00:00:00 | >> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE BROADCAST OF "THE STATE OF |
00:00:02 | OHIO" COMES FROM THE LAW OFFICES OF PORTER WRIGHT MORRIS & |
00:00:04 | ARTHUR LLP. HELPING BUSINESSES AND |
00:00:10 | INDIVIDUALS SOLVE COMPLEX LEGAL PROBLEMS. |
00:00:12 | AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING |
00:00:17 | 131,000 TEACHERS, SUPPORT PROFESSIONALS, AND HIGHER |
00:00:19 | EDUCATION PROFESSIONALS. WORKING FOR GREAT PUBLIC |
00:00:22 | SCHOOLS FOR EVERY CHILD. ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IS MADE |
00:00:29 | POSSIBLE BY ETECH OHIO. >> MORE THAN A DOZEN BILLS ARE |
00:00:41 | NOW LAW WITH THE GOVERNOR'S SIGNATURE, INCLUDING TWO HIGH- |
00:00:43 | PROFILE ONES ON EDUCATION AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING. |
00:00:45 | OHIO PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN THE ARGUMENTS OVER THE FEDERAL |
00:00:47 | AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. WE'LL HAVE REACTION TO THIS |
00:00:49 | WEEK'S HISTORICAL US SUPREME COURT RULING. |
00:00:51 | AND THERE'S ANOTHER CAMPAIGN TO CHANGE THE WAY THE LINES FOR THE |
00:00:53 | DISTRICTS FOR STATE AND FEDERAL LAWMAKERS IN OHIO ARE DRAWN. |
00:00:55 | BUT THAT DRIVE IS FACING A CRUCIAL DEADLINE. |
00:01:00 | ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF OHIO." |
00:01:01 | CAPTIONED BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE |
00:01:04 | --WWW.NCICAP.ORG-- |
00:01:05 | >> SUMMER BREAK FOR STATE LAWMAKERS IS WELL UNDERWAY, BUT |
00:01:08 | GOV. JOHN KASICH IS STILL WORKING HIS WAY THROUGH ALL THE |
00:01:10 | LEGISLATION THEY SENT TO HIS DESK BEFORE THEY LEFT. |
00:01:13 | THIS WEEK, THE GOVERNOR WENT TO CINCINNATI TO SIGN A SWEEPING |
00:01:17 | EDUCATION BILL THAT SEEKS TO STRENGTHEN TIES BETWEEN THE |
00:01:22 | STATE'S EMPLOYERS AND PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND MAKES DOZENS OF |
00:01:25 | OTHER POLICY CHANGES, INCLUDING CREATING A "THIRD GRADE READING |
00:01:28 | GUARANTEE." UNDER THAT PROVISION, THIRD- |
00:01:30 | GRADERS WITH LAGGING READING SKILLS FACE THE POSSIBILITY OF |
00:01:32 | BEING HELD BACK FOR UP TO TWO SCHOOL YEARS AS THEY GET |
00:01:35 | ACADEMIC HELP. THE MEASURE ALSO SETS ADJUSTED |
00:01:39 | TRAINING AND RETESTING REQUIREMENTS FOR TEACHERS WHO |
00:01:41 | ARE DEEMED TO BE INEFFECTIVE FOR TWO OF THE PREVIOUS THREE |
00:01:44 | YEARS. THE LEGISLATION ALSO REQUIRES |
00:01:48 | ALL SPECIAL NEEDS STUDENTS TO GET EYE EXAMS. |
00:01:50 | ON WEDNESDAY, THE GOVERNOR HEADED TO TOLEDO TO PUT HIS PEN |
00:01:54 | TO A BILL THAT INCREASES PENALTIES FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING |
00:01:57 | AND CREATES A FUND TO HELP VICTIMS. |
00:01:58 | THE LAW, WHICH TAKES EFFECT IMMEDIATELY, MAKES HUMAN |
00:02:02 | TRAFFICKING A FIRST-DEGREE FELONY, PUNISHABLE BY UP TO 15 |
00:02:05 | YEARS IN PRISON. THAT'S TOUGHER THAN THE SECOND- |
00:02:10 | DEGREE FELONY THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE ESTABLISHED IN LATE |
00:02:12 | 2010 TO TACKLE WHAT'S DESCRIBED AS MODERN-DAY SLAVERY. |
00:02:14 | THE LAW ALSO CREATES A PATH FOR VICTIMS TO HAVE THEIR RECORDS |
00:02:18 | EXPUNGED IF THEY HAVE PROSTITUTION OR SOLICITATION |
00:02:21 | CHARGES AS A RESULT OF BEING FORCED INTO THE SEX TRADE. |
00:02:23 | IN BETWEEN THOSE PUBLIC EVENTS, THE GOVERNOR SIGNED 13 OTHER |
00:02:29 | BILLS, INCLUDING ONE TO EASE EX-INMATES BACK INTO THE |
00:02:32 | WORKFORCE AS COSMETOLOGISTS, SALVAGE-YARD DEALERS AND |
