| 00:00:00 | >> SUPPORT COMES FROM THE LAW
OFFICES OF LLP, HELPING |
| 00:00:11 | BUSINESSES AND INDIVIDUALS SOLVE
COMPLEX LEGAL PROBLEMS IN OHIO, |
| 00:00:14 | ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND THE
WORLD. |
| 00:00:17 | AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING |
| 00:00:22 | 131,000 TEACHERS, FOR
PROFESSIONALS, AND HIGHER |
| 00:00:26 | EDUCATION FACULTY, WHO ARE
WORKING FOR GREAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS |
| 00:00:30 | FOR EVERY CHILD.
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FROM THE |
| 00:00:33 | STATE OF OHIO IS MADE POSSIBLE
BY ETCH OF OHIO. |
| 00:00:37 | >CAPTIONED BY THE
NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE |
| 00:00:42 | --WWW.NCICAP.ORG--
>> OHIO WAS THE BIGGEST PRIZE |
| 00:00:46 | ON SUPER TUESDAY, AND THE ONE
FOR WHICH THE CANDIDATES FOUGHT |
| 00:00:48 | HARDEST.
MORE RESULTS ON DOWN THE TICKET, |
| 00:00:49 | INCLUDING ANALYSIS FROM THE
PARTY CHAIRMEN AND A PANEL OF |
| 00:00:51 | REPORTERS.
AND ONE EXPERT SAYS WE'VE |
| 00:00:53 | ALREADY SEEN THE BIG BALLOT
BATTLES BETWEEN THE |
| 00:00:55 | CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATES, AND IN
MOST DISTRICTS IF NOT ALL THE |
| 00:00:56 | FALL VOTE IS A FORMALITY.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF |
| 00:00:58 | OHIO".
SUPER TUESDAY IS OVER, AND IT |
| 00:01:05 | WAS SUPER CLOSE IN OHIO.
IN A RACE THAT LOGGED LOW VOTER |
| 00:01:07 | TURNOUT, MITT ROMNEY SQUEAKED
OUT A WIN OVER CHALLENGER RICK |
| 00:01:08 | SANTORUM IN THE GOP PRESIDENTIAL
NOMINATION IN OHIO, |
| 00:01:10 | LESS THAN A POINT SEPARATE
ROMNEY FROM SANTORUM, WHO WAS |
| 00:01:16 | LEADING IN POLLS FOR SEVERAL
WEEKS HEADING INTO TUESDAY'S |
| 00:01:20 | VOTE.
ROMNEY'S NARROW OHIO VICTORY |
| 00:01:22 | ALLOWS HIM TO MOVE ON WITH SUPER
TUESDAY'S KEY PRIZE, WHILE |
| 00:01:25 | LEAVING BEHIND QUESTIONS ABOUT
HIS STRENGTH IN THE CRUCIAL |
| 00:01:27 | STATE FOR NOVEMBER.
ROMNEY WATCHED THE RETURNS FROM |
| 00:01:32 | ANOTHER SUPER TUESDAY STATE, HIS
HOME STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS. |
| 00:01:33 | SANTORUM WAS IN OHIO -- IN
STEUBENVILLE, IN THE SAME |
| 00:01:37 | BUILDING AS GOV.
JOHN KASICH'S STATE OF THE |
| 00:01:39 | STATE SPEECH LAST MONTH.
ROMNEY SHOWED WELL IN THE |
| 00:01:43 | STATE'S THREE MAJOR METRO
AREAS, AND EXIT POLLS SHOWED |
| 00:01:46 | VOTERS WHO SAID THEY WERE
CONCERNED ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND |
| 00:01:48 | ELECTABILITY AGAINST PRESIDENT
BARACK OBAMA PICKED ROMNEY. |
| 00:01:51 | BUT HE OUTSPENT SANTORUM BY
ABOUT 4-TO-1 TO GET SUCH A |
| 00:01:56 | SMALL MARGIN OF VICTORY.
SANTORUM WON IN RURAL PARTS OF |
| 00:02:01 | THE STATE, AND SUPPORTERS SAY
THAT SHOWS HE CAN CONNECT |
| 00:02:03 | BETTER WITH BLUE-COLLAR WORKERS
AND SWING VOTERS THE GOP |
| 00:02:06 | NOMINEE WILL NEED FOR ELECTION.
BUT SOME EXIT POLLS WERE |
| 00:02:09 | SHOWING ROMNEY DID BETTER WITH
LOWER-INCOME VOTERS AND THOSE |
| 00:02:12 | WHO DIDN'T GO TO COLLEGE, WHICH
ARE VOTERS THAT IT WAS THOUGHT |
| 00:02:15 | WOULD LEAN TOWARD SANTORUM.
