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00:00:00>> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
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00:00:32>> SETTING OFF A SCRAMBLE TO
REWRITE WHAT VOTERS WILL SEE ON
00:00:36THE BOUT.
AND CHATTER SCHOOLS, TAX CHANGES
00:00:40AND BIG DENIALS.
ALL THOSE THINGS COMING UP IN
00:00:44THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
A HIGH ENERGY DISCUSSION OF ALL
00:00:46THE STATEHOUSE STUFF ON THE
HORIZON.
00:00:49ALL THIS WEEKEND, "STATE OF
OHIO."
00:01:01>> THE GROUP BACKING ISSUE 3
SCORED A WIN IN THE SUPREME
00:01:04COURT THIS WEEK.
THE JUDGES RULED PART OF THE
00:01:09VOTING DESCRIBING RESPONSIBLE
OHIO'S PROPOSAL TO LEGALIZE
00:01:13MARIJUANA ALONG WITH 10 GROWING
SITES IN A SYSTEM OF REGULATION
00:01:16AND TAX IS MISLEADING.
THE BALLOT BOARD REVISING
00:01:22SECTIONS ABOUT FOUR POINTS.
WHERE RETAIL OPENS CAN OPEN IN
00:01:27RELATION TO PLACES OF WORSHIP.
THEN ADULTS WHO WANT TO GROW
00:01:31THEIR OWN MARIJUANA HAVE TO HAVE
STATE-ISSUED LICENSES.
00:01:36BUT RETAIL STORES ALSO MUST HAVE
LICENSES AND VOTER APPROVED
00:01:40OPTIONS TO OPERATE.
AND THAT MORE GROWING SITES MAY
00:01:43BE OPEN ONLY IF THE EXISTING
ONES CANNOT MEET DEMAND.
00:01:47FRIDAY MORNING AFTER THE BALLOT
BOARD AGREED ON THE NEW
00:01:51LANGUAGE, RESPONSIBLE OHIO'S
ATTORNEY ANDY DOUGLAS TOLD JO
00:01:59INGLES THIS WAS A SLAM DUNK
CASE.
00:02:01>> THIS WAS SO OBVIOUS THAT IT'S
THE ONLY REASON I GOT INVOLVED
00:02:04IN THE CASE BECAUSE IT WAS
PRETTY CLEAR THAT WHAT THEY HAD
00:02:07DONE IN MY JUDGMENT WAS
INTENTIONAL.
00:02:12IT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN
INADVERTENT OR BY MISTAKE GIVEN
00:02:16THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN THE
AMENDMENT AND WHAT THEY
00:02:20SUBMITTED PLAY SIDE BY SIDE.
YOU COULDN'T HAVE ARRIVED THERE
00:02:25INADVERTENTLY.
>> BUT RESPONSIBLE OHIO ALSO
00:02:27SUED OVER THE TITLE THAT APPEARS
ABOVE THE ISSUE ON THE BALLOT
00:02:30BECAUSE IT INCLUDES THE WORD
MONOPOLY.
00:02:33THE COURT SAID THAT TITLE CAN
STAY AS IS.
00:02:36SECRETARY OF STATE HOUSTON HAD
SPOKEN OUT AGAINST ISSUE 3 SAID
00:02:42THAT WAS A BIG WIN FOR HIM.
>> IT IS A MONOPOLY.
00:02:45IT NEEDED TO BE DESCRIBED AS
SUCH SO THAT THE VOTERS HAVE A
00:02:52CLEAR UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THEIR
CHOICE THAT IS BEFORE THEM.
00:02:54AND THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT
ISSUE TO ME BECAUSE IT WAS --
00:02:59THERE WAS AN EFFORT TO TRY TO
CONCEAL THAT FACT FROM THE
00:03:05VOTERS AND I WANTED TO ENLIGHTEN
EVERYBODY TO SHINE THE LIGHT ON
00:03:08THE FACT THAT IT IS A MONOPOLY.
>> THE RUSH IS ON BECAUSE
00:03:12MILITARY VOTING BEGIN THIS
WEEKEND.
00:03:14LAST WEEK, IT WAS HILLARY
CLINTON IN OHIO.
00:03:17THIS WEEKEND, THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL
BROUGHT JOE BIDEN TO OHIO STATE
00:03:21UNIVERSITY IN COLUMBUS.
WHERE HE TALKED ABOUT FEDERAL
00:03:24EFFORTS TO PREVENT SEXUAL
ASSAULT ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES.
00:03:26AND WHILE THERE WAS HOPE AMONG
HIS SUPPORTSERS THAT HE MIGHT
00:03:30HINT THAT HE WILL JOIN THE
DEMOCRATIC RACE FOR PRESIDENT,
00:03:33BIDEN DIDN'T MAKE ANY MENTION OF
IT.
00:03:35THE OHIO SUPREME COURT SAYS
EQUIPMENT BOUGHT WITH STATE
00:03:38FUNDS BY OPERATORS HIRED TO RUN
CHARTER SCHOOLS BELONGS TO THE
00:03:43OPERATORS AND IF THE SCHOOLS
WANT THAT EQUIPMENT, THEY HAVE
00:03:45TO BUY IT BACK.
THE CASE HAS A LAWSUIT BY 10
00:03:51NORTHEAST OHIO CHARTER SCHOOLS.