00:02:36 | CONSTRUCTION WORKERS BY ELIMINATING BARRIERS CALLED |
00:02:38 | "COLLATERAL SANCTIONS." HE ALSO SIGNED LAWS TO PROHIBIT |
00:02:41 | PEOPLE FROM ALTERING A VEHICLE TO CREATE OR ADD A HIDDEN |
00:02:45 | COMPARTMENT, TO REQUIRE SCRAP METAL DEALERS TO TAKE A |
00:02:49 | PHOTOGRAPH OF ANYONE WHO SELLS THEM MATERIAL, AND TO TAKE THE |
00:02:53 | FINAL STEP IN CHANGING THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT BY |
00:02:56 | RENAMING IT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AGENCY. |
00:02:58 | DEMOCRATS ARE CHEERING THE RESULTS OF AN INDEPENDENT POLL |
00:03:01 | OF THREE SWING STATES, INCLUDING OHIO. |
00:03:03 | A QUINNIPIAC POLL SHOWS IN OHIO, DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT |
00:03:06 | BARACK OBAMA HAS 47 PERCENT COMPARED TO 38% FOR REPUBLICAN |
00:03:10 | MITT ROMNEY. AND IN OHIO'S U.S. SENATE RACE, |
00:03:13 | DEMOCRATIC INCUMBENT U.S. SEN. SHERROD BROWN TOPS REPUBLICAN |
00:03:17 | STATE TREASURER JOSH MANDEL 50% TO 34%. |
00:03:19 | THE QUINNIPIAC POLL IN MAY SHOWED THE CANDIDATES JUST SIX |
00:03:23 | POINTS APART. BUT POLLSTER PETER BROWN ALSO |
00:03:26 | NOTES THAT THE ELECTION IS MORE THAN FOUR MONTHS AWAY, WHICH HE |
00:03:29 | SAYS IS A LIFETIME IN POLITICS. AND OF COURSE, THIS POLL WAS |
00:03:33 | DONE BEFORE THE HISTORIC US SUPREME COURT DECISION ON THE |
00:03:35 | AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. BY NOW THAT RULING IS OLD NEWS. |
00:03:39 | THE DECISION TO UPHOLD PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA'S HEALTH |
00:03:43 | CARE OVERHAUL WAS ALL ANYONE IN POLITICS WAS TALKING ABOUT ON |
00:03:47 | THURSDAY, WITH REACTION COMING IN FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY |
00:03:49 | AND FROM ALL POLITICAL PERSPECTIVES. |
00:03:50 | OHIO HAS SOME 1.5 MILLION UNINSURED PEOPLE, OR ABOUT 14% |
00:03:54 | OF THE POPULATION. AND THE ISSUE HAS BEEN VERY IMPORTANT |
00:03:57 | IN OHIO. LAST FALL VOTERS OVERWHELMINGLY |
00:04:02 | APPROVED ISSUE 3, THE SO-CALLED HEALTH CARE FREEDOM ACT, WHICH |
00:04:05 | STATES THAT OHIOANS CAN OPT OUT OF A GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE |
00:04:08 | SYSTEM. AND OHIO PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN |
00:04:11 | THE CASE AGAINST THE LAW. OHIO'S MIKE DEWINE WAS AMONG |
00:04:13 | THE 26 ATTORNEYS GENERAL WHO BROUGHT THE CASE TO THE HIGH |
00:04:16 | COURT. I ASKED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL |
00:04:19 | WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. >> I THINK IT GOES RIGHT BACK |
00:04:27 | INTO THE POLITICAL ARENA. THIS IS A MAJOR CAMPAIGN ISSUE. |
00:04:32 | IT WILL BE FOUGHT OUT IN THE CAMPAIGN. |
00:04:36 | THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON IT IN |
00:04:40 | DEFAULT. >> IS THAT WHERE YOU THINK IT |
00:04:43 | BELONGS >> I THOUGHT IT WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. |
00:04:47 | THE SUPREME COURT AGREED WITH US ON OUR ARGUMENT THAT IT WAS A |
00:04:51 | VIOLATION OF THE COMMERCE CLAUSE. |
00:04:53 | WHAT WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE WAS THAT THE SUPREME COURT, AFTER |
00:05:02 | OBAMAS SAID IT WAS NOT A TAX, AND AFTER THE LOWER COURT SAID |
00:05:05 | IT WAS NOT A TAX, NOW FIVE MEMBERS OF THE SUPREME COURT |
00:05:11 | SAYS IT IS NOW A TAX. >> WHAT HAPPENS IN THE OHIO |
00:05:15 | SPECIFICALLY? ESHOO 3 SAYS THE STATES WOULD |
00:05:19 | NOT COME UP WITH A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE MANDATED |
