Historian and author Sarah Vowell says the current turmoil in the United States is nothing new for the nation, and that this is how our country has functioned since its founding. On The Sound of Ideas, we with Sarah Vowell ahead of her convocation speech at Case Western Reserve University. Later, join our conversation with educator Howard Fuller, the noted civil rights and education equality activist.

Guests:
-Sarah Vowell, Author, Lafayette in the Somewhat United States
-Dr. Howard Fuller, Civil Rights Activist & Distinguished Professor of Education, Marquette University