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00:00:01BROADCAST OF "THE STATE OF
OHIO" COMES FROM THE LAW
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00:00:05THROUGHOUT OHIO, ACROSS THE
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00:00:14AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
00:00:15131,000 TEACHERS, SUPPORT
PROFESSIONALS AND HIGHER
00:00:16EDUCATION FACULTY WHO ARE
WORKING FOR GREAT PUBLIC
00:00:17SCHOOLS FOR EVERY CHILD --
ONLINE AT OHEA.ORG.
00:00:29>> GAY RIGHTS ADVOCATES ARE
ONCE AGAIN TALKING ABOUT
00:00:32LEGALIZING SAME SEX MARRIAGE IN
OHIO, BUT ARE STILL NOT ON THE
00:00:34SAME PAGE ON HOW TO DO IT.
MEDICAID WILL BE ON THE FRONT
00:00:39BURNER WHEN LAWMAKERS RETURN
NEXT MONTH.
00:00:41WE'LL HEAR FROM THE REPUBLICAN
LEGISLATOR WHO'S PUT HER NAME
00:00:44ON THE ONLY BILL THAT WOULD
EXPAND MEDICAID AS GOVERNOR
00:00:47JOHN KASICH PROPOSED.
AND INMATES ARE MAKING MORE
00:00:50THAN LICENSE PLATES INSIDE
OHIO'S PRISONS.
00:00:52WE'LL GO INSIDE A LOCK JOUP TO
LEARN MORE.
00:00:54ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO."
00:00:59BACKERS OF SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
THIS WEEK EMBARKED ON A PUBLIC
00:01:02AWARENESS CAMPAIGN TO EDUCATE
OHIOANS ABOUT CHANGING THE
00:01:05STATE LAW.
THE INITIATIVE IS BACKED BY THE
00:01:08STATE'S LARGEST GAY RIGHTS
GROUP, EQUALITY OHIO.
00:01:11BUT IS IT SEPARATE FROM THE
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT'S
00:01:13BEING PUSHED BY THE GROUP
FREEDOMOHIO.
00:01:16THE TWO GROUPS HAVE LONG
DISAGREED OVER THE TIMING OF A
00:01:18BALLOT ISSUE ON SAME-SEX
MARRIAGE NEXT YEAR.
00:01:22ELYZABETH HOLFORD OF EQUALITY
OHIO SAYS FREEDOMOHIO HAS BEEN
00:01:26INVITED TO WORK ON THE
EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN.
00:01:28>> WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE
EFFORT IN PUTTING TOGETHER AND
00:01:33GETTING OUT THERE AND WORKING
ON A PETITION EFFORT.
00:01:38AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE KNOW,
WE KNOW JUST FROM LAST WEEK
00:01:41FROM THE SURVEY, THE
INDEPENDENT SURVEY, WE KNOW
00:01:43THAT THE NUMBERS IN OHIO ARE
NOT STRONG ENOUGH YET.
00:01:46WE HAVE INVITED THAT CAMPAIGN
TO WORK WITH US.
00:01:50AT THIS POINT, THEY'VE SAID NO,
BUT THE DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN.
00:01:53>> BUT IAN JAMES WITH
FREEDOMOHIO SAYS HIS GROUP
00:01:56WOULD HAVE HAD TO STOP
COLLECTING SIGNATURES FOR ITS
00:01:59BALLOT ISSUE TO FULLY DEDICATE
TO THE EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN,
00:02:02WHICH HE SAYS HE IS NOT WILLING
TO DO.
00:02:05>> WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO
WORK ON AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN
00:02:08ABOUT WHY MARRIAGE MATTERS.
WE THINK THAT'S NECESSARY.
00:02:12WE'RE INCREDIBLY THANKFUL THAT
THEY ARE DOING THAT BECAUSE IS
00:02:15IT GOING TO BE HELPFUL IN THE
OVERALL CAMPAIGN.
00:02:18BUT WE WEREN'T ABOUT TO LET
DOWN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
00:02:22OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED THE
PETITION, THE THOUSANDS OF
00:02:25VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE ACTUALLY
WORKING EVERY DAY TO BUILD A
00:02:29COALITION.
>> THE EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN WAS
00:02:31ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK IN
COLUMBUS, CLEVELAND, AND
00:02:33CINCINNATI.
HOLFORD AND JAMES WERE ON THIS
00:02:35SHOW IN JULY.
JAMES SAID THEN THAT HIS GROUP
00:02:38HAS UNTIL JULY OF NEXT YEAR TO
MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THE
00:02:41BALLOT ISSUE, BUT ALSO SAID,
QUOTING HIM HERE, "YOU CAN'T
00:02:44WIN UNLESS YOU DO."
HOLFORD SAID FOR THE
00:02:47FORESEEABLE FUTURE, HER GROUP
WOULD BE, QUOTING HER HERE,
00:02:51"GROWING SUPPORT FOR MARRIAGE
EQUALITY THAT ALLOWS US TO WIN
00:02:53IT WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT."
ONE OF THE WORST-KEPT SECRETS
00:02:58ON CAPITAL SQUARE WAS REVEALED
THIS WEEK AS DEMOCRATIC
00:03:02REPUBLICIVE JOHN CARNEY
ANNOUNCED HE IS INDEED RUNNING
00:03:05FOR THE DEMOCRAT NOMINATION FOR
STATE AUTOMATIC TORE NEXT YEAR.
00:03:09IT PROMISES TO BE HEAVY ON
JOBSOHIO RINCHESES.
00:03:12CARNEY HAS BEEN ONE OF THE
LEADS IN THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS'
00:03:14ATTEMPTED ASSAULT ON GOVERNOR
KASICH'S JOB CREATING ENTITY.