00:05:23 | FOR PARTICIPATION. WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT NOW? |
00:05:26 | >> THAT STAYS ON THE BOOKS. IT MEANS NO FUTURE LEGISLATURE |
00:05:33 | CAN PASS A LAW THAT VIOLATES THAT IN THE STATE OF OHIO. |
00:05:37 | WE CANNOT PREEMPT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, PARTICULARLY NOW |
00:05:41 | THAT WE HAVE A FEDERAL -- A SUPREME COURT DECISION THAT SAYS |
00:05:46 | IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. >> THERE IS NOTHING IN ISSUE 3 |
00:05:52 | THAT PRESENTS A FEDERAL LAW FROM BEING ENFORCED. |
00:05:54 | >> WE FOUGHT THAT BATTLE IN THIS COUNTRY IN THE 1860'S. |
00:05:59 | WE WERE ON THE WINNING SIDE OF THAT ONE. |
00:06:02 | THE SUPREME COURT HAS SPOKEN. IT GOES BACK INTO THE POLITICAL |
00:06:07 | ARENA. THERE IS NOTHING TO STOP A |
00:06:10 | FUTURE CONGRESS OR PRESIDENT FROM REPEALING THIS MANDATE. |
00:06:12 | IT WAS A BIG VICTORY FOR OHIO AND OTHER STATES TODAY IN |
00:06:18 | REGARD TO MEDICAID. WHAT THE SUPREME COURT SAID IS |
00:06:23 | THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CANNOT BLACKMAILED THE STATES AND |
00:06:26 | COMPEL THEM TO EXPAND MEDICAID. THE WAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT |
00:06:29 | WAS DOING THAT, THE BILL SAID TO THE STATES, IF YOU DO NOT ACCEPT |
00:06:37 | THIS EXPANSION OF MEDICAID, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE AWAY ALL OF |
00:06:43 | THE MEDICAID MONEY FROM YOU. THE SUPREME COURT SAID THAT IS |
00:06:48 | TO BANK FAR. THAT IS BLACKMAIL AND YOU CANNOT |
00:06:50 | DO THAT. THAT WAS A REAL VICTORY. |
00:06:54 | >> IN THE MEANTIME, IT GOES BACK INTO THE POLITICAL ARENA TO BE |
00:06:58 | THOUGHT OUT. STATES ARE SETTING UP EXCHANGES. |
00:07:03 | IS IT YOUR OPINION THAT OHIO NEEDS TO SET UP AN EXCHANGE? |
00:07:08 | >> I AM NOT GOING TO TELL THE GOVERNOR OR THE LEGISLATURE WHAT |
00:07:12 | TO DO. IT'S THE QUESTION IS IF THERE IS |
00:07:16 | ANYTHING LEFT TO DO LEGALLY, THE ANSWER IS NO. |
00:07:21 | THIS IS THE LAW OF THE LAND. >> THIS IS THE LAW AND IT NEEDS |
00:07:28 | TO BE FOLLOWED. >> THIS IS A LOT OF THE LAND AND |
00:07:31 | WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW. -- LAW OF THE LAND AND WE HAVE |
00:07:38 | TO FOLLOW THE LAW. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BILL |
00:07:43 | PASSED ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS WHERE WE FIX THE PROBLEMS WE |
00:07:47 | HAVE. THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS |
00:07:50 | IN THIS OBAMACARE BILL. WE DETEST THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE |
00:07:55 | AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DETEST IT AND IT IS WRONG. |
00:07:58 | THAT NEEDS TO BE REPEALED. >> YOU WERE ON THE WINNING SIDE |
00:08:04 | OF THIS ARGUMENT. ARE YOU GLAD YOU TOOK THIS CASE |
00:08:08 | TO THE SUPREME COURT AND GOT A DEFINITIVE ANSWER? |
00:08:12 | >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. WHAT DID WE ACCOMPLISH? |
00:08:15 | WE CLARIFIED THAT THEY CANNOT PASS A LAW LIKE THIS PURSUANT TO |
00:08:22 | THE COMMERCE CLAUSE. THAT HAS HUGE IMPLICATIONS. |
00:08:25 | FOR THE PROTECTION OF OUR LIBERTY. |
00:08:30 | THE SECOND IS MUCH MORE TANGIBLE AND IMMEDIATE. |
00:08:33 | THE STATE DOES NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT THE NEW MEDICAID |
00:08:38 | MANDATES. WE CAN MAKE OUR OWN DECISION |
00:08:41 | WITH REGARD TO THAT. >> AMONG THE SUPPORTERS OF THE |
00:08:47 | AFFORDABLE CARE AT ARE THE MEMBERS OF THE COALITION OF |
00:08:50 | OHIO. REPUBLICAN OFFICEHOLDERS ARE |
