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KAREN: A STATE LAWMAKER WANTS
00:00:31TO GET RID OF AN IMPORTANT BUT
SOMETIMES CONTROVERSIAL PART OF
00:00:34THE JUSTICE SYSTEM.
A GROUP OF PROPOSED GUN LAWS
00:00:37UNDER DEBATE AT THE STATEHOUSE.
AND WITH ELDER ABUSE HITTING
00:00:40THOUSANDS OF OHIOANS EACH YEAR,
WHAT IS THE STATE DOING ABOUT
00:00:43IT?
WE'LL HEAR FROM THE ATTORNEY
00:00:46GENERAL.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:00:47OHIO."
KAREN: A DEMOCRATIC STATE
00:00:59SENATOR SAYS RECENT
POLICE-INVOLVED SHOOTINGS HAS
00:01:04LED HER TO ASK FOR A CHANGE IN
THE JUST TIS SYSTEM, THE GRAND
00:01:09JURY PROCESS.
BUT THE OHIO SUPREME COURT IS
00:01:12POWERLESS TO DO ANYTHING BIT.
SENATOR SANDRA WILLIAMS SAYS
00:01:15THE CLOSED GRAND JURY PROCESS,
WHICH HEARS TESTIMONY IN SECRET
00:01:18TO DETERMINE IF CHARGES WILL BE
FILED BY PROSECUTORS, HAS BEEN
00:01:22A PROBLEM IN HIGH-PROFILE
CASES.
00:01:24>> CASE AFTER CASE, WHEN IT
COMES TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
00:01:27JUSTICE REPORT WITH THE CITY OF
CLEVELAND, THE CASE IN
00:01:31BEAVERCREEK, OHIO, AND MANY
OTHER CASES ACROSS THE STATE.
00:01:34AND IT CREATED RIOTS.
AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE
00:01:37CONCERNS THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE.
KAREN: WILLIAMS WROTE TO THE
00:01:40OHIO SUPREME COURT ASKING THE
JUSTICES TO ABOLISH THE GRAND
00:01:43JURY PROCESS, REPLACING IT WITH
A PRELIMINARY HEARING PROCESS,
00:01:47OR AT LEAST ALLOWING TESTIMONY
TO BE PUBLIC RECORD.
00:01:49WILLIAMS SAYS A MORE OPEN
PROCESS WOULD BUILD PUBLIC
00:01:53TRUST, ESPECIALLY IN
CONTROVERSIAL CASES.
00:01:55BUT CHIEF JUSTICE MAUREEN
O'CONNOR SAID IN A LETTER TO
00:01:58WILLIAMS THAT CHANGING THE
PROCESS WOULD REQUIRE AMENDING
00:02:01THE OHIO CONSTITUTION, WHICH
GUARANTEES DEFENDANTS IN
00:02:04SERIOUS CRIMINAL CASES A RIGHT
TO A GRAND JURY REVIEW.
00:02:07AND SUPPORTERS OF THE GRAND
JURY PROCESS SAY IT CAN
00:02:10ENCOURAGE PLEA DEALS, AND CAN
PROTECT DEFENDANTS FROM
00:02:15OVERZEALOUS PROSECUTION.
TUESDAY WAS NOT VERY BUSY AT
00:02:18POLLING PLACES AROUND OHIO, BUT
IT WAS A GOOD PRIMARY FOR MOST
00:02:22SCHOOLS AND LIBRARIES.
VOTER TURNOUT IN TUESDAY'S
00:02:25PRIMARY WAS LOW, BUT VOTERS
PASSED 84% OF THE SCHOOL LEVIES
00:02:29ON BALLOTS ACROSS THE STATE.
THE TOTAL OF 101 MONEY
00:02:32QUESTIONS ON TUESDAY'S BALLOT
WAS THE FEWEST NUMBER OF SCHOOL
00:02:35LEVIES ON A PRIMARY BALLOT IN
THE PAST DECADE.
00:02:38AND ALL 12 LIBRARY LEVIES ON
THE STATEWIDE BALLOT ALSO WERE
00:02:43APPROVED.
ATHENS COUNTY COULD SOON BECOME
00:02:46THE FRACKING WASTE CAPITAL OF
OHIO.
00:02:47THE CITY OF ATHENS RECEIVED THE
THIRD MOST FRACKING WASTE IN
00:02:52THE STATE LAST YEAR.
AND THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF
00:02:54NATURAL RESOURCES APPROVED
ANOTHER INJECTION WELL FOR THE
00:02:57COUNTY IN MARCH, WHICH COULD
PROPEL ATHENS INTO THE TOP
00:03:00SPOT.
BUT GROUPS OF LOCAL BUSINESS
00:03:02OWNERS AND SOME DEMOCRATIC
STATE LAWMAKERS HAVE SAID
00:03:05ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
BRADLEY PARKS HAS MORE.
00:03:09>> FRACKING RATES, OTHERWISE
KNOWN AS BRIAN, CONTAINS TOXIC
00:03:13CHEMICALS USED IN DRILLING.
EARTHQUAKES AND SPILLS RELATED
00:03:17TO INJECTION ACTIVITY IN OHIO
AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY, HAVE
00:03:20CALLED THE SAFETY OF THIS
METHOD INTO QUESTION.
00:03:23THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL
RESOURCES SAYS THAT INJECTION
00:03:25IS THE SAFEST METHOD FOR
DISPOSAL OF BRIAN.
00:03:28BUT MANY IN ATHENS AND AT THE
STATEHOUSE SAY THAT SAFEST DOES
00:03:33NOT MEAN THAT INJECTION IS
SAFE.
00:03:35CHRISTINE HUGHES OWNS THE
VILLAGE BAKERY AND A PIZZA REA
00:03:40IN ATHENS.
>> THEY DON'T HAVE A SAFE WAY
00:03:42TO DISPOSE OF THIS TOXIC WASTE.
