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KAREN: SPRING BREAK IS OVER, AND
00:00:32LAWMAKERS ARE BACK AT WORK.
AND THEY'LL TAKE UP SOMETHING
00:00:34THAT'S NEVER HAD A REAL SHOT
BEFORE - MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
00:00:37A GROUP OF PARENTS AND
CAREGIVERS FIRE BACK AGAINST A
00:00:40POTENTIAL CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT
FILED AGAINST THE STATE BY
00:00:43DISABILITY ADVOCATES - THEY SAY
IT COULD HAVE DANGEROUS
00:00:46CONSEQUENCES.
AND A LAWMAKER PROPOSES THE
00:00:49FIRST CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM
MEASURE IN SIX YEARS - WE'LL DIG
00:00:51INTO THAT.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:00:53OHIO."
LAWMAKERS WERE BACK AT WORK AT
00:00:58THE STATEHOUSE THIS WEEK, WITH A
FLOOD OF COMMITTEE HEARINGS,
00:01:01PRESS CONFERENCES AND OTHER
BUSINESS - INCLUDING A BILL ON
00:01:04MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
MORE ON THAT IN A FEW MINUTES.
00:01:08REPUBLICAN LEADERS FROM THE
HOUSE AND SENATE STARTED THE
00:01:12WEEK BY ROLLING OUT A
MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET THAT
00:01:15WILL INVEST IN CONSTRUCTION AND
IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FROM
00:01:17INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE ARTS.
AND LEADERS BELIEVE THE BILL
00:01:20COULD BE SIGNED BY THE END OF
THE MONTH.
00:01:24THE CAPITAL BUDGET BILL DOLES
OUT $2.6 BILLION TO SUPPORT
00:01:27IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, AND
REPUBLICAN LEADERS SAY IT HAS
00:01:30MORE MONEY THAN USUAL GOING TO
RURAL AREAS.
00:01:32HOUSE SPEAKER CLIFF ROSENBERGER
SAYS THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS ALL
00:01:35ABOUT MAKING INVESTMENTS IN
OHIO'S COMMUNITIES.
00:01:38THE BILL INCLUDES $650 MILLION
FOR LOCAL SCHOOL BUILDING
00:01:43IMPROVEMENTS, $428 MILLION FOR
OHIO'S 37 PUBLIC HIGHER
00:01:47EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS, PLUS $56
MILLION TO THE STATE UNIVERSITY
00:01:51SYSTEM, AND $500 MILLION TO
IMPROVE LOCAL ROADS, BRIDGES AND
00:01:55WATER-SUPPLY SYSTEMS - INCLUDING
UP TO $100 MILLION FOR THE CLEAN
00:01:59OHIO FUND FOR BROWNFIELDS AND
GREENSPACE, $275 MILLION FOR
00:02:04DAMS, PARKS, TRAILS, WATERWAYS
AND WILDLIFE, $100 MILLION FOR
00:02:08HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AND
$160 MILLION FOR ECONOMIC AND
00:02:12CULTURAL DEVELOPMENT.
LAWMAKERS TOOK UP SEVERAL ISSUES
00:02:15THIS WEEK IN COMMITTEE,
INCLUDING GUN LAWS, ABORTION AND
00:02:19FETAL REMAINS, CIVIL ASSET
FORFEITURE, DRUG TESTING FOR
00:02:23THOSE RECEIVING UNEMPLOYMENT
BENEFITS, PROTECTING
00:02:26CLERGYMEMBERS FROM LAWSUITS IF
THEY REFUSE TO PERFORM SAME-SEX
00:02:30WEDDINGS AND PEDIATRIC BRAIN
CANCER - THAT HEARING FEATURED
00:02:32FORMER UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN
COACH LLOYD CARR, WHO LOST HIS
00:02:35GRANDSON TO A RARE FORM OF THAT
DISEASE.
00:02:38LEGISLATORS ALSO PASSED A FEW
BILLS.
00:02:41IN THE HOUSE, LAWMAKERS
OVERWHELMING APPROVED A BILL
00:02:44THAT THEY SAY WILL ALLOW
STUDENTS TO EXPRESS THEIR
00:02:48RELIGIOUS BELIEFS IN SCHOOL -
AND THAT THEY SAY WILL RELIEVE
00:02:50DISTRICTS OF FEARS OF LAWSUITS.
AND SENATORS PASSED BILLS TO
00:02:53EXPAND THE DEFINITION OF
STALKING, TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO
00:02:56WORKERS COMPENSATION BENEFITS
FOR FIREFIGHTERS SUFFERING FROM
00:02:59CANCER.
A BUDGET PROPOSAL BY GOV. JOHN
00:03:03KASICH WOULD REQUIRE THOUSANDS
OF PHARMACY TECHNICIANS TO BE
00:03:06REGISTERED BY THE STATE AS PART
OF EFFORTS TO FIGHT OHIO'S
00:03:09ADDICTIONS EPIDEMIC.
KASICH BROUGHT THAT UP AS PART
00:03:12OF SEVERAL BUDGET PROPOSALS TO
REDUCE RECORD NUMBERS OF
00:03:15OVERDOSE DEATHS FROM PAINKILLERS
AND HEROIN.