00:03:21CARNEY HAS ALSO BLASTED
REPUBLICAN AUDITOR DAVID YOST,
00:03:23SAYING THAT YOST HAS MADE
STATEMENTS THAT HE WANTS TO
00:03:26AUDIT JOBSOHIO BUT THAT HE
DIDN'T DO IT BEFORE A NEW LAW
00:03:30KICKED IN THAT PREVENTS HIS
OFFICE FROM REVIEWING THE
00:03:34BOOKS.
YOST SAID IN JUNE HE INTENDED
00:03:36TO COMPLETE AN AUDIT OF
JOBSOHIO WITH DOCUMENTS HE
00:03:39ASKED FOR VIA SUBPOENA IN
MARCH.
00:03:40THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE SAYS THAT
AUDIT IS STILL BEING CONDUCTED,
00:03:43BUT THERE'S NO WORD ON WHEN IT
MIGHT BE COMPLETE.
00:03:46THE OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY SAYS
CARNEY'S EMPLOYER, THE LAW FIRM
00:03:51PORTER WRITE MORRIS AND AUTHOR,
WHICH IS AN UNDERWRITER OF THIS
00:03:54PROGRAM, HAS AN ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT ARM THAT DOES DEALS
00:03:57WITH JOBSOHIO.
AND THE G.O.P. ALSO SAYS IT'S
00:03:59CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT CARNEY
KNEW ABOUT THE PROBE INTO THE
00:04:02OFFICE OF FORMER STATE KEVIN
BOYCE.
00:04:09DEMOCRATS NOW HAVE CANDIDATES
FOR ALL FIVE OF THE STATEWIDE
00:04:12EXECUTIVE OFFICES FOR NEXT
YEAR'S BALLOT, 14 MONTHS BEFORE
00:04:15THE VOTE.
FORMER GOVERNOR TED STRICKLAND
00:04:19IS LIKELY GETTING A NEW JOB.
HE'S BEEN APPOINTED BY
00:04:21PRESIDENT OBAMA AS ONE OF THE
ALTERNATE REPRESENTATIVES TO
00:04:24THE 68TH SESSION OF THE UNITED
NATION GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
00:04:28THE DEMOCRATIC EX-GOVERNOR SAYS
HE'S ALWAYS BEEN INTERESTED IN
00:04:31INTERNATIONAL POLITICS, AND
HE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING
00:04:34TO NEW YORK CITY ONCE HE'S BEEN
CONFIRMED BY THE U.S. SENATE,
00:04:37WHICH HE SAYS HE'S CONFIDENT
WILL HAPPEN.
00:04:40STRICKLAND SAYS ONCE IN THE
MOSTLY CEREMONIAL JOB, HE'LL BE
00:04:44DELIVERING SPEECHES AND WORKING
WITH U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE
00:04:47U.N. SAMANTHA POWER.
BUT STRICKLAND ADDS THAT HE
00:04:50WILL BE BACK IN OHIO TO
CAMPAIGN NEXT YEAR N FACT, THIS
00:04:53WEEK HE WAS NAMED CAMPAIGN
MANAGER FOR DAVID LELAND, THE
00:04:57FORMER OHIO DEMOCRATIC PARTY
CHAIR WHO'S ANNOUNCED THAT HE
00:05:00IS RUNNING FOR REPUBLICIVE JOHN
CARNEY'S SEAT.
00:05:02AND THIS WAS A WEEK OF TWO BIG
REMEMBERANCE.
00:05:05THE 12TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE
SEPTEMBER 11 ATTACKS BROUGHT
00:05:09TOUCHING TRIBUTES AND MOVING
MEMORIALS THROUGHOUT THE STATE,
00:05:12INCLUDING IN COLUMBUS, WHEN
GOVERNOR KASICH JOINED
00:05:14COLUMBUS' DEMOCRATIC MAYOR
MICHAEL COLEMAN FOR AN
00:05:18OBSERVANCE AT CITY HALL ON
WEDNESDAY AT NOON.
00:05:20FLAGS ALSO FLEW AT HALF STAFF
AROUND THE STATE.
00:05:23AND THE DAY BEFORE, GOVERNOR
KASICH WAS ON HAND FOR THE
00:05:26COMMEMORATION OF THE
BICENTENNIAL OF THE BATTLE OF
00:05:29LAKE ERIE.
ON SEPTEMBER 10, 1813, NINE
00:05:32SHIPS FROM THE U.S. NAVY UNDER
THE COMMAND OF COMMODORE OLIVER
00:05:36HAZARD PERRY DEFEATED SIX
VESSELS FROM THE BRITISH NAVY,
00:05:40WHICH HAD JUST TAKEN CONTROL OF
LAKE ERIE THE MONTH BEFORE.
00:05:44THIS BATTLE NEAR PUT-IN-BAY WAS
ONE OF THE BIGGEST NAVAL
00:05:47BATTLES OF THE WAR OF 1812 WITH
41 BRITISH AND 27 AMERICANS
00:05:51KILLED AND NEARLY A HUNDRED
WOUNDED ON EITHER SIDE.
00:05:54IT WAS RE-ENACTED ON LABOR DAY
WITH THE HELP OF TALL SHIPS
00:05:58FROM SEVERAL COUNTRIES.
THE BATTLE PUT LAKE ERIE UNDER
00:06:01AMERICAN CONTROL FOR THE REST
OF THE WAR OF 1812, AND ALSO
00:06:04GAVE HISTORIANS TWO NOW FAMOUS
LINES.
00:06:07PERRY'S PERSONAL MOTTO, DON'T
GIVE UP THE SHIP, AND THE
00:06:10MESSAGE HE WROTE ON AN ENVELOPE
TO GIVE TO MAJOR GENERAL
00:06:13WILLIAM HENRY HARRISON, AN
OHIOAN WHO LATER BECAME
00:06:16PRESIDENT, THAT MESSAGE WAS, WE
HAVE MET THE ENEMY AND THEY ARE
00:06:19OURS.
MANY THANKS TO OUR FRIENDS AND
00:06:22LONGTIME PUBLIC RADIO REPORTER
KAREN SCHAEFER FOR THOSE
00:06:26PICTURES.
