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BROADCAST OF "THE STATE OF
00:00:02OHIO" COMES FROM THE LAW OFFICES
OF PORTER WRIGHT MORRIS &
00:00:04ARTHUR LLP.
HELPING BUSINESSES AND
00:00:10INDIVIDUALS SOLVE COMPLEX LEGAL
PROBLEMS.
00:00:12AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
00:00:17131,000 TEACHERS, SUPPORT
PROFESSIONALS, AND HIGHER
00:00:19EDUCATION PROFESSIONALS.
WORKING FOR GREAT PUBLIC
00:00:22SCHOOLS FOR EVERY CHILD.
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IS MADE
00:00:29POSSIBLE BY ETECH OHIO.
>> MORE THAN A DOZEN BILLS ARE
00:00:41NOW LAW WITH THE GOVERNOR'S
SIGNATURE, INCLUDING TWO HIGH-
00:00:43PROFILE ONES ON EDUCATION AND
HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
00:00:45OHIO PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN THE
ARGUMENTS OVER THE FEDERAL
00:00:47AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
WE'LL HAVE REACTION TO THIS
00:00:49WEEK'S HISTORICAL US SUPREME
COURT RULING.
00:00:51AND THERE'S ANOTHER CAMPAIGN TO
CHANGE THE WAY THE LINES FOR THE
00:00:53DISTRICTS FOR STATE AND FEDERAL
LAWMAKERS IN OHIO ARE DRAWN.
00:00:55BUT THAT DRIVE IS FACING A
CRUCIAL DEADLINE.
00:01:00ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO."
00:01:01CAPTIONED BY THE
NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE
00:01:04--WWW.NCICAP.ORG--
00:01:05>> SUMMER BREAK FOR STATE
LAWMAKERS IS WELL UNDERWAY, BUT
00:01:08GOV. JOHN KASICH IS STILL
WORKING HIS WAY THROUGH ALL THE
00:01:10LEGISLATION THEY SENT TO HIS
DESK BEFORE THEY LEFT.
00:01:13THIS WEEK, THE GOVERNOR WENT TO
CINCINNATI TO SIGN A SWEEPING
00:01:17EDUCATION BILL THAT SEEKS TO
STRENGTHEN TIES BETWEEN THE
00:01:22STATE'S EMPLOYERS AND PUBLIC
SCHOOLS AND MAKES DOZENS OF
00:01:25OTHER POLICY CHANGES, INCLUDING
CREATING A "THIRD GRADE READING
00:01:28GUARANTEE."
UNDER THAT PROVISION, THIRD-
00:01:30GRADERS WITH LAGGING READING
SKILLS FACE THE POSSIBILITY OF
00:01:32BEING HELD BACK FOR UP TO TWO
SCHOOL YEARS AS THEY GET
00:01:35ACADEMIC HELP.
THE MEASURE ALSO SETS ADJUSTED
00:01:39TRAINING AND RETESTING
REQUIREMENTS FOR TEACHERS WHO
00:01:41ARE DEEMED TO BE INEFFECTIVE
FOR TWO OF THE PREVIOUS THREE
00:01:44YEARS.
THE LEGISLATION ALSO REQUIRES
00:01:48ALL SPECIAL NEEDS STUDENTS TO
GET EYE EXAMS.
00:01:50ON WEDNESDAY, THE GOVERNOR
HEADED TO TOLEDO TO PUT HIS PEN
00:01:54TO A BILL THAT INCREASES
PENALTIES FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING
00:01:57AND CREATES A FUND TO HELP
VICTIMS.
00:01:58THE LAW, WHICH TAKES EFFECT
IMMEDIATELY, MAKES HUMAN
00:02:02TRAFFICKING A FIRST-DEGREE
FELONY, PUNISHABLE BY UP TO 15
00:02:05YEARS IN PRISON.
THAT'S TOUGHER THAN THE SECOND-
00:02:10DEGREE FELONY THAT THE STATE
LEGISLATURE ESTABLISHED IN LATE
00:02:122010 TO TACKLE WHAT'S DESCRIBED
AS MODERN-DAY SLAVERY.
00:02:14THE LAW ALSO CREATES A PATH FOR
VICTIMS TO HAVE THEIR RECORDS
00:02:18EXPUNGED IF THEY HAVE
PROSTITUTION OR SOLICITATION
00:02:21CHARGES AS A RESULT OF BEING
FORCED INTO THE SEX TRADE.