00:08:57 | SPEAKING OUT AND WORKING AGAINST THE LAW. |
00:09:00 | >> I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE IN POLITICS AND PEOPLE |
00:09:04 | WHO ARE IDEOLOGICAL HAVE TO FIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING |
00:09:07 | CONSTANTLY. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THREE |
00:09:10 | YEARS. IT IS ABOUT WHETHER YOU HAVE TO |
00:09:14 | MAKE CHOICES THAT ARE DIFFICULT, WHAT YOU GO BANKRUPT |
00:09:17 | BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HEALTH PROBLEM. |
00:09:19 | THAT IS WHAT LED TO THIS, NOT WHAT -- NOT ELECTING SOMEONE. |
00:09:26 | I WISH PEOPLE WOULD COME -- CALM DOWN A LITTLE BIT. |
00:09:32 | >> THE IDEA COULD BE MADE THAT A LOT OF OHIOANS DID NOT LIKE THE |
00:09:43 | AFFORDABLE HEALTH-CARE LAW AND THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT |
00:09:46 | THE MANDATE. >> I WAS RUNNING THE CAMPAIGN |
00:09:51 | AGAINST ISSUE 3. YOU COULD NOT RAISE MONEY |
00:09:54 | BECAUSE EVERYBODY ACKNOWLEDGED IT WAS A MEANINGLESS AMENDMENT. |
00:09:58 | I COULD NOT CAMPAIGN AGAINST IT. I GOT MAYBE $10,000 OR $15,000. |
00:10:04 | IT WAS NOT A LOT OF MONEY. THE WAY THE LANGUAGE WAS |
00:10:09 | WRITTEN, SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY WERE VOTING FOR HEALTH CARE |
00:10:16 | REFORM. I DO NOT THINK THAT NECESSARILY |
00:10:18 | IS WHAT IT MEANS. QUITE FRANKLY, BATTLES ARE OVER. |
00:10:23 | THE COURT HAS RULED. PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR |
00:10:27 | LEADERSHIP OUT OF WASHINGTON. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR ADULT |
00:10:30 | BEHAVIOR OUT OF OUR POLITICIANS. IT IS TIME TO MEND FENCES AND |
00:10:36 | MOVE ON AND GET PEOPLE INSURANCE, WHICH IS WHAT IS |
00:10:40 | NECESSARY IN THE STATE. >> DOES THAT MEAN SETTING UP |
00:10:44 | EXCHANGES? >> WE HAVE THE KIND OF GOVERNOR |
00:10:47 | WHO WAS HEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE. |
00:10:50 | HE HAS REFUSED TO SET UP AN EXCHANGE. |
00:10:53 | AN EXCHANGE IS A WEBSITE WHERE YOU GO TO PRIVATE INSURANCE |
00:10:57 | COMPANIES AND YOU GET TO CHOOSE WHAT KIND OF INSURANCE YOU WANT |
00:11:00 | TO HAVE FOR YOUR FAMILY. IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. |
00:11:03 | VARIOUS STATES ARE CONSERVATIVE LIKE UTAH ARE CREATING |
00:11:15 | EXCHANGES. THIS IS POLITICIANS BEING |
00:11:18 | POLITICIANS AND TRYING TO DIVIDE THE PUBLIC AND HAVE THESE |
00:11:21 | ARGUMENTS OVER AND OVER AND MIKE DEWINE FILING MORE LAWSUITS. |
00:11:29 | >> THIS IS GOING TO PLAY A ROLE IN THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE. |
00:11:32 | THERE IS TALK OF A REPEAL BE VOTED ON SOON. |
00:11:36 | THIS IS NOT OVER. >> THEY WILL TRY TO MAKE IT A |
00:11:40 | POLITICAL ISSUE. YOU HAVE THE GUY WHO POLITIC -- |
00:11:45 | WHO INVENTED THE WHOLE SYSTEM IN ROMANY RUNNING AGAINST PRESIDENT |
00:11:50 | OBAMA. HE CREATED ROMNEYCARE AND IS |
00:11:56 | ADVOCATING AGAINST IT FOR THE REST OF US. |
00:11:58 | IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THE LEVEL OF POLITICAL DISCOURSE AND THAT |
00:12:04 | IT HAS GOTTEN TO BE ABSURD. >> NOW AT THE END OF THE LEGAL |
00:12:12 | ARGUMENTS HERE AND THE LEGAL CASE, WITH YOUR SIDE BEEN THE |
00:12:17 | WINNING SIDE, DO YOU THINK THIS WAS A GOOD DECISION? |
00:12:21 | >> I THINK IT WAS THE DECISION I THOUGHT WOULD HAPPEN ALL ALONG. |
00:12:25 | I WAS SURPRISED IT WAS JUSTICE ROBERTS WHO WAS THE SWING OF |
00:12:31 | VOTE AND NOT JUSTICE KENNEDY. MEDICARE, MEDICAID, AND SOCIAL |