WOMEN WHO WORK OUTSIDE THE HOME |
| 00:02:21 | FAVORED ROMNEY, WHILE WOMEN WHO
DON'T VOTED FOR SANTORUM. |
| 00:02:23 | THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF
FESTIVITIES ON ELECTION NIGHT, |
| 00:02:27 | WITH BOTH ROMNEY AND SANTORUM
BEING OUTSIDE THE STATE CAPITOL. |
| 00:02:29 | NEWT GINGRICH WAS IN HIS HOME
STATE OF GEORGIA THE ONLY |
| 00:02:31 | STATE HE WON ON SUPER TUESDAY --
AND RON PAUL, WHO HAD NOT |
| 00:02:35 | CAMPAIGNED IN OHIO, WAS IN
IDAHO. |
| 00:02:36 | THE OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY CHAIR
SAID THAT NO ONE SHOULD READ |
| 00:02:45 | INTO THIS CLOSE RACE, BUT THERE
IS A SPLIT AMONGST GOP VOTERS. |
| 00:02:49 | >> WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS CLOSE
TO 1 MILLION REPUBLICANS COMING |
| 00:02:53 | OUT TO VOICE THEIR CHOICE IN THE
PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY IN OHIO. |
| 00:02:57 | FROM WHAT WE SEE ON THE STREET,
ANECDOTALLY, AND OTHER PARTY |
| 00:03:04 | OFFENSE, WE SEE AN ENERGIZED
REPUBLICAN BASE THAT IS, |
| 00:03:09 | REGARDLESS OF THE NOMINEE,
FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE THAT OHIO |
| 00:03:13 | TURNS OUT ON BARACK OBAMA COME
NOVEMBER. |
| 00:03:16 | >> HE SAYS THAT THE CLOSENESS OF
THE RACE DOES NOT MATTER THAT |
| 00:03:20 | MUCH IN THE LONG RUN.
>> YOU WANT TO HAVE THE BRAGGING |
| 00:03:23 | RIGHTS OF CARRYING THE BUCKEYE
STATE, IT IS A SOME DOUBT -- |
| 00:03:27 | SYMBOLIC VICTORY.
THE REAL INTERESTING THAT COMES |
| 00:03:32 | INTO HOW YOU DO THE DISTRIBUTION
OF THE DELEGATES. |
| 00:03:36 | THERE ARE 48 THAT ARE AWARDED BY
CONFESSIONAL -- CONGRESSIONAL |
| 00:03:41 | DISTRICT.
WINNER-TAKE-ALL. |
| 00:03:42 | ANOTHER 14 ARE AWARDED BASED ON
OVERALL VOTE TOTAL AND THERE |
| 00:03:46 | WILL NOT BE AN IDEA ON HOW THEY
WILL BE DISTRIBUTED UNTIL AFTER |
| 00:03:50 | THE RESULTS AND WE FIGURE OUT
WHO WON AND WHAT THE FINAL VOTE |
| 00:03:54 | COUNT WAS.
>> AT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, |
| 00:03:57 | CHRIS REDFERN SAYS THAT JUST
BECAUSE IT MEANT ROMNEY DID WELL |
| 00:04:01 | WITH URBAN VOTERS IN THIS
PRIMARY DOES NOT MEAN HE WILL |
| 00:04:05 | REPEAT THAT PERFORMANCE IN THE
FALL. |
| 00:04:07 | >> YOU HAVE PLACES LIKE TEHHEM
GME PLANT. |
| 00:04:15 | IF YOU ARE SOMEONE LIKE MITT
ROMNEY, WHO THOUGHT THAT DETROIT |
| 00:04:21 | SHOULD HAVE GONE BANKRUPT, THAT
IS A TOUGH MESSAGE TO SELL. |
| 00:04:25 | IT MAY NOT END SOONER RATHER
THAN LATER, I SEE THIS GOP FIGHT |
| 00:04:30 | GOING INTO LATE MAY.
>> IF IT WERE UP TO HIM, READ |
| 00:04:35 | FROM WOULD NOT PICK EITHER.
>> I BELIEVE THAT NEWT GINGRICH |
| 00:04:41 | COULD SURVIVE THIS PRIMARY
CYCLE. |
| 00:04:44 | I HAVE -- I CAN BE A BIT FLIP,
HONESTLY, SOMETHING I AM KNOWN |
| 00:04:49 | FOR BEING, BUT OUR GREATEST
STRENGTH IS IN BARACK OBAMA AND |
| 00:04:56 | JOE BIDEN.
IF YOU LAY THE FACTS ON THE |
| 00:04:58 | TABLE AND LOOK AT THE ISSUES
THAT ARE MOST RELEVANT, BARACK |
| 00:05:02 | OBAMA AND JOE BIDEN ARE ON THE
RIGHT SIDE OF THOSE ISSUES. |
| 00:05:05 | >> REDFERN, THE FORMER OHIO
HOUSE MINORITY LEADER WAS |
| 00:05:10 | UNOPPOSED FOR THE 89TH HOUSE
DISTRICT. |
| 00:05:13 | BY THE WAY, REDFERN, WHO'S THE
FORMER OHIO HOUSE MINORITY |
| 00:05:14 | LEADER, WAS UNOPPOSED IN THE
DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY FOR THE 89TH |
| 00:05:16 | HOUSE DISTRICT, AND HE'S
EXPECTED TO WIN THIS FALL. |
| 00:05:17 | BUT HE SAYS HE'LL BE KEEPING HIS
JOB AS PARTY CHAIRMAN NO MATTER |
| 00:05:20 | WHAT.
THE OTHER BIG RACE ON THIS |
| 00:05:22 | MARCH BALLOT WAS THE FIVE WAY
CONTEST FOR THE GOP NOMINATION |
| 00:05:23 | FOR US SENATE.
AND STATE TREASURER JOSH MANDEL |
| 00:05:26 | EASILY WON THAT RACE, JUST A
WEEK AFTER MAKING THE OFFICIAL |
| 00:05:28 | ANNOUNCEMENT THAT HE WAS
RUNNING AT THE AKRON PRESS CLUB. |
| 00:05:29 | BUT MANDEL HAD BEEN FUNDRAISING
FOR MONTHS BEFORE THAT. |
| 00:05:33 | MANDEL NOW WILL TAKE ON
INCUMBENT DEMOCRATIC SENATOR |
| 00:05:38 | SHERROD BROWN IN WHAT
IT WAS A BIG NIGHT FOR SCHOOL |
| 00:05:42 | ISSUES NEARLY THREE QUARTERS
OF THOSE ON THE PRIMARY BALLOT |
| 00:05:45 | PASSED - A TOTAL OF 81OUT OF
110. |
| 00:05:47 | THE OHIO SCHOOL BOARDS
ASSOCIATION SAYS IT WAS EVEN |
| 00:05:52 | BETTER FOR RENEWAL LEVIES 51
OF 53 OF THEM PASSED, AND 30 OF |
| 00:05:54 | 57 NEW LEVIES WERE APPROVED.