AND BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A
00:03:45SAFER WAY TO DO IT, I DON'T
THINK THAT SHOULD GIVE THEM THE
00:03:47GO-AHEAD TO DO IT.
YOU KNOW?
00:03:48I MEAN, I DON'T GET TO USE THAT
LOGIC IN MY BUSINESS.
00:03:52WHY IS THE OIL AND GAS
INTRODUCE ALLOWED TO SAY IT'S
00:03:56THE BEST WE CAN DO.
OK, THAT'S FINE.
00:03:58COMMUNITIES DON'T WANT IT.
YOU KNOW, FARMERS DON'T WANT IT
00:04:01NEXT TO THEIR FARMS, THEIR
SUSTAINABLE FARMS.
00:04:03>> SENATORS MICHAEL SKINDELL
AND TARVARIS PROPOSED A BILL TO
00:04:09BAN BRINE IN OHIO.
>> WHAT WE'RE FINDING OUT IS
00:04:13THAT THERE'S MORE AND MORE
EVIDENCE OF THESE FRACKING
00:04:18WELLS ACROSS THE COUNTRY
LEAKING INTO THE DRINKING WATER
00:04:21SUPPLIES OF COMMUNITIES.
>> PUBLIC OUTCRY HAS BEEN
00:04:23ESPECIALLY LOUD IN ATHENS.
WASTE WATER INJECTION HAS BEGUN
00:04:27TO INFECT THE COUNTY'S LOCAL
FOOD MOVEMENT, INCLUDING THE
00:04:30SHUTDOWN OF STARLINE ORGANICS.
OHIO HAS MORE THAN 200
00:04:35INJECTION WELLS AND BRINGS IN
OUT-OF-STATE WASTE BY THE TRUCK
00:04:38FULL.
THE MEAL INITIATIVE ARE BIG
00:04:43TOURIST DRAWS AND TRACKING
WASTE INJECTION THREATENS THAT
00:04:46SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE
LOCAL ECONOMY.
00:04:48>> WE'RE CREATING AN ECONOMY
THAT IS HEALTHY FOR US AND, YOU
00:04:51KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO
DO.
00:04:53AND TO HAVE ANOTHER INDUSTRY BE
ABLE TO COME IN AND TOTALLY
00:04:57CHANGE THAT AND MAKE IT AN
INDUSTRIAL ZONE AND MAKE ATHENS
00:05:01COUNTY KNOWN AS THE FRACK WASTE
DUMP OF OHIO AND WEST VIRGINIA
00:05:06AND PENNSYLVANIA, THAT'S PRETTY
BAD FOR OUR ECONOMY.
00:05:08>> OF COURSE, THERE ARE THOSE
OPPOSED TO THE INJECTION BAN.
00:05:11ONE ATHENS FARMER WITH WELLS ON
HIS PROPERTY TOLD ME HE'D BEEN
00:05:18IN ATHENS WHEN BRINE WAS DUMPED
IN GRAVEL PITS.
00:05:21THE FARMER SAID A BAN ON
INJECTION COULD LEAD SOME TO
00:05:25USE LESS SAFE ALTERNATIVES.
HE REQUESTED ANONYMITY FOR FEAR
00:05:30OF BACKLASH.
>> THERE'S' A COST BENEFIT THAT
00:05:33YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT.
WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT?
00:05:36GENERATING REVENUE THAT FREES
INJECTION WELLS AND THE BRINE
00:05:40THAT'S COMING IN FROM OTHER
STATES, THEY'RE PAYING A FEE TO
00:05:44DISPOSE OF THEIR BRINE IN THE
STATE OF OHIO VERSUS THE HEALTH
00:05:48AND SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE
RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTIES
00:05:51ACCEPTING IT.
>> WHEN ANOTHER WELL WAS
00:05:54APPROVED IN MARCH, MANY
RESIDENTS DEMANDED A PUBLIC
00:05:57HEARING.
BUT THE DEPARTMENT DID NOT
00:05:58GRANT ONE.
A GEOLOGIST AND MANAGER OF
00:06:03UNDERGROUND INJECTION CONTROL
AT ODNR SAID COMMENTS FOR THE
00:06:07WELL IN ATHENS DID NOT JUSTIFY
A HEARING.
00:06:09>> WE ADDRESSED, YOU KNOW, WHAT
WE FELT WERE ALL OF THE MAIN
00:06:12ISSUES IN -- ON OUR WEBSITE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF DIDN'T
00:06:18DETERMINE THAT THE COMMENTS
WERE A THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH
00:06:21OR SAFETY, SO THERE WAS NO
HEARING SCHEDULED.
00:06:23>> IF THEY'RE SAYING THEY WANT
MORE INFORMATION, THEY WANT AT
00:06:27LEAST TO HAVE A HEARING, WHY
WOULDN'T WE HAVE A HEARING SO
00:06:30THAT THE PUBLIC CAN WEIGH IN,
CAN GET THE INFORMATION AND
00:06:34THEN MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER
THIS IS SOMETHING THEIR
00:06:37COMMUNITY WANTS OR NOT?
>> HOWEVER, OHIO LAW GRANTS THE
00:06:41STATE SUPREME AUTHORITY OVER
OIL AND GAS DRILLING AND
00:06:44RELATED ACTIVITIES.
HUGHES SAID PEOPLE ARE
00:06:47BEGINNING TO FEEL POWERLESS.
>> THEY KNOW THEY'RE WRONG.
00:06:50THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE RIGHT.
THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE DUMPING
00:06:53TOXIC WASTE IN COMMUNITIES THAT
DON'T WANT IT.
00:06:55THAT'S NOT ADDING ANYTHING TO
OUR ECONOMY.
00:06:57IT'S DEGRADING OUR QUALITY OF
LIFE.
00:07:00AND IF THEY HAD TO FACE THE
TRUTH, THEY CERTAINLY COULDN'T
00:07:03DEFEND THEMSELVES.