00:12:37 | SECURITY ARE SIMILAR PROGRAMS. THERE ARE STILL SOME PEOPLE ARE |
00:12:42 | STILL ARGUING THEY WANT TO GET WITH IT -- GET RID OF THE INCOME |
00:12:47 | TAX SYSTEM AND NOT HAVE INCOME TAXES. |
00:12:49 | I THINK IT IS IRONIC THAT A LOT OF CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE AGAINST |
00:12:57 | TRADITIONAL -- JUDICIAL ACTIVISM WERE ARGUING FOR THE COURT TO |
00:13:07 | VOTE AND GET SOMETHING THAT WAS PASSED. |
00:13:09 | THE BOTTOM LINE FOR PEOPLE IS THIS IS ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO IS |
00:13:15 | SICK AND ABOUT WHETHER YOU GO BANKRUPT BECAUSE YOU ARE SICK |
00:13:19 | AND WHETHER YOU HAVE THE SAME ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE AS OTHER |
00:13:22 | PEOPLE. THE MORE WE AS ADULTS BRING IT |
00:13:25 | BACK TO THAT, THE MORE POLITICIANS WILL START ACTING |
00:13:28 | MORE ADULT. <NO VIDEO><VIDEO OK> |
00:13:40 | >> INCIDENTALLY, A QUINNIPIAC SWING STATE POLL LAST MONTH |
00:13:42 | SHOWED MORE THAN HALF OF OHIO VOTERS WANTED THE SUPREME COURT |
00:13:44 | TO STRIKE DOWN THE LAW. DEWINE SAID OHIO'S INVOLVEMENT |
00:13:46 | IN OPPOSITION TO THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WILL CONTINUE IN A |
00:13:47 | LAWSUIT DISPUTING THE LAW ON THE GROUNDS IT COMPELS PEOPLE TO |
00:13:49 | VIOLATE THEIR RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLES. |
00:13:50 | OVER THE YEARS, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THE |
00:13:52 | WAY THE BOUNDARIES FOR LAWMAKERS' DISTRICTS ARE DRAWN |
00:13:55 | IN OHIO. THE OHIO GENERAL ASSEMBLY DRAWS |
00:13:57 | THE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT LINES, AND A FIVE-MEMBER |
00:13:59 | APPORTIONMENT BOARD CREATES THE BOUNDARIES FOR STATE HOUSE AND |
00:14:01 | SENATE DISTRICTS. THE LAST ROUND OF REDISTRICTING |
00:14:04 | WAS BITTER AND PROTRACTED. LAST YEAR, STATE LAWMAKERS |
00:14:07 | BRIEFLY CREATED TWO SEPARATE PRIMARIES FOR THIS YEAR BECAUSE |
00:14:10 | OF A SPAT OVER THE WAY THE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT MAP WAS |
00:14:13 | DRAWN, BUT EVENTUALLY CAME TO A DEAL TO MERGE THE PRIMARIES |
00:14:17 | INTO ONE IN MARCH. WHILE THAT SETTLED THE PRIMARY |
00:14:21 | ISSUE, IT DIDN'T RESOLVE CONCERNS OVER THE MAP-DRAWING |
00:14:23 | PROCESS. DEMOCRATS HAD SUED OVER THAT |
00:14:27 | MAP, AND REDISTRICTING EXPERTS HOWLED WHEN PUBLIC DOCUMENTS |
00:14:30 | SHOWED THAT U.S. HOUSE SPEAKER JOHN BOEHNER OF CINCINNATI |
00:14:33 | PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN HOW THE MAP WAS CONSTRUCTED. |
00:14:35 | AND THE MAP ITSELF IS CONSIDERED BY ITS OPPONENTS TO |
00:14:41 | BE ONE OF THE MOST EGREGIOUS EXAMPLES OF GERRYMANDERING IN |
00:14:45 | RECENT HISTORY. THE CONGRESSIONAL MAP IS THOUGHT |
00:14:48 | TO FAVOR REPUBLICANS 12-4, IN A STATE WHERE THE REPUBLICAN AND |
00:14:50 | DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES FOR GOVERNOR WERE JUST TWO |
00:14:56 | PERCENTAGE POINTS APART. FOR THE PROCESS TO CHANGE, |
00:14:58 | VOTERS HAVE TO WEIGH IN. AND ALL THE WRANGLING OVER THE |
00:15:01 | MAPS HAS CREATED THE LATEST CAMPAIGN TO TRY TO COME UP WITH |
00:15:04 | A NEW WAY TO DRAW THE MAPS. A GROUP CALLING ITSELF VOTERS |
00:15:06 | FIRST HAS DRAFTED A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT |
00:15:12 | THEY SAY WOULD "ENSURE OHIO VOTER'S RIGHT TO FAIR AND |
00:15:14 | COMPETITIVE ELECTIONS BY CREATING A NON-PARTISAN, |
00:15:17 | INDEPENDENT CITIZENS COMMISSION THAT WILL DRAW OHIO'S |
