
| 00:17:25 | I THINK REPUBLICANS -- DEMOCRATS
RATHER ARE UNDERSTANDABLY |
| 00:17:31 | BILLING ENTHUSIASM OVER THERE
SENATE BILL 5 A FIGHT. |
| 00:17:35 | THEY HAD A SUBSTANTIAL TURNOUT.
A BIG DEMOCRATIC TURNOUT |
| 00:17:44 | GENERALLY IS A GOOD THING FOR
DEMOCRATS ON THEIR CANDIDATE |
| 00:17:47 | RACES IN 2012.
>> COULD NOT BACKFIRE AS WELL IN |
| 00:17:51 | THE SENSE THAT COULD VOTERS NOT
GET SICK OF THIS AND SAY, THIS |
| 00:17:56 | IS WHAT WE HAVE LAWMAKERS THERE?
>> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. |
| 00:18:01 | PART OF THE REASON WE HAVE THE
YOU CAN ARGUE THAT WE'RE HAVING |
| 00:18:15 | THESE THINGS DECIDED BY
REFERENDUM BECAUSE THE |
| 00:18:17 | LEGISLATORS ARE ADVOCATING -- AT
-- ABDICATING THEIR ABILITY TO |
| 00:18:23 | MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS.
ON THE OTHER HAND, THE PLEDGE |
| 00:18:29 | THAT LEGISLATORS OFTEN MAKE,
THEY WANT TO GO TO COLUMBUS, |
| 00:18:32 | MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS.
I ARGUE THEY WANT TO DO ANYTHING |
| 00:18:36 | BUT MAKE TOUGH DECISION.
>> BECK SAYS FEARS OF OVERKILL |
| 00:18:41 | ON THE BALLOT MAY BE A REAL
CONCERN, BUT ADDS THAT VOTERS |
| 00:18:43 | LIKE THE FEELING OF BEING IN
CONTROL OF THE PROCESS. |
| 00:18:44 | >> THERE IS A MASTER PLANNER
PUTTING THESE THINGS ON THE |
| 00:18:53 | BALLOT.
1 WAS -- ONE DOES HAVE TO WORRY |
| 00:18:57 | IS THE MASTER PLANNER DOING IT?
THERE IS THAT QUESTION. |
| 00:19:00 | ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK
AMERICANS ARE VERY WEATHERED -- |
| 00:19:06 | VERY WEDDED TO THE IDEA OF
DIRECT DEMOCRACY. |
| 00:19:11 | TRIED TO TAKE IT AWAY.
PEOPLE WILL REACT NEGATIVELY TO |
| 00:19:17 | A.
IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE |
| 00:19:18 | BROADER QUESTION, REPRESENTATIVE
DEMOCRACY, WHERE WE ELECT PEOPLE |
| 00:19:24 | TO MAKE POLICY DECISIONS FOR US
AND DIRECT DEMOCRACY WHERE WE |
| 00:19:29 | USE VOTERS TO MAKE DECISIONS
OURSELVES -- REPRESENTATIVE |
| 00:19:33 | DEMOCRACY IN THIS COUNTRY IS IN
CRISIS RIGHT NOW. |
| 00:19:36 | YOU ONLY HAVE TO LOOK AT EUROPE
WHERE THEY HAVE MOVED AWAY FROM |
| 00:19:41 | REPRESENTATIVE INSTITUTIONS AND
PUT TECHNOCRATS IN CHARGE IN |
| 00:19:46 | ITALY, GREECE, MAY BE OTHER
COUNTRIES AS WELL TO SOLVE THE |
| 00:19:50 | EURO CRISIS THERE.
CONGRESS IS AT ITS LOW POINT IN |
| 00:19:56 | TERMS OF PUBLIC APPROVAL.
STATE LEGISLATORS CANNOT BE MUCH |
| 00:20:02 | HIGHER THAN THAT RUN THE
COUNTRY. |
| 00:20:03 | TO VOTE DOWN SENATE BILL 5 FOR
INSTANCE IS A SIGNIFICANT |
| 00:20:08 | REBUKE OF WHAT THE LEGISLATURE
WOULD HAVE SEEN AS ONE OF ITS |
| 00:20:13 | MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS EARLIER IN
THE YEAR. |
| 00:20:18 | REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY IS
BEING CHALLENGED. |
| 00:20:21 | AS A RESULT OF THAT, MANY OHIO
ANS MIGHT SAY, WE CAN MAKE THESE |
| 00:20:31 | DECISIONS ON THE BALLOT
OURSELVES. |
| 00:20:32 | >> AND BOTH SUDDES AND BECK
AGREE THAT OHIO WILL AGAIN BE |
| 00:20:35 | BIG IN THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE
NEXT YEAR, WITH BOTH NATIONAL |
| 00:20:37 | PARTIES WANTING TO WIN OHIO.
