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00:00:28KAREN: MORE MOVEMENT ON MEDICAL
MARIJUANA, BUT ONE ADVOCATE SAYS
00:00:31IMPORTANT VOICES AREN'T BEING
HEARD.
00:00:34AND A CONTROVERSIAL MEASURE TO
CHANGE THE WAY THE STATE FUNDS
00:00:38JOBLESS BENEFITS HAS ACTIVISTS
FOR LOW-INCOME OHIOANS VERY
00:00:41ANGRY.
WE'LL HEAR SOME OF THE REASONS
00:00:43FOR THE BILL FROM ITS SPONSOR.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:00:48OHIO."
? IN? ?
00:00:59?
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00:01:00KAREN: A LEADING STATE SENATOR
SAYS HE'S LEAVING OFFICE EARLY.
00:01:04CHRIS WIDENER, A REPUBLICAN OF
SPRINGFIELD, SAYS HE'S RETIRING
00:01:05AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
HE WAS SET TO LEAVE OFFICE
00:01:07BECAUSE OF TERM LIMITS ANYWAY,
BUT THIS ALLOWS THE OHIO
00:01:09REPUBLICAN CAUCUS TO APPOINT HIS
SUCCESSOR, WHO IS LIKELY TO BE
00:01:13REPRESENTATIVE BOB HACKETT OF
LONDON, WHO IS RUNNING FOR THAT
00:01:15SEAT IN THE MARCH 15 PRIMARY.
TWO STATE SENATORS WITH VERY
00:01:21DIFFERENT VIEWS ON MEDICAL
MARIJUANA SAY THEY'RE LAUNCHING
00:01:23WHAT THEY'RE CALLING A LISTENING
TOUR TO FIND OUT WHAT OHIOANS
00:01:24THINK.
REPUBLICAN DAVID BURKE OF
00:01:28MARYSVILLE, WHO'S A PHARMACIST,
SAYS HE'S A SKEPTIC ABOUT
00:01:31MEDICINAL POT.
DEMOCRAT KENNY YUKO OF RICHMOND
00:01:34HEIGHTS NEAR CLEVELAND SUFFERS
FROM MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS AND IS A
00:01:37LONGTIME ADVOCATE FOR IT.
THEY'LL HOLD THEIR FIRST MEETING
00:01:41AT CLEVELAND STATE UNIVERSITY ON
JANUARY 30, AND WILL FOLLOW THAT
00:01:44WITH SESSIONS NEXT MONTH IN
TOLEDO, CINCINNATI AND MAYBE
00:01:46COLUMBUS.
MEANWHILE, HOUSE LEADERS HAVE
00:01:49ANNOUNCED A TASK FORCE ON
MEDICAL MARIJUANA, WHICH
00:01:52INCLUDES HEALTH, LAW ENFORCEMENT
AND BUSINESS GROUPS, ALONG WITH
00:01:54TWO KEY LEADERS FROM
REPONSIBLEOHIO, WHICH BROUGHT
00:01:58THE LEGALIZATION OF POT ISSUE TO
OHIO VOTERS LAST FALL.
00:02:02THAT ISSUE WAS SOUNDED DEFEATED,
LY DEFEATED, BUT THE GROUP HAD
00:02:11SAID IT PLANNED TO COME BACK TO
THE BALLOT WITH ANOTHER MEDICAL
00:02:13POT ISSUE SOON.
THAT SEEMS UNLIKELY NOW.
00:02:19THERE ARE ACTIVISTS WHO'VE
WORKED ON THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA
00:02:21ISSUE FOR YEARS, AND SOME SAY
THEY ARE DISAPPOINTED TO HAVE
00:02:23BEEN SHUT OUT OF THIS HOUSE TASK
FORCE.
00:02:24I TALKED THIS WEEK WITH MARY
JANE BORDEN FROM THE OHIO RIGHTS
00:02:26GROUP, WHICH HAS BEEN WORKING TO
ESTABLISH MEDICAL, THERAPEUTIC
00:02:28AND INDUSTRIAL USE OF CANNABIS
IN OHIO IN A PRODUCTIVE,
00:02:30WELL-REGULATED INDUSTRY.
SHE SAYS SHE'S PLEASED TO SEE
00:02:33LAWMAKERS HAVE INCLUDED THE
RESPONSIBLEOHIO LEADERS, BUT
00:02:35FEELS OTHERS NEED TO BE HEARD
FROM AS WELL.
00:02:41ARE YOU CONCERNED THIS TASK
FORCE, THESE ARE STALLING
00:02:48TACTICS?
NOW THAT RESPONSIBLE OHIO HAS
00:02:53BEEN DISBANDED COULD YOU
CONCERNED THIS IS A STALLING
00:02:56TACTIC?
