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Democrats are still trying to stop Ohio’s new Republican-approved Congressional map, but this week Secretary of State Jon Husted rejected more than a thousand signatures trying to put a repeal of the new maps on next year’s ballot. The ad war over Issue 2 is heating up – but this week the ads actually were the subject both sides were fighting about.

Early voting is underway, and it’s executed very differently in different counties. This week, a glimpse into how it’s done in two of them - in Fayette County and Franklin County.

There’s been discussion over the years about the role endorsements play in political campaigns. But it’s almost easy to predict which groups might feel about each of the three statewide issues. However,... [ More ]
 
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00:00:35DEMOCRATS TRYING TO STOP
OHIO'S NEW CONGRESSIONAL MAPS HIT A ROADBLOCK.
THE BATTLE OVER ISSUE 2 TURNS VERY NASTY, AS BOTH SIDES
ACCUSE EACH OTHER OF ALL SORTS OF CRIMES IN TV ADS.
EARLY VOTING IS UNDERWAY -- WE'LL SEE HOW IT'S WORKING IN
TWO VERY DIFFERENT COUNTIES. AND A FORMER GOVERNOR ANSWERS
THE QUESTION -- DOES HE WANT THAT JOB AGAIN SOMEDAY?
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:01:00OHIO."
DEMOCRATS ARE STILL TRYING TO STOP OHIO'S NEW REPUBLICAN-
APPROVED CONGRESSIONAL MAP, BUT THIS WEEK SECRETARY OF STATE
JON HUSTED REJECTED MORE THAN A THOUSAND SIGNATURES TRYING TO
PUT A REPEAL OF THE NEW MAPS ON NEXT YEAR'S BALLOT.
HUSTED SAYS THE REDISTRICTING LEGISLATION LAYING OUT THE NEW
U.S. HOUSE DISTRICTS CONTAINED AN APPROPRIATION AND TOOK
EFFECT IMMEDIATELY, SO IT ISN'T SUBJECT TO REFERENDUM.
DEMOCRATS HAVE YET TO RECEIVE A RULING FROM THE OHIO SUPREME
COURT ON THE ISSUE. THEIR SUIT ARGUES THE MANEUVER
BY REPUBLICANS TO ADD THE SPENDING COMPONENT TO THE BILL
SHOULDN'T BLOCK IT FROM A BALLOT CHALLENGE.
THE HIGH COURT HAS PUT THE LAWSUIT ON THE FAST TRACK, AND
PAPERWORK WAS FILED THIS WEEK. THE DEADLINE FOR CANDIDATES TO
FILE FOR THE PRIMARY NEXT YEAR IS DECEMBER 7.
THE AD WAR OVER ISSUE 2 IS HEATING UP -- BUT THIS WEEK THE
ADS ACTUALLY WERE THE SUBJECT BOTH SIDES WERE FIGHTING ABOUT.
THE PRO-ISSUE 2 GROUP BUILDING A BETTER OHIO RELEASED AN AD
FEATURING MARLENE QUINN OF CINCINNATI THANKING
FIREFIGHTERS FOR SAVING HER GREAT-GRANDDAUGHTER.
THE SAME FOOTAGE OF QUINN WAS FEATURING IN AN EARLIER AD FOR
THE ANTI-ISSUE 2 GROUP WE ARE OHIO -- WHICH ALSO SHOWED QUINN
ASKING VOTERS TO REJECT SENATE BILL 5.
WE ARE OHIO BLASTED BUILDING A BETTER OHIO FOR USING THE SAME
FOOTAGE WITHOUT THE REQUEST TO VOTE "NO."
BUT THEN BUILDING A BETTER OHIO ACCUSED A FIREFIGHTER FROM A
PREVIOUS WE ARE OHIO AD OF LYING TO NEWS MEDIA ABOUT HIS
HEALTH BENEFIT COSTS. WE'LL HAVE MORE ON ISSUE 2
COMING UP. OHIOANS HAVE BEEN VOTING FOR
MORE THAN A WEEK NOW. THE START OF EARLY VOTING HAD
BEEN UP IN THE AIR BECAUSE OF THE ATTEMPT TO STOP A NEW
ELECTION REFORM LAW THAT WOULD HAVE SHORTENED THE EARLY VOTING
PERIOD AND MOVED THE START TO MID-OCTOBER.