OWNED BY DAVID BRENNAN, A
00:03:56REPUBLICAN SUPPORTER AND BIG
DONOR.
00:03:58THE JUSTICE FOCUSED THEIR
DECISION ON THE CONTRACT BETWEEN
00:04:01WHITE HAT AND THE CHARTER
SCHOOL.
00:04:04THE CONTRACTS WERE ENTERED INTO
VOLUNTARILY AND THEREFORE THOSE
00:04:08CONTRACTS WERE ENFORBESABLE.
THERE WERE TWO DESCENTS NOTABLE
00:04:12IN THEIR STRONG LANGUAGE
BLASTING BOTH WHITE HAT AND THE
00:04:15COURT'S DECISION.
JUSTICE PAUL PIPER WROTE THAT
00:04:18THE DECISION WENT OUT OF ITS WAY
TO SUPPORT THE INSUPPORTABLE AND
00:04:23JUSTICE BILL O'NEAL WROTE THAT
THE JUDGMENT REWARDS FAILURE AND
00:04:28ENCOURAGES ITS REPETITION IN THE
FUTURE IN THE NAME OF PROFIT.
00:04:31AND IT WAS A TOUGH WEEK AT THE
OHIO DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION THE
00:04:36STATE SCHOOL BOARD LAUNCHED INTO
HOURS OF TEN QUESTIONING AGAINST
00:04:40THE SUPERINTENDENT.
HE DEFEND HIS RESPONSE TO
00:04:44REVELATIONS THAT THE CHIEF
MILTED FAILING GRADES.
00:04:50HE REDESIGNED IN JULY AFTER
ADMITTING IT WAS HIS DECISION TO
00:04:54LEAVE OFF THE GRADES AND
THOUSANDS OF E-MAILS RELEASED
00:04:57THROUGH JOURNALISTS SEEM TO
SUPPORT THAT.
00:05:00DEMOCRATS ON THE STATE COOL
BOARD HAVE CALLED FOR AN
00:05:03INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
AND PARK SMITH WHO ALSO HAS
00:05:08DEFEND ROSS REDESIGNED IN THE
STATE SCHOOL BOARD BLAMING A
00:05:13BUSY TRAVEL CONSENT STATE
LAWMAKERS ARE COMING TO WORK
00:05:19SOON.
AND NEXT YEAR'S PRESIDENTIAL
00:05:21CONTEST WILL BE DISCUSSED.
HERE TO PREDICT WHAT THEY WILL
00:05:24AND WON'T TAKE UP AND WHAT THEY
SHOULD ARE TWO EXPERTS IN STATE
00:05:27GOVERNMENT AND STATEHOUSE
ISSUES.
00:05:32CARRIE MCCARNEY OF PROGRESSIVE
THINK TANK.
00:05:36HE IS A FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF IN
THE OHIO HOUSE.
00:05:40AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE OHIO
RIGHT TO LIFE AND AN ACTIVIST
00:05:43AND STRATEGIST.
HE'S FORMER SENIOR DEPUTY
00:05:47ATTORNEY GENERAL UNDER JIM
PIETRO.
00:05:50WELCOME TO BOTH.
WE ARE RECORDING THIS, THE DAY
00:05:54AFTER THE SECOND REPUBLICAN
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES' DEBATE.
00:05:59I WANT TO ASK YOU GOVERNOR
KASICH HAD LESS THAN 10 MINUTES
00:06:04OF TALK TIME.
DONALD TRUMP HAD 18 MINUTES AND
00:06:0647 SECONDS.
AND GOD KNOWS HOW LONG MODERATOR
00:06:10JAY TAPPER HAD.
HOW DO YOU THINK HE DID?
00:06:15LET'S START WITH YOU.
>> I THOUGHT HE HELD HIS GROUND
00:06:18WELL.
HE DIDN'T HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF
00:06:21THE HOMETOWN CROWD BUT ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT STOOD OUT TO ME
00:06:25IS THE EXCHANGE HE HAD WITH TED
CRUZ.
00:06:27I THOUGHT GOVERNOR KASICH MADE A
VERY SMART AND REASONABLE
00:06:31DEFENSE OF WHY WE SHOULD KEEP
THE IRAN DEAL IN PLACE AND THAT
00:06:34WAS IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO STAND
OUT.
00:06:37AND I REALLY APPRECIATED HIS
THOUGHT ON HIS RESPONSE.
00:06:41KAREN: GO AHEAD.
>> I THINK GETS AN INCOMPLETE
00:06:45GRADE NOT BECAUSE OF WHAT HE DID
OR DIDN'T SAY.
00:06:47HE DIDN'T GET ENOUGH TIME TO
ARTICULATE HIS MESSAGE.
00:06:51CNN WON THE DEBATE LAST NIGHT.
THEY HAD RECORD-BREAKING
00:06:55RATINGS.
JOHN KASICH HAS FANTASTIC
00:06:57MESSAGE AS EVIDENCED BY THE
FIRST DEBATE AND HE DIDN'T GET
00:06:59THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT OUT
THERE.
00:07:01HOPEFULLY, HE'LL LEARN SOME
STRATEGIES IN THE OCTOBER DEBATE
00:07:04TO GET HIS VOICE OUT THERE MORE
BECAUSE HE HAS A COMPELLING
00:07:08MESSAGE FOR AMERICANS TO HEAR.