MARY JANE: LET'S LOOK AT THE
00:03:01HISTORY HERE.
WE ARE GOING BACK 10-20 YEARS
00:03:06AND WE'VE HAD NO ACTION FROM THE
STATEHOUSE.
00:03:07THE HEARING IN 2008 -- NOTHING
SINCE THEN.
00:03:14THE FACT THAT THEY ARE LISTENING
TO US NOW, WE LOOK AT THAT AS A
00:03:23POSITIVE STEP FORWARD.
WE NEED TO SHOW OUR LEGISLATORS
00:03:28THAT THERE IS A SCIENCE BEHIND
CANNABIS.
00:03:29IT BELONGS IN THE MEDICINE
CABINET.
00:03:31NOW IS THE TIME FOR THEM TO ACT.
THIS ISSUE IS IMPORTANT.
00:03:38KAREN: LAWMAKERS SAY CHANGE
SHOULD COME FROM THE FEDERAL
00:03:46GOVERNMENT BECAUSE IT IS AN
ILLEGAL SCHEDULE ONE DRUG.
00:03:49MARY JANE: IT SUPPOSEDLY HAS NO
MEDICINAL VALUE.
00:03:52I SEE THERAPY -- WE KNOW THERE
IS MEDICINAL VALUE FROM CANNABIS
00:04:00PICK WE HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.
WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT
00:04:04THEIR MEDICINE IS IMPORTANT.
THEY NEED TO LISTEN TO THAT.
00:04:08KAREN: SOME PEOPLE SAY WHEN YOU
OPEN UP THE DOOR TO MEDICAL
00:04:12MARIJUANA, IT IS A GATEWAY TO
RECREATIONAL USE.
00:04:15THERE IS NO WAY TO REGULATE
MARIJUANA THAT CONFINES IT TO A
00:04:21MEDICINAL USE.
MARY JANE: UNFORTUNATELY,
00:04:27CANNABIS HAS BEEN ILLEGAL FOR
THE LAST 45 YEARS.
00:04:28WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD KNOWLEDGE
BASE FOR LEGAL CANNABIS -- I
00:04:43DON'T THINK THAT IS SOMETHING
THAT SHOULD BE PREVENTING
00:04:48LEGISLATORS FROM ENACTING
LEGISLATION TO GET THIS MEDICINE
00:04:50TO PATIENTS.
KAREN: WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO
00:04:51SEE IN A MEDICAL MARIJUANA BILL?
CLIFF ROSENBERGER SAID THE DOOR
00:04:55IS OPEN.
HE WANTS TO HEAR FROM YOU.
00:04:57MARY JANE: THE FIRST THING I
WANT US TO FIND OUT -- PEOPLE
00:05:05SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO USE THIS
MEDICINE WITHOUT ANY REPARATION,
00:05:09WITHOUT ANY SANCTIONS AGAINST
THEM.
00:05:10IT NEEDS TO BE LEGAL FOR THEM TO
USE IT.
00:05:11THE SECOND THING THAT NEEDS TO
HAPPEN, THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAY
00:05:17THEY CAN GET THE MEDICINE.
THERE HAS OFTEN BEEN A CAREGIVER
00:05:20MODEL.
YOU LOOK AT PEOPLE WHO DON'T
00:05:29HAVE THAT GREEN THUMB, THERE HAS
TO BE A WAY FOR PATIENTS TO BE
00:05:32ABLE TO PURCHASE IT OR ACQUIRE
IT.
00:05:35THAT IS ESSENTIAL, WHETHER IT'S
A DISPENSARY SYSTEM -- LET'S
00:05:40TALK ABOUT THAT.
THAT IS IMPORTANT.
00:05:44IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT THERE'S
CERTAIN THINGS THAT GO WITH
00:05:51MEDICINAL CONFIDENTIALITY.
THERE ARE PROVISIONS THAT
00:05:54PROTECT THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF
THE PATIENT IN TERMS OF THEIR
00:06:00USE OF CANNABIS AND THE
CONDITIONS THEY HAVE.
00:06:01SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO BE
OPEN ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
00:06:03KAREN: THE HOUSE TASK FORCE HAS
A MARCH 31 DEADLINE TO COME UP
00:06:07WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT
THERE'S NO PROMISE OF
00:06:08LEGISLATION.
HEARINGS CONTINUE ON A BILL THAT
00:06:10WOULD CHANGE UNEMPLOYMENT CHECKS
FOR JOBLESS OHIO WORKERS, AND
00:06:12WOULD CHANGE THE AMOUNT
EMPLOYERS PAY INTO THE FUND THAT
00:06:13BACKS THOSE BENEFITS.
