00:00:00>> SUPPORT FOR THE STATE WIDE
BROADCAST OF "THE STATE OF OHIO"
00:00:17COMES FROM --
HELPING INDIVIDUALS AND
00:00:23BUSINESSES SOLVE COMPLEX LEGAL
PROBLEMS ACROSS OHIO AND THE
00:00:29U.S.
AND THE OHIO EDUCATION
00:00:32ASSOCIATION, WORKING FOR GREAT
PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR EVERY CHILD.
00:00:37ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IS MADE
POSSIBLE BY THE LUPRIZOL
00:00:47FOUNDATION .
ELECTION, AND THE PRESIDENTIAL
00:00:52CANDIDATES ARE BACK IN OHIO.
THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS
00:00:54FALLING, BUT RECENT EVENTS ARE
RAISING CONCERNS FOR LOW-INCOME
00:00:56OHIOANS.
AND A CONSERVATIVE CRITICS OF
00:00:58DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS BLASTS
GOVERNORS, LAWMAKERS,
00:01:00JOURNALISTS, AND MORE IN A NEW
BOOK THAT ALSO OFFERS HIS
00:01:03PROPOSED SOLUTIONS.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:01:07OHIO".
>> ONCE AGAIN, OHIO WAS THE
00:01:12CENTER OF THE PRESIDENTIAL
CAMPAIGN THIS WEEK.
00:01:13PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS IN
CINCINNATI ON MONDAY, AND MITT
00:01:16ROMNEY WAS IN BOWLING GREEN ON
WEDNESDAY.
00:01:18PRESIDENT OBAMA'S RE-ELECTION
CAMPAIGN JOINED OHIO DEMOCRATS
00:01:23IN A FEDERAL LAWSUIT TO TRY TO
REINSTATE THE THREE DAYS OF
00:01:26EARLY IN PERSON VOTING BEFORE
ELECTION DAY.
00:01:29THE DEMOCRATS ARGUE THE
REPUBLICAN-PASSED CHANGES THAT
00:01:33SHORTENED THE EARLY VOTING
WINDOW UNFAIRLY ENDS VOTING FOR
00:01:36MOST OHIOANS ON THE FRIDAY
NIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION,
00:01:38WHILE ALLOWING MILITARY AND
OVERSEAS VOTERS TO CAST A BALLOT
00:01:42IN PERSON UNTIL MONDAY.
MEANWHILE, SECRETARY OF STATE
00:01:46JON HUSTED SAYS THE GROUP THAT
WANTS TO TAKE THE PROCESS OF
00:01:49DRAWING MAPS FOR LAWMAKERS'
DISTRICTS OUT OF ELECTED
00:01:53OFFICIALS' HANDS HAS FAILED A
FIRST STEP TO GET ITS PROPOSAL
00:01:56TO THE BALLOT.
HUSTED SAYS VOTERS FIRST IS MORE
00:01:59THAN 130,000 SIGNATURES SHY OF
THE ROUGHLY 385,000 VALID
00:02:04SIGNATURES NEEDED TO GET THE
PLAN BEFORE VOTERS IN NOVEMBER.
00:02:07THE GROUP, WHICH WANTS TO
CREATE A 12-MEMBER CITIZENS
00:02:10COMMISSION TO DRAW THE MAPS, HAS
UNTIL JULY 28, AND A
00:02:14SPOKESPERSON SAYS THE GROUP
NEVER STOPPED COLLECTING
00:02:19SIGNATURES AFTER FILING, SO IT
DOES HAVE MORE TO SUBMIT.
00:02:22BY THE WAY, THE ELECTION IS
FOUR MONTHS AWAY, AND ALREADY
00:02:25THE US SENATE RACE IN OHIO IS
THE MOST EXPENSIVE ONE IN STATE
00:02:28HISTORY, ADDING UP TO $25
MILLION.
00:02:30DEMOCRATIC INCUMBENT SHERROD
BROWN BROUGHT IN $3 MILLION
00:02:34BETWEEN APRIL 1 AND THE END OF
JUNE TO A TOTAL OF $15.4
00:02:38MILLION.
