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KAREN: THE SENATE UNVEILS ITS
00:00:31BUDGET - LESS SPENDING OVERALL,
WITH AN INCOME TAX CUT INCREASE
00:00:34AND A TAX HIKE.
AND SUMMER ISN'T THE SAME AT ONE
00:00:38CENTRAL OHIO LAKE.
THE HEAD OF THE AGENCY THAT
00:00:41CHECKS OUT OHIO'S DAMS TALKS
ABOUT THEIR SAFETY AROUND THE
00:00:46STATE.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:00:49OHIO."
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00:00:56KAREN: REPUBLICANS IN THE OHIO
SENATE HAVE UNVEILED A BUDGET
00:01:00THAT'S MORE THAN A BILLION
DOLLARS LESS THAN THE GOVERNOR'S
00:01:02ORIGINAL PLAN, BUT INCLUDES THE
SAME INCOME TAX CUT AS THE HOUSE
00:01:04BUDGET.
SENATE PRESIDENT KEITH FABER OF
00:01:09CELINA SAID HIS CAUCUS' PROPOSAL
SPENDS $1.7 BILLION LESS THAN
00:01:14THE HOUSE PLAN AND $1.1 BILLION
LESS THAN GOV.
00:01:17JOHN KASICH'S INITIAL BUDGET
PLAN.
00:01:20BUT FABER SAID IT DOES INCLUDE
TAX CUTS, ESPECIALLY TARGETED AT
00:01:23SMALL BUSINESSES.
>> IN OUR BUDGET REDUCES OHIO
00:01:30INCOME TAX RATE, OUT.
PFIZER .3% ACROSS-THE-BOARD
00:01:34SAVING $1.6 BILLION OVER THE TWO
YEARS.
00:01:37IN ELIMINATE THE TAX BURDEN ON
SMALL BUSINESSES FOR ALL INCOME
00:01:42UP TO THE FIRST 250,000 DOLLARS
AND THEN CREATE AN INTEGRATED
00:01:48NEW FLAT TAX FOR SMALL
BUSINESSES ABOVE THAT INCOME TAX
00:01:50LEVEL.
IT REMOVES A PROPOSED STATE
00:01:54INCOME TAX ON SOCIAL SECURITY
BENEFITS THAT WAS IN THE
00:01:57GOVERNORS AND THE HOUSE VERSION
SAVING SENIOR CITIZENS MORE THAN
00:02:00$260 MILLION.
KAREN: THE 6.3% INCOME TAX CUT
00:02:04IN THE SENATE BUDGET IS WAY
BELOW KASICH'S PROPOSED 23%
00:02:06INCOME TAX CUT.
BUT THE AMOUNT IN THE SENATE
00:02:09BUDGET WAS STILL A BIT OF A
SURPRISE, SINCE FABER WAS
00:02:11TELLING REPORTERS A WEEK BEFORE
THAT HE THOUGHT SENATORS COULD
00:02:16INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF THE TOTAL
NET TAX CUT ABOVE WHAT THE
00:02:19HOUSE'S PROPOSAL.
BUT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN BECAUSE
00:02:23HE THOUGHT A DEAL ON A TAX
INCREASE ON OIL AND GAS DRILLERS
00:02:26WAS CLOSER THAN IT WAS.
BUT A SEVERANCE TAX HIKE WAS NOT
00:02:28IN THIS BUDGET.
WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE CHAIR
00:02:32BOB PETERSON OF SABINA IN
SOUTHWESTERN OHIO SAID SENATORS
00:02:35HAD BEEN WORKING TO PULL THE
KASICH ADMINISTRATION AND THE
00:02:39OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY TOGETHER
TOWARD A DEAL, BUT IT DIDN'T
00:02:43HAPPEN.
>> YOU KNOW, HOW THESE THINGS
00:02:46COME ABOUT - SOMETIMES THE
PRESSURE OF THE BUT IT IS
00:02:52HELPFUL.
AFTER ARGUING AND FUSSING,
00:02:54CERTAINLY THE HOUSE LED SOME
GREAT EFFORTS OVER THE PAST TWO
00:02:59YEARS IN TRYING TO BRING THIS
TOGETHER, WE ARE BUILDING THOSE
00:03:01EFFORTS AND HAVE MADE
SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS.
00:03:04WHILE THE NEWS TODAY IS ABOUT
MEDICAID REFORM, SIGNIFICANT TAX
00:03:08CUTS, GROWING OHIO'S ECONOMY, I
THINK MAYBE THE NEWS NEXT WEEK
00:03:15IS THAT WE REACH A COMPROMISE IN
DIFFERENT FORMS.
00:03:16KAREN: THERE IS, HOWEVER, A
40-CENT A PACK INCREASE IN
00:03:20CIGARETTE TAXES, WHICH RAISES
THE PER-PACK TAX TO $1.65.
00:03:23THE TAXES ON OTHER TOBACCO
PRODUCTS SUCH AS CIGARS AND
00:03:26CHEWING TOBACCO WOULD GO UP
22.5%.
00:03:29THAT WOULD BRING IN MORE THAN
$400 MILLION, SAID FABER, WITH
00:03:32$8 MILLION GOING TO SMOKING
CESSATION EFFORTS.
00:03:36BUT THAT TAX INCREASE ISN'T
EXTENDED TO ELECTRONIC
00:03:38CIGARETTES.
