| 00:00:01 | >> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
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| 00:00:04 | COMES FROM THE LAW OFFICES OF
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BUSINESSES IN OHIO, ACROSS THE |
| 00:00:14 | COUNTRY AND THE WORLD.
AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION |
| 00:00:18 | ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
131,000 TEACHERS, SUPPORT |
| 00:00:22 | PROFESSIONAL AND HIGHER
EDUCATION FACULTY WERE WORKING |
| 00:00:25 | FOR GREAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR
EVERY CHILD. |
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ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IS MADE |
| 00:00:33 | POSSIBLE BY ETECH OHIO.
>> IT WAS A BUSY WEEK REGARDING |
| 00:00:42 | OHIO'S INCREASINGLY COMPLEX
ELECTIONS LAWS. BUT THERE ARE |
| 00:00:44 | STILL A LOT OF UNRESOLVED ISSUES
WITH LESS THAN THREE MONTHS TILL |
| 00:00:46 | ELECTION DAY.
AND THE STATE IS BRINGING IN |
| 00:00:48 | MORE MONEY THAN EXPECTED AND
THERE'S STILL THE POSSIBILITY OF |
| 00:00:50 | A TAX ON DRILLERS. THOSE ITEMS
ARE JUST A FEW ON THE LIST OF |
| 00:00:52 | NOTES THAT SOME ARE MAKING ON
LOOKING INTO THE TAX CODE AND |
| 00:00:55 | IN WHAT AREAS. I TALK TO TWO
EXPERTS ABOUT TAX REFORM IN |
| 00:00:58 | OHIO AND WHETHER IT NEEDS TO
HAPPEN. |
| 00:00:59 | ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO". |
| 00:01:03 | THERE WAS LOTS OF ELECTION-
RELATED ACTION THIS WEEK BUT |
| 00:01:09 | UNFORTUNATELY, SOME QUESTIONS
WERE LEFT UNANSWERED. |
| 00:01:11 | FIRST THERE'S THE LAWSUIT FILED
OVER THE CLOSING OF THE EARLY |
| 00:01:16 | VOTING PERIOD THREE DAYS EARLY.
A FEDERAL JUDGE SAYS HE'S STILL |
| 00:01:19 | CONSIDERING HIS RULING.
DEMOCRATS AND THE OBAMA |
| 00:01:22 | ADMINISTRATION SAY SINCE
MILITARY PERSONNEL AND OHIOANS |
| 00:01:25 | LIVING OVERSEAS ARE STILL
ALLOWED TO CAST BALLOTS IN |
| 00:01:28 | PERSON IN THAT THREE DAY
PERIOD, THE LAW THAT CLOSES THE |
| 00:01:30 | WINDOW IS DISCRIMINATORY. BUT
REPUBLICANS SAY STAYING OPEN |
| 00:01:35 | THOSE EXTRA THREE DAYS CAUSES
TOO MUCH CHAOS FOR BOARDS OF |
| 00:01:39 | ELECTIONS.
THEN THERE'S THE ISSUE OF WHICH |
| 00:01:43 | BOARDS OF ELECTIONS WILL HAVE
EXTENDED VOTING HOURS DURING |
| 00:01:45 | EARLY VOTING. IN SOME
REPUBLICAN COUNTIES, BOARDS OF |
| 00:01:47 | ELECTIONS MEMBERS FROM BOTH
PARTIES VOTED TO HAVE EXTENDED |
| 00:01:51 | HOURS. BUT IN SOME DEMOCRATIC
COUNTIES, DEMOCRATIC BOARD |
| 00:01:56 | MEMBERS WANTED TO STAY OPEN LATE
WHILE REPUBLICANS VOTED TO CLOSE |
| 00:01:59 | AT REGULAR TIME. SECRETARY OF
STATE JON HUSTED TOOK A LOT OF |
| 00:02:03 | FLAK OVER CLAIMING LOCAL CONTROL
AND SIDING WITH THE REPUBLICAN |
| 00:02:07 | BOARD OF ELECTIONS OFFICIALS IN
THOSE DEMOCRATIC COUNTIES, BUT |
| 00:02:10 | THEN NOT REQUIRING BOARDS OF
ELECTIONS OFFICIALS IN |
| 00:02:14 | REPUBLICAN COUNTIES TO CLOSE
EARLY. THIS WEEK, HUSTED ISSUED |
| 00:02:17 | A DIRECTIVE THAT ALL COUNTY
BOARD OF ELECTIONS OFFICES WILL |
| 00:02:20 | CLOSE AT THEIR REGULAR TIMES.
BUT THAT DIRECTIVE COULD BE |
| 00:02:25 | OVERTURNED IF THE FEDERAL JUDGE
RULES IN FAVOR OF THE DEMOCRATS |
| 00:02:28 | IN THE THREE-DAY EARLY VOTING
LAWSUIT. |
| 00:02:30 | AND THIS WEEK THE GROUP THAT
GOT THE REPEAL OF A |
| 00:02:33 | CONTROVERSIAL PACKAGE OF
ELECTION LAWS KNOWN AS HOUSE |
| 00:02:36 | BILL 194 WAS REBUFFED BY THE
BALLOT BOARD SO THAT REPEAL |
| 00:02:40 | WON'T BE ON THE FALL BALLOT.
HUSTED SAID THERE WAS NO REASON |
| 00:02:43 | TO PUT THAT REPEAL ON THE
BALLOT, SINCE THE LEGISLATURE |
| 00:02:46 | ITSELF REPEALED THE LAW EARLIER
THIS YEAR. BUT THE REPEAL'S |
| 00:02:51 | SUPPORTERS SAY LAWMAKERS MADE
SOME CHANGES THAT THEY DON'T |
| 00:02:56 | LIKE, INCLUDING THE ELIMINATION
OF THE LAST THREE DAYS OF EARLY |
| 00:02:59 | VOTING, WHICH ONCE AGAIN, A
FEDERAL JUDGE WILL DECIDE ON. |
| 00:03:01 | BE US SEN. ROB PORTMAN FOR
VICE -- AND AS WE ALL KNOW, IT |
| 00:03:09 | WILL NOT BE A U.S. SENATOR ROB
PORTMAN FOR VICE PRESIDENT. BUT |
| 00:03:13 | PORTMAN CONTINUED TO CAMPAIGN
FOR REPUBLICAN HOPEFUL MITT |
| 00:03:17 | ROMNEY, ALONGSIDE HIM AT EVENTS
THIS WEEK IN BEALLSVILLE, |
| 00:03:19 | ZANESVILLE AND CHILLICOTHE
WHERE HE WAS JOINED BY GOV. JOHN |
| 00:03:22 | KASICH. AND PORTMAN STUMPED FOR
ROMNEY'S NEWLY MINTED RUNNING |
| 00:03:24 | MATE REP. PAUL RYAN WHEN RYAN
SPOKE AT HIS ALMA MATER, MIAMI |
| 00:03:26 | UNIVERSITY OF OHIO.
