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00:00:28KAREN: GOVERNOR KASICH
CELEBRATES A WIN, BUT THE
00:00:35PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN IS COMING
AT A COST TO OHIO TAXPAYERS.
00:00:38THE FOUR OTHER TOP OFFICEHOLDERS
IN OHIO TALK ABOUT THE BIG
00:00:40ISSUES, AND ABOUT WHO WILL TAKE
KASICH'S JOB NEXT.
00:00:44AND IT'S TIME TO PULL TOGETHER
TAX DOCUMENTS AND LOOK OVER THE
00:00:46CHANGES ON THE FORMS THIS YEAR.
THE TAX COMMISSIONER WILL WALK
00:00:49US THROUGH SOME OF THEM.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:00:51OHIO."
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00:00:55?
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00:00:58KAREN: IT'S BEEN A GOOD WEEK FOR
GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH, WHOSE 2ND
00:01:02PLACE FINISH IN THE NEW
HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY HAS VAULTED
00:01:04HIS CAMPAIGN INTO THE NATIONAL
SPOTLIGHT.
00:01:08HE'S NOW IN SOUTH CAROLINA, AND
SO IS HIS SECURITY DETAIL.
00:01:11THE ASSOCIATED PRESS LOOKED
THROUGH THE STATE'S ONLINE
00:01:14CHECKBOOK AND FOUND THE COSTS OF
OUT OF STATE TRAVEL SPENDING
00:01:18FROM THE OHIO HIGHWAY PATROL
HAVE ZOOMED UP FROM JUST UNDER
00:01:22$17,000 DURING KASICH'S FIRST
FULL YEAR IN OFFICE, TO MORE
00:01:25THAN $350,000 THIS FISCAL YEAR.
BOTH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND
00:01:30CAMPAIGN SAY THEY DON'T COMMENT
ON SECURITY-RELATED ISSUES.
00:01:34KASICH IS EXPECTED TO SIGN THE
BILL THAT STRIPS $1.3 MILLION
00:01:38FROM PLANNED PARENTHOOD, NOW
THAT THE BILL THAT DOES THAT
00:01:45PASSED THE HOUSE THIS WEEK.
IT WAS CHANGED WHEN IT WENT
00:01:49THROUGH THE SENATE LAST MONTH,
WHICH LED TO A DELAY IN A VOTE
00:01:51ON RE-APPROVING IT IN THE HOUSE.
REPRESENTATIVES OKAYED IT IN A
00:01:55MOSTLY PARTY-LINE VOTE AND SENT
IT ON TO KASICH THIS WEEK.
00:01:57KASICH HAS SAID BEFORE HE
SUPPORTS THE IDEA, AND IT'S
00:01:58THOUGHT SIGNING THE BILL WILL
HELP HIM WITH CONSERVATIVE
00:02:00REPUBLICANS IN SOUTH CAROLINA,
WHO VOTE IN THEIR PRIMARY ON
00:02:03FEBRUARY 20.
AND PLANNED PARENTHOOD SAYS IT'S
00:02:06TARGETING KASICH IN A
FIVE-FIGURE AD BUY.
00:02:09THOSE ONLINE ADS WILL APPEAR ON
FACEBOOK AND IN WEB NEWS SITES.
00:02:14IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT THE FOUR
REPUBLICAN EXECUTIVE
00:02:16OFFICEHOLDERS ARE TOGETHER IN
ONE ROOM.
00:02:20BUT IT HAPPENED THIS WEEK, AS IT
DOES MOST EVERY YEAR, AT THE
00:02:24ANNUAL OHIO ASSOCIATED PRESS'
LEGISLATIVE PREVIEW.
00:02:27SECRETARY OF STATE JON HUSTED,
TREASURER JOSH MANDEL, AUDITOR
00:02:29DAVE YOST AND ATTORNEY GENERAL
MIKE DEWINE TOOK QUESTIONS FROM
00:02:32REPORTERS FOR MORE THAN AN HOUR,
AND THEY COVERED A WIDE RANGE OF
00:02:35ISSUES.
AT THIS EVENT LAST YEAR, ALL
00:02:38FOUR HAD STATED STRONG
OPPOSITION TO THE MARIJUANA
00:02:42LEGALIZATION PROPOSAL THAT
BECAME ISSUE 3 ON LAST FALL'S
00:02:44BALLOT.
SO NATURALLY, THE FIRST QUESTION
00:02:47WAS ABOUT THEIR POSITIONS ON
MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
00:02:50DEWINE NOTED THAT CLINICAL
TRIALS FOR MEDICAL MARIJUANA ARE
00:02:53ONGOING REGARDLESS OF THE LACK
OF LEGISLATION IN OHIO, AND SAID
00:02:58HIS OFFICE HAS PROVIDED TO
LAWMAKERS A LIST OF WHAT OTHER
00:03:02STATES ARE DOING WHEN IT COMES
TO MEDICINAL POT.
