00:00:01 | >> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE BROADCAST OF "THE STATE OF OHIO" |
00:00:09 | COMES FROM OUR LAW OFFICES, HELPING BUSINESSES AND |
00:00:13 | INDIVIDUALS SOLVE COMPLEX LEGAL PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT OHIO, ACROSS |
00:00:16 | THE COUNTRY, AND AROUND THE WORLD. |
00:00:18 | AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING |
00:00:24 | 131,000 TEACHERS SUPPORT PROFESSIONALS AND HIGHER |
00:00:28 | EDUCATION FACULTY WORKING FOR A PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR EVERY CHILD. |
00:00:31 | OHEA.ORG. ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IS MADE |
00:00:36 | POSSIBLE BY E-TECH OHIO. >> THE MAP FLAP IS OVER, AS |
00:00:42 | REPUBLICANS AND SOME DEMOCRATS MAKE A DEAL. |
00:00:44 | THE HEART BE BILL FLAT LINES FOR NOW. |
00:00:48 | AND THE LEADERS OF THE OHIO SENATE LOOK BACK ON A VERY BUSY |
00:00:51 | YEAR AND LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT'S AHEAD FOR 2012. |
00:00:54 | ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF OHIO." |
00:00:56 | CAPTIONED BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE |
00:00:58 | --WWW.NCICAP.ORG-- OHIOANS WILL VOTE ONLY ONCE FOR |
00:01:01 | PARTY NOMINEE FOR THE STATEHOUSE, CAPITOL HILL, AND |
00:01:04 | THE WHITE HOUSE. A LAST-MINUTE DEAL TO SETTLE THE |
00:01:07 | MAP FLAP ON THE LAST WORK DAY OF 2011 FOR LEGISLATORS MERGES THE |
00:01:11 | PRIMARIES FOR STATE LAWMAKERS AND THE U.S. SENATE, WHICH WERE |
00:01:14 | SET FOR MARCH, AND THE PRIMARIES FOR CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENCY, |
00:01:17 | WHICH HAD BEEN SCHEDULED FOR JUNE, INTO ONE DATE, MARCH 6. |
00:01:22 | BOTH MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES GRIPED ABOUT THE DUAL PRIMARY |
00:01:26 | SITUATION. REPUBLICANS BLAMED DEMOCRATS FOR |
00:01:28 | CREATING THE NEED FOR TWO PRIMARIES WHEN THEY LAUNCHED A |
00:01:32 | BALLOT DRIVE TO OVERTURN THE REPUBLICAN-DRAWN MAP OF |
00:01:34 | CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS. DEMOCRATS COMPLAINED THEIR IDEA |
00:01:38 | TO MOVE BOTH PRIMARIES TO JUNE WAS REJECTED BY REPUBLICANS. |
00:01:40 | THE PROPOSAL TO MOVE ALL THE PRIMARIES BACK TO MARCH CAME |
00:01:44 | FROM REPUBLICAN REP MATT HUFFMAN OF LIMA, WHO HELPED RUSH IT |
00:01:49 | THROUGH A HOUSE COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND THEN TO |
00:01:52 | THE FULL HOUSE. >> I AM HAPPY TO PRESENT THIS. |
00:01:56 | MAY BE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CHRISTMAS GIFT TO THE FOLKS OF |
00:01:59 | THE STATE OF OHIO. >> THE PROPOSAL ALSO REPLACES |
00:02:03 | THE MAP THAT DEMOCRATS WERE CHALLENGING WITH THEIR PETITION |
00:02:06 | DRIVE WITH A MAP THAT MAKES MINOR CHANGES IN COLUMBUS, |
00:02:08 | DAYTON, AND TOLEDO. IT ESTABLISHES THE DECEMBER 30 |
00:02:12 | FILING DEADLINE FOR PRESIDENTIAL AND CONGRESSIONAL |
00:02:15 | PRIMARY CANDIDATES. AN INCREASE OF BIPARTISAN |
00:02:18 | REDISTRICTING TASK FORCE THAT WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON |
00:02:20 | CHANGES TO THE PROCESS BY NEXT SUMMER SOME DEMOCRATS WERE NOT |
00:02:24 | PLEASED, SUCH AS BOB HAGAN OF YOUNGSTOWN. |
00:02:26 | >> THE REAL GIFT THAT WE GIVE EVERYBODY WAS A SLAP IN THE FACE |
00:02:30 | TO DEMOCRACY. WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT WHAT WE |
00:02:35 | ARE DOING, WHAT WE'VE DONE. WAS IT FAIR THAT SOME OF THESE |
00:02:43 | DISTRICTS WERE CARVED UP IN A WAY THAT REALLY DILUTES THE |
00:02:46 | OPPORTUNITY TO REPRESENT THEM IN CONGRESS? |
00:02:48 | >> BUT HUFFMAN SHOT BACK THE OFTEN-HEARD ARGUMENT THAT |
00:02:52 | DEMOCRATS HAD A CHANCE TO SUPPORT CHANGES TO THE |
00:02:54 | REDISTRICTING PROCESS WITH A PROPOSAL LAST YEAR FROM |
00:02:57 | REPUBLICAN SENATOR JON HUSTED, NOW THE SECRETARY OF STATE. |
00:02:59 | >> IF THOSE THINGS ARE NOT GOING TO GO FORWARD, CERTAINLY YOU |
00:03:05 | HAVE AN OPTION TO DO THAT. BUT TO SIMPLY SUGGEST THAT |