SO FAR, THE STATE IS IN THE |
| 00:03:30 | BLACK THIS FISCAL YEAR. TAX
REVENUES FOR JULY CAME IN 69 |
| 00:03:32 | MILLION DOLLARS AHEAD OF
ESTIMATES, OR ABOUT FIVE |
| 00:03:35 | PERCENT ABOVE THE PREDICTED
AMOUNT FOR THE MONTH. AND THE |
| 00:03:38 | OFFICE OF BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT
IS NOW ESTIMATING A YEAR-END |
| 00:03:41 | BALANCE OF ABOUT 552 MILLION
DOLLARS. SOME SEE THIS AS A |
| 00:03:46 | CHANCE FOR GOV. JOHN KASICH TO
ONCE AGAIN TALK ABOUT CUTTING |
| 00:03:49 | THE STATE INCOME TAX AN ISSUE
THAT HE LAUNCHED HIS CAMPAIGN ON |
| 00:03:52 | WHEN HE ANNOUNCED HE WAS RUNNING
FOR GOVERNOR. BUT HE'S ALSO |
| 00:03:57 | TALKED ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE TAX
REFORM LOOKING INTO MORE THAN 7 |
| 00:04:00 | BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF
EXEMPTIONS SUCH AS THE $20 |
| 00:04:03 | PERSONAL EXEMPTION CREDIT, THE
EXEMPTION FOR SPOUSES AND |
| 00:04:08 | DEPENDENTS, THE DEDUCTIONS FOR
EXCESS MEDICAL EXPENSES, FOR |
| 00:04:11 | CONTRIBUTIONS TO COLLEGE SAVINGS
PROGRAMS AND TO POLITICAL |
| 00:04:15 | CAMPAIGNS. THERE ARE ALSO SALES
TAX EXEMPTIONS FOR CABLE TV |
| 00:04:19 | INSTALLATION, FOR NEWSPAPER AND
MAGAZINE SUBSCRIPTIONS, FOR |
| 00:04:23 | SALES TO AND BY CHURCHES AND
SOME NON-PROFITS, FOR VEHICLES |
| 00:04:26 | USED OUT OF STATE, AND FOR
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. AND OF |
| 00:04:29 | COURSE THE GOVERNOR IS STILL
TALKING ABOUT HIS PROPOSED |
| 00:04:33 | SEVERANCE TAX INCREASE ON OIL
AND NATURAL GAS DRILLERS WHICH |
| 00:04:36 | HE SAYS WILL BE USED TO OFFSET A
5 PERCENT INCOME TAX CUT IN A |
| 00:04:39 | FEW YEARS.
BUT WHATEVER THE TAX REFORMS |
| 00:04:43 | OR CHANGES, IF YOU PREFER THAT
MIGHT COME ABOUT, THEY WILL |
| 00:04:48 | AFFECT INDIVIDUAL OHIOANS. AND
THEY CAN ADD UP. |
| 00:04:50 | TO TALK ABOUT TAX REFORM IN
OHIO, WE HAVE TWO EXPERTS |
| 00:04:54 | WHO'VE STUDIED TAXES IN OHIO.
KEVIN HOLTSBERRY IS THE |
| 00:04:56 | PRESIDENT OF THE CONSERVATIVE
THINK TANK THE BUCKEYE |
| 00:04:59 | INSTITUTE. AND DALE BUTLAND IS
THE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR |
| 00:05:02 | INNOVATION OHIO, A PROGRESSIVE
THINK TANK. |
| 00:05:04 | >> LET ME START WITH YOU, KEVIN.
WHY DO WE NEED TO KEEP TALKING |
| 00:05:11 | ABOUT CUTTING STATE INCOME
TAXES? |
| 00:05:13 | THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GOVERNOR
KASICH HAS TALKED ABOUT FOR A |
| 00:05:16 | WHILE.
WHY WOULD WE WANT TO CUT BACK |
| 00:05:19 | ANY MORE THAN IT HAS ALREADY
BEEN CUT? |
| 00:05:21 | WE GOT A 20% ACROSS-THE-BOARD
CUT WITH TAX REFORM STARTING IN |
| 00:05:26 | 2005.
WHY CUT IT MORE? |
| 00:05:27 | >> THERE ARE TWO REASONS.
ONE, ECONOMIC COMPETITIVENESS. |
| 00:05:33 | ECONOMICS DO NOT HAVE -- HAPPEN
IN A VACUUM. |
| 00:05:35 | WHAT OHIO DOES AFFECTS THINGS
GLOBALLY. |
| 00:05:42 | WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE ARE
COMPETING. |
| 00:05:44 | THE SECOND THING IS JUST TO SET
BROAD GOOD POLICY. |
| 00:05:46 | ONE THING IT SEEMS TO INDICATE
IN THE RESEARCH IS THAT BROAD, |
| 00:05:50 | FLAT, AND SIMPLE TAXES, AND
TAXES THAT DO NOT PUNISH INCOME |
| 00:05:56 | AND INVESTMENT ARE THE BEST TAX
SYSTEMS TO HAVE. |
| 00:05:58 | IF OHIO HAD A COMPLEX AND
COSTLY TAX SYSTEM, JUST LOWERING |
| 00:06:04 | THE RATES SOME IS NOT A
SOLUTION. |
| 00:06:06 | IT IS JUST A START ON THE REFORM
OF THE WHOLE SYSTEM. |
| 00:06:10 | >> IS IT YOUR CONTENTION THAT
STATES WITH LOWER INCOME TAXES |
| 00:06:13 | OR EVEN NO INCOME TAXES DO
BETTER THAN STATES THAT HAVE |
| 00:06:17 | INCOME-TAX IS ABOVE A CERTAIN
LEVEL? |
| 00:06:18 | >> I THINK YES.