00:03:06>> MY POSITION IS THIS IS UP TO
THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
00:03:11I THINK WE WILL SEE RECREATIONAL
USE OF MARIJUANA PROPONENTS
00:03:17CONTINUE TO COME BACK YEAR AFTER
YEAR AFTER YEAR.
00:03:18I KNOW THE LEGISLATURE IS
STARTING TO LOOK AT MEDICAL
00:03:22MARIJUANA.
WHAT WE DID IS BROKE IT DOWN,
00:03:30WHAT OTHER STATES HAVE DONE.
THE MOST LIBERAL TO THE MOST
00:03:36CONSERVATIVE.
YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, IT IS
00:03:41PRETTY EASY TO SEE WHERE THESE
DIFFERENT STATES HAVE COME DOWN.
00:03:43KAREN: YOST NOTED HIS EARLY
SUPPORT FOR SOME FORM OF MEDICAL
00:03:45MARIJUANA LEGISLATION, AND HE
SAYS HE DOESN'T THINK THERE'S A
00:03:47NEED FOR A LOT OF STUDIES TO
COME UP WITH IT.
00:03:49BUT HE STRONGLY OPPOSES
RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA, WHICH HE
00:03:51SAYS IS JUST LEGALIZATION FOR
THE PURPOSE OF GETTING STONED.
00:03:59AND HE HAS TOUGH WORDS ABOUT
PUTTING THE ISSUE BEFORE VOTERS
00:04:07AS A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.
>> "I AM WAY, WAY, WAY AGAINST
00:04:09PUTTING THIS IN THE
CONSTITUTION.
00:04:14WE HAVE TOO MUCH CRAFT IN THE
CONSTITUTION NOW.
00:04:16WE OUGHT TO START OVER.
-- TOO MUCH CRAP IN THE
00:04:24CONSTITUTION NOW.
WE NEED TO GET IT BACK TO A
00:04:25GOVERNING DOCUMENT THAT MEANS
SOMETHING INSTEAD OF THIS
00:04:29HODGEPODGE OF SPECIAL INTERESTS.
LET'S NOT BAD MARIJUANA TO IT --
00:04:35ADD MARIJUANA TO IT.
KAREN: MANDEL DIDN'T OFFER HIS
00:04:38OPINION ON MEDICAL MARIJUANA,
BUT SAID HE'S HEARD ONE CHAMBER
00:04:39IS LOOKING AT A PILOT PROGRAM
AND ANOTHER'S CONSIDERING A
00:04:41BROADER PROPOSAL, AND HE BROUGHT
UP THE NATIONAL GROUP THAT'S
00:04:43CONSIDERING A BALLOT ISSUE IN
NOVEMBER.
00:04:44>> I DON'T THINK IT IS
POLITICALLY MOTIVATED, BUT IT
00:04:50COULD BE.
REGARDS OF THE MOTIVATIONS
00:04:52THERE, CHANCES ARE IF IT'S ON
THE BALLOT, IT WILL HAVE SOME
00:04:56IMPACT IN THE PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTION THIS FALL.
00:04:57AS WE HAVE SEEN IN OTHER STATES
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THAT ISSUE
00:05:01HAS TENDED TO MOTIVATE YOUNGER
VOTERS TO THE POLLS AND FOLKS
00:05:06AROUND COLLEGE CAMPUSES.
A LOT OF IT WILL BE AND HOW THE
00:05:11LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN BY THIS
GROUP IN CALIFORNIA NDC -- AND
00:05:16D.C.
KAREN: HUSTED SAID HE FEELS IT'S
00:05:18IMPORTANT FOR LAWMAKERS TO
DEVELOP PROPOSALS WITH LAW
00:05:20ENFORCEMENT AND THE MEDICAL
COMMUNITY, AND SOON, BECAUSE
00:05:22EVEN THOUGH A BALLOT ISSUE TO
LEGALIZED BOTH MEDICAL AND
00:05:23RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA WAS
SOUNDLY DEFEATED BY VOTERS LAST
00:05:26FALL, HE'S CONFIDENT THE IDEA
WILL COME UP AGAIN.
00:05:31>> IT WILL BE BACK IN SOME FORM
OR THE OTHER.
00:05:35I DON'T WANT TO SEE, IN ANY WAY,
A PROPOSAL THAT COMES IN VIA THE
00:05:48BALLOT INITIATIVE THAT LEVERAGES
THE POPULARITY OF MEDICAL
00:05:50MARIJUANA TO SOMEHOW ALLOW FOR
THE USE OF RECREATIONAL
00:06:00MARIJUANA, ESPECIALLY IF IT IS
PLACED IN THE CONSTITUTION.