KAREN: BRADLEY PARKS WAS A
00:07:06FELLOW IN THE E.W. SWIPS SCHOOL
OF JOURNALISM.
00:07:09HE IS NOW REPORTING FOR THE
"ZANESVILLE TIMES RECORDER."
00:07:13THIS WEEK, A BUNDLE OF PROPOSED
CHANGES TO OHIO'S GUN LAWS CAME
00:07:16BEFORE LAWMAKERS ON AN OHIO
HOUSE COMMITTEE.
00:07:20ONE BILL WOULD POTENTIALLY
ALLOW CONCEALED WEAPONS IN
00:07:22PLACES OF WORSHIP, DAYCARES AND
COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES.
00:07:26RON MAAG TOLD OUR ANDY CHOW
THAT HIS BILL CLEANS UP MANY OF
00:07:31THE THINGS THAT HE THINKS WERE
DONE WRONG WHEN CONCEALED CARRY
00:07:34WAS FIRST PASSED YEARS AGO.
MAAG GIVES THIS SITUATION OOSE
00:07:38AN EXAMPLE.
>> I'M A CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT
00:07:41HOLDER.
I DROP MY CHILD OFF.
00:07:42THAT'S BELL.
-- THAT'S LEGAL.
00:07:45WHEN I GOT HOME AND FOUND OUT
THEY DIDN'T TAKE THEIR LUNCH,
00:07:48MY WIFE GOES WITH ME.
I DROP HER OFF.
00:07:50SHE'S NOT CARRYING A GUN.
SHE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING.
00:07:53BUT I AM.
AND NOW THAT'S ILLEGAL.
00:07:56SO ONLY DROPPING OR PICKING UP
YOUR CHILD.
00:07:59SO IT'S CLEANING UP SOME THINGS
LIKE THAT.
00:08:01>> WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO HAVE
SUCH AN EFFORT?
00:08:03>> WELL, BECAUSE PEOPLE GO
AROUND EVERY DAY AND THEY
00:08:08UNINTENTIONALLY COULD BE
COMMITTING A CRIME.
00:08:10WHICH MAY MAKE THEM NOT BE ABLE
TO CARRY A GUN IN THE FUTURE.
00:08:16>> AND SO, WHAT -- WHERE ARE
SOME OTHER PLACES THAT THIS
00:08:20BILL WOULD TAKE EFFECT?
SO NOT JUST IN THAT SCHOOL
00:08:24SITUATION, BUT WHAT ARE SOME
OTHER SITUATIONS?
00:08:27>> WELL, IN CHURCHES, DAYCARE,
UNSECURED AREAS OF A POLICE OR
00:08:33HIGHWAY.
UNSECURED AREAS OF GOVERNMENT
00:08:36BUILDINGS.
>> HOW DO YOU WANT THE REST OF
00:08:39THE MEMBERS IN THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES TO ADDRESS THIS
00:08:44ISSUE?
BECAUSE THIS HAS COME UP IN THE
00:08:45PAST, HAS IT NOT, AND IT HASN'T
GONE THROUGH.
00:08:48>> YEAH, IT CALM UP AND DID NOT
GET THROUGH.
00:08:52BUT I'M VERY HOPEFUL THAT THIS
TIME IT WILL.
00:08:55>> WHAT'S YOUR PITCH TO THEM?
WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT TO DO
00:08:58THIS?
>> WELL, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE
00:08:59CRIMINAL IS GOING TO CARRY A
GUN NO MATTER WHAT.
00:09:02AND WHY SHOULD A PERSON HAVE TO
GIVE UP ANY OF THEIR SECOND
00:09:04AMENDMENT RIGHTS JUST BECAUSE
THEY'RE GOING AROUND THEIR
00:09:09BUSINESS AND MAYBE GOING TO A
PLACE LIKE A -- LIKE A STATE
00:09:14BUILDING OR A POLICE STATION?
UNLESS IT'S A SECURED AREA, WHY
00:09:20NOT?
ROETHLISBERGER REPUBLICAN RON
00:09:23HOOD OF ASHVILLE IS THE SPONSOR
OF ANOTHER BILL FOR THAT
00:09:26COMMITTEE.
HE SAYS IT BASICALLY ALLOWS THE
00:09:29SAME RULES FOR CONCEALED CARRY
AS ARE ALLOWED FOR CARRYING
00:09:33WEAPONS OPENLY IN OHIO.
>> IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHO.
00:09:35IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHERE --
WHERE CAN YOU CARRY, BUT
00:09:39ANYWHERE WHERE YOU ALREADY HAVE
THE RIGHT TO CARRY OPEN, YOU
00:09:43CAN SIMPLY NOW PUT A COAT ON
AND CARRY CONCEALED.
00:09:46SO IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHO CAN
CARRY.
00:09:49IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHERE CAN YOU
CARRY.
00:09:51IT JUST CHANGES WHETHER YOU CAN
HAVE A COAT ON OR NOT.
00:09:54AND THAT SIMPLY IS WHAT THE
BILL DOES OOFMENTS DOES IT
00:09:59CHANGE ANYTHING TO DO WITH
TRAINING OR GETTING A LICENSE?
00:10:02>> NO.
NOTHING CHANGES ON GETTING A
00:10:04LICENSE.
IT DOESN'T TOUCH THE LICENSING
00:10:06PROVISION WHATSOEVER.
RIGHT NOW YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED
00:10:10TO GET A LICENSE IN OHIO TO
CARRY OPENLY.
00:10:13YOU ONLY ARE REQUIRED TO GET A
LICENSE TO CARRY CONCEALED.
00:10:17SO ALL THIS BILL DOES IS SAY
WHATEVER YOU'RE ALLOWED TO OPEN
00:10:22CARRY WITHOUT A LICENSE, YOU'RE
NOW ALLOWED TO CARRY CONCEALED
00:10:26WITHOUT A LICENSE.
IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE PERMIT
00:10:29SYSTEM WHATSOEVER BECAUSE WE
STILL NEED RECIPROCITY WITH
00:10:32OTHER STATES THAT RECOGNIZE A
PERMIT SYSTEM.
00:10:35SO WE'RE REALLY DOING WHAT FIVE
OTHER STATES HAVE ALREADY DONE
00:10:40AND A COUPLE OTHER STATES
ALREADY HAVE A LIMITED
00:10:45CAPACITY.
>> SO WHEREVER YOU'RE ALLOWED
00:10:46TO OPEN CARRY RIGHT NOW, YOU
WOULD THEN BE ALLOWED TO CARRY
00:10:50CONCEALED, WHEREAS RIGHT NOW IF
YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CARRY
00:10:52CONCEALED, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO
TRAINING TO DO THAT?
00:10:54>> YOU WOULD HAVE TO -- WOULD
YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE
00:10:57PROCESS OF GETTING A PERMIT,
WHICH WOULD BE THE BACKGROUND
00:11:01CHECK, THE TRAINING, THE
GOVERNMENT-ISSUED PERMIT.
00:11:05SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET A
GOVERNMENT-ISSUED PERMIT IN
00:11:07ORDER TO CARRY CONCEALED.
BUT TO CARRY OPENLY, YOU DON'T
00:11:09HAVE TO DO ANY OF THAT.
IT'S ALREADY LEGAL IN OHIO FOR
00:11:12ANYONE WHO'S NOT PROHIBITED
FROM CARRYING TO CARRY IN OHIO
00:11:18OPENLY.
KAREN: BUT GUN CONTROL
00:11:20ADVOCATES ARE HORRIFIED.
JENNIFER THORNE IS EXECUTIVE
00:11:23DIRECTOR OF THE OHIO COALITION
AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE, AND SHE
00:11:25ALSO SPOKE WITH OUR ANDY CHOW.
>> I THINK THAT OUR ELECTED
00:11:29OFFICIALS COULD REALLY BE DOING
BETTER FOR OHIOANS BY FOCUSING
00:11:33ON COMMON SENSE REGULATIONS
THAT, SUCH AS BACKGROUND CHECKS
00:11:38ON ALL GUN SALES AND OTHER
PROVISIONS INSTEAD OF FOCUSING
00:11:43ON NORMALIZING THE PRESENCE OF
WEAPONS IN OUR SOCIETY.
00:11:46>> SPECIFICALLY THERE'S ONE
BILL FROM REPRESENTIVE RON MAAG
00:11:49THAT WOULD -- IT WOULD CHANGE
THE LAWS DEALING WITH NO, YOU
00:11:57KNOW, CONCEALED CARRY, IF I GO
TO A SCHOOL AND I HAVE A SCHOOL
00:12:00AND I GO IN AND EVERYTHING LIKE
THAT.
00:12:02WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT
TWEAKING THOSE LAWS WHEN IT
00:12:04COMES TO BEING ON SCHOOL
GROUNDS OR BEING ON PROPERTY
00:12:07THAT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR
CONCEALED CARRY?
00:12:10>> SURE.
SO ANY TIME THAT WE'RE LOOKING
00:12:12AT EXPANDING THE PRESENCE OF
HIDDEN WEAPONS IN OUR SOCIETY,
00:12:15THAT'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC
HEALTH RISK.
00:12:18WE DON'T WANT TO FURTHER
NORMALIZE THE PRESENCE OF
00:12:20DANGEROUS WEAPONS LIKE THIS IN
PUBLIC, CERTAINLY NOT IN OUR
00:12:24SCHOOL SAFETY ZONES OR ON
COLLEGE CAMPUSES.
00:12:27>> ONE ARGUMENT FROM
REPRESENTIVE MAAG WELL, PEOPLE
00:12:30WHO ARE GOING TO DO BAD THINGS
WITH GUNS ARE GOING TO DO IT
00:12:33ANYWAY.
WHAT'S YOUR COUNTER TO THAT?
00:12:35>> I WOULD SAY THAT EVERYONE'S
THAT'S CARRYING ONE OF THESE
00:12:38WEAPONS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD
GUY UP UNTIL THE MOMENT THAT
00:12:41THEY AREN'T, AND THAT HAVING TO
CONCEALED WEAPONS DOESN'T MAKE
00:12:45ANYONE SAFER.
>> THERE'S ANOTHER BILL FROM
00:12:48REPRESENTIVE HOOD THAT WOULD
REALLY DO A LOT TO LIFT A LOST
00:12:51OF THE TRAINING NEEDED TO HAVE
A CONCEALED CARRY LICENSE.
00:12:54WE'RE SEEING IT IN STATES, IT
ALREADY PASSED IN STATES LIKE
00:12:58KANSAS.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT
00:12:59BILL?
>> THE PROPOSAL TO ALLOW NO
00:13:05PERMIT CONCEALED CARRY IN OHIO
IS EXTREMELY IRRESPONSIBLE.
00:13:08THIS IS NOT GOING TO MAKE
ANYONE SAFER BY TAKING AWAY ANY
00:13:11OF THE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS OR
ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND CHECKS OR
00:13:15PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS TO
CARRY A DANGEROUS, HIDDEN
00:13:18LOADED WEAPON IN PUBLIC.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING
00:13:20ABOUT HERE.
KAREN: AND THORNE SAYS THERE'S
00:13:22AT LEAST ONE OTHER LOWER
PROFILE MEASURE THAT SHE'S
00:13:25WATCHING.
>> THERE IS A PROPOSAL THAT
00:13:27WOULD BAN FIREARM REGISTRIES IN
OHIO, WHICH WE CURRENTLY DON'T
00:13:32HAVE ON A STATEWIDE LEVEL.
