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00:00:01>> SUPPORT FOR "THE STATE OF
OHIO" COMES FROM -- SOLVING
00:00:15COMPLEX LEGAL PROBLEMS AROUND
THE WORLD.
00:00:16ON THE WEB AT PORTER WRIGHT.COM.
AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
00:00:20ASSOCIATION, THE PRESENTING
SUPPORT PROFESSIONALS IN HIGHER
00:00:26EDUCATION FACULTY, COMMITTED TO
THE SUCCESS OF EVERY CHILD.
00:00:27>> THE SUPREME COURT RULES ON A
CASE REGARDING THE TRANSPARENCY
00:00:31OF THE GOVERNOR'S SCHEDULE.
QUESTIONS CONTINUE TO DOG THE
00:00:34DEMOCRATS ABOUT THEIR CANDIDATE
AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET.
00:00:39AND IS THAT HEADLINING RACE
OVER?
00:00:40TWO POLITICAL SCIENTISTS WEIGH
IN ON THAT QUESTION AND MORE.
00:00:43ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO."
00:00:50THE OHIO SUPREME COURT HAS
AGREED WITH GOV. JOHN KASICH IN
00:00:57A BATTLE OVER RELEASING HIS
PUBLIC SCHEDULE.
00:01:01IN A UNANIMOUS OPINION, THE HIGH
COURT REJECTED THE PROGRESSIVE
00:01:05BLOG PLUNDERBUND'S DEFINITION OF
"SECURITY RECORDS" IN SEEKING
00:01:07THE DOCUMENTS.
THE STATE SAID OHIO
00:01:10PUBLIC-RECORDS LAW CLEARLY
ALLOWS THREATS TO BE SHIELDED
00:01:13FROM PUBLIC VIEW FOR KASICH'S
PROTECTION, WHILE THE BLOG SAID
00:01:16THAT DEFINITION WAS TOO BROAD.
HE SAID HE WOULD NOT REVEAL HIS
00:01:26SCHEDULE BECAUSE OF SECURITY
THREATS.
00:01:27PLUNDERBUND SOUGHT CLOSED
INVESTIGATION FILES ON ANY
00:01:29THREATS TO KASICH OR HIS STAFF.
DURING ARGUMENTS IN MAY, JUSTICE
00:01:31PAUL PFEIFER SAID THAT WHILE HE
FELT THE CASE WAS ABOUT VERY
00:01:33LITTLE AT ALL, HE ALSO EXPRESSED
CONCERN THAT SINCE SO LITTLE
00:01:36INFORMATION IS BEING RELEASED BY
THE STATE UNDER THE SHIELD OF
00:01:39"SECURITY CONCERNS."
>> HOW DOES THE LEGISLATURE
00:01:46FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH SECURITY IS
NECESSARY FOR PUBLIC OFFICIALS
00:01:56IF THE APPROACH IS, WE CAN'T
HAVE YOU ANYTHING?
00:01:59BUT WE HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS
GOING ON.
00:02:06MAYBE THERE ISN'T MUCH.
EVERYBODY'S LEFT IN THE DARK, SO
00:02:10THE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS RUN
AWAY WITH IT ALL.
00:02:19>> THIS IS NOT JUST AD HOC
REASONING.
00:02:23THE HIGHWAY PATROL ARE HIGHLY
KNOWLEDGEABLE.
00:02:30THEY WORK WITH THE FBI, THE
SECRET SERVICE, ON WHY THREAT
00:02:40INFORMATION SHOULD NOT BE
RELEASED.
00:02:41WHILE AT SINGLE DOCUMENT MAY
LOOK INNOCUOUS, TERRORISTS AND
00:02:49BAD PEOPLE WHO WOULD SEEK TO
HARM OR INTIMIDATE --
00:02:50>> YOU KEEP THROWING THIS WORD
TERRORIST AROUND, WHICH SCARES
00:02:56EVERYBODY.
MAYBE I'M JUST AN OLD-FASHIONED
00:03:01SKEPTIC, I DON'T BELIEVE OHIO IS
OVERRUN BY TERRORISTS.
00:03:04>> TERRORISTS TAKE MANY FORMS.
I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT AL
00:03:11QAEDA.
THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WITH
00:03:15AGENDAS AND GROUPS WITH AGENDAS.
THE FACTS YOU HAVE NOT HEARD
00:03:20ABOUT IT PROBABLY MEANS THE
PATROL IS DOING THEIR JOB WELL
00:03:26AND RECORDS LIKE THIS ARE NOT TO
BE DISCLOSED PUBLICLY.
