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Gov. John Kasich is now trying his hand at school funding with a proposal that was unveiled this week, after months of dropped clues and dodged questions. The governor revealed his plan before a gathering of the Buckeye Association of School Administrators, along with Richard Ross, director of 21st Century Education for the governor's office, and Barbara Mattei Smith, the assistant policy director for education. Gov. Kasich says no district will be cut, and that state spending on K-12 will increase in both years of the budget. But he warns that districts that are on so-called "guarantees" won't get that money after this two-year budget. The governor started selling his plan just a few hours later, at a virtual town hall at COSI in Columbus. He and his team took questions via Facebook and Twitter from those watching a live stream of the session on the Ohio Channel.

The governor's office also put out reaction statements from a variety of sources, including Eric Gordon, the CEO of the Cleveland Municipal School District and Akron City Schools superintendent David James. But Democratic Party Chairman Chris Redfern, who's also a member of the Ohio House, wasn't pleased. And the day before the governor's plan was proposed, a trio of House Democrats outlined what they say are three components that need to be part of any successful education reform. Reps. Teresa Fedor of Toledo, Matt Lundy of Elyria and Debbie Phillips of Athens said early learning programs, local property tax levy relief and more accountability for charter schools were critical to education reforms.

A few hours before his funding formula was revealed, the governor was already making news regarding his budget and his JobsOhio agency when he appeared before the Associated Press Legislative Preview session at the Moyer Judicial Center. He blasted Democrats for opposing JobsOhio and saying they are hoping to "wreck the economy". At another AP session a few hours later, the state's top lawmakers were asked to react, and were also asked about their thoughts on the most important issues coming before the legislature this General Assembly.

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00:00:01	BROADCAST OF "THE STATE OF OHIO" COMES FROM THE LAW
00:00:07	OFFICES, HELPING BUSINESSES AND INDIVIDUALS SOLVE COMPLEX LEGAL
00:00:10	PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT OHIO, ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND AROUND
00:00:13	THE WORLD. ON THE WEB AT PORTERRICE.COM.
00:00:16	AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING
00:00:20	131,000 TEACHERS, SUPPORT PROFESSIONALS AND HIGHER
00:00:23	EDUCATION FACULTY WHO ARE WORKING FOR GREAT PUBLIC
00:00:25	SCHOOLS FOR EVERY CHILD. ONLINE AT OHEA.ORG.
00:00:29	ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR "THE STATE OF OHIO" IS MADE POSSIBLE
00:00:33	BY ETECH OHIO. >> SCHOOL OFFICIALS, LAWMAKERS,
00:00:40	EDUCATORS AND TAX PLAYERS LEARN ABOUT THE SCHOOL FUNDING FORM
00:00:42	L.A. AND THE STATE'S TOP ELECTED OFFICIALS SPEAK OUT
00:00:44	ABOUT WHAT'S AHEAD IN THE BUDGET AND MORE.
00:00:46	ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF OHIO."
00:00:52	>> SCHOOL FUNDING FORMULAS ARE NOTHING NEW IN OHIO.
00:00:54	A VARIETY OF IDEAS ON HOW TO PAY FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION HAVE
00:00:58	BEEN INTRODUCED, TINKERED WITH AND THROWN AWAY OVER THE YEARS,
00:01:01	ALL IN AN EFFORT TO TRY TO RESOLVE TO EVERYONE'S
00:01:05	SATISFACTION THE QUESTION THAT WENT BEFORE THE OHIO SUPREME
00:01:07	COURT TWO DECADES AGO -- IS OHIO'S SCHOOL FUNDING SYSTEM
00:01:11	CONSTITUTIONAL? GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH IS NOW
00:01:14	TRYING HIS HAND AT SCHOOL FUNDING WITH A PROPOSAL THAT
00:01:17	WAS UNVEILED THIS WEEK, AFTER MONTHS OF DROPPED CLUES AND
00:01:20	DODGED QUESTIONS. THE GOVERNOR REVEALED HIS PLAN
00:01:23	BEFORE A GATHERING OF THE BUCKEYE ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL
00:01:26	ADMINISTRATORS ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON NORTH OF CLULL BUS.
00:01:29	THOSE ADMINISTRATORS BECAME THE FIRST GROUP OF EDUCATORS TO
00:01:31	HEAR ABOUT IT FROM THE GOVERNOR AND HIS TEAM.
00:01:34	>> WE HAVE STRIPPED POLITICS OUT OF THE DECISIONMAKING.
00:01:38	YOU KNOW IN THE PAST, PEOPLE HAD POLITICAL CONSIDERATIONS.
00:01:42	THAT IS NOT THE WAY THAT I APPROACH THIS JOB, NOR THE WAY
00:01:45	THAT I WOULD APPROACH THE DISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES FOR
00:01:49	OUR BOYS AND GIRLS. THE MINUTE YOU PLAY POLITICS IS
00:01:53	THE MINUTE YOU GET LOST, AND WE DID NOT WANT TO DO THAT.
00:01:56	WE WANTED TO DELIVER THE RESOURCES OF THIS STATE FAIRLY.
00:02:00	AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY BOY AND GIRL, NO MATTER
00:02:04	WHAT DISTRICT THEY COME FROM, ARE GOING TO BE IN A POSITION
00:02:07	TO HAVE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH BOYS
00:02:11	AND GIRLS IN ANY OTHER DISTRICT ACROSS THE STATE.
00:02:14	AND THAT IS EXACTLY HOW WE'VE DESIGNED THIS PROGRAM.
00:02:18	I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS PROGRAM IS FULLY FUNDED.
00:02:22	THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE PROPOSE SOMETHING
00:02:25	AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.