OPPONENTS OF THE ELECTION REFORM LAW FILED PETITIONS TO
PUT IT ON THE BALLOT, AND WHILE THOSE SIGNATURES HAVEN'T BEEN
VALIDATED, THE DECISION WAS MADE TO GO AHEAD WITH EARLY
VOTING ON OCTOBER 4. ONE OF THE REASONS GIVEN FOR THE
ELECTIONS REFORM LAW, WHICH INCLUDED SOME 180 CHANGES TO
LAWS RELATING TO VOTING IN OHIO, WAS THAT THE STATE NEEDED
TO BRING MORE UNIFORMITY TO ELECTIONS ACROSS THE STATE.
BUT WITH 88 DIFFERENT COUNTIES -- SOME RURAL, SOME URBAN, AND
MANY SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN -- THAT'S EASIER SAID THAN DONE.
THIS WEEK, A LOOK AT HOW TWO COUNTIES ARE DOING EARLY VOTING.
THE FAYETTE COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS IS ABOUT 45 MINUTES
SOUTHWEST OF THE STATEHOUSE, IN WASHINGTON COURT HOUSE.
WITH JUST 16,000 REGISTERED VOTERS, FAYETTE COUNTY ONE OF
THE STATE'S SMALLER, MORE RURAL POPULATIONS.
SO FAR AS OF THIS WEEK, ABOUT 250 PEOPLE HAVE EITHER
REQUESTED ABSENTEE BALLOTS BY MAIL OR VOTED IN PERSON.
-- ABSENTEE AND PERSON. THE BOARD IS LOCATED ON THE
FOURTH FLOOR OF A COUNTY BUILDING, AND HAS A TABLE FOR
VOTERS TO FILL OUT THEIR APPLICATIONS BEFORE HEADING TO
THE ROOM SET UP FOR VOTING -- WHERE THERE ARE JUST A HANDFUL
OF STATIONS. THE FAYETTE COUNTY BOARD OF
ELECTIONS HAS A STAFF OF FOUR -- WHICH SWELLS TO SIX FOR
EARLY VOTING. BETH ANN SNYDER IS THE DEPUTY
DIRECTOR AT THE FAYETTE COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS, AND SHE
SAYS EARLY VOTING HAS BEEN GOOD
00:04:14FOR VOTERS.
IN FAYETTE COUNTY, IT HAS. PEOPLE HAVE 35 DAYS RIGHT NOW TO
COME IN AND VOTE.
00:04:26AND IT SEEMS TO WORK VERY WELL.
BUT YOU STILL GET PEOPLE
00:04:32COMING AND ELECTION DAY.
YOU HAVE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL NEVER VOTE EARLY.
THEY LIKE TO HAVE THE CAMARADERIE OUT TO THE PRECINCT
AND SEE ALL OF THEIR NEIGHBORS
00:04:41THAT ARE WORKING THERE.
MEANWHILE, IN COLUMBUS, IT'S A SIMILAR SCENE AT THE FRANKLIN
COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS -- WITH SOME KEY DIFFERENCES.
THERE ARE 750, 000 REGISTERED VOTERS IN FRANKLIN COUNTY, AND
SO FAR 32,000 PEOPLE HAVE REQUESTED BALLOTS BY MAIL, AND
1100 PEOPLE HAVE VOTED IN PERSON.
THE BOARD OCCUPIES AN ENTIRE BUILDING -- THE OLD VETERANS
MEMORIAL ON BROAD STREET, WHICH USED TO BE COSI, THE CENTER OF
SCIENCE AND INDUSTRY. THERE ARE 30 VOTING MACHINES IN
THIS HUGE ROOM, AND THERE'S A TENT OUTSIDE
IN CASE AN OVERFLOW CROWD SHOWS UP AND LINES START FORMING.
IN FACT, THE FRANKLIN COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS ESTIMATES IT
COULD BE THE STATE'S LARGEST BOARD OF ELECTIONS, TAKING OVER
FROM CUYAHOGA COUNTY NEXT YEAR. DEPUTY DIRECTOR NATHAN BURD SAYS
EARLY VOTING IS WORKING HERE
00:05:27TOO.
