| 00:00:01 | >> SUPPORT COMES FROM THE LAW
OFFICES, HELPING BUSINESSES AND |
| 00:00:14 | INDIVIDUALS SOLVE COMPLEX LEGAL
PROBLEMS IN OHIO AND AROUND THE |
| 00:00:18 | WORLD.
AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION |
| 00:00:23 | ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
131,000 TEACHERS, SUPPORT |
| 00:00:27 | PROFESSIONALS, AND HIGHER
EDUCATION FACULTY WORKING FOR |
| 00:00:31 | GREAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR EVERY
CHILD. |
| 00:00:32 | ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IS MADE
POSSIBLE BY E-TECH OHIO. |
| 00:00:40 | '>> A NEW POLL SHOWS A BIG LEAD
FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA IN OHIO. |
| 00:00:45 | BUT IT DOESN'T STOP EITHER
CANDIDATE FROM SPENDING EVEN |
| 00:00:47 | MORE TIME HERE.
THE U.S. SENATE RACE IS THE |
| 00:00:49 | MOST EXPENSIVE IN OHIO HISTORY
-- AND ALSO FAST BECOMING THE |
| 00:00:51 | NASTIEST.
I TALK TO BOTH REPUBLICAN |
| 00:00:55 | CHALLENGER JOSH MANDEL AND
DEMOCRATIC INCUMBENT SHERROD |
| 00:00:57 | BROWN ABOUT THE CHARGES OF
BROKEN PROMISES AND OUTRIGHT |
| 00:01:01 | LYING THAT HAVE COME UP BETWEEN
THE CANDIDATES. |
| 00:01:02 | THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES ARE
COMING UP -- AND THEY COULD BE |
| 00:01:06 | CRITICAL IN BRINGING IN THOSE
ALL-IMPORTANT UNDECIDED VOTERS. |
| 00:01:08 | TWO EXPERTS IN CAMPAIGN STRATEGY
AND MESSAGING WILL TALK ABOUT |
| 00:01:12 | WHAT THEY EXPECT TO HEAR FROM
THEIR CANDIDATE AND THE OTHER |
| 00:01:16 | GUY.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF |
| 00:01:17 | OHIO". |
| 00:01:23 | >> THE LATEST QUINNIPIAC
UNIVERSITY/CBS NEWS/NEW YORK |
| 00:01:26 | TIMES SWING STATE POLL HAS
PRESIDENT OBAMA LEADING |
| 00:01:27 | MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY
IN OHIO 53% TO 43%, A FOUR- |
| 00:01:31 | POINT GAIN SINCE AUGUST.
THE POLL OF THE THREE SWING |
| 00:01:38 | STATES OF OHIO, PENNSYLVANIA,
AND FLORIDA HAS OBAMA UP BY |
| 00:01:41 | DOUBLE DIGITS IN ALL THREE
STATES, AND IT'S BEEN SAID THAT |
| 00:01:46 | IF ROMNEY DOESN'T WIN OHIO OR
FLORIDA, HE HAS VERY LITTLE |
| 00:01:50 | CHANCE OF GETTING THE ELECTORAL
VOTES NEEDED TO TAKE THE WHITE |
| 00:01:52 | HOUSE.
IN THE OHIO POLL, OBAMA HAS A |
| 00:01:55 | 25-POINT LEAD AMONG WOMEN
LIKELY VOTERS, WITH ROMNEY |
| 00:01:57 | HOLDING AN EIGHT POINT LEAD WITH
MEN. |
| 00:01:59 | INDEPENDENTS ARE DEAD EVEN --
47% TO 46%. |
| 00:02:02 | BOTH OBAMA AND ROMNEY WERE IN
OHIO THIS WEEK -- OBAMA WAS IN |
| 00:02:08 | BOWLING GREEN AND KENT SPEAKING
TO CROWDS THAT INCLUDED COLLEGE |
| 00:02:11 | STUDENTS IN BIG NUMBERS, AND
ROMNEY AND HIS RUNNING MATE |
| 00:02:14 | PAUL RYAN WERE ON A THREE DAY
BUS TOUR THAT WENT FROM LIMA TO |
| 00:02:18 | CINCINNATI TO DAYTON TO THE
COLUMBUS AREA TO CLEVELAND TO |
| 00:02:21 | TOLEDO.
AND BOTH ARE EXPECTED BACK IN |
| 00:02:24 | OHIO NEXT WEEK.
THE STATE'S FIVE PUBLIC PENSION |
| 00:02:27 | FUNDS ARE EXPECTED TO BE MORE
SOLID, NOW THAT GOV. JOHN |
| 00:02:30 | KASICH HAS SIGNED BILLS THAT
MAKE CHANGES TO EACH OF THEM. |
| 00:02:32 | THE FUNDS' MANAGERS HAD ASKED
LAWMAKERS TO MAKE CHANGES IN |
| 00:02:37 | CONTRIBUTION RATES, RETIREMENT
ELIGIBILITY, SERVICE |
| 00:02:40 | REQUIREMENTS AND PAYOUT
ADJUSTMENTS. |
| 00:02:42 | THE CHANGES WERE FIRST SOUGHT
IN 2009, BUT THE FIVE BILLS |
| 00:02:44 | DIDN'T PASS TILL THIS SESSION.
AND KASICH CALLS THE NEARLY |
| 00:02:49 | UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT ON THESE
BILLS -- QUOTING HIM -- A |
| 00:02:53 | BIPARTISAN TRIUMPH.
>> WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO |
| 00:03:01 | FIGHT ON LOTS OF STUFF LIKE
BUDGET AND TAXES. |
| 00:03:04 | THAT IS THE WAY IT IS.