00:03:29>> IT MIGHT ALSO MEAN THERE IS
NOT MUCH GOING ON.
00:03:31>> INTERESTINGLY, KASICH'S
DEMOCRATIC OPPONENT, ED
00:03:34FITZGERALD, HAS DECLINED TO
RELEASE DATA FROM PARKING CARD
00:03:36AND KEY CARD SWIPES AS CUYAHOGA
COUNTY EXECUTIVE ALSO CITING
00:03:38SECURITY CONCERNS.
THE HEARINGS ON THE REPEAL OF
00:03:41THE COMMON CORE EDUCATION
STANDARDS CONTINUED THIS WEEK,
00:03:44WITH THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE REPEAL
TURNING OUT.
00:03:48THE NUMBER OF REPEAL OPPONENTS
WHO PROVIDED TESTIMONY TO THE
00:03:50COMMITTEE OVERWHELMED THE NUMBER
OF SUPPORTERS - MORE THAN 120
00:03:56PEOPLE EITHER PROVIDED WRITTEN
TESTIMONY OR OFFERED TO SPEAK TO
00:03:58THE RULES COMMITTEE, COMPARED TO
MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE OPPOSED TO
00:04:00COMMON CORE WHO TESTIFIED LAST
WEEK.
00:04:04MANY OF THOSE WHO ARE AGAINST
THE REPEAL ARE WITH EDUCATION
00:04:07AND BUSINESS GROUPS, SUCH AS
TEACHERS UNIONS, SCHOOL BOARDS,
00:04:10AND CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE.
>> WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS
00:04:17ISSUE MANY YEARS AND FEEL
STRONGLY THAT RIGOROUS STANDARDS
00:04:22ARE KEY.
MAINTAINING RIGOROUS STANDARDS
00:04:30THAT OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS, OUR
CHILDREN AND STUDENTS, TEACHERS,
00:04:34ADMINISTRATION, PARENTS, MEDIA
CAN BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND AND
00:04:39INCORPORATE IN OUR CULTURE.
SO THAT HE CAN MEASURE
00:04:44OURSELVES, WE CAN MEASURE US
AGAINST OTHERS IN THE STATE,
00:04:47OUTSIDE OF THE STATE AND
INTERNATIONALLY.
00:04:49WE NEED TO CHILDREN WHO NOT ONLY
CAN LEARN MATH, BUT CAN USE IT.
00:04:56AND FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT IT.
>> WE NEED PEOPLE WHO CAN WORK
00:05:01AND WE DON'T HAVE TO RETRAIN
THEM.
00:05:04>> THIS WEEK ALSO FEATURED
TESTIMONY FROM EXPERTS WHO
00:05:07HELPED DEVELOP THE COMMON CORE
STANDARDS THAT WERE ADOPTED BY
00:05:09MORE THAN 40 STATES IN 2010.
A VOTE COULD HAPPEN IN THE RULES
00:05:13COMMITTEE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS,
BUT A VOTE BY THE FULL HOUSE
00:05:16WON'T HAPPEN TILL AFTER THE
NOVEMBER ELECTION.
00:05:19SPEAKING OF, THERE ARE LESS THAN
70 DAYS TILL ELECTION DAY.
00:05:23AND REGISTERED VOTERS WITH
UP-TO-DATE ADDRESSES WILL SOON
00:05:25START SEEING ABSENTEE BALLOT
APPLICATIONS IN THEIR
00:05:27MAILBOXES.
00:05:30SECRETARY OF STATE JON HUSTED
SAYS OHIO VOTERS SHOULD BEGIN
00:05:32GETTING THE APPLICATIONS AROUND
LABOR DAY.
00:05:35OHIOANS CAN CAST AN ABSENTEE
BALLOT BY MAIL OR IN PERSON
00:05:38WITHOUT GIVING ANY REASON.
A STATE LAW ALLOWS ONLY THE
00:05:41SECRETARY OF STATE TO SEND OUT
THOSE APPLICATIONS.
00:05:44BEFORE, COUNTY BOARDS OF
ELECTIONS COULD SEND THEM OUT,
00:05:47WHICH HUSTED SAID LED TO VOTER
DISPARITY.
00:05:50IN 2012, ABOUT 1.3 MILLION
OHIOANS VOTED BY MAIL. ANOTHER
00:05:54600,500 VOTED EARLY IN PERSON.
EARLY VOTING BEGINS OCTOBER 7.
00:05:59AND THERE WON'T BE ANY WRITE-IN
CANDIDATES FOR STATEWIDE OFFICE
00:06:03ON THE BALLOT.