KAREN: IN THREE HOURS, HE HAD
00:07:10LESS THAN 10 MINUTES.
>> ISN'T THAT AMAZING?
00:07:13KAREN: LET'S MOVE FORWARD NOW
AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
00:07:16STATEHOUSE ISSUES.
CHARTER SCHOOLS.
00:07:20FIRST OF ALL, THE OHIO SUPREME
COURT RULED ON A CASE THAT WAS
00:07:21ARGUED ALMOST A YEAR AGO FROM A
LAWSUIT FILED BY 10 NORTHEAST
00:07:27SCHOOLS.
THE COURT ISSUED A VERY NARROW
00:07:30DECISION AND DEALT WITH THE
CONTRACT ISSUES HERE AND SAID
00:07:33THAT CHARTER SCHOOL OPERATORS
OWN THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY BUY
00:07:36WITH STATE FUNDS AND CHARTER
SCHOOLS HAVE TO BUY THAT
00:07:39EQUIPMENT BACK IF THEY WANT IT
BACK.
00:07:40THEY DIDN'T ISSUE ANYTHING ON
PUBLIC MONEY, TRANCE PARTICIPATE
00:07:45SI, ANYTHING.
-- TRANSPARENCY OR ANYTHING.
00:07:50WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE.
00:07:53I THINK THIS CASE REALLY
UNDERSCORES THE PROBLEMS THAT WE
00:07:57HAVE WITH OUR CHARTER SCHOOL
LAWS IN THE STATE OF OHIO.
00:08:00THE IDEA THAT A FOR-PROFIT
OPERATOR CAN MAKE MILLIONS OUT
00:08:04OF -- THROUGH TAXPAYER DOLLARS
AND HAVE A VERY POOR PERFORMANCE
00:08:08RECORD IS SOMETHING THAT THE
LEGISLATURE NEEDS TO ADDRESS.
00:08:11AND I THOUGHT THE IDEA -- THE
RULING IN THIS CASE WHERE
00:08:14CHARTER SCHOOLS GET TO KEEP THE
EQUIPMENT, THE COMPUTER, THE
00:08:17COPIERS THAT IS PURCHASED WITH
TAXPAYER MONEY AND CONTINUE TO
00:08:21PROFIT FROM OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION
SYSTEM IS A REAL CONCERN.
00:08:24AND I THINK THE LEGISLATURE
NEEDS TO GET BUSY WORKING ON
00:08:27SOME SERIOUS REFORM EFFORT IN
THAT WAY.
00:08:29KAREN: AND THEY DID KICK IT BACK
TO THE LEGISLATURE IN SEVERAL
00:08:32INSTANCE HERE, RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
00:08:34IN REGARDS TO YOUR OPINION ON
CHARTER SCHOOLS, THE COURT DID
00:08:36THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE THERE'S
NO LAW ON THE BOOK ABOUT WHAT'S
00:08:41SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AS PROPERTY.
THEY SAID HEY, THEY GET TO KEEP
00:08:45BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE, HE
NEVER CONTEMPLATED THIS.
00:08:48THEY COME BACK HERE IN THE NEXT
WEEK.
00:08:52MAYBE THAT COULD BE ADDED TO
DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE.
00:08:55THE LAW IS SIGN ON WHAT DO WITH
THIS PROPERTY.
00:08:58KAREN: COULDN'T THE COURT HAVE
WEIGHED IN AND SAY THAT THESE
00:09:01ARE THE ISSUES THAT THEY WANT TO
TAKE UP.
00:09:05ARE YOU SURPRISED THEY DIDN'T
STEP IN?
00:09:07WILL ARE SOME WHO SAY WHY WOULD
THEY STEP IN?
00:09:09>> I BELIEVE IN THE INSTITUTION.
THEY -- CONSTITUTION THEY PUT IT
00:09:14BACK TO THE DOORSTEP OF THE
LEGISLATURE.
00:09:16WE'RE TO THE LEGISLATURE.
WE'RE THE COURT.
00:09:19SO THAT -- THEY HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY FIX IT.
00:09:22KAREN: WHAT PEOPLE WANTED TO SEE
SOME CLARITY ON AND WANTED THE
00:09:25COURT TO STEP IN FOR FEAR THAT
LAWMAKERS WON'T.
00:09:27>> RIGHT.
YOU HAVE SEEN THE INFLUENCE THAT
00:09:30THESE FOR-PROFIT CHARTER SCHOOLS
OPERATORS HAVE AND REALLY, ALL
00:09:35THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT.
THERE IS A REAL GUT CHECK TIME
00:09:37IN OHIO RIGHT NOW FOR HOW WE'RE
GOING TO APPROACH FOR-PROFIT
00:09:40CHARTER OPERATORS IN OHIO.
AND YES, THE LEGISLATURE IS COME
00:09:45BACK.
WE'RE OPTIMISTIC THAT THEY WILL
00:09:47TAKE HOUSE BILL 2 BUT THERE'S A
WHOLE LOT OF WORK LEFT TO DO TO
00:09:51MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT CORRUPTING
OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM.
00:09:54>> THAT'S WHERE THESE DEBATES
SHOULD BE GOING ON, NOT THE
00:09:57COURT.
AMERICANS AND OHIOANS ARE -- THE
00:10:00GOOD THING IN HOUSE BILL TWO IS
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.
