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00:00:38Senate Republicans
00:00:38pass a bathroom bill
00:00:41that began as legislation
00:00:41to make changes
00:00:43in the college credit program.
00:00:45And why do Republicans
00:00:45keep winning
00:00:47in Ohio and Democrats
00:00:47keep losing?
00:00:49Two experts share
00:00:49their thoughts this weekend.
00:00:51The state of Ohio
00:01:11welcome to the state of Ohio.
00:01:13I'm Karen Kasler.
00:01:14A bill requiring
00:01:14transgender students
00:01:17use bathrooms
00:01:18that match the gender
00:01:18on their birth certificates
00:01:20is headed to governor
00:01:20Mike DeWine
00:01:22after the Senate voted along
00:01:22party lines to approve it
00:01:25in their first session
00:01:25since last week's election.
00:01:28The bill started in the Senate
00:01:29as a plan
00:01:29to make operational changes
00:01:31to the state's College Credit
00:01:31Plus program.
00:01:34One of its original sponsors,
00:01:34Republican Senator
00:01:36Jerry Serino,
00:01:37said the bathroom
00:01:37bill provision
00:01:39added by Republicans
00:01:39in the House in a late
00:01:41night session
00:01:41in June, was common sense.
00:01:44And it revolves around
00:01:45the safety, security,
00:01:45and I think common sense,
00:01:49it protects our children
00:01:50and grandchildren
00:01:50in private spaces
00:01:53where they are
00:01:53most vulnerable,
00:01:56using it is us using
00:01:56our legislative authority
00:01:59to ensure schools are,
00:01:59in fact, safe environments.
00:02:03After all, bathrooms,
00:02:03showers, changing rooms
00:02:08should all be safe
00:02:08places for our students.
00:02:10The bill covers
00:02:10students in primary
00:02:12and secondary education
00:02:12in public and private schools.
00:02:16Democratic Senator Bill
00:02:17Dimora was among
00:02:17the original sponsors
00:02:19and said
00:02:19a good bipartisan bill
00:02:21was ruined with what he called
00:02:21hateful, toxic amendments.
00:02:25this bill will create
00:02:25suspicion and paranoia
00:02:28and fear in public spaces
00:02:29that affect
00:02:29both children and adults.
00:02:32And all the experts,
00:02:32doctors, advocates are.
00:02:34My colleagues
00:02:34and I have tried to forum
00:02:35all of you that these bills
00:02:36that bully children
00:02:36and take away lifesaving care
00:02:38are bad from a pure science
00:02:38standpoint,
00:02:40a morality standpoint
00:02:40and a fiscal standpoint.
00:02:43But that doesn't even
00:02:43mattered.
00:02:44The truth has never mattered.
00:02:46Facts have never matter.
00:02:47With these bills
00:02:48the legislature
00:02:48so whipped up into your fury
00:02:49that they can't stop attacking
00:02:49trans kids.
00:02:52Republican Senate President
00:02:52Matt Huffman said
00:02:54the bill was taken up
00:02:54so quickly after the election,
00:02:56not because of a message
00:02:58that voters sent
00:02:58with Republican wins,
00:03:00but because there's a lot
00:03:01to do before the two year
00:03:01session ends next month.
00:03:04I don't think that there's,
00:03:04a lack of knowledge
00:03:09or lack of discussion
00:03:10on this issue,
00:03:10publicly or legislative.
00:03:14These are things
00:03:14that we've all been
00:03:15talking about for,
00:03:15for several weeks and,
00:03:19well, actually now few years.
00:03:22So I think the timing is
00:03:22we're trying, you know, we've
00:03:25we still
00:03:26only have about, a month
00:03:26or so before the end of
00:03:30this session.
00:03:31There's
00:03:31a lot of other legislation
00:03:32we're trying
00:03:32to get through in the Senate.
00:03:35What we what
00:03:35I wanted to do today,
00:03:35and I think,
00:03:38the majority of the Senate
00:03:38wanted to do
00:03:40was to get the things done
00:03:40that we can get done right
00:03:42now, Senate Minority Leader
00:03:42Nikki Antonio,
00:03:45who is the first openly
00:03:45gay leader in the Ohio
00:03:47legislature, said
00:03:48she'd like to work on issues
00:03:48such as property tax reform
00:03:52and funding for public
00:03:52and nonpublic schools
00:03:54instead of a bill she believes
00:03:54will result in a lawsuit.