THE BILL FROM REPRESENTATIVE
00:06:22BARBARA SEARS OF NORTHWEST OHIO
WOULD CUT THE LENGTH OF TIME
00:06:23WORKERS CAN GET JOBLESS BENEFITS
FROM 26 WEEKS TO BETWEEN 12 AND
00:06:2720 WEEKS, DEPENDING ON THE
STATE'S UNEMPLOYMENT RATE,
00:06:34FREEZE MAXIMUM BENEFITS THROUGH
2025, CUT EXTRA BENEFITS FOR
00:06:37THOSE WITH DEPENDENTS, AND
DEDUCT SOME SOCIAL SECURITY
00:06:38PAYMENTS FROM BENEFITS, WHICH
WOULD MAKE OHIO THE FIRST STATE
00:06:41IN THE NATION TO DO THAT.
IT WOULD ALSO RAISE THE TAXABLE
00:06:47WAGE BASE, WHICH DETERMINES WHAT
EMPLOYERS PAY IN UNEMPLOYMENT
00:06:49TAXES, FROM $9,000 TO $11,000.
OVERALL, IT'S ESTIMATED THAT THE
00:06:54BILL WOULD CUT TAXES FOR
EMPLOYERS BY AN AVERAGE $313
00:07:00MILLION A YEAR AND AT THE SAME
TIME CUT BENEFITS TO WORKERS BY
00:07:12$475 MILLION A YEAR.
THE BILL IS INTENDED TO SHORE UP
00:07:14THE STATE'S UNEMPLOYMENT
COMPENSATION FUND, WHICH WENT
00:07:15BROKE PAYING OUT BENEFITS DURING
THE GREAT RECESSION.
00:07:17THE STATE HAD TO BORROW $2
BILLION FROM THE FEDERAL
00:07:18GOVERNMENT TO KEEP WRITING
CHECKS TO JOBLESS WORKERS, AND
00:07:20STILL OWES $775 MILLION ON THAT
DEBT, BUT IS ON TRACK TO BE PAID
00:07:26PAY IT OFF NEXT YEAR.
BUT ADVOCATES FOR LOW-INCOME
00:07:34OHIOANS ARE BLASTING THE BILL AS
HITTING WORKERS TOO HARD WHILE
00:07:35GIVING BIG BREAKS TO EMPLOYERS.
LISA HAMLER-FUGITT RUNS THE OHIO
00:07:37ASSOCIATION OF FOODBANKS AND IS
A CO-CHAIR OF ADVOCATES FOR
00:07:40OHIO'S FUTURE, A COALITION OF
NEARLY 500 ORGANIZATIONS HEALTH
00:07:41AND HUMAN SERVICES
ORGANIZATIONS.
00:07:46>> HB 394, IF PASSED, WOULD
DISMANTLE OHIO'S MOST EFFECTIVE
00:07:55ANTI-POVERTY PROGRAM.
UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION THAT
00:08:03IS A POVERTY PREVENTION PROGRAM
FOR FAR TOO MANY OHIOANS.
00:08:10KAREN: HAMLER-FUGITT SAYS MEDIAN
WAGES, WHICH WERE TRENDING DOWN
00:08:14IN EVERY OHIO COUNTY BEFORE THE
RECESSION, HAVEN'T RECOVERED.
00:08:15AND WHILE THE STATE'S JOBLESS
RATE IS AT ITS LOWEST RATE IN 14
00:08:17YEARS, SHE SAYS THE POVERTY
LEVEL IS STILL AROUND 16%
00:08:24BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING
LOW-WAGE, TEMPORARY AND
00:08:27PART-TIME JOBS.
AND THE ADVOCATES SAY THE
00:08:28PROPOSED CHANGES WON'T DO
ANYTHING TO STABILIZE THE
00:08:29ECONOMY OR RELIEVE PERSONAL
HARDSHIPS.
00:08:33MARK DAVIS IS THE PRESIDENT OF
THE OHIO PROVIDER RESOURCE
00:08:36ASSOCIATION, AND IS ALSO WITH
ADVOCATES FOR OHIO'S FUTURE.
00:08:40>> FOUR YEARS COME A SMALLER
SHARE HAVE QUALIFIED FOR
00:08:49BENEFITS THAN AS A WHOLE.
JUST 27% IN THE THIRD QUARTER OF
00:08:532015.
WE EXPECT THAT PERCENTAGE TO GET
00:08:54SMALLER UNDER HB 394.
IT GOES FURTHER THAN ANY OTHER
00:08:59STATE TO LIMIT BENEFITS
AVAILABLE TO THE UNEMPLOYED AND
00:09:04CREATES BARRIERS TO
ACCESSING INSURANCE
00:09:10COMPENSATION.