YOU CAN SEE MORE AND HEAR HER
00:06:28STORY AT GREATLAKES ECHO.ORG.
LAWMAKERS ARE HEADED BACK TO
00:06:33THE STATEHOUSE IN A FEW WEEKS,
TOP OF THE AGENDA IS SAID TO BE
00:06:36MEDICAID.
BUT WHETHER THAT'S REFORM OR
00:06:39EXPANSION IS THE REAL QUESTION.
WHILE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR
00:06:42KASICH AND A COALITION OF
ALLIES, INCLUDING DEMOCRATS,
00:06:45SOCIAL SERVICES GROUPS,
HOSPITALS AND BUSINESS
00:06:47ORGANIZATIONS ARE PUSHING FOR
EXPANSION, REPUBLICANS HAVE
00:06:50BEEN WARY OF EMBRACING IT.
THERE ARE AT LEAST FOUR BILLS
00:06:54DEALING WITH MEDICAID IN THE
LEGISLATURE RIGHT NOW.
00:06:56THE ONE WITH THE BEST CHANCE OF
PASSAGE, ARGUABLY, IS THE
00:07:02BIPARTISAN-BACKED REFORM BILL
THAT'S BEEN THE SUBJECT OF SOME
00:07:04HEARINGS AROUND THE STATE THIS
SUMMER.
00:07:05BUT THERE ARE MEASURES TO BOTH
EXPAND AND REFORM MEDICAID, AND
00:07:09TO CUT MEDICAID BACK TO THE
FEDERAL MINIMUMS.
00:07:12AND THEN THERE'S THE MEASURE
THAT MOST CLOSELY MIRRORS
00:07:15GOVERNOR KASICH'S ORIGINAL
PROPOSAL, WHICH WAS STRIPPED
00:07:18FROM THE HOUSE AND SENATE
VERSIONS OF THE BUDGET, A PLAN
00:07:21TO EXPAND MEDICAID TO 275,000
OHIOANS MAKING UP TO 138% OF
00:07:27THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL.
THAT BILL IS SPONSORED BY A
00:07:29LONE REPUBLICAN.
SHE IS REPRESENTIVE BARBARA
00:07:32SEARS OF SILL SANEA AND I'M
PLEASED TO WELCOME HER TO THE
00:07:36SHOW.
NOW YOU ADVOCATED MEDICAID
00:07:39EXPANSION, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
EXPANSION FOR 275,000 OHIOANS,
00:07:44UP TO 138% OF THE FEDERAL
POVERTY LEVEL.
00:07:46YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF TROUBLE
THOUGH GETTING YOUR FELLOW
00:07:51REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES TO SIGN
ON.
00:07:53YOUR BILL STILL DOESN'T HAVE
ANY CO-SPONSORS.
00:07:56I'M WONDERING WHAT THE PROBLEM
IS.
00:07:57>> WELL, THERE REALLY ISN'T ANY
PROBLEM WITH THAT.
00:08:01AND THE LEGISLATION BILL
ACTUALLY GOES A LITTLE FURTHER
00:08:04THAN WHAT GOVERNOR KASICH ASKED
FOR IN THAT IT ALSO HAS SOME
00:08:07ADDITIONAL REFORMS AND
PROTECTIONS FOR THE STATE IN
00:08:08IT.
SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE EXTENSIVE
00:08:11THAN THE STRAIGHT-UP WHAT WAS
IN THE BUDGET.
00:08:13AS FAR AS CO-SPONSORS GO, THAT
WAS LEADERSHIP DECISION TO JUST
00:08:17HAVE MY NAME ON IT.
REALLY BECAUSE WE WANTED TO
00:08:20MAKE SURE THAT WE ALLOWED A LOT
OF OUR OTHER MEMBERS TIME TO
00:08:24REALLY GET A FEEL AND
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT MEANS.
00:08:27MEDICAID IS A VERY DIFFICULT
TOP TOIK HAVE A CONVERSATION
00:08:30ON.
IT'S NOT A SOUNDBITE TYPE OF A
00:08:32TOPIC.
IT'S ONE THAT YOU NEED TO STUDY
00:08:34AND TAKE TIME TO LOOK AT.
THE LACK OF CO-SPONSORS RIGHT
00:08:37NOW IS SIMPLY A MATTER OF
PROCESS.
00:08:40BEFORE THE NEXT ROUND OF BEING
ABLE TO ADD CO-SPONSORS ON IS
00:08:43REALLY THROUGH THE COMMITTEE
PROCESS.
00:08:45IT'S STILL SITTING IN FINANCE
COMMITTEE.
00:08:47HASN'T COME OUT YET, SO THERE'S
NOT BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
00:08:50ADDITIONAL MEMBERS TO SIGN ON.
THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE
00:08:53QUITE A FEW NUMBER OF MEMBERS
THAT ARE INTERESTED IN
00:08:56SUPPORTING THE LEGISLATION AND
ARE HELPING WITH THE
00:08:59CONVERSATION OF SUPPORTING IT.
>> AND THESE ARE REPUBLICANS
00:09:03AND DEMOCRATS?
>> DEFINITELY -- DEFINITELY OUR
00:09:06DEMOCRATIC FRIENDS ARE.
BUT YES, REPUBLICANS ALSO.
00:09:09>> THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS
AROUND THE STATE THAT ARE
00:09:11STARTING TO SPEND TIME REALLY
UNDERSTANDING THE PROBLEM,
00:09:14REALLY UNDERSTANDING HOW WE CAN
START TO RESOLVE SOME OF THE
00:09:17ISSUES OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE AND
OUR OHIOANS HAVE.
00:09:22>> SO TO SAY THIS BILL WAS
PROPOSED JUST TO GET THE
00:09:26CONVERSATION STARRED BUT IS
GOING NOWHERE, IS THAT CORRECT?
00:09:28>> WELL, I HOPE NOT.