THE SCHOOLS GROUP ATTRIBUTES |
| 00:06:00 | THE HIGH SUCCESS RATE TO SCHOOL
ADMINISTRATORS DEMONSTRATING |
| 00:06:05 | THAT THEY HAD MADE CONCESSIONS
AND WERE TRYING TO WORK UNDER |
| 00:06:07 | TOUGH BUDGET CONSTRAINTS.
AND LIBRARIES FARED WELL ON |
| 00:06:10 | PRIMARY ELECTION NIGHT TOO.
VOTERS APPROVED 78 PERCENT OF |
| 00:06:13 | THOSE MONEY ISSUES STATEWIDE.
DOUG EVANS IS THE EXECUTIVE |
| 00:06:17 | DIRECTOR OF THE OHIO LIBRARY
COUNCIL, AND HE SAYS FOR MANY |
| 00:06:19 | OF THESE LIBRARIES, THIS FUNDING
IS CRUCIAL. |
| 00:06:21 | >> "IF YOU LOOK BACK TO IN THE
EARLY 2000S, WE HAD ABOUT 30% |
| 00:06:27 | OF THE LIBRARIES AROUND THE
STATE HAD LOCAL LEVIES. |
| 00:06:30 | THAT NOW HAS INCREASED TO ABOUT
68% AS A RESULT OF THE DECLINE |
| 00:06:42 | IN THE STATE'S FUNDING OF THE
PUBLIC LIBRARIES. |
| 00:06:44 | THAT HAS DECREASED AS MUCH AS
24% IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. |
| 00:06:48 | WE'RE LOOKING AT A DECREASE OF
ANOTHER 5% AS A RESULT OF THE |
| 00:06:50 | CHANGE IN LIBRARY FUNDING AS A
RESULT OF THE STATE'S ECONOMIC |
| 00:06:52 | SITUATION."
>> THERE ARE 251 PUBLIC LIBRARY |
| 00:07:01 | SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
171 HAVE LOCAL TAX SUPPORT. |
| 00:07:02 | HERE TO FURTHER ANALYZE THE
RESULTS OF OHIO'S SUPER TUESDAY |
| 00:07:06 | VOTE ARE THE REPORTERS FROM THE
STATEHOUSE NEWS BUREAU, BILL |
| 00:07:09 | COHEN AND JO INGLES.
SO, IT SEEMED LIKE KIND OF A |
| 00:07:16 | WEIRD ELECTION THAT HAPPENED
REALLY FAST. |
| 00:07:18 | THE CANDIDATES WERE HERE QUICK,
THAN THEY WERE GONE. |
| 00:07:21 | NO ONE WAS HERE ON ELECTION
NIGHT. |
| 00:07:24 | AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO FELT LIKE
IT WAS A STRANGE PRIMARY? |
| 00:07:27 | >> ESPECIALLY ON ELECTION NIGHT,
YOU HAD THE SATELLITE TRUCKS |
| 00:07:31 | HERE, BUT THE MAJOR CANDIDATES
WERE NOT HERE. |
| 00:07:35 | RICK SANTORUM WAS IN
STEUBENVILLE. |
| 00:07:38 | MITT ROMNEY WAS IN
MASSACHUSETTS. |
| 00:07:40 | THERE WERE NO BIG PARTIES IN
HOTEL BALLROOMS, LIKE USUAL, TO |
| 00:07:45 | GENERATE THAT KIND OF AT THE
SCENE EXCITEMENT. |
| 00:07:48 | >> WHEN WE WERE ALL DOING LIVE
SHOTS AND TALKING TO PEOPLE |
| 00:07:52 | AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT NIGHT,
THE QUESTION WAS ALWAYS -- " WAS |
| 00:07:56 | THE FEELING?
BUT THERE WAS NOTHING HAPPENING. |
| 00:07:59 | I WANT TO ASK YOU BOTH IF YOU
WERE SURPRISED AT THE WAY THE |
| 00:08:04 | POLLS HAD BEEN GOING AND THE WAY
THINGS HAPPENED IN THE EARLY |
| 00:08:08 | EVENING, WERE YOU SURPRISED THAT
MITT ROMNEY PULLED IT OUT? |
| 00:08:11 | >> I WAS NOT SURPRISED.
THE CARDS WERE STACKED AGAINST |
| 00:08:16 | RICK SANTORUM.
YOU COULD NOT COLLECT DELEGATES |
| 00:08:19 | IN 3 CONTEST -- CONGRESSIONAL
DISTRICTS? |
| 00:08:22 | THAT WAS HUGE.
MITT ROMNEY, THE WAY THAT HE |
| 00:08:25 | TALKED ABOUT SWOOPING IN, HE
REALLY BLEW OUT EVERYONE ELSE |
| 00:08:29 | FROM THE COMPETITION WITH THOSE
ADVERTISEMENTS. |
| 00:08:33 | HIS ORGANIZATION WAS GREAT.
HE HAD A LOT OF ON THE GROUND |
| 00:08:37 | ORGANIZATIONS.
>> HE RENTED A HOUSE HERE. |
| 00:08:39 | >> WHICH MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE
WHEN YOU HAVE ORGANIZATION. |
| 00:08:44 | I WAS NOT SURPRISED AT ALL.