00:03:57it's so all encompassing,
00:03:57I think.
00:04:00I think that part of
00:04:00it would be difficult.
00:04:02I think I do believe
00:04:02it'll end up in litigation
00:04:06on a number of levels.
00:04:07The public, private, that
00:04:08there's all kinds of problems
00:04:08with it.
00:04:11Ohio joins 11 other states
00:04:11that have some form
00:04:13of a bathroom bill
00:04:13and five of them.
00:04:15The laws have been challenged
00:04:15in court.
00:04:17DeWine,
00:04:17who vetoed the ban on gender
00:04:19transition
00:04:19treatment for minors last year
00:04:22and was quickly overridden
00:04:22by Republican state lawmakers,
00:04:25suggested earlier this year
00:04:26that he's likely to sign this
00:04:26bill.
00:04:29Ohio is a red state and
00:04:29arguably has been for decades.
00:04:33In the last 30 years,
00:04:33Republicans have won just over
00:04:3683% of statewide elections
00:04:36for president, U.S.
00:04:39Senate, Ohio's Supreme Court,
00:04:41and the executive offices
00:04:41of governor, attorney general,
00:04:44auditor, secretary of state,
00:04:44and treasurer.
00:04:46With Democrats
00:04:46winning just under 17%.
00:04:49That total includes
00:04:49this month's elections,
00:04:52when Republicans
00:04:52swept the statewide races,
00:04:54leaving Supreme Court Justice
00:04:54Jennifer Brunner
00:04:57as the lone Democrat
00:04:57elected statewide.
00:05:00So how did Republicans
00:05:00keep their streak going,
00:05:03and what's happened
00:05:03to Democrats in Ohio?
00:05:05My statehouse news
00:05:05Bureau colleague, Joe Ingles,
00:05:07sat down
00:05:07with two political science
00:05:08professors
00:05:08to review the results
00:05:10of the election last week.
00:05:12I think the biggest message,
00:05:12that voters were sending to
00:05:16Ohio as a whole was that the
00:05:16for the Democratic Party,
00:05:21that they no longer
00:05:21recognize the Democratic Party
00:05:24as being the party
00:05:24that represents issues
00:05:27for working class folks
00:05:27or for blue collar folks?
00:05:30And I think
00:05:31that was clearly seen
00:05:31in, Sherrod Brown's defeat.
00:05:37I was shocked.
00:05:38But now that, you know,
00:05:38the dust has settled.
00:05:42I am not surprised.
00:05:44Because it seems that Sherrod
00:05:44Brown's
00:05:48playbook was far too similar,
00:05:51if not the same as Tim
00:05:51Ryan's in 2022.
00:05:55And seeing I can't remember
00:05:55the name of the county
00:05:59that's in the Ohio Valley
00:05:59that Tim Ryan formerly
00:06:02represented,
00:06:02you know, formerly Mahoning.
00:06:04Mahoning that allegedly
00:06:04it went even redder
00:06:08this time around than in 2022,
00:06:08I think
00:06:11is the final nail
00:06:11in the coffin for Democrats
00:06:15representing working class
00:06:15issues or blue collar workers.
00:06:19And to tie it back
00:06:20to the canary in the mines,
00:06:20that was Sherrod Brown's pin.
00:06:24That bird is dead.
00:06:27What do you think, Paul?
00:06:28Yeah I agree.
00:06:29I for a long time
00:06:30resisted the idea
00:06:30that Ohio was a red state.
00:06:33And of course, Sherrod Brown
00:06:35was an example of how
00:06:35Democrats could win in Ohio.
00:06:39But now I think it's it's
00:06:39very, very clear.
00:06:42It's a red state.
00:06:43In fact, Trump,
00:06:43who had gotten 8% of the vote
00:06:47in his preceding
00:06:47two runs for the white House,
00:06:51got well upwards of
00:06:5112% of the vote.
00:06:54That's an astounding.
00:06:54That is huge.