I HOPE IT'S GOING SOMEWHERE.
00:09:31YOU KNOW, VERY FEW OF US PUT
LEGISLATION OUT WE DON'T WANT
00:09:35TO GO SOMEWHERE.
BUT YES, IN FACT, THIS
00:09:38LEGISLATION WAS PUT OUT WHEN IT
WAS PUT OUT AND HOPES OF IT
00:09:41GOING SOMEWHERE, BUT ALSO TO
EMPHATICALLY START THE
00:09:45CONVERSATION.
WE'VE SPENT SO MUCH TIME
00:09:47REVOLVING CONVERSATION AROUND A
PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT
00:09:50DIDN'T EXIST.
WE NEEDED TO GET ONE IN
00:09:52EXISTENCE SO WE COULD NARROW
THAT CONVERSATION AND FOCUS IT.
00:09:55>> YOU TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS.
DEMOCRATS HAD TRIED TO START A
00:10:00DISCHARGE PETITION TO TRY TO
MOVE YOUR LEGISLATION FORWARD.
00:10:03THEY WERE SIGNED ON TO IT.
THEY WERE TRYING TO GET
00:10:06REPUBLICANS TO SIGN ON TO IT.
THIS WAS THE LAST DAY OF
00:10:08SESSION.
THAT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE.
00:10:09HOW WOULD THAT HAVE CHANGED
THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION IF,
00:10:14INDEED, THEY HAD GOTTEN A
DISCHARGE PETITION?
00:10:17I PRESUME IT WOULD NOT HAVE HAD
TOO MUCH LUCK IN THE SENATE?
00:10:20EVEN IT EVEN WOULD PASS THE
HOUSE.
00:10:23>> RIGHT, SO DISCHARGE PETITION
IS A WAY OF GETTING SOMETHING
00:10:26OUT OF COMMITTEE AND GETTING IT
TO THE FLOOR.
00:10:28SO HAVING IT OCCUR IN THE LAST
DAY OF SESSION STILL MEANS THAT
00:10:31YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL ANOTHER
SESSION DAY ROLLS AROUND.
00:10:34AND I THINK IT SPEAKS WELL FOR
THE SPEAKER THAT NO ONE OF THE
00:10:40REPUBLICAN PARTY DID SIGN ONTO
IT.
00:10:42YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING TO THE
SPEAKER TO HELP MAKE SURE WE'RE
00:10:47SOLVING THIS PROBLEM CORRECTLY.
EVEN THEY WE MAY DISAGREE ON
00:10:50MANY OF THE DIFFERENT PIECES
AND PARTS, HE'S OUR SPEAKER,
00:10:53AND I THINK WE NEED TO RESPECT
THAT LEADERSHIP THERE.
00:10:58SO I THINK THAT HAD A GREAT
INFLUENCE FOR MY REASON ON NOT
00:11:01SIGNING THE DISCHARGE PETITION,
EVEN THOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO SEE
00:11:04IT GET TO THE FLOOR, BUT ALSO
OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR CAUCUS.
00:11:07YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT, HAD IT
HAPPENED IN THAT KIND OF A WAY,
00:11:10IT PROBABLY WOULD DIE
IMMEDIATELY IN THE SENATE.
00:11:12>> NOW, YOU ARE IN THE
LEADERSHIP TALKS WITH REGARD TO
00:11:16MEDICAID REFORM, EXPANSION,
WHATEVER FORM IT'S GOING TO
00:11:18TAKE WHEN YOU ALL COME BACK IN
OCTOBER.
00:11:21I'M WONDERING WHAT IS THE
PREDICTION HERE?
00:11:24WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO
HAPPEN?
00:11:26>> FLIP A COIN.
YOU KNOW, IF I HAD THE ABILITY
00:11:31TO GUIDE THE CONVERSATION, I
WOULD LIKE TO SEE US MOVE ON
00:11:35176.
>> THAT'S YOUR BILL, OF COURSE?
00:11:37>> YES, THAT'S THE BILL I
SPONSORED, BUT MAYBE NOT HAVING
00:11:40IT LOOK LIKE IT LOOKS, MAYBE
ADD SOMETHING OTHER REFORMS
00:11:43INTO IT THAT SEEM TO MAKE SOME
LOGICAL SENSE.
00:11:46I'VE ALWAYS SORT OF ENVISIONED,
AND NOT JUST MYSELF, MANY
00:11:50MEMBERS IN THE CAUCUS LOOK AT
THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN
00:11:52THEIR OWN DISTRICTS THAT
THEY'RE SERVING AND THEY'RE
00:11:54SAYING OK, SO MEDICAID
EXPANSION, I GET IT.
00:11:57BUT MAYBE I'M NOT 100%
COMFORTABLE WITH IT, BUT CAN I
00:12:01SEE A PATHWAY IF I CAN LINK IT
TO WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT, IF I
00:12:06CAN LINK IT TO MORE OF THE
DISTRICT I SERVE GETTING THEIR
00:12:10G.E.D., IF I CAN LINK IT TO
GETTING SOME OF THE DRUG
00:12:12ADDICTION ISSUES AND
PARTICULARLY THE OPIATE
00:12:16ADDICTION SOLVED SO I CAN GET
PEOPLE BACK INTO THE WORK
00:12:19FORCE.
IF I CAN GET THE BEHAVIORAL
00:12:22HEALTH ISSUE SOLVED SO NOW I
CAN GET PEOPLE REGULATED ON
00:12:25THEIR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND
GET SOME CONTINUITY SO THEY CAN
00:12:28GET BACK INTO THE WORK FORCE,
SO FAMILIES CAN GET BACK
00:12:31TOGETHER.
SO EVEN THOUGH THIS PIECE OF IT
00:12:32MIGHT CAUSE THEM SOME ANGST AND
REALLY IT DOES ONLY BECAUSE IT
00:12:36FALLS UNDER THE AFFORDABLE CARE
ACT MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE F.