I WAS MORE SURPRISED THAT RICK |
| 00:08:47 | SANTORUM DID NOT WIN.
>> THE RACE WAS BASICALLY TO |
| 00:08:51 | CLOSE TO CALL UNTIL MIDNIGHT,
WHEN IT WAS FINALLY CLEAR THAT |
| 00:08:56 | MITT ROMNEY WAS MOVING AHEAD,
BUT LIKE 1%. |
| 00:08:59 | >> WILL THAT HURT HIM IN THE
FALL? |
| 00:09:02 | HE DID NOT SEEM TO REACH THOSE
RURAL VOTERS, MANY OF WHOM ARE |
| 00:09:07 | CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS.
I AM MAKING AN ASSUMPTION, BUT |
| 00:09:11 | WILL THAT HURT IN THE FALL WHEN
HE IS UP AGAINST BARACK OBAMA? |
| 00:09:15 | >> THAT IS JUST ONE OF THE
SPLITS. |
| 00:09:17 | URBAN AREAS GOING FOR MITT
ROMNEY, RURAL AREAS GOING FOR |
| 00:09:23 | SANTORUM, THEN THE SPLIT ON
RELIGIOUS ISSUES AND THE FACT |
| 00:09:26 | THAT SANTORUM LIKES TO TALK MORE
ABOUT THE MORAL AND RELIGIOUS |
| 00:09:30 | ISSUES.
I THINK THAT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM |
| 00:09:33 | THAT MITT ROMNEY HAS IS YOU HAVE
GOT ALL OF THESE BAD THINGS |
| 00:09:37 | BEING SAID ABOUT HIM RIGHT NOW
ON THE RECORD FROM FELLOW |
| 00:09:40 | REPUBLICANS.
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HERE WHO |
| 00:09:44 | SWITCHED FROM ROMNEY TO
SANTORUM, HE IS STILL SAYING |
| 00:09:47 | THAT MITT ROMNEY IS A DEEPLY
FLAWED CANDIDATE AND WE ARE |
| 00:09:50 | SAYING TO HIM -- IT IS FINE TO
HAVE THAT POINT OF VIEW, BUT |
| 00:09:55 | DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO USE WHAT
YOU ARE SAYING AGAINST HIM IF HE |
| 00:09:59 | IS THE NOMINEE.
>> WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE |
| 00:10:02 | REPUBLICAN PARTY IN OHIO IF HE
IS THE NOMINEE? |
| 00:10:04 | WILL THEY BE SPLIT?
>> IN THE PAST THEY HAVE COME |
| 00:10:09 | TOGETHER, AND THEY MIGHT TRY TO
COME TOGETHER, BUT REMEMBER BACK |
| 00:10:12 | WHEN BARACK OBAMA AND HILLARY
CLINTON WERE RUNNING AGAINST |
| 00:10:16 | EACH OTHER, A LOT OF THINGS WERE
SAID THAT WERE NOT NICE AT ALL |
| 00:10:20 | AND WE ALL THOUGHT THAT THAT
WOULD BE A PROBLEM AND IT WAS |
| 00:10:22 | NOT A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY CAME
TOGETHER. |
| 00:10:25 | THE QUESTION WILL BE -- ARE
THERE SO MANY THINGS BEING SAID |
| 00:10:29 | THAT CANNOT BE FORGIVEN?
WE WILL SEE, I GUESS. |
| 00:10:33 | >> LET ME ASK YOU, BILL, IF
PRIMARY VOTERS COULD SWITCH |
| 00:10:38 | PARTIES WITHOUT SIGNING ANYTHING
LIKE A LOYALTY OATH, WHICH WAS |
| 00:10:42 | ORDERED AFTER 2008 BECAUSE OF
THE PARTY SWITCHING |
| 00:10:47 | ACCUSATIONS, APPARENTLY MITT
ROMNEY AND RICK SANTORUM WERE |
| 00:10:49 | COUNTING ON THIS, TARGETING
THESE VOTERS IN THESE STRONGLY |
| 00:10:53 | DEMOCRATIC AREAS BY TELLING
PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND VOTE. |
| 00:10:56 | DO YOU THINK IT MADE A
DIFFERENCE, THIS IDEA OF PARTY |
| 00:11:01 | SWITCHING?
>> IT IS HARD TO FIGURE THAT |
| 00:11:03 | OUT.
MAYBE SOMEONE HAS DONE SOME EXIT |
| 00:11:05 | POLLS AND A NATIONAL NETWORK
MIGHT BE ABLE TO TELL WHAT -- |
| 00:11:09 | TELL US IF THERE WAS AN IMPACT,
BUT I DID SPEAK WITH ONE VOTER |
| 00:11:12 | WHO WAS AN INDEPENDENT AND THEY
REALLY LIKED OBAMA AND THEY |
| 00:11:16 | VOTED FOR SANTORUM IN THE
PRIMARY BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT |
| 00:11:19 | RILEY WOULD HAVE THE BEST SHOT
AT BEATING OBAMA. |
| 00:11:22 | -- THOUGHT ROMNEY WOULD HAVE THE
BEST SHOT AT BEATING OBAMA. |
| 00:11:27 | THERE WAS SOME REVERSE MISCHIEF
MAKING, BUT WHO KNOWS HOW MUCH. |
| 00:11:34 | >> BUT EVERY VOTED COUNT.