00:06:56And whether it's a red state
00:06:56Republican or a red state,
00:07:01Trump will be determined
00:07:01in the future.
00:07:05I think Trump is more popular
00:07:05than the Republicans.
00:07:08He runs ahead of most of them.
00:07:10Bernie.
00:07:11Marino,
00:07:11I think only won by 4%,
00:07:15whereas Trump won by 12%.
00:07:18And so Sherrod Brown was able
00:07:18to cut into that margin,
00:07:22but it was just too hard,
00:07:22too large to overcome.
00:07:26And I think it also, you know,
00:07:26the Democrats in the past
00:07:29were able to win
00:07:29on sort of New Deal issues.
00:07:33Labor was part of their
00:07:33coalition for a long time.
00:07:38I think we now are seeing more
00:07:38and more cultural issues
00:07:42making their way
00:07:42into elections
00:07:44in a way that voters maybe
00:07:44don't talk so much about,
00:07:47because they don't
00:07:47think of it in that way.
00:07:50But I think there are a lot of
00:07:52voters who,
00:07:52particularly in rural areas,
00:07:52but but really everywhere
00:07:55who think this whole world
00:07:55is changing in ways
00:07:59they don't like.
00:08:01We have black president.
00:08:03We have, women
00:08:03who are being more assertive.
00:08:07We have transgender.
00:08:09We have, gay rights
00:08:09that are more substantial.
00:08:14We have a Democratic Party
00:08:14that is appealing
00:08:17to minorities.
00:08:18These are all things
00:08:18that I think
00:08:20people don't like very well.
00:08:22One of the biggest divides,
00:08:22both in Ohio and nationwide,
00:08:26was between the evangelicals,
00:08:26who are a substantial share
00:08:31of the population around 20%
00:08:31nationwide, higher than that
00:08:35in Ohio.
00:08:36Evangelicals
00:08:36went heavily for Donald Trump
00:08:40and for Republican Senate
00:08:40candidates.
00:08:43So Trump's war,
00:08:43you know, his argument
00:08:46that there's this war on
00:08:46religion is one that
00:08:49I think really hits home
00:08:49for many of these voters.
00:08:52What do you think, Brianna?
00:08:52I absolutely agree.
00:08:55I was telling students today
00:08:55that it was really weird
00:09:00finally acknowledging
00:09:01that the Democratic Party,
00:09:01especially even here in Ohio,
00:09:04had made this shift
00:09:04and abandoned its historical
00:09:07base,
00:09:07focusing on economic issues
00:09:09and representing
00:09:09working class folks,
00:09:11and pivoted to focusing
00:09:11on identity politics.
00:09:14And so, you know, since
00:09:16I had been in grad school
00:09:16and now as a professor,
00:09:18I had heard this, you know,
00:09:20reoccurring argument
00:09:20from the Republican Party
00:09:23that the Democrats
00:09:23are focusing on identity,
00:09:25making it about identity
00:09:25politics,
00:09:27identity, identity, identity.
00:09:29But to see it so clearly play
00:09:29out in this past election,
00:09:33and when you're thinking
00:09:33about,
00:09:34you know, demographics
00:09:34for Lgbtiq, skew,
00:09:37for people of color, for women
00:09:37and things of that sort.
00:09:42Those numbers that exist
00:09:42or even identify
00:09:44with the Democratic Party
00:09:44are not enough to keep
00:09:48the party competitive
00:09:48enough to
00:09:51to be able to afford the loss
00:09:51of working class people.
00:09:55And I think that
00:09:55there needs to be a really
00:10:00hard in difficult conversation
00:10:00for not
00:10:04only the National Party,
00:10:04but for Ohio State.
00:10:07The state party as well,
00:10:09because there is even
00:10:09this disconnect
00:10:12between the national
00:10:12and the state party.
00:10:15That could also explain why
00:10:15there has just
00:10:19been historically, apparently,
00:10:19as long as I've been alive,
00:10:22just a minority
00:10:22representation of Democrats
00:10:26in the Legislative
00:10:26Assembly here in Ohio. Yeah.
00:10:29And that's
00:10:29what I want to get to next,
00:10:30is can the Democratic Party
00:10:30in Ohio recover from this?
00:10:34And what does it need
00:10:34to do to recover, Paul?