00:12:39THIS WAS A SEPARATE ONE, I
THINK IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT
00:12:41CONVERSATION.
BUT THEY CAN SEE ALL THE
00:12:45DIFFERENT RELATED BENEFITS OF
IT.
00:12:47SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOW CAN I
WORK ON THIS BILL THAT RELATES
00:12:50THIS THIS BILL?
I THINK THERE'S POWER THERE.
00:12:52>> WHAT IF NOTHING HAPPENS?
I KNOW THE SPEAKER SAID THAT
00:12:55MEDICAID REFORM IS AT THE TOP
OF THE AGENDA.
00:12:57THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT
HAVE TO BE DONE.
00:12:59BUT HE'S ALSO SAID OWE OPPOSES
MEDICAID EXPANSION.
00:13:03WHAT HAPPENS IF NOTHING
HAPPENS, AND COULD THE GOVERNOR
00:13:06STEP IN?
>> CERTAINLY THE GOVERNOR DOES
00:13:09HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO STEP IN
WITH AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.
00:13:12THAT'S ABSOLUTELY AVAILABLE TO
HIM.
00:13:14>> EVEN TO OVERRIDE THE
LEGISLATURE IN A WAY THIS
00:13:17>> WELL, THE LEGISLATURE HAS
GIVEN HIM THAT TOOL IN PRIOR
00:13:21BUDGETS.
SO WE GAVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY
00:13:22TO DO THIS BY ASK THE UFF
ORDER.
00:13:24SO HE DOES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO DO THAT.
00:13:28HE STILL NEEDS TO COME BACK TO
US TO FUND, BUT HE WOULDN'T
00:13:30EVEN NEED TO DO THAT RIGHT
AWAY.
00:13:32THERE IS ENOUGH UNDERSPENDING
GOING ON BASED ON ALL THE
00:13:35SUCCESSFUL REFORMS THAT WE'VE
CURRENTLY DONE THAT WE CAN
00:13:38EXTEND OUT A WHILE, MAYBE EVEN
GET TO THE POINT WHERE THE
00:13:40LEGISLATURE CAN FEEL
COMFORTABLE WITH THE SUCCESSES
00:13:44THAT THE COUNTY IS SEEING CAN
BE DUPLICATED STATEWIDE.
00:13:48>> YOU ALSO HAVE ANOTHER BILL
FROM ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES,
00:13:51JOHN BECKER OF CINCINNATI, WHO
HAS SAID WE NEED TO GO BACK TO
00:13:53THE FEDERAL MINIMUMS.
AND HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO THIS
00:13:57WHOLE CONVERSATION?
>> WELL, IT CERTAINLY DOES
00:13:59BOOKEND THE CONVERSATION,
DOESN'T IT?
00:14:01YOU KNOW, I THINK IT PROVIDES A
GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO
00:14:05REALLY HAVE A SOULSEARCHING
CONVERSATION ON THE EXPECTATION
00:14:10OF OHIOANS THAT ARE SITTING AT
100% OF POVERTY LEVEL AND UNDER
00:14:15PARTICULARLY, WHAT IS THE
EXPECTATION THAT WE CAN HAVE
00:14:18FOR THEM AS FAR AS DEALING WITH
THE HEALTH ISSUE?
00:14:22YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE SPEND
CLOSE TO HALF A BILLION DOLLARS
00:14:26ON LITTLE SILOD MEDICAL THINGS,
WHETHER IT'S IN BEHAVIORAL
00:14:32HEALTH, LOCAL LEVY DOLLARS,
THROUGH OUR CORRECTIONS,
00:14:34THROUGH OUR EDUCATIONAL
PROGRAM, ALL THESE PROGRAMS WE
00:14:38SPEND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS JUST TRYING TO DO
00:14:40THINGS IN SILO.
BY DOING MEDICAID EXPANSION, WE
00:14:43TAKE ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND
WE CAN FORM THEM INTO ONE
00:14:48OVERARCHING SYSTEM OF PROGRAMS
THAT THEN WE CAN HOLD
00:14:50ACCOUNTABLE FOR OUTCOMES AND
FOR SUCCESS AND FOR PROVIDING
00:14:55AN OUTCOME THAT BRINGS PEOPLE
BACK TO WORK F WE TAKE THAT
00:14:58MEDICAID DOWN TO THE MINIMUMS,
THEN ALL WE DO IS CREATE A NEED
00:15:02FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND FOR
THE STATE GOVERNMENT TO CREATE
00:15:05MORE INDIVIDUAL SILOS AND IT
TAKES US BACK 10, 20 YEARS IN
00:15:09OUR ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND HOW
EFFECTIVE MANAGED CARE AND
00:15:13CONTINUITY OF CARE IS TO PEOPLE
WHO NEED HELP.
00:15:15>> AND FINALLY, YOU'VE GONE OUT
ON A LIMB HERE IN A WAY.
00:15:19I MEAN, YOU AGAIN HAVE PUT OUT
A BILL THAT RIGHT NOW HAS NO
00:15:24CO-SPONSORS.
YOU'VE TESTIFIED ON THIS.
00:15:25NOW THE TEA PARTY IN YOUR AREA
IS SAYING THAT THEY ARE
00:15:29ACTIVELY RECRUITING CANDIDATES
TO RUN AGAINST YOU NEXT YEAR IN
00:15:31THE PRIMARY.
WHY DID YOU TAKE THIS RISK?
00:15:33>> BECAUSE I THINK IT'S THE
RIGHT THING TO DO.
00:15:35AND AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, I'M
NOT ELECTED TO DO SIMPLE THINGS
00:15:39ALL THE TIME.
YOU KNOW, BY CIRCUMSTANCE AND
00:15:42BY BACKGROUND, THIS IS AN AREA
THAT I'VE KIND OF SPECIALIZED
00:15:46IN IN COLUMBUS.
IT'S AN AREA THAT I'M VERY
00:15:48COMFORTABLE IN.