DEMOCRATS BUT SOME CANDIDATES |
| 00:11:40 | WITH INTERESTING BACKGROUNDS ON
THE BALLOT. |
| 00:11:42 | >> 10 DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE
OHIO EDUCATION ASSOCIATION. |
| 00:11:47 | THEY EACH WON THEIR RESPECTIVE
PRIMARY AND TUESDAY. |
| 00:11:50 | WHICH IS A BIG THING, IF YOU
THINK ABOUT IT. |
| 00:11:53 | OEA SAID THAT SENATE BILL 5 WAS
THE BIG MOTIVATION TO GO OUT AND |
| 00:12:00 | RUN.
>> WHICH IS WHY WE ARE TALKING |
| 00:12:02 | ABOUT HERE, IT COULD BE A KEY
ISSUE IN THE FALL. |
| 00:12:04 | >> SENATE BILL 5 ENERGIZED A LOT
OF PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES, |
| 00:12:13 | REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS.
WE ARE STILL SEEING SOME |
| 00:12:16 | FALLOUT.
>> THE BATTLEGROUND BETWEEN |
| 00:12:20 | CHAIRMAN KEVIN DEWINE AND JOHN
KASICH, WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT |
| 00:12:25 | HAPPENED THERE?
>> NOT MUCH. |
| 00:12:26 | GOVERNOR KASICH DECLARED
VICTORY, BUT KEVIN DEWINE IS |
| 00:12:32 | ASKING WHO WON.
SOME RULE CHANGES WERE MADE A |
| 00:12:35 | WHILE BACK AS FAR AS WHO COULD
SERVE, SO WE HAVE NOT HAD |
| 00:12:39 | ANYTHING ON THAT YET, BUT THEY
WILL SOON. |
| 00:12:42 | UNTIL WE HAVE THAT MEETING, I AM
NOT SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT IS |
| 00:12:46 | GOING ON WITH THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY |
| 00:12:50 | MUCH.
WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK. |
| 00:12:52 | ?
>> THERE WERE SOME SURPRISES IN |
| 00:13:02 | THE CONGRESSIONAL RACES LAST
NIGHT. |
| 00:13:03 | BUT EXPERTS ARE SAYING THE
NOVEMBER VOTE WON'T BE NEARLY AS |
| 00:13:05 | EXCITING.
INCUMBENTS IN TWO DISTRICTS WERE |
| 00:13:07 | OUSTED THAT WAS DEFINITELY
GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE 9TH, |
| 00:13:10 | WHERE VETERAN DEMOCRATS MARCY
KAPTUR AND DENNIS KUCINICH WERE |
| 00:13:13 | FACING OFF AGAINST EACH OTHER.
KAPTUR BEAT KUCINICH BY 16 |
| 00:13:18 | PERCENTAGE POINTS, AND WILL
FACE REPUBLICAN SAMUEL |
| 00:13:20 | WURZELBACHER, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
JOE THE PLUMBER FROM THE 2008 |
| 00:13:24 | PRESIDENTIAL RACE.
AND IN THE 2ND, REPUBLICAN |
| 00:13:28 | CONGRESSWOMAN JEAN SCHMIDT WAS
EDGED OUT BY TEA PARTY FAVORITE |
| 00:13:34 | BRAD WENSTRUP, WHO DEFEATED HER
BY SIX POINTS. |
| 00:13:35 | AND IN THE NEWLY DRAWN 3RD,
MARY JO KILROY WAS HOPING FOR A |
| 00:13:40 | RETURN TO CONGRESS, BUT WAS
NARROWLY BESTED IN A FOUR WAY |
| 00:13:44 | RACE BY FORMER OHIO HOUSE
MINORITY LEADER JOYCE BEATTY. |
| 00:13:46 | AND IN THESE PARTICULAR
DISTRICTS AND IN MANY OTHERS |
| 00:13:48 | THE REAL BATTLE WAS THIS WEEK,
BECAUSE THE DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN |
| 00:13:53 | DRAWN TO FAVOR ONE PARTY SO
STRONGLY THAT THERE'S LITTLE |
| 00:13:58 | MYSTERY ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN
IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. |
| 00:14:00 | THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ELECTION
LAW PROFESSOR DAN TOKAJI HAS |
| 00:14:03 | BEEN WATCHING FROM HIS POSITION
AT THE MORITZ COLLEGE OF LAW AT |
| 00:14:05 | OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY.
SO, HOW MANY OF OUR 16 |
| 00:14:11 | CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS WERE
DECIDED ON TUESDAY? |
| 00:14:14 | >> ALL 16 WERE DECIDED IN THE
PRIMARY ELECTION. |
| 00:14:18 | THERE COULD BE A SURPRISE HERE
OR THERE, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS |
| 00:14:22 | THAT THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE
DREW 12 DISTRICTS THAT ARE |
| 00:14:27 | LIKELY REPUBLICAN DISTRICTS,
FOUR DISTRICTS THAT ARE LIKELY |
| 00:14:31 | DEMOCRATIC DISTRICTS, AND NO
DISTRICTS THAT ARE STRONGLY |
| 00:14:35 | COMPETITIVE.
SO, FOR PRACTICAL PURPOSES, |
| 00:14:41 | BOTH CONGRESSIONAL RACES AND
STATE LEGISLATIVE RACES WERE |
| 00:14:43 | DECIDED ON TUESDAY AND, FOR THE
MOST PART, THE GENERAL ELECTION |
| 00:14:48 | IS A MERE FORMALITY FOR THOSE
RACES. |
| 00:14:51 | >> WHAT ABOUT THE ONE DISTRICT
WHERE JIM RENE C. AND BETTY |
| 00:14:56 | SUTTON ARE GOING TO BE FACING
EACH OTHER. |
| 00:14:58 | IS THAT A SAFE DISTRICT IN YOUR
ANALYSIS? |
| 00:15:02 | >> A PRETTY STRONG REPUBLICAN
DISTRICT, THE DISTRICT WHERE THE |
| 00:15:08 | PENINSULA WAS DRAWN OUT AT THE
LAST MINUTE. |
| 00:15:10 | THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT
WERE CHANGED SO THAT A LITTLE |
| 00:15:15 | CAPE COD-LIKE PENINSULA WAS
CARVED OUT OF THE DISTRICT, TO |
| 00:15:21 | INCLUDE THE COMPANY'S CORPORATE
HEADQUARTERS WHERE A LOT OF THE |
| 00:15:25 | REPUBLICAN DONORS WORK.