00:10:05>> BUT YOU HAVE TO AGREE WHEN
THE COURTS MAKE A DECISION THAT
00:10:09DEFIES LOGIC, THERE'S GOING TO
BE SOME QUESTIONS.
00:10:12YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT.
>> THAT'S WHERE THE LEGISLATURE
00:10:15COMES IN AND FIXES IT.
>> HOPEFULLY THEY WILL.
00:10:17KAREN: I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE
BILL IN JUST A MINUTE BUT LET ME
00:10:22TALK ABOUT THE CHILD SUPPORT
SCHOOL SITUATION WITH REGARD TO
00:10:24THE FORMER SCHOOL CHOICE CHIEF
DAVID HANSON WHO REDESIGNED
00:10:28WATCH ADMITTING IT WAS HIS
DECISION TO ELIMINATE FAILING
00:10:33GRADES OF DROPOUT RECOVERY
CHARTER SCHOOLS.
00:10:36THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS
ABOUT IT.
00:10:39DICK ROSS SAID HE HAS SAID HE
WASN'T INVOLVED.
00:10:43GOVERNOR KASICH SAYS HE STANDS
BEHIND HIM.
00:10:46KERRY, DO YOU THINK DEMOCRATS
ARE CALLING FOR AN
00:10:50INVESTIGATION?
>> ABSOLUTELY THERE NEEDS TO BE
00:10:53AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
I MEAN, THERE IS TOO MANY THINGS
00:10:57WRONG WITH THIS SITUATION.
ONE, YOU'VE GOT THE CHIEF
00:11:00CHEATER SCHOOL OVERSEER WHO
ACKNOWLEDGED HE VIOLATED THE
00:11:05LAW.
SOME HAVE SAID THE LAW WAS NOT
00:11:07IMPLEMENTED AND IT DOESN'T
MATTER.
00:11:09BUT WHAT WE SAW THROUGH THOSE
PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST THAT
00:11:12THERE WAS A CONSPIRACY THAT
COVER-UP.
00:11:16THERE IS ENOUGH THERE IN WHICH
IF -- IF IT WAS MY
00:11:20ADMINISTRATION, I WOULD WANT
SOMEBODY FROM OUTSIDE OF IT TO
00:11:22COME IN, TAKE A LOOK, CLEAN IT
UP AND MOVE FORWARD.
00:11:25THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE AND IT'S
NOT GOING AWAY ANY TIME SOON.
00:11:28>> WE HAVE TWO INVESTIGATIONS
GOING ON.
00:11:31THE STATE AUDITOR INVESTIGATING
100,000 DOCUMENTS AND THE
00:11:35INSPECTOR GENERAL INVESTIGATION.
DAVE YOST WILL DO HIS JOB.
00:11:43SO WE HAVE A SEPARATE BRANCH
HERE.
00:11:46WE HAVE THE AUDITOR DULY ELECTED
BY THE PEOPLE OF OHIO TO
00:11:51INVESTIGATE.
DAVE HANSON LOST THE JOB OR
00:11:53REDESIGNED AND THAT'S THE RIGHT
THING.
00:11:55KIDS HAVE TO COME FIRST.
KAREN: IF THE GOVERNOR WHO
00:11:59APOINT OR PUT DICK ROSS IN THAT
JOB WERE A DEMOCRAT AND DAVID
00:12:05HANSON WERE A DEM THAT CATT AND
MARRIED TO A DEMOCRATIC CHIEF OF
00:12:09STAFF --
>> HEY --
00:12:12KAREN: WOULD YOU BE OK WITH IT?
>> THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THESE TWO
00:12:16SEPARATE INVESTIGATIONS.
IF DICK ROSS KNEW SOMETHING,
00:12:19THEN HE NEEDS TO BEAR
RESPONSIBILITY.
00:12:21IF THE INVESTIGATION SAYS NO,
THEN HE'S DOING A FINE JOB AS
00:12:23THE SUPERINTENDENT OF OUR
EDUCATION.
00:12:25>> BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH
THAT INVESTIGATION.
00:12:29YOU'VE GOT DAVE YOST WHO SITS ON
THE CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE AND
00:12:33YOU'VE GOT THE INSPECTER WHO WAS
APPOINTED BY KASICH THE LEVEL OF
00:12:37INNS THERE IS QUESTIONABLE AT
BEST.
00:12:38IF THEY COME BACK WITH A MILD
FINDING OR DON'T FIND ANYTHING,
00:12:42THIS ISSUE IS STILL GOING TO
PLAGUE THE GOVERNOR.
00:12:46HE SHOULD CALL FOR AN
INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION
00:12:49HIMSELF.
LET THIS THING GET CLEANED UP
00:12:50AND LET THE DEPARTMENT OF
EDUCATION GET BACK TO DOING ITS
00:12:54BUSINESS WHICH IS PROTECTING THE
SCHOOL AND GIVING THEM AN
00:12:56OPPORTUNITY TO SUCCEED.
>> TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR TWO
00:12:59INVESTIGATIONS RIGHT NOW.
LET'S SEE THE RESULTS BEFORE WE
00:13:01START CALLING FOR OTHER
INVESTIGATIONS.
00:13:04LET'S SEE WHAT THESE TWO
INVESTIGATIONS BEAR OUT.
00:13:06IF IT DOESN'T PASS THE SMOKE
TEST, THEN LET'S DO THE NEXT
00:13:10INVESTIGATION.