00:15:19 | LEGISLATIVE AND CONGRESSIONAL BOUNDARIES OUT IN THE OPEN FOR |
00:15:22 | ALL OF US TO SEE." THE VOTERS FIRST AMENDMENT |
00:15:26 | WOULD PROHIBIT POLITICIANS, LOBBYISTS AND POLITICAL INSIDERS |
00:15:28 | FROM SITTING ON THIS CITIZENS' COMMISSION. |
00:15:31 | AND THIS PETITION DRIVE HAS BROUGHT OUT AN ENDORSEMENT THAT |
00:15:35 | SOME MIGHT FIND SURPRISING. THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF OHIO IS |
00:15:37 | BACKING IT. BUT THE CLOCK IS TICKING. |
00:15:39 | THE COALITION HAS UNTIL JULY 4 TO COLLECT SIGNATURES TO GET |
00:15:43 | THE AMENDMENT ONTO THIS FALL'S BALLOT. |
00:15:44 | HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE VOTERS FIRST INITIATIVE ARE CATHERINE |
00:15:51 | TURCER IS THE CHAIR OF VOTERS FIRST. |
00:15:52 | AND KEVIN KNEDLER IS THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE CHAIR OF THE |
00:15:54 | LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF OHIO. >> CATHERINE TURCER, I WILL |
00:16:02 | START WITH YOU. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS ISSUE |
00:16:05 | SO MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS. THE VOTERS HAD A CHANCE TO |
00:16:09 | DECIDE HOW THIS DISTRICT WAS DRAWN. |
00:16:11 | THEY CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT. WHY NOW? |
00:16:15 | >> THIS IS A NEW YEAR. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK BACK |
00:16:19 | AT WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR. THE DISTRICT LINES WERE |
00:16:24 | MANIPULATED. THE MANIPULATION OF THOSE |
00:16:27 | DISTRICT LINES IS A MANIPULATION OF VOTERS. |
00:16:30 | THIS IS THE TIME TO CHANGE IT. WE ARE WELL EDUCATED AND WE CAN |
00:16:35 | SEE WHAT GOES ON. THIS IS ALL THE WAY FROM TOLEDO |
00:16:40 | TO CLEVELAND. YOU COULD LIVE IN FRANKLIN |
00:16:44 | COUNTY AND YOUR NEIGHBOR COULD BE IN THREE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. |
00:16:47 | WE WANT DISTRICTS TO BE FAIR SO THAT WE ARE ALL WELL |
00:16:51 | REPRESENTATIVE -- WELL REPRESENTED. |
00:16:55 | >> BRIAN ROTHENBERG, THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY HAS WEIGHED |
00:17:05 | IN ON THIS. WHY IS YOUR POLITICAL PARTY |
00:17:09 | GETTING INVOLVED? >> I WILL TRY NOT TO USE |
00:17:12 | ANALOGIES AND CLICHES. I DO NOT THINK IT IS GETTING |
00:17:17 | BETTER WITH THE TWO PARTY SYSTEM WE HAVE. |
00:17:19 | BOTH PARTIES ARE FROM THE 19TH CENTURY. |
00:17:23 | SOMEWHERE DOWN THE PRIORITY LIST IS THE VOTER AND THE |
00:17:27 | CONSIDERATION OF VOTER FREEDOM RIGHTS. |
00:17:30 | WE HAVE FOUGHT THREE LAWSUITS TO GET ON THE BALLOT. |
00:17:36 | VERY ENTRENCHED PARTIES HERE IN OHIO. |
00:17:42 | WE SAW THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAND UP AND SAY, WE NEED TO PUT |
00:17:47 | THE VOTERS FIRST. IT IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT |
00:17:51 | DIRECTION. IT IS TIME FOR CITIZENS IN OHIO |
00:17:53 | TO HAVE A VOICE. VOTER REGISTRATION FOR THE MAJOR |
00:18:02 | PARTIES IS DECLINING. THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY |
00:18:05 | REGISTRATION IS UP. INDEPENDENT VOTERS ARE |
00:18:09 | INDEPENDENT FOR A REASON. THEY ARE NOT PART OF A MARKETING |
00:18:12 | MACHINE. THEY WANT A VOICE. |
00:18:14 | THE CINCINNATI REDS ARE PLAYING A BASKETBALL -- A BASEBALL GAME. |
00:18:22 | THEY GET TO PICK THE RULES AND THEY GET TO A UMPIRES. |
00:18:26 | THAT IS KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE THE REPUBLICANS AND |
00:18:30 | DEMOCRATS SETTING THE RULES FOR DISTRICTING. |