I TRAVELED TO MANY DIFFERENT
00:15:51PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, TALKED TO
NOT ALL BUT VIRTUALLY ALL
00:15:56REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL
DIFFERENT STATES ABOUT THE
00:15:58ISSUE AND HOW THEY'RE HANDLING
IT AND LOOKING AT IT.
00:16:01IT'S JUST AN AREA I'VE SPENT AN
AWFUL LOT OF TIME AT.
00:16:05YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN FEEL THE
SUCCESS THAT WE CAN HAVE IN THE
00:16:07STATE OF OHIO BY JUST NUDGING
OURSELVES FORWARD.
00:16:11AND SOME I'M COMFORTABLE WITH
DOING THAT.
00:16:13>> AND EVEN IF YOU AND PERHAPS
OTHERS WHO COME OUT TO SUPPORT
00:16:17YOU LATER COULD POTENTIALLY
LOSE IN PRIMARY ELECTIONS, YOU
00:16:21THINK IT'S WORTH IT?
>> I DO THINK IT'S WORTH IT.
00:16:24I DON'T THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN
AND I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT
00:16:26DOESN'T HAPPEN.
BUT I DO.
00:16:28AGAIN, ONE OF THE DOWN SIDES OF
BEING IN A TERM-LIMITED
00:16:31ENVIRONMENT IS YOU HAVE VERY
PRECIOUS FEW YEARS TO BOTH
00:16:35LEARN SOMETHING IN DEPTH AND
PRECIOUS YEARS TO ACTUALLY GET
00:16:39SOMETHING DONE.
SO IF YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO
00:16:41TRY TO MOVE THE STATE FORWARD,
YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO
00:16:44TACKLE TOUGH ISSUES.
YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO
00:16:46TACKLE THEM AND TO WORK THEM
THROUGH.
00:16:48>> ALL RIGHT, REPRESENTIVE
BARBARA SEARS, THANK YOU VERY
00:16:50MUCH.
NEXT WEEK, MORE ON IMMEDIATE
00:16:52CASE EXPANSION.
AS I TALK TO THE LEADER OF A
00:16:54COALITION LOOKING TO PUT
EXPANSION ON THE BALLOT IF
00:16:57LAWMAKERS DON'T DO IT, AND THE
PRESIDENT OF A CONSERVATIVE
00:17:01GROUP THAT'S STRONGLY OPPOSED
TO IT.
00:17:03THERE WAS A TIME WHEN PEOPLE
ASSUMED THAT INMATES KEPT BUSY
00:17:06BEHIND BARS MAKING LICENSE
PLATES.
00:17:09THAT'S NOT THE CASE ANYMORE AT
SEVERAL OHIO PRISONS.
00:17:11SOME ARE MAKING LICENSE PLATES,
BUT THEY'RE ALSO MAKING
00:17:15CLOTHING, AMERICAN AND OHIO
FLAGS, CHAIRS, BEDS, AND
00:17:18OUTDOOR FURNITURE, DENTURES AND
EYE GLASSES, AND PROVIDING
00:17:22SERVICES SUCH AS PRINTING,
VEHICLE MODIFICATION,
00:17:26MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR,
DUMPSTER REFURBISHING AND
00:17:29CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
TO SEE ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS IN
00:17:32ACTION, GO TO THE CENTRAL OHIO
FURNITURE BANK, WHICH PROVIDES
00:17:36FURNITURE AT NO COST TO
FAMILIES WHO ARE REBUILDING
00:17:38THEIR LIVES AFTER BEING
HOMELESS OR SURVIVING FIRES OR
00:17:43OTHER CATASTROPHES.
2 THOUSAND NOW PIECES OF THAT
00:17:46FURNITURE THAT'S BEEN GIVE AND
WAY WAS BUILT AND ASSEMBLED AT
00:17:49THE FURNITURE BANK SHOP BY
VOLUNTEERS USING ALMOST ALL
00:17:54DONATED MATERIALS, INCLUDING
MATERIALS FROM HOTELS.
00:17:56JOHN REMY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH
THE FURNITURE BANK.
00:17:59>> WE GIVE OUT 55,000 PIECES OF
FURNITURE A YEAR, AND 12% OF
00:18:06THAT IS STUFF THAT EITHER WE
MANUFACTURED HERE AT THE
00:18:10FURNITURE BANK BY VOLUNTEERS OR
IS MANUFACTURED BY THE INMATES
00:18:14UP AT MARION CORRECTIONAL
INSTITUTE.
00:18:17>> 50 MILES NORTH, THERE IS A
SIMILAR BUT SMALLER WOOD SHOP
00:18:20IN THE PRISON IN MARION, WHERE
DRESSERS AND BED FRAMES ARE
00:18:24LINED UP AS THEY'RE COMPLETED.
SUPERVISOR BOB STARK SAYS HIS
00:18:2840-MEMBER INMATE CREW BUILDS 24
TO 36 DRESSERS EACH WEEK, AND
00:18:3318 TO 36 BEDS A WEEK WITH THE
SAME PLANS THAT THE VOLUNTEERS
00:18:37IN COLUMBUS USE.
>> THE BENEFIT TO THE INMATES
00:18:40IS THAT THEY'RE GIVING BACK TO
THE COMMUNITY.
00:18:42AND THAT'S, OF ALL THE INMATES
I HAVE DOWN HERE, WHICH I HAVE
00:18:4640, THAT IS THEIR COMPLETE
GOAL.
00:18:48THEY WANT TO WORK HERE.
IT GETS THEM SOMETHING TO DO.
00:18:52IT TEACHES THEM SOMETHING TO
DO, HOW TO DO IT.
00:18:55THEY GO BACK ON STATISTIC, THEY
WILL BE FAMILIAR WITH DIFFERENT
00:18:58TOOLS AND STUFF THAT THEY CAN
USE AND WORK WITH ON THE
00:19:00STREETS.