00:03:07 | SOMEHOW THE BLAME LIES ON THIS SIDE OF THE AISLE IS FALSE. |
00:03:11 | AND THOSE WHO ARE SUGGESTING THAT KNOW THAT. |
00:03:15 | >> ALL HOUSE REPUBLICANS PRESENT VOTED FOR THE MAC. |
00:03:19 | THE 21 HOUSE DEMOCRATS WHO JOINED THEM SAID THEY DID SO |
00:03:22 | BECAUSE THE NEW MAP IS AN IMPROVEMENT OVER THE OLD ONE, |
00:03:25 | AND THE MERGING OF THE PRIMARIES PREVENTS THE STATE FROM SPENDING |
00:03:28 | THE $15 MILLION THE JUNE VOTE WAS ESTIMATED TO COST. |
00:03:31 | REP MATT SZOLLOSI IS FROM THE TOLEDO AREA. |
00:03:35 | >> THIS FIGHT HAS BEEN ABOUT GIVING ALL HIGH WINDS -- GIVING |
00:03:42 | OHIOANS A STRONGER VOICE IN THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS, AND TO |
00:03:50 | FORCE A MEANINGFUL DEBATE. I AM PLEASED THAT PART OF THIS |
00:03:53 | AGREEMENT WILL INCLUDE THE FIRST STEPS TOWARD A MEANINGFUL, UP |
00:03:58 | BIPARTISAN REFORM FOR REDISTRICTING IN THE STATE OF |
00:04:04 | OHIO. >> THE MAP AND PRIMARY BILL |
00:04:07 | PASSED THE HOUSE OVERWHELMINGLY AND THEN HAD A SIMILAR RESULT IN |
00:04:10 | THE SENATE NOT LONG AFTERWARD. THE OHIO GOP AND THE OHIO |
00:04:13 | DEMOCRATIC PARTY PUT POSITIVE SPINS ON THE SITUATION IN PRESS |
00:04:17 | RELEASES. BOTH PARTY CHAIRS GAVE CREDIT TO |
00:04:19 | THEIR LAWMAKERS FOR CREATING THE BIPARTISAN TASK FORCE AND FOR |
00:04:22 | SAVING TAXPAYERS THE COST OF THE JUNE PRIMARY. |
00:04:23 | HEARINGS ON WHAT WOULD BE THE NATION'S STRICTEST ABORTION BAN |
00:04:28 | HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED AFTER ITS BACKERS SUBMITTED A LIST OF MORE |
00:04:32 | THAN 20 CHANGES TO THE PROPOSAL. THE SO-CALLED PART B BILL WOULD |
00:04:37 | OUTLAW ABORTION AFTER A FETAL HEARTBEAT IS DETECTED, OFTEN AS |
00:04:40 | EARLY AS SIX WEEKS INTO A PREGNANCY. |
00:04:42 | WHEN I TALK TO SENATE PRESIDENT NIEHAUS ON TUESDAY, HE HAD JUST |
00:04:47 | SEEN THE LIST OF CHANGES AND SAID HE STILL BELIEVES THE BILL |
00:04:50 | AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. |
00:04:53 | AS PART OF THE YEAR END INTERVIEW ALONGSIDE SENATE |
00:04:55 | MINORITY LEADER CAPRI CAFARO, NIEHAUS EXPRESSED SOME |
00:04:59 | FRUSTRATION WITH THE TIMING OF THESE REVISIONS. |
00:05:01 | >> I MEAN, I'M JUST FLABBERGASTED THAT AFTER ALL |
00:05:05 | THIS TIME, OF ALL THESE PEOPLE HAMMERING AWAY AT THE |
00:05:08 | LEGISLATURE, NOW THEY REALIZE -- THEY GO YOU KNOW WHAT, BUT |
00:05:14 | MAYBE THEY WERE RIGHT, THERE ARE PROBLEMS WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK |
00:05:16 | AT. >> THE HEARTBEAT BILL, WHICH |
00:05:21 | PASSED THE HOUSE IN JUNE, HAS CAUSED QUITE A DISTURBANCE |
00:05:23 | WITHIN THE ANTI-ABORTION COMMUNITY, WITH THE BILL'S |
00:05:26 | BACKERS FORMING A POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE AND SEVERAL |
00:05:29 | LOCAL RIGHT-TO-LIFE GROUPS SPLITTING FROM OHIO RIGHT TO |
00:05:32 | LIFE TO JOIN IT. SEVERAL ACTIVISTS ON BOTH SIDES |
00:05:35 | HAVE RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT HOW HARD BE BUILT WORKS WITH EIGHT |
00:05:38 | NEW CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT WOULD PREVENT OHIOANS FROM |
00:05:40 | BEING FORCED INTO A GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. |
00:05:42 | CAFARO DESCRIBES HERSELF AS A CIVIL LIBERTARIAN, AND SAID |
00:05:47 | THAT'S JUST PART OF HER CONCERN ABOUT THE HEART BE DELL. |
00:05:48 | >> FRANKLY, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING TO TRY TO IMPROVE OHIO AND THE |
00:05:54 | ECONOMY AND HELP PEOPLE PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE, THERE ARE A LOT OF |
00:05:58 | OTHER MUCH, MUCH, IN MY OPINION, MORE PRESSING ISSUES ON THE |
00:06:01 | MINDS OF OHIOANS THAN THIS. >> I'LL HAVE STILL MORE OF MY |
00:06:09 | INTERVIEW COMING UP. ONE OF THE AUTHORS OF OHIO'S |
00:06:12 | DEATH PENALTY LAW TESTIFIED AGAINST IT THIS WEEK, SAYING THE |
00:06:15 | STATE IS NO LONGER SERVED WELL BY IT. |
00:06:17 | OHIO SUPREME COURT JUSTICE PAUL PFEIFER TOLD A HOUSE COMMITTEE |