00:02:26	>> GOVERNOR KASICH SAYS THE MONEY TO DO WHAT HE'S PROPOSING
00:02:30	IS AVAILABLE BECAUSE OHIO'S ECONOMY HAS REBOUNDED AND JOB
00:02:33	GROWTH HAS BROUGHT 123,000 NEW JOBS.
00:02:36	AND HE SAYS HE BELIEVES HIS PLAN IS CONSTITUTIONAL.
00:02:39	THE GOVERNOR HIT AT THE BIGGEST CONCERN OF DISTRICTS RIGHT OFF
00:02:42	THE TOP. >> NO SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE
00:02:45	STATE OF OHIO WILL RECEIVE FEWER DOLLARS THAN YOU RECEIVED
00:02:47	LAST YEAR. NOT ONE SINGLE SCHOOL DISTRICT
00:02:50	IN THE STATE. >> KASICH'S ASSISTANT POLICY
00:02:53	DIRECTOR FOR EDUCATION, BARBARA MATTEI-SMITH, ATTEMPTED TO
00:02:56	EXPLAIN THE WAY THE STATE HOPES TO BRING UP ALL SCHOOL
00:02:59	DISTRICTS TO A POINT SO THAT EACH HAS $250,000 IN PROPERTY
00:03:03	TAX VALUE PER PUPIL. >> WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN OUR
00:03:08	CORE OPPORTUNITY FUNDING IS THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS NECESSARY TO
00:03:12	BRING OUR LOWEST WEALTH DISTRICTS UP TO THE EQUIVALENT
00:03:16	OF $250,000 IN VALUATION. LOWEST WEALTH IS ABOUT $50,000
00:03:23	IN VALUATION. SO WE'LL PROVIDE 20 MILLS WORTH
00:03:27	OF REVENUE ON THE $200,000 IN BETWEEN.
00:03:32	WE'LL DO THAT ACROSS. >> OTHER HIGHLIGHTS OF THE
00:03:36	PLAN, NO SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL SEE FEWER DOLLARS OVER THE NEXT
00:03:39	TWO YEARS, AND STATE SPENDING WILL INCREASE 6% THIS COMING
00:03:43	FISCAL YEAR, AND 3% THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
00:03:46	GENERAL REVENUE FUND SPENDING ON EDUCATION WILL BE $7.4
00:03:51	BILLION IN 2014, $7.7 BILLION IN 2015.
00:03:55	DISTRICTS WILL GET STATE FUNDING SO THAT EACH WILL HAVE
00:03:59	$250,000 OF PROPERTY VALUE FOR EACH PUPIL.
00:04:01	ONLY 24 DISTRICTS HAVE PROPERTY VALUES HIGHER THAN $250,000.
00:04:06	EQUALIZATION FUNDS OF FIVE TO 15 MILLS WILL BE PROVIDED
00:04:10	BEYOND THAT BASED ON AN EVEN SPLIT OF INCOME AND PROPERTY
00:04:14	WEALTH IN DISTRICTS. A $300 MILLION STRAIGHT-A FUND
00:04:19	WILL PROVIDE ONE-TIME GRANTS FOR OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS
00:04:22	FOR DISTRICTS. A FUND TO ASSIST SCHOOLS WITH
00:04:25	COSTS FOR DISABLED STUDENTS INCREASES FROM $10 MILLION TO
00:04:30	$100 MILLION. AN EXTENSIVE EXPANSION OF
00:04:32	VOUCHERS FOR LOW-INCOME STUDENTS IN GRADES KINDERGARTEN
00:04:35	THROUGH THIRD. MORE FUNDING FOR STUDENTS FROM
00:04:38	NONENGLISH SPEAKING FAMILIES, FOR EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION,
00:04:41	AND FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS AND THEIR FACILITY NEEDS.
00:04:45	AND A SCHOOL CALENDAR WOULD GO FROM DAYS, NOW 184 DAYS, TO
00:04:49	HOURS. RICHARD ROSS IS THE DIRECTOR OF
00:04:54	21ST CENTURY EDUCATION FOR THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.
00:04:57	>> THIS IS OUR ACHIEVEMENT EVERYWHERE PLAN.
00:05:00	WE THINK IT'S A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
00:05:03	IT IS NOT A SCHOOL FUNDING PLAN.
00:05:05	IT'S AN EDUCATION IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
00:05:07	>> BUT THAT FIRST ITEM ON THE LIST, THAT NO DISTRICT WILL SEE
00:05:10	FEWER DOLLARS OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS, WON'T LAST BEYOND THAT.
00:05:15	GOVERNOR KASICH SAYS THOSE SO-CALLED GUARANTEES ARE
00:05:18	NEITHER FAIR NOR SUSTAINABLE. >> WE HAVE OVER 400 DISTRICTS
00:05:22	ON GUARANTEES. THAT'S POLITICS.
00:05:26	WE ARE NOW PROVIDING RESOURCES TO SCHOOLS THAT MAY HAVE A
00:05:30	SHRINKING STUDENT POPULATION. AND YET WE ARE DEPRIVING
00:05:35	SCHOOLS THAT MAY HAVE A GROWING POPULATION OF THE RESOURCES
00:05:38	BECAUSE, FRANKLY, WE HAVE NOT FAIRLY TARGETED WHERE THOSE
00:05:42	RESOURCES OUGHT TO FLOW. WE DIDN'T CHANGE GUARANTEES IN
00:05:45	THIS PROPOSAL. AND WE DIDN'T CHANGE IT FOR
00:05:48	THIS REASON. INTRODUCING CHAOS INTO THIS
00:05:53	SYSTEM RIGHT NOW NOT GOING TO SERVE OUR BOYS AND GIRLS.