HUSTED'S OFFICE SAYS THERE MAY
00:06:06BE SOME PEOPLE WHO'VE FILED TO
RUN AS WRITE-INS IN STATE HOUSE
00:06:08OR CONGRESSIONAL RACES, BUT THE
PAPERWORK ISN'T BACK YET.
00:06:13LABOR DAY HAS TRADITIONALLY BEEN
THE START OF THE FALL ELECTION
00:06:16SEASON.
BUT THE CAMPAIGNS THAT VOTERS
00:06:18WILL DECIDE ON THE NOVEMBER
ELECTION HAVE BEEN GOING FOR A
00:06:25LONG WHILE.
IT WAS LONG UNDERSTOOD THAT
00:06:27REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT JOHN KASICH
WOULD RUN FOR RE-ELECTION,
00:06:29THOUGH HE NEVER HELD AN OFFICIAL
CAMPAIGN LAUNCH.
00:06:30AND DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR
GOVERNOR ED FITZGERALD ANNOUNCED
00:06:32HE WAS RUNNING IN APRIL OF LAST
YEAR.
00:06:35BUT SINCE THEN, FITZGERALD HAS
FACED SOME BIG PROBLEMS A
00:06:38RUNNING MATE WITH TAX PROBLEMS,
LOW POLL AND FUNDRAISING
00:06:42NUMBERS, A POLICE REPORT SHOWING
HIM AT 4:30 IN THE MORNING IN A
00:06:46CAR WITH A WOMAN HE'S NOT
MARRIED TO, AND THEN THE
00:06:47DISCLOSURE HE DIDN'T HAVE A
VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE FOR A
00:06:49DECADE.
THE OHIO DEMOCRATIC PARTY HELD
00:06:53AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING
THIS WEEK ON MATTERS UNRELATED
00:06:55TO THE TOP OF THE TICKET.
OUR JO INGLES TOOK THE
00:06:58OPPORTUNITY TO ASK CHAIRMAN
CHRIS REDFERN ABOUT THAT -
00:07:02HERE'S HIS ANSWER, COURTESY OF
MARC KOVAC AT OHIO CAPITAL BLOG.
00:07:04>> LET ME ASK YOU THE QUESTION
THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, SOMEBODY
00:07:13SAID YOU DID NOT VET YOUR
GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE WELL
00:07:20ENOUGH.
WHAT ABOUT IT?
00:07:21IS THERE ANY CHANCE YOU MIGHT
DECIDE TO TAKE HIM OFF THE
00:07:25TICKET?
>> WE DON'T TYPICALLY, FOR THOSE
00:07:29OF YOU THIS IS THE FIRST TIME, I
REALLY ANSWER DIRECTLY ABOUT
00:07:34SUCH QUESTIONS.
THE VETTING IS ALWAYS DONE
00:07:37WITHIN EACH CAMPAIGN.
IT IS A FUNCTION OF THE
00:07:42INCUMBENTS, THE 33 SENATE AS
WELL AS THE 6, 7, AND THEN THE
00:07:46FEDERAL CANDIDATES.
VETTING IS AN INTERESTING WORD
00:07:55OFTEN TIME MENTIONED BY THOSE
WHO ARE NOT EDUCATED IN THE
00:07:58FIELD OF POLITICS AND HOW
POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS ARE RUN.
00:08:01I THINK HAVING NOT GROWN UP IN
COLUMBUS, BUT LIVED IN A PLACE
00:08:07LIKE BROOKLYN, WHERE YOU KNOCK
ON SCREEN DOORS, AND HAVING TOWN
00:08:13HALLS, AND I MET MEMBER OF THE
LEGISLATURE, I'VE HAD MORE THAN
00:08:1990 TOWN HALL MEETINGS.
I CAN TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF
00:08:20TIMES THE LAST MONTH MY DOOR TO
DOOR, I'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT
00:08:24WHETHER FITZGERALD HAD A
DRIVERS LICENSE OVER 10 YEARS,
00:08:31TWO YEARS, EIGHT YEARS, WHATEVER
THE TIME.
00:08:33WHY OTTAWA COUNTY IS AMONG THE
HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN THE
00:08:39STATE AND OF THE TIME WHEN HALF
A MILLION OHIOANS WENT WITHOUT
00:08:47DRINKING WATER, WHY IS IT THE
GOVERNOR WANTS TO REPEAL THE
00:08:50CLEAN WATER ACT AND EVERYTHING
THAT IMPLIES SAFE DRINKING WATER
00:08:55ACROSS THE STATE?