00:06:21 | THE LAW'S APPLICATION HAS BECOME HIT OR MISS, DEPENDING ON WHERE |
00:06:23 | CRIME IS COMMITTED AND WHAT THE COUNTY PROSECUTOR'S ATTITUDE IS. |
00:06:27 | PFEIFER IS TESTIMONY SUPPORTS A BILL BY TWO DEMOCRATIC STATE |
00:06:31 | LAWMAKERS WHO WANT TO SCRAP THE DEATH PENALTY BROUGHT THE OHIO |
00:06:35 | SUPREME COURT, WHICH HEARS ALL DEATH PENALTY CASES, HAS |
00:06:39 | CONVENED A TASK FORCE TO LOOK INTO THE DEATH PENALTY, BUT |
00:06:41 | CHIEF JUSTICE MAUREEN O'CONNOR SAYS THE GROUP IS NOT TO |
00:06:43 | CONSIDER A BAN ON CAPITAL PUNISHMENT. |
00:06:44 | AS GOVERNOR JOHN LASIK PREDICTED, -- GOV. JOHN KASICH |
00:06:52 | PREDICTED, SEARS WILL BE STAYING IN ILLINOIS. |
00:06:55 | OHIO HAD OFFERED $400 MILLION TO LURE SEARS HERE. |
00:06:59 | THE GOVERNOR HAS LONG SOUNDED NEGATIVE ABOUT OHIO'S CHANCES IN |
00:07:03 | THE CONTEST WITH THE RETAILER, AND WROTE AN ESTIMATE THAT READS |
00:07:07 | IN PART, "WE ARE DISAPPOINTED THAT IT DIDN'T WORK OUT, BUT IS |
00:07:12 | VERY EXCITING THAT OHIO WAS IN SERIOUS CONTENTION UP TO THE |
00:07:15 | VERY END, AND THEN IT TOOK A SPECIAL SESSION OF THE ILLINOIS |
00:07:19 | LEGISLATURE TO BE US. TO HAVE ONE OF AMERICA'S MAJOR |
00:07:22 | RETAILERS CONSIDER RELOCATING TO OHIO IS A TESTAMENT TO HOW FAR |
00:07:26 | WE'VE COME IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. |
00:07:28 | WE ARE BEGINNING TO GET BACK ON TRACK." |
00:07:30 | IT HAS BEEN A VERY BUSY YEAR IN THE STATEHOUSE. |
00:07:34 | 56 BILLS HAVE BEEN PASSED BY THE HOUSE AND SENATE THIS YEAR, |
00:07:37 | THOUGH TWO NEVER BECAME LAW -- A BILL ON WATER USE RULES AS PART |
00:07:41 | OF THE GREAT LAKES CONTACT, WHICH WAS VETOED BY GOV. KASICH, |
00:07:45 | AND OF COURSE, SENATE BILL 5, THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING REFORM |
00:07:49 | LAW THAT WAS OVERTURNED BY VOTERS LAST MONTH. |
00:07:50 | THE STACK OF SIGNED LAWS INCLUDE THE ONES CREATING THE TWO YEAR |
00:07:57 | BUDGET THAT DEALT WITH AN ESTIMATED $8 BILLION DEFICIT, |
00:07:59 | THE CREATION OF JOBSOHIO, AND SENATE BILL 2. |
00:08:06 | THE ESTATE TAX WAS KILLED, THERE WERE REFORMS TO PRISON |
00:08:09 | SENTENCING, VOUCHERS WERE EXPANDED, AND CONCEALED WEAPONS |
00:08:12 | ARE NOW OUT IN BARS BECAUSE OF SENATE BILL 17. |
00:08:16 | AND THERE ARE EVEN TOUGHER ISSUES AHEAD -- THE SALE OR |
00:08:19 | LEASE OF THE OHIO TURNPIKE, A BAN ON EXOTIC ANIMALS, CHANGES |
00:08:23 | IN THE STATE'S PENSION SYSTEM, POSSIBLE ALTERATIONS TO THE |
00:08:26 | ALTERNATIVE ENERGY STANDARDS LAW ON UTILITIES, AND OF COURSE, THE |
00:08:29 | POTENTIAL THAT SOME ELEMENTS OF SENATE BILL 5 THAT PROVED |
00:08:32 | POPULAR WITH VOTERS IN POLLS WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD. |
00:08:34 | I TALKED EARLIER THIS WEEK WITH THE LEADERS OF THE -- THE -- |
00:08:39 | PRESIDENT TOM NIEHAUS, REPUBLICAN OF NEW RICHMOND IN |
00:08:42 | SOUTHWEST OHIO, AND MINORITY LEADER CAPRI CAFARO, A DEMOCRAT |
00:08:46 | OF HUBBARD NEAR YOUNGSTOWN. I STARTED BY ASKING PRESIDENT |
00:08:50 | NIEHAUS ABOUT THE MAP FLAP AND THE RECENT REPORT OF OUR GROUP |
00:08:53 | CRITICAL OF THE MAP DRAWING PROCESS. |
00:08:55 | PUBLIC DOCUMENTS OBTAINED BY THE OHIO CAMPAIGN FOR ACCOUNTABLE |
00:08:58 | REDISTRICTING SHOW THE MAP WAS PUT TOGETHER IN A PRIVATE HOTEL |
00:09:01 | ROOM NEAR THE STATEHOUSE, PAID FOR WITH PUBLIC FUNDS. |
00:09:05 | SPOKESMAN JIM SLAGLE SAYS THE RECORDS SHOW U.S. HOUSE SPEAKER |
00:09:09 | JOHN BOEHNER'S HAND WAS IN THE MAP DRAWING PROCESS ALL ALONG, |
00:09:12 | THROUGH A REPRESENTATIVE OF TEAM BOEHNER WHO PARTICIPATED WITH |
00:09:20 | LEGISLATIVE LEADERS, MAPMAKING CONSULTANTS, AND THE NATIONAL |
00:09:24 | REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE. |
00:09:25 | ANNETTE NIEHAUS SHOWED UP IN THOSE RECORDS AS WELL. |
00:09:26 | RECORDS SHOW THAT U.S. HOUSE SPEAKER JOHN BOEHNER, WHO IS IN |
00:09:31 | YOUR NECK OF THE WOODS IN SOUTHWEST OHIO, WAS INVOLVED IN |
00:09:36 | THE PROCESS OF REDISTRICTING THROUGH A REPRESENTATIVE THERE |