BUT THERE ARE SOME CRITICAL |
| 00:03:07 | THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE TO
MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE |
| 00:03:12 | IN GOOD SHAPE AND THEY EXERCISE
THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO GET IT |
| 00:03:16 | DONE THE RIGHT WAY.
>> THOSE FUNDS COVER 1.8 MILLION |
| 00:03:20 | STATE EMPLOYEES, TEACHERS AND
OTHER SCHOOL EMPLOYEES, POLICE, |
| 00:03:23 | FIREFIGHTERS AND TROOPERS.
UNDER THE NEW RULES, MOST OF |
| 00:03:25 | THOSE WORKERS WILL HAVE TO
CONTRIBUTE MORE OF THEIR PAY, |
| 00:03:28 | AND WILL HAVE TO STAY ON THE
JOB LONGER OR RETIRE OLDER TO |
| 00:03:30 | GET FULL BENEFITS.
THEY CAN ALSO EXPECT TO GET |
| 00:03:39 | SMALLER COST-OF-LIVING
INCREASES. |
| 00:03:40 | PROSECUTORS HAVE DECLINED TO
FILE CHARGES AGAINST FORMER |
| 00:03:42 | STATE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT STAN
HEFFNER, WHO RESIGNED AMID |
| 00:03:44 | ETHICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS
RELATIONSHIP WITH AN EDUCATIONAL |
| 00:03:47 | TESTING CONTRACTOR.
HEFFNER LEFT OFFICE LAST MONTH |
| 00:03:50 | AFTER THE STATE WATCHDOG
RELEASED A REPORT THAT FOUND |
| 00:03:53 | HEFFNER HAD RECEIVED A JOB
OFFER FROM A TESTING FIRM WHEN |
| 00:03:55 | HE LOBBIED STATE LAWMAKERS LAST
YEAR ON A BILL THAT BENEFITED |
| 00:03:59 | THE COMPANY.
THE INSPECTOR GENERAL'S REPORT |
| 00:04:03 | ALSO FOUND THAT HEFFNER MISUSED
HIS STATE EMAIL AND CELLPHONE |
| 00:04:06 | TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE TESTING
FIRM. |
| 00:04:07 | THE PROSECUTORS SAID THEY
BELIEVED HEFFNER ACTED |
| 00:04:11 | INAPPROPRIATELY BUT EVIDENCE DID
NOT SUPPORT THE FILING OF |
| 00:04:14 | CRIMINAL CHARGES. |
| 00:04:16 | EARLY VOTING STARTS NEXT WEEK,
ON OCTOBER 2. |
| 00:04:18 | AND THE BIGGEST RACE ON THE
BALLOT BEHIND THE PRESIDENTIAL |
| 00:04:22 | CONTEST IS THE U.S. SENATE.
THAT RACE WAS THE MOST |
| 00:04:25 | EXPENSIVE U.S. SENATE CAMPAIGN
IN OHIO HISTORY BACK IN JULY, |
| 00:04:28 | WHEN THE LAST CAMPAIGN FINANCE
REPORTS WERE FILED. |
| 00:04:31 | SINCE THEN, DEMOCRATIC
INCUMBENT SEN. SHERROD BROWN |
| 00:04:35 | AND REPUBLICAN STATE TREASURER
JOSH MANDEL HAD RAISED $25 |
| 00:04:37 | MILLION AS OF THAT FILING, AND
HAVE CONTINUED TO ADD TO THOSE |
| 00:04:43 | TOTALS.
AND THEIR CONTEST IS ONE OF A |
| 00:04:45 | HANDFUL OF RACES THAT HAVE
ATTRACTED LOTS OF NATIONAL |
| 00:04:48 | ATTENTION -- AND MONEY.
THIS WEEK, THEY WERE AT BACK- |
| 00:04:51 | TO-BACK EVENTS IN COLUMBUS, AND
TALKING ABOUT THEIR IDEAS AND |
| 00:04:56 | THEIR CAMPAIGNS, WHICH HAVE
GOTTEN INCREASINGLY NASTY. |
| 00:04:58 | JOSH MANDEL HAS TAKEN SOME HEAT
FOR NOT BEING SPECIFIC ABOUT |
| 00:05:02 | HIS PLANS IF HE'S ELECTED. THIS
WEEK MANDEL RELEASED THREE |
| 00:05:05 | PROPOSALS THAT HE SAYS WILL
REFORM CONGRESS -- REQUIRING 12- |
| 00:05:08 | YEAR TERM LIMITS FOR
REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATORS, |
| 00:05:12 | CEASING CONGRESSIONAL PAY AT THE
START OF THE FISCAL YEAR ON |
| 00:05:16 | OCTOBER 1 IF LAWMAKERS DON'T
PASS A FEDERAL BUDGET, AND |
| 00:05:20 | FORCING LAWMAKERS TO FORFEIT
THEIR PENSIONS IF THEY LEAVE THE |
| 00:05:23 | HOUSE OR SENATE TO BECOME
LOBBYISTS. |
| 00:05:25 | I TALKED WITH MANDEL AFTER THAT
EVENT. |
| 00:05:29 | WHY DID YOU COME UP WITH THESE
PROPOSALS NOW? |
| 00:05:35 | YOU SAID THIS IS A PREVIEW OF
WHAT WE WILL SEE FROM YOU. |
| 00:05:38 | >> AS I TRAVEL THE STATE, ONE OF
THE MAIN CONCERNS ARE HERE IS |
| 00:05:43 | THEY THINK POLITICIANS IN
WASHINGTON ARE LIVING BY ONE SET |
| 00:05:46 | OF RULES BY THE REST OF US ARE
LIVING BY A DIFFERENT SET OF |
| 00:05:49 | RULES.