REPUBLICAN STATE TREASURER JOSH
00:02:41MANDEL HAS RAISED $9.9 MILLION,
A LITTLE OVER $2.5 MILLION OF
00:02:45THAT FROM APRIL THROUGH JUNE.
THE STATE'S UNEMPLOYMENT RATE
00:02:49HAS BEEN STEADILY DROPPING OVER
THE LAST THREE YEARS, FROM ITS
00:02:53RECENT HIGH OF 11.2 IN JULY
2009 TO 7.2 PERCENT IN JUNE, A
00:02:56FULL PERCENTAGE POINT BELOW THE
NATIONAL AVERAGE AND THE
00:03:02STATE'S LOWEST RATE SINCE
SEPTEMBER 2008.
00:03:04BUT 15 PERCENT OF OHIOANS, MORE
THAN 1.8 MILLION, ARE ON FOOD
00:03:10STAMPS.
AND NEARLY 2.2 MILLION LIVE IN
00:03:14POVERTY, BOTH OF THOSE FIGURES
ARE ACCORDING TO THE KAISER
00:03:16FAMILY FOUNDATION.
AND RECENT EVENTS ARE JUST
00:03:19ADDING TO THE MISERY.
HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S FACING
00:03:22LOW-INCOME OHIOANS THIS SUMMER
AND FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR
00:03:24ARE LISA HAMLER FUGITT,
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE OHIO
00:03:27ASSOCIATION OF SECOND HARVEST
FOOD BANKS, MARY JO MACE
00:03:29WOODBURN WITH THE OHIO BENEFIT
BANK, AND BEN JOHNSON, WHO'S
00:03:32WITH THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF JOB
AND FAMILY SERVICES.
00:03:34>> THERE IS A LOT OF OF EVENTS
TO TALK ABOUT THAT HAPPENING.
00:03:44START WITH THE RECENT STORMS.
WE HAD STORMS THAT KNOCKED OUT
00:03:48POWER FOR MANY, MANY DAYS.
WHAT ARE SOME STORIES YOU HEARD?
00:03:53>> IT WAS A CATASTROPHE.
WHAT WE HAD WAS NEARLY HALF OF
00:03:57THE STATE WAS WITHOUT POWER.
SOME 1 MILLION HOUSEHOLDS LOST
00:04:03POWER.
NOT JUST FOR A FEW DAYS.
00:04:06MANY WERE OUT FOR A WEEK OR
MORE.
00:04:09WE HAD FOOD BANKS THAT WERE
LOSING POWER, FOOD THAT WAS IN
00:04:16COLD STORAGE.
WHILE WE HAD WERE INDIVIDUAL
00:04:20VOLUNTEERS FREEZING THEIR OWN
ECONOMIC CRISIS WITH THE POWER
00:04:25OUTAGE.
THE FOOD AT ALL SPOILED.
00:04:30BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT WE'RE
SEEING OUR FAMILIES STRUGGLING
00:04:36TO KEEP OUR ROOF OVER THEIR
HEADS, WITH NOT MUCH
00:04:43DISCRETIONARY INCOME.
WHEN THEY LOST THEIR FOOD, THAT
00:04:46CREATED A HUGE, HUGE PROBLEM FOR
THEM.
00:04:49MORE IMPORTANTLY, A LOT OF
FAMILIES WORKED FOR WORKERS WHO
00:04:54ALSO LOST THEIR POWER.
WITHOUT POWER, THEY DON'T GET A
00:04:59PAYCHECK.
>> NOW, THEN, THE STATE DID JUMP
00:05:09IN TO HELP SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE LOST FOOD.
00:05:14>> WE DID.
WE MOVED AS QUICKLY AS WE COULD
00:05:17TO HELP FAMILIES WERE LYING ON
FOOD ASSISTANCE.