00:06:03KAREN: AND WHILE ON THE SUBJECT,
THEY WERE ASKED BY DAYTON DAILY
00:06:05NEWS REPORTER LAURA BISCHOFF IF
THEY'D EVER USED MARIJUANA.
00:06:10IF THEY HAD, WHEN WAS THE LAST
TIME?
00:06:12>> NO.
>> YES.
00:06:15PROBABLY 1978.
>> I HAVE NOT.
00:06:20I WILL TELL YOU THIS STORY THAT
WAS RECENTLY TOLD ME.
00:06:29I WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY ABOUT
THAT QUESTION AND THEY SAID TO
00:06:31ME COME OVER THE PAST 30 YEARS,
FOLKS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT HAVE
00:06:38BEEN LYING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT
THEY SMOKED POT DURING THE
00:06:40COLLEGE IN THE 1960'S.
WE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, -- 25
00:06:48YEARS FROM NOW COME A FOLKS WILL
BE LYING, BUT ABOUT THE
00:06:51OPPOSITE.
I DID NOT.
00:06:53>> YES.
1989.
00:06:57KAREN: I ASKED THE FOUR
OFFICEHOLDERS FOR THEIR THOUGHTS
00:07:02ON WHETHER IT'S TIME TO ENACT
CHANGES TO DRAWING THE MAP FOR
00:07:04CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS, NOW
THAT VOTERS HAVE APPROVED
00:07:05CHANGES IN THE WAY STATE
LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS ARE DRAWN.
00:07:10HOUSE SPEAKER CLIFF ROSENBERGER
SAID AFTER THE ELECTION THAT HE
00:07:13WANTED TO TAKE THAT SLOWLY, BUT
GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH SAID IN
00:07:15DECEMBER THAT OHIO NEEDS TO BE
AGGRESSIVE ABOUT ELIMINATING
00:07:18GERRYMANDERING.
HUSTED SAID HE WHOLEHEARTEDLY
00:07:21AGREES.
>> OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S SOMETHING
00:07:29I'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR MORE
THAN A DECADE.
00:07:30THE IDEA THAT ONE PARTICULAR
PARTY WOULD HAVE CONTROL OVER
00:07:37DRAWING THE LINES IS AN OUTDATED
THOUGHT PROCESS.
00:07:40YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL THE FAILURES
AND BROKENNESS WE HAVE AN
00:07:45GOVERNMENT -- CANNOT LOOK AT ALL
THE FAILURES AND BROKENNESS WE
00:07:52HAVE IN GOVERNMENT AND THINK
THAT COMPETITION IS IN GOOD.
00:07:57-- IS NOT GOOD.
KAREN: THE OTHER THREE HAD
00:08:01NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD OTHER
THAN THAT THEY AGREE WITH
00:08:02HUSTED.
THE FOUR OFFICEHOLDERS ARE ALL
00:08:03TERM LIMITED IN THEIR CURRENT
POSITIONS, AND IT'S NO SECRET
00:08:05NONE OF THEM ARE DONE WITH
POLITICS.
00:08:06SO, THEY WERE ASKED IF THEY WERE
RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR.
00:08:07YOST HINTED HE MAY TRY FOR
ATTORNEY GENERAL, SAYING, "I
00:08:14WANT TO BE MIKE DEWINE." SO,
DEWINE FOLLOWED UP.
00:08:16>> I THINK IT IS PREMATURE TO BE
TALKING ABOUT 2018.
00:08:22WE HAVE A PRESIDENT, VICE
PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF CONGRESS,
00:08:34A SENATE RACE, U.S. SENATE RACE
GOING ON.
00:08:35IT WOULD BE NOT THE RIGHT THING
TO DO TO BE MAKING A
00:08:41ANNOUNCEMENT -- AND ANNOUNCEMENT
ANNOUNCEMENT HERE TODAY.
00:08:50>> IT IS TOO EARLY TO MAKE
PLANS, BUT I WILL MAKE THIS
00:08:55ANNOUNCEMENT.
I WILL NOT BE A CANDIDATE FOR
00:08:57GOVERNOR IN 2018.
>> ANY PLANS?
00:09:01>> THAT IS A GREAT 2017 QUESTION
.
00:09:08THIS IS 2016.
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE IDEA
00:09:15THAT -- PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU
ARE THE SECRETARY OF STATE TIME
00:09:22TO OVERSEE ELECTIONS AND THE
MOST IMPORTANT SWING STATE IN
00:09:23THE COUNTRY COMING UP TO STAY
FOCUSED ON THE HERE AND NOW.