00:10:37Well, gerrymandering
00:10:37is the big problem
00:10:39as long as Republicans
00:10:39are the ones who are creating
00:10:42the district lines.
00:10:44It's
00:10:44going to be very difficult
00:10:46for the Democrats
00:10:46to make inroads.
00:10:48And of course,
00:10:49the one thing
00:10:49about gerrymandering
00:10:49is, particularly
00:10:51if it's controlled
00:10:52by the legislature,
00:10:52is that it perpetuates itself.
00:10:56It'll be the same legislature
00:10:56in 2026
00:11:00that will be
00:11:01realigning the lines for the
00:11:01congressional election.
00:11:05And they need to do that
00:11:05in 2026.
00:11:07will be several years later.
00:11:07And then the legislative lines
00:11:11But again, it'll be the same
00:11:11legislature doing that.
00:11:13And one thing we know
00:11:14about legislators, and it's
00:11:14perfectly understandable,
00:11:18is that they want to create
00:11:18district lines
00:11:21in a way that serves them,
00:11:21serve their party,
00:11:25but beyond their party
00:11:26themselves as representatives
00:11:26or senators.
00:11:31And they don't want to
00:11:31change things.
00:11:33I remember
00:11:34overhearing a conversation
00:11:34between one of our local
00:11:38members of Congress,
00:11:38and her husband talking that,
00:11:42it was a Columbus Metropolitan
00:11:42Club, dinner, or lunch.
00:11:47And her husband was saying,
00:11:47I don't care what they do
00:11:50in the legislature.
00:11:52They just need to
00:11:52keep my wife's lines the same
00:11:57to protect her. Wow.
00:11:59What do you think, Brianna?
00:12:00I mean, so
00:12:02I guess my biggest frustration
00:12:02was the,
00:12:04realization
00:12:04that issue one failed
00:12:06because in light of these
00:12:08larger conversations
00:12:08that have been had,
00:12:10you know,
00:12:10over the years about,
00:12:11you know, the lines
00:12:11being drawn,
00:12:13the same in this perpetuating,
00:12:13the same reelection
00:12:16of folks and, you know,
00:12:16essentially locking out
00:12:20any type of competitiveness
00:12:20for the Democratic Party.
00:12:23It makes me wonder
00:12:23why did it fail
00:12:26and whether or not it could be
00:12:28because there was, you know,
00:12:28there was a bipartisan effort.
00:12:30There were these former,
00:12:32you know, Republican
00:12:32leaning judges that came out
00:12:32in support of it.
00:12:35There were people for issue
00:12:35one that did a lot of
00:12:38canvasing across college
00:12:38campuses everywhere.
00:12:41Right?
00:12:43But it still failed. And
00:12:46why do you think, perhaps
00:12:46that the ballot language,
00:12:51what people saw on the ballot
00:12:53that was adopted
00:12:53by the Republican
00:12:55dominated Ohio ballot Board,
00:12:55do you think that that played,
00:12:59any part
00:12:59in the defeat of the issue on
00:13:02the language was confusing?
00:13:04I will admit that.
00:13:05So when I looked
00:13:05at the language myself,
00:13:08I had to whip out my phone
00:13:08and pull up Google
00:13:11just to make sure
00:13:11that I understood it.
00:13:13Right. And I have a PhD.
00:13:15And so I will admit that
00:13:15it was confusing, but
00:13:19I believed that the, Fair
00:13:19District folks were doing
00:13:23decent grassroots campaigns
00:13:23and at least a media campaign
00:13:27that tried to tell
00:13:27would be supporters.
00:13:30Hey, we recognize that
00:13:30the language is weird.
00:13:33We can't really get
00:13:33into the politics behind that.
00:13:36But no matter what,
00:13:36you should vote yes.
00:13:39This is why you should
00:13:39vote yes.
00:13:40I promise to vote yes.
00:13:42As I was explaining
00:13:42to my husband, just vote yes.
00:13:44Don't think
00:13:44too deeply about it.
00:13:46Vote yes because it is
00:13:46purposefully confusing.
00:13:49I do think the ballot language
00:13:49sowed confusion
00:13:52in voters when they're
00:13:52confused about a ballot.