00:05:21WE ASKED THE GOVERNMENT FOR A
WAIVER THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO
00:05:24GIVE A PRO RATED AMOUNT OF
BENEFITS TO PEOPLE WHO HAD GONE
00:05:28SHOPPING, LOST POWER, AND LOST
THE FOOD.
00:05:31WE PROVIDED $10 MILLION TO
180,000 FAMILIES.
00:05:37>> THIS IS PRETTY MUCH ACROSS
THE BOARD.
00:05:39THIS WAS TARGETED RIGHT FOR
THOSE COUNTIES, JUST TO TAKE
00:05:44CARE OF PEOPLE AS IT WAS
HAPPENING?
00:05:45>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
EVERY FAMILY IN THOSE 34
00:05:49COUNTIES GOT THAT ASSISTANCE.
HOPEFULLY, THEY HAD ENOUGH
00:05:55ASSISTANCE COMING IN WAS THE
POWER CAME BACK ON TO GO OUT AND
00:05:58SHOP.
>> WHAT ABOUT TRYING TO KEEP
00:06:03EVERYONE IN THE NETWORK AND
BRING PEOPLE BACK ON TO DEAL
00:06:06WITH ALL THIS?
>> WE HAVE A SELF SERVICE
00:06:16MODULE.
WE HAD A NUMBER OF CLIENTS
00:06:21CALLING IN, TRYING TO FIND OUT
WHERE THE TO GET EMERGENCY FOOD.
00:06:26TRY TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY COULD
APPLY FOR FOOD STAMPS.
00:06:29THEIR WORK A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE
LYING ON THAT PAYCHECK FOR THAT
00:06:36MONTH THAT WERE REALLY FALLING
BEHIND.
00:06:39>> WE ARE FACING WHAT COULD BE
THE WORST DROUGHT SINCE THE
00:06:451920'S PERHAPS.
THAT HAS AN IMPACT NOT ONLY ON
00:06:48THE ABILITY TO BUY FOOD, BUT ON
THE FOOD BANK'S ABILITY TO
00:06:52PROVIDE FOOD.
>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
00:06:56TO LAST YEAR, WE MOVED 3 MILLION
POUNDS.
00:07:01WE WOULD BE ON PACE, IF THIS
WERE A NON-DROUGHT YEAR, TO BE
00:07:14AROUND 2 MILLION POUNDS, UP 1.5
MILLION POUNDS PER WEEK.
00:07:19AND IT IS NOT THEIR.
ARE FARMERS -- AGAIN, THESE ARE
00:07:25FARMERS WHO HAVE WORKED THESE
FARMS ALL THEIR LIVES.
00:07:29THEY HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING
LIKE THIS.
00:07:31THERE ARE AGRICULTURAL
ECONOMISTS SAYING THIS IS THE
00:07:35THIRD WORST DROUGHT OF THE
CENTURY.
00:07:37WILL WE ARE SEEING IS -- WHAT WE
ARE SEEING IS NEARLY 55% OF
00:07:47ALLSTATE ARE A MODERATE TO
SEVERE DROUGHT.
00:07:51AND AGAIN, CORN IS NOT JUST FOOD
SOURCES, BUT IT IS ALSO
00:08:00LIVESTOCK AND FUEL SOURCES.
WE HAVE FOOD MANUFACTURERS WHO
00:08:07WILL NOT PUT THEIR PRICES FOR
MORE THAN 60 DAYS BECAUSE OF THE
00:08:13UNCERTAINTY OF THE MARKET.
>> IS THEIR SAFETY IF PRICES GO
00:08:17UP?
>> NO.
00:08:20WE RECEIVED THE CURRENT -- THE
CURRENT FARM BILL'S BONUS MONEY.
00:08:29THAT IS ABOUT $5 MILLION OF
ADDITIONAL HELP.
00:08:32BUT NO, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL
MONEY FOR THIS KIND OF DROP.
00:08:36WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE MIGHT NOT
REALIZE IS WHAT WE PARTNER WITH
00:08:41THE FOOD BANKS ON IS THE
AGRICULTURAL CLEARANCE PROGRAM.