00:09:26-- YOU HAVE TO STAY FOCUSED ON
THE HERE AND NOW.
00:09:30KAREN: MANDEL DIDN'T HAVE ANY
COMMENT, BUT HE HAS FILED
00:09:32PAPERWORK TO RESTART HIS U.S.
SENATE CAMPAIGN, WHICH FAILED
00:09:35AGAINST DEMOCRAT SHERROD BROWN
IN 2012.
00:09:36THE FOUR WERE ALSO ASKED WHAT,
IF ANY, CHANGES THEY'D LIKE TO
00:09:38SEE WITH CHARTER SCHOOL
REGULATION AND OVERSIGHT.
00:09:39MANDEL PRAISED YOST'S WORK IN
IDENTIFYING FRAUD IN CHARTER
00:09:41SCHOOL.
>> I WOULD BE OPEN TO THE
00:09:47LEGISLATURE EXAMINING WHERE
THEIR NEXT TO BE TWEAKS AND
00:09:52CHANGES IN THE LAW TO MAKE SURE
THERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY.
00:09:53THE KEYWORD IS ACCOUNTABILITY.
KAREN: YOST SAID NEW CHARTER
00:09:57SCHOOL LEGISLATION PASSED LAST
YEAR WILL HELP, BUT HE ALSO
00:09:59CAUTIONED LAWMAKERS AND THOSE
CONSIDERING A RUN FOR GOVERNOR
00:10:01ABOUT MAKING TOO MANY CHANGES IN
EDUCATION.
00:10:02>> "THE FOLKS THAT ARE RUNNING
OUR SCHOOLS DESERVE TO HAVE A
00:10:11SYSTEM THAT DOESN'T CHANGE.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THE GOAL POST
00:10:16MOUNTED ON THE BACK OF A 4 X 4
PICKUP TRUCK AND WE ARE DRIVING
00:10:20AND ALL THE AROUND AND DOING
DONUTS IN THE FIELD EXPECTING
00:10:21PEOPLE TO KICK FIELD GOALS.
IT IS INSANE.
00:10:24KAREN: HUSTED SAID FAILURE
SHOULDN'T BE TOLERATED IN
00:10:27CHARTER SCHOOLS OR IN PUBLIC
SCHOOLS, BUT OHIO HAS TO DO
00:10:28BETTER ABOUT PREPARING KIDS FOR
A FUTURE BEYOND HIGH SCHOOL.
00:10:32>> THE CHARTER SCHOOL/PUBLIC
SCHOOL DISCUSSION IS AN
00:10:41IMPORTANT ONE, BUT NOT THE ONLY
CONVERSATION WE SHOULD BE HAVING
00:10:43ABOUT THE FUTURE OF EDUCATION IN
OHIO.
00:10:46OUR ECONOMIC FUTURE DEPENDS ON
IT.
00:10:50KAREN: DEWINE SAID OHIO HAS WHAT
HE CALLED "AMAZINGLY GOOD
00:10:52CHARTER SCHOOLS" AND ALSO, IN
HIS WORDS, "VERY VERY BAD
00:10:57SCHOOLS."
AND HE SAYS THE STATE HAS TO
00:11:02SERVE TWO GROUPS OF KIDS, BUT
NEEDS TO FOCUS ON ONE OF THEM.
00:11:05>> THERE'S ONE GROUP OF KIDS,
CALL THEM AT RISK, WHATEVER
00:11:10LABEL YOU WANT TO PUT ON THEM.
WHO, UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES
00:11:15ARE GOING TO HAVE A TOUGHER TIME
TO LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM.
00:11:20KAREN: THE FOUR OFFICEHOLDERS DO
ALL AGREE THAT KASICH SHOULD
00:11:23SIGN THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD
BILL.
00:11:25AND THEY ALSO AGREED THAT
EFFORTS TO EXTEND TERM LIMITS
00:11:28THAT ARE UNDER DISCUSSION IN THE
CONSTITUTIONAL MODERNIZATION
00:11:30COMMISSION WILL HAVE A TOUGH
TIME WITH VOTERS.
00:11:31THE MARCH 15 PRIMARY IN OHIO IS
JUST FIVE WEEKS AWAY.
00:11:35AND THAT, ALONG WITH THE RESULTS
FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY THIS
00:11:38WEEK, PROVIDED THE BACKDROP FOR
AN INTRIGUING DISCUSSION AT THE
00:11:41COLUMBUS METROPOLITAN CLUB THIS
WEEK FEATURING THE TOP MINDS IN
00:11:44OHIO POLITICAL ANALYSIS WHO ARE
ALSO HONORED AND RESPECTED
00:11:47NATIONALLY AS WELL.
OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY POLITICAL
00:11:51SCIENCE PROFESSOR EMERITUS HERB
ASHER SERVED AS BOTH MODERATOR
00:11:54AND PANELIST, ALONGSIDE TOM
SUDDES, OHIO UNIVERSITY
00:11:58JOURNALISM PROFESSOR AND
COLUMNIST FOR CLEVELAND.COM AND
00:12:01JOHN GREEN, THE DIRECTOR OF THE
BLISS INSTITUTE FOR APPLIED
00:12:04POLITICS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
AKRON.
00:12:07THE GROUP STARTED WITH A LOOK
BACK AT GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH'S
00:12:09SECOND PLACE FINISH IN NEW
HAMPSHIRE, ALONG WITH THE WIN BY
00:12:11DONALD TRUMP, WHICH GIVES TRUMP
17 DELEGATES, TED CRUZ 11, MARCO
00:12:16RUBIO 10, KASICH 5, JEB BUSH 4,
BEN CARSON 3 AND JIM GILMORE
00:12:19NONE.
ASHER STARTED WITH THE
00:12:26POSSIBILITY THAT NO ONE WILL GET
1,237 DELEGATES BY THE
00:12:29REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION
IN CLEVELAND IN MID-JULY.
00:12:33>> NOW, ONE PROSPECTIVE FANTASY
THAT EVERY POLITICAL SCIENTIST
00:12:40AND JOURNALIST WOULD ABSOLUTELY
LOVE WOULD BE A BROKERED
00:12:44CONVENTION.
WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT IN A LONG,
00:12:47LONG TIME.
NOTHING THAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY
00:12:52REDUCES THE LIKELIHOOD OF A
BROKERED CONVENTION AND MIGHT
00:12:58HAVE ACTUALLY INCREASED THE ODDS
BY JUST A LITTLE BIT.
00:13:00THERE WILL BE POLITICAL
SCIENTISTS AND JOURNALISTS WHO
00:13:08HAVE FASHIONED THEIR ENTIRE
CAREER ON A BROKERED CONVENTION.
00:13:09THAT WOULD BE JUST A GIFT.
KAREN: JOHN GREEN AND TOM SUDDES
00:13:16WEIGHED IN ON THAT AS WELL.
>> OUR COLLEAGUES IN POLITICAL
00:13:20SCIENCE AND IN JOURNALISM ARE
SALIVATING OVER THE PROSPECT OF
00:13:27A BROKERED CONVENTION IN
CLEVELAND.
00:13:28KAREN: THE PANEL AGREED THAT THE
DIFFERENCES IN THE RESULTS FROM
00:13:30IOWA TO NEW HAMPSHIRE SUGGEST
A LONGER NOMINATION BATTLE IS
00:13:35AHEAD, WHICH ASHER SAID WILL
BRING A WINDFALL TO COMMERCIAL
00:13:37RADIO AND TELEVISION STATIONS IN
THE BIG PRIMARY STATES.
00:13:39GREEN SAID NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS
PROVEN THERE'S A STRONG
00:13:42IDEOLOGICAL DIVISION ON
DEMOCRATIC SIDE.
00:13:45AND ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE,
THERE'S A STRONG INSURGENT
00:13:47CANDIDATE IN TRUMP.
>> BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE
00:13:54POTENTIAL OPPONENTS TO TRUMP,
I'M NOT SURE THAT YESTERDAY
00:13:57REALLY SETTLED ANYTHING.
THOSE OF US IN OHIO, MANY OF US
00:14:01ARE PLEASED TO SEE GOVERNOR
KASICH, BUT THERE'S NOT MUCH
00:14:06DIFFERENT BETWEEN KASICH'S
RESULTS AND MARCO RUBIO AND TED
00:14:11CRUZ.
YOU CAN IMAGINE THEIR CAMPAIGN
00:14:14ADVISERS AND SING TODAY, WE HAVE
A CHANCE.
00:14:18WE HAVE TO KEEP THIS THING
GOING.
00:14:19WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY SHOWN
THAT WE WILL HAVE A FEW MORE
00:14:30HIGHLY CONTESTED RACES.
KAREN: SUDDES ADDED THAT KASICH
00:14:31COULD USE THAT REBELLIOUS ANGLE
TO HIS ADVANTAGE.
00:14:35>> FUNDAMENTALLY, YOU COULD
ARGUE IN PRESENTATION TERMS THAT
00:14:41JOHN KASICH IS AN INSURGENT
BECAUSE HE IS SAYING I'M NOT
00:14:43LIKE THESE OTHER GUYS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT AMERICAN
00:14:45VALUES, TALKING ABOUT -- THAT
COMES ACROSS AS MORE AUTHENTIC.