KAREN: DAVIS SAYS HE BELIEVES
00:09:13THAT THE GROUP AND THE BILL'S
SPONSOR, REPRESENTATIVE SEARS,
00:09:15HAVE THE SAME GOALS OF MAKING
SURE THE FUND IS SOLVENT AND
00:09:17STABLE, BUT THE GROUP IS SO
OPPOSED TO THE CURRENT PROPOSAL
00:09:18THAT THEY WANT IT SCRAPPED
ENTIRELY.
00:09:20TO ANSWER SOME OF THE MANY
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MEASURE,
00:09:21NORTHWEST OHIO REPUBLICAN
REPRESENTATIVE BARBARA SEARS OF
00:09:26MONCLAVA TOWNSHIP NEAR TOLEDO IS
HERE TO TALK ABOUT HER BILL.
00:09:29REPRESENTATIVE SEARS: THANK YOU
FOR HAVING ME.
00:09:31KAREN: WE TALKED ABOUT THE BILL
BACK IN NOVEMBER WITH SOME FOLKS
00:09:37FROM THINK TANKS.
AMY SAID "I DON'T KNOW HOW SOME
00:09:43SLEEP AT NIGHT IF THEY SUPPORT
THIS PROPOSAL.
00:09:44IT STOPS FAMILIES FROM THE
SENDING A MEDIALLY INTO POVERTY
00:09:49THE MOMENT THEY LOSE A JOB."
THE CUTS TO NUMBER OF WEEKS, THE
00:09:57NO BENEFITS TO THOSE WITH
DEPENDENTS, THEY SEEM TO BE
00:10:01REALLY HARSH FOR EMPLOYEES.
EXPLAIN TO ME WHERE THIS COMES
00:10:05FROM.
REPRESENTATIVE SEARS: THIS COMES
00:10:09FROM A PROCESS AT 68 YEARS OF
LOOKING AT THE UNEMPLOYED
00:10:11PROCESS IN THE STATE OF OHIO.
UNEMPLOYMENT IS AN INSURANCE
00:10:15FULLY FUNDED BY EMPLOYERS.
IT IS THEIR INSURANCE PROGRAM.
00:10:23IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE BEEN
DOING OVER THE COURSE OF THE
00:10:28LAST SIX YEARS OR SO WITH
REGARDS TO OUR OTHER BENEFIT
00:10:32AREAS -- LET'S LOOK AT THE
EXPANSION OF MEDICAID.
00:10:35LET'S LOOK AT THE JOB CREATION
COME ECONOMIC DEVELOP AND WORK
00:10:41WE'VE DONE.
THE HIGHER ED WORK THAT WE'VE
00:10:42DONE.
COMMUNE TO COLLEGE COME OPENING
00:10:45UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO ELEVATE
THE LEVEL OF EDUCATION WHERE WE
00:10:51NEED TO.
THE FOOD BANKS, THE INVESTMENT
00:10:52WE PUT INTO THE FOOD BANKS.
SOME OF OUR OTHER SOCIAL AREAS
00:10:58WHERE WE SPEND HUNDREDS OF
MILLION TO DOLLARS INVESTING IN
00:11:03SERVICES AND PROGRAMS THAT HELP
LIFT PEOPLE UP AND MOVE THEM
00:11:05TOWARDS THE DIRECTION OF
EMPLOYMENT.
00:11:06IT IS TIME TO MOVE OUR
UNEMPLOYMENT SYSTEM TO AN
00:11:10EMPLOYMENT SYSTEM THIRD HAD WE
MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT CORE
00:11:15BASIC BENEFIT BUT PUTTING IT IN
LINE WITH ALL THE OTHER THINGS
00:11:17WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OVER THE
LAST FOUR GENERAL ASSEMBLIES?
00:11:22THESE ARE THINGS AVAILABLE TO
YOU.
00:11:31THIS IS THE LAST PIECE OF IT.
IT WAS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR US TO
00:11:36DO THIS ANY EARLIER THE NOW
BECAUSE THE ON EMPLOYMENT LEVEL
00:11:38WAS HIGH.
NOW, WE ARE ALMOST PAYING OFF
00:11:44OUR FEDERAL THAT COME OUR
UNEMPLOYMENT IS VERY LOW.
00:11:45WE HAVE THESE PROCESSES CIRCLING
AROUND SOMEONE WHO NEEDS
00:11:50ASSISTANCE AND IT'S TIME TO MOVE
IT TO THE NEXT STEP.
00:11:52THAT IS THE BASIC PREMISE FOR
WHY WE ARE LOOKING AT MAKING
00:11:58SOME OF THE CHANGES IN THIS
PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
00:11:59KAREN: ANALYSTS ARE SAYING IT
WOULD CUT TAXES FOR EMPLOYERS BY
00:12:04AN AVERAGE OF $300 A YEAR
MILLIONAIRE.
00:12:10THAT SEEMS TO BE IMBALANCED.
-- $300 MILLION A YEAR.