00:08:44WE NEGOTIATE FOR THEM TO BUY AT
A VERY LOW-COST SURPLUS CROPS.
00:08:49BUT THERE MAY NOT BE SURPLUS
CROPS.
00:08:53>> ARE THEY COMING TO YOU TO
FIND OUT WHAT OTHER ASSISTANCE
00:08:59THEY CAN GET?
CAN THEY GET ASSISTANCE FOR
00:09:01OTHER THINGS TO TRY TO SPREAD
BENEFITS AND THE MONEY THAT I
00:09:06HAVE AROUND?
>> WHEN YOU APPLY FOR ONE
00:09:10PROGRAM, YOUR INFORMATION GOES
TO 20 OTHER APPLICATIONS SO YOU
00:09:17CAN SUBMIT THOSE AND FIND OUT IF
THERE ARE OTHER BENEFITS THAT
00:09:19WILL HELP YOU BUDGETING.
JUST THINK ABOUT ANY HOUSEHOLD.
00:09:24WITH KIDS, I'M SURE THEY HAVE
APPLESAUCE IN THE FRIDGE.
00:09:29I'M SURE THEY HAVE APPLES
SITTING OUT.
00:09:32THINK OF A NICE, CHEAP, FRUIT,
AND WE HAVE LOST 70% OF THE
00:09:39APPLE CROP.
>> THE FARM BILL THAT YOU
00:09:42MENTIONED THERE -- WHEN THERE
ARE CHANGES IN THE FARM BILL
00:09:47THAT ARE NOT GOING TO GO VERY
WELL FOR YOU, LISA?
00:09:49>> IT HAS TO BE REAUTHORIZE.
THE SENATE HAS PASSED A VERSION
00:09:57OF THE FARM BILL WITH $4 BILLION
OF CUTS TO THE PROGRAM.
00:10:02THE HOUSE AGRICULTURAL
COMMITTEE HAD PROPOSALS TO CUT.
00:10:09SOME $16 BILLION CUT OUT OF THE
FARM BILL.
00:10:13IF THAT VERSION IS ENACTED, THE
LOSS OF THE FOOD STAMPS BENEFITS
00:10:19FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS WOULD BE
NEARLY $879 MILLION.
00:10:27THE FAMILIES WHO RELY ON THIS
CRITICAL NUTRITIONAL LIFE LINE
00:10:33WILL HAVE FEWER BENEFITS.
NO FARM BILL IN THE PAST 75
00:10:40YEARS HAVE BEEN -- HAS BEEN AS
PARTISAN AS THIS ONE.
00:10:45>> ALL THESE THINGS TOGETHER.
>> IT IS A PERFECT STORM.
00:10:52IT IS VERY, VERY SCARY.
WE HEAR IT EVERY DAY, THAT OUR
00:11:02ECONOMY IS SPUTTERING ALONG.
THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE ABLE
00:11:08TO PROVIDE AND GET PEOPLE BACK
TO WORK.
00:11:11WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF GROUND TO
MAKE UP.
00:11:17WHAT THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE
APPEARS TO BE FINE, WE HAVE AN
00:11:23INCREASE IN POLICY RATES.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU.
00:11:28THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE HAS BEEN
DROPPING.
00:11:31ARE YOU SEEING THE EFFECT OF
THAT IN JOBS AND FAMILY
00:11:35SERVICES?
>> YOU KNOW, IT HASN'T HAD A
00:11:40SIGNIFICANT EFFECT WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF UNEMPLOYMENT
00:11:46COMPENSATION.
I ALWAYS CAVEAT THE GOOD
00:11:53UNEMPLOYMENT NEWS.
AND IT IS GOOD UNEMPLOYMENT
00:11:55NEWS.
THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER.
00:11:56BUT THERE ARE STILL AN AWFUL LOT
OF PEOPLE LOOKING FOR WORK.
00:12:01THERE ARE AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE
GOING TO FAMILY SERVICES FOR
00:12:06HELP.