00:14:54KAREN: THE PANELISTS ALSO
SPECULATED ON THE PROSPECTIVE OF
00:14:59A THIRD-PARTY RUN BY FORMER NEW
YORK MAYOR MICHAEL BLOOMBERG AND
00:15:01WHAT IT MIGHT MEAN FOR THE MAJOR
PARTY CANDIDATES AND EVENTUAL
00:15:03NOMINEES.
>> IN MORE EAST COAST AND WEST
00:15:10COAST STATES COME IT WILL TAKE
MORE VOTES FROM THE REPUBLICAN
00:15:16CANDIDATE.
IN OHIO, IT MIGHT TAKE FROM THE
00:15:23DEMOCRATS.
IT IS VERY HARD TO BE ELECTED AS
00:15:28A MINOR PARTY CANDIDATE.
IN FACT, IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED.
00:15:31ONE THING WE DO KNOW ABOUT
STRONG COME INDEPENDENT RUNS IS
00:15:37THAT THEY OFTEN DETERMINE WHICH
OF THE MAJOR PARTY CANDIDATES
00:15:40WINS.
>> MOST PEOPLE WHO KNOW ROB
00:15:50PORTMAN SEEM TO LIKE HIM, BUT HE
DOESN'T PULL UP BECAUSE MANY
00:15:53OHIOANS DON'T KNOW HIM.
-- POLL WELL BECAUSE MANY
00:16:02OHIOANS DON'T KNOW HIM.
THAT, HE SAID, OPENS THE DOOR
00:16:11FOR THE OHIO DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO
WIN THE SEAT, WHICH HE SAYS HAS
00:16:14CREATED WHAT HE CALLED AN
INTERESTING DYNAMIC IN THE
00:16:15PRIMARY BETWEEN FORMER GOVERNOR
TED STRICKLAND AND CINCINNATI
00:16:16CITY COUNCILMAN PG SITTENFELD.
AND TOM SUDDES AGREED WITH THE
00:16:19SENTIMENT THAT WAS EXPRESSED A
DAY LATER, BUT EARLIER IN THIS
00:16:20SHOW, FROM SECRETARY OF STATE
JON HUSTED, THAT IF LAWMAKERS
00:16:21DON'T COME UP WITH LEGISLATION
ON MEDICAL MARIJUANA, THE ISSUE
00:16:24WILL COME BACK BEFORE VOTERS,
POSSIBLY AS SOON AS THIS YEAR,
00:16:25AND IF NOT, THEN IN AN OFF-YEAR
ELECTION.
00:16:26THIS IS JUST THE KIND OF WEEKEND
MANY OHIOANS WILL WANT TO STAY
00:16:28INSIDE, KEEP WARM AND DREAM OF
SPRING.
00:16:31AND WITH SPRING COMES BASEBALL,
FLOWERS, SUNSHINE, AND TAXES.
00:16:37I'M PLEASED TO BE JOINED BY TAX
COMMISSIONER JOE TESTA TO TALK
00:16:38ABOUT WHAT'S NEW AND WHAT'S
STILL AROUND ON TAX FORMS THIS
00:16:40YEAR.
FIRST OF ALL, THE DEADLINE THIS
00:16:45YEAR IS APRIL 18, NOT APRIL 15
THIS YEAR.
00:16:4790% OF PEOPLE FILE THEIR TAXES
IN THAT WEEK BEFORE APRIL 18 OR
00:16:5415.
>> PRETTY HIGH.
00:16:57KAREN: WHY DO PEOPLE WAIT SO
LONG?
00:17:00JOE: IT DEPENDS.
WE TEND TO GET MORE FILINGS
00:17:03EARLY FOR REFUNDS AND THEN FOR
TAX DO, THEY USUALLY GO TOWARDS
00:17:09THE END.
IF YOU CAN HANG ONTO YOUR MONEY
00:17:13FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF MONTHS AND
THEN GIVE IT TO THE GOVERNMENT
00:17:16IN MID APRIL OR SO, THEY DO
THAT.
00:17:17KAREN: THERE IS A FEDERAL
HOLIDAY ON THE 15.
00:17:21NEW THIS YEAR, COUPLE THINGS
HAVE CHANGED.
00:17:25THERE IS TAX REDUCTION TO ALL
BRACKETS IN THE STATE.
00:17:29THAT WILL IMPACT FILERS THIS
YEAR.
00:17:32JOE: THIS CONTINUES TO BE GOOD
NEWS.
00:17:34THAT WILL DRIVE INCOME TAX RATES
DOWN.
00:17:38IT IS NOW THE LOWEST IN 30
YEARS.
00:17:41IT IS CONTINUING TO MOVE DOWN.
KAREN: YOU'VE GOT A SMALL
00:17:48BUSINESS TAX REDUCTION.AT
NEXT YEAR, GOES TO 100%.