00:13:55Issues on something
00:13:55so important as amending
00:13:58the Constitution
00:14:00are going to say, well,
00:14:00my only recourse to vote no
00:14:04and let them come back again
00:14:04and try now,
00:14:06they probably won't
00:14:07come back again and try
00:14:07because what do they do next?
00:14:11The commission idea
00:14:11that they had pushed in in
00:14:15issue one has been tried
00:14:15in other states
00:14:17fairly successfully.
00:14:19But that's an alternative
00:14:19to legislators basically
00:14:22drawing their own district
00:14:22lines, which strikes
00:14:25people should strike people
00:14:25as really unfair.
00:14:28On the other hand,
00:14:28they've got to have a choice
00:14:31that is attractive to them
00:14:33before
00:14:33they're going to pull the plug
00:14:34and go to another way
00:14:34of doing it.
00:14:37So now Republicans
00:14:37have control here in Ohio
00:14:40and pretty much nationally.
00:14:42What issues do you think
00:14:42are the first things
00:14:46that they'll tackle?
00:14:47Well, they're trying to poke
00:14:47at abortion again.
00:14:50And they're driven, I think,
00:14:50by more extreme members
00:14:54of the legislature
00:14:54and certainly interest groups
00:14:57to try to overcome
00:15:00what voters voted for back
00:15:00a year or two ago.
00:15:05Whether they're going to be
00:15:05successful in that or not.
00:15:08We we don't know yet.
00:15:10DeWine has been marginalized
00:15:10by his own party, in a way,
00:15:15because they have overcome
00:15:15his his vetoes
00:15:18in some important cases.
00:15:21We'll see going forward.
00:15:22So they'll try that.
00:15:24What else would they do?
00:15:26They may be driven by the
00:15:26Trump faction in the party.
00:15:31The party has a problem,
00:15:31I think, you know,
00:15:33one of the one of the problems
00:15:34you face
00:15:34when you are so dominant
00:15:36is that there's
00:15:36a lot of factional infighting
00:15:39that goes on.
00:15:39And we'll see this
00:15:42in the upcoming
00:15:42gubernatorial election.
00:15:44There are several
00:15:44really ambitious statewide
00:15:48politicians who want to be
00:15:48the next governor,
00:15:50and they will duke it out
00:15:50with each other.
00:15:53Maybe one of them thinking,
00:15:53well, maybe I should run
00:15:56for the Vance seat in the U.S.
00:15:59Senate.
00:16:00But the others are going
00:16:00to fight within the party.
00:16:04They will determined
00:16:04be determined
00:16:06the the nominee by Trump
00:16:06and by Trump's endorsement.
00:16:10And so they're going to be
00:16:10trying to seek his endorsement
00:16:14going forward.
00:16:14And I think that all
00:16:14that started yesterday
00:16:17and we'll see it continue
00:16:17over the next two years.
00:16:19I you know,
00:16:19I wanted to make one other
00:16:21point
00:16:21about the party coalitions.
00:16:23The Democrats have a problem.
00:16:26And the problem is,
00:16:26once the base of your party
00:16:29changes, you then are sort of
00:16:29locked into that base,
00:16:34and you don't want
00:16:34to defy them
00:16:37when you are
00:16:37nominating candidates
00:16:37or running for reelection.
00:16:40And so they they have,
00:16:43I think, a lot of
00:16:44conversation,
00:16:44internal conversation
00:16:46they're going to have to
00:16:46engage in.
00:16:47But how do you tell women
00:16:47that?
00:16:50Well, we're not going to be
00:16:50as strongly supportive
00:16:53of freedom of choice
00:16:53than we've been in the past.
00:16:56I don't think that'll wash.
00:16:58Or how do you tell
00:16:58African Americans
00:17:02that we no longer want to have
00:17:02you have such
00:17:04a prominent place in our party
00:17:04because it's hurt us
00:17:08electorally.
00:17:09That,
00:17:09again, is not going to wash
00:17:11so that we're,
00:17:11in a way, trapped,
00:17:13just as the Republicans,
00:17:13I think, are trapped by Trump.