00:03:20THE MENTIONED IT IN HIS STATE OF
THE STATE SPEECH IN MARIETTA
00:03:24LAST WEEK.
>> WE HAVE TO REGISTER PHARMACY
00:03:31TECHNICIANS TO MAKE SURE THEY
RECEIVED THE EDUCATION AND
00:03:32TRAINING THAT CAN HELP TO
IDENTIFY AND PREVENT OPIATE
00:03:35ABUSE AND WHICH ALSO ALLOWS OHIO
TO TRACK AND DISCIPLINE THAT
00:03:38ACTORS.
KAREN: THE OHIO PHARMACY BOARD
00:03:41SAYS PHARMACY TECHNICIANS WERE
RESPONSIBLE FOR A THIRD OF
00:03:44PHARMACY DRUG THEFTS OVER THE
PAST THREE YEARS.
00:03:46THE STATE ESTIMATES ABOUT 42,000
PHARMACY TECHNICIANS CURRENTLY
00:03:49WORK IN OHIO AND ARE SUBJECT
ONLY TO EMPLOYER BACKGROUND
00:03:53CHECKS.
OTHER MEASURES WOULD ALLOW MORE
00:03:57METHADONE CLINICS, LIMIT THE
LENGTH OF PAINKILLER
00:04:00PRESCRIPTIONS, AND PERMIT THE
PHARMACY BOARD TO LICENSE SOLE
00:04:03MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS.
AND WE HAVE AN UPDATE TO A STORY
00:04:06WE TALKED ON THIS SHOW A FEW
WEEKS AGO - THE STATE BOARD OF
00:04:10EDUCATION IS LOOKING OVER THE
QUALIFICATIONS OF 44 PEOPLE
00:04:12WHO'VE APPLIED TO BE THE NEXT
STATE SCHOOLS SUPERINTENDENT.
00:04:15BOARD PRESIDENT TOM GUNLOCK SAID
MEMBERS WILL HAVE UNTIL APRIL 28
00:04:18TO PICK FIVE CANDIDATES THAT
THEY WOULD LIKE TO INTERVIEW.
00:04:21THE GOAL IS TO COMPLETE
INTERVIEWS IN MAY AND SELECT A
00:04:25SUPERINTENDENT SHORTLY AFTER,
.
00:04:30THE POSITION OF SUPERINTENDENT
OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION HAS BEEN
00:04:34OPEN SINCE RICHARD ROSS RETIRED
AT THE END OF DECEMBER.
00:04:36NOW THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS BACK
IN SESSION, ADVOCACY GROUPS ARE
00:04:38DESCENDING EN MASSE TO LOBBY
LAWMAKERS ON THEIR ISSUES.
00:04:40THIS WEEK INCLUDED IMMUNIZATION
ADVOCACY DAY, THE OHIO LIBRARY
00:04:42COUNCIL LEGISLATIVE DAY, AND
LOBBY DAYS FOR THE OHIO BANKERS
00:04:46LEAGUE, FREEDOM OF CHOICE OHIO
AND OHIO RIGHT TO LIFE.
00:04:49AND ALSO SHARING THEIR CONCERNS
- ACTIVISTS WITH OHIOANS TO STOP
00:04:52EXECUTIONS.
THEY BROUGHT A POWERFUL AND
00:04:56PERSUASIVE ARSENAL - SOME OF THE
NINE MEN WHO WERE SENTENCED TO
00:05:01DIE AND HAVE NOW BEEN EXONERATED
FOR THE CRIMES THEY ALWAYS SAID
00:05:05THEY DIDN'T COMMIT, INCLUDING
DERRICK JAMISON.
00:05:08AND YOU MAY REMEMBER KWAME AJAMU
- I SPOKE TO HIM AND ANOTHER
00:05:11EXONERATED DEATH ROW SURVIVOR,
JOE D'AMBROSIO, ON THIS SHOW A
00:05:13YEAR AGO.
THE ACTIVISTS FEEL NOW IS THE
00:05:17TIME TO PUSH FOR A BAN ON THE
DEATH PENALTY.
00:05:19OHIO'S NEXT EXECUTION IS SET FOR
JANUARY 2017.
00:05:23THE STATE WENT TO A SINGLE-DRUG
EXECUTION METHOD AFTER A
00:05:26PROBLEMATIC EXECUTION IN 2014,
BUT THE DRUG THAT THAT WAS
00:05:30APPROVED FOR USE IS UNAVAILABLE,
AND THOUGH A LAW WAS PASSED TO
00:05:33ENCOURAGE COMPOUNDING PHARMACIES
TO MAKE IT, NONE HAVE.
00:05:36SO UNLESS THE STATE FINDS A WAY
TO ACQUIRE THE DRUG OR CHANGES
00:05:40THE METHOD OF EXECUTION, THERE
WON'T BE ANY EXECUTIONS IN THE
00:05:43FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
AFTER MONTHS OF TESTIMONY, THE
00:05:47OHIO HOUSE'S TASK FORCE STUDYING
MEDICAL MARIJUANA HAS MADE ITS
00:05:51RECOMMENDATIONS - AND THEY
INCLUDE WHAT COULD BE THE
00:05:54FIRST-EVER LEGISLATION WITH
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP SUPPORT TO
00:05:58PERMIT MEDICAL MARIJUANA IN
OHIO.