THERE IS A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT |
| 00:06:21 | SHOWS THERE IS A -- THAT PEOPLE
DO PUT MORE INTO THEIR TAXES. |
| 00:06:28 | IT IS NOT THE ONLY FACTOR.
THEY DO PLAY A ROLE IN WHERE |
| 00:06:31 | PEOPLE CHOOSE TO LIVE AND WORK.
IF YOU TAKE THE STATE WITH NO |
| 00:06:34 | INCOME TAXES, THEY HAVE SEEN
MUCH MORE EMPLOYMENT GROWTH, |
| 00:06:39 | PRIVATE SECTOR GROWTH IN TERMS
OF GDP, AND POPULATION GROWTH |
| 00:06:43 | OHIO HAS BEEN LOSING IN ALL OF
THOSE FACTORS. |
| 00:06:46 | AS ONE OF THE HIGHER INCOME TAX
STATES IN THE COUNTRY. |
| 00:06:49 | >> DEROCHE, I WANT TO BRING YOU
IN ON THIS. |
| 00:06:52 | WHAT ABOUT THE IDEA OF A FLAT
INCOME TAX BEING SIMPLE AND |
| 00:06:58 | FAIR?
HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OHIO? |
| 00:07:00 | >> A FLAT TAX IS NOT FAIR, FIRST
OF ALL. |
| 00:07:04 | ONE OF THE FEW PROGRESSIVE TAXES
THAT WE HAVE IN THIS STATE OR IN |
| 00:07:07 | ANY OTHER WOULD BE THE INCOME
TAX. |
| 00:07:10 | THE IDEA IS THAT THE MORE MONEY
YOU MAKE, THE HIGH RATE YOU PAY. |
| 00:07:13 | AND IF YOU HAVE A TAX THAT IS
FLAT, THEN EVERYBODY PAYS THE |
| 00:07:20 | SAME.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT MIDDLE |
| 00:07:22 | INCOME PEOPLE AND POOR PEOPLE
PAY A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THEIR |
| 00:07:25 | INCOME FOR THINGS WE ALL HAVE TO
HAVE. |
| 00:07:28 | FOOD, CLOTHING, SHELTER.
THAT IS WHY A REGRESSIVE TAX IS |
| 00:07:32 | WHAT YOU GET WITH A FLAT TAX.
GEBBEN SAID A MOMENT AGO THAT |
| 00:07:37 | THE STATES THAT DO NOT HAVE AN
INCOME TAX DO SO MUCH BETTER. |
| 00:07:40 | I THINK IT WAS WINSTON
CHURCHILL WHO ONCE SAID "FACTS |
| 00:07:43 | ARE STUBBORN THINGS."
I HAVE A STUDY DONE BY THE |
| 00:07:49 | INSTITUTE ON TAXATION AND
ECONOMIC POLICY IN WASHINGTON. |
| 00:07:53 | THEY LOOKED AT NINE HIGH-TAX
STATES AND 9 LOH ORRICK NO-TAX |
| 00:07:59 | STATES.
-- |
| 00:08:01 | LOW OR NO-TAX STATES.
STATES WITH HIGH INCOME TAX |
| 00:08:14 | RATES EQUAL OR SURPASS THOSE
THAT ARE LACKING IN INCOME TAX |
| 00:08:21 | RATES.
A LOWER TAXED STATE DOES NOT |
| 00:08:25 | LEAD TO HIGHER ECONOMIC FIGURES.
AND I MIGHT ADD, OHIO IS NOT A |
| 00:08:29 | HIGH-TAX STATE WHEN YOU WERE
LOOKING AT THE STATE INCOME TAX. |
| 00:08:32 | WHERE WE TEND TO BE HIRED WHEN
YOU LOOK AT THE LOCAL TAXES. |
| 00:08:36 | >> GOVERNOR KASICH SAID A 5.9
INCOME TAX IS RIDICULOUSLY HIGH. |
| 00:08:42 | HE WOULD PROBABLY DISAGREE WITH
YOU ON THIS AND MANY OTHER |
| 00:08:47 | THINGS.
BUT THIS IDEA OF PUNISHING THOSE |
| 00:08:49 | THAT HAVE MORE MONEY WHO MIGHT
CHOOSE TO STAY HERE OR MOVED |
| 00:08:51 | HERE, THEY MIGHT LEAVE
OTHERWISE. |
| 00:08:54 | ISN'T IT THE IDEA TO KEEP PEOPLE
HERE AND BRING IN WEALTHIER |
| 00:08:59 | PEOPLE TO LOWER THAT?
>> THIS IS THE SAME OLD TRICKLE- |
| 00:09:02 | DOWN THEORY THAT YOU ALWAYS GET
FROM GOVERNOR KASICH, THE |
| 00:09:06 | REPUBLICANS, AND EVEN MY FRIEND,
KEVIN. |
| 00:09:08 | THE IDEA THAT YOU JUST CUT TASK
-- CUT TAXES FOR THE WEALTHY |
| 00:09:13 | FOLKS, THE JOB CREATORS, THAT
THERE WILL BE A BOOM IN ECONOMIC |
| 00:09:17 | ACTIVITY, IF THAT WERE THE CASE
WE WOULD BE SWIMMING IN JOBS IN |
| 00:09:23 | THIS COUNTRY.
WE TRIED THAT UNDER GEORGE W. |
| 00:09:26 | BUSH.
WE CUT TAXES TWICE. |
| 00:09:27 | WE HAVE THE LOWEST JOB GROWTH
THAT WE'VE HAD IN 50 YEARS. |
| 00:09:31 | HERE IN OHIO AS YOU POINTED OUT,
KAREN, IN 2005, WE STARTED AT |
| 00:09:36 | 21% ACROSS-THE-BOARD INCOME TAX
CUT OVER FIVE YEARS. |
| 00:09:40 | WHAT HAPPENED?