WE ARE PRESENTING THESE ISSUES |
| 00:05:52 | NOW, PRESENTING THESE IDEAS NOW
BECAUSE THEY CUT AGAINST LET |
| 00:05:58 | SHERROD BROWN AND OTHERS IN
WASHINGTON ARE DOING. |
| 00:06:04 | SAYS HE WILL NOT PASS A BUDGET
IN WASHINGTON, WE WILL KEEP YOU |
| 00:06:10 | OUT WITH TERM LIMITS.
WHEN YOU GET KICKED OUT, IF YOU |
| 00:06:14 | DECIDE TO BECOME A LOBBYIST, YOU
WILL NOT RECEIVE A PENSION FROM |
| 00:06:19 | THE TAXPAYERS OF THE STATE OF
OHIO. |
| 00:06:20 | THEY ALL FIT INTO EACH OTHER.
THEY ARE FOCUSED ON POLITICIANS |
| 00:06:24 | LIKE SHERROD BROWN.
HE IS NOT THE ONLY PROBLEM. |
| 00:06:29 | HE IS PART OF AN THE OTHER -- OF
THE LARGER PROBLEM. |
| 00:06:32 | >> IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE
AGREEING WITH WHAT PRESIDENT |
| 00:06:36 | OBAMA HAS SAID ABOUT HOW YOU
CANNOT CHANGE WASHINGTON FROM |
| 00:06:39 | THE INSIDE.
>> DEALING WITH TO CHANGE |
| 00:06:41 | WASHINGTON IS TO CHANGE THE
PEOPLE WE SEND. |
| 00:06:43 | -- THE ONLY WAY TO CHANGE
WASHINGTON IS TO CHANGE THE |
| 00:06:47 | PEOPLE WE SEND.
WE NEED NEW LEADERS TO CHANGE |
| 00:06:51 | THE CULTURE.
>> IN YOUR NEW ADD, YOU SAY THAT |
| 00:06:57 | SHERROD BROWN HAS MISSED THREE
AND A 50 OFFICIAL VOTES. |
| 00:06:59 | THESE POLITICIANS THINK THEY CAN
LIVE BY DIFFERENT SET OF RULES. |
| 00:07:04 | HIS CAMPAIGN SAYS YOU DID NOT
ATTEND THE FIRST 14 MEETINGS OF |
| 00:07:08 | THE STATE AS TREASURER AND YOU
ARE NOT LIVING BY THE SAME SET |
| 00:07:12 | OF RULES THAT YOU WANT OTHERS TO
LIVE BY. |
| 00:07:14 | >> THAT IS HOGWASH.
BY STATE LAW, I CAN SEND THEIR |
| 00:07:18 | DISNEY'S -- I CAN SEND
DESIGNATED PEOPLE. |
| 00:07:23 | WE HAVE 100% ATTENDANCE FROM MY
OFFICE. |
| 00:07:25 | LOOK AT THE RECORD OF THE
OFFICE. |
| 00:07:28 | THE HIGHEST RATING ON BONDS AND
INVESTMENTS. |
| 00:07:30 | FOR THE FIRST TIME IN ALMOST A
DECADE, WE EARNED AN UPGRADE. |
| 00:07:36 | OUR PORTFOLIO IS UP TO DOLLARS
BILLION SINCE WE TOOK OFFICE. |
| 00:07:39 | WE NAVIGATED EUROPEAN DEBT
CRISIS YIELDING BACK TO |
| 00:07:44 | TAXPAYERS.
WE HAVE DONE IT WHILE CUTTING |
| 00:07:46 | THE BUDGET.
SHERROD BROWN HAS MISSED OVER |
| 00:07:49 | 350 VOTES IN WASHINGTON.
GOVTRACK.US TRACKS POLITICIANS |
| 00:07:58 | IN WASHINGTON.
WHEN HE FINALLY SHOWS UP, HE |
| 00:08:01 | VOTED TO RAISE HIS OWN PAY SIX
TIMES. |
| 00:08:04 | DO YOU KNOW WHERE HE WAS ON ONE
OF THE VOTES IN THIS COURTROOM |
| 00:08:06 | HE WAS ON THE UKRAINE ON SPECIAL
INTEREST TRIP. |
| 00:08:09 | HE THINKS HE CAN LIVE BY
DIFFERENT SET OF RULES. |
| 00:08:13 | >> YOU HAVE BEEN ASSAILED BY
FACT CHECKERS AS NOT BEING |
| 00:08:21 | TRUTHFUL.
SHERROD BROWN'S CAMPAIGN HAS SET |
| 00:08:26 | UP A WEBSITE TO SAY YOU ARE
LYING. |
| 00:08:29 | HOW DOES IT FEEL FOR PEOPLE TO
BE CALLING YOU A LIAR IN THE |
| 00:08:32 | CAMPAIGN?
>> IT IS REALLY SHERROD BROWN |
| 00:08:34 | DOING THAT.
HE IS WRONG. |
| 00:08:35 | I DO NOT TAKE PERSONAL OFFENSE.
HE IS TRYING TO WIN A CAMPAIGN |
| 00:08:40 | AND DISTRACT VOTERS FROM HIS
RECORD. |
| 00:08:42 | PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME KNOW THE WAY
I WAS RAISED IN MY FAMILY AND IN |
| 00:08:47 | THE MARINE CORPS, STANDING WITH
HONOR AND INTEGRITY, I AM PROUD |
| 00:08:51 | TO TELL THE TRUTH.
IT IS SHARED BROWN THAT HAS BEEN |
| 00:08:54 | CALLED OUT AS A LIAR.