00:06:00THE BILL COMES OUT OF A SERIES
OF WEEKLY HEARINGS THAT WENT ON
00:06:03FOR NEARLY 25 HOURS WHERE MORE
THAN A HUNDRED PEOPLE TESTIFIED
00:06:06BOTH FOR AND AGAINST MEDICAL
POT.
00:06:09REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE KIRK
SCHURING SAYS THE BILL CREATES A
00:06:13NINE-MEMBER MEDICAL MARIJUANA
CONTROL COMMISSION AND LAYS OUT
00:06:17OTHER SPECIFICS OF HOW A MEDICAL
MARIJUANA PLAN WOULD WORK IN
00:06:20OHIO.
FOR INSTANCE, SCHURING SAYS ONLY
00:06:23LICENSED DOCTORS WILL BE ALLOWED
TO RECOMMEND MEDICAL MARIJUANA
00:06:26UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS.
REP. SHURING: PHYSICIANS WHO ARE
00:06:33CERTIFIED BY THE MEDICAL
MARIJUANA CONTROL COMMISSION
00:06:38WILL HAVE TO REPORT EVERY 90
DAYS ON THE TYPE OF PATIENTS
00:06:42THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED MEDICAL
MARIJUANA TO, THE TYPES OF
00:06:46CONDITIONS THAT THEIR PATIENTS
ARE SUFFERING, AND WHY THEY
00:06:52RECOMMENDED MEDICAL MARIJUANA IN
LIEU OF MORE CONVENTIONAL FORMS
00:06:57OF MEDICINE, AND WHAT FORMS OF
MEDICINE AND WHAT FORMS OF
00:07:00MEDICAL MARIJUANA THEY ALSO
RECOMMENDED.
00:07:02KAREN: SCHURING SAYS HOME GROWN
MARIJUANA WILL NOT BE PERMITTED,
00:07:05BUT THAT A VARIETY OF FORMS OF
MEDICAL MARIJUANA WILL BE
00:07:07ALLOWED, INCLUDING EDIBLES,
PATCHES, PLANT MATERIAL, AND
00:07:09OILS.
AND SCHURING SAYS BUSINESSES
00:07:12THAT HAVE DRUG POLICIES FOR
WORKERS WILL STILL BE ABLE TO
00:07:15ENFORCE THOSE POLICIES.
ANOTHER ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF
00:07:19THE TASK FORCE IS JIMMY GOULD,
THE FUNDRAISER FOR LAST FALL'S
00:07:23FAILED BALLOT ISSUE THAT SOUGHT
TO LEGALIZE MEDICAL AND
00:07:25RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA.
MASON: WE ALL DIDN'T START
00:07:30NECESSARILY AGREEING WITH ONE
ANOTHER TO SAY THE LEAST BUT I'M
00:07:35PROUD OF OUR GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF WORK
00:07:38AHEAD OF US BUT WE WANT
REGULATION, WE WANT SOMETHING
00:07:41RIGHT AND WILL HELP THE PEOPLE
OF OHIO.
00:07:44WE DO NOT WANT PEOPLE TO LEAVE
THE STATE TO GET SOMETHING ELSE
00:07:47WHICH THEY NEED.
KAREN: AND HOUSE SPEAKER CLIFF
00:07:49ROSENBERGER HINTED THAT HE
EXPECTS THE VARIOUS GROUPS THAT
00:07:52ARE CONSIDERING BALLOT ISSUES ON
THE TOPIC TO ABANDON THEIR
00:07:54EFFORTS AND JOIN THIS ONE.
>> ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE PROCESS
00:07:58IN WHICH WE HAVE PUT FORWARD
IN WHICH WE ARE ALL COMMITTED TO
00:08:02DO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE, AND I
CONTINUE TO ISSUE AND ASK THOSE
00:08:07THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT HAVE
INTEREST TO COME AND PARTICIPATE
00:08:11IN THE PROCESS AND BE A PART OF
THIS TASK HORSE IN WHICH WE HAVE
00:08:15STARTED ON MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
ADDITIONALLY, I THINK WE HAVE
00:08:21COME UP WITH A GOOD PLAN MOVING
FORWARD, AND FRANKLY, ANYTHING
00:08:24SHORT OF THIS WOULD BE
IRRESPONSIBLE.
00:08:27KAREN: BUT MANY PEOPLE IN GROUPS
THAT HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR
00:08:30LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA DON'T
TRUST THE LEGISLATURE.
00:08:32MASON TVERT IS WITH OHIOANS FOR
MEDICAL MARIJUANA, A NATIONAL
00:08:34ORGANIZATION WORKING TO PUT A
MEDICAL MARIJUANA ISSUE BEFORE
00:08:36OHIO VOTERS THIS FALL.
MASON: IT WOULD BE FOOLISH TO
00:08:40WAIT AROUND AND EXPECT THE
LEGISLATURE TO ACCOMPLISH
00:08:43SOMETHING IT HASN'T ACCOMPLISHED
FOR THE PAST TWO DECADES.