00:18:33 | WE FIND THAT IS NOT A GOOD SITUATION. |
00:18:37 | >> DID YOU REACH OUT TO THE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC PARTY |
00:18:41 | TO ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO JOIN THIS EFFORT? |
00:18:45 | >> WE REACHED OUT TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. |
00:18:47 | A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS HAVE ENDORSED US LIKE THE COUNSEL OF |
00:18:53 | CHOICE -- THE COUNCIL OF CHURCHES, THE SIERRA CLUB. |
00:18:57 | ORGANIZATIONS HAVE COME ON RECENTLY TO SAY, WE HAVE TO HAVE |
00:19:03 | THE VOTERS TAKE PRIORITIES. THE RIGGING OF THE SYSTEM -- THE |
00:19:11 | FOXES ARE IN CHARGE OF THE HEN HOUSE. |
00:19:17 | >> HAVE ANY DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN CONCERNED ABOUT THE |
00:19:23 | -- REPUBLICANS CONCERNED ABOUT THE MAP? |
00:19:31 | >> SOME HAVE. IT IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT |
00:19:37 | FOR THE REPUBLICANS. IN A WINNER TAKE ALL SYSTEM, THE |
00:19:42 | WINNERS LIKE THE SYSTEM. WE HAVE HAD DIFFICULTY GETTING |
00:19:45 | REPUBLICANS ON BOARD. THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF FOLKS WHO |
00:19:49 | SEE THIS AS IMPORTANT. THOSE FOLKS IN THE BACK ROOMS, |
00:19:53 | THAT IS A MINORITY SECTION OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. |
00:19:56 | MOST FOLKS WOULD AGREE, YOU DO NOT NEED TO HAVE A FINGER ON THE |
00:20:02 | SCALE. YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO THAT. |
00:20:04 | IF YOUR ISSUES ARE GOOD, THEY WILL RISE. |
00:20:08 | PEOPLE OF ALL PARTIES AGREE. >> KEVIN, YOU MIGHT LOOK AT THIS |
00:20:16 | SKEPTICALLY AT AND SAY THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY IS TRYING TO |
00:20:20 | BREAK INTO THE TWO PARTY SYSTEM THAT THEY HAVE TROUBLE GETTING |
00:20:24 | INTO. IS THIS SOMETHING YOU AS A |
00:20:28 | LIBERTARIAN CAN LOOK AT AND SUPPORT, OR IS THIS A WAY TO GET |
00:20:31 | ON THE BALLOT? >> IT IS PRINCIPAL. |
00:20:34 | IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. WE HAVE TO DO THIS. |
00:20:42 | THIS IS OUT OF CONTROL. THE TEA PARTIERS COLLUDING |
00:20:46 | TOGETHER TO PREVENT COMPETITION, -- TWO PARTIES |
00:20:52 | COLLUDING TOGETHER TO PREVENT COMPETITION. |
00:20:55 | TWO GROUPS GET TOGETHER TO SET UP DISTRICT. |
00:20:58 | IT DOES NOT PERMITTED IN THE TRADE, IN BUSINESS. |
00:21:02 | PUT ASIDE THAT I AM WITH THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY. |
00:21:06 | MANY PEOPLE I SPEAK WITH BELIEVE THIS IS BEHIND. |
00:21:11 | WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS YEARS AGO. |
00:21:13 | INDEPENDENT VOTERS COME TOGETHER WITH MEMBERS OF PARTIES TO HELP |
00:21:17 | SET DISTRICTING. IT SHOULD NOT BE SET BETWEEN TWO |
00:21:22 | GROUPS. >> YOU HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF |
00:21:25 | SUPPORT AND EDITORIALS THAT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN IN FAVOR OF THIS. |
00:21:29 | YOU ARE ALSO IN A BALANCED SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO |
00:21:33 | GET LOST IN ALL THE NOISE IN THE PRESIDENTIAL AND U.S. SENATE |
00:21:37 | RACES. HOW DO YOU REACH OUT TO VOTERS |
00:21:40 | AND CONVINCE THEM TO VOTE YES? IT IS A CHALLENGE IN A BUSY |
00:21:45 | ELECTION YEAR. >> THIS IS A BOOTHS -- BOOTS ON |
00:21:55 | THE GROUND KIND OF THING. BUT I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS THE |
00:21:59 | IDEA THAT WE WANT OUR VOTED TO BE MEANINGFUL. |
00:22:02 | WE WANT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BE ACCOUNTABLE. |