AND ACTUALLY, HANDGUN
00:13:37REGISTRIES COMBINED WITH
BACKGROUND CHECKS ARE GREAT
00:13:41TOOLS TO FIGHT GUN VIOLENCE.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT
00:13:44BILL IN PARTICULAR IS REALLY
KIND OF A GIFT TO THE GUN
00:13:47LOBBY.
THEY LIKE TO REALLY INSPIRE A
00:13:50CULTURE OF FEAR, WHICH HELPS
THEM SELL MORE GUNS AND WHAT WE
00:13:53LIKE TO PROPOTE IS MORE OF A
CULTURE OF PEACE.
00:13:56KAREN: THIS IS NOT THE FIRST
TIME AROUND FOR SOME OF THESE
00:13:58MEASURES.
THESE BILLS ARE ALL SPONSORED
00:14:00BY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS,
BUT GUN-RELATED ISSUES CAN
00:14:03SOMETIMES STACK LAWMAKERS
AGAINST EACH OTHER BASED ON
00:14:06WHERE THEY LIVE, RURAL OR
URBAN, AS MUCH AS ON THEIR
00:14:08PARTY AFFILIATION.
SO IT IS UNCLEAR WHAT THE
00:14:11FUTURE IS FOR THESE BILLS.
THEY ARE NOW IN THE HOUSE STATE
00:14:15GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE.
THERE WERE MORE THAN 13,000
00:14:17REPORTS OF ABUSE, EXPLOITATION,
AND NEGLECT OF OHIOANS OVER THE
00:14:21AGE OF 60 IN THE LAST FISCAL
YEAR.
00:14:23AND WHILE EXPERTS SAY THAT'S
DOWN FROM NUMBERS IN PREVIOUS
00:14:27YEARS, THERE ARE THOSE WHO
POINT OUT THAT THOSE ARE JUST
00:14:30REPORTED INCIDENT AND SAY THE
REAL NUMBERS OF ELDERLY PEOPLE
00:14:32WHO ARE BEING PHYSICALLY,
EMOTIONALLY, FINANCIALLY AND/OR
00:14:36SEXUALLY ABUSED COULD TOP
1000,000 EACH YEAR.
00:14:40LAST WEEK, I TALKED WITH TWO
PEOPLE I MET IN JANUARY 2007,
00:14:44RAMONA WILSON AND DAVID
KESSLER.
00:14:46RAMONA HAD MARRIED A YOUNGER
MAN WHO ENDED UP STEALING
00:14:49$50,000 FROM HER.
SHE WAS READY TO END HER LIFE
00:14:52WHEN INVESTIGATOR DAVID
KESSLER, THEN WORKING FOR THE
00:14:55ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE,
SHOWED UP AT HER DOOR.
00:14:57RAMONA WILSON'S HUSBAND,
CHARLES SELLERS, WAS PROSECUTED
00:15:01AND EVENTUALLY HE LEFT THE
STATE THOUGH AND OF THE $14,000
00:15:04IN RESTITUTION HE WAS SUPPOSED
TO PAY HER, HE'S PAID ONLY $6.
00:15:10KESSLER NOW RUNS A WEBSITE THAT
TAKES IN TIPS ABOUT FRAUD,
00:15:13ABUSE AND NEGLECT OF SENIORS.
HE STARTED IT AFTER FORMER
00:15:16ATTORNEY GENERAL MARC DANN CUT
THE ELDERLY ABUSE
00:15:18INVESTIGATIONS UNIT.
THAT UNIT HAS NOT BEEN
00:15:22RESTORED, BUT CURRENT ATTORNEY
GENERAL MIKE DEWINE SAYS THERE
00:15:24ARE EFFORTS IN PLACE TO HELP
STOP ELDERLY ABUSE IN OHIO.
00:15:28AND MIKE DEWINE IS HERE TO TALK
ABOUT THOSE.
00:15:31WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE TALK
ABOUT ELDER ABUSE AS FAR AS LAW
00:15:34ENFORCEMENT AND CONSUMER
PROTECTION ARE CONCERNED, WHAT
00:15:37SPECIFIC CRIMES ARE WE TALKING
ABOUT?
00:15:39WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHEN
YOU LOOK FOR ELDER ABUSE, WHAT
00:15:42ARE YOU LOOKING FOR?
MIKE: YOU KNOW, ELDER ABUSE CAN
00:15:44BE ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.
IT CAN BE PHYSICAL ABUSE.
00:15:50IT CAN BE NEGLECT.
IT CAN BE FINANCIAL ABUSE.
00:15:52THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE THREE
BIG ONES.
00:15:56AND THAT'S UNIQUE, I THINK,
ABOUT THIS CRIME IS IT'S SO
00:16:00UNDERREPORTED.
IT'S UNDERREPORTED FOR, I
00:16:03GUESS, A NUMBER OF REASONS.
YOU KNOW, THE PERSON SOMETIMES
00:16:06IS NOT PHYSICALLY CAPABLE OF
REPORTING IT.
00:16:08THEY MAY NOT BE INTELLECTUALLY
CAPABLE AT THIS POINT IN THEIR
00:16:11LIFE TO DO IT, REPORT IT.
OR THIS HAPPENS A LOT, THEY
00:16:16DON'T WANT TO REPORT IT BECAUSE
THE PERSON WHO'S DOING IT TO
00:16:19THEM IS THEIR CAREGIVER.
OR SOMEONE WHO IS IN THE FAMILY
00:16:23AND THEY RELY ON EMOTIONALLY.
SO VERY, VERY TOUGH.
00:16:28AND SO WHAT WE'RE JUST
ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO DO IS TO
00:16:32BE ON THE LOOKOUT.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE
00:16:35AND YOU THINK THERE'S SOMETHING
GOING ON THERE, YOU KNOW,
00:16:38REPORT IT.
REPORT IT TO THE POLICE.
00:16:40REPORT IT TO THE SHERIFF.
REPORT IT TO US.