I MENTION THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE
00:08:59SO MANY MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES
OHIOANS ARE CONFRONTED WITH.
00:09:02WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THOSE ARE
THE KINDS OF ISSUES AND THE
00:09:08SOLUTIONS TO THOSE CONCERNS WE
ARE GOING TO OFFER.
00:09:10WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT THE NEXT
69 DAYS.
00:09:13YOU MAY BE TIRED OF THAT ANSWER.
IT IS THE ANSWER OHIOANS WANT TO
00:09:22HEAR.
IT IS NOT THE ANSWER THE
00:09:23EDITORIAL PAGE WANTS TO HEAR.
IT IS NOT THE KINDS OF THINGS
00:09:29SOME PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR.
IT IS GOING TO BE WHAT WE ARE
00:09:33GOING TO SAY BECAUSE OHIOANS
WANT TO KNOW WHAT JOHN KASICH
00:09:38HAS DONE.
>> AND FITZGERALD'S PRESS
00:09:40SECRETARY LAUREN HITT PUT OUT AN
EMAIL THIS WEEK THAT CONFIRMED
00:09:42SHE WAS STAYING IN THAT
POSITION, AND CONFIRMED THE
00:09:44DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S STRATEGY IS
NOW LARGELY TURNING AWAY FROM
00:09:46THE MAN AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET
WHEN IT SAID --
00:09:53IT DID NOT MENTION FITZGERALD BY
NAME.
00:09:57THEY SAID "WE HAVE EVERY
INTENTION OF CONTINUING TO WAGE
00:10:01A COMPETITIVE, VOCAL CAMPAIGN
AGAINST GOVERNOR KASICH AND HIS
00:10:02RECORD IN OHIO.
WE WILL BE MAKING A SIGNIFICANT
00:10:04INVESTMENT IN ODP'S FIELD AND
VOTER TURNOUT PROGRAM.
00:10:06WITH EARLY VOTE APPROACHING,
THIS STRATEGIC SHIFT IN
00:10:07RESOURCES WILL ALLOW US TO FOCUS
ON TURNING OUT THE SPORADIC
00:10:09DEMOCRATIC VOTERS WHO HAVE MADE
THE DIFFERENCE IN SO MANY PAST
00:10:14ELECTIONS."
AND NOW FOR SOME MORE IN-DEPTH
00:10:18ANALYSIS OF THIS FALL'S BALLOT,
I'M PLEASED TO WELCOME TWO
00:10:20POLITICAL SCIENTISTS WHO'VE BEEN
LOOKING INTO IT.
00:10:24SUZANNE MARILLEY IS AN ASSOCIATE
PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL SCIENCE
00:10:26AT CAPITAL UNIVERSITY IN BEXLEY
NEAR COLUMBUS.
00:10:29DAVID NIVEN IS AN ASSOCIATE
PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL SCIENCE
00:10:31AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CINCINNATI.
LET ME ASK BOTH OF YOU A
00:10:39QUESTION A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
WONDERING, LESS THAN 70 DAYS
00:10:43BEFORE THE VOTE.
IS THE GOVERNOR'S RACE OVER?
00:10:46>> PROBABLY FOR ALL INTENTS AND
PURPOSES IT MAY WELL BE.
00:10:53TYPICALLY THE TURNOUT DROPS EVEN
THOUGH IT IS AN ON YEAR
00:11:05ELECTION.
UNLESS SOMETHING MAJOR HAPPENS
00:11:06THAT PUTS THE KASICH CAMPAIGN
INTO A KERFUFFLE, THERE COULD BE
00:11:12A PROBLEM.
ON THE OTHER HAND, PEOPLE HAVE
00:11:14NOT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION, AND
THERE ARE THESE UNDECIDEDS, YOU
00:11:20NEVER CAN TELL WHAT MIGHT
HAPPEN.
00:11:21>> INDEED, THERE STILL ARE SOME
UNDECIDED FOLKS.
00:11:27A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE NOT HEARD
OF AND FITZGERALD.
00:11:28>> THE PROBLEM FOR THE CAMPAIGN,
THEY HAVE SURRENDERED.
00:11:32THERE IS NOT A CAMPAIGN LEFT FOR
THEM TO PRESENT TO THE UNDECIDED
00:11:37VOTER.
THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY MONEY.
00:11:39THE CANDIDATE IS GOING AROUND
QUIETLY AROUND THE STATE TRYING
00:11:44NOT TO UPSET ANYONE ELSE IN THE
REMAINING DAYS.
00:11:47THEY SIMPLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING
LEFT TO SELL.