>> IT'S STILL A NEW INDUSTRY.
00:03:46WE HAD A DISCUSSION, THE REVENUE
NUMBERS WERE UNSTABLE TO PREDICT
00:03:51.
WE ARE TRYING TO FIND STABILITY
00:03:53AND PREDICTABILITY.
THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, FRANKLY,
00:03:57THE SCIENCE SAYS E-CIGARETTES
ARE SAFER.
00:03:59WE ARE TRYING TO BALANCE THAT
ISSUE.
00:04:00I'M NOT SAYING THERE SHOULD NOT
BE A TAX AT SOME POINT BUT ONE
00:04:04OF THE ISSUES YOU HAVE IS THE
FDA STILL ALLOWS YOU TO PURCHASE
00:04:07THAT OVER THE INTERNET.
YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU
00:04:11UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE DOING
BEFORE YOU DO IT.
00:04:12WE DIDN'T THINK WE HAD ENOUGH
INFORMATION AT THE TIME TO GO
00:04:16FORWARD.
KAREN: THERE ARE OTHER CHANGES
00:04:17IN THE SENATE BUDGET.
PRESIDENT PRO TEM CHRIS WIDENER
00:04:18OF SPRINGFIELD SAID THERE'S MORE
MONEY FOR K-12 PUBLIC
00:04:21EDUCATION.
>> WE PLAN TO INVEST $935
00:04:26MILLION NEW DOLLARS, OUT, STATE
THAT INCREASES FY 15 SPENDING BY
00:04:36$100 MILLION AND THEN ANOTHER
$230 MILLION IN FY 17.
00:04:39AS COMPARED TO THE TOTAL DOLLARS
WE ARE SPENDING IN FY 15, AGAIN,
00:04:46$935 MILLION GOES TO THE
SCHOOLS, CHILDREN OF OHIO.
00:04:49WE PLAN TO HOLD SCHOOLS HARMLESS
TO THEIR FY 15 STATE FUNDING SO
00:04:56THAT ALL SCHOOLS RECEIVE WHAT
THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY RECEIVING
00:04:57THIS YEAR.
IN ADDITION, WE PLAN TO PICK UP
00:05:03ON A CONCEPT THAT BOTH THE
GOVERNOR AND THE HOUSE WERE
00:05:04RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING FORWARD
AND THAT IS HOW WE CAN CONTINUE
00:05:07TO DRIVE MORE DOLLARS TO LOW
DENSITY AND LOW CAPACITY
00:05:13DISTRICTS AROUND THE STATE OF
OHIO.
00:05:14KAREN: AND THERE'S $240 MILLION
FOR HIGHER EDUCATION, ALONG WITH
00:05:16A TWO YEAR TUITION FREEZE AND A
HOLD ON FEE INCREASES.
00:05:20THE BUDGET ALSO MAKES SOME
CHANGES IN MEDICAID.
00:05:22IT REDUCES OVERALL MEDICAID
SPENDING BY MORE THAN $1
00:05:26BILLION, THOUGH SENATORS WERE
UNCLEAR ON HOW THEY DID THAT.
00:05:30HOWEVER, SOME OF THE SAVINGS
WILL COME FROM A REQUIREMENT
00:05:33THAT MEDICAID RECIPIENTS
CONTRIBUTE TO HEALTH-CARE
00:05:36ACCOUNTS.
DAVID BURKE FROM MARYSVILLE
00:05:39CHAIRS THE SENATE'S MEDICAID
COMMITTEE, AND HE ADMITS
00:05:42REQUIRING SMALL PAYMENTS FROM
PEOPLE MAKING ABOVE 138% OF THE
00:05:46FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL - ABOUT
$27,300 FOR A FAMILY OF THREE -
00:05:50IS A BURDEN.
DAVID: EVEN FOLKS MAKING $50,000
00:05:59A YEAR WILL HAVE TO PAY $300 OUT
OF THEIR PAYCHECK EVERY MONTH TO
00:06:01MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENT.
BUT THAT IS THE WORLD WE LIVE
00:06:02IN.
AND TRYING TO AVOID THESE CLIFFS
00:06:05THAT BECOME BARRIERS TO
EMPLOYMENT AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO
00:06:07ENGAGE IN A MEANINGFUL WAY AS
THEY MOVE UP THE SOCIO-ECONOMIC
00:06:09LADDER IS A POSITIVE THING.
WAITING UNTIL TO YOU GET TO
00:06:13$45,000 AND HAVING AN EPIPHANY
NOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PAY
00:06:16$200 A MONTH FOR YOUR INSURANCE
IS ABSURD.
00:06:18THAT IS A PATHWAY THAT NEEDS TO
BE DEVELOPED LONG-TERM.
00:06:21AND IF IT'S JUST TWO DOLLARS OR
FIVE DOLLARS - IT'S THE ACT OF
00:06:25ACTUALLY PARTICIPATING THAT
WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE, NOT SOME
00:06:27KIND OF FISCAL RECOUPMENT.
KAREN: THE BUDGET ALSO RESTORES
00:06:31MEDICAID BENEFITS FOR PREGNANT
WOMEN MAKING UP TO 200% OF THE
00:06:34FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL - AROUND
$39,500 FOR A FAMILY OF THREE.