BECK SAYS WHAT'S HAPPENING |
| 00:20:38 | WITHIN THE STATE PARTIES MAY NOT
PLAY A BIG ROLE IN THE |
| 00:20:39 | PRESIDENTIAL CONTEST, EXCEPT
WITH THE GROUND GAME THAT BOTH |
| 00:20:42 | HAVE DEVELOPED THROUGH THEIR
LOCAL CAMPAIGNING AND SIGNATURE |
| 00:20:45 | GATHERING.
AND SUDDES SAYS BOTHñr STATE |
| 00:20:49 | PARTIES WILL LIKELY FIND
THEMSELVES IN THE WORK OF A LOT |
| 00:20:50 | OF STATE AND NATIONAL POLITICAL
PUNDITS, BECAUSE HE SAYS HE |
| 00:20:54 | THINKS THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF
MATERIAL THAT STATE POLITICIANS |
| 00:20:58 | WILL BE GIVING THEM TO WRITE
AND TALK ABOUT. |
| 00:21:00 | HUNDREDS GATHERED THIS WEEK AT A
HOTEL IN DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS FOR |
| 00:21:03 | A CONFERENCE WE PREVIEWED ON
THIS SHOW A FEW WEEKS AGO. |
| 00:21:05 | "ACROSS THE SPECTRUM: THE
FUTURE OF OHIO AND THE PATH TO |
| 00:21:08 | PROSPERITY" BROUGHT IN
POLITICAL OBSERVERS, LOBBYISTS |
| 00:21:11 | AND LAWMAKERS -- FORMER AND
CURRENT, THOUGH NOT AS MANY |
| 00:21:14 | INCUMBENTS AS THE ORGANIZERS HAD
HOPED. |
| 00:21:16 | THE CONFERENCE HOPED TO BRING
TOGETHER PEOPLE WITH VERY |
| 00:21:22 | DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES TO TALK
ABOUT THE TOUGHEST ISSUES OUT |
| 00:21:28 | THERE GOVERNMENT SPENDING,
STATE AND LOCAL TAXES, |
| 00:21:29 | CONSOLIDATING GOVERNMENT,
PENSION REFORM AND HEALTH CARE |
| 00:21:31 | WITH THE GOAL OF FINDING COMMON
GROUND TO PUSH FORWARD TOWARD |
| 00:21:38 | SOLUTIONS.
BE HEADLINING AND OF THE DAY WAS |
| 00:21:42 | A DUEL OF SORTS BETWEEN TWO
LEGENDARY NAMES IN THE NATIONAL |
| 00:21:47 | ECONOMIC SPHERE -- A ECONOMIST
ARTHUR LAFFER AND FORMER CLINTON |
| 00:21:52 | WHITE HOUSE BUDGET DIRECTOR
ALICE RIVLIN, WHO ADVISED THE |
| 00:21:57 | CONGRESSIONAL SUPER COMMITTEE
THAT DEADLOCKED OVER A BUDGET |
| 00:22:01 | CUTTING DEAL.
THE TWO DEBATED MANY TOPICS, BUT |
| 00:22:04 | AT THE CLOSE OF THE RECESSION,
THE TWO WERE ASKED TO COME UP |
| 00:22:07 | WITH ONE OPINION THEY WISH THEY
COULD CONVINCE THE OTHER TO |
| 00:22:11 | SHARE.
>> I THINK THE THINGS THAT ARE |
| 00:22:14 | THIRD SAYS THAT I DISAGREE WITH
THE MOST ASKED TO DO WITH THE |
| 00:22:19 | EFFECT OF GOVERNMENT SPENDING.
I BELIEVE I AM RESPONSIBLE |
| 00:22:24 | FISCAL POLICY AND IN GOVERNMENT
-- AND GOVERNMENT HAS TO PAY ITS |
| 00:22:30 | BILLS, WHENEVER THEY ARE.
BUT I BELIEVE THAT MUCH |
| 00:22:36 | GOVERNMENT SPENDING DOES A GREAT
DEAL OF GOOD IF IT IS WELL |
| 00:22:40 | MANAGED, AND THE STIMULUS AT THE
RIGHT MOMENT, AND THE RIGHT |
| 00:22:49 | MOMENT IS WHEN THE ECONOMY IS IN
FREEFALL AND THERE IS NO PRIVATE |
| 00:22:57 | SPENDING.