WE LOST OVER 8 MILLION JOBS. |
| 00:09:43 | >> DURING A RECESSION, THOUGH.
THERE WERE OTHER FACTORS. |
| 00:09:47 | >> THE POINT IS, HERE IN OHIO,
WE LOST 400,000 JOBS AFTER THESE |
| 00:09:52 | TAX CUTS.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER |
| 00:09:56 | THAT CUTTING TAXES FOR HIGH-
INCOME PEOPLE IS GOING TO LEAD |
| 00:09:59 | TO JOB CREATION.
>> I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT |
| 00:10:03 | YOU GET INTO THIS DEBATE
WHENEVER YOU DISCUSS IT BECAUSE |
| 00:10:06 | THE MEASUREMENTS ARE TRICKY AND
HOW YOU MEASURE IS IMPORTANT. |
| 00:10:10 | UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES ARE NOT AN
EFFECTIVE MEASUREMENT OF GROWTH. |
| 00:10:14 | AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IT TAKES
A SNAPSHOT. |
| 00:10:18 | LOOK AT FLORIDA, THEY MAY HAVE A
HIGHER UNEMPLOYMENT RATE |
| 00:10:21 | CURRENTLY AT OHIO.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST |
| 00:10:24 | DECADE, THEY HAVE ADDED HUNDREDS
OF THOUSANDS MORE JOBS THAN |
| 00:10:27 | OHIO.
HE WOULD NOT SAY THE ECONOMY |
| 00:10:30 | THERE IS WORSE OFF THAN A HIGH
JUST BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR |
| 00:10:32 | MONTH THEY HAVE A HIGHER
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. |
| 00:10:35 | THE SAME THING IS TRUE WHEN YOU
LOOK AT PER-CAPITA INCOME. |
| 00:10:38 | WHEN A LOW-INCOME PERSON LEAVES
A STATE BASED ON HIGH INCOME |
| 00:10:42 | TAXES AND GOES AWAY, THE AVERAGE
PER-CAPITA INCOME OF THAT STATE |
| 00:10:45 | ACTUALLY GOES UP, EVEN THOUGH
THEY LOST A PERSON. |
| 00:10:48 | IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, THE
POPULATION, THE PEOPLE VOTING |
| 00:10:53 | WITH THEIR FEET, THAT IS A
PRETTY POWERFUL MESSAGE. |
| 00:10:56 | OHIO LOST SOMETHING LIKE 368,000
PEOPLE FROM 2000 THROUGH 2009. |
| 00:11:02 | THOSE PEOPLE WENT TO THE SOUTH
AND WEST, TO PLACES WITH NO |
| 00:11:06 | INCOME TAX.
PEOPLE MAKE ECONOMIC DECISIONS. |
| 00:11:09 | IF IT COSTS MORE TO DO BUSINESS
IN A STATE, ARE WE SAYING THAT |
| 00:11:13 | DOES NOT IN COMBAT -- DOES NOT
IMPACT WHERE PEOPLE DECIDE TO |
| 00:11:16 | LIVE AND WORK?
>> NO HEIL AT SOME OF THE LOWEST |
| 00:11:19 | BUSINESS TAXES OF ANY STATE --
OHIO HAS SOME OF THE LOWEST |
| 00:11:24 | BUSINESS TAXES OF ANY STATE.
BUT LET'S SET THAT ASIDE. |
| 00:11:30 | GOVERNOR KASICH SAID HE WANTED
IN THE AND TO ELIMINATE INCOME |
| 00:11:32 | TAX.
IF YOU DO THAT, WHAT HAPPENS? |
| 00:11:35 | YOU STILL NEED MONEY TO PAY FOR
PUBLIC SAFETY AND ROADS AND ALL |
| 00:11:38 | THE REST.
WHERE DO YOU GET IT? |
| 00:11:40 | HE WILL HAVE TO INCREASE THE
STATE'S SALES TAX, WHICH IS A |
| 00:11:45 | REGRESSIVE TAX THAT WILL HURT
LOWER AND MIDDLE INCOME PEOPLE |
| 00:11:49 | MORE.
>> NOT IF YOU TARGET IT. |
| 00:11:51 | FOR EXAMPLE, YOU TALK ABOUT AN
INCOME TAX CUT HELPING THE |
| 00:11:56 | WEALTHY MORE.
WHY DON'T YOU TAX THE AREAS |
| 00:11:59 | THAT HE WILL BE USED MORE?
>> BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH |
| 00:12:02 | MONEY IN THOSE.
YES, IT IS A GREAT IDEA, AND I |
| 00:12:05 | THINK KEVIN AND I WOULD AGREE
THAT IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE |
| 00:12:08 | LOOPHOLES IN THE TAX CODE RIGHT
NOW -- FOR INSTANCE, A TAX BREAK |
| 00:12:11 | FOR PEOPLE WHO BUY TIME SHARES
AND PRIVATE JETS, A TAX BENEFIT |
| 00:12:16 | FOR BEER MAKERS TO PAY THEIR
TAX A COUPLE OF WEEKS EARLY. |
| 00:12:19 | BUT IF YOU JUST STARTED THE TAX
CUTS USED BY BIG BUSINESS AND |
| 00:12:24 | THE WEALTHY, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH
MONEY TO COVER THE LOSS OF |
| 00:12:26 | REVENUE THAT YOU GET FROM
CUTTING THE STATE INCOME TAX. |
| 00:12:29 | WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE TO GO INTO
THOSE LOOPHOLES FOR THOSE TAX |
| 00:12:35 | PREFERENCES THAT MIDDLE INCOME
FOLKS USE, LIKE THE ONE YOU |
| 00:12:38 | MENTIONED A MINUTE -- A MOMENT
AGO. |
| 00:12:40 | PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, WE'RE GOING
TO START TAXING PRESCRIPTION |
| 00:12:43 | DRUGS IN THIS STATE?