00:02:23IN BETWEEN THOSE PUBLIC EVENTS,
THE GOVERNOR SIGNED 13 OTHER
00:02:29BILLS, INCLUDING ONE TO EASE
EX-INMATES BACK INTO THE
00:02:32WORKFORCE AS COSMETOLOGISTS,
SALVAGE-YARD DEALERS AND
00:02:36CONSTRUCTION WORKERS BY
ELIMINATING BARRIERS CALLED
00:02:38"COLLATERAL SANCTIONS."
HE ALSO SIGNED LAWS TO PROHIBIT
00:02:41PEOPLE FROM ALTERING A VEHICLE
TO CREATE OR ADD A HIDDEN
00:02:45COMPARTMENT, TO REQUIRE SCRAP
METAL DEALERS TO TAKE A
00:02:49PHOTOGRAPH OF ANYONE WHO SELLS
THEM MATERIAL, AND TO TAKE THE
00:02:53FINAL STEP IN CHANGING THE
DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT BY
00:02:56RENAMING IT THE DEVELOPMENT
SERVICES AGENCY.
00:02:58DEMOCRATS ARE CHEERING THE
RESULTS OF AN INDEPENDENT POLL
00:03:01OF THREE SWING STATES, INCLUDING
OHIO.
00:03:03A QUINNIPIAC POLL SHOWS IN
OHIO, DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT
00:03:06BARACK OBAMA HAS 47 PERCENT
COMPARED TO 38% FOR REPUBLICAN
00:03:10MITT ROMNEY.
AND IN OHIO'S U.S. SENATE RACE,
00:03:13DEMOCRATIC INCUMBENT U.S. SEN.
SHERROD BROWN TOPS REPUBLICAN
00:03:17STATE TREASURER JOSH MANDEL 50%
TO 34%.
00:03:19THE QUINNIPIAC POLL IN MAY
SHOWED THE CANDIDATES JUST SIX
00:03:23POINTS APART.
BUT POLLSTER PETER BROWN ALSO
00:03:26NOTES THAT THE ELECTION IS MORE
THAN FOUR MONTHS AWAY, WHICH HE
00:03:29SAYS IS A LIFETIME IN POLITICS.
AND OF COURSE, THIS POLL WAS
00:03:33DONE BEFORE THE HISTORIC US
SUPREME COURT DECISION ON THE
00:03:35AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
BY NOW THAT RULING IS OLD NEWS.
00:03:39THE DECISION TO UPHOLD
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA'S HEALTH
00:03:43CARE OVERHAUL WAS ALL ANYONE IN
POLITICS WAS TALKING ABOUT ON
00:03:47THURSDAY, WITH REACTION COMING
IN FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY
00:03:49AND FROM ALL POLITICAL
PERSPECTIVES.
00:03:50OHIO HAS SOME 1.5 MILLION
UNINSURED PEOPLE, OR ABOUT 14%
00:03:54OF THE POPULATION. AND THE
ISSUE HAS BEEN VERY IMPORTANT
00:03:57IN OHIO.
LAST FALL VOTERS OVERWHELMINGLY
00:04:02APPROVED ISSUE 3, THE SO-CALLED
HEALTH CARE FREEDOM ACT, WHICH
00:04:05STATES THAT OHIOANS CAN OPT OUT
OF A GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE
00:04:08SYSTEM.
AND OHIO PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN
00:04:11THE CASE AGAINST THE LAW.
OHIO'S MIKE DEWINE WAS AMONG
00:04:13THE 26 ATTORNEYS GENERAL WHO
BROUGHT THE CASE TO THE HIGH
00:04:16COURT.
I ASKED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
00:04:19WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.
>> I THINK IT GOES RIGHT BACK
00:04:27INTO THE POLITICAL ARENA.
THIS IS A MAJOR CAMPAIGN ISSUE.
00:04:32IT WILL BE FOUGHT OUT IN THE
CAMPAIGN.
00:04:36THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL HAVE
THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON IT IN
00:04:40DEFAULT.
>> IS THAT WHERE YOU THINK IT
00:04:43BELONGS >> I THOUGHT IT WAS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
00:04:47THE SUPREME COURT AGREED WITH US
ON OUR ARGUMENT THAT IT WAS A
00:04:51VIOLATION OF THE COMMERCE
CLAUSE.
00:04:53WHAT WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE WAS
THAT THE SUPREME COURT, AFTER
00:05:02OBAMAS SAID IT WAS NOT A TAX,
AND AFTER THE LOWER COURT SAID
00:05:05IT WAS NOT A TAX, NOW FIVE
MEMBERS OF THE SUPREME COURT
00:05:11SAYS IT IS NOW A TAX.
>> WHAT HAPPENS IN THE OHIO
00:05:15SPECIFICALLY?