>> HOW DID THIS WHOLE THING |
| 00:15:33 | HAPPENED?
GERRYMANDERING IS LEGAL. |
| 00:15:35 | YOU HAVE SAID THAT THIS IS THE
MOST PARTISAN GERRYMANDERING YOU |
| 00:15:40 | HAVE SEEN.
>> THIS IS EXTREME PARTISAN |
| 00:15:44 | GERRYMANDERING AS WE HAS -- AS
WE HAVE SEEN IN THIS STATE, |
| 00:15:48 | ABOUT AS EXTREME AS WE HAVE
SEEN ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY. |
| 00:15:52 | IT IS NOT JUST THAT THE PARTY --
THAT IS CURRENTLY DOMINANT |
| 00:15:57 | SOUGHT TO MAXIMIZE THEIR SHARE
OF THE SEATS, BUT THEY HAVE |
| 00:16:00 | ACTUALLY BUILT A FIRE WALL SO
THAT EVEN IN A REALLY GOOD |
| 00:16:05 | DEMOCRATIC YEAR, REPUBLICANS
WERE CERTAIN TO CONTROL BOTH |
| 00:16:08 | HOUSES OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE
AND A MAJORITY OF THE OHIO |
| 00:16:15 | CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION.
KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS A STATE |
| 00:16:19 | THAT IS ROUGHLY SPLIT 50/50.
IF DEMOCRATS WERE IN CHARGE, |
| 00:16:25 | THEY WOULD DO EXACTLY THE SAME
THING. |
| 00:16:27 | IN FACT, IT PASSED A HIGH OF
HISTORY AND IN OTHER STATES, |
| 00:16:33 | WHEN DEMOCRATS CONTROLLED THE
PROCESS, THEY DID THE SAME KIND |
| 00:16:37 | OF GERRYMANDERING.
THIS IS NOT A REPUBLICAN ISSUE, |
| 00:16:40 | A DEMOCRATIC ISSUE, IT IS A
VOTERS' RIGHTS ISSUE. |
| 00:16:43 | WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS
NOT GOOD FOR VOTERS. |
| 00:16:47 | >> THAT ME TAKE UP ON THAT.
I SPOKE TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE |
| 00:16:52 | REPUBLICAN PARTY BUT THE VERY
THING, THE DEMOCRATS WOULD HAVE |
| 00:16:55 | DONE IT IF THEY WERE IN CHARGE,
BUT HE SAID THAT WAS NOT TRUE, |
| 00:16:59 | THAT WHEN THEY DREW THE LINE IN
THE 1980'S, REPUBLICANS TOOK |
| 00:17:03 | OVER THE SENATE NOT LONG AFTER.
>> EVERYONE SAYS THAT THEY WERE |
| 00:17:12 | BEING FAIR, BUT IN THE REAL
WORLD WHEN THE PARTY IN POWER |
| 00:17:16 | HOLDS THE PEN, THEY ARE NOT
THINKING ABOUT THE INTERESTS OF |
| 00:17:18 | THE PEOPLE OR THE VOTERS'
INTERESTS. |
| 00:17:21 | THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT IT THEIR
OWN INTERESTS -- THEY'RE |
| 00:17:25 | THINKING ABOUT THEIR OWN
INTERESTS IN THE INTEREST OF THE |
| 00:17:28 | PARTY.
WE HAVE SEEN THIS OVER AND OVER |
| 00:17:30 | IN U.S. HISTORY AND HISTORY OF
OHIO AND THE PARTY. |
| 00:17:34 | IS ABOUT TAKING THIS ENORMOUS
POWER AWAY FROM INCUMBENT |
| 00:17:38 | POLITICIANS AND PUTTING IT BACK
IN THE HANDS OF CITIZENS SO THAT |
| 00:17:44 | WE HAVE A FAIR PROCESS THAT
TREATS ALL PARTIES AND VOTERS IN |
| 00:17:48 | A FAIR WAY.
VOTER -- >> VOTER TURNOUT WAS IN |
| 00:17:52 | THE LOW FOR A SUPER TUESDAY.
THERE WERE A LOT OF FACTORS. |
| 00:17:56 | NO DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL
NOMINATION ON THE BALLOT BEING |
| 00:18:00 | ONE OF THEM.
DO YOU SEE A CONNECTION BETWEEN |
| 00:18:04 | LOW VOTER TURNOUT AND SOME
DISTRICTS WHERE YOUR CANDIDATE |
| 00:18:07 | LIKELY WILL NOT WIN IN THE FALL?
>> IT IS QUITE POSSIBLE THAT IF |
| 00:18:11 | YOU ARE IN THE THIRD
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS |
| 00:18:14 | A STRONG DEMOCRATIC DISTRICT AND
YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN WHO MIGHT |
| 00:18:18 | OTHERWISE BE INTERESTED IN A
CONGRESSIONAL RACE, THERE IS NOT |
| 00:18:24 | MUCH INCENTIVE TO TURN OUT,
BECAUSE WHOEVER TURNS OUT IS NOT |
| 00:18:30 | LIKELY TO WIN.