00:06:39AND IT BRINGS BACK BREAST AND
CERVICAL CANCER SCREENINGS FOR
00:06:41WOMEN ON MEDICAID.
SOME OTHER CHANGES IN THE SENATE
00:06:45BUDGET, IT PUTS $10 MILLION
TOWARD POLICE TRAINING PROGRAMS,
00:06:48USING MONEY FROM THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT FUND.
00:06:50IT SETS ASIDE $13 MILLION FOR
ELECTRONIC POLL BOOKS, AND
00:06:54CREATES A $1 MILLION LOAN
PROGRAM FOR LAKE-ADJACENT
00:06:58BUSINESSES FACING ECONOMIC
DISTRESS, SUCH AS THOSE NEAR THE
00:07:02TROUBLED DAM AT BUCKEYE LAKE.
WE'LL HAVE MORE ON BUCKEYE LAKE
00:07:04COMING UP.
IT PUTS $1 MILLION EACH YEAR
00:07:07INTO TEACH FOR AMERICA.
IT HALTS THE HISTORIC
00:07:11PRESERVATION TAX CREDIT FOR TWO
YEARS, RESTORES INCOME TAX
00:07:14CREDIT FOR DONATIONS TO
POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS THAT HAD
00:07:17BEEN CUT FROM HOUSE BUDGET, AND
ELIMINATES FEBRUARY SPECIAL
00:07:19ELECTIONS.
IT PROPOSES A TWO-TIERED
00:07:24ZERO-TOLERANCE POLICY FOR
VIOLENT OR DISRUPTIVE STUDENTS,
00:07:27IT BANS JOURNALISTS FROM SEEING
CONCEALED CARRY HANDGUN
00:07:30LICENSES, ESSENTIALLY MAKING
SURE NO ONE FROM THE PUBLIC CAN
00:07:33SEE THEM, AND IT SCRAPS A
REQUIRED FORM THAT FIREWORKS
00:07:37BUYERS HAD TO SIGN, SAYING THEY
WERE TAKING THEM OUT OF STATE.
00:07:42BEFORE THE BUDGET WAS UNVEILED,
ACTIVISTS FOR OHIO'S LOW INCOME
00:07:45RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY SENIORS
AND CHILDREN, SAID THEY WERE
00:07:48READY FOR THE WORST. ADVOCATES
FOR OHIO'S FUTURE NOTED THAT
00:07:52HALF OF OHIO'S FAMILIES ARE
MAKING LESS THAN $47,000, AND
00:07:56THE GROUP SAYS IT'S BEEN PUSHING
LAWMAKERS TO INVEST IN HUMAN
00:08:00SERVICES AND RESOURCES, SUCH AS
INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT,
00:08:03FUNDING FOR ELDER AND CHILD
ABUSE PREVENTION, AND MAKING
00:08:06CHANGES TO THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
SYSTEM.
00:08:09COL OWENS IS THE CO-CHAIR OF
ADVOCATES FOR OHIO'S FUTURE, AND
00:08:12SAID THE GROUP HAS NO POSITION
ON TAX CUTS, BUT IN ANSWERING A
00:08:16QUESTION FROM OHIO PUBLIC RADIO
AND TV'S JO INGLES, HE SAID THAT
00:08:19THEY'RE TRYING TO CONVINCE
LAWMAKERS TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
00:08:23COL: I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF
FERMENT GOING ON NOW AMONGST
00:08:32LEGISLATORS AS WELL AS IN OTHER
QUARTERS ABOUT WHAT THE RIGHT
00:08:36WAY FOR OHIO TO GO IS, IT GOES
BACK TO YOUR EARLIER QUESTION,
00:08:38ABOUT PRIORITIES.
WHAT WE BELIEVE IS, FIRST OF
00:08:44ALL, IT IS OUR DUTY, BECAUSE OF
WHO WE ARE, AS ADVOCATES, AS A
00:08:49COALITION, TO SPEAK TO THE
THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE NEED TO
00:08:52BE DONE IN ORDER FOR OHIO TO
MOVE AHEAD.
00:08:54THAT IS WHAT WE DO.
WE THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
00:09:02PEOPLE OVER THERE THAT REALLY DO
NOT WANT TO DO THOSE THINGS.
00:09:03THERE ARE SOME OTHERS THAT DO.
I DON'T THINK THE FINAL ACT OF
00:09:08THAT PLAY HAS BEEN WRITTEN.
KAREN: MEMBERS OF ADVOCATES FOR
00:09:11OHIO'S FUTURE WERE AMONG THE
FIRST TO TESTIFY BEFORE THE
00:09:13SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE, WHICH
STARTED HEARINGS ON TUESDAY.
00:09:15HEARINGS WERE ONLY PLANNED FOR
THIS WEEK, WITH A VOTE ON THE
00:09:18BUDGET SET FOR WEDNESDAY, JUNE
17.
00:09:23SENATE MINORITY LEADER JOE
SCHIAVONI OF BOARDMAN NEAR
00:09:26YOUNGSTOWN WAS ON THIS SHOW LAST
WEEK, TALKING ABOUT THE 500
00:09:29AMENDMENTS THAT HIS 10-MEMBER
CAUCUS HAD PROPOSED TO THEIR 23
00:09:32REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES.