PLEASE. |
| 00:12:45 | >> WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT
CUTTING THE STATE INCOME TAX, |
| 00:12:52 | YOU ALSO HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE
THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE |
| 00:12:55 | STATE, OR A DECISION NOT TO FUND
SCHOOLS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. |
| 00:13:00 | THAT FORCES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
TO SOMETIMES PROPOSE LEVIES. |
| 00:13:04 | DOESN'T THE TAX BURDEN JUST
SHIFT FROM THE STATE LEVEL DOWN |
| 00:13:06 | TO THE LOCAL LEVEL?
>> I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE |
| 00:13:10 | FACTOR.
I THINK STATE GOVERNMENT TO DO A |
| 00:13:12 | BETTER JOB OF CUTTING AND
SPENDING LESS. |
| 00:13:14 | THE UNDERLYING ASSUMPTION THAT
WE NEED TO GET TO IS THERE NEEDS |
| 00:13:18 | TO BE A FUNDAMENTAL RESET ABOUT
THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF |
| 00:13:21 | GOVERNMENT.
IF YOU LOOK AT ALL LEVELS OF |
| 00:13:24 | GOVERNMENT, STATE, LOCAL -- IT
DOESN'T MATTER WHICH LEVEL. |
| 00:13:27 | THEY'RE GROWING FASTER WITH
INFLATION IN EVERY CASE. |
| 00:13:31 | WHETHER IT'S STATE OR LOCAL
SPENDING, IT IS ALL GOING BEYOND |
| 00:13:35 | THE CAPACITY TO PAY FOR IT.
WE WILL HAVE TO FUNDAMENTALLY |
| 00:13:39 | RESET THAT AND ASK OURSELVES
WHETHER WE ARE WILLING TO PAY |
| 00:13:42 | HIGHER AND HIGHER TAXES TO FUND
MORE GOVERNMENT. |
| 00:13:44 | >> BUT PEOPLE LIKE HAVING LOCAL
CONTROL OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND |
| 00:13:49 | A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF POLICE AND
FIRE PROTECTION. |
| 00:13:52 | HOW DO YOU GET AROUND THESE
THINGS? |
| 00:13:53 | >> ONE OF THE THINGS THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IS DOING AND |
| 00:13:56 | WE BELIEVE WE SHOULD DO MORE OF,
IS INCENTIVIZING WAYS TO |
| 00:14:00 | PROVIDE QUALITY SERVICES.
WE HAVE THIS INDUSTRIAL MODEL OF |
| 00:14:03 | GOVERNMENT FROM LOCAL ALL THE
WAY TO THE STATE WHERE YOU HAVE |
| 00:14:06 | OLD WAYS OF DOING THINGS BY
JURISDICTION. |
| 00:14:09 | OHIO HAS MORE TAXING AUTHORITY
THAN ANY STATE IN THE COUNTRY |
| 00:14:12 | EXCEPT PENNSYLVANIA.
WE HAVE MORE GOVERNMENTS PER |
| 00:14:15 | PERSON THAN ANY STATE IN THE
UNION ACCEPTS ILLINOIS. |
| 00:14:18 | WE HAVE A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF
GOVERNMENT THAT WE PAY FOR. |
| 00:14:21 | IT IS TIME TO QUESTION HOW THOSE
GOVERNMENTS WORK. |
| 00:14:24 | AND VOTERS WILL HAVE TO COME UP
WITH SOME OF THAT COGNITIVE |
| 00:14:26 | DISSONANCE.
GOVERNMENTS WILL HAVE TO CHANGE |
| 00:14:33 | THE WAY THEY PROVIDE SERVICES IN
ORDER TO GIVE THEIR |
| 00:14:37 | CONSTITUENTS THE SERVICES
THEY'RE WILLING TO SPEND FOUR. |
| 00:14:41 | THAT HAPPENS BEST AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL. |
| 00:14:44 | IT WILL BE PAINFUL, BUT IT WILL
BE RESET ON THOSE SERVICES. |
| 00:14:49 | >> U.F. 13 TOWNSHIPS, 88
COUNTIES, MORE THAN 600 SCHOOL |
| 00:14:54 | DISTRICTS.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF TAXING |
| 00:14:56 | AUTHORITY.
>> I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH THAT |
| 00:14:58 | AT ALL, AND MAYBE WE NEED TO GET
RID OF SOME OF THOSE. |
| 00:15:00 | BUT EVEN AIDES THE BROADER
POINT. |
| 00:15:03 | YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE IN
MATHEMATICS GENIUS TO UNDERSTAND |
| 00:15:05 | WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CUT
SCHOOLS BY $180 BILLION. |
| 00:15:10 | MILLION DOLLARS.
YOU CUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUNDS |
| 00:15:16 | BY 50%.
THEN YOU ELIMINATE STATE TAXES. |
| 00:15:26 | WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU HAVE THESE
BALLOT INITIATIVES, LEVEES, LIKE |
| 00:15:29 | WE JUST DID IN SPECIAL ELECTIONS
THAT JUST OCCURRED. |
| 00:15:32 | >> 7% OF THE SCHOOL ISSUES.
>> THE MAYOR OF SHAKER HEIGHTS |
| 00:15:37 | IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
EVEN WEALTHY COMMUNITIES ARE NOT |
| 00:15:40 | EXEMPT.
WHAT THE MAYOR DID UP THERE IS |
| 00:15:43 | HE DID EVERYTHING GOVERNOR
KASICH AND MY FRIEND KEVIN WOULD |
| 00:15:48 | SAY HE SHOULD DO.
HE FROZE WAGES. |
| 00:15:50 | HE TRIPLED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
THE EMPLOYEES HAD TO PAY FOR |
| 00:15:53 | INSURANCE.
HE OUTSOURCE. |
| 00:15:54 | HE CONSOLIDATED.
HE LAID OFF 58 PEOPLE, INCLUDING |
| 00:15:58 | 10 POLICEMEN AND 14
FIREFIGHTERS. |
| 00:16:02 | AND HE STILL ENDED UP HAVING TO
ASK FOR A HALF PERCENT INCOME |
| 00:16:08 | TAX INCREASE.