00:11:51THE REAL PROBLEM FOR THE
DEMOCRATS, THE GENERAL HAS
00:11:53SURRENDERED AND THERE ARE OTHER
FOLKS BATTLING THE OTHER
00:11:59STATEWIDE CANDIDATES.
WHO ARE LEFT TO RUN WITHOUT A
00:12:02LEADER IN A RACE >> THAT HAS
BEEN SURRENDERED.
00:12:05WHAT DO YOU THINK THE EFFECT IS
GOING TO BE WHERE YOU HAVE FOUR
00:12:10INCUMBENTS AGAINST FOUR
CHALLENGERS?
00:12:13THE REPUBLICANS STILL OUTNUMBER,
HAVE BIGGER BANK ACCOUNTS.
00:12:21WHAT DO YOU THINK THE EFFECT IS
GOING TO BE?
00:12:22>> THOSE ARE SOME OF THE MAIN
VICTIMS.
00:12:25RUNNING FOR TREASURER, SOMEBODY
WHO IN AN EVEN YEAR IS PROBABLY
00:12:31A FAVORITE TO WIN.
THE SAME RACE.
00:12:352012, SHE WOULD PROBABLY WIN.
IN THIS ATMOSPHERE, THIS IS A
00:12:40VERY HARD LEFT.
THINK ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC
00:12:44ACTIVIST WHO WOULD OTHERWISE
KNOCK ON A THOUSAND DOORS AND
00:12:48HOW DISPIRITED IT IS WHEN YOU'RE
TOP OF THE TICKET HAS
00:12:53DISAPPEARED FROM THE CAMPAIGN.
IT DOES NOT SEEM PLAUSIBLE SO A
00:12:58LOT OF THOSE FOLKS TO HOME.
WHICH MEANS CONNIE DOES NOT GET
00:13:02ALL OF THOSE VOTES WHO WOULD
HAVE VOTED THE WHOLE TICKET.
00:13:04>> TYPICALLY I WOULD AGREE WITH
THAT.
00:13:10WHAT WE HAVE THAT IS DIFFERENT
NOW AND SINCE 2008 IS THE OBAMA
00:13:14CAMPAIGN BUILT AN INCREDIBLE
MACHINE.
00:13:18THEY ARE RAISING MONEY.
THEY ARE ORGANIZED.
00:13:20IF THEY PUT THEIR GET OUT THE
VOTE OPERATION INTO HALF WHAT IT
00:13:27WAS IN 2012, I THINK MANY OF
THOSE CANDIDATES COULD BENEFIT
00:13:33TREMENDOUSLY FROM IT.
>> IF THEY COULD DO HALF OF WHAT
00:13:38THEY DID, THEY WOULD BE MIRACLE
WORKERS.
00:13:40THEY HAVE A GREAT FORMULA, BUT
IT DEPENDS ON A WILLINGNESS OF
00:13:43VOLUNTEERS AND THE PERSON WHO
OPENS THE DOOR, THEY CAN'T SLAM
00:13:47THE DOOR ON YOU FOR THAT MESSAGE
TO COME THROUGH.
00:13:50>> THAT IS TRUE.
MUCH OF WHAT THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN
00:13:54HAD DONE WAS TO E-MAIL, TWITTER.
NOT NECESSARILY PERSON-TO-PERSON
00:14:00CONTACT.
VARIOUS KINDS OF THINGS.
00:14:03WHO KNOWS HOW MUCH MONEY THE
DEMOCRATS WILL PUT INTO OHIO AND
00:14:11HELP WITH THE RACES.
WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE END.
00:14:13WE HAVE TO REMEMBER MANY PEOPLE
DO NOT EVEN PAY ATTENTION TO THE
00:14:17ELECTION UNTIL THE END OF
SEPTEMBER.
00:14:20YOU DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME FOR
LOCAL STATE RACES AND WE DON'T
00:14:27HAVE ANYONE RUNNING FOR SENATE
IN OHIO, U.S. SENATE.
00:14:30SO BASICALLY, I WILL RETURN TO
THIS CONVERSATION ON OCTOBER 15.
00:14:41IF THE PAST EXPERIENCE,
ABSOLUTELY, DAVID IS CORRECT.
00:14:44THIS YEAR COULD BE DIFFERENT.
THERE IS THIS PROJECT GOING ON
00:14:49WHERE IT IS EARNEST TO ENCOURAGE
COLLEGE STUDENTS TO PAY
00:14:54ATTENTION AND WITHOUT AN PROOF,
YES, WE DO CARE.