VOTERS IN THE 15TH DISTRICT, |
| 00:18:36 | INCLUDING PARTS OF UPPER
ARLINGTON AND DOWN TO |
| 00:18:40 | WILMINGTON IN SOUTHWESTERN AND
SOUTHEASTERN OHIO, ALL THE WAY |
| 00:18:43 | OUT TO ATHENS, THIS IS A STRONG
REPUBLICAN DISTRICT. |
| 00:18:48 | IF YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT IN THAT
DISTRICT, NOT MUCH INCENTIVE TO |
| 00:18:52 | TURN OUT, BECAUSE WE CAN BE
CONFIDENT THAT THE DEMOCRATIC |
| 00:18:58 | CANDIDATE IS GOING TO LOSE AND
THAT THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE IS |
| 00:19:01 | GOING TO WIN.
>> HOW CAN THESE DISTRICTS BE |
| 00:19:05 | JUSTIFIED?
-- HOW CAN THESE DISTRICTS BE |
| 00:19:13 | JUSTIFIED?
>> THEY CANNOT BE JUSTIFIED AND |
| 00:19:20 | THE ONLY EXPLANATION FOR THEM IS
THAT THEY ARE DESIGNED TO |
| 00:19:23 | MAXIMIZE PARTISAN ADVANTAGE AND
DESIGN FOR ADVANTAGE. |
| 00:19:28 | THE WAY THAT WE AS CITIZENS NEED
TO DEAL WITH THIS PROBLEM, IN MY |
| 00:19:35 | POINT OF VIEW, IS TO ENACT
THROUGH OUR INITIATIVE POWER A |
| 00:19:39 | CHANGE TO THE CONSTITUTION THAT
WOULD TAKE POWER AWAY FROM THE |
| 00:19:46 | CONSTITUTION AND GIVE IT BACK TO
CITIZENS TO DRAW LINES THAT |
| 00:19:49 | BETTER REPRESENT THE REP -- THE
INTERESTS OF WE, THE PEOPLE. |
| 00:19:52 | >> FIRST I WANT TO ASK YOU, DO
YOU THINK THAT THESE DISTRICTS |
| 00:19:57 | AND THE DIFFICULTY IN RUNNING
AS MINORITY PARTY, IS THAT |
| 00:20:01 | SUPPRESSING THE QUALITY OF
CANDIDATES? |
| 00:20:04 | >> CERTAINLY.
MOST NOTABLE ABOUT THIS, IT MOST |
| 00:20:08 | SUPPRESSES MODERATE CANDIDATES.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SAFE |
| 00:20:16 | REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC
DISTRICTS HERE IN OHIO, WITH |
| 00:20:20 | VERY FEW IN BETWEEN.
VERY FEW COMPETITIVE DISTRICTS. |
| 00:20:25 | IF YOU ARE A MODERATE, YOU
BASICALLY HAVE TWO CHOICES. |
| 00:20:29 | THE EXTREME RIGHT AS A
REPUBLICAN, THE EXTREME LEFT AS |
| 00:20:34 | A DEMOCRAT, OR YOU CAN BOWED OUT
ALTOGETHER, WHICH IS A SHAME, |
| 00:20:39 | BECAUSE WHEN WE SEE THE
POLARIZATION THAT HAS GRIPPED |
| 00:20:42 | WASHINGTON, AND THE GRIDLOCK THE
RESULTS, WE AS ORDINARY CITIZENS |
| 00:20:50 | KNOW THAT THERE HAS GOT TO BE A
BETTER WAY OF DOING THINGS, |
| 00:20:53 | BECAUSE IT IS A HANDCUFF ON THE
GOVERNMENT'S ABILITY TO DO ITS |
| 00:20:58 | JOB.
>> THIS WOULD CREATE AN |
| 00:21:02 | INDEPENDENT CITIZEN COMMISSION
TO DRAW THE LINE, BUT HOW WOULD |
| 00:21:06 | THAT WORK?
AND HOW WOULD YOU GET THAT |
| 00:21:08 | PASSED?
I BELIEVE THAT THAT CAME UP IN |
| 00:21:13 | 2005.
>> IT WAS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM |
| 00:21:15 | THE ONE WE ARE PROPOSING NOW.
THIS WOULD CREATE AN INDEPENDENT |
| 00:21:19 | CITIZEN COMMISSION THAT WOULD BE
REQUIRED TO LOOK AT FOUR |
| 00:21:24 | FACTORS.
FIRST, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S |
| 00:21:27 | FAIRNESS BETWEEN THE PARTIES.
SECOND, MAKING SURE THAT THERE |
| 00:21:31 | ARE COMPETITIVE DISTRICTS.
THIRD, MAKING SURE THAT |
| 00:21:35 | DISTRICTS ARE COMPACT AND FORTH,
MAKING SURE THAT THEY HEAR TO |
| 00:21:41 | EXISTING GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES
LIKE COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL |
| 00:21:44 | BOUNDARIES.
THIS WOULD BE DRAWN BY INCUMBENT |
| 00:21:54 | POLITICIANS, PAID LOBBYISTS, AND
OTHER POLITICAL INSIDERS WOULD |
| 00:21:59 | BE EXCLUDED.
THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM THE |
| 00:22:02 | REFORM OHIO NOW INITIATIVE
PROPOSED BACK IN 2005, WHICH |
| 00:22:08 | ELEVATED COMPETITIVENESS ABOVE
EVERYTHING ELSE. |
| 00:22:11 | WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU GET ODDLY
SHAPED DISTRICTS. |
| 00:22:15 | THIS IS WHY WE DECIDED TO MAKE
COMPACTNESS AND ADHERENCE TO |
| 00:22:19 | DIFFERENT COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL
ENVIRONMENTS. |
| 00:22:28 | WE HAVE READ ABOUT THE OBVIOUS
MAPS THAT ONE COULD POSSIBLY |
| 00:22:37 | IMAGINE.
THIS WILL BE VERY FRESH IN |
| 00:22:40 | VOTERS' MEMORIES WHEN THE
STROLLS AROUND. |
| 00:22:42 | WE ARE HOPING TO GET THIS THING
ON THE BALLOT SO THAT VOTERS CAN |
| 00:22:46 | TAKE BACK THE POWER, AWAY FROM
THE INCUMBENT POLITICIANS. |
| 00:22:51 | >> DEMOCRATS TRIED TO PUT THE
METS ON THE BALLOT BECAUSE THEY |
| 00:22:55 | WERE TRYING TO WORK ON HOUSE
BILL 24, WHICH WILL BE ON THE |
| 00:23:01 | BALLOT THIS FALL.
DO YOU EXPECT OPPOSITION TO THE |
| 00:23:04 | MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES?
I WONDER IF THEY DO NOT SEE ANY |
| 00:23:07 | BENEFIT FOR THEMSELVES IN THIS.
>> I THINK THAT THERE WILL BE |
| 00:23:12 | REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS TO
GIVE THE POWER OF REDISTRICTING |
| 00:23:19 | BACK TO THE PEOPLE.
PEOPLE IN POWER DO NOT LIKE TO |
| 00:23:25 | GIVE UP THAT POWER.
WHILE THE PLAN STRONGLY FAVORS |
| 00:23:29 | REPUBLICANS, A LOT OF DEMOCRATS
ARE NOW IN DISTRICTS THAT ARE |
| 00:23:34 | 65% TO 80% DEMOCRATIC AND ARE
PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH THOSE |
| 00:23:38 | DISTRICTS, EVEN IF IT IS NOT TO
THE ULTIMATE ADVANTAGE OF THE |
| 00:23:41 | PARTY.
WE EXPECT THAT THERE WILL BE |
| 00:23:44 | SOME OPPOSITION TO THIS, BUT WE
ALSO THINK THAT THERE WILL BE A |
| 00:23:52 | LOT OF SUPPORT.
MAYBE NOT FROM A LOT OF |
| 00:23:54 | POLITICIANS, BUT SUPPORT FROM
PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES |
| 00:23:58 | THROUGHOUT OHIO AND OF VARYING
POLITICAL PERSUASIONS WHO |
| 00:24:02 | RECOGNIZE THAT OUR POLITICS ARE
BROKEN. |
| 00:24:05 | ESPECIALLY IN WASHINGTON, BUT
ALSO AT THE STATE LEVEL. |
| 00:24:09 | >> THERE HAS BEEN TALK ABOUT
LAWMAKERS REPEALING HOUSE BILL |
| 00:24:14 | 184.
THEY MAY REPEAL IT BEFORE IT CAN |
| 00:24:18 | BE REJECTED.
WHAT YOU THINK OF THAT |
| 00:24:21 | POSSIBILITY?
>> I THINK THAT IT WAS AN |
| 00:24:25 | UNFORTUNATE WHAT AND THIS IS A
GREAT EXAMPLE OF POLITICIANS |
| 00:24:28 | FAILING TO LISTEN TO VOTERS.
NOT MANY PEOPLE IN THE STATE |
| 00:24:32 | THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA TO
LIMIT OUR POSSIBILITIES OF -- |
| 00:24:38 | OPPORTUNITIES TO VOTE.
TO CURTAIL IN PERSON EARLY |
| 00:24:41 | VOTING.
TO LIMIT ABSENTEE VOTING. |
| 00:24:44 | I THINK THAT WHEN PEOPLE DO VOTE
ON IT IN NOVEMBER, IT WILL GO |
| 00:24:49 | DOWN TO A DEFEAT.
THAT IS WHY THE VERY POLITICIANS |
| 00:24:53 | THAT ENACTED THIS VOTE
SUPPRESSION BILL ARE NOW RUNNING |
| 00:24:56 | FAST IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
SOME OF THEM ARE AT LEAST |
| 00:25:01 | FALLING OVER THEMSELVES TO
REPEAL IT. |
| 00:25:03 | WE HAVE TO SIT -- WE WILL HAVE
TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THOSE, |
| 00:25:08 | BUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IT IS
IMPORTANT TO PREVENT THESE |
| 00:25:13 | PROVISIONS, WHICH LIMIT OUR
ABILITY TO EFFECTIVELY EXERCISE |
| 00:25:17 | OUR RIGHT TO VOTE.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO PREVENT THESE |
| 00:25:19 | FROM BECOMING A LOT.
>> WITH A REPEAL THE |
| 00:25:24 | CONSTITUTIONAL IN YOUR VIEW?
>> IF IT WAS WITHOUT ENACTING A |
| 00:25:29 | SUBSTITUTE, IT WOULD BE
APPROPRIATE AND CONSTITUTIONAL. |
| 00:25:32 | ON THE OTHER HAND, IF THEY
REPEALED IT AND TRIED TO REENACT |
| 00:25:37 | THE VERY PROVISIONS THAT THEY
JUST REPEALED, THAT WOULD |
| 00:25:41 | CREATE SOME SERIOUS
CONSTITUTIONAL PROBLEMS. |
| 00:25:44 | >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, DAN.
>> THANK YOU, KAREN. |
| 00:25:49 | >> AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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