POLITIFACT SAID HIS STATEMENT |
| 00:09:01 | ABOUT MEDICARE WAS THE 2005
LIGHT OF THE YEAR. |
| 00:09:03 | THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT
PURPORTS TO JUDGE THE FACTS. |
| 00:09:09 | I AGREED WITH THEM WHEN THEY
CALLED SHERROD BROWN THE LIGHT |
| 00:09:14 | OF THE YEAR.
>> DO YOU STAND BY THE OTHER ADS |
| 00:09:18 | AND STATEMENT ABOUT THE PANTS ON
FIRE RULING? |
| 00:09:22 | >> SURE BROWN HAS VOTED TO GIVE
BILLIONS OF OUR TAX MONEY TO |
| 00:09:27 | FOREIGN COUNTRIES.
THAT IS 100% TRUE IN THE VOTING |
| 00:09:30 | RECORD.
FOR SOME REASON, THAT |
| 00:09:32 | ORGANIZATION SAID IT WAS FAULT.
I AM NOT SURE WHY. |
| 00:09:34 | THEY BOTCH THINGS ALL THE TIME.
THEY ARE FULL OF GOOD PEOPLE |
| 00:09:43 | TRYING TO DO THEIR JOB.
SOMETIMES THEY GET IT RIGHT. |
| 00:09:45 | SOMETIMES THEY GET IT WRONG.
IT IS GOOD PEOPLE TRYING TO DO |
| 00:09:49 | THEIR JOB.
SOMETIMES IT GOES BETTER THAN |
| 00:09:51 | OTHERS.
>> YOU HAVE TOLD ME YOU FEEL YOU |
| 00:09:53 | WILL BE OUTSPENT IN THE
CAMPAIGN. |
| 00:09:56 | >> WE ARE BEING OUTSPENT.
SHERROD BROWN HAS A LOT MORE |
| 00:09:59 | MONEY.
WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR SIDE IS |
| 00:10:01 | PEOPLE.
WE HAVE GREAT ENERGY. |
| 00:10:04 | HIS CAMPAIGN IS MADE UP OF FOLKS
RUNNING A NEGATIVE MESSAGE ON |
| 00:10:10 | DIVISIVENESS TRYING TO DISTRACT
VOTERS FROM HIS RECORD. |
| 00:10:12 | FOR A GUY WHO HAS BEEN IN
POLITICAL OFFICE FOR 38 YEARS, |
| 00:10:18 | SINCE NIXON WAS PRESIDENT, DOES
HE HAVE A GOOD THING TO SAY |
| 00:10:23 | ABOUT HIS OWN RECORD?
WE WILL WIN THIS BECAUSE WE'RE |
| 00:10:27 | RUNNING A POSITIVE CAMPAIGN
ABOUT IDEAS. |
| 00:10:29 | >>
A FEW HOURS LATER AND A FEW |
| 00:10:32 | MILES AWAY FROM THE MANDEL
PRESS CONFERENCE, SEN. SHERROD |
| 00:10:34 | BROWN WAS STANDING WITH MEMBERS
OF THE COMMUNICATIONS WORKERS |
| 00:10:37 | OF AMERICA TO ANNOUNCE A
PROPOSAL THAT WOULD PROHIBIT |
| 00:10:38 | FEDERAL LOANS AND GRANTS TO GO
TO COMPANIES THAT SEND CALL |
| 00:10:40 | CENTER JOBS OUT OF THE U.S., AND
WOULD REQUIRE COMPANIES TO |
| 00:10:43 | NOTIFY CUSTOMERS IF THEY SEND
SERVICE CALLS OVERSEAS. |
| 00:10:46 | I TALKED WITH SHERROD BROWN
AFTER THAT EVENT. |
| 00:10:53 | YOU SAID THEY ARE NOT JUST
TARGETED AT YOU. |
| 00:10:58 | THEY SAY YOU ARE PART OF THE
PROBLEM THEY'RE TRYING TO FIX. |
| 00:11:02 | >> FOR SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT TELL
THE TRUTH, HE HAS BEEN THE |
| 00:11:06 | HEISMAN TROPHY WINNER OF THE
BIG LIE ACCORDING TO THE |
| 00:11:09 | COLUMBUS DISPATCH AND OTHER
PAPERS AROUND THE STATE. |
| 00:11:13 | FOR SOMEONE WHO PROMISED TO
SERVE HIS TERM IN THE |
| 00:11:16 | TREASURER'S OFFICE AND WITHIN
WEEKS WAS RUNNING FOR THE |
| 00:11:19 | SENATE, NOT DOING THE JOB FOR
THE SENATE, PROPOSALS LIKE THIS |
| 00:11:23 | LOOKED INTO.
WHY WOULD A PROMISE FROM JOSH |
| 00:11:25 | MANDEL MEAN MUCH WHEN HE HAS
BROKEN HIS PROMISE SO MANY OTHER |
| 00:11:31 | TIMES?
IT HAS TAKEN HIM 20 MONTHS IN |
| 00:11:34 | THIS RACE TO COME UP WITH A
SUBSTANTIVE PROPOSAL. |
| 00:11:37 | THERE IS NOT ONE JOB CREATED BY
ANY OF THESE PROPOSALS. |
| 00:11:41 | HE WAS AGAINST THE OFF TO RESCUE
THAT I FOUGHT FOR. |
| 00:11:44 | HE IS AGAINST OUR CHINA BUILT
THAT WE SUPPORTED THAT LEVEL THE |
| 00:11:48 | PLAYING FIELD ON CHINESE
CURRENCY. |
| 00:11:50 | HE SEEMS TO BE AGAINST A LOT OF
THE TRADE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS |
| 00:11:54 | THAT HELPED TO CREATE A STEEL
MILL AND ALUMINUM JOBS AND TIRE |
| 00:12:00 | JOBS.
I DO NOT THINK PEOPLE WILL TAKE |
| 00:12:04 | HIM SERIOUSLY.