SCHIAVONI'S OFFICE ISSUED A
00:09:36STATEMENT AFTER THE BUDGET
UNVEILING THAT READS IN PART,
00:09:39THE SENATE HAS MADE SOME
POSITIVE CHANGES TO THE STATE
00:09:42BUDGET, INCLUDING MORE FUNDING
FOR HIGHER EDUCATION AND POLICE
00:09:45TRAINING, BUT OVERALL IT HAS
TAKEN SEVERAL STEPS IN THE WRONG
00:09:47DIRECTION.
INSTEAD OF INVESTING IN OUR
00:09:50CHILDREN'S FUTURE, THE SENATE
CUT EDUCATION FUNDING BY ALMOST
00:09:54$65 MILLION AS COMPARED TO THE
BUDGET BILL THAT PASSED THE
00:09:57HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
THE SENATE'S PLAN SHIFTS FUNDING
00:10:02FROM SOME URBAN HIGH POVERTY
DISTRICTS TO WEALTHIER SCHOOLS
00:10:05AND THAT MEANS FEWER STATE
DOLLARS FOR CHILDREN WHO ATTEND
00:10:08MANY OF OHIO'S LARGEST SCHOOL
DISTRICTS.
00:10:10THE PROPOSED BUDGET ALSO FAILS
TO ADEQUATELY INVEST IN OHIO'S
00:10:14COMMUNITIES AFTER YEARS OF
BUDGET CUTS, .IT IS ALSO
00:10:17DISAPPOINTING THAT THE SENATE
FAILED TO REMOVE ANTI-WORKER
00:10:19PROVISIONS THAT INFRINGE ON
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RIGHTS AND
00:10:22PUT GOOD MIDDLE CLASS JOBS AT
RISK.
00:10:26AS FOR GOV. KASICH, HE WAS OUT
OF TOWN THE DAY THE BUDGET WAS
00:10:29UNVEILED.
HE WAS AT A TURKEY FARM IN DARKE
00:10:32COUNTY ON THE BORDER WITH
INDIANA, TALKING ABOUT THE
00:10:34DEADLY BIRD FLU THAT'S FORCED
THE STATE TO ORDER THE BANNING
00:10:37OF POULTRY SHOWS AT FAIRS AROUND
OHIO THIS YEAR.
00:10:41KASICH TALKED TO OUR FRIEND MARC
KOVAC, THE STATEHOUSE BUREAU
00:10:43CHIEF FOR THE DIX NEWS SERVICE
AND THE YOUNGSTOWN VINDICATOR
00:10:47FOR HIS OHIO CAPITAL BLOG.
>> ARE YOU HAPPY WITH WHAT THE
00:10:54SENATE HAS DONE?
>> I HAVE ONLY HAD A SHORT LOOK.
00:11:00THE SENATE PRESIDENT AND I
WORKED TOGETHER.
00:11:01THIS IS A LONG PROCESS.
THE LITTLE BIT I HAVE SEEN SO
00:11:08FAR, I WILL BE HAVING MORE
BRIEFINGS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE
00:11:11OF DAYS, THEY MOVED IN A
POSITIVE DIRECTION.
00:11:15IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE TAX CUT
IN THE STATE.
00:11:19WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE, AT THE END
OF THE DAY, THAT OUR BUDGET IS
00:11:24STRUCTURALLY BALANCED.
WE CANNOT PUT A BUDGET TOGETHER
00:11:26BASED ON HOPE AND PRAYERS HERE.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE -- PRAYERS
00:11:31ALWAYS HELP -- BUT WE HAVE TO
MAKE SURE THE NUMBERS ADD UP, SO
00:11:36WE WILL BE FOCUSED ON THAT.
>> THERE IS STILL NO SEVERANCE
00:11:40TAX THERE.
>> WE HAVE A LONG WAY BETWEEN
00:11:45NOW AND A FINAL CONCLUSION ON
THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE.
00:11:47KAREN: THE BUDGET NEEDS TO BE
SIGNED AND IN PLACE BY THE END
00:11:48OF JUNE, SO AFTER IT PASSES THE
SENATE THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE
00:11:49WILL BE ON A SHORT TIMELINE TO
GET IT TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK.
00:11:53INTERESTINGLY, BOTH THE HOUSE
SPEAKER AND THE SENATE PRESIDENT
00:11:56HAVE TAKEN TRIPS OUT OF STATE
DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS -
00:12:00PRESIDENT FABER WENT THIS WEEK
TO A REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE IN
00:12:03KEY WEST AFTER THE BUDGET WAS
UNVEILED.
00:12:08AND SPEAKER CLIFF ROSENBERGER
TRAVELED LAST WEEK TO NORMANDY,
00:12:10FRANCE, FOR THE 71'ST
ANNIVERSARY OF THE D-DAY
00:12:13INVASION, AFTER THE BUDGET WAS
VOTED OUT OF THE HOUSE.
00:12:17SPEAKING OF SUMMERTIME TRAVEL,
IT'S STARTING UP IN OHIO.
00:12:20AND ONE OF CENTRAL OHIO'S BIG
DRAWS HAS BEEN BUCKEYE LAKE.
00:12:23BUT MAYBE NOT THIS YEAR.
THE LAKE IS BEING KEPT AT ITS 3
00:12:27FOOT WINTER LEVEL WHILE THE
STATE STARTS WORKING ON THE
00:12:30CRUMBLING EARTHEN DAM THAT THE
ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS
00:12:33DETERMINED IS IN DANGER OF
CATASTROPHIC FAILURE.