00:14:58AND THEIR VOTES HAVE BEEN
DEMOCRATIC PRETTY MUCH IN OHIO.
00:15:04>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SOME
OTHER SPECIFIC LOCKS, WOMEN,
00:15:11DEMOCRATS STARTING IN JANUARY
WERE TRYING TO WOO WOMEN VOTE.
00:15:19LET ME ASK YOU, WHAT DO YOU
THINK THIS LOOKS LIKE FOR WOMEN
00:15:25VOTERS?
>> I NEVER KNOW.
00:15:28WOMEN ARE VARIED ACROSS THE
BOARD.
00:15:33AND BUSY.
SO TURNOUT COULD BE VARIABLE.
00:15:41ALTHOUGH UNMARRIED WOMEN ALSO
SUPPORT DEMOCRATS, AND THEY HAVE
00:15:47BEEN TARGETED AND WILL CONTINUE
TO BE.
00:15:48THE PLANS FOR THE 2016 CAMPAIGN
ARE IN THE WORKS.
00:15:53AND I HAVE TO SAY WOMEN CARRIED
PLENTY OF THE BURDEN WITH HEALTH
00:16:00CARE.
2014, YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THE
00:16:02RESPONSE TO THE AFFORDABLE CARE
ACT AND INSOFAR AS WOMEN HAVE
00:16:08FOUND THE PRESSURES OF MANAGING
THAT CARE EASIER, THERE MAY BE A
00:16:18THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE
DEMOCRATS FOR THAT.
00:16:19>> WOMEN, AFRICAN-AMERICANS, ANY
GROUP MIGHT SEE THE ELECTION
00:16:24DIFFERENTLY?
>> THEY MIGHT, IF THERE WAS AN
00:16:28ALTERNATE VOICE.
THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF
00:16:32THING, WHEN FITZGERALD STARTED
EMPLOYING, SHARON DISAPPEARED.
00:16:36THE MESSAGE SHE MIGHT HAVE BEEN
PUTTING OUT WAS A SILENCED.
00:16:43SHE WENT A MONTH BETWEEN TWEET.
IN THE HEART OF THE CAMPAIGN.
00:16:47THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE WILL
STILL BE THERE FOR DEMOCRATS,
00:16:56BUT HOW DO YOU SELL PEOPLE ON
VOTING EVEN WHEN THERE IS NOT A
00:17:00LOT OF HOPE?
>> WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE.
00:17:04COULD THERE BE AN OVERCONFIDENT
REPUBLICAN CONTINGENT BUT DOES
00:17:10NOT TURNOUT AND THEN YOU HAVE A
CLOSER RACE?
00:17:13>> YOU DO SEE A FEW OF THOSE
REPUBLICANS.
00:17:17YOU DON'T NEED TO WORK AS HARD
TO WIN THIS THING.
00:17:21THAT WILL DEPRESS TURNOUT A
LITTLE BIT.
00:17:26IT IS MORE FUN TO CAST A VOTE
FOR A WINNER THAN A LOSER.
00:17:28>> WHEN THEY HAVE A QUARTERBACK
THAT WAS NOT HURT.
00:17:35>> I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO BE
THERE.
00:17:40WHEN YOU LOOK AT TURNOUT IN
2010, IT WAS UNDER 50%.
00:17:45HOW ARE WE GOING TO APPROACH
THAT WHEN NOT ONLY IS THIS GOING
00:17:51TO BE A ONE-SIDED CONVERSATION,
SOME OF THE REPUBLICAN MONEY IS
00:17:54GOING TO BE PULLED OUT OF OHIO
AND SENT TO FLORIDA.
00:17:55>> THAT'S GOOD -- THAT COULD BE
AND THIS IS THE TIME TO RAISE A
00:18:03QUESTION OF, DO WE WANT TO LIVE
IN A WORLD WITH SUCH AMAZING
00:18:07GERRYMANDERING THAT PRETTY MUCH
GUARANTEES ONE PARTY MAJORITY?
00:18:10AND THE LEVELS OF INCUMBENCY,
WITHOUT TURNOVER, SO THAT YOU
00:18:18ARE REALLY NOT HAVING MUCH
DIALOGUE BETWEEN EITHER PARTIES'
00:18:21ELECTED CANDIDATES AND HOW MUCH
IT IS COSTING.
00:18:26EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW THINGS ARE
UNLIKELY TO CHANGE, AND IF THEY
00:18:29DON'T, THE SENSE OF, IS THIS
LEGITIMATE?