00:17:18And there may be a number
00:17:18of Republican legislators
00:17:22who would rather just kind of
00:17:22go on beyond Trump
00:17:25and go to a new world,
00:17:25in effect, without Trump.
00:17:28But he's not gonna
00:17:28let them do that.
00:17:30And if he adopts extreme
00:17:30measures,
00:17:35there could be blowback.
00:17:36And we need to remember that
00:17:36in 2018, again in 2020, again
00:17:41in 2022, there was more
00:17:41Democratic success,
00:17:45really,
00:17:45as a reaction to Trump.
00:17:48And will there be in 2026
00:17:48a similar reaction?
00:17:52I think it depends on what
00:17:52he does in the white House.
00:17:54And I think that that there
00:17:54probably will be a reaction
00:17:58to that.
00:17:59And the Democrats
00:17:59need to position themselves
00:18:01to take advantage of that.
00:18:03But again, they have to be
00:18:03careful with their base.
00:18:06Do you think?
00:18:06I agree,
00:18:06but I don't think that
00:18:11the Democratic Party,
00:18:13you know, telling women that,
00:18:13you know, we're not going to
00:18:17prioritize reproductive rights
00:18:17or telling African Americans
00:18:22that, you know,
00:18:23we kind of want you to play
00:18:23second fiddle at this point
00:18:26because, you know,
00:18:26I can get into all of that.
00:18:29That's national. Okay.
00:18:31But the issue is,
00:18:31is that ultimately,
00:18:34I think that folks
00:18:34would be more tolerant
00:18:37or more patient with the party
00:18:39if they get back
00:18:39to the basics of economics.
00:18:42And so
00:18:43what are you going to do
00:18:43about the price of eggs
00:18:47in milk
00:18:47besides remaining silent?
00:18:51Because
00:18:51that is not going to work.
00:18:53And I also think
00:18:53that there is a educational
00:18:57or political awareness
00:18:57or interest gap between,
00:19:02folks who,
00:19:02supported
00:19:03the Republican Party and folks
00:19:04who support the Democratic
00:19:04Party, because, you know,
00:19:08on college campuses
00:19:08and even on my social media,
00:19:11which are,
00:19:12you know,
00:19:12surrounded by a lot of people
00:19:13who at minimum attended
00:19:13college, right,
00:19:16that there was this, you know,
00:19:16confusion and bewilderment
00:19:20over the number,
00:19:20just the massive numbers
00:19:22of people who voted
00:19:22red as opposed to blue.
00:19:24And they were like,
00:19:25why would you do that
00:19:25when they were, you know,
00:19:27the Republicans were the ones
00:19:27that were behind that.
00:19:29But not if,
00:19:30you know, you didn't take any
00:19:30political classes
00:19:33and understand
00:19:34how policies work and how long
00:19:34they take to be implemented.
00:19:38If you're a low information
00:19:38voter
00:19:41or low
00:19:41political interest voter.
00:19:43The only thing that you know
00:19:43is that your eggs are $3.
00:19:46Now, when they used to be
00:19:46a dollar and 54 years ago,
00:19:50and that
00:19:52the Democrats have said
00:19:52absolutely nothing about this.
00:19:55The Republicans have.
00:19:57And I vividly remember
00:19:57when eggs were cheaper
00:19:59under the Trump
00:19:59administration.
00:20:01So I want to go back to that.
00:20:03And so until the Democrats
00:20:03have this, you know,
00:20:08coming to Jesus moment
00:20:08about their abandonment
00:20:12of economic stances
00:20:15and, you know,
00:20:15returning to that base
00:20:18and if not returning
00:20:18to that base,
00:20:20trying
00:20:20to figure out how to pivot.
00:20:22And I don't think
00:20:22it is possible to pivot.
00:20:25There is no pivoting.
00:20:26You have to go back
00:20:26to the bases
00:20:28because while there,
00:20:29I can see there being pause
00:20:29from like, socialists
00:20:33or from even more progressive
00:20:33parts
00:20:35like AOC
00:20:35or even Bernie Sanders.
00:20:37I still don't think
00:20:37it would be enough to appeal
00:20:41went to the Republican side,
00:20:41to the folks that have now
00:20:45but those same people
00:20:45will will undoubtedly
00:20:49be upset in 2026,
00:20:49because the Republican Party
00:20:54is not going to be able
00:20:55to do something about the
00:20:55price of eggs in six months.