IT IS GOOD FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME IN AT
THEIR CONVENIENCE IN PERSON. VOTING BY MAIL, OF COURSE, IS
THE MOST CONVENIENT ACTION. YOU CAN GET YOUR BALLOT AND TAKE
AS MUCH TIME YOU NEED BEFORE ELECTION DAY TO VOTE.
IT HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY HELPFUL. WE HAVE A COUNTY WITH 750,000
REGISTERED VOTERS IT PLAYS A BIG ROLE REDUCING THE LINES.
REMEMBER AND TO THOUSAND FOUR WAITING FOR SEVERAL HOURS.
I WAITED AT THREE AND A HALF AND MY LOCATION AND IN 2008, SEVEN
MINUTES. THE REASON IS BECAUSE SO MANY
INTO THOUSAND EIGHT ALREADY VOTING BY MAIL OR IN PERSON.
GOOD FOR ELECTION ADMINISTRATION ON OUR END AND FOR VOTERS TO
HAVE MOBILE AVENUES.
00:06:09BUT THE IDEA OF UNIFORMITY IS
A TOUGH ONE FOR THESE ELECTIONS WORKERS.
IN FAYETTE COUNTY, SNYDER SAYS
00:06:15SOME THINGS MAKE SENSE.
THE RULES ARE -- ARE THE SAME FOR ALL OF US.
BUT WE ARE A SMALLER COUNTY AND THE HOURS THAT WE ARE OPEN RIGHT
NOW SERVICE OUR COMMUNITY. AND IF WE WERE FINDING THAT
THERE WERE LINES WHEN PEOPLE WANTED TO VOTE, WE WOULD TRY TO
EXTEND THOSE. AND WE HAVE THE DURING
PRESIDENTIALS. AND WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN OUR
OFFICE RIGHT HERE. SOME COUNTIES ARE BIGGER.
THEY NEED TO HAVE OFFSITE VOTING.
SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE A FEW DIFFERENCES BUT WE ALL FOLLOW
THE SAME RULES.
00:06:52JAMIE BROOKS IS THE DIRECTOR
OF THE FAYETTE COUNTY BOARD OF
00:06:55ELECTIONS.
I THINK THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES AND SMALL -- IN
SMALLER AND LARGER COUNTIES. DIFFERENT NEEDS.
WE CAN SEE THOSE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO
DO WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE VOTER. OUR MAIN INTEREST IS THE VOTER
AND OUR COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO SERVICE OUR COMMUNITY
AND PEOPLE.
00:07:13IN FRANKLIN COUNTY, BURD
SAYS HE THINKS UNIFORMITY CAN WORK FOR SOME THINGS, BUT NOT
FOR OTHERS.
00:07:16WE DON'T HAVE UNIFORMITY IN
THE TYPE OF VOTER REGISTRATION COMPUTER SYSTEM.
WE DON'T HAVE UNIFORMITY AND SEVERAL OTHER AREAS.
BUT IN TERMS OF HOURS THE PEOPLE CAN CAST A BALLOT AND
GETTING ACCESSIBILITY TO VOTING, I THINK THERE IS A GOOD ARGUMENT
TO MAKE IT IS PROBABLY BEST FOR IT TO BE UNIFORM.
SOME COUNTIES, THE LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS OVERLAP.
SO, IF YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN LINCOLN COUNTY WHO CAN'T VOTE
EXTENDED HOURS AND WEEKNIGHTS BUT THE PEOPLE IN THE SAME
DISTRICT IN FRANKLIN CAN, THERE IS A JUSTIFIABLE CONCERN IT MAY
BE UNFAIR. THERE ARE OTHER PARTS OF
ELECTION ADMINISTRATION THAT IS DIFFICULT TO GET UNIFORMITY ON
BECAUSE COUNTIES ARE SO
00:07:56DIFFERENT.
AND NEXT YEAR, THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE COUNTIES
ARE LIKELY TO BE EVEN MORE STARK, AS THEY HANDLE THOUSANDS
OF EARLY VOTERS WHO FEAR LONG LINES ON ELECTION DAY.
IN COLUMBUS, VOTERS WILL BE AT
00:08:05A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
NEXT YEAR FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL WE CANNOT DO EARLY
VOTING -- WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE 60,000 70,001 TO VOTE EARLY IN
2012 SO WE WILL HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER SITE.
WE ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO BE OPEN AND ONE OFF SITE LOCATION OF
ALL.