THEIR WHOLE GOAL IS TO GIVE
00:19:03BACK.
AND I SAY THAT THAT REALLY
00:19:05BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT IS
BECAUSE I TALK TO THEM EVERY
00:19:08DAY ABOUT THIS.
THEY'RE GLAD TO BE ABLE TO DO
00:19:10IT.
>> ONE OF THE INMATES IN THE
00:19:12FURNITURE BANK PROGRAM AT
M.C.I. IS 41-YEAR-OLD KELLY LEE
00:19:16PARSONS, ORIGINALLY OF RAVENNA.
HE'S THE CLERK OF THE FURNITURE
00:19:20BANK AND HAS BEEN BEHIND BARS
SINCE 1990.
00:19:22HE WAS 18 THEN WHEN HE AND TWO
OTHER MEN ROND AND FATALLY
00:19:28STABBED TALLMADGE BUSINESSMAN
WILLIAM SIMCOX.
00:19:31>> I'VE BEEN LOCKED UP 23
YEARS.
00:19:32I DID SOMETHING BAD.
AND THIS IS AN ACTUAL CHANCE
00:19:36FOR US AS INMATES TO GIVE BACK
TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE TOOK
00:19:39FROM.
AND IT HELPS US FEEL GOOD IN
00:19:41THE PROCESS.
>> AND DO YOU LIKE THE IDEA
00:19:45THAT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT YOU
MAKE GOES TO HELP SOMEBODY
00:19:46ELSE?
>> IT'S AN AWESOME FEELING TO
00:19:50KNOW THAT PEOPLE LIKE MY
PARENTS, WHO WERE DOWN AND OUT,
00:19:54ARE GETTING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO
GET BACK UP.
00:19:55SO WE KNOW IT MAKES AN IMPACT
AND IT MAKES AN IMPACT ON OUR
00:19:58LIVES, TOO.
>> PARSONS IS UP FOR PAROLE IN
00:20:022018.
DURING HIS TIME AT MARION, HE'S
00:20:04NOT ONLY BUILT FURNITURE BUT
ALSO DETAILED SMALLER
00:20:07DECORATIVE GAZEBOS, FLOWERS,
AND OTHER WOOD PROJECTS.
00:20:10THE INMATES AT M.C.I. WILL SOON
START MAKING KITCHEN CHAIRS,
00:20:14AND HAVE EVEN MADE ALTERATIONS
TO THE ORIGINAL PLANS FOR
00:20:18DRESSERS AND BED FRAMES.
FOR INSTANCE, THEY DESIGNED THE
00:20:21DRAW PULLS ON THE DRESSERS TO
MAKE THEM STURDIER AND EASIER
00:20:25TO USE.
STUART HUDSON IS THE CHIEF OF
00:20:27MEDICAL SERVICES FOR THE OHIO
DEPARTMENT OF REHABILITATION
00:20:29AND CORRECTION, AND HE SAYS
MARION'S PROGRAM IS ONE OF MANY
00:20:32IN OPERATION UNDER THE OHIO
PENAL INDUSTRIES BANNER.
00:20:36>> O.P.I. DOES JUST A VARIETY
OF INDUSTRIES FOR INMATES BUT
00:20:42ALSO PRODUCTS THAT GO OUT TO
OTHER STATE AGENCIES THROUGHOUT
00:20:46THE SYSTEM.
WHETHER IT'S TOILET PAPER,
00:20:50FOOD, CAR PARTS, WE HAVE
PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS
00:20:55WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE DO
CERTAIN THINGS FOR.
00:20:59WE DO BRAILLE TRANSCRIPTION.
YOU NAME IT, WE BASICALLY DO IT
00:21:05IF IT MEANS PUTTING A WORK
FORCE THAT IT'S MEANINGFUL
00:21:09WORK.
IT'S WORK THAT INDIVIDUALS CAN
00:21:12DO THAT WILL -- WILL BRING
MEANINGFUL ACTIVITIES OUT AND
00:21:15ALSO PROVIDE THEM AN
OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE THEIR
00:21:19SKILLS SO WHEN THEY DO RETURN
TO SOCIETY THEY HAVE SOMETHING
00:21:22TO SAY THAT THEY CAN MOVE
FORWARD IN THEIR LIFE WITH.
00:21:25>> AND THESE THINGS ARE ALL
MADE BY INMATES, FLAGS, LIKE
00:21:29YOU SAID, TOILET PAPER, FOOD
PRODUCT?
00:21:31THESE ARE ALL THINGS MADE BY
THE INMATES?
00:21:33>> CORRECT.
THE FOOD PRODUCTS IS BASICALLY
00:21:36AT OUR MEAT PROCESSING PLANT AT
ONE OF OUR FACILITIES.
00:21:41AND WHAT WE DO IS WE RAISE OUR
BEEF ON OUR FARMS THROUGHOUT
00:21:47OHIO, AND WE BRING THEM THERE
TO PROCESS, PACKAGE AND THEN WE
00:21:52DISTRIBUTE THE MEAT THROUGHOUT
ALL OF OUR PRISONS.
00:21:54SO THE MEAT IS ACTUALLY GROWN
ON OUR FARMS AND SERVED WITHIN
00:21:57OUR INS FUSIONS.
THE SAME WAY WITH MILK.
00:21:59MILK IS THE OTHER PIECE OF
THAT.
00:22:02WHERE WE HAVE OUR DAIRY HERDS
OUT ON ALL OF OUR FARMS.
00:22:05WE MILK EVERY MORNING, JUST
LIKE FARMERS DO, AND WE BRING
00:22:09THAT BACK WHERE WE PASTERIZE
OUR MILK, PACKAGE IT AND SEND
00:22:16IT OUT FOR INMATE CONSUMPTION.
>> AND HOW DO THE INMATES WHO
00:22:20ARE INVOLVED IN O.P.I. GET
SELECTED FOR THIS?