ESHOO 3 SAYS THE STATES WOULD
00:05:19NOT COME UP WITH A HEALTH CARE
SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE MANDATED
00:05:23FOR PARTICIPATION.
WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT NOW?
00:05:26>> THAT STAYS ON THE BOOKS.
IT MEANS NO FUTURE LEGISLATURE
00:05:33CAN PASS A LAW THAT VIOLATES
THAT IN THE STATE OF OHIO.
00:05:37WE CANNOT PREEMPT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, PARTICULARLY NOW
00:05:41THAT WE HAVE A FEDERAL -- A
SUPREME COURT DECISION THAT SAYS
00:05:46IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
>> THERE IS NOTHING IN ISSUE 3
00:05:52THAT PRESENTS A FEDERAL LAW FROM
BEING ENFORCED.
00:05:54>> WE FOUGHT THAT BATTLE IN THIS
COUNTRY IN THE 1860'S.
00:05:59WE WERE ON THE WINNING SIDE OF
THAT ONE.
00:06:02THE SUPREME COURT HAS SPOKEN.
IT GOES BACK INTO THE POLITICAL
00:06:07ARENA.
THERE IS NOTHING TO STOP A
00:06:10FUTURE CONGRESS OR PRESIDENT
FROM REPEALING THIS MANDATE.
00:06:12IT WAS A BIG VICTORY FOR OHIO
AND OTHER STATES TODAY IN
00:06:18REGARD TO MEDICAID.
WHAT THE SUPREME COURT SAID IS
00:06:23THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CANNOT
BLACKMAILED THE STATES AND
00:06:26COMPEL THEM TO EXPAND MEDICAID.
THE WAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
00:06:29WAS DOING THAT, THE BILL SAID TO
THE STATES, IF YOU DO NOT ACCEPT
00:06:37THIS EXPANSION OF MEDICAID, WE
ARE GOING TO TAKE AWAY ALL OF
00:06:43THE MEDICAID MONEY FROM YOU.
THE SUPREME COURT SAID THAT IS
00:06:48TO BANK FAR.
THAT IS BLACKMAIL AND YOU CANNOT
00:06:50DO THAT.
THAT WAS A REAL VICTORY.
00:06:54>> IN THE MEANTIME, IT GOES BACK
INTO THE POLITICAL ARENA TO BE
00:06:58THOUGHT OUT.
STATES ARE SETTING UP EXCHANGES.
00:07:03IS IT YOUR OPINION THAT OHIO
NEEDS TO SET UP AN EXCHANGE?
00:07:08>> I AM NOT GOING TO TELL THE
GOVERNOR OR THE LEGISLATURE WHAT
00:07:12TO DO.
IT'S THE QUESTION IS IF THERE IS
00:07:16ANYTHING LEFT TO DO LEGALLY, THE
ANSWER IS NO.
00:07:21THIS IS THE LAW OF THE LAND.
>> THIS IS THE LAW AND IT NEEDS
00:07:28TO BE FOLLOWED.
>> THIS IS A LOT OF THE LAND AND
00:07:31WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW.
-- LAW OF THE LAND AND WE HAVE
00:07:38TO FOLLOW THE LAW.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BILL
00:07:43PASSED ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS
WHERE WE FIX THE PROBLEMS WE
00:07:47HAVE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS
00:07:50IN THIS OBAMACARE BILL.
WE DETEST THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE
00:07:55AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DETEST
IT AND IT IS WRONG.
00:07:58THAT NEEDS TO BE REPEALED.
>> YOU WERE ON THE WINNING SIDE
00:08:04OF THIS ARGUMENT.
ARE YOU GLAD YOU TOOK THIS CASE
00:08:08TO THE SUPREME COURT AND GOT A
DEFINITIVE ANSWER?
00:08:12>> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
WHAT DID WE ACCOMPLISH?
00:08:15WE CLARIFIED THAT THEY CANNOT
PASS A LAW LIKE THIS PURSUANT TO
00:08:22THE COMMERCE CLAUSE.
THAT HAS HUGE IMPLICATIONS.
00:08:25FOR THE PROTECTION OF OUR
LIBERTY.
00:08:30THE SECOND IS MUCH MORE TANGIBLE
AND IMMEDIATE.
00:08:33THE STATE DOES NOT HAVE TO
ACCEPT THE NEW MEDICAID
00:08:38MANDATES.
WE CAN MAKE OUR OWN DECISION
00:08:41WITH REGARD TO THAT.