WHY? |
| 00:16:10 | BECAUSE STATES COST SHAKER
HEIGHTS $600 MILLION. |
| 00:16:15 | IT IS RIDICULOUS FOR GOVERNOR
KASICH TO PARADE AROUND AS A BIG |
| 00:16:21 | TAX CUTTER.
ALL HE HAS DONE IS SHOW THE |
| 00:16:25 | RESPONSIBILITY DOWN TO THE LOCAL
LEVEL WHERE CITIES AND COUNTY |
| 00:16:28 | COMMISSIONERS AND MAYORS HAVE TO
ASK FOR LOCAL TAX INCREASES. |
| 00:16:31 | >> I THINK THAT IS A SORT OF
UNFAIR CATEGORIZATION OF IT. |
| 00:16:35 | IT IS A BLUNT INSTRUMENT.
THERE'LL BE SOME SITUATIONS |
| 00:16:41 | THAT SEEM INEQUITABLE.
COUNTIES HAVE DONE THE BEST THEY |
| 00:16:43 | CAN AND DID NOT SEEM TO GET A
FAIR SHAKE. |
| 00:16:46 | I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY TRUE.
BUT THE NORTHEAST OHIO |
| 00:16:49 | GOVERNMENT HAS GROWN AT A
RIDICULOUS RATE. |
| 00:16:51 | IT IS SEVEN TIMES THE POPULATION
GROWTH, 2.8 TIMES THE INFLATION |
| 00:16:55 | RATE, AND 2.4 TIMES THE ECONOMIC
OUTPUT. |
| 00:16:59 | THE RATE OF GOVERNMENT GROWTH IS
UNSUSTAINABLE. |
| 00:17:02 | SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE.
IF THE STATE WERE TO SIMPLY |
| 00:17:05 | CONTINUE THE STATUS QUO OF
SENDING MORE AND MORE MONEY BACK |
| 00:17:08 | TO THE LOCALITIES, THOSE
LOCALITIES WOULD NOT BE |
| 00:17:11 | MOTIVATED TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM.
AND A LOT OF THEM HAVE BEEN |
| 00:17:15 | RETICENT TO APPROACH ANY TYPE OF
RADICAL REORGANIZATION. |
| 00:17:18 | THEY DO NOT WANT TO SHARE
SERVICES. |
| 00:17:20 | THEY WILL TINKER AROUND THE
EDGES. |
| 00:17:22 | THEY DO NOT WANT TO LOOK AT THE
LABOR AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN |
| 00:17:25 | BAKED IN FOUR DECADES, NOT JUST
ONE OR TWO-YEAR CONTRACTS, BUT |
| 00:17:31 | U.S. IN THE RACE IS BAKED INTO
THE PAY RATE FOR DECADES. |
| 00:17:33 | HE CANNOT RESET THAT EASILY.
ONE BUDGET CYCLE, YOU CANNOT |
| 00:17:42 | JUST AUTOMATICALLY LEGALIZE IT.
IT WILL TAKE SOME PAIN TO |
| 00:17:46 | MOTIVATE PEOPLE TO CHANGE THE
SYSTEM. |
| 00:17:48 | >> THIS IS THE SAME OLD TIRED
CANARD THAT WE HEARD DURING THE |
| 00:17:52 | SENATE BILL 5 DEBATE.
AND THE ISSUE TO CAMPAIGN, IF |
| 00:17:55 | YOU REMEMBER.
-- THE ISSUE TWO CAMPAIGN, IF |
| 00:17:59 | YOU REMEMBER.
THEY ALWAYS SAY THE PROBLEM IS |
| 00:18:02 | THESE OVERPAID POLICE AND
FIREFIGHTERS. |
| 00:18:04 | I DO NOT KNOW ONE POLICEMAN OR A
FIREFIGHTER OR TEACHER THAT GOES |
| 00:18:08 | INTO THE BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY.
THE AVERAGE PENSION FOR |
| 00:18:12 | REPUBLICANS FULLY IN THIS STATE
IS $35,000 A YEAR. |
| 00:18:15 | ALL THEY WANT IS A MIDDLE-CLASS
EXISTENCE. |
| 00:18:17 | THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
WE WANT TO KEEP CUTTING TAXES |
| 00:18:21 | FOR THE WEALTHIEST FOLKS.
WE DO NOT WANT TO ASK THEM TO |
| 00:18:24 | PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE.
WE KEEP PUTTING THE BURDEN ON |
| 00:18:27 | MIDDLE-CLASS FOLKS, AND IT IS
WRONG. |
| 00:18:29 | >> THE BUCKEYE INSTITUTE JOINED
WITH GREATER OHIO AND THE CENTER |
| 00:18:33 | FOR COMMUNITY SOLUTIONS, WHICH
IS A MORE PROGRESSIVE RESEARCH |
| 00:18:36 | ORGANIZATION, IN PROPOSING A
BUNCH OF EXPENDITURE LOOPHOLE |
| 00:18:40 | CLOSURES, SO TO SPEAK.
WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THAT AS |
| 00:18:43 | YOU GAVE TESTIMONY ON THIS AND
SUGGESTED THESE IDEAS, STATE |
| 00:18:46 | LAWMAKERS ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH
NEW EXPENDITURES AND NEW |
| 00:18:50 | CREDITS, THE MOTION PICTURE TAX
CREDIT. |
| 00:18:53 | THEY EXPANDED -- EXTENDED THAT.
PROPERTY-TAX EXEMPTIONS FOR |
| 00:18:58 | CONVENTION CENTERS IN COLUMBUS
AND YOUNGSTOWN. |
| 00:19:00 | A TAX EXEMPTION EXTENDED TO SOME
CULTURAL CENTERS. |
| 00:19:03 | WHAT IS GOING ON THAT THEY ARE
NOT ONLY DID NOT DO SOME OF THE |
| 00:19:07 | THINGS YOU SUGGESTED, BUT
ACTUALLY TREATED MORE |
| 00:19:10 | EXEMPTIONS?
>> UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS HUMAN |
| 00:19:12 | NATURE.