00:05:56	BUT WE AS A FAMILY, A FAIR-MINDED FAMILY, WE CAN HAVE
00:06:02	OUR DISAGREEMENTS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED TO
00:06:06	DELIVER THE RESOURCES TO THE CHILDREN WHERE THEY LIVE BASED
00:06:09	ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT EXIST IN THAT DISTRICT.
00:06:12	AND IF WE ALLOW SOME DISTRICTS THAT MIGHT HAVE SEEN A 50%
00:06:16	SHRIN INCOME THEIR POPULATION TO GET THE DOLLAR FLOW BASED ON
00:06:19	THE FACT THAT THEY WERE 50% HIGHER, IT DEPRIVES SOMEBODY
00:06:24	PERHAPS IN ANOTHER COUNTY OF THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO BE
00:06:27	ABLE TO HELP THEIR CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE AND WIN.
00:06:30	WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS.
00:06:33	>> AND OVERALL, ROSS SAYS THE PLAN IS THAT THE MONEY WOULD
00:06:36	FOLLOW THE STUDENT. >> SPECIFIC FOCUSES IS GOING TO
00:06:40	DRIVE DOLLARS TO THE CLASSROOM IN EVERY WAY WE CAN.
00:06:43	WE WANT TO ELIMINATE BACK-OFFICE SERVICES.
00:06:46	WE WANT TO REDUCE ADMINISTRATIVE OVERHEAD.
00:06:49	WE WANT TO REDUCE BUREAUCRACY. DOLLARS NEED TO FLOW TO THE
00:06:53	CHILDREN. THEY NEED TO GO THERE.
00:06:54	THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE FOR. THAT WAS WHAT THEY WERE
00:06:57	DESIGNED FOR. >> BUT ROSS SAYS THE TWO YEARS
00:07:00	IN WHICH NO DISTRICT WILL RECEIVE LESS MONEY ARE BUILT IN
00:07:03	TO GIVE DISTRICTS TIME TO INNOVATE AND CHANGE SO THAT
00:07:06	THEY CAN PREPARE TO NOT BE ON THE SO-CALLED GUARANTEES.
00:07:10	>> THE BOTTOM LINE IS SAME-OLD, SAME-OLD DOESN'T WORK.
00:07:14	WE NEED TO BE REFLECTING AND FOCUSING ON OUR BOYS AND GIRLS
00:07:18	AND DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY. WE HAVE TO RAISE THOSE
00:07:21	EXPECTATIONS FOR OURSELVES AND OUR TEACHERS SO WE DO INCREASE
00:07:25	THE SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE OF THOSE STUDENTS.
00:07:28	>> EVEN AS DISTRICTS WERE BEING WARNED TO PREPARE FOR THE
00:07:30	FUTURE AND POSSIBLY LESS MONEY, GOVERNOR KASICH TOLD THE
00:07:34	ADMINISTRATORS THAT THE STATE IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE
00:07:37	PLIGHT OF THE LOWEST INCOME STUDENTS AND LOWEST WEALTH
00:07:40	DISTRICTS, WHICH HE SAYS NEED A CHANCE.
00:07:42	>> AND WE ARE OVER THE LONG HAUL, FRANKLY, NOT ONLY -- AND
00:07:47	THAT'S THE BIGGEST MORAL ISSUE, EVERYBODY DESERVES A CHANCE,
00:07:50	BUT ON TOP OF IT, IT CREATES A HUGE ECONOMIC PROBLEM FOR OUR
00:07:55	STATE. AND SO THE IDEA THAT WE BELIEVE
00:07:57	THAT THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AND THIS IS NOT
00:08:02	ARRANGED IN ANY PARTICULAR PHILOSOPHICAL WAY, IF YOU HAVE
00:08:06	POOR KIDS, WE'RE GOING TO HELP. AND IF YOU HAVE DISABLED KIDS,
00:08:12	WE'RE GOING TO HELP. AND IF YOU HAVE -- IF YOU HAVE
00:08:14	GIFTED KIDS WHO CAN RISE UP AND KEEP THEM INTERESTED AND
00:08:17	EXCITED ABOUT THEIR EDUCATION, WE'RE GOING TO HELP.
00:08:20	AND IT'S NOT DISTRIBUTED IN ANY WAY EXCEPT ON THE BASIS OF YOUR
00:08:24	POPULATION. BUT THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT
00:08:28	THAT OHIO TAKE ON THE ISSUE OF POVERTY.
00:08:30	AND IF WE CAN BEGIN TO WIN THAT BATTLE, GET KIDS TRAINED, GET
00:08:34	THEM EDUCATED, GET THEM WORK, WOW.
00:08:36	THAT WILL CHANGE THE VERY FACE OF OUR STATE.
00:08:39	>> THE GOVERNOR STARTED SELLING HIS PLAN A FEW HOURS LATER AT A
00:08:42	VIRTUAL TOWN HALL AT COSI IN COLUMBUS.
00:08:46	THE GOVERNOR AND HIS TEAM TOOK QUESTIONS VIA FACEBOOK AND
00:08:48	TWITTER FROM THOSE WATCHING A LIVE STREAM OF THE SESSION ON
00:08:51	THE OHIO CHANNEL AND ON HIS WEBSITE KASICHFOROHIO.COM.