00:18:34ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, WITH
SUCH HIGH LEVELS OF INCUMBENCY,
00:18:41A LACK OF DIALOGUE, AND REFUSALS
TO NEGOTIATE.
00:18:44THE AMERICAN POLITICAL SCIENCE
ASSOCIATION TASK FORCE REPORT ON
00:18:49NEGOTIATING WAS PUBLISHED IN
DECEMBER OF 2013.
00:18:54IT BEARS SOME ATTENTION.
OUR SYSTEM WAS ONE OF
00:18:59COMPROMISE, WE CAN SOLVE THIS,
AND THAT HAS DISAPPEARED.
00:19:06I'M NERVOUS ABOUT OUR POLITICAL
SYSTEM WITH THIS PROBLEM OF HIGH
00:19:13LEVELS OF INCUMBENCY, FROZEN
SYSTEM OF REPRESENTATION, AND
00:19:21MONEY SPENT ON IT.
IT IS UNSUSTAINABLE.
00:19:23>> OBAMA DID WIN OHIO IN 2012.
OHIO IS A KEY STATE IN EVERY
00:19:32PRESIDENTIAL RACE.
IS THIS A STATE ESTATE THE
00:19:35DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO GIVE UP
ON AFTER WINNING IN 2012?
00:19:37LOVE THE NATIONAL -- WILL THE
NATIONAL PARTY GIVE UP ON OHIO?
00:19:43>> THAT IS A FAIR QUESTION.
I DOUBT IT.
00:19:48EVERY CAMPAIGN CAN RUN AS A
DIFFERENT OPERATION FROM ALL OF
00:19:54THE REST OF THE CAMPAIGNS IN THE
STATE.
00:19:55IT ALL REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
AGAIN, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW.
00:19:59>> YOU CAN'T GIVE UP ON OHIO.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A STATE
00:20:08WHERE BARACK OBAMA WAS ABLE TO,
AS WE SAID, GET THE VOTE OUT.
00:20:14THIS IS AN ABERRATION.
YOU ARE RIGHT TO SAY BEFORE THE
00:20:24RACE EVEN STARTED, THE
REPUBLICANS WERE GOING TO WIN
00:20:26THE CONGRESSIONAL SEATS IN OHIO.
BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE DISTRICTS
00:20:33WERE DRAWN.
STATEWIDE, THIS IS A COMPETITIVE
00:20:35STATE.
YOU LOOK AT THE LAST DECADE OR
00:20:41SO, REPUBLICANS BELIEVE THIS IS
WINNABLE FOR THEM.
00:20:42THAT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE
WITHOUT MAJOR DEMOGRAPHIC
00:20:46CHANGES.
>> IF YOU SEE A KASICH WIN,
00:20:55WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF
HIS, WELL, RUMOR AND AMBITIONS
00:21:00TO RUN FOR THE PRESIDENCY?
>> IT WILL HELP HIM AND TELL THE
00:21:06SAME STORY CHRIS CHRISTIE WANTED
TO TELL ABOUT WINNING IN A
00:21:10COMPETITIVE STATE.
THERE IS A NO POLL THAT GAVE
00:21:13IOWA VOTERS 14 REPUBLICAN
CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT AND
00:21:21JOHN KASICH HIM IN 14 OUT OF 14.
HE DOES NOT HAVE THE NATIONAL
00:21:24SIZZLE.
HIS SCENARIO IS LAST SANE MAN
00:21:27STANDING.
PLUG AWAY.
00:21:30THE HARD PART OF THAT, YOU HAVE
TO BE WILLING TO LOSE IOWA.
00:21:36YOU HAVE TO LOSE NEW HAMPSHIRE
AND KEEP PLUGGING AWAY.
00:21:40HE DOES NOT SEEM LIKE THE KIND
OF GUY WHO HAS THAT PATIENTS.
00:21:44IN 1999, HE JUMPED OUT OF THE
PRESIDENTIAL RACE.
00:21:48>> AND HE HAS A LEGISLATURE THAT
HAS SHOWN TO BE GOING FURTHER TO
00:21:56THE RIGHT THEN HE WANTS TO.
>> THAT IS TRUE.
00:21:59AND YET HE HAS TO HAVE APPEAL
FOR ANYONE WHO HAS POLITICAL
00:22:05SAVVY ON MOVING TO THE MIDDLE.
HIS MANAGEMENT OF THE MEDICAID,
00:22:14WITH THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, IT
WAS MASTERFUL.
00:22:18EVEN WITHOUT THE FITZGERALD MESS
UP, PROBABLY GUARANTEED HIM THE
00:22:26GOVERNORSHIP.