00:12:36AND THE CONDITION OF THIS DAM
HAS PEOPLE AROUND OHIO ASKING
00:12:41ABOUT THE STATE OF OTHER DAMS.
THE STATE WATCHES AND REGULATES
00:12:44DAMS THROUGH THE OHIO DEPARTMENT
OF NATURAL RESOURCES DAM SAFETY
00:12:47PROGRAM IN ITS SOIL AND WATER
DIVISION.
00:12:49HERE TO TALK ABOUT BUCKEYE LAKE
AND BEYOND IS THE DIRECTOR OF
00:12:52THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL
RESOURCES JAMES ZEHRINGER.
00:12:58FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN OUT
TO BUCKEYE LAKE THIS YEAR OR WHO
00:13:01HAVE NEVER BEEN, MAYBE WE CAN
SET UP A STORY ABOUT WHAT'S
00:13:05HAPPENING NOW OUT THERE WITH
REGARDS TO THE PROBLEM WITH THE
00:13:08DAM, LOW WATER LEVELS, AND WHAT
PEOPLE WILL SEE WHEN THEY GO OUT
00:13:11THERE.
JAMES: BUCKEYE LAKE IS ABOUT A
00:13:153000-ACRE LAKE THAT IS ONE OF
OUR GREATEST STATE PARKS.
00:13:19WE OWN THE LAKE.
WE TRY TO MANAGE THE LAKE.
00:13:22WE HAVE A CRANBERRY BOG ON THE
LAKE.
00:13:24BOAT DOCKS THAT WE RENT AND
LEASE.
00:13:27IT IS ALSO A 4.1-MILD EARTHEN
DAM.
00:13:30THIS DAM WAS BUILT IN THE 1830'S
AS PART OF THE ERIE CANAL.
00:13:40NONE OF IT IS BUILT TO DAM
SAFETY STANDARDS WE HAVE TODAY.
00:13:46IN THE LATE 1800S, FOR SOME
REASON, THE STATE SOLD OFF THE
00:13:49BACK HALF OF THE DAM AND THERE
WERE FISHERMEN THAT WOULD BUILD
00:13:55FISHING HUTS AND SET THEM ON THE
DAM, AND THAT WOULD'VE BEEN OK
00:13:58AT THE TIME.
OVER THE LAST 50, 70 YEARS, A
00:14:05LOT OF EXCAVATING WENT ON AND
BASINS WERE DUG, AND THE
00:14:10DETERIORATION OF THE DAM
INCREASED.
00:14:11SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS
BEEN ONGOING FOR MAYBE 30, 40
00:14:16YEARS, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
THIS PAST YEAR, THE ARMY CORPS
00:14:20DID AN ASSESSMENT.
WE WERE SOMEWHAT SURPRISED BY
00:14:27THEIR ASSESSMENT ON HOW POOR THE
DAM WAS.
00:14:29WE KNEW IT WAS POOR, BUT THEY
REALLY OPENED OUR EYES.
00:14:31WE TOOK IMMEDIATE ACTION, WHICH
WAS NOT RAISE THE LEVEL BACK UP
00:14:35TO SUMMER POOL.
WHEN IT IS THE SUMMER POOL, YOU
00:14:41SEE SEEPAGE.
IF THERE IS A BIG, ENORMOUS
00:14:47STORM, OR RAINS, THERE COULD BE
OVERTOPPING.
00:14:49THESE ARE SERIOUS CONDITIONS.
THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE OF THE
00:14:55BUCKEYE LAKE VILLAGE, THE 3000
PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE
00:14:57INUNDATION ZONE, WAS OUR FIRST
PRIORITY.
00:14:58WE ARE TAKING STEPS TO REMEDY
THAT.
00:15:00KAREN: THE WATER LEVEL IS AT
ABOUT THREE FEET, IS THAT RIGHT?
00:15:04JAMES: YES, MAYBE A LITTLE LESS.
KAREN: YOU ALSO HAVE SOME
00:15:10CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS GOING ON.
YOU STARTED THIS RIGHT AWAY
00:15:15AFTER THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS
REPORTED THE PROBLEM, STARTED
00:15:18PUTTING UP CHANGES AND BLOCKING
ACCESS.
00:15:19JAMES: THAT'S RIGHT.
WHEN THE WATER LEVEL IS AT THIS
00:15:24POOL, IT IS A LITTLE MORE
DANGEROUS OUT THERE.
00:15:26THERE ARE STOPS AND SHALLOW
WATER, OBVIOUSLY.
00:15:29WE STEPPED UP OUR DREDGING
IMMEDIATELY.
00:15:31WE HAVE TWO WORKING OUT THERE
ALL THE TIME AND WE ARE REALLY
00:15:36TRYING TO GET THE CHANNELS OPEN
TO SOME BUSINESSES BECAUSE WE
00:15:40UNDERSTAND IS WILL BE A
HARDSHIP.
00:15:41WE HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THIS
DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
00:15:45THE GOVERNOR HAS GIVEN ME THE
CHARGE TO GET THIS DONE AT THE
00:15:50SPEED OF PRIVATE SECTOR, NOT
GOVERNMENT.
00:15:53WE TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY.