00:17:55JOE: WE CALL THIS A TRANSITION
YEAR BECAUSE WE HAD 75% OF THE
00:18:01FIRST 250 LAST YEAR.
TO BUILD IN A FLAT TAX.
00:18:09FOR THAT INCOME ABOVE 250
COMMENT MAXES OUT AT 3%.
00:18:16NEXT YEAR, THE 100% OF THE FIRST
250 IS TOTALLY TAX-FREE.
00:18:22THE ONLY BUSINESS TAX IN TERMS
OF INCOME IS A FLAT 3%.
00:18:27KAREN: SOMETHING LAWMAKERS HAD
TO GO BACK AND FIX BECAUSE IT
00:18:33WAS PROBLEMATIC.
JOE: IT WAS NOT WORDED EXACTLY
00:18:36THE WAY THEY WANTED IT.
WE HAD TO GO BACK THIS SUMMER
00:18:41AND FIX IT.
THAT MADE IT ALL RIGHT, THANK
00:18:46GOODNESS.
KAREN: AN OVERWHELMING NUMBER
00:18:49OF PEOPLE WHO FILE WILL
GET REFUNDS.
00:18:53SOME WILL HAVE TO TAKE AN
IDENTITY TEST.
00:18:57THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT THE
HISTORICAL INFORMATION THEY HAD
00:19:03TO COME UP WITH.
PAST ADDRESSES AND MARRIAGES.
00:19:06TELL ME ABOUT THE IDENTITY TEST
THIS YEAR.
00:19:10JOE: LET ME DWELL ON LAST YEAR
JUST A SECOND.
00:19:14SOME OF THE REASONS WHY --
COMPUTERS ARE GREAT IN A LOT OF
00:19:20WAYS BUT THEY DON'T KNOW
EVERYTHING.
00:19:21IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE NAMES AT
THE SAME ADDRESS, THE COMPUTER
00:19:24DOES NOT KNOW.
THE PERSON MAY HAVE BEEN
00:19:28REMARRIED.
THERE'S TWO FEMALE NAMES WITH
00:19:31ONE MALE NAME.
THEY DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE
00:19:37NEW WIFE OR THE MOTHER OR THE
SISTER.
00:19:38THAT IS WHAT CAUSED A LOT OF
THOSE QUESTIONS.
00:19:42SOME OF IT WAS ANCIENT HISTORY.
WE HAD TO DEAL WITH ALL THAT AND
00:19:50WE RESPECT THAT.
WE'VE TAKEN ALL THOSE THINGS OUT
00:19:53OF THIS.
WE HAVE PAIRED IT DOWN AND
00:19:56APPROVED THE FRONT AND
PROCESSING.
00:20:01-- IMPROVED OF THE FRONT END
PROCESSING.
00:20:02FEWER PEOPLE WILL BE SENT A
LETTER TO TAKE THE QUIZ.
00:20:05PROBABLY CUT IN HALF OR MORE
THAN THAT.
00:20:08WITHOUT THOSE MORE DIFFICULT AND
LONG-TERM QUESTIONS, WE THINK
00:20:19THE WHOLE THING WILL GO A LOT
SMOOTHLY.
00:20:20SO FAR SO GOOD.
WE ARE STILL FAIRLY EARLY, BUT
00:20:26WE'VE HAD LITTLE BUMPS IN THE
ROAD SO FAR.
00:20:28KAREN: THE REASON YOU EVEN HAVE
THAT TEST IS BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE
00:20:31TRIED TO FILE FRAUDULENT TAX
RETURNS TO TAKE HALF $1 BILLION
00:20:38IN THE STATE SINCE 2014.
JOE: THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF,
00:20:45HALF $1 BILLION.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN STOLEN FROM
00:20:48THE STATE TREASURY HAD WE NOT
HAD THESE KINDS OF THINGS.
00:20:50CLEARLY, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT
STEP WE HAVE TAKEN IN THAT
00:20:56REGARD HAS BEEN THIS QUIZ.
IF WE DID NOT HAVE THIS QUIZ,
00:21:01PEOPLE WOULD BE STEALING A LOT
OF MONEY.
00:21:05WE ARE STILL HEARING STORIES
FROM OTHER STATES, THE IRS.
00:21:08WE HAVE A PRETTY ACTIVE GROUP
WORKING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
00:21:16CATCH SOME OF THESE PEOPLE AND
PUT THEM IN JAIL.
00:21:17THIS IS STILL GOING ON.
TECHNOLOGY HELPS EXPEDITE THE
00:21:21PROCESS.
IT ALSO GIVES THE BAD GUYS
00:21:26OPPORTUNITIES TO GET IN THERE
AND STEEL.