00:08:56	ON FRIDAY, THE GOVERNOR TRAVELED TO CINCINNATI TO
00:08:59	CONTINUE TO SELL HIS PROPOSAL. AS THEY DID WITH THE GOVERNOR'S
00:09:02	OHIO TURNPIKE PLAN, STAFFERS IN THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE PUT OUT
00:09:06	SOME REACTIONS TO HIS EDUCATION PLAN, INCLUDING THIS ONE FROM
00:09:09	ERIC GORDON, THE C.E.O. OF THE CLEVELAND MUNICIPAL SCHOOL
00:09:14	DISTRICT WHICH WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO
00:09:16	PASS THE SO-CALLED CLEVELAND PLAN.
00:09:18	AT FIRST GLANCE, THERE ARE SEVERAL STRONG INDICATIONS THE
00:09:21	STATE IS ADDRESSING LON-STANDING PROBLEMS WITH
00:09:23	SCHOOL FUNDING IN OHIO. THERE IS AN EFFORT HERE TO
00:09:25	TREAT PEOPLE IN A FAIR AND EQUITABLE MANNER.
00:09:27	IT APPEARS TO BE A THOUGHTFUL PROCESS AND AN ATTEMPT TO
00:09:31	ADDRESS TAX ISSUES WITHOUT SIMPLY TAKING FROM RICH
00:09:34	DISTRICTS TO GIVE MONEY TO POOR ONES.
00:09:36	THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ALSO OFFERED THIS FROM MATTHEW
00:09:40	PETERSEN, A FORMER OHIO PRINCIPAL AND A FELLOW AT
00:09:43	HARVARD UNIVERSITY. IT IS EXCITING TO SEE OHIO
00:09:45	TAKING THE LEAD IN EMPOWERING EDUCATORS TO CREATE THE
00:09:48	LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES OF TOMORROW.
00:09:50	IT WILL ALSO SUPPORT EDUCATORS BY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF MORE
00:09:53	DIVERGENT THINKING. CURRENTLY, THERE IS LITTLE TO
00:09:56	NO INCENTIVE FOR THOSE OUTSIDE OUR FIELD TO ENTER THE
00:09:59	EDUCATION SPACE, AND THIS FUND IS A STEP TOWARD MORE
00:10:02	COLLABORATIVE PROBLEM SOLVING WITH NEW PARTNERS.
00:10:04	THERE WAS ALSO THIS FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, FROM DAVID
00:10:08	JAMES, THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE AKRON CITY SCHOOLS.
00:10:11	I DEFINITELY WANT TO BE A PARTNER IN FINDING MORE WAYS TO
00:10:15	BUILD A WORLD-CLASS EDUCATION SYSTEM.
00:10:17	WHETHER YOU ARE A LARGE, MEDIUM OR SMALL DISTRICT, THE FOCUS
00:10:19	MUST BE ON THE CHILD. PRIORITIZING FUNDING FOR THEIR
00:10:23	PARTICULAR NEEDS IS THE RIGHT APPROACH.
00:10:24	FOR THOSE STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES, WHETHER THEY ARE
00:10:27	LIVING IN POVERTY, ARE DISABLED, OR GIFTED, OR ARE
00:10:31	LEARNING TO SPEAK ENGLISH, WE MUST ENSURE THESE STUDENTS GET
00:10:34	THE EXTRA HELP THEY NEED. THE STUDENTSFIRST OHIO GROUP, A
00:10:38	SCHOOL CHOICE ORGANIZATION LED BY CONTROVERSIAL FORMER D.C.
00:10:42	SCHOOLS CHANCELLOR MICHELLE RHEE, PUT OUT A STATEMENT FROM
00:10:44	DIRECTOR GREG HARRIS. THE PLAN PROCESSES FACILITIES
00:10:48	SUPPORT FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS AND EXPANSION OF SCHOOL CHOICE,
00:10:51	WHICH WILL GIVE PARENTS LIVING IN POVERTY MORE OPTIONS FOR
00:10:54	THEIR CHILDREN. THE PROPOSED INNOVATION FUND TO
00:10:57	SEED BETTER USE OF TECHNOLOGY AND NEW CLASSROOM PRACTICES
00:11:01	SHOULD FURTHER ENHANCE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY.
00:11:03	AS DETAILS EMERGE ABOUT THE CHANGES TO MILL RATES AND THE
00:11:07	EQUAL YIELD FORMULA, STUDENTSFIRST LOOKS FORWARD TO
00:11:11	WORKING WITH GOVERNOR KASICH AND THE OHIO GENERAL ASSEMBLY
00:11:13	TO ENSURE THESE CHANGES HAVE THEIR INTENDED EFFECT OF
00:11:16	HELPING DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.
00:11:18	BUT, OF COURSE, NOT ALL THE REACTION WAS POSITIVE.
00:11:21	OHIO DEMOCRATIC PARTY CHAIRMAN CHRIS REDFERN, WHO IS ALSO A
00:11:25	MEMBER OF THE OHIO HOUSE, HAD THIS TO SAY IN A STATEMENT.
00:11:28	IT'S ALARMING THAT GOVERNOR KASICH DRAFTED THIS PROPOSAL IN
00:11:31	SECRET, WITHOUT THE INPUT OF EDUCATION STAKEHOLDERS AND
00:11:35	CHOICE TO MAKE PERMANENT HIS HISTORIC 2011 CUTS THAT SLASHED
00:11:39	NEARLY $1.8 BILLION FROM STUDENTS AND SCHOOLS AROUND THE
00:11:42	STATE. ACCORDING TO AN INDEPENDENT
00:11:45	STUDY, JOHN KASICH'S DECISION TO DRAMATICALLY DEFUND OHIO'S
00:11:50	EDUCATION PROGRAM HAS ALREADY CAUSED TAXPAYERS IN OVER 194
00:11:54	COMMUNITIES TO FACE MORE THAN $1 BILLION IN NEW TAX
00:11:58	INITIATIVES AT THE BALLOT. KASICH'S EDUCATION PLAN
00:12:01	GUARANTEES THAT THE STATE WILL CONTINUE TO WITHHOLD FUNDING,
00:12:05	LOCAL TAXPAYERS WITH SEE EVEN MORE LEVIES IN ADDITION TO THE
00:12:08	$1 BILLION THEY'VE ALREADY FACED, AND OUR CHILDREN'S
00:12:10	OPPORTUNITIES WILL BE COMPROMISED IN THE FUTURE.