>> AMONG THE SUPPORTERS OF THE
00:08:47AFFORDABLE CARE AT ARE THE
MEMBERS OF THE COALITION OF
00:08:50OHIO.
REPUBLICAN OFFICEHOLDERS ARE
00:08:57SPEAKING OUT AND WORKING AGAINST
THE LAW.
00:09:00>> I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY
PEOPLE IN POLITICS AND PEOPLE
00:09:04WHO ARE IDEOLOGICAL HAVE TO
FIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING
00:09:07CONSTANTLY.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THREE
00:09:10YEARS.
IT IS ABOUT WHETHER YOU HAVE TO
00:09:14MAKE CHOICES THAT ARE
DIFFICULT, WHAT YOU GO BANKRUPT
00:09:17BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HEALTH
PROBLEM.
00:09:19THAT IS WHAT LED TO THIS, NOT
WHAT -- NOT ELECTING SOMEONE.
00:09:26I WISH PEOPLE WOULD COME -- CALM
DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
00:09:32>> THE IDEA COULD BE MADE THAT A
LOT OF OHIOANS DID NOT LIKE THE
00:09:43AFFORDABLE HEALTH-CARE LAW AND
THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT
00:09:46THE MANDATE.
>> I WAS RUNNING THE CAMPAIGN
00:09:51AGAINST ISSUE 3.
YOU COULD NOT RAISE MONEY
00:09:54BECAUSE EVERYBODY ACKNOWLEDGED
IT WAS A MEANINGLESS AMENDMENT.
00:09:58I COULD NOT CAMPAIGN AGAINST IT.
I GOT MAYBE $10,000 OR $15,000.
00:10:04IT WAS NOT A LOT OF MONEY.
THE WAY THE LANGUAGE WAS
00:10:09WRITTEN, SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT
THEY WERE VOTING FOR HEALTH CARE
00:10:16REFORM.
I DO NOT THINK THAT NECESSARILY
00:10:18IS WHAT IT MEANS.
QUITE FRANKLY, BATTLES ARE OVER.
00:10:23THE COURT HAS RULED.
PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR
00:10:27LEADERSHIP OUT OF WASHINGTON.
THEY ARE LOOKING FOR ADULT
00:10:30BEHAVIOR OUT OF OUR POLITICIANS.
IT IS TIME TO MEND FENCES AND
00:10:36MOVE ON AND GET PEOPLE
INSURANCE, WHICH IS WHAT IS
00:10:40NECESSARY IN THE STATE.
>> DOES THAT MEAN SETTING UP
00:10:44EXCHANGES?
>> WE HAVE THE KIND OF GOVERNOR
00:10:47WHO WAS HEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT
OF INSURANCE.
00:10:50HE HAS REFUSED TO SET UP AN
EXCHANGE.
00:10:53AN EXCHANGE IS A WEBSITE WHERE
YOU GO TO PRIVATE INSURANCE
00:10:57COMPANIES AND YOU GET TO CHOOSE
WHAT KIND OF INSURANCE YOU WANT
00:11:00TO HAVE FOR YOUR FAMILY.
IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.
00:11:03VARIOUS STATES ARE CONSERVATIVE
LIKE UTAH ARE CREATING
00:11:15EXCHANGES.
THIS IS POLITICIANS BEING
00:11:18POLITICIANS AND TRYING TO DIVIDE
THE PUBLIC AND HAVE THESE
00:11:21ARGUMENTS OVER AND OVER AND MIKE
DEWINE FILING MORE LAWSUITS.
00:11:29>> THIS IS GOING TO PLAY A ROLE
IN THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE.
00:11:32THERE IS TALK OF A REPEAL BE
VOTED ON SOON.
00:11:36THIS IS NOT OVER.
>> THEY WILL TRY TO MAKE IT A
00:11:40POLITICAL ISSUE.
YOU HAVE THE GUY WHO POLITIC --
00:11:45WHO INVENTED THE WHOLE SYSTEM IN
ROMANY RUNNING AGAINST PRESIDENT
00:11:50OBAMA.
HE CREATED ROMNEYCARE AND IS
00:11:56ADVOCATING AGAINST IT FOR THE
REST OF US.
00:11:58IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THE LEVEL
OF POLITICAL DISCOURSE AND THAT
00:12:04IT HAS GOTTEN TO BE ABSURD.
>> NOW AT THE END OF THE LEGAL
00:12:12ARGUMENTS HERE AND THE LEGAL
CASE, WITH YOUR SIDE BEEN THE
00:12:17WINNING SIDE, DO YOU THINK THIS
WAS A GOOD DECISION?