CUT NO CORNERS, MAKE SURE THINGS
00:15:57FOLLOW OUR DAM SAFETY STANDARDS.
KAREN: THERE WAS A STUDY THAT
00:16:01INCLUDED THAT KEEPING THE LAKE
SHALLOW WHILE THE DAM IS BEING
00:16:03REPLACED WOULD COST 1100 JOBS --
COULD RISK 1100 JOBS AND 160
00:16:11MILLION DOLLARS IN ECONOMIC
LOSSES OVER FIVE YEARS.
00:16:13THEY ARE TRYING TO PERSUADE THAT
THE WATER SHOULD BE LATE --
00:16:18RAISED WHILE YOU ARE DOING THE
WORK.
00:16:19WHY NOT RAISE IT A LITTLE BIT,
DOES IT HAVE TO BE WHERE IT IS?
00:16:23JAMES: IT HAS TO BE WHERE IT IS
AND THAT WILL NOT CHANGE.
00:16:29WE WILL WORK AS QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE TO DO SOME RISK
00:16:31REDUCTION MEASURES, WHERE WE CAN
PUT SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD, BUT
00:16:35RIGHT NOW THAT LEVEL HAS TO STAY
THERE UNTIL WE CAN PROVE THERE
00:16:37WILL BE NO SEEPAGE OR
DETERIORATION, OR AFFECT THE
00:16:43HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THOSE
DOWNSTREAM.
00:16:44WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT.
THAT STUDY WAS ALSO SOBERING,
00:16:49BUT THAT WAS BASED ON FIVE
YEARS.
00:16:50WE HOPE TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO
CUT THAT BACK AND IT WAS BASED
00:16:52ON, I THINK, THREE COUNTIES.
IT WAS A VERY SERIOUS STUDY AND
00:16:58WE UNDERSTAND, SAVING LIVES IS
OUR TOP PRIORITY.
00:17:03KAREN: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 4500
DAMS IN OHIO.
00:17:06MANY ARE IN DISREPAIR, ALTHOUGH
MAYBE NOT IN THE STATE OF THE
00:17:11BUCKEYE LAKE IS.
THE PROBLEMS THERE, THE QUESTION
00:17:14ABOUT CRUMBLING INFRASTRUCTURE
IN GENERAL HAS BROUGHT UP THE
00:17:19QUESTION OF HOW SAFE OHIO DAMS
ARE.
00:17:20SOME CRITICS SAY THAT THEY ARE
NOT SAFE.
00:17:221500 EARTHEN DANCE, A LOT OF
THEM ARE NOT SAFE.
00:17:26JAMES: YOU ARE RIGHT.
NONE OF THEM IN THE SHAPE OF
00:17:33BUCKEYE LAKE, THOUGH.
LET'S GET THAT STRAIGHT.
00:17:34A LOT OF THEM THE STATE OF OHIO
OWNS.
00:17:36WE ARE IN A UNIQUE POSITION
BECAUSE WE ARE THE OWNERS AND
00:17:42REGULATORS OF A LOT OF OUR DAMS.
SINCE WE HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE
00:17:452011, WE HAVE LOOKED AT OUR
WHOLE PROGRAM.
00:17:50WHAT USED TO TAKE SIX YEARS TO
FIX A DAM, WE ARE NOW LOOKING AT
00:17:53DOING THAT IN HALF THE TIME.
WE HAVE HIRED NEW PROJECT
00:17:57MANAGERS TO MAKE SURE PROJECTS
GET DONE SYSTEMATICALLY ON TIME.
00:17:58WE HAVE CHANGED OUR ENGINEERS,
WE HAVE A NEW HEAD ENGINEER THAT
00:18:05OVERSEES THESE PROJECTS.
THEN WE BROUGHT IN OUR PARKS,
00:18:09OUR WILDLIFE, FOR STREET
DIVISIONS, THAT ALL HAVE DAMS,
00:18:13GOT THEM ON THE SAME PAGE, AND
WE ARE FOLLOWING THE SAME
00:18:17UNIFORM PROTOCOL ON HOW TO
INSPECT AND HOW TO FIX AND
00:18:19REPAIR.
SO WE HAVE CHANGED THIS
00:18:23IMMENSELY.
WHEN WE GOT HERE, WE HAD $3
00:18:27MILLION TO WORK ON DAMS.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 85.
00:18:31WE HAVE ALREADY LOOKED AT OUR
NINE WORST DAMS, FOUR OF THEM
00:18:36ARE COMPLETED, ONE OF THEM IS
JUST ABOUT DONE, AND THE OTHER
00:18:39FOUR ARE IN THE DESIGN PHASE.
WE ARE LOOKING THROUGHOUT THE
00:18:43STATE OF OHIO AND BEING REALLY
AGGRESSIVE ON OUR INSPECTION AND
00:18:46REPAIRS.
KAREN: PRIORITY DAMS THAT YOU
00:18:50HAVE.
HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE ONCE THEY
00:18:52ARE DONE AND FIXED, THAT A STAY
IN THAT STATE AND NOT FALL INTO
00:18:57A STATE OF DISREPAIR WHERE THEY
ARE A DANGER TO PEOPLE?
00:18:58JAMES: THAT IS SO IMPORTANT AND
THAT IS WHERE OUR INSPECTORS ARE
00:19:04TRAINED TO INSPECT THESE DAMS.