00:20:59Yeah.
00:21:00So it comes down to
00:21:00to very basic things,
00:21:02like things
00:21:02you put on your table and,
00:21:04you know, you
00:21:05you both of you are dealing
00:21:05with college students
00:21:08who traditionally
00:21:10they've been kind of
00:21:10ideological ideology.
00:21:13I can't say that word.
00:21:14They've
00:21:14they've bought into ideologies
00:21:14and they've voted that way.
00:21:18But this time around,
00:21:20it seems like
00:21:20it's a little different.
00:21:22Maybe.
00:21:23Well, in both Ohio
00:21:23and nationwide, young people
00:21:26didn't vote
00:21:27Democratic at the levels that
00:21:27they had voted in the past.
00:21:31And I think that it was
00:21:31probably what Brianna
00:21:35was talking about, the
00:21:36that the economic situation
00:21:36doesn't appear
00:21:39to be as good coming out
00:21:39of the Biden administration
00:21:43as it was four years ago
00:21:43when they were 14 or whatever.
00:21:47And the problem with inflation
00:21:49is, and I think
00:21:50the Democrats have it
00:21:50handled the issue very well,
00:21:53is that once
00:21:53there is inflation that causes
00:21:56rising prices,
00:21:56they get locked in.
00:21:58At that point,
00:22:00you could stop the rise
00:22:00or you can hold the rise down.
00:22:04But those prices
00:22:04are still higher.
00:22:06And presidents
00:22:06don't control the,
00:22:10the what do I want to say
00:22:10the decrease in prices.
00:22:14And companies that manufacture
00:22:14goods and sell to the stars
00:22:17aren't
00:22:17going to cut their prices
00:22:19unless they have to.
00:22:20And they
00:22:20don't really have to.
00:22:23And you
00:22:23seem to be chomping at the bit
00:22:25to add something to that,
00:22:25cause,
00:22:26like, I'm agreeing
00:22:26because, like,
00:22:28four students at my campus
00:22:28and what I've been
00:22:31seeing talked about online,
00:22:31there appears to be like
00:22:33these three sets of people,
00:22:33three types of young voters.
00:22:37You had, you know,
00:22:37your ideologues who are issue
00:22:42voters, and for them,
00:22:42their wedge issue
00:22:45was Gaza and Palestine.
00:22:47And those were folks
00:22:47who said, you know what?
00:22:49Neither party is adopting
00:22:49a position in that I support.
00:22:53And so either
00:22:53I'm going to vote third party
00:22:57or I'm not going to vote
00:22:57at all. Right.
00:23:00And then you had young folks
00:23:00who were really excited
00:23:04about the possibility
00:23:05of having a woman president,
00:23:05and they voted for Harris.
00:23:09But that margin
00:23:09was really small.
00:23:12That was a tiny proportion
00:23:12of young voters.
00:23:15And then you had this largest
00:23:15vote, this largest
00:23:19proportion,
00:23:19which were folks who voted
00:23:21based on their understanding
00:23:21of their parents
00:23:23pocketbooks
00:23:23or their own pocketbooks
00:23:25and said, you know what?
00:23:27I think we can tolerate a lot
00:23:27of the problematic things
00:23:30that we've seen in the Trump
00:23:30campaign or, you know, what
00:23:33it is actually funny
00:23:33if we just decide to ignore it
00:23:36and we're going to support
00:23:36the Republican Party,
00:23:39because at least they're
00:23:39trying to address this issue.
00:23:42And even with students today,
00:23:42they were just talking
00:23:46like seeing those
00:23:47three groups of people
00:23:47talk about how they feel now,
00:23:51in light of the election
00:23:51result was really eye opening
00:23:56and that everyone chose
00:23:56not to agree to disagree.
00:24:00But everyone agreed that
00:24:00it was the Democrats fault.
00:24:04Like everyone
00:24:04today was talking about.
00:24:07This was a massive failure
00:24:07for the Democratic Party.
00:24:10And that is it for this week
00:24:10from my colleagues
00:24:12at the Statehouse News
00:24:12Bureau of Ohio Public Media.
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