00:09:39 | FOR HIM. AND HE MADE A PLEDGE, "I AM |
00:09:42 | STILL COMMITTED TO ENDING UP WITH A MAP THAT SPEAKER BOEHNER |
00:09:45 | STILL SUPPORTS WITH OR WITHOUT COATS OF MEMBER LEADERSHIP." |
00:09:49 | DOES THAT MEAN THAT SPEAKER BOEHNER WAS DICTATING HOW THE |
00:09:52 | MAP WAS GOING TO LOOK? >> NOW, THIS GROUP TOOK THAT |
00:09:56 | INFORMATION OUT OF CONTEXT. IF YOU LOOK AT MY COMMENTS FROM |
00:09:59 | THE POINT WE STARTED THE REDISTRICTING DISCUSSION, I SAID |
00:10:02 | THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT, NUMBER ONE, WHATEVER WE DID WAS |
00:10:05 | CONSTITUTIONAL, ALL OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, WAS |
00:10:08 | COMPETITIVE TO IT FAST FORWARD, AND I THINK THAT EMAILED WAS |
00:10:12 | SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER AS WE ARE NEARING THE END AGREED TO IN |
00:10:15 | PROCESS. OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE MEMBERS OF |
00:10:18 | CONGRESS AND THE LEGISLATURE, OR AS THEY SAY, PEOPLE INTERESTED |
00:10:24 | IN GOING TO CONGRESS, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THE DISTRICT |
00:10:28 | LINES ARE GOING TO BE DRAWN. I HAD DIFFERENT OPINIONS FROM |
00:10:33 | WITHIN MY LEADERSHIP TEAM ABOUT HOW CERTAIN PARTS OF THE MAP |
00:10:36 | SHOULD LOOK. MIKE, AS REFLECTED IN THAT E- |
00:10:39 | MAIL -- MY COMMENT AS REFLECTED IN THAT E-MAIL WAS THAT IT IS |
00:10:43 | MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAT I HAVE A MAP THAT SPEAKER BOEHNER |
00:10:46 | SUPPORTS THEN AND THAT THAT MIGHT LEAD SHIP MEMBERS SUPPORT, |
00:10:49 | BECAUSE HE IS LOOKING AT A BIGGER PICTURE. |
00:10:52 | MY MEMBERS LOOK AT SPECIFIC AREAS -- HOW DOES IT AFFECT |
00:10:58 | THEIR COMMUNITY, THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO RUN FOR CONGRESS? |
00:11:01 | I WAS LOOKING AT IT FROM A BROADER PERSPECTIVE AND THAT WAS |
00:11:04 | REFLECTED IN THE E-MAIL. >> I WANT TO MOVE ON TO |
00:11:07 | SOMETHING WE HAVE HEARD IN RALLIES AND COMMITTEE MEETINGS. |
00:11:10 | THE LEGISLATURE IS SUPPOSED TO BE DEALING WITH THE ECONOMY AND |
00:11:13 | JOBS, AND YET THEY BY DEALING WITH ABORTION, CLONING, AND |
00:11:17 | OTHER ISSUES OF ARGUING OVER THE CONGRESSIONAL MAP. |
00:11:20 | WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY ARE FRUSTRATED ABOUT |
00:11:23 | WHAT LAWMAKERS WERE ELECTED TO DO AND WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY |
00:11:26 | DOING? >> FIRST, THEY ASSUME WE CANNOT |
00:11:29 | DO MORE THAN ONE THING AND A TIME. |
00:11:32 | AND QUITE A BIT IN THE AREA OF THE JOB CREATION, -- WE HAVE |
00:11:35 | DONE QUITE A BIT IN THE AREA TO THE OPERATION, LOWERING TAXES. |
00:11:39 | A NUMBER OF THINGS THE LEGISLATURE HAS ALREADY DONE TO |
00:11:42 | CREATE THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT ENOUGH OIL FOR JOBS TO BE |
00:11:45 | CREATED. MORE THAN HALF THE PEOPLE |
00:11:48 | WORKING IN OHIO WORK FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. |
00:11:52 | IF YOU KEEP TAXES LOW FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, REGULATIONS |
00:11:56 | MINIMAL FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, IT CREATES INCENTIVES |
00:11:59 | FOR THEM TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE. WHILE WE CERTAINLY INVITE BIG |
00:12:02 | BUSINESSES TO COME TO OHIO AND ENCOURAGE THEIR GROWTH, IT IS |
00:12:05 | MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE FOR OHIOANS THAT SMALL BUSINESSES |
00:12:09 | GROW, BECAUSE THEN WE ARE DIVERSIFIED AND LESS SUBJECT TO |
00:12:12 | THE CHANGES IN THE NATIONAL ECONOMY. |
00:12:13 | AS YOU LOOK THROUGH THE LIST OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THIS FIRST |
00:12:17 | YEAR, AND THEY HAVE ALL BEEN ABOUT JOB CREATION YOU WILL SEE |
00:12:21 | THAT FOCUS CONTINUE IN THE SENATE. |
00:12:23 | YOU WILL HAVE OTHER ISSUES BEING DEBATED. |
00:12:26 | IT IS NOT LIKE WE ONLY FOCUS ON ONE THING AT A TIME. |
00:12:29 | EVERYONE, I THINK, IN THE LEGISLATURE, AND THIS IS A |