KAREN: THIS WHOLE IDEA OF
00:13:12LEAVING OUT THE FAILING GRADES.
WAS THAT A GOOD IDEA?
00:13:15THE WHOLE DECISION STARTED ALL
THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
00:13:17>> IT'S AWFUL.
I'VE BEEN A BIG CRITIC, THE
00:13:22BALONEY THAT COLUMBUS SCHOOLS
DID.
00:13:25THE STUDENTS ARE NOT POLITICAL
PAWNS IN THIS GAME -- PONS ARE
00:13:30CHARTERS WE NEED TO CLEAN THIS
OUT AND PUT OUR KIDS FIRST.
00:13:32KAREN: THAT'S ONE THING WE HEAR
FROM THE GOVERNOR THAT I'M
00:13:36AGAINST BAD CHARTER SCHOOLS BUT
I'M ALWAYS AGAINST PUBLIC
00:13:38SCHOOLS.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:13:39AND IN THIS CASE, YOU'VE GOT
SUPERINTENDENTS AND OTHERS AT
00:13:43THE LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT WHO
ARE FACING JAIL TIME WHILE DAVE
00:13:49HANSON IS NOT BEING INVESTIGATED
BY ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT
00:13:52AUTHORITY.
IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE
00:13:53IN THE WAY THAT LOCAL SCHOOLS
HAVE BEEN TREATED IN THIS MATTER
00:13:56AND THE WAY POLITICALLY
CONNECTED DAVID HANSON HAS BEEN
00:14:00TREATED.
>> IT TOOK A YEAR FOR THEM TO
00:14:02FACE JAIL TIME.
IF HE NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL, THEN
00:14:07HE NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL.
KAREN: LET'S MOVE ON TO THE
00:14:11HOUSE AND SENATE COMING BACK.
SENATE COMES BACK NEXT WEEK.
00:14:14HOUSE LEADERS COME BACK AND
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES COME
00:14:17BACK THE WEEK AFTER THAT.
THE WHOLE IDEA OF CHARTER SCHOOL
00:14:22REFORM PACKAGE.
THIS IS A BILL -- IT'S A BIG
00:14:23DEAL.
YOU MENTIONED, MIKE, IT'S A
00:14:26BIPARTISAN BILL.
IT COULD HOLD CHARTER SCHOOLS
00:14:29MORE ACCOUNTABLE.
IT WOULD BAN SPONSOR HOPPING
00:14:33WHERE FAILING SCHOOLS CAN FIND
DIFFERENT SPONSORS.
00:14:36REQUIRING MORE TRANSPARENCY.
KERRY, DO YOU THINK THE HOUSE IS
00:14:39GOING TO GO ALONG THE SENATE'S
CHANGES OR DO YOU THINK THEY'RE
00:14:43GOING TO DEFER TO STUDY THOSE
CHANGES AND HOLD BACK A LITTLE
00:14:46BIT LONGER ON THAT BILL?
>> THERE -- THEY WILL TAKE
00:14:51ACTION ON HOUSE BILL TWO.
IT WILL HAPPEN QUICKLY.
00:14:54THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS SPENT ALL
SUMMER ANSWER ANSWERING
00:14:57QUESTIONS FROM EDITORIAL WRITERS
AND REPORTERS ABOUT WHY THEY
00:15:00SPIKE THIS BILL WHICH WAS
BIPARTISAN AS I THINKS YOU
00:15:03MENTIONED.
SO I THINK THEY WILL TAKE ACTION
00:15:07ON IT.
THE QUESTION WILL BE HOW MUCH
00:15:08WILL THEY WATER IT DOWN?
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO
00:15:12BE LOOKING AT.
WE WANT THIS FIRST STEP TO
00:15:15HAPPEN BUT THERE ARE MANY OTHER
PROBLEMS WITHIN THE CHARTER
00:15:17SCHOOL COMMUNITY THAT THE
LEGISLATURE NEEDS TO ADDRESS.
00:15:21>> SHE SENATOR IS THE LEAD
SPONSOR AND MOST ADVOCATES FOR
00:15:25ACCOUNTABILITY ARE GRAVITATING
TOWARDS PEGGY.
00:15:28SHE SAID THAT THE CHANGES AT THE
HOUSE ARE ASKING FOR LESS
00:15:33TECHNICAL ACCORDING TO HER
COALITION OF CHARTER SCHOOL
00:15:36REFORM ADVOCATE.
THIS IS GOING TO GET PASSED
00:15:39FAST.
THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE
00:15:40UNDERSTANDS AND APPRECIATE WES
NEED TO DO THIS.
00:15:42LET'S GET THIS THE GOVERNOR IN
OCTOBER.
00:15:44AND ONCE IT'S SIGNED INTO LAW,
LET'S DO THAT.
00:15:48BUT LET'S KEEP THE PUBLIC
SCHOOLS ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL.
00:15:51KAREN: DON'T YOU THINK THERE'S
GOING TO BE INFLUENCE BY
00:15:54LOBBYISTS AND SOME OF THESE
GROUPS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY
00:15:57THESE CHARTER SCHOOL REFORMS?
>> I CAN'T SEE A SCENARIO WHERE
00:16:01THERE WILL AN 11TH THUNDERSHOWER
OUT OF THE BLUE.