THE SYSTEM IS SET UP THAT WAY. |
| 00:19:15 | BUSINESSES LIKE TARGETED TAX
CREDITS, BECAUSE IT HELPS THEM. |
| 00:19:19 | PARTICULARLY LARGER BUSINESSES
THAT HAVE A STAFF TO REAP THE |
| 00:19:21 | BENEFITS.
SMALL BUSINESSES OFTEN DO NOT. |
| 00:19:26 | THE OTHER THING ABOUT STAFF --
TAX EXPENDITURES IS THAT |
| 00:19:29 | POLITICIANS IMMEDIATELY GET
CREDIT. |
| 00:19:30 | EPACT IS THIS A BIG BILL THAT
GIVES A TAX CREDIT, YOU CAN GO |
| 00:19:36 | BACK TO THE DISTRICT AND SAY,
LOOK, I PASS THIS BILL THAT |
| 00:19:39 | HELPS COMPANY ACT.
IT IS A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION. |
| 00:19:44 | THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT DOES NOT
HELP THE SYSTEM LONG TERM. |
| 00:19:48 | IT DOES NOT MAKE FOR A FLATTER,
MORE BROADBASED SYSTEM. |
| 00:19:52 | THE PROBLEM THAT POLITICIANS
BASE IS THE PRESSURE POLITICALLY |
| 00:19:55 | TO ACT IN THE SHORT TERM.
WE HAVE TO MAKE THE STRONG CASE |
| 00:19:59 | THAT A SIMPLER, BROADER TAX
SYSTEM WILL HELP OHIO IN THE |
| 00:20:02 | LONG TERM.
THAT IS THE MESSAGE WE HAVE TO |
| 00:20:05 | GET ACROSS TO POLITICIANS.
IT WILL KEEP THEM FROM SEEING |
| 00:20:09 | THE CAR-OUTS AS BENEFICIAL IN
THE LONG TERM. |
| 00:20:11 | -- THE CARVED-OUTS AS BENEFICIAL
IN THE LONG TERM. |
| 00:20:19 | THAT IS THE TRANSACTION THAT HAS
TO HAPPEN. |
| 00:20:25 | THOSE THAT ARE GETTING A SPECIAL
BENEFITS WILL GIVE THOSE UP IN |
| 00:20:28 | RETURN FOR A LOWER, MORE SIMPLE
TAX SYSTEM. |
| 00:20:32 | >> BUT WILL THAT BE ENOUGH TO
OFFSET THE TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT |
| 00:20:36 | THAT WOULD BE ON MIDDLE INCOME
PEOPLE AND LOWER INCOME PEOPLE? |
| 00:20:39 | >> AND THAT IS THE POINT.
NO, IT WILL NOT. |
| 00:20:43 | IT IS JUST LIKE WHAT MITT ROMNEY
IS DOING AND WHAT ALL RYAN WANTS |
| 00:20:46 | TO DO AT THE FEDERAL LEVAL.
-- THE FEDERAL LEVEL. |
| 00:20:51 | AT THE NON-PARTISAN TAX POLICY
CENTER, WHEN THEY STUDIED IT, |
| 00:20:59 | THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH LOOPHOLES
FOR JUST THE WEALTHY. |
| 00:21:02 | YOU GOT TO GO INTO THE MORTGAGE
DEDUCTIONS, THE CHARITABLE |
| 00:21:05 | DEDUCTION, ALL OF THOSE THINGS
THAT HURT MIDDLE INCOME FOLKS. |
| 00:21:07 | I DO NOT DISAGREE THAT THE IDEA
OF GETTING RID OF LOOPHOLES IS A |
| 00:21:11 | BAD IDEA.
BUT I WOULD SAY THIS. |
| 00:21:14 | LOOK, THIS IS THE FUNDAMENTAL
PROBLEM. |
| 00:21:17 | WHEN WE DID THE TAX CUT THAT YOU
TALKED ABOUT, A FIVE-YEAR, 21%, |
| 00:21:22 | IF YOU'RE EARNING OVER $360,000
A YEAR AND YOU'RE IN THE TOP 1% |
| 00:21:27 | COMMODORE TAX IS DEAD THOUSAND
DOLLARS PER YEAR. |
| 00:21:30 | BUT IF YOUR MIDDLE-INCOME, YOU
GET $160. |
| 00:21:32 | -- IN THE TOP 1%, YOUR TAX CUT
IS $10,000 PER YEAR. |
| 00:21:40 | BUT IF YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE
INCOME, YOU GET $160. |
| 00:21:44 | WHAT IF WE GET A TAX FREEZE ON
MIDDLE-INCOME FOLKS? |
| 00:21:47 | IF WE WENT BACK TO THE PRE-2005
7.5% INCOME RATE ON $200,000 |
| 00:21:55 | ABOVE -- AND ABOVE, YOU COULD
RAISE $1 BILLION DOING THAT WITH |
| 00:22:03 | NO HARM TO THE MIDDLE-INCOME
FOLKS IN THIS STATE AT ALL. |
| 00:22:06 | MAYBE THEN WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO
HAVE ALL OF THESE BALLOTS LEVIES |
| 00:22:10 | YEAR AFTER YEAR.
>> WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT OF |
| 00:22:12 | SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
>> THE PROBLEM WITH WHAT BILL |
| 00:22:14 | WANTS TO DO IS HAVING DIFFERENT
VALUES. |
| 00:22:19 | THE RICH PEOPLE HAVE ONE VALUE
AND POOR PEOPLE HAVE ANOTHER |
| 00:22:22 | VALUE AND MIDDLE INCOME HAVE A
DIFFERENT VALUE. |
| 00:22:25 | WE ARE TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE
WORK. |
| 00:22:29 | A DOLLAR IS THE DOLLAR, RIGHT?
IF THE ECONOMY IS GROWING, IF SO |
| 00:22:33 | I WAS ATTRACTING PEOPLE AND
BUSINESSES, THE ECONOMY WILL |
| 00:22:36 | GROW AND WE WILL ALL BENEFIT.