00:12:21>> I THINK IT WAS THE DECISION I
THOUGHT WOULD HAPPEN ALL ALONG.
00:12:25I WAS SURPRISED IT WAS JUSTICE
ROBERTS WHO WAS THE SWING OF
00:12:31VOTE AND NOT JUSTICE KENNEDY.
MEDICARE, MEDICAID, AND SOCIAL
00:12:37SECURITY ARE SIMILAR PROGRAMS.
THERE ARE STILL SOME PEOPLE ARE
00:12:42STILL ARGUING THEY WANT TO GET
WITH IT -- GET RID OF THE INCOME
00:12:47TAX SYSTEM AND NOT HAVE INCOME
TAXES.
00:12:49I THINK IT IS IRONIC THAT A LOT
OF CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE AGAINST
00:12:57TRADITIONAL -- JUDICIAL ACTIVISM
WERE ARGUING FOR THE COURT TO
00:13:07VOTE AND GET SOMETHING THAT WAS
PASSED.
00:13:09THE BOTTOM LINE FOR PEOPLE IS
THIS IS ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO IS
00:13:15SICK AND ABOUT WHETHER YOU GO
BANKRUPT BECAUSE YOU ARE SICK
00:13:19AND WHETHER YOU HAVE THE SAME
ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE AS OTHER
00:13:22PEOPLE.
THE MORE WE AS ADULTS BRING IT
00:13:25BACK TO THAT, THE MORE
POLITICIANS WILL START ACTING
00:13:28MORE ADULT.
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00:13:40>> INCIDENTALLY, A QUINNIPIAC
SWING STATE POLL LAST MONTH
00:13:42SHOWED MORE THAN HALF OF OHIO
VOTERS WANTED THE SUPREME COURT
00:13:44TO STRIKE DOWN THE LAW.
DEWINE SAID OHIO'S INVOLVEMENT
00:13:46IN OPPOSITION TO THE AFFORDABLE
CARE ACT WILL CONTINUE IN A
00:13:47LAWSUIT DISPUTING THE LAW ON THE
GROUNDS IT COMPELS PEOPLE TO
00:13:49VIOLATE THEIR RELIGIOUS
PRINCIPLES.
00:13:50OVER THE YEARS, THERE HAS BEEN A
LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THE
00:13:52WAY THE BOUNDARIES FOR
LAWMAKERS' DISTRICTS ARE DRAWN
00:13:55IN OHIO.
THE OHIO GENERAL ASSEMBLY DRAWS
00:13:57THE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT
LINES, AND A FIVE-MEMBER
00:13:59APPORTIONMENT BOARD CREATES THE
BOUNDARIES FOR STATE HOUSE AND
00:14:01SENATE DISTRICTS.
THE LAST ROUND OF REDISTRICTING
00:14:04WAS BITTER AND PROTRACTED.
LAST YEAR, STATE LAWMAKERS
00:14:07BRIEFLY CREATED TWO SEPARATE
PRIMARIES FOR THIS YEAR BECAUSE
00:14:10OF A SPAT OVER THE WAY THE
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT MAP WAS
00:14:13DRAWN, BUT EVENTUALLY CAME TO A
DEAL TO MERGE THE PRIMARIES
00:14:17INTO ONE IN MARCH.
WHILE THAT SETTLED THE PRIMARY
00:14:21ISSUE, IT DIDN'T RESOLVE
CONCERNS OVER THE MAP-DRAWING
00:14:23PROCESS.
DEMOCRATS HAD SUED OVER THAT
00:14:27MAP, AND REDISTRICTING EXPERTS
HOWLED WHEN PUBLIC DOCUMENTS
00:14:30SHOWED THAT U.S. HOUSE SPEAKER
JOHN BOEHNER OF CINCINNATI
00:14:33PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN HOW THE
MAP WAS CONSTRUCTED.
00:14:35AND THE MAP ITSELF IS
CONSIDERED BY ITS OPPONENTS TO
00:14:41BE ONE OF THE MOST EGREGIOUS
EXAMPLES OF GERRYMANDERING IN
00:14:45RECENT HISTORY.
THE CONGRESSIONAL MAP IS THOUGHT
00:14:48TO FAVOR REPUBLICANS 12-4, IN A
STATE WHERE THE REPUBLICAN AND
00:14:50DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES FOR
GOVERNOR WERE JUST TWO
00:14:56PERCENTAGE POINTS APART.
FOR THE PROCESS TO CHANGE,
00:14:58VOTERS HAVE TO WEIGH IN.