00:16:05SO MUCH FOCUS AND MAGNIFYING
GLASS ON IT SO MUCH.
00:16:07THERE'S NO TECHNICAL ISSUES.
IT'S OVER.
00:16:10>> THEY SPENT $91,000 IN THREAVE
CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS AT THE
00:16:14END OF THE SUMMER BEFORE THE LEA
AJAURMENT.
00:16:18I'M CERTAIN THERE WILL BE A
HEAVY LOBBYING EFFORT.
00:16:21KAREN: KERRY, LAWMAKERS ARE
LOOKING AT A FIX IN THE BUDGET
00:16:25THAT WILL UNDO SOMETHING THAT
THEY DID WHEN THEY PASSED THE
00:16:28BUDGET AND CHANGED SOME PERSONAL
INCOME TAX RATES.
00:16:31IT WOULD MEAN AN INCREASE IN THE
TAX ON SMALL BUSINESSES UP TO
00:16:35$52 MILLION.
THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'VE TALKED
00:16:38ABOUT.
>> THEY'LL DO IT QUICKLY IF NOT
00:16:40THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WHEN
THEY COME BACK.
00:16:42THE PROBLEM IS AND THE REASON
THAT WE'RE HERE IN TRYING TO FIX
00:16:46THESE PROBLEMS IS BECAUSE OF THE
HASTYNESS AT WHICH THE
00:16:49LEGISLATURE RAMMED THROUGH THIS
MASSIVE TAX PACKAGE AT THE END
00:16:52OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
WHEN THINGS ARE PUT INTO
00:16:55CONFERENCE COMMITTEE OR IN THE
11TH HOUR, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE
00:17:01OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC INPUT.
THESE THINGS DON'T GET VETTED
00:17:06AND MISTAKES HAPPEN.
I'M SURE THEY'LL CLEAN IT UP.
00:17:08IT'S SOMETHING THAT BENEFITS
THEIR CONSTITUENCY.
00:17:11KAREN: DOES HE MAKE A VALID
POINT ABOUT HOW FAST THIS BUDGET
00:17:15PROCESS WENT THROUGH IF THIS WAS
REALLY MOVING TOWARD TOWARD THE
00:17:19END.
>> THE BUDGET WAS INTRODUCED IN
00:17:22MARCH FOR THE AVERAGE OHIOAN.
YOU GET SOMETHING IN 90, 100
00:17:26DAYS, THAT'S A LONG TIME.
A LOT OF THESE ISSUES, TAX
00:17:30ISSUES WERE VETTED.
THERE WERE MULTIPLE HEARINGS.
00:17:36I THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO SAY OH,
THIS HAPPENED AT THE 11 ST.
00:17:40HOUR.
THERE IS A TECHNICAL PROBLEM?
00:17:42I SPOKE -- THE INTENT WAS
REDUCED BY 75%.
00:17:46THE DEPARTMENT OF TAX CAME OUT
AFTER THE FACT AND IT WAS SIGNED
00:17:50BY THE GOVERNOR.
SO YOU'VE GOT TO FIX IT.
00:17:52LET'S FIX IT AND MOVE ON.
LET SMALL BUSINESSES BENEFIT
00:17:56FROM THIS TAX BREAK.
KAREN: ANOTHER BILL THAT'S BEEN
00:17:58TALKED ABOUT.
SO-CALLED RIGHT TO WORK.
00:18:03REPRESENTATIVE TOM BRINKMAN
WANTS TO INTRODUCE IT AGAIN.
00:18:06IS THIS SOMETHING YOU SEE
COMING?
00:18:07>> IT'S A VERY PASSIONATE ISSUE.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF I'M FALLING
00:18:10INTO THE RIGHT OR THE WRONG
SIDE.
00:18:13MOST OF THE OHIOANS WOULD.
WE HAVE LABOR PEACE IN OHIO.
00:18:16WE TRULY DO.
WE DON'T SEE UNIONS OUTSIDE
00:18:20PICKETING.
FOR THE MOST PART, REVERFEY
00:18:23SPEAKING, WE HAVE LABOR PEACE IN
OHIO.
00:18:25WHY WOULD WE DO ANYTHING TO
UPSET THE APPLECART?
00:18:30I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO POKE
THE BEAR RIGHT NOW WITH ANYTHING
00:18:33FOR OR AGAINST LABOR OR FOR OR
AGAINST BUSINESS.
00:18:36LET'S CONTINUE THIS GREAT PACE
WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW.
00:18:39KAREN: A HUGE UNION TURNOUT.
THE PROTEST AT THE BEGINNING OF
00:18:43THAT SAYING THEY'RE CONCERNED
ABOUT RIGHT TO WORK.
00:18:45>> I THINK MAKE'S RIGHT.
I THINK THERE IS A SENSE THAT
00:18:49THERE'S PEACE RIGHT NOW.
AND I'VE HEARD GOVERNOR KASICH,
00:18:52YOU KNOW, ADDRESS THAT AND SAY
THAT HE DOESN'T WANT TO TO HAVE
00:18:57THIS ON HIS AGENDA THE ONLY
ISSUE IS IT'S NOT ABOUT WHETHER
00:19:00THERE'S PEACE RIGHT NOW AND THE
RUN-UP TO KASICH'S PRESIDENTIAL
00:19:03ELECTION.