YOU'RE NOT DIMINISHING PRIVATE |
| 00:23:00 | SPENDING.
GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO PUT MONEY IN |
| 00:23:04 | PEOPLE'S POCKETS SO THAT THEY
ARE NOT DESTROYED BY THE |
| 00:23:12 | RECESSION AND THEY CAN SPEND IT
AND CREATE DEMAND. |
| 00:23:14 | >> SHE TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY
MOUTH. |
| 00:23:19 | I WANTED TO CONVINCE HER THE
OTHER WAY. |
| 00:23:22 | WHENEVER PEOPLE MAKE DECISIONS
-- POLITICIANS MAKE DECISIONS -- |
| 00:23:26 | THEY ARE EITHER PANICKED OR
DRUG. |
| 00:23:32 | THE CONSEQUENCES ARE RARELY
ATTRACTIVE. |
| 00:23:35 | I REMEMBER CLINTON BECAME DOWN
FROM THE MOUNTAIN WITH THE |
| 00:23:42 | TABLOIDS, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER,
THE JOB EVALUATION, I WATCHED |
| 00:23:47 | THE DECISIONS WHEN THEY COLLUDED
ON WATERGATE. |
| 00:23:52 | I WATCHED INFLATION NOW.
I WAS RIGHT THERE. |
| 00:23:58 | YOU KNOW, I WATCHED WHEN JIMMY
CARTER DID THE ENERGY PLAN. |
| 00:24:08 | I WOULD SAY HE MUST HAVE A SIX-
MONTH DELAY FUSE. |
| 00:24:14 | THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO
SAY ON THAT IS, I WOULD LOVE TO |
| 00:24:19 | SEE POLITICIANS PAID ON
COMMISSION. |
| 00:24:22 | [LAUGHTER]
I THINK THEY SHOULD BE JUST LIKE |
| 00:24:28 | EXECUTIVES.
GIVE THEM A SHADOW PORTFOLIO OF |
| 00:24:31 | $5 MILLION.
KEEP ALL CAPITAL GAINS TAX FREE. |
| 00:24:36 | IN THEIR PERSONALLY LIABLE FOR
ALL THE CAPITAL LOSSES. |
| 00:24:39 | IF THEY HAD TO BEAR THE
CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR OWN |
| 00:24:41 | ACTIONS, THEY WOULD NOT VOTE THE
WAY THEY DO. |
| 00:24:43 | NEED TO GET THEM TO GET IN THE
GAME AND MAKE GOOD DECISIONS IN |
| 00:24:48 | MY VIEW.
>> WE HOPE TO BRING YOU MORE |
| 00:24:50 | HIGHLIGHTS ON A LATER SHOW.
THAT IS IT FOR THIS WEEK. |
| 00:24:55 | FROM MY COLLEAGUES AT OHIO
PUBLIC RADIO AND TELEVISION, |
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>> THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE |
| 00:25:46 | BIGGEST YEARS OF OHIO POLITICS
IN RECENT HISTORY. |
| 00:25:50 | OUR RECORDS STATE BUDGET DEFICIT
RESOLVE WITHOUT A TAX INCREASE. |
| 00:25:54 | A CONTROVERSIAL STATE LAW
REPEALED. |
| 00:25:56 | AND AT THE END OF THE YEAR,
THERE STILL NUMB OUT OF THE |
| 00:25:59 | CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS.
NEXT YEAR PROMISES TO BE ANOTHER |
| 00:26:02 | BIG YEAR AND STATE AND NATIONAL
POLITICS AS WELL. |
| 00:26:04 | WE WILL START OUR LOOK FORWARD
AND BACK WITH A TALK WITH THE |
| 00:26:08 | LEADERS OF THE OHIO SENATE, NEXT
TIME ON "IS STABLE I A." |
| 00:26:10 | >> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
BROADCAST OF "THE STATE OF OHIO" |
| 00:26:20 | COMES FROM THE LAW OFFICES OF --
HELPING INDIVIDUALS AND |
| 00:26:25 | BUSINESSES SOLVE COMPLEX LEGAL
PROBLEMS ACROSS THE OHIO AND |
| 00:26:31 | AROUND THE WORLD.
AND FROM THE HIGHER EDUCATION |
| 00:26:33 | ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING 131,000
TEACHERS, SUPPORT PROFESSIONALS |
| 00:26:39 | , AND HIGHER EDUCATION FACULTY
WERE WORKING FOR GREAT PUBLIC |
| 00:26:42 | SCHOOLS FOR EVERY JOB.
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE STATE |
| 00:26:46 | OF OHIO IS MADE POSSIBLE BY
ETECH OHIO. |
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