00:12:34 | BIPARTISAN ISSUE -- EVERYONE RECOGNIZES THE NEED TO CREATE AN |
00:12:37 | ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE CAN HAVE MORE JOBS. |
00:12:39 | BUT YOU CAN DO OTHER THINGS AT THE SAME TIME. |
00:12:42 | >> AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE ISSUE OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AND |
00:12:46 | DEVELOPMENT IS AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE IN MANY INSTANCES AN |
00:12:50 | OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE WORKED IN A BIPARTISAN MANNER. |
00:12:52 | MANY OF US DID SUPPORT THE COMMON SENSE INITIATIVE. |
00:12:56 | YOU MENTIONED THE SENATE BILL TO. |
00:12:57 | JOBSOHIO AS WELL. >> THERE ARE SOME DEMOCRATS WHO |
00:13:06 | HAD PROBLEMS WITH JOBSOHIO. >> I AM NOT SAYING THERE WERE |
00:13:11 | RICH, BUT WE NEED TO STOP AND BECOME -- I AM NOT SAYING THERE |
00:13:15 | WERE RED, BUT WE NEED TO STOP AND BECOME IN MY OPINION, |
00:13:20 | LOOKING AT HOW TO CREATE AN ADVANTAGEOUS ECONOMIC |
00:13:23 | ENVIRONMENT FOR INVESTMENT. IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT |
00:13:28 | BEEN TESTED, BUT THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING. |
00:13:30 | IT HAS -- IT MAKES OHIO HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS UNIQUE TO THEM |
00:13:35 | WHEN IT COMES TO ECONOMIC GROWTH. |
00:13:37 | WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUES OF REGULATORY REFORM AND SOME OF |
00:13:40 | THE ISSUES THAT ARE RELATED TO THE CREATION OF JOBS OHIO, |
00:13:43 | CERTAINLY THERE HAS BEEN BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. |
00:13:46 | SOME CRITICISM FROM DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES, BUT I THINK AREAS |
00:13:50 | WHERE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD UPON FOR BIPARTISAN |
00:13:54 | CONSENSUS. >> THE LEGISLATURE HAS BEEN |
00:13:57 | SOMEWHAT SIDETRACKED BY THESE OTHER ISSUES LIKE A HEARTBEAT |
00:13:59 | BILL. >> I HAVE ALWAYS FELT THAT WAY, |
00:14:03 | THAT THERE ARE BILLS THAT GO TO THE FLOOR AND YOU WONDER WHY, |
00:14:07 | BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT MAY HAVE PASSED COMMITTEE BUT |
00:14:11 | NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY. I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE |
00:14:13 | ISSUES THAT DEALT WITH FORECLOSURES. |
00:14:15 | SO MUCH DISCUSSION HAS GONE AROUND FOR CLOSURES BUT WE NEVER |
00:14:18 | REALLY SEEMED TO BE ABLE TO PASS A COMPREHENSIVE BILL ON DEALING |
00:14:21 | WITH THE FORECLOSURE ISSUE. THAT IS JUST ONE OF SEVERAL |
00:14:25 | DIFFERENT THINGS THAT I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE OF OHIO ARE |
00:14:28 | EXPECTING US TO DEAL WITH. INSTEAD, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT |
00:14:33 | TAKING FOLIC ACID FOR CHILDBEARING-AGE WOMEN. |
00:14:38 | >> ON THE ISSUE OF JOBS, THOUGH, I WANT TO ECHO THE |
00:14:44 | SENTIMENTS THAT SENATOR CAFARO MENTIONED, THAT IT IS |
00:14:48 | BIPARTISAN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS |
00:14:49 | DIFFERENT ABOUT THE PUBLIC SECTOR FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR, |
00:14:53 | IN THE INSTANCE OF JOBSOHIO, WE ARE TAKING A RISK IN DOING |
00:14:58 | SOMETHING NEW AND ARE PRIVATIZING A FUNCTION THAT IN |
00:15:02 | MOST STATES IS RUN BY STATE BUREAUCRACY. |
00:15:05 | IT MAY WORK, IT MAY NOT WORK. I PERSONALLY BELIEVE IS A GREAT |
00:15:09 | EFFORT AND I BELIEVE IS ALREADY WORKING BY THE SUCCESS WE HAVE |
00:15:13 | AT KEEPING AMERICAN GREETINGS AND A GOOD YEAR AND OTHER |
00:15:15 | COMPANIES COMING TO OHIO. BUT THERE IS ALWAYS A CHANCE |
00:15:19 | WHEN YOU TRY SOMETHING NEW THAT YOU WILL FAIL. |
00:15:21 | FOR SOME REASON, I SPEAK OF, OR PUBLIC SERVICE, A FAILURE DOES |
00:15:25 | NO -- FOR SOME REASON, IN STATE GOVERNMENT OR PUBLIC SERVICE, |
00:15:31 | FAILURE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE AN OPTION. |
00:15:33 | MOST BUSINESSES WOULD BE DELIGHTED TO TRY TO NEW THINGS |