00:08:24AND IN WASHINGTON COURT
HOUSE, BROOKS SAYS THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS WILL HAVE MOVED INTO A
NEW BUILDING, WITH AN OFFICE ON THE FIRST FLOOR INSTEAD OF THE
FOURTH. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THINGS
WON'T BE BUSY.
00:08:31SOME PEOPLE THINK THE
PRESIDENTIAL IS THE ONLY ELECTION.
UNFORTUNATELY -- WE WANT TO SEE PEOPLE INVOLVED ALL THE TIME
WITH THE ELECTIONS. BUT WE REALLY GEAR ROUTE.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF RECEPTIONISTS THAT ROUTE PEOPLE
ON THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE HAVE A STAFF.
WE HAVE A SMALL BOARD THAT IS WONDERFUL.
THEY COME IN AND WILL HELP US OPEN THE ENVELOPES, RUN BALANCE
ONCE WE ALLOW TO DO THAT -- WE DO NOT HOLD IT UNTIL ELECTION
DAY BUT THERE IS A LOT OF EARLY WORK AND WE HAVE TO GET A LOT
MORE HELP IN HERE TO MAKE IT
00:09:05HAPPEN.
THE ELECTIONS OFFICIALS IN BOTH COUNTIES AGREE THAT THIS
YEAR IS A VERY UNUSUAL ONE --
00:09:09ESPECIALLY FOR AN OFF YEAR.
FRANKLY, THIS YEAR IS UNLIKE ANY OTHER BECAUSE WE'VE GOT ALL
THE CONFUSION ABOUT 194 AND WHETHER IT IS IN A FACTOR NOT.
WE'VE GOT REDISTRICTING. THE NEW CONGRESSIONAL MAPS AND
STATE LEGISLATIVE MAPS. WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO
BETWEEN NOW AND THE PRIMARY. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE NOW A MAY
PRIMARY IT IS BACK TO MARCH AND YOU HAVE TO FILE BY DECEMBER 7.
ONLY A MONTH WE HAVE IT PROCESSED ON AN PETITIONS READY
FOR CANDIDATES TO CIRCULATE. IT IS MERGING TOGETHER -- I WILL
BE HONEST, IT IS CONFUSING AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HAVING TROUBLE
KEEPING UP WITH THE WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN AND WE WILL BE
ABLE TO MANAGE.
00:09:50BUT BETH ANN SNYDER SAYS
IT'S A REMINDER THAT ELECTION YEARS THAT DON'T INCLUDE BIG
CANDIDATE RACES ARE STILL VERY
00:09:55IMPORTANT.
WE REALLY WANT TO STRESS THE FACT THAT IN THESE ELECTIONS,
THESE ODD YEARS, ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU.
THESE ARE YOUR TOWNSHIP TRUSTEES, SCHOOL BOARDS.
THEY ARE THE ONES THAT PUT ISSUES ON THE BALLOTS THAT
AFFECT YOU. THAT IS HOW YOU GET YOUR SCHOOL
ISSUES, FIRE LEVIES, EVEN IN THE SMALL VILLAGES.
THESE ACTUALLY AFFECT YOUR POCKETS OF LOT MORE THAN I THINK
EVEN THE PRESIDENTIAL DOES.
00:10:22GET OUT AND VOTE.
THE NEW ELECTIONS REFORM LAW BANNED COUNTIES FROM SENDING
OUT UNREQUESTED ABSENTEE BALLOTS TO ALL REGISTERED VOTERS.
WHILE THE LAW IS ON HOLD, THE SECRETARY OF STATE PUT OUT A
DIRECTIVE TELLING COUNTIES THEY COULDN'T DO THAT, WHICH UPSET
ELECTIONS OFFICIALS IN URBAN COUNTIES -- SPECIFICALLY IN
CUYAHOGA COUNTY. COUNTY OFFICIALS HAD SAID THEY
SENT OUT THE BALLOTS TO TRY TO AVOID LONG LINES ON ELECTION
DAY, BUT RURAL COUNTIES WEREN'T SENDING OUT THOSE BALLOTS --
AND IT'S BEEN NOTED THAT URBAN COUNTIES VOTE DEMOCRATIC WHILE
RURAL COUNTIES TEND TO BE MORE REPUBLICAN.