THIS IS A BAD POLICY THAT HURTS
00:19:05WORKING FAMILIES.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT STAY
00:19:08OFF THE AGENDA FOR THAT REASON,
NOT BECAUSE IT BENEFITS ONE'S
00:19:12POLITICAL ASPIRATION.
KAREN: LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME
00:19:15DEADLINES.
THREE BIG ONES.
00:19:17THE GREEN ENERGY STANDARDS TASK
FORCE HAS A REPORT THAT IT'S
00:19:21SUPPOSED TO PUT TOGETHER WITH
REGARD TO THE TWO-YEAR FREEZE ON
00:19:23GREEN ENERGY STANDARDS.
DO YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE
00:19:26ANYTHING IN THAT REPORT THAT
SAYS THAT THE GREEN ENERGY
00:19:29STANDARDS SHOULD BE REINSTATED?
>> IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
00:19:32I THINK IT'S ANYBODY'S GUESS AT
THIS POINT.
00:19:35THE HOUSE SENATE BILL 310 WHEN
THOSE ENERGY STANDARDS WERE
00:19:39FROZEN, WE WERE THE FIRST STATE
IN THE COUNTRY TO DO SUCH A
00:19:42THING.
THERE IS I THINK A REAL CHANCE
00:19:44THAT THIS COMMITTEE COULD COME
BACK AND RECOMMEND A
00:19:47CONTINUATION OF THE FREEZE.
BUT THAT REALLY WON'T BE WHAT IT
00:19:49IS.
IT WILL BE -- THEY WILL BE
00:19:52KILLING THE RENEWABLE ENERGY
STANDARDS PUT IN PLACE FIVE
00:19:55YEARS AGO.
AND THAT WILL BE A TRAVESTY FOR
00:19:57OUR FUTURE AND OUR FUTURE
ENVIRONMENT HERE IN OHIO.
00:20:00>> BEFORE WE SAY THE SKY IS
FALLING, LET'S REMEMBER THIS GUY
00:20:04CALLED AMAZON SAYING WE'RE
MOVING TO OHIO WITH $1 BILLION
00:20:09INVESTMENT AND IF OUR
ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS SWORE
00:20:11BACKWARDS, OHIO WOULD BE THE
LAST PLACE A COMPANY LIKE AMAZON
00:20:15WOULD COME.
IT'S A FREEZE AND NOT A
00:20:18ROLL-BACK.
NO ONE HAS A LOT OF FAITH IN THE
00:20:20REPORTS.
LET'S BE HONEST THERE.
00:20:21I GET THERE.
BUT LET'S GIVE THEM THE BENEFIT
00:20:24OF THE DO YOU WANT LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS.
00:20:26IF THERE IS A GREAT SUGGESTIONS
IN THERE, LET'S INCORPORATE IT.
00:20:29AND IF THERE'S NOT -- DENORFIA
AT THE END OF THE DAY, IS STILL
00:20:34BETTER THAN OUR CURRENT ENERGY
STANDARDS.
00:20:39KAREN: SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SEVERANCE
00:20:42TAX PANEL THAT WAS FORMED AFTER
THE SEVERANCE TAX PROPOSAL THAT
00:20:48KASICH PUT IN THE BUDGET.
THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PUT BY
00:20:52OCTOBER 1.
DO YOU EXPECT TO SEE ANY MONEY?
00:20:57>> IT IS WELL-DOCUMENTED AND YOU
TALKED ABOUT IT ON YOUR SHOW.
00:21:01AND I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT YOU
HAVE THE GOVERNOR AND THE
00:21:04LEGISLATURE COMPLETELY AT ODDS
THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET ANYTHING
00:21:06OUT OF THIS.
THE INDUSTRY WILL SAY WE'RE
00:21:08FRAGILE RIGHT NOW.
OILS AT LESS THAN $40 A BARREL.
00:21:13OTHERS ARE SAYING YOU'VE GOT
TONS OF SHELL OIL IN OHIO AND
00:21:17YOU'RE OPENING UP NEW WELLS.
THEY'RE TALKING PASS EACH OTHER.
00:21:21THERE WILL BE STAGNATION.
>> WE TALK ABOUT THE LOBBYING
00:21:25EFFORT AND THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE
GOING TO SEE AN INTENSE LOBBYING
00:21:29EFFORT.
THEY HAVE INVESTED A LOT IN THE
00:21:31LEGISLATURE.
AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE
00:21:32TOUGH TO SEE THEM COMING BACK
WITH ANY REASONABLE
00:21:36RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK THE CONCERN IS THAT --
00:21:38AND I THINK GOVERNOR KASICH SAID
IT WELL.
00:21:40WE'RE GETTING RIPPED OFF.
OUR TAX RATE IS ONE OF THE
00:21:43LOWEST IN THE COUNTRIES.
AND WE HAVE -- WE OWN THESE
00:21:47RESOURCES AND IF COMPANIES ARE
COMING, WE SHOULD HAVE AN
00:21:49OPPORTUNITY TO CAPITALIZE ON
THAT INVESTMENT AND WE'RE NOT
00:21:53GETTING THAT RIGHT NOW AND
THAT'S A REAL SHAME.
00:21:55KAREN: THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE
FOUR-YEAR COLLEGES AND
00:21:59UNIVERSITIES HAVING TO COME ONE
SOME PLANS TO PRESENT TO THE
00:22:02GOVERNOR AND THE SENATE
RESIDENT.