EACH ONE IS INSPECTED EVERY FIVE
00:19:07YEARS.
WE HAVE OUR PARKS FOLKS TRAINED
00:19:10TO WALK A DANCE.
LAKE WHITE DAM IS A GOOD EXAMPLE
00:19:15OF ONE OF OUR PARK EMPLOYEES WHO
WAS TRAINED TO WALK THE DAN AND
00:19:17SAW SEEPAGE AND THEY THOUGHT
THAT WAS UNUSUAL AND CALLED US.
00:19:23SURE ENOUGH, IT WAS A SERIOUS
PROBLEM, AND THAT IS ONE OF OUR
00:19:26PRIORITY DAMS NOW.
KAREN: THERE HAS BEEN SOME
00:19:31CRITICISM THAT THERE IS LAX
ENFORCEMENT AND WHENEVER THERE
00:19:34IS A CONFLICT BETWEEN RESIDENTS
IN THE COMMUNITY AND DAN SAFETY,
00:19:36ODNR ALLOWS UNSAFE DAMS TO SAY
UNSAFE LONGER THAN NECESSARY.
00:19:43JAMES: IT COULD'VE BEEN THAT WAY
IN THE PAST BUT I CAN TELL YOU
00:19:48IT IS NOT NOW.
YOU SEE THE CHALLENGES WITH
00:19:50BUCKEYE LAKE.
THERE IS A LOT OF PUSHBACK
00:19:54BECAUSE IT WILL INCONVENIENCE
SOME FOLKS, ESPECIALLY THOSE
00:19:57THAT LIVE ON THE DAM, FOR A FEW
YEARS.
00:20:00WE THINK BUCKEYE LAKE CAN BE A
CROWN JEWEL IN A FEW YEARS.
00:20:04WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO
GETTING THAT DONE.
00:20:06KAREN: THE NONPRIORITY DAM DANCE
THAT YOU REFERENCED, HOW DID YOU
00:20:11IDENTIFY THEM AS PRIORITIES, IS
IT BECAUSE THE PEOPLE LIVING
00:20:17THERE, THEY WERE IN DANGER
SITUATIONS?
00:20:18JAMES: BOTH OF WHAT YOU
MENTIONED.
00:20:21THESE ARE CLASS ONE DAMS.
IF IT BROKE OR BREACHED, IT
00:20:27WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO LIVES,
PROPERTY VALUE, HOMES.
00:20:29EACH DAM IS CLASSIFIED, 1, 2, 3.
2, YOU TAKE THE LIVES OUT OF IT
00:20:39OTHER THERE COULD BE DAMAGED.
MORE INTERNAL FLOODING.
00:20:40CLASS 1, LIKE BUCKEYE LAKE, 3000
PEOPLE IN THE INUNDATION ZONE.
00:20:47IF THE LAKE WAS ON FULL POOL,
THERE WOULD NOT BE MUCH TIME TO
00:20:52REACT AND THE INUNDATION ZONE
INCLUDES INTERSTATE 70, AND
00:20:58THERE ARE 43,000 CARS A DAY.
IT SHUT DOWN IN THE 1990'S
00:21:01BECAUSE OF FLOODING, SO THIS
WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD
00:21:05IMPACT A LOT OF PEOPLE.
KAREN: YOU MENTIONED OHIO HAS
00:21:09THE STATE OWNED AND, IT WOULD
TAKE $300 MILLION TO FIX THOSE
00:21:12DAMS, 85 MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT
NOW, SO YOU ARE NOT EVEN A THIRD
00:21:17OF THE WAY TO FIXING THOSE.
WHAT ABOUT THOSE THAT ARE NOT
00:21:20STATE OWNED ALSO NEED REPAIR?
JAMES: THAT IS PART OF THE
00:21:24RESPONSIBILITY OF OWNING A DAM
AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU
00:21:28HAVE GOOD HOMEOWNERS
ASSOCIATIONS, OR THE DAMS BE
00:21:34BILLED CORRECTLY WITH SAFETY
STANDING BEFORE YOU TAKE THAT
00:21:35CONSIDERATION.
THAT IS GREAT POINT.
00:21:37WE WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OUR
DAMS, BUT THEY ALL NEED
00:21:42IMPROVEMENT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING
THAT WE CAN IMPROVE A CERTAIN
00:21:47PORTION OF IT AND CONTINUE ON
UNTIL WE HAVE TO REPLACE THE
00:21:50WHOLE THING.
KAREN: CAN A STATE GO IN AND GO
00:21:55AFTER THESE PRIVATE OWNERS TO
MAKE SURE THEY ARE FOLLOWING
00:21:56SAFETY RULES AND UPGRADING AND
KEEPING THEIR DAMS SAFE?
00:21:58JAMES: ABSOLUTELY, AND WE DO
THAT.
00:22:03THERE IS ONE PRIVATE DAM THAT WE
HAVE LOWERED.
00:22:07THEY DO NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO
FIX IT, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM
00:22:13FIX IT BEFORE WE ALLOW THE LEVEL
TO GO BACK UP.
00:22:14IT IS NOT AN EASY JOB WE HAVE TO
DO.
00:22:15WE DON'T WANT TO GO AROUND AND
DRAIN OR LOWER POND THAT HAVE
00:22:20BRUSH OR TREES ON IT THAT WILL
NOT AFFECT -- WE ARE NOT ABOUT
00:22:23BEING TOO HEAVY-HANDED.