00:15:37 | AND HALF OF THEM SUCCEEDED. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IN |
00:15:43 | THIS LEGISLATURE, WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION, A WILLINGNESS TO |
00:15:47 | TRY SOMETHING NEW AND CHALLENGE CONVENTIONAL THINKING AS WE WORK |
00:15:49 | TO TRY TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO CREATE JOBS |
00:15:52 | IN OHIO. >> CAN I JUST SAY ONE MORE |
00:15:56 | THING? PRESIDENT NIEHAUS DESCRIBED IT |
00:15:59 | AS PRIVATIZATION. THE WAY THAT I INTERPRET IT IS |
00:16:03 | ITPRIVATIZATION TRADE SUMMIT OF THE GRANT PROGRAMS, -- SO MANY |
00:16:10 | OF THE GRANT PROGRAMS WILL STILL BE PASSING THROUGH THE |
00:16:13 | GOVERNMENT FUNCTION. THIS IS TAKING MONIES AND |
00:16:16 | PUTTING THEM INTO WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY GOING TO BE RUN LIKE |
00:16:18 | A VENTURE-CAPITAL FUND TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT INVESTMENT AND |
00:16:22 | TO THE STATE OF OHIO AND THEN POTENTIALLY BE ABLE TO TAKE AN |
00:16:24 | OWNERSHIP POSITION IN THOSE, WHICH THE STATE OF OHIO CANNOT |
00:16:27 | DO CONSTITUTIONALLY THEY AFTER HAVE A SEPARATE ENTITY TO BE |
00:16:30 | ABLE TO DO THAT. >> ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THIS? |
00:16:34 | >> I VOTED FOR IT, SO I GUESS THE ANSWER IS YES. |
00:16:38 | >> THERE IS A LOT THAT IS POTENTIALLY COMING DOWN THE PIKE |
00:16:42 | FOR 2012. THE TURNPIKE, MAYBE, THE BAN ON |
00:16:46 | EXOTIC ANIMALS, REFORM OF THE PENSION SYSTEM, YOU COULD HAVE A |
00:16:50 | PHOTO I.D. AND THE ELECTION LAW COMING UP, MAY BE CHANGES TO THE |
00:16:54 | DEATH PENALTY, WHICH SOME DEMOCRATS HAVE CALLED FOR. |
00:16:59 | THE ONE I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN |
00:17:02 | WITH THE SENATE BILL 5? THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT |
00:17:05 | THE POLLS SHOW VOTERS WERE OK WITH, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE |
00:17:09 | OVERWHELMINGLY DEFEATED. PRESIDENT NIEHAUS, WHAT DO YOU |
00:17:12 | EXPECT TO SEE WITH REGARD TO THE REFORMS OF SENATE BILL 5? |
00:17:15 | >> THERE ARE NO PLANS TO REINTRODUCE PORTIONS OF SENATE |
00:17:19 | BILL 5, EVEN THOUGH, AS YOU POINTED OUT, SURVEYS THROUGHOUT |
00:17:23 | THE STATE, THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE CAMPAIGN, INDICATED THERE |
00:17:28 | WAS A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR MERIT PAY. |
00:17:30 | HALF OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE STATE OF OHIO -- ALL SCHOOL |
00:17:35 | DISTRICTS THAT SIGN UP FOUR RACE TO THE TOP -- HAVE A |
00:17:40 | COMPONENT OF PERFORMANCE-BASED EVALUATIONS. |
00:17:45 | OTHER DISTRICTS ARE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. |
00:17:48 | THERE IS NO PLAN TO SAY THAT THE CHIP AWAY AND DO THIS LITTLE |
00:17:52 | PIECE AND THAT LITTLE PIECE PAID JUST TODAY WE PASSED LEGISLATION |
00:17:54 | ALLOWING THREE LOCAL COUNTIES TO MERGE THEIR JOBS WITH FAMILY |
00:18:02 | SERVICES DEPARTMENT D.D ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE |
00:18:07 | GOVERNOR AND SPEAKER AND I WERE CLEAR ON AFTER THE DEFEAT OF |
00:18:10 | ISSUE TWO WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE LOOKING TO LOCAL |
00:18:13 | GOVERNMENT TO COME TO US WITH IDEAS OF WHAT THEY NEEDED TO |
00:18:16 | HELP THEM BALANCE THE BUDGET IN THESE DIFFICULT TIMES. |
00:18:19 | THESE THREE COUNTIES CAME TOGETHER AND WORK FOR THE PAST |
00:18:22 | YEAR AFTER IT THEY WILL BE WORKING ON THIS PRIOR TO SENATE |
00:18:26 | BILL 5. THEY CAME TOGETHER WITH AN IDEA |
00:18:29 | OF HOW THEY COULD MERGE THEIR DEPARTMENTS, PROVIDE BETTER |
00:18:33 | SERVICES, PROTECTED JOBS, AND SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY. |
00:18:35 | THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ENCOURAGE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO |
00:18:39 | LOOK AT AND TRY SOME NEW THINGS, BECAUSE DOING THE SAME OLD THING |
00:18:43 | IS NOT GOING TO GET US WHERE WE NEED TO GO. |