AND ALL THE WRANGLING OVER THE
00:15:01MAPS HAS CREATED THE LATEST
CAMPAIGN TO TRY TO COME UP WITH
00:15:04A NEW WAY TO DRAW THE MAPS.
A GROUP CALLING ITSELF VOTERS
00:15:06FIRST HAS DRAFTED A
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT
00:15:12THEY SAY WOULD "ENSURE OHIO
VOTER'S RIGHT TO FAIR AND
00:15:14COMPETITIVE ELECTIONS BY
CREATING A NON-PARTISAN,
00:15:17INDEPENDENT CITIZENS COMMISSION
THAT WILL DRAW OHIO'S
00:15:19LEGISLATIVE AND CONGRESSIONAL
BOUNDARIES OUT IN THE OPEN FOR
00:15:22ALL OF US TO SEE."
THE VOTERS FIRST AMENDMENT
00:15:26WOULD PROHIBIT POLITICIANS,
LOBBYISTS AND POLITICAL INSIDERS
00:15:28FROM SITTING ON THIS CITIZENS'
COMMISSION.
00:15:31AND THIS PETITION DRIVE HAS
BROUGHT OUT AN ENDORSEMENT THAT
00:15:35SOME MIGHT FIND SURPRISING.
THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF OHIO IS
00:15:37BACKING IT.
BUT THE CLOCK IS TICKING.
00:15:39THE COALITION HAS UNTIL JULY 4
TO COLLECT SIGNATURES TO GET
00:15:43THE AMENDMENT ONTO THIS FALL'S
BALLOT.
00:15:44HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE VOTERS
FIRST INITIATIVE ARE CATHERINE
00:15:51TURCER IS THE CHAIR OF VOTERS
FIRST.
00:15:52AND KEVIN KNEDLER IS THE
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE CHAIR OF THE
00:15:54LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF OHIO.
>> CATHERINE TURCER, I WILL
00:16:02START WITH YOU.
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS ISSUE
00:16:05SO MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS.
THE VOTERS HAD A CHANCE TO
00:16:09DECIDE HOW THIS DISTRICT WAS
DRAWN.
00:16:11THEY CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT.
WHY NOW?
00:16:15>> THIS IS A NEW YEAR.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK BACK
00:16:19AT WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR.
THE DISTRICT LINES WERE
00:16:24MANIPULATED.
THE MANIPULATION OF THOSE
00:16:27DISTRICT LINES IS A MANIPULATION
OF VOTERS.
00:16:30THIS IS THE TIME TO CHANGE IT.
WE ARE WELL EDUCATED AND WE CAN
00:16:35SEE WHAT GOES ON.
THIS IS ALL THE WAY FROM TOLEDO
00:16:40TO CLEVELAND.
YOU COULD LIVE IN FRANKLIN
00:16:44COUNTY AND YOUR NEIGHBOR COULD
BE IN THREE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
00:16:47WE WANT DISTRICTS TO BE FAIR SO
THAT WE ARE ALL WELL
00:16:51REPRESENTATIVE -- WELL
REPRESENTED.
00:16:55>> BRIAN ROTHENBERG, THE
LIBERTARIAN PARTY HAS WEIGHED
00:17:05IN ON THIS.
WHY IS YOUR POLITICAL PARTY
00:17:09GETTING INVOLVED?
>> I WILL TRY NOT TO USE
00:17:12ANALOGIES AND CLICHES.
I DO NOT THINK IT IS GETTING
00:17:17BETTER WITH THE TWO PARTY SYSTEM
WE HAVE.
00:17:19BOTH PARTIES ARE FROM THE 19TH
CENTURY.
00:17:23SOMEWHERE DOWN THE PRIORITY LIST
IS THE VOTER AND THE
00:17:27CONSIDERATION OF VOTER FREEDOM
RIGHTS.
00:17:30WE HAVE FOUGHT THREE LAWSUITS TO
GET ON THE BALLOT.
00:17:36VERY ENTRENCHED PARTIES HERE IN
OHIO.
00:17:42WE SAW THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
STAND UP AND SAY, WE NEED TO PUT
00:17:47THE VOTERS FIRST.
IT IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT
00:17:51DIRECTION.
IT IS TIME FOR CITIZENS IN OHIO
00:17:53TO HAVE A VOICE.
VOTER REGISTRATION FOR THE MAJOR
00:18:02PARTIES IS DECLINING.
THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY
00:18:05REGISTRATION IS UP.
INDEPENDENT VOTERS ARE
00:18:09INDEPENDENT FOR A REASON.
THEY ARE NOT PART OF A MARKETING
00:18:12MACHINE.
THEY WANT A VOICE.