00:12:17REPRESENTATIVE SEARS: WE KNOW
WE'VE GOT TWO TRACKS WE GO DOWN.
00:12:23ONE IS THE FEDERAL TAX.
THAT, WE ARE TAKING MONEY FROM
00:12:35EMPLOYERS AND SENDING IT TO THE
FEDS AND THEY ARE RETURNING
00:12:37DOLLARS TO US TO PAY FOR THE
ADMINISTERED OF COSTS OF RUNNING
00:12:38THE PROGRAM.
THE OTHER IS THE STATE TAX.
00:12:42THAT COMES INTO A POOL IN A
SAVINGS ACCOUNT THAT PAYS FOR
00:12:48BENEFITS.
EMPLOYERS HAVE BEEN PAYING A
00:12:51PENALTY SINCE 2004 BECAUSE WE
DID NOT HAVE A MINIMUM RAINY DAY
00:12:59FUND WHERE WE NEEDED IT TO BE.
WE MEDIALLY STARTED BORROWING
00:13:05ESSEN IS THE ECONOMY WENT DOWN.
MOST STATES WHERE.
00:13:08WE ARE NOT UNUSUAL AT ALL.
-- WE IMMEDIATELY STARTED
00:13:14BORROWING AS SOON AS THE ECONOMY
WENT DOWN.
00:13:15ON THE FEDERAL SIDE, BECAUSE THE
DEBT HAS GONE BEYOND FIVE YEARS,
00:13:24WE WERE PAYING A PENALTY THEY
ARE ALSO.
00:13:25-- THERE ALSO.
WHEN WE ALTER THE BENEFITS,
00:13:35RIGHT NOW, IF I PAY YOU A DOLLAR
, EXTRA ROBUST DOLLARS IS GOING
00:13:41UP FOR BENEFITS.
IF I CHANGE THE BENEFITS COME
00:13:44I'M PAYING LESS.
-- X AMOUNT OF THOSE DOLLARS IS
00:13:48GOING OUT FOR BENEFITS.
THAT IMMEDIATELY BALANCES IF YOU
00:13:56WERE TO TAKE HIS PROJECTIONS AND
MOVE THEM OUT BECAUSE IF I PAY
00:13:57LESS, MY LOSS RATIO IS GREATER.
IT'S ALWAYS A BALANCE OF HOW
00:14:04MUCH MONEY GOES IN AND OUT.
EVEN THOUGH OUR LEGISLATIVE
00:14:08SERVICES COMMISSION SHOWS THIS
AS A SAVINGS OVER A SHORT TIME,
00:14:15IT WILL ULTIMATELY BALANCE OUT
TO WHERE THE EMPLOYERS ARE
00:14:21PAYING AN APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF
DOLLARS.
00:14:26KAREN: EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE
WORKERS ARE TAKING A BIG TAX --
00:14:31REPRESENTATIVE SEARS: BECAUSE
UNEMPLOYMENT IS SO LOW.
00:14:35WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT GOES UP, THAT
TREND CHANGES.
00:14:38WE'VE DONE MODELING TO SEE WHAT
WOULD HAPPEN IF WE WERE TO HAVE
00:14:42A SMALL RECESSION.
SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT THAT
00:14:47RISK-ADJUSTED RATE?
THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS STILL
00:14:52GOING ON AND WILL GO ON AS THE
BILL CONTINUES TO MOVE.
00:14:54ONE OF THE INTERESTING
DIFFICULTIES ABOUT TRYING TO
00:14:59PROJECT OUT IS IT BECOMES SO
MANY INFLUENCES AND SO MANY
00:15:01VARIABLES TO TRY TO FIGURE A
ONE-OUT VARIABLE TO MODEL AFTER
00:15:08-- YOU ARE NOT SHOOTING IN THE
DARK BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DOING IT
00:15:10, BUT YOU ARE MAKING A LOT OF
ASSUMPTIONS.
00:15:12WE ARE DOING MODELING TO SEE
WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
00:15:15KAREN: YOU HAVE SOME ADVOCATES
SAYING THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS THE
00:15:24PROBLEM OF SOLVENCY.
IT DOESN'T GET TO THAT.
00:15:25DO YOU FEEL IT GETS TO THAT?
REPRESENTATIVE SEARS: WE WILL
00:15:31CONTINUE TO LOOK AT MODELING AS
WE MOVE THE BILL FORWARD AND WE
00:15:34GET CLOSER TO PASS TIME TO
DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED
00:15:38TO MAKE ADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENTS
WITHIN IT.
00:15:39WHEN WE LOOKED AT HOW WE WANT TO
HELP OUR CONSTRUCTION FOLKS,
00:15:47THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVE A BIG GAP
IN THE WINTER MONTHS BECAUSE OF
00:15:50THE WEATHER, ONE THING WE LOOKED
AT WAS OK COMMIT WE ARE GOING TO
00:15:55FIX THAT PROBLEM, WHAT DO WE
NEED TO DO TO ELEVATE THEIR
00:15:57PREMIUM?