00:22:07 | THIS IS EASIER TO SAY WE WANT OUR VOTES TO MEAN SOMETHING. |
00:22:12 | ALL KINDS OF FOLKS ARE COMING TOGETHER TO SAY, LET'S GET THAT |
00:22:16 | MESSAGE OUT. >> ISN'T THE PROBLEM BEYOND THE |
00:22:21 | WAY THE MAP IS DRAWN? THE TWO PARTIES ARE WELL FUNDED |
00:22:29 | AND FINANCED. SHOULDN'T WE BE GOING AFTER |
00:22:32 | CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAWS? >> CAMPAIGN FINANCE IS ONE |
00:22:37 | ASPECT. THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS IS |
00:22:40 | ANOTHER ONE. YOU HAVE THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS, |
00:22:46 | DUE TO REPUBLICANS, TWO DEMOCRATS. |
00:22:47 | -- TWO REPUBLICANS AND TWO DEMOCRATS. |
00:22:53 | WHY EARNED THERE -- AREN'T THERE INDEPENDENT VOTERS ON THAT |
00:23:04 | BOARD? THIS IS A PIECE OF A LARGER |
00:23:10 | PUZZLE. IT IS BOARD OF ELECTIONS AND |
00:23:15 | BALLOT ACCESS. >> THIS IS A BID, SYSTEMIC |
00:23:19 | CHANGE. IT DOES NOT ADDRESS OTHER ISSUES |
00:23:21 | LIKE THE MONEY IN POLITICS. HE KNOW ABOUT THE CITIZENS |
00:23:26 | UNITED DECISION AND FOLKS IN MONTANA SAYING NO. |
00:23:29 | WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT DIFFERENTLY. |
00:23:33 | THE COURT SAID FREE SPEECH IS THE NAME OF THE GAME AND AND |
00:23:42 | FREE SPEECH IS EQUIVALENT TO MONEY. |
00:23:43 | TACKLING CAMPAIGN FINANCE THIS YEAR WOULD BE TOUGH. |
00:23:52 | DEALING WITH DISTRICTING IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO. |
00:23:56 | WE CAN MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR THE CITIZENS OF OHIO. |
00:23:59 | BUT YOU HAVE UNTIL WEDNESDAY, JULY 4. |
00:24:03 | YOU COULD MAKE SOME ARGUMENTS ABOUT INDEPENDENCE DAY. |
00:24:06 | WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DO NOT MAKE IT? |
00:24:08 | >> THE WAY IT WORKS IS MUCH LIKE OTHER BALLOT CAMPAIGNS. |
00:24:13 | THE SCHISM -- THE SIGNATURES DO NOT GO BAD. |
00:24:16 | YOU CAN FILE LATER. OUR PLAN IS TO DO OUR FILING ON |
00:24:21 | THE FOURTH OF JULY. BUT SO THERE IS NO PLAN B IF YOU |
00:24:27 | DO NOT GET THE SIGNATURES. >> CLEARLY, THERE IS A PLAN B. |
00:24:33 | IT IS TRUE THAT I AM AND OPTIMIST. |
00:24:36 | WE ARE PICKING THE FOURTH OF JULY. |
00:24:41 | >> ONE FINAL QUESTION. IF THIS DOES GET ON THE BALLOT, |
00:24:49 | 12 MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION WOULD BE SELECTED BY SUPREME |
00:24:51 | COURT JUDGES THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THE PARTIES COULD |
00:24:54 | THROW OUT CERTAIN PEOPLE. THAT IS HOW YOU PROTECT THE |
00:24:58 | COMMISSION FROM BEING POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. |
00:25:00 | HOW WOULD PEOPLE GET ON THAT COMMISSION? |
00:25:02 | >> YOU JUST APPLY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS -- ONE |
00:25:09 | OF THE EXCITING THINGS IS THAT ANY OF THE PEOPLE WATCHING COULD |
00:25:13 | ACTUALLY BE ON THE COMMISSION. YES, THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WILL |
00:25:17 | CONTINUE. >> THAT WOULD REDRAW THE |
00:25:25 | DISTRICT LINES UNTIL WE TEAR? >> 2014. |
00:25:29 | BUT ABOUT THIS. WE WANT YOU TO GET EXCITED ABOUT |
00:25:32 | MAKING THINGS FAIR. WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS NOW. |
00:25:37 | WE NEED A FAIR SYSTEM NOW. >> CATHERINE TURCER AND KEVIN |
00:25:44 | KNEDLER FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF OHIO. |
00:25:49 | >> AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK. FOR MY COLLEAGUES AT OHIO PUBLIC |
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