>> THEY FELL OFF THE
00:12:09UNEMPLOYMENT ROLLS, SO TO SPEAK?
>> THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
00:12:14OR MAYBE THEY HAD SAVINGS OR
SEVERANCE PACKAGE.
00:12:18>> I WANT TO ASK YOU A FINAL
QUESTION HERE -- ARE YOU SEEING
00:12:23ANY CHANGES AT THE BENEFITS
BANK?
00:12:29ARE THEY COMING IN IN THE SAME
AMOUNT?
00:12:30>> ABSOLUTELY.
WE CONTINUE TO GROW WITH THE
00:12:34NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS RECEIVED.
WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE WHO WERE
00:12:39ALWAYS HIT THE HARDEST IN
ECONOMIC CHANGE.
00:12:43WHEN THIS RECESSION CAME ON,
THEY JUST GOT HIT ALL THE MORE.
00:12:50THEY HAD NO RESOURCES, NO
SAVINGS TO FALL BACK ON.
00:12:54NOTES 41 K -- NO 401K'S.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THE IMPACTS
00:13:06WILL BE FELT FOR VERY LONG TIME.
IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS GOING TO
00:13:11BE LIKE THAT FOR A VERY LONG
TIME.
00:13:14>> UNFORTUNATELY.
AND AGAIN, IT IS THE
00:13:19UNCERTAINTY.
IT IS PRETTY WELL THE LAST OF
00:13:25THE FISCAL YEAR AND THE RAINY
DAY FUND.
00:13:27CONGRESS NEEDS TO MAKE SOME
DIFFICULT CHOICES.
00:13:34UNFORTUNATELY, CUTTING THE FIRST
LINE OF DEFENSE COME UP WITH 46
00:13:42MILLION PEOPLE RELYING ON THE
FOOD STAMP PROGRAM, IS NOT THE
00:13:46RIGHT MOVE.
>> WOULD YOU ENCOURAGE PEOPLE
00:13:50WHO DO QUALIFY FOR FOOD STAMPS
TO APPLY FOR THEM?
00:13:52YOU HAVE SOME BACKLASH COMING
FROM THAT.
00:13:55WILL THAT HURT THE PROGRAM IN
THE LONG RUN?
00:14:00BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TALK
ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF THE
00:14:03PROGRAM -- >> WILL NEED TO DO IS
TALK ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF THE
00:14:07PROGRAM.
WE HAVE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE.
00:14:10WE HAVE THIS NUTRITIONAL SAFETY
NET.
00:14:14YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE IT IS
CONGRESS'S MOST HEAVILY-
00:14:21REGULATED PROGRAM.
WE ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE
00:14:25HIGHEST INTEGRITY.
I WANT TO APPLAUD THE OHIO
00:14:30DEPARTMENT OF JOBS AND FAMILY
SERVICES.
00:14:32WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO ARE
ELIGIBLE FOR THESE PROGRAMS, ARE
00:14:37ABLE TO APPLY --
>> IT IS A TOUGH MESSAGE THOUGH.
00:14:47APPLY IF YOU NEED IT.
BUT THEN YOU DO NOT WANT PEOPLE
00:14:49TO BE ON FOOD STAMPS.
>> I THINK THE KEY IS, IT IS
00:14:53DESIGNED TO BE TEMPORARY.
THE PROGRAM WORKS BEST WHEN IT
00:14:57IS TEMPORARY.
WHEN WE MAKE IT TEMPORARY BY
00:15:01FOCUSING ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT
SERVICES, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE
00:15:03BACK TO WORK.
THAT BEING SAID, THE PROGRAM IS
00:15:07THERE FOR A REASON.
FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING,
00:15:09WE WANT THEM TO APPLY.
>> YES, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THOSE
00:15:16FOLKS WHO APPLY, WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT FAMILIES THAT WOULD MUCH
00:15:21RATHER BE LIVING ABOVE 130% OF
POVERTY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THEY
00:15:28ARE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THAT KIND
OF MONEY RIGHT NOW.