00:08:45WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND
IF THE LEGISLATURE, IN THE
00:08:48MEANTIME, PASSES A GOOD LAW, WE
CAN RE-EVALUATE THIS LATER.
00:08:51KAREN: AND THAT'S NOT THE ONLY
POSSIBLE BALLOT ISSUE.
00:08:54THIS WEEK THE STATE BALLOT BOARD
CERTIFIED A MEDICAL MARIJUANA
00:08:57PROPOSAL FROM GRASSROOTS OHIO,
WHICH WANTS TO LEGALIZE MEDICAL
00:09:00MARIJUANA AND HEMP PRODUCTION,
BUT WITHOUT A REGULATORY
00:09:03STRUCTURE.
THE GROUP SAYS IF THEIR
00:09:06AMENDMENT PASSES, THAT WILL COME
LATER WITH LEGISLATION.
00:09:10BY THE WAY, SECRETARY OF STATE
HUSTED SAYS THE GRASSROOTS OHIO
00:09:13PROPOSAL IS THE SEVENTH
MARIJUANA RELATED ISSUE THAT'S
00:09:15BEEN EXAMINED BY THE BALLOT
BOARD.
00:09:19A GROUP REPRESENTING DISABLED
OHIOANS FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST
00:09:22THE STATE LAST MONTH, CLAIMING
THAT TENS OF THOUSANDS ARE BEING
00:09:25SEGREGATED AND ARE OR ARE AT
RISK OF BEING WHAT THEY CALLED
00:09:28"NEEDLESSLY INSTITUTIONALIZED"
BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT OHIO
00:09:31RUNS ITS SERVICES FOR DISABLED
PEOPLE.
00:09:37YOU HEARD AN INTERVIEW ON THAT
ON THIS SHOW LAST MONTH.
00:09:40BUT NOT ALL DISABILITY ADVOCATES
JOINED IN THIS LAWSUIT.
00:09:43A GROUP CALLING ITSELF THE
DISABILITY ADVOCACY ALLIANCE HAS
00:09:46FIRED BACK, SAYING THAT THIS
LAWSUIT IS HARMFUL AND PUTS THE
00:09:48HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF
DISABLED OHIOANS IN JEOPARDY.
00:09:51CAROLINE LAHRMANN SPEAKS FOR THE
DISABILITY ADVOCACY ALLIANCE.
00:09:55CAROLINE: I'M A PARENT.
I HAVE TWINS THAT ARE SEVERELY
00:10:02MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY
DISABLED.
00:10:03I AM NOT A LAWYER, I AM JUST
FIGHTING FOR THE RIGHTS OF MY
00:10:07CHILDREN.
I GO TO BED SOMETIMES AT NIGHT
00:10:10VERY SCARED ABOUT THEIR FUTURE.
KAREN: LAHRMANN SAYS THE
00:10:12DISABILITY ADVOCACY ALLIANCE IS
AN ALL-VOLUNTEER GROUP MADE UP
00:10:15OF PARENTS, CAREGIVERS, AND
OTHERS WHO FEEL THE DISABILITY
00:10:17RIGHTS OHIO LAWSUIT WILL CAUSE
LIFE-ALTERING AND DANGEROUS
00:10:21CONSEQUENCES", AND SHE'S ASKING
GOV. JOHN KASICH TO INTERVENE.
00:10:24CAROLINE: THERE ARE OHIOANS THAT
CHOOSE A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE
00:10:36BECAUSE THEY NEED 24-HOUR
NURSING, MORE SUPERVISION FROM
00:10:42CARE STAFF, ALSO FROM
HIGHER-LEVEL CARE STAFF THAT
00:10:47MAYBE HAS MORE EXPERIENCE FROM
THE INDIVIDUAL FIRST HIRED INTO
00:10:50THE FACILITY.
SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE
00:10:55COMPLEX NEEDS, SOME ARE ON
RESPIRATORS, SOME OF THEM HAVE
00:10:58BEHAVIORAL ISSUES WHERE THEY CAN
ACT OUT AND HARM THEMSELVES OR
00:11:02OTHERS.
THESE INDIVIDUALS CANNOT NOT
00:11:06NECESSARILY HANDLE A COMMUNITY
SETTING WHERE THERE IS LESS CARE
00:11:09STAFF AVAILABLE DURING THE DAY
TO HELP THEM MANAGE THEIR
00:11:11DIFFERENT ISSUES.
KAREN: DISABILITY RIGHTS OHIO
00:11:19SAYS IT IS ALL ABOUT OFFERING
CHOICE.
00:11:20WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT?
CAROLINE: WE SUPPORT THE FULL
00:11:23CONTINUUM OF CARE BECAUSE WE
RECOGNIZE THEIR INDIVIDUAL THAT
00:11:27CAN BENEFIT FROM A FULL
CONTINUUM SETTING AND OTHERS
00:11:30THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM A FELLOW
-- FACILITY SETTING.
00:11:32HOWEVER, THE ECONOMIC WORK --
AND I SAID THAT TO MR. KIRKLAND
00:11:37THAT DAY.