00:22:05>> THERE'S NO GREATER KITCHEN
TABLE THAN THE COST OF YOUR
00:22:08KIDS' COLLEGE EDUCATION.
AND WHAT THE GOVERNOR SAID IS HE
00:22:12SAID FOUR-YEAR SCHOOLS, I WANT
TO REPORT ON OCTOBER 1 THAT'S
00:22:15GOING TO SHOW HOW YOU'RE GOING
TO CUT COSTS UP AND DOWN THE
00:22:18BOARD AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO
INTEGRATE TOGETHER.
00:22:20AND IF YOU DON'T, HE SAID "MY
FRIEND AND I ARE GOING TO BRING
00:22:26AN AX TO YOU."
THE COST OF AN EDUCATION IS OUT
00:22:30OF CONTROL AND NO ONE IS
STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE TO
00:22:33FIGHT THESE FOUR-YEAR
UNIVERSITIES.
00:22:34>> AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
I THINK FORCING THE UNIVERSITIES
00:22:38TO COME BACK WITH
RECOMMENDATIONS IS HELPFUL TO
00:22:40DRIVE DOWN THOSE COST BUT IT'S
HELPFUL THAT THE STATE INVESTS
00:22:45IN IT.
INSTEAD OF THE STICK APPROACH,
00:22:47WE KNEE TO INCENTIVEIZE THEM
THROUGH THE BUDGET TO INCREASE
00:22:52-- WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LEVEL OF
FUNDING FOR OUR COLLEGES AND
00:22:56UNIVERSITY, IT'S BEEN FLAT LINE
FORWARD GOOD 20 YEARS.
00:22:59AND IF WE REALLY WANT TO TACKLE
COLLEGE TUITION COST, WE HAVE TO
00:23:03DRIVE DOWN COSTS AT THE
UNIVERSITY LEVEL BUT MAKE
00:23:07INVESTMENTS AT THE STATE LEVEL.
WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT UP TO THIS
00:23:10POINT ANY MEANINGFUL WAY.
KAREN: THE FALL BALLOT.
00:23:14THIS IS AN OFF-YEAR ELECTION BUT
IT'S BEEN ON IN TERMS OF THE
00:23:17ATTENTION.
NEXT WEEK, I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT
00:23:19THE REDISTRIBUTING ISSUE, ISSUE
ONE.
00:23:21PASS OR FAIL?
>> ISSUE ONE WILL PASS BOTH
00:23:24PARTIES HAVE ENDORSED IT.
IT'S RECEIVED MAJOR BIPARTISAN
00:23:28ENDORSEMENT FROM ELECTED
OFFICIALS.
00:23:31IT WILL PASS AND IT WILL PASS
HANDILY.
00:23:33ISSUE TWO --
KAREN: LET'S GIVE MIKE A CHANCE.
00:23:37PASS OR FAIL?
>> I AGREE WITH KERRY, PASS.
00:23:40KAREN: ISSUE TWOS AND THREE.
THE ANTI-MONOPOLY AMENDMENT,
00:23:44WHICH IS SEEMS TO HAVE PUT ON
THE BALLOT BECAUSE OF ISSUE
00:23:48THREE, MARIJUANA LEGALIZATION.
GO AHEAD, KERRY.
00:23:51>> TWO REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
IT'S COMPLICATED.
00:23:54THERE'S A LOT TO DIGEST WHEN YOU
GO INTO THE BALLOT BOOTH WITH
00:23:57THAT AMENDMENT.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY
00:23:59IS GOING TO BE PUT BEHIND IT TO
ADVERTISE ITS MEANING TO THE
00:24:02VOTERS.
ISSUE THREE WILL HAVE A TON OF
00:24:05MONEY TO COMMUNICATE THEIR
MESSAGE IN WHAT THAT BALLOT
00:24:08ISSUE IS ALL ABOUT.
I THINK IT WILL BE CLOSE ON
00:24:11ISSUE THREE BUT ISSUE THREE WILL
PASS.
00:24:15>> ISSUE THREE FAILS.
THERE'S PULLING OUT THERE NOW.
00:24:18LY TELL YOU THAT CLEARLY SHOWS
THAT IT'S IN TROUBLE.
00:24:22KAREN: BASED ON THE LEGALIZATION
PART OR THE 10 GROWING SITES?
00:24:26>> THE MONOPOLY SIDE OF IT.
IF IT WAS A MEDICAL MARIJUANA, I
00:24:32WOULD PASS.
ISSUE THREE FAILS BUT THAT'S
00:24:35GOING TO BLING DOWN TWO BECAUSE
VOTERS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO
00:24:40DWIRNLT I COULD BE WRONG.
I'M ROOTING FOR TWO.
00:24:43THE GENERAL NATURE WILL BE YES
ON ONE, NO ON TWO AND THREE.
00:24:46>> I HOPE IT'S NOT NO ON ONE,
TWO AND THREE.
00:24:48>> I AGREE.
>> IT WOULD BE A REAL SETBACK.
00:24:52ISSUE ONE IS IMPORTANT.
>> VOTERS DO TEND TO VOTE NO
00:24:57WHEN THEY ARE CONFUSED.
ALL RIGHT.
00:25:01THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING
HERE, GENTLEMEN.
00:25:03>> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
00:25:04>> AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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