00:21:30THEY DO TRY.
WE ARE CONTINUING THAT QUIZ THIS
00:21:36YEAR.
KAREN: ONLINE SALES TAXES, THIS
00:21:43YEAR, AMAZON STARTED COLLECTING
THOSE.
00:21:44BUYING FROM OTHER ONLINE
RETAILERS, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO
00:21:48PAY THOSE TAXES.
JOE: I WON'T SPEAK OF ANY
00:21:54PARTICULAR COMPANY IN THE BUT
WHEN AMAZON STARTED DOING THAT,
00:21:56IT WAS VOLUNTARY.
FEDERAL LAW DOES NOT ALLOW YOU
00:22:03TO REQUIRE COLLECTION OF SALES
TAX ACROSS STATE LINES.
00:22:09THEY STARTED DOING THAT.
THEY'RE WORKING ON DISTRIBUTION
00:22:19CENTERS.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYBODY ELSE
00:22:23HAS TO.
THERE ARE SOME COMPANIES THAT
00:22:26DUPONT EARLY -- THAT DO
VOLUNTARILY.
00:22:29THERE'S A NUMBER OF COMPANIES
AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE
00:22:36JOINED A GROUP TO VOLUNTARILY
COLLECT AND READMINISTERED
00:22:41ACROSS STATE LINES.
IT IS NOT REQUIRED BY FEDERAL
00:22:45LAW.
KAREN: DO YOU GO LOOKING FOR IT,
00:22:51COLLECTED WHEN YOU FIND IT?
>> THE USE TAX SIDE, WHEN YOU
00:22:59AND I GO AND PURCHASE SOMETHING
ACROSS STATE LINES OR ON THE
00:23:01INTERNET AND THEY DO NOT COLLECT
SALES TAX, WE ARE OBLIGATED
00:23:08UNDER STATE LAW TO REMIT USE
TAX.
00:23:16MOST PEOPLE WHO DO DO IT PUT IT
ON THEIR 1040.
00:23:27KAREN: IS THERE THE THOUGHT THAT
THE STATE IS LOSING A LOT OF
00:23:32MONEY?
THERE'S A LOT OF ONLINE SHOPPING
00:23:34EVERY YEAR.
JOE: AND IT IS GROWING.
00:23:37THERE'VE BEEN SOME STUDIES --
THERE IS LEGISLATION.
00:23:44IT HAS NEVER GOTTEN TOTAL
TRACTION.
00:23:51IT PASSED THE SENATE, DID NOT
PASS THE HOUSE.
00:23:54IF IT WOULD PASS -- THERE'S
DISCUSSION AGAIN ABOUT IT TODAY.
00:24:03THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT ATTACHED
TO A BILL TODAY.
00:24:07I'M NOT HOLDING OUT A LOT OF
HOPE.
00:24:10THERE'S A LOT OF RESISTANCE TO
IT AND I UNDERSTAND THE
00:24:15RESISTANCE.
IF THAT WOULD PASS WITH THE
00:24:18LIMITATIONS PUT IN IT, IT COULD
MEAN AS MUCH AS ANOTHER $400
00:24:26MILLION A YEAR.
THERE IS A $1 MILLION MINIMUM IN
00:24:32THERE.
THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY JUST FOR
00:24:35OUR STATE.
YOU KNOW THE ARGUMENTS.
00:24:39BRICK-AND-MORTAR STORES -- THEY
HAVE SALES TAX.
00:24:45YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU
ARE MANAGING OR OWNING A
00:24:50BRICK-AND-MORTAR.
SOMEBODY ELSE DOES NOT, THAT
00:24:55SEEMS UNFAIR.
EVEN WORSE, WE'VE HEARD STORIES
00:24:59THAT PEOPLE WILL GO INTO A
BRICK-AND-MORTAR WITH THEIR
00:25:06SMART PHONE AND LOOK AT THE
PRODUCTS THEY HAVE FOR SALE AND
00:25:09BUY THE STUFF STANDING IN THEIR
STORE LOOKING AT THEIR PRODUCT.
00:25:14HOW INSULTING IS THAT?
WE UNDERSTAND.
00:25:18THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM FOR THEM.
A LOT OF BUSINESSES HAVE BECOME
00:25:25MORE AND MORE CREATIVE ABOUT
HAVING A STRONGER ONLINE
00:25:27PRESENCE.
WHICH IS FROM THE MARKETPLACE
00:25:33STANDPOINT THE RIGHT THING TO
DO.
00:25:34TAKING AWAY THAT ADVANTAGE THAT
ONLY ONLINE SELLERS HAVE.
00:25:40KAREN: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
APPRECIATE IT.
00:25:44AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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