00:16:44YOU KNOW, WE WILL HELP THE
LOCAL AUTHORITIES WORK ON THE
00:16:47CASE.
KAREN: AND YOU MENTIONED REPORT
00:16:49TO US, THERE USED TO BE AN
ELDER ABUSE UNIT IN THE
00:16:52ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, BUT
IT WAS DISBANDED UNDER MARC
00:16:54DANN.
IT HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT BACK IN
00:16:57THE SAME FORM, BUT ARE YOU
DEALING WITH ELD AREA BUSE IN
00:16:59THE ELDER JUSTICE INITIATIVE IN
YOUR OFFICE.
00:17:02TELL ME WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING
ON THERE.
00:17:04MIKE: THE ELDER JUSTICE
INITIATIVE WAS SOMETHING THAT
00:17:07WAS THOUGHT UP BY FOLKS IN MY
OFFICE.
00:17:09I WON'T TAKE CREDIT FOR IT, BUT
I LOVE IT.
00:17:12I LOVE IT.
IT'S A GREAT THING.
00:17:13WE REALLY HAVE A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT PARTS OF OUR OFFICE
00:17:18THAT CAN COME TOGETHER WITH
RESOURCES WHEN WE GET A CALL
00:17:21FROM A SHERIFF, WE GET A CALL
FROM A PROSECUTOR, OR WE GET
00:17:25JUST A CALL FROM A CITIZEN.
YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR
00:17:29VICTIM PROGRAM, THEY CAN BECOME
INVOLVED.
00:17:32B.C.I. BECOMES INVOLVED WITH
FORENSIC ACCOUNTANTS.
00:17:36WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ELDER ABUSE
THAT'S FINANCIAL ABUSE, VERY
00:17:40TOUGH TO INVESTIGATE.
VERY LABOR INTENSIVE.
00:17:44YOU KNOW, TOUGH TO GET THE
LEADS.
00:17:47AND YOU REALLY NEED A FORENSIC
ACCOUNTANT TO COME IN AND GO
00:17:51THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS, THROUGH
THE BOOKS AND DETERMINE WHAT'S
00:17:54GOING ON.
KAREN: NOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
00:17:56REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE IN THIS
WAY, I MEAN, YOUR OFFICE
00:17:59DESCRIBES THE ELDER JUSTICE
INITIATIVE AS A WAY TO EDUCATE
00:18:03SENIORS AND CAREGIVERS AND
FAMILY MEMBERS ABOUT THE
00:18:06POSSIBLE CRIMES AND THE FRAUD
THAT CAN BE PERPETRATED AGAINST
00:18:08ELDERLY PEOPLE.
BUT THERE'S ALSO THIS OTHER
00:18:10HALF OF INVESTIGATING AND
PROSECUTING IT.
00:18:12AND IS YOUR OFFICE DOING THAT
PART OF IT, TOO, OR IS THAT
00:18:15REALLY MORE A LOCAL FUNCTION?
MIKE: WE WORK WITH THE LOCAL
00:18:18AUTHORITIES.
WHAT WE WILL DO IS WHEN WE GET
00:18:20THE CALL, IF IT COMES FROM A
PRIVATE CITIZEN, YOU KNOW,
00:18:24WE'RE GOING TO NOTIFY THE LOCAL
AUTHORITIES.
00:18:27WE'RE GOING TO TELL THEM WHAT
RESOURCES WE HAVE TO MAKE
00:18:30AVAILABLE AND TO WORK WITH
THEM, IF THEY WANT TO DO IT
00:18:32EXCLUSIVELY, THIS E CAN
CERTAINLY DO THAT.
00:18:34IF THEY WANT SOME HELP WE'RE
HAPPY TO SUPPLY THAT HELP.
00:18:37SO IT -- IT REALLY DEPENDS.
YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THE
00:18:42EDUCATION AND PREVENTION PART,
WHICH IS REALLY SO VERY
00:18:45IMPORTANT.
BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO WE WANT TO
00:18:48HELP VICTIMS AFTER THEY BECOME
VICTIM, WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW,
00:18:52KEEP PEOPLE FROM BECOMING
VICTIMS.
00:18:54AND SO PART OF THIS IS AN
EDUCATIONAL PROCESS.
00:18:58AND SO WE GO AROUND, WE WILL DO
SEMINARS.
00:19:01IF ANYONE'S GOT A SENIOR
CITIZEN CENTER THAT, YOU KNOW,
00:19:03THAT YOU WORK WITH VERY CLOSELY
OR YOU BELONG TO, IF YOU WANT
00:19:07THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE
TO COME OUT AND PUT A SEMINAR
00:19:10ON SOME DAY AT NOON, WE WILL DO
THAT.
00:19:12WE'D LOVE TO DO IT.
KAREN: AND YOU'RE ALSO DOING A
00:19:14VISUAL REPRESENTATION WITH NEW
BILLBOARDS THAT ARE STARTING TO
00:19:17KIND OF DIRECT PEOPLE WHERE TO
GO IF THEY SEE OR SUSPECT IT
00:19:22HAPPENING.
MIKE: YOU KNOW, OUR VIEWERS
00:19:23SHOULD START TO BE SEEING THESE
BILLBOARDS.
00:19:25WE PARTNERED WITH THE OUTDOOR
ADVERTISING ASSOCIATION OF
00:19:28OHIO.
GREAT FOLKS.
00:19:29AND WE'RE PUTTING THESE
BILLBOARDS UP.
00:19:32AND BASICALLY, IT'S A MESSAGE,
YOU KNOW, ELDER ABUSE DOES
00:19:35HAPPEN IN OHIO.
IT HAPPENS IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
00:19:38WE NEED YOUR HELP, AND REPORT
IT.
00:19:41KAREN: NOW, EDUCATION IS A
GREAT COMPONENT OF THIS, BUT
00:19:44THEN THERE'S ALSO THE IDEA OF
YOU NEED PEOPLE ON THE GROUND,
00:19:48BOOTS ON THE GROUND TO GO OUT
AND TALK TO FOLKS, ESPECIALLY
00:19:50PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TALK FACE TO
FACE.