WHEN YOU START TAKING MONEY AWAY
00:11:40FROM THESE FACILITIES AND
PUTTING THEM INTO THE COMMUNITY,
00:11:43THESE FACILITIES CANNOT OPERATE
ANYMORE.
00:11:45THEY ARE ALREADY OPERATING VERY
MUCH CLOSE TO THE VEST.
00:11:49THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXCESS
MONEY AROUND.
00:11:53SO WHEN YOU TAKE MORE MONEY
AWAY, SOMETHING WILL HAVE TO
00:11:57CLOSE.
THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING
00:11:59FOR, A SETTLEMENT WHERE MONEY IS
TAKEN OUT OF THE FACILITY-BASED
00:12:04SYSTEM AND PUT INTO THE
COMMUNITY SYSTEM.
00:12:05WE WANT THERE TO BE SUFFICIENT
MONEY FOR ALL TO HAVE THE
00:12:09SERVICES THEY NEED.
RIGHT NOW THE STATE OF OHIO DOES
00:12:13OFFER OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE.
THE FAMILIES THAT ARE
00:12:18PLAINTIFFS, WE HAVE NO OBJECTION
TO WHAT THEY ARE DOING, WE JUST
00:12:20DO NOT WANT IT TO BE HANDLED ON
A CLASS BASIS.
00:12:22KAREN: SHE SAYS SHE FEELS THE
STATE HAS STRUCK A GOOD BALANCE
00:12:32BETWEEN COMMUNITY CARE AND
FACILITY CARE FOR OHIOANS.
00:12:35IT'S BEEN SIX YEARS SINCE THE
CONTROVERSIAL CAMPAIGN FINANCE
00:12:39CASE CITIZENS UNITED V. THE
FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION.
00:12:44FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THOSE SIX
YEARS, STATE LAWMAKERS ARE
00:12:47LOOKING OVER PARTS THAT COULD
MEAN BIG CHANGES.
00:12:53THE BILL FROM CINCINNATI
REPUBLICAN REP. JOHN BECKER
00:12:56WOULD:
PHASE IN ELECTRONIC FILING FOR
00:12:58LOCAL CANDIDATES.
ROUND UP DONATIONS TO THE
00:13:00NEAREST $100.
CHANGE THE DATE OF POST-GENERAL
00:13:03REPORTS TO JANUARY INSTEAD OF
DECEMBER, TO GET THE FULL
00:13:05CALENDAR YEAR.
ALLOW USE OF BANK STATEMENTS TO
00:13:08VERIFY SPENDING, BUT NOT REQUIRE
THEM.
00:13:11END DETAILED REPORTING OF
EXPENSES OF LESS THAN $100.
00:13:16STOP REQUIREMENT THAT THOSE WHO
RAISE LESS THAN $2000 FILE
00:13:19REPORTS.
ELIMINATE NEED TO LIST DATES OF
00:13:21FUNDRAISING EVENTS.
CUT OUT REQUIREMENT THAT
00:13:25SECRETARY OF STATE AUDIT EVERY
CANDIDATE'S REPORT.
00:13:30I WAS PLEASED TO WELCOME REP.
JOHN BECKER TO THE SHOW TO TALK
00:13:34ABOUT HIS BILL THIS WEEK.
WHY DO YOU SUPPOSE IT HAS BEEN
00:13:38SO LONG SINCE THERE HAVE BEEN
CAMPAIGN FINANCE DISCUSSIONS?
00:13:43>> I DON'T KNOW, I HAVE NOT HAD
ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH MY
00:13:48COLLEAGUES, THIS GREW OUT OF ME
HAVING LUNCH WITH THE SECRETARY
00:13:51OF STATE'S OFFICE.
HE HAS SINCE MOVED ON BUT AT THE
00:13:55TIME WAS DIRECTOR.
WE WERE TALKING FOR YEARS ABOUT
00:13:59THIS DIFFERENT ISSUE ABOUT
CAMPAIGN FINANCE.
00:14:01THINK THAT HE HAS TO DO WITH IN
HIS OFFICE, THINGS THAT I HAVE
00:14:05TO DEAL WITH AS A CANDIDATE.
WE COULD FIX ALL OF THIS
00:14:12WITH A NEW LAW, SO WE DECIDED TO
HAMMER THINGS OUT.
00:14:14WE LOOKED AT HIS PERSPECTIVE,
WHAT I THOUGHT THINGS SHOULD BE,
00:14:19AND WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT ON A
BILL IS, AND THAT IS HOW THIS
00:14:23WAS INTRODUCED.
HOPING TO AMENDMENTS.
00:14:25KAREN: SOME OF THE TRANSPARENCY
ADVOCATES I TALKED TO SAY THEY
00:14:30LIKE IS THE ELECTRONIC FILING.
REP. BECKER: I LIKE IT ONLINE,
00:14:36TOO.
IT IS TIME TO BRING THE
00:14:37CANDIDATES INTO THE MODERN
WORLD.
00:14:38KAREN: LOCAL CANDIDATES, SCHOOL
BOARD, ALL THE WAY TO THAT
00:14:42LEVEL.
REP. BECKER: ONE OF THE CONCERNS
00:14:46WITH THE LOCAL CANDIDATES OUT IN
EARLY AREAS, NOT HAVING INTERNET
00:14:48ACCESS.