00:18:14THE CINCINNATI REDS ARE PLAYING
A BASKETBALL -- A BASEBALL GAME.
00:18:22THEY GET TO PICK THE RULES AND
THEY GET TO A UMPIRES.
00:18:26THAT IS KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE.
WE HAVE THE REPUBLICANS AND
00:18:30DEMOCRATS SETTING THE RULES FOR
DISTRICTING.
00:18:33WE FIND THAT IS NOT A GOOD
SITUATION.
00:18:37>> DID YOU REACH OUT TO THE
REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC PARTY
00:18:41TO ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD LIKE
TO JOIN THIS EFFORT?
00:18:45>> WE REACHED OUT TO A LOT OF
DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
00:18:47A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS HAVE
ENDORSED US LIKE THE COUNSEL OF
00:18:53CHOICE -- THE COUNCIL OF
CHURCHES, THE SIERRA CLUB.
00:18:57ORGANIZATIONS HAVE COME ON
RECENTLY TO SAY, WE HAVE TO HAVE
00:19:03THE VOTERS TAKE PRIORITIES.
THE RIGGING OF THE SYSTEM -- THE
00:19:11FOXES ARE IN CHARGE OF THE HEN
HOUSE.
00:19:17>> HAVE ANY DEMOCRAT OR
REPUBLICAN CONCERNED ABOUT THE
00:19:23-- REPUBLICANS CONCERNED ABOUT
THE MAP?
00:19:31>> SOME HAVE.
IT IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT
00:19:37FOR THE REPUBLICANS.
IN A WINNER TAKE ALL SYSTEM, THE
00:19:42WINNERS LIKE THE SYSTEM.
WE HAVE HAD DIFFICULTY GETTING
00:19:45REPUBLICANS ON BOARD.
THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF FOLKS WHO
00:19:49SEE THIS AS IMPORTANT.
THOSE FOLKS IN THE BACK ROOMS,
00:19:53THAT IS A MINORITY SECTION OF
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
00:19:56MOST FOLKS WOULD AGREE, YOU DO
NOT NEED TO HAVE A FINGER ON THE
00:20:02SCALE.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO THAT.
00:20:04IF YOUR ISSUES ARE GOOD, THEY
WILL RISE.
00:20:08PEOPLE OF ALL PARTIES AGREE.
>> KEVIN, YOU MIGHT LOOK AT THIS
00:20:16SKEPTICALLY AT AND SAY THE
LIBERTARIAN PARTY IS TRYING TO
00:20:20BREAK INTO THE TWO PARTY SYSTEM
THAT THEY HAVE TROUBLE GETTING
00:20:24INTO.
IS THIS SOMETHING YOU AS A
00:20:28LIBERTARIAN CAN LOOK AT AND
SUPPORT, OR IS THIS A WAY TO GET
00:20:31ON THE BALLOT?
>> IT IS PRINCIPAL.
00:20:34IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
WE HAVE TO DO THIS.
00:20:42THIS IS OUT OF CONTROL.
THE TEA PARTIERS COLLUDING
00:20:46TOGETHER TO PREVENT
COMPETITION, -- TWO PARTIES
00:20:52COLLUDING TOGETHER TO PREVENT
COMPETITION.
00:20:55TWO GROUPS GET TOGETHER TO SET
UP DISTRICT.
00:20:58IT DOES NOT PERMITTED IN THE
TRADE, IN BUSINESS.
00:21:02PUT ASIDE THAT I AM WITH THE
LIBERTARIAN PARTY.
00:21:06MANY PEOPLE I SPEAK WITH BELIEVE
THIS IS BEHIND.
00:21:11WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS YEARS
AGO.
00:21:13INDEPENDENT VOTERS COME TOGETHER
WITH MEMBERS OF PARTIES TO HELP
00:21:17SET DISTRICTING.
IT SHOULD NOT BE SET BETWEEN TWO
00:21:22GROUPS.
>> YOU HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF
00:21:25SUPPORT AND EDITORIALS THAT HAVE
BEEN WRITTEN IN FAVOR OF THIS.
00:21:29YOU ARE ALSO IN A BALANCED
SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO
00:21:33GET LOST IN ALL THE NOISE IN THE
PRESIDENTIAL AND U.S. SENATE
00:21:37RACES.
HOW DO YOU REACH OUT TO VOTERS
00:21:40AND CONVINCE THEM TO VOTE YES?
IT IS A CHALLENGE IN A BUSY
00:21:45ELECTION YEAR.
>> THIS IS A BOOTHS -- BOOTS ON
00:21:55THE GROUND KIND OF THING.