00:15:29WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE COMMENTS,
IT HAS BEEN REALLY BRUTAL FOR
00:15:39FOLKS WHO REALLY FEEL THAT
STIGMA.
00:15:41I'M GLAD THAT'S ONE OF THE
THINGS THE FOOD BANK IS ABLE TO
00:15:47OFFER IS SO THEY CAN APPLY
ONLINE SAID THEY DO NOT HAVE TO
00:15:52GO TO ANOTHER AGENCY, BUT THEY
DO NOT HAVE TO SHARE
00:15:55INFORMATION.
>> ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT YOU
00:16:00WORK WITH TALKS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO
ARE IN NEED OF IT?
00:16:06>> THEY DO NOT KNOW WHERE THEIR
NEXT MEAL IS COMING FROM.
00:16:11THERE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
OHIO DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
00:16:15THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF
EDUCATION, WE HAVE GOT SUMMER
00:16:21FOOD SERVICE PROGRAMS OPERATING.
THEY HAVE IMPLEMENTED A
00:16:25WONDERFUL TAKEN GROCERY PROGRAM
FOR KIDS WHO ARE ABLE TO TAKE
00:16:30HOME FAMILY FOOD, SO THEY CAN
HAVE FOOD OVER THE WEEKEND.
00:16:35THEY ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
PUBLIC AND PRIVATE.
00:16:40>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
00:16:47>> WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.
>> FOR YEARS, MY NEXT GUEST HAS
00:16:59BEEN ON THE SHOW OFFERING A
ISSUES IN OHIO, FROM PENSION
00:17:02REFORM TO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
TO GOVERNMENT SPENDING, AS
00:17:04PRESIDENT OF THE BUCKEYE
INSTITUTE, A SELF-DESCRIBED
00:17:06FREE MARKET THINK TANK.
MATT MAYER, WHO LEFT THE
00:17:10BUCKEYE INSTITUTE LAST YEAR, HAS
NOW WRITTEN DOWN THOSE VIEWS
00:17:12INTO A BOOK WITH AN ATTENTION
GETTING TITLE -- "TAXPAYERS
00:17:16DON'T STAND A CHANCE: WHY
BATTLEGROUND OHIO LOSES NO
00:17:19MATTER WHO WINS (AND WHAT TO DO
ABOUT IT)".
00:17:21MAYER IS NOW A VISITING FELLOW
AT THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION AND
00:17:27RUNS A CONSULTING FIRM BASED IN
DUBLIN OUTSIDE COLUMBUS.
00:17:30AND HE'S HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE
BOOK.
00:17:31FIRST OF ALL, I NEED TO STATE
NORMALLY WHEN YOU ARE ON THE
00:17:38SHOW, YOU ARE HERE SOMEWHERE --
BUT SOMEONE ELSE WITH A
00:17:42DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW.
THIS DOES NOT MEAN I AGREE OR
00:17:46DISAGREE WITH YOU --
>> REALLY?
00:17:49>> WE KNOW THAT.
SO, LET'S LOOK AT THE OVERALL
00:17:55POINT THAT YOU MAKE IN THE BOOK
-- THAT IS THE STATE AND LOCAL
00:17:59GOVERNMENTS SPEND TOO MUCH MONEY
IN THE ECONOMY AND OHIO IS
00:18:05MIRED IN FISCAL ISSUES.
ARE YOU IMPLYING THAT LAWMAKERS
00:18:12AND POLITICIANS AND UNIONS ARE
CONTRIBUTING TO A BROKEN SYSTEM?
00:18:15AND VOTERS HAVE ALLOWED THE
SPECS ARE JOURNALISTS LAZY?
00:18:20WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?
>> THE FIRST AND LAST FOR.
00:18:26NOT THE VOTERS ARE STUPID PART.
THE VOTERS DO NOT HAVE THE
00:18:29INFORMATION THEY NEED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC
00:18:35RECORD OF OHIO, AT THE TAX
RECORD OF OHIO, AND STATE WHAT
00:18:41YOU HAVE IS A SYSTEM THAT
BENEFITS TAXPAYERS?