>> BOTH OF YOU CLAIM YOU HAVE A |
| 00:12:07 | LOT OF SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE.
YOU HAVE CALLED THE THE PEOPLE |
| 00:12:12 | POWER CAMPAIGN IN A FUND-RAISING
E-MAIL YOU SENT OUT. |
| 00:12:13 | YOU HAVE RAISED OVER $14
MILLION. |
| 00:12:18 | YOU HAVE MORE THAN GRASS-ROOTS
ORGANIZATIONS BEHIND YOU. |
| 00:12:20 | >> I HAVE 80,000 CONTRIBUTORS.
THE AVERAGE CONTRIBUTION IS |
| 00:12:26 | UNDER $100.
OUTSIDE GROUPS THAT ARE NOT |
| 00:12:31 | IDENTIFIED, WE DO NOT KNOW WHO
THEY ARE, BUT WE GUESS THEY ARE |
| 00:12:36 | THE OUTSOURCES, THE CHINESE
INTERESTS THAT OUTSOURCED JOBS |
| 00:12:40 | BECAUSE THEY DO NOT LIKE MY
POSITION ON CHINESE CURRENCY. |
| 00:12:43 | WE THINK IT IS WALL STREET
BECAUSE THEY DO NOT LIKE MY |
| 00:12:46 | POSITION ON WHAT THE BANKS HAVE
DONE TO THE COUNTRY. |
| 00:12:51 | WE THINK IT IS OILFIELD MONEY
BECAUSE I HAVE TAKEN ON THE OIL |
| 00:12:54 | COMPANIES IN WANTING TO TAKE
AWAY THE TAX BREAKS THEY |
| 00:13:00 | AMAZINGLY STILL GET FROM
TAXPAYERS. |
| 00:13:01 | THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE SPENT $
19.5 MILLION AGAINST ME. |
| 00:13:05 | IT IS MORE MONEY AGAINST ME THAN
ANY OTHER SENATE CAMPAIGN IN THE |
| 00:13:08 | COUNTRY.
YOU HAVE TO ASK WHY THE BIG |
| 00:13:12 | BANKS AND DRUG COMPANIES AND
COMPANIES THAT OUTSOURCE JOBS |
| 00:13:16 | WANT TO DEFEAT ME.
WE FIGHT BACK WITH AN EXTENSIVE |
| 00:13:20 | GRASS-ROOTS EFFORT.
WE HAVE 80,000 CONTRIBUTORS THAT |
| 00:13:23 | HAVE CONTRIBUTED $10 OR $1,000.
>> YOUR PANTS ON FIRE AD AGAINST |
| 00:13:33 | JOSH MANDEL, HE SAYS IT IS TO
DISTRACT PEOPLE FROM YOUR |
| 00:13:39 | RECORD.
>> IF I WAS ABOUT TO BE AWARDED |
| 00:13:43 | THE HEISMAN TROPHY FOR PANTS ON
FIRE, I WOULD SAY ALL KINDS OF |
| 00:13:47 | THINGS TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT.
ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN |
| 00:13:50 | SAID ABOUT JOSH MANDEL NOT
TELLING THE TRUTH HAVE BEEN SAID |
| 00:13:54 | BY THE STATE NEWSPAPERS.
ONE IS AN ENDORSEMENT I HAVE |
| 00:13:57 | NEVER GOTTEN AND PROBABLY NEVER
WILL. |
| 00:14:00 | THEY HAVE SAID HIS CAMPAIGN IS
THE BIG LIE. |
| 00:14:02 | OTHER NEWSPAPERS AND BOTH SAID,
HOW LOW CAN HE GO? |
| 00:14:10 | HE IS LEADING THE NATION IN
LINE AND -- IN LIEING IN |
| 00:14:20 | POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS.
. |
| 00:14:23 | THE PLEA BY THE STATE
NEWSPAPERS, THEY HAVE SAID -- |
| 00:14:28 | THE STATE NEWSPAPERS HAVE SAID
HE DOES NOT HAVE MUCH ABILITY TO |
| 00:14:30 | TELL THE TRUTH.
>> YOU ARE PILING ON WITH THE |
| 00:14:32 | WEBSITE JOSHMANDELISLYING.
>> HE GOT ELECTED TREASURER AND |
| 00:14:44 | IMMEDIATELY RAN FOR SENATE.
PEOPLE OUGHT TO KNOW HIS |
| 00:14:46 | CHARACTER.
IF SOMEONE IS WILLING TO BREAK |
| 00:14:48 | HIS WORD RIGHT AWAY AND NOT TO
HIS JOB, THE VOTERS OUGHT TO |
| 00:14:53 | KNOW THAT.
WHEN I AM ELECTED, I WORK EVERY |
| 00:14:56 | DAY IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE TO
CREATE JOBS. |
| 00:14:59 | WHEN I WAKE UP, I THINK ABOUT
THAT. |
| 00:15:01 | APPARENTLY WHEN HE WAKES UP, HE
THINKS ABOUT THE NEXT OFFICE TO |
| 00:15:05 | RUN FOR.
HE HAS RUN FOR FOUR OFFICES IN |
| 00:15:08 | SEVEN YEARS AND NOT SERVED FULLY
IN HIS LAST OFFICE. |
| 00:15:13 | >> YOU HAVE SAID TO ME YOU
BELIEVE JOSH MANDEL'S CAMPAIGN |
| 00:15:18 | WILL OUTSPEND YOU.
DO YOU STILL BELIEVE YOU WILL BE |
| 00:15:22 | OUTSPENT?
>> THEY SPENT $19.5 MILLION IN |
| 00:15:26 | ATTACK ADS AGAINST ME, OUTSIDE
MONEY. |
| 00:15:29 | >> THAT IS NOT HIS CAMPAIGN.