00:12:14	AND THE DAY BEFORE THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN WAS PROPOSED, A
00:12:17	TRIO OF HOUSE DEMOCRATS OUTLINED WHAT THEY SAY ARE
00:12:20	THREE COMPONENTS THAT NEED TO BE PART OF ANY SUCCESSFUL
00:12:23	EDUCATION REFORM. REPRESENTATIVES TERESA FEDOR OF
00:12:27	TOLEDO, MATT LUNDY AND DEBBIE PHILLIPS SAID EARLY LEARNING
00:12:32	PROGRAMS, LOCAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF AND MORE ACCOUNTABILITY
00:12:34	FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS WERE CRITICAL TO EDUCATION REFORMS
00:12:37	AS THEY SEE IT. >> AND I THINK IF THIS
00:12:40	ADMINISTRATION WOULD LOOK AT EDUCATION IS ECONOMIC
00:12:43	DEVELOPMENT, ALL I EVER HEAR AROUND THESE HALLS ARE JOBS
00:12:47	OHIO THIS, JOBS OHIO THAT, I DON'T HEAR EDUCATION IS
00:12:52	ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO START F
00:12:54	WE MAKE IT A PRIORITY, THEN WE FIND THE DOLLARS.
00:12:56	>> I THINK INSTEAD OF CREATING GUARANTEES THAT ARE UNFUNDED,
00:13:00	WE NEED A GUARANTEE THAT IT MEANS SOMETHING THROUGH
00:13:04	FUNDING. SCHOOLS NEED THE PROPER TOOLS
00:13:06	AND THE PROPER FUNDING TO DO THEIR JOBS.
00:13:09	ALL THE LETSTION THAT SEEMED TO PASS IN THIS LAST GENERAL
00:13:12	ASSEMBLY WAS BASICALLY A SERIES OF UNFUNDED MANDATES THAT
00:13:17	SCHOOLS ARE LEFT WITHOUT THOSE RESOURCES TO ACCOMPLISH THEM,
00:13:20	IT JUST PUTS A GREATER SQUEEZE ON EVERYBODY.
00:13:23	>> THERE NEED TO BE REAL REFORMS THAT ARE BASED ON THE
00:13:26	EVIDENCE OF WHAT WORKS TO HELP STUDENTS IMPROVE ACADEMICALLY.
00:13:31	IT CAN'T JUST BE RHETORIC AND HOPE THAT CHANGING THINGS IS
00:13:35	SOMEHOW GOING TO PRODUCE A BETTER RESULT.
00:13:37	IT HAS TO BE BASED ON EVIDENCE OF WHAT WE KNOW WILL BE
00:13:42	EFFECTIVE FOR STUDENTS, AND THE RESOURCES HAVE TO BE THERE TO
00:13:46	PROVIDE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. IF YOU JUST SAY TO SCHOOLS YOU
00:13:51	MUST ACHIEVE AT THESE LEVELS AND DON'T PROVIDE THE RESOURCES
00:13:54	TO MAKE SURE THAT KIDS HAVE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, IT'S
00:13:57	MEANINGLESS. >> 40% FAILURE RATE.
00:14:02	IT'S THE OPPOSITE FOR TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
00:14:05	40% SUCCESS RATE. THOSE DOLLARS ARE SO CRITICAL
00:14:09	TO BE PUT IN THE RIGHT PLACES, TO BE PUT IN QUALITY PROGRAMS
00:14:14	THAT ARE GOING TO WORK AND NOT MAKE IT SO POLITICAL.
00:14:18	NOT IDEOLOGY, BUT LET'S LOOK AT THE RESEARCH THAT'S PEER
00:14:21	REVIEWED AND LET'S BE HONEST AND NOT JUST POLITICAL.
00:14:25	>> THE MORE THAT WE CUT PUBLIC EDUCATION, THE GREATER THE
00:14:29	RELIANCE IS ON LOCAL PROPERTY TAXES.
00:14:31	THE MORE THAT WE SHIFT DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW THE STUDENT,
00:14:34	THAT MEANS HIGHER PROPERTY TAXES.
00:14:38	THE MORE THAT WE MOVE AWAY FROM CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOOL FUNDING,
00:14:42	YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO WHEN I TALK TO RESIDENTS IN THE
00:14:45	COMMUNITY, THEY COME TO ME AND SAY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
00:14:48	SCHOOL FUNDING. IT'S, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MY
00:14:51	PROPERTY TAXES. AND THAT'S WHERE THE DISCUSSION
00:14:53	ALWAYS BEGINS. AND WE JUST HAVE REACHED A
00:14:55	POINT IN OHIO WHERE WE'RE SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY A VERY
00:15:00	WEALTHY COMMUNITY, A NINE MILL LEVY JUST WENT DOWN.
00:15:04	YOU KNOW, WE'RE REACHING THAT THRESHOLD WHERE THE MILLEDGE
00:15:06	NOW HAS TO BE SO HIGH TO MAKE UP FOR THE DIFFERENCE THAT THE
00:15:10	COMMUNITY IS SAYING WE JUST CAN'T SUPPORT IT.