00:22:23I ASSUME THIS IS A CHOSEN
POSITION, SO TO SPEAK?
00:22:26>> IT IS.
JUST LIKE IN THE FREE WORLD,
00:22:28THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT AN
APPLICATION.
00:22:30THEY HAVE TO APPLY.
THEY HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN
00:22:33CRITERIA.
AND THEN THEY'RE INTERVIEWED,
00:22:37JUST LIKE THEY WOULD A NORMAL
POSITION.
00:22:39AND MOST OF OUR SHOPS HAVE TIME
CLOCKS.
00:22:41SO ONCE THEY'RE SELECTED AND
BROUGHT IN, THEY HAVE TO PUNCH
00:22:46THE TIME CLOCK AND THEY HAVE SO
MUCH SICK TIME, THAT TYPE OF
00:22:49THING.
THEY HAVE JOB EVALUATIONS AND
00:22:51THEIR PERFORMANCE IS JUDGED.
IF THEY DON'T MAKE IT, THEY
00:22:54DON'T MAKE IT.
THEY'RE MOVED OUT OF THE
00:22:56PROGRAM.
AND IF THEY DO, THEN THEY
00:22:58RECEIVE CERTAIN INCENTIVES,
WHETHER IT'S PAY, LONGEVITY
00:23:02PAY, THAT TYPE OF THING.
THE LONGER THEY'RE WITH US, THE
00:23:06LONGER THEY'RE WITH US, THE
MORE MONEY THEY CAN EARN.
00:23:09AND THEY CAN EARN FROM $20 TO
$40 TO $60 TO $80 A MONTH.
00:23:15SO IT IS -- IT IS AN INCENTIVE
PROGRAM.
00:23:18ALSO PROVIDES SOME SKILLS.
IF WE WERE TO REPLACE
00:23:21EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES WITH
THE -- OR IF WE WERE TO TAKE
00:23:26THE O.P.I. INDUSTRY OUT OF THE
INSTITUTIONS AND REPLACE WITH
00:23:30EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, IT
WOULD COST US PROBABLY AN
00:23:32ADDITIONAL $8.5 MILL DWRON TO
DO THAT.
00:23:35SO IT'S TRULY A SIVINGS.
IT PROVIDES SOME REAL-WORLD
00:23:38SKILLS TO GO OUT INTO SOCIETY
UPON RELESION.
00:23:42AND IT REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF
NEED ON EDUCATIONAL
00:23:45OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE WOULD
NEED TO PROVIDE.
00:23:47>> I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK YOU
ABOUT THE MONEY AND WHO
00:23:50O.P.I.'S CUSTOMERS ARE.
DOES O.P.I. MAKE MONEY FOR THE
00:23:53STATE BY SELLING THESE
PRODUCTS?
00:23:55BECAUSE CAN YOU GO ON THE
O.P.I. WEBSITE, A BUSINESS
00:23:58COULD GO ON THERE AND BUY
JANITOR YULL SUPPLIES OR
00:24:02SOMETHING.
>> THEY MAKE MONEY, BUT ALL
00:24:03THAT MONEY IS INTERNALLY --
IT'S REINVESTED INTO THE
00:24:06PROGRAMS.
SO WE DO NOT OPERATE
00:24:09NECESSARILY ON PROFIT.
WE STRIVE TO MAINTAIN
00:24:15SUSTAINABILITY.
SO EVERY SHOT -- IF A CERTAIN
00:24:18SHOP IS NOT BEING SUCCESSFUL IN
MAINTAINING THEIR
00:24:22SUSTAINABILITY, THEN WE MIGHT
HAVE TO RELY ON OTHER SHOPS FOR
00:24:25A WHILE.
BUT AS A SYSTEM AS A WHOLE,
00:24:27IT'S SELF-SUPPORTING AND THAT'S
THE KEY.
00:24:29IT PAYS FOR THE STAFF.
IT PAYS FOR THE INMATES.
00:24:31IT PAYS FOR THE RAW MATERIALS,
THE BOXES, THE PACKAGING, THE
00:24:35DELIVERY, ALL THAT.
IT'S ALL INTERNAL.
00:24:38NONE OF THAT MONEY IS
TRANSFERRED OUTSIDE OF O.P.I.
00:24:41IT'S ALL KEPT INSIDE OF THE
OHIO PENAL INDUSTRIES.
00:24:44>> AND THE INMATES ACTUALLY
MAKES BOXES THAT ARE FOR SALE
00:24:48AS WELL.
IS THE STATE REQUIRED TO BUY
00:24:50CERTAIN THINGS FROM O.P. SNIRKS
>> YES, THEY ARE.
00:24:53THERE'S ACTUALLY -- IT'S OHIO
REVISED CODE OR PART OF THE
00:24:58ADMINISTRATIVE RULE THAT
AGENCIES BUY THE PRODUCTS THAT
00:25:01ARE AVAILABLE, THAT ARE MADE
AND AVAILABLE BY O.P.I.
00:25:05SO THAT WILL INCLUDE YOUR
TOILET PAPER, SOME FORMS,
00:25:09BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR OWN PRINT
SHOP, FLAGS YOU SEE FLYING OVER
00:25:13STATE BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT
OHIO.
00:25:16>> HUDSON SAYS OHIO PENL
INDUSTRIES CAN BE TRACED BACK
00:25:20TO THE MID 1800'S WHEN THE GOAL
WAS TO MAKE PRISONS
00:25:23SELF-SUFFICIENT AND INMATES
WERE MAKING PRODUCTS NOT ONLY
00:25:26FOR THE PRISONS BUT ALSO FOR
BUSINESSES THAT CONTRACTED WITH
00:25:29THE STATE.
BUT UNLIKE THEN, PRISONERS ARE
00:25:32NOW COMPENSATED FOR THEIR WORK,
AND ANY BUSINESS CAN SHOP FOR
00:25:36INMATE-MADE PRODUCTS AT
O.P.I.'S WEBSITE.
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