WE WANT TO HAVE COMMON SENSE AND
00:22:27WORK WITH YOU TO REMEDY THE
SITUATION.
00:22:28KAREN: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT
SOMETHING HAPPENING AT GRAMBLING
00:22:33STATE AREAS.
A RESORT COMMUNITY IS BEING
00:22:35BUILT.
RESIDENTIAL, HOTEL, SOME OTHER
00:22:39THINGS ARE ALREADY THERE.
ISN'T THIS SETTING UP FOR A
00:22:43FUTURE BUCKEYE LAKE KIND OF
CRISIS?
00:22:44JAMES: I LIVE THERE, SO I KNOW
WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
00:22:48THERE ARE CONCEPTUAL IDEAS OF A
RESORT COMMUNITY BEING BUILT
00:22:53THERE.
THERE WERE SOME THINGS DONE
00:22:55PRIOR TO WHEN WE WERE THERE.
RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO
00:22:58CONSTRUCTION GOING ON ON THE DAM
OR INTO THE DAM ITSELF.
00:23:02SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ADD DIRT
TO THE BACK OF THE DAM.
00:23:06WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AND EXAMINE
IT CAREFULLY.
00:23:09THE DAM AT GRAND LAKE ST. MARY'S
IS NOT COMPARABLE TO BUCKEYE
00:23:16LAKE.
BUT IT IS AN EARTHEN DAM.
00:23:17THERE IS A ROAD ON TOP OF IT, A
BRICK WALL THAT IS VERY STABLE,
00:23:22GETS INSPECTED VERY FREQUENTLY.
KAREN: THIS BRINGS A LOT INTO
00:23:27PLAY, TOURISM, ENVIRONMENTAL
CONCERNS, RESIDENTS, A LOT OF
00:23:31THINGS AT PLAY AND YOU HAVE TO
BALANCE IT OUT WHILE KEEPING
00:23:33PEOPLE SAFE AND TRYING TO KEEP
PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
00:23:35JAMES: AND EVERYONE WANTS TO BE
CLOSE TO THE WATER.
00:23:40KAREN: THERE MAY BE SOME GOOD
NEWS HERE FOR A PLACE OUT OF
00:23:46BUCKEYE LAKE THAT WE VISITED A
COUPLE YEARS AGO, CRANBERRY BOG.
00:23:49KEEPING THE WATER LOW IS HELPING
THAT ENVIRONMENT, WHICH WAS
00:23:55REALLY THREATENED AND ENDANGERED
OF DISAPPEARING ALTOGETHER.
00:23:56JAMES: IF THERE IS ONE GOOD
THING, CRANBERRY BOGS WILL
00:24:02SURVIVE BETTER IN LOWER WATER
THAN HIGHER WATER.
00:24:03OUR BIOLOGISTS AND BOTANISTS
TELL US THAT THE CRANBERRY BOG
00:24:09IS DOING WELL, NOT BREAKING
APART.
00:24:10IT HAS GOTTEN CONSIDERABLY
SMALLER OVER THE YEARS.
00:24:12THIS IS HELPING TO STABILIZE
THAT.
00:24:16HOPEFULLY, THIS CLOSE TO THE
SURFACE OF THE LAKE, IT CAN
00:24:22NURSE ITSELF AND MAYBE GET
STRONGER.
00:24:23I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK THEY ARE SLOWING DOWN
00:24:29THE TOURS TO IT RIGHT NOW, BUT
MAYBE SOMEDAY WITH AIR BOATS OR
00:24:34PADDLE BOATS, CANOES, THEY CAN
REVISIT.
00:24:35KAREN: THE APPROXIMATE DATE FOR
GETTING BUCKEYE LAKE BACK UP TO
00:24:39WHAT THEY HAVE ENJOYED FOR THE
LAST 100-SOME YEARS, WHEN WITH
00:24:44THAT THE -- WOULD THAT BE?
JAMES: WE ARE TELLING PEOPLE
00:24:52THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR PROJECT.
WE HOPE TO NOT CONSIDERABLE TIME
00:24:55OFF OF THAT.
JUST GETTING THE DESIGN ENGINEER
00:24:58ON BOARD, WHICH WE HAVE DONE,
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF
00:25:00FINALIZING, WE HAVE NOT
THREE-MONTH MONTHS OFF OF THAT.
00:25:05SO WE KEEP KNOCKING TIME OFF AND
THAT IS THE GOAL TO GET IT DONE
00:25:10AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
KAREN: IS THIS SOMETHING THAT
00:25:12CAN ONLY BE DONE IN THE SUMMER
MONTHS?
00:25:13JAMES: NO, WE HOPE THIS CAN BE
DONE YEAR-ROUND.
00:25:15IF IT IS A HARD FREEZE, IT WILL
BE DIFFICULT, BUT YOU CAN POUR
00:25:20CEMENT, YOU CAN DO THINGS LIKE
THAT ALMOST YEAR-ROUND.
00:25:23ONCE WE GET THE DESIGN ENGINEER
ON BOARD, WE WILL BE ABLE TO GO
00:25:28PUBLIC AND LET YOU KNOW WITH THE
TIMEFRAME WILL BE.
00:25:32KAREN: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
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