00:15:12	>> THE THREE SAID DEMOCRATS WERE NOT TOLD OF ANY OF THE
00:15:16	PROPOSALS OF THE SCHOOL FUNDING FORMULA BEFORE IT WAS RELEASED
00:15:19	BUT SAID THEIR CONSTITUENCIES, INCLUDING URBAN AND RURAL
00:15:22	SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND UNIONIZED TEACHERS HAVE IDEAS, AND THEY
00:15:25	SAY THEY HOPE THEY GET TO OFFER THEM.
00:15:27	THE SCHOOL FUNDING FORMULA IS JUST A PART OF THE GOVERNOR'S
00:15:30	BUDGET, WHICH IS EXPECTED ON MONDAY.
00:15:32	A FEW HOURS BEFORE HIS FUNDING FORMULA WAS REVEALED, THE
00:15:36	GOVERNOR WAS MAKING NEWS ON THAT TOPIC.
00:15:38	GOVERNOR KASICH APPEARED BEFORE THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
00:15:41	LEGISLATIVE PREVIEW SESSION AT THE MOYER JUDICIAL CENTER A
00:15:44	BLOCK AWAY FROM THE STATEHOUSE EARLY THURSDAY.
00:15:46	HE WAS ASKED ABOUT SOMETHING I ASKED BUDGET DIRECTOR TIM KEEN
00:15:50	ON THIS SHOW RECENTLY ABOUT WHETHER THE GOVERNOR WAS
00:15:52	CONSIDERING EXPANDING MEDICAID. AND GOVERNOR KASICH HINTED THAT
00:15:56	HE JUST MIGHT HAVE PUT THAT IN THE BUDGET.
00:15:58	>> I DON'T VIEW THIS AS OBAMACARE AT ALL.
00:16:02	OBAMACARE, YOU KNOW, INVOLVING AN INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.
00:16:07	I DON'T SUPPORT OLE MISSCARE THAT'S GOING TO COME IN AND
00:16:11	ELIMINATE THE ABILITY TO HAVE AN INSURANCE RATING SYSTEM AND
00:16:15	TO COME IN AND DICTATE THAT, I DON'T SUPPORT AT ALL.
00:16:19	BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE. THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE AT
00:16:24	THE LOWER ECONOMIC END. THIS IS ABOUT A GOVERNMENT
00:16:27	THAT'S PROPOSING TO PAY 100% OF THOSE COSTS FOR THREE YEARS,
00:16:31	AND THEN IT DROPS TO 90%, BUT, OF COURSE, THE CURRENT MEDICAID
00:16:36	SYSTEM REIMBURSES US AT ABOUT 62%.
00:16:40	SO MY CONCERN? MY CONCERN ABOUT IT ALL IS CAN
00:16:45	YOU TRUST WASHINGTON TO KEEP ANY PROMISE THAT THEY MAKE?
00:16:47	>> THE GOVERNOR WAS ALSO ASKED ABOUT HIS DECISION TO GO AHEAD
00:16:51	AND SELL BONDS TO FUND THE STATE'S LEASE OF ITS LIQUOR
00:16:54	PROFITS TO JOBSOHIO AS THE OHIO SUPREME COURT IS POISED TO TAKE
00:16:59	UP PROGRESS OHIO'S LAWSUIT OVER THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF
00:17:04	JOBSOHIO. AFTER FIRST SAYING THAT THOSE
00:17:05	WHO ARE CRITICAL OF JOBSOHIO, ARE QUOTING HERE, "NIHILISTS
00:17:10	THAT WANT TO DESTROY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OHIO," THE
00:17:14	GOVERNOR SOUNDED OFF. >> CAN YOU TELL ME WHY SOMEBODY
00:17:16	KEEPS APPEALING DECISIONS? WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO DO?
00:17:19	THIS IS NOT ABOUT CONSTITUTIONALITY?
00:17:21	THIS IS ABOUT WRECKING OHIO'S ECONOMY AND DESTROYING PEOPLE'S
00:17:23	JOBS. THAT'S WHAT THIS LAWSUIT IS
00:17:26	ABOUT. THERE'S NO LEGITIMACY TO THIS.
00:17:30	CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE. COME ON.
00:17:32	THAT'S A POLITICAL ISSUE DESIGNED TO WRECK THE PROGRESS
00:17:36	THAT WE'RE HAVING IN OHIO. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING
00:17:38	TO HAVE TO ANSWER TO A MUCH HIGHER POWER THAN ME ABOUT WHY
00:17:42	THEY HAVE APPEALED AND APPEALED AND APPEALED.
00:17:47	THIS COURT JUST THREW FOUR OF THEIR ISSUES OUT.
00:17:49	THERE'S ONLY ONE LEFT STANDING, AND THERE HAVE BEEN TWO COURTS,
00:17:52	INDEPENDENT COURTS, THAT HAVE RULED THAT WAY.
00:17:54	THIS IS AN EFFORT TO BLOCK PROGRESS IN THIS STATE.
00:17:57	AND THIS HAS BEEN AN EFFORT TO DESTROY JOBS IN THIS STATE.
00:18:01	AND SHAME ON THEM. >> OUR BILL COHEN FOLLOWED UP A
00:18:04	FEW MINUTES LATER. >> YOU MADE A VERY STRONG
00:18:08	ACCUSATION YOU DID NOT SAY THAT FOES OF JOBSOHIO WHO KEEPS
00:18:12	SUING SIMPLY HAVE A DIFFERENT TACTIC OR STRATEGY ON HOW TO
00:18:16	CREATE JOBS. YOU SAID THAT THEY WERE
00:18:19	PURPOSEFULLY TRYING TO WRECK OHIO'S ECONOMY.