00:19:52THEY MAY NOT BE WILLING TO GIVE
UP INFORMATION ON THE PHONE TO
00:19:56SOMEBODY -- DAVE KESSLER AND
RAMONA WILSON WHO WHY HERE LAST
00:20:02YEAR --
MIKE: AMAZING STORY.
00:20:04KAREN: IT IS AN AMAZING STORY.
IT WAS BECAUSE DAVE KESSLER WAS
00:20:09WILLING TO SHOW UP AT RAMONA
WILSON'S DOOR, GET HER TO TALK
00:20:13TO HIM FACE TO FACE THAT ALL
THIS CAME OUT.
00:20:15WHAT ABOUT THE FUNDING FOR
INVESTIGATORS WHO CAN ACTUALLY
00:20:17GO OUT AND DO THIS FACE TO
FACE, ONE-ON-ONE STUFF THAT
00:20:21REALLY DOES TAKE A LOT OF TIME
AND COST A LOT?
00:20:24MIKE: AND WE ARE WILLING TO GET
INVOLVED.
00:20:26AND WE'RE WILLING TO COME IN
AND DO.
00:20:27THAT AS I SAID, WE CAN BRING IN
VICTIM ADVOCATES, PEOPLE WHO
00:20:31UNDERSTAND HOW TO TALK TO
VICTIMS.
00:20:33THE FORENSIC ACCOUNTANT THAT I
TALKED ABOUT, VERY VITAL TO AN
00:20:37INVESTIGATION.
I MEAN, SO MANY DEPARTMENTS,
00:20:39YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE A FORENSIC
ACCOUNTANT, WHO'S SITTING
00:20:43THERE, WHO CAN GO, YOU KNOW,
DEAL WITH -- DEAL WITH THE
00:20:46BOOKS AND DEAL WITH THALL HAS
TO BE DEALT WITH.
00:20:48SO THESE ARE TOUGH CASES.
AND PARTICULARLY IF A POLICE
00:20:51DEPARTMENT IS, AS MOST OF THEM
ARE, SHORTHANDED, YOU KNOW,
00:20:55THEY'RE DEALING WITH BURGLARIES
AND RAPES AND MURDERS, AND SO
00:21:01NOT THAT THEY DON'T THINK THIS
TYPE CASE IS IMPORTANT, BUT
00:21:04THEY HAVE TO PRIORITIZE.
AND SO WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE A
00:21:08UNIT, WE'LL COME IN, WE'LL HELP
THEM DO THAT INVESTIGATION.
00:21:11KAREN: AND IS THERE SPECIAL
TRAINING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO
00:21:14HAPPEN FOR SOME OF THESE FOLKS?
THE INITIAL REACTION SOMETIMES
00:21:17COULD BE, HEY, YOU NEED TO HIRE
A LAWYER TO DEAL WITH THIS IF
00:21:20YOUR SPOUSE IS STEALING MONEY
FROM YOU OR YOUR GRANDSON OR
00:21:23WHATEVER.
IS THERE SPECIAL TRAINING
00:21:25THAT'S INVOLVED TO REALLY TRY
TO BREAK THROUGH THE WALLS THAT
00:21:27THESE VICTIMS CAN PUT UP AND
TRY TO GET AT THE HEART OF
00:21:30WHAT'S HAPPENING?
MIKE: OUR INVESTIGATORS ARE
00:21:32USED TO DEALING WITH VICTIMS.
WE ALSO CAN TAKE SOMEONE FROM
00:21:36OUR VICTIM ADVOCACY SECTION WHO
HAVE BEEN TRAINED, WHO REALLY
00:21:40UNDERSTAND VICTIMS.
IT'S -- IT'S PAYING ATTENTION.
00:21:44IT'S -- IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT
IS LABOR INTENSIVE.
00:21:48YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
AND WE DO THAT.
00:21:50AND THAT'S -- WE SET THIS UNIT
UP SPECIFICALLY TO DO IT.
00:21:54WE WANT TO TELL MORE PEOPLE IN
THE PUBLIC ABOUT IT.
00:21:57THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE
CHANCE TO BE ON THE SHOW AND
00:21:59TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT IS,
AS I SAID, SO UNDERREPORTED.
00:22:02KAREN: IS THERE ENOUGH MONEY TO
REALLY GET YOUR ARMS AROUND THE
00:22:05PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE
POPULATION OF PEOPLE 60 AND
00:22:07OVER IS GROWING IN OHIO?
MIKE: WELL, AS YOU KNOW, THE
00:22:10NUMBERS OF PEOPLE 60 AND OVER
IS GOING TO GO STRAIGHT UP LIKE
00:22:13THAT.
IT'S CONTINUING TO GO UP.
00:22:16BY THE YEAR 2050, I GUESS,
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A 50%
00:22:19INCREASE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN
THAT AGE GROUP.
00:22:22SO YEAH, THE DEMOGRAPHICS IN
OHIO ARE GOING RIGHT NEWSPAPER
00:22:25THAT DIRECTION, WHICH MEANS
THERE'S MORE AND MORE PEOPLE
00:22:27WHO ARE GOING TO BE VULNERABLE.
BUT AGAIN, YOU NEVER HAVE
00:22:30ENOUGH RESOURCES.
LOCAL POLICE DON'T.
00:22:33SHERIFF DOESN'T.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF
00:22:35FIGURING OUT HOW TO GO AT THIS
WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEALT WITH
00:22:40THIS BEFORE.
SO IF WE GET A SMALL DEPARTMENT
00:22:43THAT CALLS US, POLICE
DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
00:22:46DEALT WITH A NUMBER OF THOSE
CASES.