WE TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE RUNNING
00:14:51FOR VILLAGE COUNCIL THAT WILL
SPEND SMALL AMOUNTS OF MONEY.
00:14:54THAT IS WHERE WE CAME UP WITH
HIS $2000 EXCLUSION.
00:14:57IF YOU ARE SOPHISTICATED ENOUGH
TO RUN A CAMPAIGN AND YOU ARE
00:15:02GOING TO SPEND $2000, AND YOU
ARE GOING TO FIND A LIBRARY TO
00:15:07FILE.
KAREN: YOUR BILL WOULD ELIMINATE
00:15:12A LISTING OF DATES AND
FUNDRAISING EVENTS.
00:15:13THERE ARE SOME THAT MAY THINK
THAT IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE
00:15:16DATE OF A FUNDRAISING EVENT, YOU
CAN START LINING UPDATES AND
00:15:20START TO SEE PATTERNS.
WHY DID YOU ELIMINATE DATES?
00:15:21REP. BECKER: IT WAS A MATTER OF
WHEN WE FILL OUT THE REPORTS, WE
00:15:27HAVE TO SPECIFY, DID THIS
CONTRIBUTION, AS A RESULT OF AN
00:15:30EVENT OR SOME OTHER SOURCE?
THEN YOU WOULD CODE THAT.
00:15:35WE CAME TO THINK, WHO CARES
WHERE IT CAME FROM.
00:15:39YOU GET A CHECK, YOU REPORT IT.
ADDITIONAL SIMPLIFICATION WAS,
00:15:46WHAT DO WE CONSIDER TO MINIMUS?
DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO REPORT
00:15:50$.11, OR A CHECK FOR $10?
IS IT NECESSARY TO REPORT WHO
00:15:55THAT CHECK CAME FROM AND WHAT
THE DATE IS?
00:15:57WE DECIDED NO.
ANYTHING LESS THAN $100
00:16:02AGGREGATED -- EVERYTHING GETS
REPORTED BY JUST REDUCES THE
00:16:05AMOUNT OF DETAIL AND CAMPAIGN
CLUTTER.
00:16:07KAREN: THE IDEA OF ELIMINATING
THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE
00:16:12CANDIDATE REPORT THE AUDIT, THE
STATE SAYS THEY ARE DOING FINE,
00:16:16THEY DON'T WANT TO CHANGE.
REP. BECKER: THAT IS FINE WITH
00:16:20ME.
IT IS A MATTER OF GIVING THEM
00:16:21MORE FLEXIBILITY.
YOU CAN DETERMINE STAFFING AND
00:16:27WHAT LEVEL OF AUDIT THEY CAN DO.
IF THEY WANT TO DO EVERY
00:16:29CANDIDATE -- WHICH THEY ARE
REQUIRED TO DO -- DO THEY HAVE
00:16:35STAFFING TO DO A THOROUGH AUDIT
OF EACH CANDIDATE?
00:16:36THEY CAN DO SOME DEGREE OF
AUDIT.
00:16:39THIS BILL ALLOWS THEM TO SAY, WE
DON'T HAVE STAFFING TO DO
00:16:46THOROUGH AUDITS ON EVERY
CANDIDATE, SO WE WILL LOOK AT --
00:16:48AND I AM MAKING THIS UP --
EXPENSES OVER $10,000, WHATEVER
00:16:52THE AMOUNT IS.
AS OPPOSED TO DIGGING INTO THE
00:16:56ACCURACY OF THE REPORT.
IT GIVES THEM MORE FLEXIBILITY.
00:16:59WE ARE GOING TO AUDIT EVERYBODY
THAT RAN FOR SUCH AND SUCH
00:17:04OFFICE, AND IT HAS TO BE
EVERYBODY.
00:17:06SO THEY CANNOT BE PICKING ON ONE
PARTICULAR CANDIDATE.
00:17:10THE IDEA IS TO GIVE THEM
FLEXIBILITY TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH
00:17:14STAFFING THEY NEED.
KAREN: THE IDEA OF BANK
00:17:19STATEMENTS, THERE ARE SOME THAT
WANT TO SEE A REQUIREMENT THAT
00:17:21BANK STATEMENTS ARE USED.
SECRETARY OF STATE WHO SAID HAS
00:17:25ASKED FOR THAT AFTER A FORMER
CONGRESSMAN WAS CONVICTED IN
00:17:292013.
WHY NOT HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT
00:17:31BANK STATEMENTS WOULD BE
REQUIRED?
00:17:32REP. BECKER: IF THE SECRETARY
WANTED IN THE BILL, I'M WILLING
00:17:37TO PUT IT IN.
I AM FLEXIBLE ON IT.
00:17:39THE IDEA IS TO REDUCE THE
CLUTTER AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR
00:17:45PEOPLE TO BECOME CANDIDATES.
THE SECOND HE BELIEVES IT IS
00:17:48NECESSARY TO KEEP PEOPLE HONEST,
THAT IS FINE.
00:17:51KAREN: YOU HAVE THREE
COSPONSORS, RON HOWARD, ANDREW
00:17:56BRENNER, NINA TALLEY.
NONE OF YOU IN LEADERSHIP.