00:18:21	>> I BELIEVE THAT. I BELIEVE THESE PEOPLE THAT
00:18:24	KEEP SUING AND INTERVENING AND TRYING TO PUT LAWSUITS IN AND
00:18:28	QUESTIONING CONSTITUTIONALITY WHICH IS SILLY, AND WE'VE
00:18:31	ALREADY HAD TWO COURTS RULE, INDEPENDENT COURTS RULE AGAINST
00:18:34	THEM, THEY'RE OBSTRUCTIONISTS. AND THEY'RE USING -- THEY USE
00:18:37	THESE TACTICS TO TRY TO DESTROY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SO SOMEHOW
00:18:42	THEY CAN GET BACK IN POWER. >> A FEW HOURS AFTER THAT, THE
00:18:45	STATE'S TOP LAWMAKERS IN THE OHIO HOUSE AND SENATE WERE IN
00:18:48	THE SAME ROOM THE GOVERNOR HAD BEEN AND WERE ASKED TO REACT TO
00:18:51	THAT. HOUSE MINORITY LEADER ARMOND
00:18:54	BUDISH AT FIRST ADDRESSED THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THE
00:18:58	LAWSUITS CHALLENGING THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF JOBSOHIO
00:19:01	ARE FAIR. >> WE HAD SEVERAL OF OUR
00:19:07	ATTORNEY MEMBERS TALK ABOUT THE YOU CONSTITUTIONAL PROBLEMS
00:19:12	WITH THE BILL, MAKING IT -- REMOVING ACCOUNTABILITY AND
00:19:19	SUNSHINE AND ETHICS LAWS FROM THE PRIVATE ORGANIZATION AND
00:19:25	THOSE ISSUES HAVE NOT GONE AWAY.
00:19:28	I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE PROGRESS OHIO CASE IS A NUSE
00:19:32	ANN CASE. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
00:19:35	SUPREME COURT RULING. AND HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
00:19:40	THE PEOPLE OF OHIO TO GET A RULING ON THE MERITS OF THE
00:19:43	CASE. THERE HAS NOT BEEN A RULING ON
00:19:46	THE MERITS YET, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME VERY REAL ISSUES
00:19:49	THERE. TO CALL IT A NUISANCE CASE IS,
00:19:52	I THINK, UNFAIR. >> BUT WHEN PRESSED TO RESPOND
00:19:55	TO THE GOVERNOR'S COMMENTS ABOUT DEMOCRATS WANTING TO
00:19:58	WRECK THE ECONOMY TO GET BACK INTO POWER, HOUSE SPEAKER BILL
00:20:03	BATCHELDER REACTED SIMPLY AND STRONGLY.
00:20:05	>> IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE LEGISLATURE, OBVIOUSLY, YOU
00:20:08	CAN'T TALK THAT WAY. IT'S NOT POLITE.
00:20:11	>> SENATE MINORITY LEADER ERIC KEARNEY OF CINCINNATI ALSO
00:20:14	NOTED THAT RULE. >> I WOULD JUST ASK THE
00:20:17	GOVERNOR TO PERHAPS USE THAT RULE WHEN TALKING ABOUT MEMBERS
00:20:21	OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, AS WELL I THINK IT'S PRETTY ABSURD
00:20:26	TO SAY THAT AS A GROUP OF PEOPLE DEMOCRATIC LEGISLATORS
00:20:34	OR DEMOCRATIC CITIZENS DON'T WANT TO SEE OHIO'S ECONOMY
00:20:37	IMPROVE. THERE'S MORE THAN ONE WAY TO
00:20:40	IMPROVE THE OHIO ECONOMY. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT
00:20:44	THEORIES. THAT'S WHY THERE THERE'S NOT
00:20:46	JUST ONE ECONOMIST OR ONE SCHOOL OF ECONOMY -- OR SCHOOL
00:20:49	OF ECONOMICS. AND SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE
00:20:53	NEED TO TAKE A CAUTIOUS APPROACH WHEN ANALYZING OTHER
00:21:00	PEOPLE OR WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE OTHER PEOPLE'S MOTIVATIONS.
00:21:03	>> THE LEGISLATORS WERE ALSO ASKED ABOUT GUN LAWS IN OHIO.
00:21:07	KEARNEY STARTED OFF BY TALKING ABOUT A FAMILY FRIEND WHO HAD
00:21:09	BEEN KILLED IN A GUN VIOLENCE INCIDENT THE NIGHT BEFORE, BUT
00:21:13	NOTED THAT EVEN AMONG DEMOCRATS THERE ARE LOTS OF QUESTIONS TO
00:21:15	ANSWER ABOUT REGULATING GUNS. >> I THINK THAT MY CAUCUS IS
00:21:19	TRYING TO WRESTLE WITH THOSE COMPONENTS, BECAUSE WE HAVE
00:21:23	PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE IN OUR CAUCUS, AND
00:21:26	THEY'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP LEGISLATION THAT'S FAIR AROUND
00:21:29	THAT ISSUE. SENATOR SMITH FROM THE
00:21:32	CLEVELAND AREA IS TAKING THE LEAD FOR OUR CAUCUS ON THIS
00:21:35	ISSUE, AND SHE'S MEETING WITH GROUPS SUCH AS THE N.R.A., THE
00:21:41	BUCKEYE FIREARMS ASSOCIATION, AND THERE'S ANOTHER GROUP WITH
00:21:47	WHICH -- WITH WHOM SHE'S MEETING.
00:21:51	I'M NOT SURE, BUT PERHAPS THAT IS THE NAME OF THE GROUP.
00:21:53	AND SO SHE'S GOING TO INTRODUCE LEGISLATION AROUND THAT ISSUE.