WE DID THAT AS PART OF THE
00:16:04AMENDMENT TO ELEVATE THAT.
WE INCREASED THE PREMIUM THE
00:16:10EMPLOYERS ARE PAYING BY A
PERCENT ALSO.
00:16:11TO HELP TOWARDS OFFSETTING THAT.
OTHER STATES LIKE NEW JERSEY IN
00:16:16ALASKA AND PENNSYLVANIA HAVE
GONE TO HAVING AN EMPLOYEE PAY
00:16:20PART OF THE PREMIUM.
WE DID NOT FEEL LIKE THAT WAS
00:16:23RIGHT PUBLIC POLICY FOR OHIO
BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF
00:16:26LOW-WAGE EARNERS.
THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR THE
00:16:32BENEFITS.
THAT DID NOT SEEM LIKE THE RIGHT
00:16:34TRACK FOR US TO LOOK AT.
KAREN: WHEN THE BILL WAS
00:16:41INTRODUCED, THERE WAS THE
PROVISION THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR
00:16:42THE SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS TO
BE 100% DEDUCTED FROM DUST
00:16:49PAYMENTS TO BE -- SOCIAL
SECURITY PAYMENTS TO BE ONE OF
00:16:54PERCENT DEDUCTED.
REPRESENTATIVE SEARS: YOU WOULD
00:16:57NOT RECEIVE SOCIAL SECURITY AND
UNEMPLOYMENT AT THE SAME TIME.
00:16:59WHEN THE BILL WAS DRAFTED
ORIGINALLY COME IT INCLUDED THE
00:17:03IDEA THAT EVEN IF YOU WERE ON
SOCIAL SECURITY DISABILITY AND
00:17:06YOU WERE ABLE TO BE IN A
POSITION OF WORKING TO THE LEVEL
00:17:08HE WOULD ALSO QUALIFY FOR AN
EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, THAT WAS
00:17:10NOT MY INTENT.
THAT WAS MY MISTAKE WITH
00:17:14DRAFTING.
THAT WE KNEW WE WERE
00:17:23IMMEDIATELY GOING TO PULL OUT.
WE LOOKED AT THE OUTSET,
00:17:28UNDERSTANDING THAT OHIO JUST
RECENTLY WENT TO ELIMINATION OF
00:17:29THE FULL UPSET.
-- OFFSET.
00:17:34LET'S KEEP THE CONVERSATION
GOING.
00:17:37BUT LET'S MAKE IT MORE
PRACTICAL.
00:17:40LET'S RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT
PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING ARE
00:17:42PAYING FOR SOCIAL
SECURITY AND THEY PAY 50% AND
00:17:47THE EMPLOYER PAYS 50%.
WE ARE MOVING THIS TO A 50-50
00:17:49OFFSET.
I DON'T BELIEVE -- THERE ARE A
00:17:55COUPLE STATES WHO STILL HAVE A
PERCENTAGE OFFSET.
00:17:58DO WE WANT TO BE UNIQUE OR NOT
BE UNIQUE?
00:18:03EVERY STATE DOES UNEMPLOYMENT
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
00:18:07IF IT'S WHO THEY ARE AS A STATE.
-- FITS WHO THEY ARE AS A STATE.
00:18:16THAT IS THE BEAUTY OF OUR
STATES.
00:18:19WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE INDIVIDUAL
LABORATORIES OF OUR OWN PUBLIC
00:18:25POLICIES.
THERE ARE PLUSES AND MINUSES.
00:18:27IF YOU ADD ONE BECAUSE EVERY
OTHER STATE IS DOING IT, WHAT DO
00:18:32YOU DO WHEN YOU ARE THE ONLY
ONES DOING IT?
00:18:36KAREN: THIS BILL SEEMS TO HAVE A
LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE PRETTY
00:18:42HARSH FOR EMPLOYEES WHO ARE THE
FIRST VICTIMS OF RECESSION.
00:18:46REPRESENTATIVE SEARS: IN WHAT
WAY?
00:18:49A LOT OF FOLKS ARE LOOKING AT
THE WEEK'S ISSUE.
00:18:53WE ARE GOING FROM THIS GUARANTY
OF 26 DOWN TO THIS 12-20 SLIDE.
00:18:57WHAT WE KNOW FROM THE STATISTICS
, THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF FOLKS
00:19:09GETTING OFF ABUNDANT WOMEN ARE
ON THAT 4-18 MARKER -- GETTING
00:19:18OFF OF UNEMPLOYMENT ARE ON THAT
4-18 MARKER.