WHAT IS INTERESTING IS IF YOU |
| 00:22:40 | LOOK AT THE STATE WITH NO INCOME
TAXES OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, |
| 00:22:44 | NOT ONLY DID THEY HAVE HIGHER
GROWTH AND MORE POPULATION |
| 00:22:46 | INFLOW AS WE HAD AN ECONOMIC
DEGREES AND POPULATION OUT |
| 00:22:50 | MIGRATION, BUT THEY ALSO HAD TAX
INCREASES. |
| 00:22:54 | AS THE ECONOMY GROWS, YOU TAKE
IN MORE TAXES. |
| 00:22:57 | WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE WORK AND
INVESTMENT AND LEAVE OUT CLASS |
| 00:23:01 | WARFARE.
IF YOU GET PENALIZED FOR MAKING |
| 00:23:07 | THE EXTRA DOLLAR, THEN YOU'RE
NOT GOING TO DO IT. |
| 00:23:09 | IF EVENTUALLY THE TAX RATES ARE
PENALIZING TO SUCH AN EXTENT |
| 00:23:14 | THAT IT IS MORE ATTRACTIVE TO
LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU WILL |
| 00:23:17 | MOVE.
OHIO HAS DONE THAT. |
| 00:23:18 | WE HAVE CHASE PEOPLE OUT OF THE
ECONOMY. |
| 00:23:22 | THE POINT IS TO GROW THE ECONOMY
AND NOT TO DIVVY UP WINNERS AND |
| 00:23:25 | LOSERS BASED ON WHO IS IN THE
MIDDLE CLASS AND WHO IS RICH. |
| 00:23:29 | >> WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO
CANNOT AFFORD TO MOVE? |
| 00:23:31 | WHAT ABOUT THOSE WERE NOT THE
JOB CREATORS? |
| 00:23:34 | >> I THINK THEY HAVE GOT LOST
HERE. |
| 00:23:36 | A GROWING ECONOMY IS FUNDED BY
THOSE VITAL PROGRAMS. |
| 00:23:40 | YOU CANNOT MANDATE PROSPERITY.
YOU CANNOT JUST SAY EVERYBODY |
| 00:23:43 | MAKES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
DOLLARS WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF |
| 00:23:47 | BENEFITS.
PEOPLE MAKE CHOICES BASED ON |
| 00:23:50 | WHERE IT IS BEST TO INVEST AND
WORK. |
| 00:23:53 | OHIO NEEDS TO BE A PLACE WHERE
WE ATTRACT INVESTMENT AND WORK. |
| 00:23:56 | IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATE WITH NO
INCOME TAX, IF YOU LOOK AT |
| 00:24:01 | STATES WITH THE RIGHT TO WORK,
THAT IS WHERE PEOPLE LIVE AND |
| 00:24:04 | WORK AND START BUSINESSES.
WE NEED TO BE A PLACE THAT DOES |
| 00:24:07 | THAT.
THAT IS WHERE WE WILL ATTRACT |
| 00:24:10 | THE GROWTH.
AND BY THE WAY, I DO NOT THINK |
| 00:24:12 | GOVERNOR KASICH IS GOING TO
PROPOSE SOME MAGIC SOLUTION |
| 00:24:17 | WHERE YOU JUST HAVE TO MAGICALLY
GET RID OF THE INCOME TAX. |
| 00:24:19 | I DO NOT THINK HE BELIEVES THAT.
THEY KNOW THE NUMBERS. |
| 00:24:23 | THERE WILL HAVE TO BE CUTS TO
SPENDING. |
| 00:24:24 | THERE WILL HAVE TO BE
ADJUSTMENTS. |
| 00:24:26 | IT IS A LONG-TERM PROCESS.
YOU CANNOT MAGICALLY WAVING AWAY |
| 00:24:30 | THE EXPENDITURES AND COVER THE
INCOME TAX HOLE. |
| 00:24:33 | CUTS AND RESTRAINT ARE A
NECESSARY PART OF THAT. |
| 00:24:35 | >> LET ME JUST MAKE ONE SHORT.
, BECAUSE I DID NOT REALIZE MY |
| 00:24:41 | FRIEND KEVIN WAS GOING TO
FILIBUSTER FOR SO LONG. |
| 00:24:45 | HE USED THE TERM CLASS WARFARE.
THE TRUTH IS, WE'VE HAD A CLASS |
| 00:24:50 | WAR GOING ON FOR A NUMBER OF
YEARS, BUT ONLY ONE SIDE HAS |
| 00:24:53 | BEEN FIGHTING, KEVIN'S SIDE.
AND THEY HAVE BEEN WINNING. |
| 00:24:56 | WE HAVE INCREASED PRODUCTIVITY
IN THIS NATION BY 80% SINCE |
| 00:25:01 | 1979, BUT MIDDLE-INCOME WAGES
HAVE BEEN FLAT. |
| 00:25:04 | VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE INCREASE IN
THAT PRODUCTIVITY, THE WAGE |
| 00:25:08 | INCREASE HAS GONE TO THE TOP 1%.
WHEN WE CUT TAXES IN THE STATE |
| 00:25:13 | BY 21% IN 2005, 40% OF THE
BENEFITS WENT TO THE TOP 5%. |
| 00:25:19 | THIS IS NOT FAIR.
THERE IS A FAIRNESS ARGUMENT |
| 00:25:22 | HERE.
I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT NO |
| 00:25:25 | MATTER HOW MUCH YOU CUT TAXES
FOR THE WEALTHY, THEY SIMPLY |
| 00:25:28 | CANNOT BUY ENOUGH TO GET THE
ECONOMY MOVING AGAIN. |
| 00:25:32 | WE'VE GOT TO INCREASE THE SHARE
THAT MIDDLE INCOME PEOPLE HAVE |
| 00:25:35 | AND THAT LOWER INCOME PEOPLE
HAVE, BECAUSE THEY WILL SPEND |
| 00:25:39 | IT.
THEY WILL BUY A NEW WASHING |
| 00:25:40 | MACHINES, CARS, DRIVERS, AND
THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO GET AT |
| 00:25:44 | OUR STATE MOVING AT THE STATE
LEVEL AND THE NATIONAL LEVEL. |
| 00:25:49 | >> WILL HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE
FOR NOW. |
| 00:25:50 | >> AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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