00:21:58	AND I IMAGINE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BUT NOT OUR ENTIRE
00:22:01	CAUCUS, WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT MEASURE.
00:22:04	>> SENATE PRESIDENT KEITH FABER SAID HE HOPED TO HAVE HEARINGS
00:22:06	ON THE ISSUE. >> I HAVE NEVER BEEN A
00:22:09	PROPONENT OF ONE SIZE FITS ALL, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
00:22:12	THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT IS TRYING TO FIND
00:22:15	SIMPLE OUT-OF-THE-BOX SOLUTIONS TO A VERY COMPLEX PROBLEM.
00:22:18	AND SO I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME LOCAL AUTONOMY, SOME
00:22:23	LOCAL DISCRETION, SOME LOCAL OPTIONS FOR EACH COMMUNITY AND
00:22:26	EACH SCHOOL DISTRICT TO SOLVE AND HAVE OPTIONS TO ADDRESS
00:22:29	THEIR SCHOOL SAFETY NEEDS. >> FABER ALSO SAID HE'S VERY
00:22:32	INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS AND FUNDING AS
00:22:35	IT RELATES TO GUN VIOLENCE AND SCHOOL SHOOTINGS.
00:22:38	THAT WAS GOOD NEWS TO HOUSE MINORITY LEADER BUDISH.
00:22:42	>> I WAS OUTSPOKEN IN MY CRITICISM IN THE LAST BUDGET
00:22:45	ABOUT THE HUGE CUTS TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.
00:22:50	I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TAKE A VERY LONG LOOK AT RESTORING AS
00:22:55	MUCH OF THAT AS WE CAN, MAYBE GOING BEYOND, THAT'S AN AREA
00:23:00	THAT I THINK DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS CAN AGREE ON.
00:23:03	>> SPEAKER BATCHELDER SAID HE'S CONCERNED WITH WHAT'S GOING ON
00:23:07	IN URBAN AREA WITH REGARD TO GUNS, BUT BECAUSE OHIO IS VERY
00:23:11	DIVERSE, HE WANTS TO LOOK AT THE ISSUE OF GUNS AND GUN
00:23:14	REGULATIONS IN A BROADWAY. >> AND WE DO HAVE A GREAT
00:23:16	CONCERN THAT WE DO NOT LOSE A VERY IMPORTANT CONSTITUTIONAL
00:23:20	RIGHT AS A RESULT OF AN EFFORT TO TRY TO SOLVE A PROBLEM WHICH
00:23:27	MIGHT GET OVERSOLVED IN A SENSE THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE
00:23:31	TO PROTECT THEMSELVES USING FIREARMS, TOO.
00:23:33	>> THE LAWMAKERS WERE ALSO ASKED ABOUT ELECTION LAWS.
00:23:36	FABER SAID THEY'LL BE A PRIORITY IN THE SENATE, WITH
00:23:39	CHANGE NECESSARY REDISTRICTING NEAR THE TOP OF THE LIST.
00:23:42	BUDISH HAS SAID HE FEELS REDISTRICTING IS THE NUMBER ONE
00:23:45	ISSUE FACING OHIO, AND HE SAYS THIS PAST ELECTION PROVES IT.
00:23:50	>> IN 2012, NOBODY CAN ARGUE, IT WAS A DEMOCRAT YEAR.
00:23:55	PRESIDENT OBAMA WON. SENATOR BROWN WON.
00:23:59	IN THE STATE HOUSE RACES THAT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH,
00:24:03	DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES RECEIVED 150,000 MORE VOTES THAN
00:24:08	REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES, AND YET REPUBLICANS DOMINATE IN THE
00:24:11	HOUSE. THEY DOMINATE IN THE SENATE.
00:24:14	AND THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION WILL BE 75%
00:24:18	REPUBLICAN. THAT DOES NOT REFLECT THE VOTES
00:24:20	OF THE PEOPLE OF OHIO. >> BUT BATCHELDER SAID THAT'S
00:24:23	NOT ACCURATE. >> I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME
00:24:27	CONFUSION HERE IN THE RESPONSE OF MY LEARNED COLLEAGUE OF THE
00:24:34	99 HOUSE RACES IN 2012, PARDON ME, 12 OF THEM WERE
00:24:42	UNCONTESTED. THAT IS ONLY ONE DEMOCRAT OR
00:24:46	ONE REPUBLICAN WAS RUNNING. WHEN YOU EXCLUDE THE RACES
00:24:49	WHERE THERE WERE NOT CONTESTS, HOUSE REPUBLICANS EARNED OVER
00:24:53	150,000 MORE VOTES THAN THE DEMOCRATS.
00:24:56	TO SAY THAT THE DEMOCRATS WON THE POPULAR VOTE, TO BE FAIR,
00:25:01	IS MISLEADING. >> WHILE FABER SAID ELECTION
00:25:03	LAW CHANGES ARE LIKELY IN THE LEGISLATURE THIS SESSION,
00:25:07	KEARNEY AND BUDISH SAID THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT CHANGES THAT
00:25:10	WOULD INCLUDE A PHOTO I.D. REQUIREMENT FOR VOTERS TO
00:25:14	COMBAT VOTER FRAUD. BUDISH SAYS THAT IS "A SOLUTION
00:25:19	TO A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST."
00:25:21	NEXT WEEK, THE BUDGET. AND IN TWO WEEKS, THE STATE OF
00:25:23	THE STATE SPEECH, WHICH IS SET FOR :30 ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 19
00:25:28	IN LIMEA. WE'LL HAVE COVERAGE OF BOTH.
00:25:30	AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK. FOR MY COLLEAGUES AT OHIO
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