00:18:44 | >> THIS BILL THAT PRESIDENT NIEHAUS IS REFERRING TO MY |
00:18:51 | CAUCUS DID NOT SUPPORT. CONCEPTUALLY, THE IDEA OF LOCAL |
00:19:01 | GOVERNMENT COOPERATION AND CONSOLIDATION AND COLLABORATION |
00:19:03 | ARE GOOD THINGS. WE WANT THOSE KINDS OF TOOLS. |
00:19:05 | BUT I THINK THAT THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE |
00:19:08 | -- I AM INTERESTED TO HEAR THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A YEAR |
00:19:12 | AFTER IT IS AN AMENDMENT THAT SORT OF CAME FOR THE LAST MINUTE |
00:19:15 | -- FOR THE YEAR AND A HALF. THIS IS AN AMENDMENT THAT SORT |
00:19:20 | OF CAME FOR THE LAST MANY. -- MINUTE. |
00:19:23 | I PERSONALLY HAVE CONCERNS NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL |
00:19:28 | FOR PROTECTING THE JOBS, WHICH IS UNCERTAIN, BUT I REPRESENT A |
00:19:32 | PRETTY RURAL AREA. I HAVE URBAN AND SUBURBAN AREAS, |
00:19:38 | BUT I ALSO HAVE A ROLE, WANTED TO MY DISTRICT. |
00:19:42 | IF YOU HAVE THREE RURAL COUNTIES AND ARE PUTTING JOBS |
00:19:47 | AND FAMILY SERVICES IN ONE OF THEM, YOU ARE INHERENTLY |
00:19:49 | CREATING AN ACCESS PROBLEM FOR FOLKS WHO ARE TRYING TO ACCESS |
00:19:55 | TO PUBLIC BENEFITS SYSTEM, HAVE POTENTIALLY LIMITED ACCESS TO |
00:19:59 | TRANSPORTATION, LIMITED ACCESS TO GAS. |
00:20:01 | WE WILL HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING TO WHERE THIS IS. |
00:20:06 | YOU WILL BE HURTING THE FOLKS IN RURAL COMMUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO |
00:20:08 | GET WHERE WE NEED TO GO TO ACCESS THE BENEFITS. |
00:20:12 | TO ME, THINKING ABOUT BEING SENSITIVE TO THE ROLE ISSUE, I |
00:20:15 | WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. -- RURAL ISSUE, I WAS CONCERNED |
00:20:20 | ABOUT THAT. >> ONE SENATOR TALKED ABOUT HE |
00:20:23 | FELT THIS WAS AN ENCROACHMENT OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN SENATE |
00:20:26 | BILL 5. I'M WONDERING IIF THAT IS |
00:20:30 | WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT. DO YOU EXPECT SOME BILLS AND |
00:20:34 | AMENDMENTS THAT MIGHT CHIP AWAY AT WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO |
00:20:39 | PROTECT WITH THE DEFEAT OF SENATE BILL 5? |
00:20:41 | >> I WILL TAKE AT PRESIDENT NIEHAUS AT HIS WORD AND WE WILL |
00:20:45 | HOLD HIM TO THAT. YOU CANNOT BLAME THOSE OF US WHO |
00:20:48 | WERE OPPONENTS OF THE SENATE BILL 5 TO BE A LITTLE BIT WARY |
00:20:53 | TRADE JUST 48 HOURS AFTER THE DEFEAT OF THE SENATE BILL 5, IN |
00:20:57 | ISSUED TWO, FOLKS CAME IN FROM OUT OF STATE AND PROPOSED A |
00:21:01 | CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT OR PRESENTED A CONSTITUTIONAL |
00:21:05 | AMENDMENT TO TURN OHIO INTO A RIGHT-TO-WORK STATE. |
00:21:08 | THERE SEEMS TO BE A PROLONGED DEBATE SURROUNDING WORKERS' |
00:21:13 | RIGHTS, COMPETITIVE WAGES, COMPETITIVE BENEFITS. |
00:21:16 | IT IS ONE THAT I THINK WE ARE VERY APPREHENSIVE AND WORRY |
00:21:20 | ABOUT. AS I SAID, I TAKE PRESIDENT |
00:21:22 | NIEHAUS AT HIS WORD. THAT IS WHAT HE SAYS, I BELIEVE |
00:21:25 | HIM. I DID GRISETTE -- I DID PRESENT, |
00:21:30 | AND THE MEMBERS OF THE SENATE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS JOINED ME IN |
00:21:32 | PRESENTING JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 3, WHICH WOULD CREATE A |
00:21:35 | CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO PROTECT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE |
00:21:42 | BY REFERENDUM FOR A TWO-YEAR PERIOD. |
00:21:44 | >> VOTED DOWN, CANNOT COME BACK IN THE LEGISLATURE FOR TWO |
00:21:49 | YEARS. >> WHILE I GET THAT THIS HAS |
00:21:52 | GOTTEN A LOT OF ATTENTION BECAUSE IT ISSUED TWO, AND IT |
00:21:56 | LOOKS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT OUTCOMES, THAT IS NOT, |
00:21:58 | IN MY VIEW, THE CASE HERE. IT IS ABOUT PROTECTING THE WILL |
00:22:03 | OF THE PEOPLE. IT IS NOT ABOUT ADVOCATING THE |
00:22:05 | RIGHTS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. IF WE BELIEVE THERE IS A |