00:17:58DO YOU HAVE SUPPORT, HAS
LEADERSHIP EXPRESSED SUPPORT IN
00:18:01THIS?
REP. BECKER: I HAVE NOT
00:18:04DISCUSSED WITH LEADERSHIP.
I BROUGHT THIS TO THE ENTIRE
00:18:08CAUCUS, ONLY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN
GETTING SO MUCH MEDIA ATTENTION,
00:18:11WHICH I DID NOT ANTICIPATE.
I SIMPLY BRIEFED THE CAUCUS.
00:18:14KAREN: IS AN ELECTION YEAR THE
TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS?
00:18:18REP. BECKER: I THINK ANYTIME IS
A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
00:18:22DURING THE YEAR WE DO MULTIPLE
CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS.
00:18:26IT IS ON MY RADAR, SOMETHING I
THINK ABOUT EVERY TIME I DO A
00:18:32REPORT.
KAREN: DO YOU WORRY, BECAUSE IT
00:18:36IS AN ELECTION YEAR, IT IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT OTHERS WANT TO
00:18:38TALK ABOUT?
REP. BECKER: WE ARE GOING TO BE
00:18:43OFF MOST OF THE SUMMER, IF NOT
THE BALL -- NOT SURE WHAT THE
00:18:46SCHEDULE OF THE.
AT THIS POINT, THE ODDS OF THIS
00:18:49GETTING PASSED IN THE LAW BY THE
END OF THE YEAR IN LAME-DUCK ARE
00:18:53VERY SLIM.
I THINK WE ARE LEARNING FROM IT,
00:18:57MAKING WHATEVER CHANGES ARE
NECESSARY, AND THEN
00:19:00REINTRODUCING IN IN THE GENERAL
ASSEMBLY.
00:19:01KAREN: PERHAPS NO ONE KNOWS MORE
ABOUT CAMPAIGN FINANCE IN OHIO
00:19:05THAN CATHERINE TURCER WITH
COMMON CAUSE OHIO.
00:19:07I TALKED TO HER ABOUT REP.
BECKER'S BILL THIS WEEK AS WELL.
00:19:10>> MANY OF US WOULD SAY THAT WE
NEED ACCESS TO GOOD INFORMATION.
00:19:15WE KNOW THE LEGISLATIVE
CANDIDATES HAVE FILED
00:19:18ELECTRONICALLY AND THAT CAMPAIGN
FINANCE INFORMATION HAS BEEN
00:19:23ONLINE FOR 15 YEARS.
THERE IS NO REASON NOT TO BE
00:19:26THINKING ABOUT ADDING THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT.
00:19:28WHY NOT FIND OUT ABOUT THE MONEY
THAT OUR LOCAL MAYORS RECEIVE?
00:19:32WHAT ABOUT CITY COUNCIL?
WE DESERVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO
00:19:38THAT INFORMATION.
RIGHT NOW [NO AUDIO]
00:19:42WE HAD A SITUATION WHERE
CONGRESSMAN LOOKING WAS
00:21:04CONVICTED AND JOHN HOUSTON AND
OTHERS HAVE SAID THAT THAT WAS A
00:21:08CASE WHERE BANK STATEMENTS -- WE
DO TO HAVE VAGUE STATEMENTS
00:21:13VERIFIED.
CATHERINE: IF YOU THINK ABOUT
00:21:19AUDITING CAMPAIGN-FINANCE, UNION
BANK STATEMENTS.
00:21:22IF WE WANT TO HAVE ACTUAL
FACTUAL INFORMATION, IT IS VERY
00:21:26HELPFUL TO HAVE NOT JUST WHAT IS
REPORTED BY THE CANDIDATE
00:21:31CAMPAIGN, BUT ALSO THE BANK
STATEMENT, SO YOU CAN VERIFY.
00:21:34IT IS A WAY OF ROOTING OUT
CORRUPTION, A WAY OF HOLDING
00:21:40FOLKS RUNNING FOR OFFICE
ACCOUNTABLE.
00:21:42KAREN: THE BILL ALSO, ON THE
SUBJECT OF AUDITING, SAY THAT
00:21:51THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A
REQUIREMENT OF THE SECRETARY OF
00:21:52STATE'S OFFICE, BUT EVERY
CANDIDATE'S PAPERWORK DOES NOT
00:21:57HAVE TO BE AUDITED.
ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THAT?
00:21:58CATHERINE: ONE OF THE REASONS WE
DO AUDITS IS BECAUSE WE ARE
00:22:05FOCUSED ON ROOTING OUT
CORRUPTION.
00:22:06DO WE, IN FACT, WHAT A FINANCE
CAMPAIGN SYSTEM THAT IS
00:22:12BASICALLY LEGALIZED BRIBERY?
NONE OF US WANT THAT.
00:22:16WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THE
MONEY, LOOK AT POLICY DECISIONS
00:22:21AND LOOK AT WHERE CAMPAIGN
CONTRIBUTIONS ARE COMING FROM,
00:22:24AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS AND
ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT
00:22:27WHAT IS BEST FOR THE PEOPLE OF
OHIO.