00:18:44>> YOU TAKE ON GOVERNOR'S --
GOVERNORS, REPUBLICANS AND
00:18:54DEMOCRATS, AND SAY EFFECTIVELY
THEY ARE ALL GETTING IT WRONG.
00:18:58HOW ARE THEY ALL GETTING IT
WRONG?
00:19:00>> GOVERNMENT SPENDING IS GOING
UP YEAR ON YEAR.
00:19:05FOR THAT TO NOT BE THE CASE, WE
WOULD HAVE NEEDED GOVERNORS AND
00:19:12LEGISLATURES TO MAKE BETTER
DECISIONS IN THE 1980'S AND
00:19:161990'S, AND THE RESULT WOULD BE
WE WOULD BE A LEADER, NOT A
00:19:19LACQUER -- LAGGER.
>> BUT WITH THE BREADTH OF
00:19:27POLICY CHANGES OVER 40 YEARS --
TO SAY NONE OF THEM WORK?
00:19:32>> NONE OF THEM WORK.
A GOOD EXAMPLE.
00:19:361983, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.
THAT WAS A HUGE COST ON
00:19:44TAXPAYERS.
YOU SEE THAT IN THE DATA NOW.
00:19:46SO, THAT WAS A BAD DECISION FOR
OHIOANS.
00:19:53LET'S FOCUS ON THE BIG ISSUES
THAT WILL REALLY HELP OHIOANS.
00:20:00FOR EXAMPLE, A SEVERANCE TAX.
WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ALL THIS
00:20:06POLITICAL CAPITAL ON A SEVERANCE
TAX?
00:20:09WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH BROAD-
BASED STATE AND LOCAL TAX
00:20:19REFORM.
OHIOANS STILL PAID FOR.
00:20:25WE HAVE TO FIX THE SYSTEM.
IT IS THAT KIND OF THING ON THE
00:20:29MARGINS THAT HAS HAPPENED TOO
OFTEN.
00:20:31WE NEED TO STOP THAT AND GET
REAL CHANGES IN PLACE.
00:20:34SO OHIO CAN BE THE LEADER IT WAS
YEARS AGO, NOT THE LAGGER THAT
00:20:43IT IS.
>> YOU START BY SAYING THE
00:20:46GOVERNMENT SPENDS TOO MUCH
MONEY.
00:20:48YOU SAY "THE IDEA THAT THE
GOVERNMENT MUST PAY TOP DOLLAR
00:20:57OUR IDEAS PROMOTED BY A LIBERAL
THINK TAKES AND POLITICIANS."
00:21:01HOW DOES THAT WORK?
DO WE DO MERIT PAY?
00:21:11THE PEOPLE WANT THE BEST
TEACHERS FOR THEIR KIDS?
00:21:14>> SURE, SURE.
>> HOW DO YOU GET THE BEST
00:21:23PUBLIC SERVANTS IF YOU DON'T
WANT TO PAY?
00:21:25>> BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SERVE
THE PUBLIC.
00:21:28THERE IS A LARGER CALLING FOR
THE TEACHERS I KNOW.
00:21:32THERE'S A LARGER CALLING THEIR.
-- THERE.
00:21:38THERE IS UP HIGHER CALLING.
AND THAT IS WHAT GOVERNMENTS
00:21:45USED TO BE ABOUT.
FROM POLITICAL APPOINTEES DOWN
00:21:50TO YOUR LOWEST PAID WORKERS,
THAT SYSTEM HAS BEEN VERY
00:21:56INCONSISTENT.
WE CAN AFFORD THESE PACKAGES,
00:22:00ESPECIALLY AT THESE LEVELS WHERE
THEY ARE A HUGE AMOUNT IN THE
00:22:04BUDGET AND THE ONLY ANSWER TO
THAT IS HIGHER TAXES.
00:22:06IN CALIFORNIA, THEY ARE A LITTLE
BIT AHEAD OF THE CURVE ON US.