THERE'S NOW AN AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS CUYAHOGA COUNTY TO SEND
OUT THOSE BALLOTS NEXT YEAR DURING THE PRESIDENTIAL VOTE.
THE FRANKLIN COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS WOULD NOT HAVE SENT
OUT UNREQUESTED ABSENTEE BALLOTS DURING THIS OFF YEAR, BUT HAS
IN OTHER BIG VOTING YEARS -- AGAIN, WITH THE REASONING THAT
IT COULD LOWER THE POSSIBILITY OF LONG LINES.
THE FAYETTE COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS HAS NEVER SENT OUT
MASS BATCHES OF UNREQUESTED ABSENTEE BALLOTS -- SNYDER AND
BROOKS SAY THEY TYPICALLY WOULD THEM ONLY SEND TO PREVIOUS
ABSENTEE VOTERS OR TO FOLKS WHO WERE KNOWN TO BE ILL.
THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION OVER THE YEARS ABOUT THE ROLE
ENDORSEMENTS PLAY IN POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS.
BUT IT'S ALMOST EASY TO PREDICT WHICH GROUPS MIGHT FEEL ABOUT
EACH OF THE THREE STATEWIDE ISSUES, SINCE REPUBLICANS HAVE
BEEN COMING OUT IN FAVOR OF ALL THREE, AND THE STATE DEMOCRATIC
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE HAS VOTED TO CALL FOR A NO VOTE ON EACH OF
THEM. BUT SOME MIGHT BE SURPRISED AS
TO WHERE THE ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING THE STATE'S COUNTY
PROSECUTORS MIGHT FALL ON THE ISSUE THAT'S CLOSEST TO THEM --
ISSUE 1, WHICH WOULD RAISE THE MANDATORY RETIREMENT AGE FOR
JUDGES FROM 70 TO 75. THE OHIO PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION HAS COME OUT AGAINST ISSUE 1, AND EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR JOHN MURPHY IS HERE TO EXPLAIN WHY.
LET ME START WITH WHY YOU OPPOSE THE MANDATORY RETIREMENT AGE
BEING RAISED.
00:12:17WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH THAT?
WE LIKE THE AGE WHERE IT IS. WE THINK IT SERVED US WELL.
AND IT HAS GENERALLY IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF JUDICIARY SINCE 1968
WHEN THE PEOPLE ADOPTED IT. AND, FRANKLY, WE DON'T SEE A
REASON TO CHANGE IT. PROPONENTS ARGUE LIFE EXPECTANCY
HAS GONE UP. OK, FINE.
BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF MENTAL
ACUITY. THEY HAVE NOT SHOWN THAT THAT
HAS GONE UP. SOME LIFE EXPECTANCY
IMPROVEMENT, YES, BUT YOU REALLY HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THE MENTAL
ISSUES.
00:12:54WHEN YOU GO TO AN ARBITRARY
NUMBER, STAY AT 70 OR EVEN 75, DOESN'T THAT BY DEFINITION
ELIMINATE SOME QUALIFIED JURIST WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO SERVE EVEN
LONGER?
00:13:05NO DOUBT.
IT IS THE PROBLEM WITH ANY ARBITRARY LIMIT ON ANYTHING.
YOU WILL CUT OUT SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF
SERVING VERY WELL. AND THAT IS A PROBLEM.
IT IS REGRETTABLE BUT WE THINK THEY CONVINCED OF THE ISSUE IS
ON THE OTHER SIDE -- WEIGHT OF THE ISSUE IS ONE OF THE SITE.
THIS IS A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE. YOU CANNOT OVER THE BENCH AFTER
69 -- YOU ARE STARTING SOMEBODY STARTING ON A SIX-YEAR TERM OF
OFFICE WHERE IT IS VERY DIFFICULT THAT HE DOES RUN INTO
DIFFICULTY TO REMOVE HIM. AND YOU ARE EXPECTING HIM TO BE
ALERT AND GOOD AND HAVE SUFFICIENT ENERGY TO FILL OUT
HIS TERM UP UNTIL 82. THAT IS A BIG INCREASE.
CURRENTLY THE MAXIMUM IS 75. WE THINK GOING UP TO 82 JUST
INCREASES THE RISK SUBSTANTIALLY.
SHOULD NOT DO THAT.