I THINK HE IS A PERFECT VICE
00:22:27PRESIDENTIAL PERSON FOR THE
REPUBLICANS IN 2016.
00:22:31IF HE REALLY WANTED IT, AND TOOK
THE TIME TO PREPARE AND FIGURE
00:22:41IT OUT, I CAN'T IMAGINE HE WOULD
NOT HAVE SOME APPEAL FOR THE
00:22:45REPUBLICANS IN 2016 30 THEM SURE
THE DEMOCRATS WOULD BE
00:22:49TERRIFIED.
>> THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A
00:22:53SLAMDUNK WIN.
THIS IS A GUY WHO OFFENDED TWO
00:22:56THIRDS OF THE STATE.
THIS WAS NOT A SLAMDUNK
00:22:59COLLECTION.
UNTIL FITZGERALD HANDED HIM THE
00:23:03BALL.
>> LET ME ASK YOU FINALLY, THERE
00:23:10MIGHT BE ONE GROUP THAT SAYS
THEY ARE THE REAL LOSERS,
00:23:15INDEPENDENT VOTERS.
THERE ARE NO INDEPENDENT
00:23:16CANDIDATES.
THERE IS A GREEN PARTY
00:23:19CANDIDATE.
INDEPENDENT VOTERS, DO YOU SEE
00:23:21THEM PLAYING A ROLE?
>> IN FACT, WHAT I THINK COULD
00:23:24HAPPEN THAT MANY DEMOCRATS WERE
LOOKING AT, THE ALMOST CERTAIN
00:23:33FAILURE FITZGERALD, MIGHT SAY
ISN'T IT TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT
00:23:36THE GREENS?
LOOK AT THE CLIMATE CHANGE
00:23:40PROBLEMS.
EVERYBODY HAS LIVED THROUGH THIS
00:23:44WEIRD WEATHER.
USUALLY I WOULD NOT SAY THE
00:23:48WEATHER IS A FACTOR, DEPENDING
WHAT HAPPENS IN THE WEATHER, AND
00:23:51THE APPEALS OF, I DON'T KNOW,
SOME GODFATHER, SUGAR DADDY,
00:23:59MOTHER, GIVES A LOT OF MONEY TO
THE GREEN PARTY, THEY COULD GET
00:24:02SOME TRACTION.
HARD TO KNOW.
00:24:04THEY WILL NOT DEFEAT JOHN
KASICH.
00:24:06>> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT
YEAR FOR THE LIBERTARIANS TO BE
00:24:11ON THE BALLOT.
THEY COULD INJECT SOME
00:24:14EXCITEMENT INTO THE RACE.
THERE WILL BE A FEW OF THOSE
00:24:17MONKS WHO WOULD VOTE FOR THEM --
FOLKS WHO WOULD VOTE FOR THEM.
00:24:21THE IRONY IS REPUBLICANS WORKED
HARD TO KEEP LIBERTARIANS OFF
00:24:27THE BALLOT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT
WANT TO LOSE THAT 2%.
00:24:28>> THEY HAVE ONE LAST SHOT, IT
IS A SLINGSHOT.
00:24:35>> THERE ARE LOSERS.
THE DOWN TICKETS FOR DEMOCRATS
00:24:36ARE LOSERS.
FOLKS WHO GIVE THEIR CREDIBILITY
00:24:44TO FITZGERALD AND HAVE TO SUFFER
WITH HIM IN THIS CAMPAIGN.
00:24:46>> IN ALL THE YEARS YOU HAVE
BEEN WATCHING, IS THIS A
00:24:51CAMPAIGN YOU WILL REMEMBER?
>> AGAIN, I'M LEERY OF
00:24:56PREDICTING ANYTHING.
I'M ACTUALLY VERY CURIOUS TO SEE
00:25:02WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE
YOUNGER VOTERS AND WHETHER THEY
00:25:05WILL TRY DO HAVE A MOMENT, MAKE
A SPLASH OF SAINT PAY ATTENTION
00:25:12TO US.
WE REALLY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
00:25:15WE WILL SEE.
>> I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE
00:25:22UNFORGETTABLE.
THE FITZGERALD CAMPAIGN WAS AKIN
00:25:25TO THE TITANIC.
THAT IS NOT FAIR TO THE TITANIC.
00:25:26[LAUGHTER]
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00:25:35THE FOUR STATEWIDE EXECUTIVE
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NEXT WEEK WE BEGIN WITH THE
00:25:42CANDIDATES FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL,
REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT MIKE DEWINE
00:25:44AND DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGER DAVID
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