00:19:19THE NEXT SEGMENT GOES 16 WEEKS.
BEYOND THAT, THEY STAY ON UNTIL
00:19:28THEY ARE ALMOST OFF.
I'M MAKING SOME MUCH MONEY COME
00:19:33I CAN LIVE ON IT.
I WILL STAY CULPABLE.
00:19:34-- I MAKING SO MUCH MONEY, I CAN
LIVE ON IT.
00:19:36I WILL STAY COMFORTABLE.///
HOW CAN WE LOOK AT THESE FOLKS
00:19:48AND TAKE THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN
DOING OVER THE LAST THREE
00:19:50GENERAL ASSENT WAS TO TRY TO
PUSH AND PROMOTE -- INCLUDING
00:19:56LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE HELPING
FOLKS WITH A RESUME BUILDING,
00:19:59INTERVIEW SKILLS, JOB READINESS
SKILLS.
00:20:00HOW DO WE TAKE THOSE THINGS AND
HAVE THEM WORK?
00:20:03WE PUT PEOPLE IN A POSITION
WHERE THEY NEED TO PAY ATTENTION
00:20:08TO IT RIGHT AWAY.
THAT 12-20 WEEKS LIGHT DOES NOT
00:20:11MEAN EVERYBODY STARTS AT 12
WEEKS.
00:20:12IF OUR ECONOMY IS MOVING REALLY
WELL AND UNEMPLOYMENT IS LOW,
00:20:20YOU HAVE 12 WEEKS.
IF WE ARE IN A RECESSION, YOU GO
00:20:23TO 20 WEEKS.
WE KNOW IF THE FEDS COME IN AND
00:20:28ADD ADDITIONAL WEEKS, THOSE
LAYER ON TOP OF THAT.
00:20:32IT'S A WAY FOR US TO LOOK AT HOW
WE TAKE AND MOTIVATE THIS
00:20:37POPULATION.
IF WE ARE MISSING SOMETHING IN
00:20:39HERE THAT THE STATE SHOULD BE
DOING, WE NEED TO BE DOING THAT.
00:20:43WE NEED TO BE GIVING SOMEONE ON
UNEMPLOYMENT MORE THAN JUST A
00:20:49CHECK THAT SAYS HERE IS A CHECK,
GOOD LUCK.
00:20:50WE NEED TO SAY HERE IS A CHECK
TO HELP, BUT NOW GOES TO THESE
00:20:56FOLKS AND THESE FOLKS AND DO
THIS AND THIS.
00:20:57I'M NOT HELPING THEM IF ALL I'M
DOING IS GIVING THEM A CHECK.
00:21:01KAREN: THIS IS INCENTIVIZING
PEOPLE AND GIVING THEM SOME
00:21:05TOOLS.
THIS QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER
00:21:08THESE ARE ENOUGH TOOLS FOR
PEOPLE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING
00:21:12WORK.
FOR A NUMBER OF FACTORS.
00:21:15AGE, SKILL SET --
REPRESENTATIVE SEARS: SURE.
00:21:19COULD BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT
THINGS.
00:21:22IT IS UP TO US TO FIX THAT.
IT IS GOOD PUBLIC POLICY FOR US
00:21:31TO PUT TOGETHER THE PROGRAMS THE
PUBLIC SECTOR COULD BE DOING,
00:21:35MATCH THOSE WITH PRIVATE SECTOR
AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT
00:21:39TOOLS IN PLACE TO MOTIVATE
PEOPLE.
00:21:40IF WE ARE MISSING SOMETHING, WE
HAVE TO GET BUSY WORKING ON
00:21:44THAT.
THE ANSWER CANNOT BE WE ARE NOT
00:21:46GOING TO DO OUR JOBS, HERE'S A
CHECK.
00:21:48KAREN: I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
THINGS BURIED IN THIS BILL THAT
00:21:54HAVE RAISED RED FLAGS FOR PEOPLE
CONCERNED ABOUT EMPLOYEES AND
00:21:58REVISIONS TO ALLOW PEOPLE WHO
VIOLATE THE TERMS OF THEIR FLEET
00:22:01MANUAL TO NOT GET JOBLESS
BENEFITS.
00:22:02-- THEIR EMPLOYEE MANUAL.
IF THEY ARE NO LONGER QUALIFIED
00:22:09FOR A JOB, THEY WON'T GET
BENEFITS.
00:22:10TO THOSE IN SEEM LIKE THEY ARE
BENEFICIAL TO EMPLOYERS BUT NOT
00:22:14EMPLOYEES?
REPRESENTATIVE SEARS: IT WORKS
00:22:17BOTH WAYS.
IF BECAUSE OF THE INDUSTRY, YOUR
00:22:23JOB CHANGES DRAMATICALLY AND YOU
ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO DO THIS
00:22:25JOB, AN EMPLOYER COULD TERMINATE
YOU.