THAT IS OUTSIDE MONEY. |
| 00:15:32 | >> THAT IS SPLITTING HAIRS.
OUTSIDE INTERESTS LIKE OIL |
| 00:15:36 | COMPANIES AND CHINESE INTERESTS,
WALL STREET BANKS, ARE PILING |
| 00:15:43 | ON.
MY OPPONENT IS A BENEFICIARY OF |
| 00:15:46 | THAT BECAUSE THEY SENT -- SPENT
MORE MONEY ATTACKING ME THAN ANY |
| 00:15:50 | OTHER SENATE RACE IN THE
COUNTRY. |
| 00:15:53 | PARSE IT HOWEVER, BUT AS
STRAIGHTFORWARD AND HONEST AS |
| 00:16:05 | PUBLIC RADIO AND TELEVISION HAVE
BEEN, I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND. |
| 00:16:07 | >>
THE U.S. SUPREME COURT RULED IN |
| 00:16:10 | 1995 THAT STATES CAN'T IMPOSE
TERM LIMITS ON THEIR FEDERAL |
| 00:16:12 | LAWMAKERS, AND A U.S.
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT |
| 00:16:15 | LIMITING TERMS OF MEMBERS OF
CONGRESS THAT SAME YEAR WAS |
| 00:16:17 | REJECTED.
SO FOR NOW, MANDEL HAS HIS |
| 00:16:20 | PROPOSAL, AND HIS PLEDGE THAT
HE'LL HOLD HIMSELF TO IT. |
| 00:16:22 | BROWN POINTS OUT THAT MANDEL
HAS RUN FOR FOUR OFFICES IN |
| 00:16:25 | SEVEN YEARS, AND HE HAD SAID HE
WOULDN'T RUN FOR THE ONE HE IS |
| 00:16:30 | RUNNING FOR NOW.
>> HE MADE A PROMISE. |
| 00:16:36 | HIS PROMISES ARE EMPTY.
MADE A PROMISE HE WOULD SERVE |
| 00:16:44 | OUT HIS TERM AS TREASURER WHEN
HE RAN. |
| 00:16:46 | WITHIN WEEKS, HE WAS RUNNING FOR
THE SENATE. |
| 00:16:49 | HE SHOWS HE CANNOT BE TRUSTED. |
| 00:16:54 | >>
MANDEL SAYS HE WAS -- QUOTING |
| 00:16:57 | HERE -- "DRAFTED INTO THIS BY A
STRONG MIX OF DEMOCRATS, |
| 00:17:00 | REPUBLICAN AND INDEPENDENTS WHO
THINK WASHINGTON HAS LET US |
| 00:17:01 | DOWN" -- AND HE NOTES BROWN HAS
SPENT 38 YEARS IN STATE AND |
| 00:17:03 | FEDERAL OFFICE.
AND WHEN ASKED ABOUT HIS |
| 00:17:05 | PROMISE TO KEEP TO A 12-YEAR
TERM LIMIT IN LIGHT OF HIS |
| 00:17:07 | EARLIER PLEDGE TO FINISH OUT HIS
TERM AS TREASURER, MANDEL |
| 00:17:10 | REITERATES THAT HE'LL STICK TO
IT. |
| 00:17:11 | >> I WILL UPHOLD IT.
YOU HAVE MY WORD. |
| 00:17:17 | I WILL A
UPHOLD IT. |
| 00:17:18 | I BELIEVE IN WASHINGTON -- YOU
HAVE MY WORLD -- WORD I WILL |
| 00:17:26 | UPHOLD IT.
I BELIEVE IN WASHINGTON. |
| 00:17:27 | THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH CAREER
POLITICIANS. |
| 00:17:29 | >>AND MANDEL NOTES THAT HIS TERM
LIMITS PROPOSAL WOULD BE SIMILAR |
| 00:17:32 | TO THE ONE OHIO VOTERS APPROVED
FOR STATE LAWMAKERS -- SO A |
| 00:17:34 | REPRESENTATIVE WHO HAS SERVED
12 YEARS CAN RUN FOR THE U.S. |
| 00:17:36 | SENATE, AND THEN RUN FOR THE
HOUSE AGAIN ONCE THAT SENATE |
| 00:17:40 | TERM LIMIT IS MAXED.
AS FOR MANDEL'S OTHER |
| 00:17:43 | PROPOSALS, BROWN SAYS THE BUDGET
CONTROL ACT THAT LAWMAKERS |
| 00:17:46 | PASSED LAST YEAR WAS STRONGER
THAN A BUDGET -- IT WAS THE |
| 00:17:50 | MEASURE THAT RAISED THE DEBT
CEILING AND CREATED $1.2 |
| 00:17:53 | TRILLION IN AUTOMATIC CUTS THAT
WILL HIT AT THE END OF THE YEAR |
| 00:17:56 | UNLESS CHANGES ARE MADE.
AND HE SAYS HE HAS NO INTEREST |
| 00:18:01 | IN BECOMING A LOBBYIST ONCE HE
LEAVES CONGRESS. |
| 00:18:03 | AND HE ADDS THAT MANDEL'S
PROPOSALS WON'T CREATE A SINGLE |
| 00:18:07 | JOB. |
| 00:18:08 | WHILE THE SENATE CAMPAIGN HAS
GOTTEN A LOT OF STATEWIDE AND |
| 00:18:11 | NATIONAL ATTENTION, THE
PRESIDENTIAL CONTEST AND OHIO'S |
| 00:18:13 | ROLE IN IT IS STILL IS TOP OF
MIND FOR MOST PEOPLE WATCHING |
| 00:18:17 | POLITICS THESE DAYS.
HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S AHEAD |
| 00:18:19 | ARE TWO EXPERTS IN CAMPAIGN
STRATEGY AND MESSAGING. GREG |
| 00:18:23 | HAAS IN THE NEW CHAIR OF THE
FRANKLIN COUNTY DEMOCRATIC |
| 00:18:26 | PARTY, AND HAS RUN SEVERAL
LOCAL AND STATEWIDE CAMPAIGNS, |
| 00:18:28 | AND THE STATE DIRECTOR OF
PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON'S 1992 |
| 00:18:32 | CAMPAIGN.
AND MARK WEAVER HAS RUN OR |
| 00:18:35 | CONSULTED ON SEVERAL SUCCESSFUL
CAMPAIGNS IN OHIO AND |
| 00:18:38 | NATIONWIDE.
HE'S ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE |
| 00:18:40 | MEDIA RELATIONS AND ADVERTISING
FIRM COMMUNICATIONS COUNSEL. |
| 00:18:42 | LET'S FIRST TALK ABOUT THE NEW
POLL SHOWING PRESIDENT OBAMA |
| 00:18:53 | WITH A 10-POINT LEAD OVER MITT
ROMNEY. |
| 00:18:55 | IS OHIO A LOST CAUSE?
>> THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH |
| 00:19:01 | THE POLLS.
I AM NOT SUGGESTING MITT ROMNEY |
| 00:19:04 | IS WINNING.
I THINK IT IS MORE CLOSELY TIED. |
| 00:19:07 | THOSE OF US PULL IN OHIO
REGULARLY NOTE RARELY DOES THE |
| 00:19:12 | CANDIDATE HAVE A 10-POINT LEAD
IN THE STATE DIVIDED. |
| 00:19:15 | >> THAT IS SOMETHING I HAVE
HEARD FROM OTHER REPUBLICANS IN |
| 00:19:20 | OHIO.
GREG, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT |
| 00:19:26 | EXPLANATION AND THE IDEA THAT
THE MODELS ARE BASED ON TURNOUT |
| 00:19:31 | UNLIKELY TO MATERIALIZE?
>> THAT PART IS NOT ACCURATE. |
| 00:19:34 | I DO AGREE THE TURNOUT MODEL IN
ITS FLEXIBLE -- I DO AGREE THE |
| 00:19:41 | TURNOUT MODEL IS FLEXIBLE AND
CHANGES. |
| 00:19:44 | THAT IS SOMETHING PEOPLE MISS AT
ALL LEVELS OF DISCUSSION. |
| 00:19:46 | THEY SEE THE SWINGS IN THE
POLLS. |
| 00:19:50 | THEY MAKE THE ASSUMPTION IT IS
BECAUSE LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE |
| 00:19:55 | ARE FOR OBAMA ONE DAY AND MITT
ROMNEY THE NEXT. |
| 00:19:57 | THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE DECIDING
WHETHER THEY WILL VOTE AND |
| 00:20:04 | PARTICIPATE.
THE PARTICIPATION POOL IS WHAT |
| 00:20:09 | CHANGES DRAMATICALLY.
I AGREE WITH MARK IS WIDE OPEN |
| 00:20:14 | IN TERMS OF HOW YOU INTERPRET
THAT. |
| 00:20:15 | IT IS GOOD NEWS FOR OUR SIDE.
NOBODY ON OUR SIDE IS RESTING ON |
| 00:20:22 | ITS.
TWO YEARS AGO WHEN GOVERNOR |
| 00:20:30 | KASICH WAS 20 POINTS AHEAD IN
LATE AUGUST OR WHENEVER, A LOT |
| 00:20:36 | OF PEOPLE WANTED TO CALL THE
RACE THEN. |
| 00:20:38 | I MADE THE POINT HE IS MAKING
NOW ABOUT THE PARTICIPATION |
| 00:20:44 | POOL.
I AM REFERRING BELIEVER IN THAT. |
| 00:20:48 | I ABSOLUTELY AGREE -- I AM A
FIRM BELIEVER IN THAT. |
| 00:20:52 | I ABSOLUTELY AGREE THE RACE IS
NOT OVER. |
| 00:20:54 | IT DEPENDS A LOT ON THE GROUND
GAME. |
| 00:20:57 | I THINK THAT IS GOOD NEWS FOR
OUR SIDE IN A LOT OF WAYS. |
| 00:20:59 | I STILL THINK WE HAVE A WIDE
OPEN RACE. |
| 00:21:05 | >> I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE
PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES THAT START |
| 00:21:08 | NEXT WEEK.
IT IS A BIG DEAL. |
| 00:21:10 | MARK, YOU HELPED ROB PORTMAN
PLAYING THE ROLE OF PRESIDENT |
| 00:21:21 | OBAMA.
YOU TALK ABOUT THE UNDECIDED |
| 00:21:23 | VOTERS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK MITT ROMNEY |
| 00:21:25 | HAS TO DO TO GET SOME OF THOSE
PEOPLE TO COME OVER TO HIS SIDE? |
| 00:21:29 | >> THAT IS THE CHALLENGE.
THE CHALLENGE FOR MITT ROMNEY |
| 00:21:34 | FROM A MESSAGE SIDE IS IN A
CLEAR WAY TO POINT OUT THAT |
| 00:21:39 | BARACK OBAMA HAS FAILED TO LIVE
UP TO HIS OWN PROMISES. |
| 00:21:41 | THE YES WE CAN AND HOPE AND
CHANGE PUT FORWARD IN 2008 HAVE |
| 00:21:48 | PROVEN TO BE HOLLOW.
THE BAD ECONOMY BARACK OBAMA |
| 00:21:53 | INHERITED HE MADE WORSE.