BUT I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS THE
00:21:59IDEA THAT WE WANT OUR VOTED TO
BE MEANINGFUL.
00:22:02WE WANT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO
BE ACCOUNTABLE.
00:22:07THIS IS EASIER TO SAY WE WANT
OUR VOTES TO MEAN SOMETHING.
00:22:12ALL KINDS OF FOLKS ARE COMING
TOGETHER TO SAY, LET'S GET THAT
00:22:16MESSAGE OUT.
>> ISN'T THE PROBLEM BEYOND THE
00:22:21WAY THE MAP IS DRAWN?
THE TWO PARTIES ARE WELL FUNDED
00:22:29AND FINANCED.
SHOULDN'T WE BE GOING AFTER
00:22:32CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAWS?
>> CAMPAIGN FINANCE IS ONE
00:22:37ASPECT.
THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS IS
00:22:40ANOTHER ONE.
YOU HAVE THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS,
00:22:46DUE TO REPUBLICANS, TWO
DEMOCRATS.
00:22:47-- TWO REPUBLICANS AND TWO
DEMOCRATS.
00:22:53WHY EARNED THERE -- AREN'T
THERE INDEPENDENT VOTERS ON THAT
00:23:04BOARD?
THIS IS A PIECE OF A LARGER
00:23:10PUZZLE.
IT IS BOARD OF ELECTIONS AND
00:23:15BALLOT ACCESS.
>> THIS IS A BID, SYSTEMIC
00:23:19CHANGE.
IT DOES NOT ADDRESS OTHER ISSUES
00:23:21LIKE THE MONEY IN POLITICS.
HE KNOW ABOUT THE CITIZENS
00:23:26UNITED DECISION AND FOLKS IN
MONTANA SAYING NO.
00:23:29WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT
DIFFERENTLY.
00:23:33THE COURT SAID FREE SPEECH IS
THE NAME OF THE GAME AND AND
00:23:42FREE SPEECH IS EQUIVALENT TO
MONEY.
00:23:43TACKLING CAMPAIGN FINANCE THIS
YEAR WOULD BE TOUGH.
00:23:52DEALING WITH DISTRICTING IS
SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
00:23:56WE CAN MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR
THE CITIZENS OF OHIO.
00:23:59BUT YOU HAVE UNTIL WEDNESDAY,
JULY 4.
00:24:03YOU COULD MAKE SOME ARGUMENTS
ABOUT INDEPENDENCE DAY.
00:24:06WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DO NOT MAKE
IT?
00:24:08>> THE WAY IT WORKS IS MUCH
LIKE OTHER BALLOT CAMPAIGNS.
00:24:13THE SCHISM -- THE SIGNATURES DO
NOT GO BAD.
00:24:16YOU CAN FILE LATER.
OUR PLAN IS TO DO OUR FILING ON
00:24:21THE FOURTH OF JULY.
BUT SO THERE IS NO PLAN B IF YOU
00:24:27DO NOT GET THE SIGNATURES.
>> CLEARLY, THERE IS A PLAN B.
00:24:33IT IS TRUE THAT I AM AND
OPTIMIST.
00:24:36WE ARE PICKING THE FOURTH OF
JULY.
00:24:41>> ONE FINAL QUESTION.
IF THIS DOES GET ON THE BALLOT,
00:24:4912 MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION
WOULD BE SELECTED BY SUPREME
00:24:51COURT JUDGES THROUGHOUT THE
STATE AND THE PARTIES COULD
00:24:54THROW OUT CERTAIN PEOPLE.
THAT IS HOW YOU PROTECT THE
00:24:58COMMISSION FROM BEING
POLITICALLY MOTIVATED.
00:25:00HOW WOULD PEOPLE GET ON THAT
COMMISSION?
00:25:02>> YOU JUST APPLY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS -- ONE
00:25:09OF THE EXCITING THINGS IS THAT
ANY OF THE PEOPLE WATCHING COULD
00:25:13ACTUALLY BE ON THE COMMISSION.
YES, THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WILL
00:25:17CONTINUE.
>> THAT WOULD REDRAW THE
00:25:25DISTRICT LINES UNTIL WE TEAR?
>> 2014.
00:25:29BUT ABOUT THIS.
WE WANT YOU TO GET EXCITED ABOUT
00:25:32MAKING THINGS FAIR.
WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS NOW.
00:25:37WE NEED A FAIR SYSTEM NOW.
>> CATHERINE TURCER AND KEVIN
00:25:44KNEDLER FROM THE LIBERTARIAN
PARTY OF OHIO.
00:25:49>> AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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