00:22:30IF YOU HAVE TO MODIFY THAT JOB
TO ALLOW AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME
00:22:34DIFFERENT KIND OF A JOB AND THAT
IN POLICE STILL CANNOT DO IT,
00:22:39THEY CAN BE TERMINATED.
-- AND AN EMPLOYEE STILL CANNOT
00:22:42DO IT, THEY CAN BE TERMINATED.
THE EMPLOYER IS NOT IN A
00:22:50POSITION OF SAYING I CANNOT GO
DOWN THIS PATH BECAUSE OF MY
00:22:52WORK WITH THE EMPLOYEE, I WILL
HAVE THIS LIABILITY ATTACHED TO
00:22:55ME.
IT EXTENDS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
00:23:00BOTH SIDES TO MAKE SOME THING
WORK.
00:23:01THE HANDBOOK IDEA, ALL WE ARE
DOING IS FLIPPING AROUND THE
00:23:08PREMISE.
RIGHT NOW, IF AN EMPLOYEE HAS A
00:23:13NO CALL NO SHOW FOR THREE DAYS.
THEY DON'T SHOW UP OR CALL IN
00:23:20FOR THREE DAYS IN A ROW, THEY
CAN BE TERMINATED
00:23:24WITHOUT A NEW PLYMOUTH BENEFITS.
GO TO A HEARING -- TERMINATED
00:23:27WITHOUT UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS.
WE JUST CHANGING THE STARTING
00:23:33LOCATION.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE AMENDED
00:23:38INTO THE BILL IS THE OPPORTUNITY
TO HAVE OHIO MOVED TO
00:23:41VIDEOCONFERENCING.
INSTEAD OF EVERYBODY HAVING TO
00:23:45COME DOWN TO COLUMBUS, OHIO, WE
CAN DO IT THROUGH
00:23:51VIDEOCONFERENCING, WHICH WILL
FREE UP THE ABILITY FOR THE
00:23:52PEOPLE WHO ARE UNEMPLOYED WHO
HAVE AN EXPENSE AND EMPLOYERS
00:23:59WHO HAVE AN EXPENSE AND COMING
DOWN TO COLUMBUS ALL THE TIME TO
00:24:00THEY NOW HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
DO IT OVER VIDEO.
00:24:03WHICH SHOULD FREE UP THE
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE OPEN
00:24:07CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHY SOMEBODY
IS UNEMPLOYED.
00:24:08KAREN: ADVOCATES WHO SAID THEY
WANT TO SCRAP THE ENTIRE BILL
00:24:15ENTIRELY, THEY DON'T FEEL ANY
CHANGES COULD BE MADE, ARE YOU
00:24:18OPEN TO NEGOTIATION ON THE KEY
POINTS OF THIS BILL?
00:24:20REPRESENTATIVE SEARS: I CAN
FAITHFULLY SAY I HAVE NOT TURN
00:24:28ANYONE AWAY FROM MY OFFICE WHO
HAS WANTED TO COME IN AND TALK
00:24:31TO ME ABOUT THE ON IMPLEMENT
LEGISLATION.
00:24:32I'VE ASKED FOR PEOPLE TO GET ME
LANGUAGE, GIVE ME WORDING THAT
00:24:36MAKES YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE.
LET ME SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
00:24:38SCRAPPING THE BILL IS NOT SOME
THING I'M INTERESTED IN DOING.
00:24:44I'VE BEEN SPENDING TIME WORKING
ON THE ON IMPLEMENT ISSUE IN THE
00:24:50STATE OF OHIO SINCE 2009.
-- THE UNEMPLOYMENT ISSUE IN THE
00:24:55STATE OF OHIO SINCE 2000 AND.
MY ENTIRE LEGISLATIVE CAREER.
00:24:57-- THE UNEMPLOYMENT ISSUE IN THE
STATE OF OHIO SINCE 2009.
00:25:04IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW, I DON'T
KNOW WHEN WE DO IT.
00:25:08THE TIME IS NOW.
I'M ALWAYS WILLING AND ALWAYS
00:25:15HAVE IN ALL THE LEGISLATION I'VE
WORKED ON, WILLING TO TALK TO
00:25:18GROUPS.
WE ARE TALKING THE SAME GROUPS
00:25:23OF FOLKS.
THEY KNOW ME, THEY KNOW MYSELF
00:25:27NUMBER.
-- MY CELL NUMBER.
00:25:31THEY CAN TEXT ME.
KAREN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
00:25:35BEING HERE.
AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
00:25:39FOR MY COLLEAGUES AT OHIO PUBLIC
RADIO AND TELEVISION, THANKS FOR
00:25:41WATCHING.
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00:25:58ANDY CHOW AND ME ON TWITTER.
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