HIS POLICIES AND ALLOW IT TO GO |
| 00:21:57 | FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS WOULD
MAKE IT EVEN WORSE. |
| 00:22:01 | THAT IS MITT ROMNEY'S CHALLENGE.
WHEN HE DOES THAT, HE CAN SHOW |
| 00:22:06 | US HIS IDEAS CAN HELP TO TURN
THE CORNER. |
| 00:22:08 | I THINK HE CAN DO THAT.
>> DOES HE HAVE A CHALLENGE IN |
| 00:22:11 | TERMS OF PERSONALITY?
A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOK AT BARACK |
| 00:22:15 | OBAMA AS BEING A GOOD SPEAKER
THAT REACHES OUT TO PEOPLE. |
| 00:22:17 | MITT ROMNEY SEEMS STIFFER.
>> THAT IS A CHALLENGE FOR ANY |
| 00:22:22 | CANDIDATE TO SHOW WHO THEY ARE
IN AN ARTIFICIAL WAY. |
| 00:22:29 | BARACK OBAMA SEEMED LIKE OUR
NEIGHBOR, LIKE HE UNDERSTOOD. |
| 00:22:33 | BUT HE HAS BEEN CLOISTERED IN
THE WHITE HOUSE AND SURROUNDED |
| 00:22:37 | BY STAFF WHO SAY "YES, MR.
PRESIDENT" A LOT. |
| 00:22:41 | THAT HAS A WAY OF MAKING YOU
PRESUME YOUR RIGHT ABOUT A LOT |
| 00:22:44 | OF THINGS.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE |
| 00:22:48 | HOW BARACK OBAMA AS PRESIDENT
REACTS TO BEING CHALLENGED. |
| 00:22:54 | >> THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY HE
COULD SAY SOMETHING IN THE |
| 00:22:57 | DEBATE THAT WILL ENDANGER HIS
LEAD. |
| 00:22:59 | I GUESS THERE IS A MORE REAL
POSSIBILITY THERE COULD BE A |
| 00:23:02 | GAFFE WITH JOE BIDEN IN THE
VICE-PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. |
| 00:23:07 | ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT EITHER ONE
OF THEM? |
| 00:23:09 | >> NOT AT ALL.
VICE-PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS BEEN ON |
| 00:23:13 | THE PUBLIC STAGE FOR 30 YEARS,
30 PLUS YEARS. |
| 00:23:17 | HE HAS HAD HIS MOMENTS.
IF YOU LOOK BACK, HE HAS |
| 00:23:24 | INTERVIEWED AND SPENT HOURS WITH
EVERY HEAD OF STATE FOR A LONG |
| 00:23:27 | TIME AS CHAIRMAN OF THE FOREIGN
RELATIONS COMMITTEE. |
| 00:23:30 | HE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT OF
NEGOTIATIONS. |
| 00:23:33 | THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A GAFFE IN
THIS SITUATION. |
| 00:23:39 | THEY OCCUR WHEN HE TAKES OFF THE
ARMOR AND GOES OUT IN TALKS. |
| 00:23:42 | SPEECHES, OCCASIONALLY.
CONVERSATIONS WITH REPORTERS. |
| 00:23:45 | I LIKE TO SAY OF JOE BIDEN THAT
IF YOU WANT A POLITICIAN TO TELL |
| 00:23:54 | YOU WHAT HE IS THINKING, HE IS
YOUR GUIDE. |
| 00:23:58 | >> THAT CAN BE A DANGER.
>> THE POINT IS IT ONLY HAPPENS |
| 00:24:01 | WHEN HE TAKES THE UNIFORM OFF.
WHEN HE IS IN THOSE SITUATIONS, |
| 00:24:06 | HE HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY
SUCCESSFUL. |
| 00:24:09 | HE HAS BEEN IN SOME OF THE MOST
DELICATE INTERNATIONAL |
| 00:24:12 | NEGOTIATIONS.
IT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN |
| 00:24:14 | BEING IN THE SITUATION WHERE YOU
ARE TALKING TO SOMEBODY IN A |
| 00:24:18 | CONVERSATION ON THE SLATE --
HONEST WAY. |
| 00:24:22 | I HAVE TO GO WITH -- NO ONE IN
THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY HAS |
| 00:24:29 | HEARD MORE DIRECT CRITICISM AN
ATTACK THAT BARACK OBAMA OVER |
| 00:24:33 | THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
YOUR PARTY HAS STOOD BEHIND |
| 00:24:38 | NETANYAHU WHEN HE LECTURED HIM
IN PUBLIC. |
| 00:24:40 | THEY CHOSE TO SUPPORT THAT
ATTACK ON OUR PRESIDENT. |
| 00:24:45 | >> IF HE BRISTLES IN THE
PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE, IT WILL NOT |
| 00:24:51 | PLAY WELL.
>> I THINK HE HANDLED IT |
| 00:24:55 | GRACEFULLY.
THE BIGGER QUESTION IS, THE |
| 00:25:04 | DISDAIN FOR THIS PRESIDENT IS SO
GREAT A FOREIGN HEAD OF STATE |
| 00:25:06 | CAN TALK TO HIM LIKE THAT.
IF ANYBODY HAD DONE THAT TO |
| 00:25:10 | GEORGE W. BUSH, I WOULD BEEN
MAD, NO MATTER HOW STRONGLY I |
| 00:25:13 | FELT ABOUT GEORGE BUSH.
WHY THERE WAS NO REACTION FROM |
| 00:25:17 | YOUR SIDE SPEAKS VOLUMES.
>>NEXT WEEK, WE'LL HEAR FROM |
| 00:25:20 | BOTH OF YOU ON THE U.S. SENATE
RACE. |
| 00:25:21 | AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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