00:22:12OHIO -- WE ARE NOT THERE YET,
BUT WE ARE APPROACHING THE.
00:22:18>> BUT YOU TALK ABOUT MERIT PAY.
>> NO, NOT AT ALL.
00:22:25WE WILL REWARD A TEACHER WHO
GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND.
00:22:29A TEACHER WHO DOES NOT WILL NOT
GET REWARDED.
00:22:32NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO.
IT IS ALL ABOUT BASE PAY
00:22:38INCREASES.
NEED A SYSTEM WHERE IF YOU DO A
00:22:41FANTASTIC JOB, YOU GET A ONE
PLANT -- $1,000 BONUS.
00:22:46WE REWARD THEM FOR THE WORK THAT
WAS DONE, AND WE DON'T DO IT FOR
00:22:52THESE TEACHERS THAT JUST COME
IN, CHECK THE BOX, WORK THE 105
00:22:57DAYS.
IS TREATING THEM DIFFERENT.
00:23:01THAT IS MERIT PAY.
IT MEANS REWARDING GOOD WORK.
00:23:06>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PAY, YOU
SIGNED A LOT -- HE CITED A LOT
00:23:13OF STATISTICS.
YOU CLAIM THAT UNITED WORKERS OF
00:23:18COMPENSATIONS --
>> 25%.
00:23:20>> SOME SAY THAT IS NOT THE CASE
IF YOU FACTOR IN OTHER THINGS
00:23:26LIKE EDUCATION.
>> RIGHT.
00:23:29>> WHO DO YOU BELIEVE?
>> WHO DO WE BELIEVE?
00:23:33ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
THE DUELING STATISTICS.
00:23:39RIGHT?
LET THEM MAKE THE DECISION ON
00:23:44WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
WHAT OFTEN HAPPENS, THE ALL HEAR
00:23:49ABOUT THE RUTGERS STUDY, AND
THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM BECAUSE
00:23:56THAT IS ONE SIDE OF THE
DISCUSSION, ONE SIDE OF THE
00:24:00DEBATE AND NEVER SEE THE OTHER
SIDE.
00:24:02UP AND MAKE AN INFORMER -- AN
INFORMED DECISION IF IT IS A
00:24:06ONE-SIDED DEBATE?
>> I AM NOT ONE TO SPEND A LOT
00:24:10OF TIME ON A CHAPTER ON
JOURNALISTS.
00:24:13>> I DON'T MEAN YOU.
>> IN ALL FAIRNESS TO YOUR
00:24:19COLLEAGUES IN MOSTLY CURRENT
JOURNALISM -- WHO YOU ARE
00:24:25BLASTING -- WE HAVE PEOPLE DOING
STORIES THAT NEED TO BE DONE
00:24:32QUICKLY.
AND THE PRIVATE COMPANIES THAT
00:24:36RUN NEWSROOMS --
>> YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT THE
00:24:41CONSERVATIVE IDEAS AS MUCH AS
PROGRESSIVE IDEAS.
00:24:45YES, MONTH AFTER MONTH, NOT A
SINGULAR -- SINGLE BUG BITE
00:24:54REPORT.
AT THE SAME TIME, AND I AM NOT
00:25:00BEGRUDGING THEM FOR GETTING
COVERAGE, AT THE SAME TIME, THE
00:25:07BUCKEYE INSTITUTE WAS RAISING
IMPORTANT ISSUES.
00:25:13IT WAS MORE ABOTU THE NEWS SIDE.
IT WOULD FIND TIME TO REPORT ON
00:25:23OUR PROGRESS OF FRIENDS AND WHAT
THEY DID.
00:25:25YOU WOULD NEVER FIND TIME IN TWO
AND A HALF YEARS?
00:25:30>> ALRIGHT.
NEXT WEEK, A LITTLE MORE FROM
00:25:33MATT MAYER ON HIS SOLUTIONS TO
WHAT HE SEES ARE OHIO'S BIGGEST
00:25:35PROBLEMS.
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