00:22:28IT DOES NO ONE ANY GOOD TO PUT
THIS INFORMATION FAR AWAY OUT OF
00:22:33THE SIDE OF THE PUBLIC.
IT JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.
00:22:35KAREN: REPRESENTATIVE BECKER AND
OTHERS ARE WORKING ON THE BILL.
00:22:40NO ONE FROM LEADERSHIP IS A
COSPONSOR OR HAS WEIGHED IN ON
00:22:46THIS AS OF RIGHT NOW.
REPRESENTATIVE BECKER EVEN SAID
00:22:49HE DOESN'T HAVE HIGH HOPES OF
THIS TO PASS.
00:22:51DO YOU THINK IT WILL PASS,
ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS IS AN
00:22:55ELECTION YEAR?
CATHERINE: PUTTING THIS
00:23:00INFORMATION ONLINE SEEMS LIKE AN
OBVIOUS SOLUTION.
00:23:02THINK ABOUT DEALING WITH ALL OF
THE PAPERWORK AT LOCAL BOARDS OF
00:23:06ELECTION.
IT SEEMED LIKE AN OBVIOUS
00:23:09SOLUTION TO GET GOOD ACCESS TO
INFORMATION WHICH WE COULD ALL
00:23:11LOOK AT HOME.
I DO THINK -- IT IS UNLIKELY TO
00:23:19MOVE QUICKLY.
EVEN THOUGH I THINK THIS IS
00:23:22REALLY A NO-BRAINER, IT MAY NOT
MOVE AS QUICKLY AS WE HOPE.
00:23:26ALSO, I BELIEVE THEY DID NOT
INCLUDE GOOD DISCLOSURE OF THE
00:23:32CORPORATE CONTRIBUTIONS TO
INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES, AND IF
00:23:35THAT INFORMATION WAS MORE
READILY AVAILABLE SINCE CITIZENS
00:23:37UNITED, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER
WAY THAT THEY COULD CREATE GOOD
00:23:46ACCESS TO INFORMATION, SO WE
COULD FOLLOW THE MONEY.
00:23:47KAREN: WHILE YOU ARE HERE, I
NEED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE STATE
00:23:51OF THE STATE ADDRESS.
GOVERNOR KASICH SAID IT WAS TIME
00:23:54FOR OHIO TO CHANGE THE WAY IT
DRAWS CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT
00:23:57LINES.
YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN
00:24:02REDISTRICTING REFORM SINCE I
HAVE KNOWN YOU.
00:24:03LAST FALL, YOU HAD SUCCESS IN
HAVING CHANGES DONE TO THE WAY
00:24:07THE STATE LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT
LINES ARE DRAWN.
00:24:10NOW YOU HAVE GOVERNOR KASICH
SAYING THAT GERRYMANDERING NEEDS
00:24:15TO BE PUT INTO THE DUSTBIN OF
SOCIETY.
00:24:16CATHERINE: DUSTBIN OF HISTORY, I
THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING, AN
00:24:22INTERESTING METAPHOR.
FOR MANY OF US, WE HAVE BEEN
00:24:29WORRIED ABOUT GERRYMANDERING AND
THE MANIPULATION OF THESE
00:24:30CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS FOR A
LONG TIME.
00:24:32ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT A
MAP AND SAY, WAIT A MINUTE,
00:24:36THERE IS A DISTRICT THAT STARTS
IN TOLEDO, WORKS ITS WAY ALONG
00:24:40THE LATE, TO CLEVELAND.
WE KNOW IT DIVIDES COMMUNITIES,
00:24:45CREATES UNCOMPETITIVE ELECTIONS,
FAVORS ONE PARTY OVER ANOTHER.
00:24:49WE CAN IDENTIFY THESE PROBLEMS.
THERE IS GROWING UNDERSTANDING
00:24:53THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
KAREN: BUT HOUSE SPEAKER AND
00:24:59SPEAKER WEBER SAYS THE
LEGISLATION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO
00:25:02DRAW THOSE LINES, AND THEY DON'T
WANT TO GIVE THAT UP.
00:25:03CATHERINE: WE KNOW THAT 70% OF
OHIOANS VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE
00:25:09REDISTRICTING.
LAST FALL.
00:25:10WE ALSO KNOW THE ISSUE WON IN
ALL 88 COUNTIES.
00:25:17TO SAY WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE
THIS OUT OF THE LEGISLATIVE
00:25:21AUTHORITY SEEMS COMPLETELY
RIDICULOUS TO ME.
00:25:25BECAUSE THE OHIO REDISTRICTING
COMMISSION INCLUDES APPOINTMENTS
00:25:28BY THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE,
SENATE PRESIDENT, AND MINORITY
00:25:32LEADERS IN BOTH HOUSES.
ACTING LIKE SOMEHOW THE
00:25:37LEGISLATURE WILL NOT BE INVOLVED
IN CONGRESSIONAL REDISTRICTING,
00:25:42IT WE MOVED TO THE OHIO
REJECTING COMMISSION IS
00:25:44LUDICROUS AND DISINGENUOUS.
KAREN: REP. BECKER'S BILL WAS
00:25:48JUST INTRODUCED LATE LAST MONTH
- IT HAS YET TO HAVE A HEARING.
00:25:50AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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