00:22:08 | NECESSITY TO MEET STATUTORY CHANGES ON THINGS THAT IN VOTED |
00:22:11 | ON BY THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT WITHIN THE |
00:22:14 | TWO-YEAR MORATORIUM IF WE HAVE BIPARTISAN SUPER MAJORITIES IN |
00:22:18 | BOTH CHAMBERS TO DO THAT. >> REAL QUICKLY, THE DEMOCRATS |
00:22:22 | HAVE BEEN IN THE MINORITY IN THE SENATE SINCE 1985. |
00:22:26 | NOW 10 DEMOCRATS TO 23 REPUBLICANS. |
00:22:30 | DOES OUR CAUCUS HAVE ANY REAL POWER TO STOP ANYTHING IF THE |
00:22:34 | REPUBLICANS WON -- DOES YOUR CAUCUS HAVE ANY REAL POWER TO |
00:22:38 | STOP ANYTHING IF THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO DO IT? |
00:22:39 | >> I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE THE PUBLIC ON OUR SIDE. |
00:22:45 | THE PEOPLE THAT WE REPRESENT IN THESE DISTRICTS ARE JUST AS |
00:22:51 | IMPORTANT AS THE PEOPLE IN SENATOR NIEHAUS' DISTRICT. |
00:22:55 | THE PEOPLE THAT WE REPRESENT, EVEN THOUGH IN THE MINORITY, ARE |
00:22:59 | JUST AS IMPORTANT AND HAVE JUST AS MUCH SAY AT THE BALLOT BOX. |
00:23:05 | I AM HESITANT TO SAY THAT WE CANNOT GET ANYTHING DONE BECAUSE |
00:23:10 | WE ARE IN THE MINORITY. IT DOES NOT ABDICATE OUR |
00:23:14 | RESPONSIBILITY TO BE PART OF THE GOVERNING PROCESS TO BE SURE |
00:23:17 | THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS' VOICES ARE BEING HEARD, THEIR NEEDS ARE |
00:23:23 | BEING MET, WE ARE PROVIDING APPROPRIATE SERVICES, AND THAT |
00:23:26 | WE ARE PART OF THE POLICY-MAKING PROCESS. |
00:23:32 | I HOPE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THE |
00:23:37 | MAJORITY. >> I THINK THE FLAT SIDE OF THAT |
00:23:40 | IS THAT WE ALSO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF OUR CONSTITUENTS. |
00:23:42 | JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A 23-TO-10 ADVANTAGE, REPUBLICANS OVER |
00:23:47 | DEMOCRATS IN THE SENATE, DOES NOT MEAN WE IGNORE THE MINORITY. |
00:23:51 | FOR INSTANCE, I WENT TO SENATOR CAFARO WITHIN THE LAST TWO |
00:23:56 | WEEKS. THERE WAS AN UNFORTUNATE |
00:23:58 | INCIDENT WITHIN HAMILTON COUNTY WHERE A CHILD INVOLVED IN FOSTER |
00:24:02 | CARE DIED. THE SENATOR REPRESENTS PART OF |
00:24:08 | HAMILTON COUNTY, AND I WENT TO SENATOR CAFARO, AND I ASKED THE |
00:24:13 | SENATOR TO LEAD THE EFFORT TO REVIEW THE LEGISLATION, WORK |
00:24:16 | WITH THE REPUBLICAN PROSECUTOR IN HAMILTON COUNTY TO SEE IF |
00:24:19 | THERE IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO TO CHANGE THE LEGISLATION. |
00:24:22 | IT WAS NOT A MATTER OF WE CAN IGNORE THE DEMOCRATS. |
00:24:25 | FIND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEST ABLE TO REPRESENT HIS INTERESTS |
00:24:28 | AND THAT PASSION, AND LET US TO ENGAGE THEM IN THE ISSUE. |
00:24:34 | IT IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE. >> WE ARE FORTUNATE, I BELIEVE, |
00:24:39 | THAT WE HAVE LEADERS WITHIN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY SUCH AS |
00:24:43 | PRESIDENT NIEHAUS AND MYSELF, WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK ACROSS |
00:24:46 | PARTY LINES AND WORK TOWARDS A STRONGER OHIO COLLECTIVELY. |
00:24:48 | I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE IN D.C. |
00:24:53 | THAT ARE WILLING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. |
00:24:55 | THE QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THOSE PEOPLE GO AWAY AND |
00:24:59 | YOU STILL HAVE A 23-10? THAT IS THE ISSUE. |
00:25:02 | >> ONE QUESTION FOR YOU, PRESIDENT NIEHAUS. |
00:25:07 | WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON A GOP CHAIR KEVIN DEWINE? |
00:25:11 | >> THIS IS A PERSONAL FIGHT, TRULY AN INTRAPARTY FIGHT, SO I |
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00:26:53 | >> IT'S BEEN QUITE A YEAR FOR JOHN KASICH. |
00:26:58 | HE'S SEEN SOME OF HIS KEYSTONE PIECES OF LEGISLATION THROUGH |
00:27:02 | THE STATE HOUSE, BUT ONE MAJOR INITIATIVE HE PUT HIS MUSCLE |
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