00:22:47THAT MAY BE THE ONLY CASE LIKE
THAT THEY HAVE DEALT WITH IN
00:22:50ONE, TWO, THREE YEARS.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE ANY
00:22:53BETTER THAN THEY ARE, BUT OUR
FOLKS HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE
00:22:56DOING THAT.
KAREN: NOW, YOUR OFFICE JUST IN
00:22:59THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS HAS
PUT OUT SOME NEWS RELEASES
00:23:02ABOUT SOME OF THESE CASES, SOME
HIGHER PROFILE CASES.
00:23:07A WOMAN SENTENCED TO THREE
YEARS IN PRISON FOR STEALING
00:23:10FROM AN ELDERLY MAN N MARCH,
YOUR OFFICE ANNOUNCED SOMEONE
00:23:17SENTENCED TO FIVE YEARS FOR
RUNNING A HOME IMPROVEMENT
00:23:22SCAN.
THAT IS JUSTICE IN A SENSE.
00:23:23THEY WERE ORDERED TO PAY
RESTITUTION.
00:23:25THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO JAIL.
WHAT OTHER RESOURCES ARE THERE
00:23:28FOR THOSE VICTIMS WHO IN MANY
CASES HAVE LOST, I MEAN, THE
00:23:31ONE $80,000?
I MEAN, HOW DO YOU -- HOW DO
00:23:34YOU REPAIR THAT WHEN YOU'RE AN
ELDERLY PERSON ON A FIXED
00:23:38INCOME?
WHAT OTHER RESOURCES ARE THERE?
00:23:40MIKE: WELL, THAT'S THE TOUGH
THING.
00:23:41YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WE CAN SEND SOMEBODY TO PRISON
00:23:44WHICH MEANS THEY'RE NOT GOING
TO CONTINUE TO THAT.
00:23:46SO WE'RE PREVENTING CRIME,
PREVENTING FUTURE VICTIMS.
00:23:50BUT AS FAR AS THAT PARTICULAR
VICTIM, YOU KNOW, MANY TIMES
00:23:54THEY ARE OUT THAT MONEY.
AND THERE'S -- YOU KNOW, NO WAY
00:23:57TO GET THAT MONEY BACK, QUITE
FRANKLY.
00:23:59KAREN: AND FINALLY, YOU LENT
YOUR SUPPORT TO A HOUSE BILL
00:24:04THAT THE SPONSOR SAID WOULD
GIVE THEM PROTECTION FROM
00:24:08SCAMS.
TELL ME ABOUT THIS BILL.
00:24:10MIKE: ONE THING IT DOES IS IT
MAKES THE ELDERLY COMMISSION
00:24:13THAT WE HAVE PERMANENT.
I HAVE IT IN MY OFFICE.
00:24:18OTHER ATTORNEY GENERALS HAVE
DONE IT.
00:24:20BUT THIS SAYS THERE SHOULD BE
THAT COMMISSION THERE TO BE
00:24:24FOCUSING ON THESE ISSUES.
SECOND THING IT DOES IT
00:24:26INCREASES THE NUMBER OF WHAT WE
CALL MANDATORY REPORTERS.
00:24:29A MANDATORY REPORTER IS SOMEONE
IF THEY HAVE REASONABLE CAUSE
00:24:32TO BELIEVE SOMETHING OCCURS
THEY HAVE TO REPORT IT.
00:24:34SO WE'VE NOW EXPANDED THAT INTO
THE FINANCIAL AREA.
00:24:37AND WE'VE GIVEN SOME MORE
AUTHORITY TO THE COURTS IN
00:24:42REGARD TO THE PROTECTION IN
REGARD TO PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING
00:24:45RIPPED OFF AND LOSING MONEY
EVERY WEEK.
00:24:47KAREN: AND DO YOU THINK THAT
THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO DEAL
00:24:50WITH THE PROBLEM, OR DO YOU
WISH THERE'S MORE THAT YOU
00:24:53COULD DO?
MIKE: I THINK THESE ARE TOOLS.
00:24:54I THINK THESE ARE VERY VALUABLE
TOOLS.
00:24:56WE WANT TO HAVE THEM.
YOU KNOW, WE SUPPORT THE
00:25:00LEGISLATION VERY MUCH.
I THINK THAT THERE'S NO EASY
00:25:03ANSWER TO SOLVE ALL THESE
PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE WHO'VE
00:25:07BEEN RIPPED OFF EXCEPT FOR ALL
OF US TO THINK ABOUT IT AND
00:25:10UNDERSTAND THAT ELDERLY ABUSE
DOES OCCUR IN OHIO.
00:25:13AND IT CAN OCCUR IN A NURSING
HOME OR SOMEONE IS BEING
00:25:18NEGLECTED OR SOMEONE IN THEIR
OWN HOME WHO'S BEING NEGLECTED.
00:25:22NOT UNIQUE TO NURSING HOMES
NECESSARILY.
00:25:24AND THEY CAN BE ABUSED IN
REGARD TO FINANCIALLY AND
00:25:27SOMETIMES THEY CAN -- THAT
ABUSE IS EMOTIONAL, WHICH COULD
00:25:30BE THE MOST DEVASTATING OF ALL.
KAREN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
00:25:34BEING HERE.
THE BUDGET THAT PASSED THE
00:25:36HOUSE HAS $3.5 MILLION PER YEAR
FOR ELDER PROTECTIVE SERVICES.
00:25:40THAT INCLUDES ABOUT $30,000 FOR
EACH OF OHIO'SLE 8 COUNTIES.
00:25:45BUT ADVOCATES SAY THAT'S NOT
ENOUGH MONEY TO HIRE A
00:25:48FULL-TIME CASEWORKER OR
INVESTIGATOR, SO THEY'RE
00:25:50WORKING WITH SENATORS TO SEE IF
THEY WILL CONSIDER INCREASING
00:25:53THAT AMOUNT.
AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
00:25:57FOR MY COLLEAGUES AT OHIO
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