00:14:03WE ALLOW OUR SUPREME COURT
JUSTICES GO THAT FAR AND FEDERAL COURT JUSTICES GO THAT FAR AND
RETIRE WHEN THEY'RE READY.
00:14:10AND I AM SURE THEY HAVE
PROBLEMS WITH THAT OF THE JUDGES AS WELL.
THE CITIZENS OF THIS STATE, HOWEVER, DECIDED WAY BACK IN
1968 WE WILL HAVE AN ARBITRARY LIMIT.
THAT IS REALLY NOT PART OF THE DEBATE THERE.
THE ONLY DEBATE NOW IS WHERE IT
00:14:23IS GOING TO BE.
VOTERS WILL GET TO DECIDE THIS AS A STATE ISSUE, ONE, BUT
TO AN VOTERS GET TO DECIDE WHO IS ON THE BENCH ANY WAY INSTEAD
OF A ONE SIZE FITS ALL AMENDMENT THAT SAYS WE ARE GOING TO GO TO
75 OR STAY AT 70. ISSUE VOTERS BE ABLE TO MAKE THE
CHOICE?
00:14:40IF THE VOTERS KNEW WHO THEY
WERE VOTING FOR, YOU WOULD HAVE A MUCH STRONGER ARGUMENT TO HAVE
NO LIMIT BECAUSE THE VOTERS WOULD KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND KNOW
THEIR CONDITION AND ALL THAT. THE PROBLEM IS, IN OHIO, IT IS
WELL KNOWN, MOST VOTERS DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE VOTING FOR
FOR JUDGE.
00:14:58THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
A LOT OF PROSECUTORS, I CAN'T IMAGINE, SOME DAY MIGHT SEE
THEMSELVES AS JUDGES. DOESN'T KEEPING THIS AT 70
POTENTIALLY AFFECT THE RESTORATIONS OF SOME OF YOUR
MEMBERSHIP?
00:15:14SOME.
THEY REALIZE THAT THE STILL
00:15:17DON'T LIKE IT.
WE HEARD FROM MATT HUFFMAN, ONE OF THE SPONSORS OF THE
AMENDMENT. YOU HAVE SOME JUDGES AND A 70'S
WHO THEIR BEST YEARS MIGHT BE AHEAD OF THEM.
AND YOU ARE STILL CONCERNED THAT
00:15:29THERE ARE OTHERS THAT AREN'T.
YOU GOT TO -- YOU KNOW, IT IS SORT OF PLAYING THE ODDS TO
REDUCE IT TO THE BARE MINIMUM. THERE ARE SOME, NO DOUBT, WHO
ARE QUITE CAPABLE AT 80. BUT WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THE
ODDS ARE THE OTHER WAY, THAT YOU ARE TAKING A RISK THAT MORE THAN
NOT WILL EXPERIENCE DIFFICULTIES
00:15:49IF WE INCREASE IT THAT MUCH.
SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY IT IS AGEISM, NOT FAIR TO
DISCRIMINATE --
00:15:58CITIZENS OF THE STATE DECIDED
OVER 40 YEARS AGO WE WOULD HAVE
00:16:01LIMITS.
FINALLY, DEMOCRATS HAVE COME OUT AGAINST ALL THREE OF THE
STATEWIDE ISSUES, INCLUDING THIS ONE.
THEY SAY THIS IS UNFAIRLY KEEPING REPUBLICANS ON THE OHIO
SUPREME COURT AND OTHER COURTS -- IN MANY WAYS, WHAT YOU JUST
SAID VOTERS MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW WHO THEY ARE VOTING FOR AS A
JUDGE. ARE YOU CONCERNED HOW POLITICS
MIGHT PLAY A ROLE IN HOW THIS ISSUE IS DECIDED AND MAYBE NOT
THE ARGUMENTS HERE?
00:16:29POLITICS MAY PLAY A ROLE.
THAT IS THE ISSUE, THAT IT IN TRANCHES FOLKS THEY WOULD LIKE
TO MOVE ON SO THEY HAVE A FAIR SHOT OF REPLACING THEM WITH
DEMOCRATS, I ASSUME. WE HAVE DEMOCRAT MEMBERS AND
REPUBLICAN MEMBERS AND ALL AGREED WE SHOULD NOT BE
INCREASING THE A'S BECAUSE WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ABILITY
OF THE JUDGE TO FILL OUT THE TERM AND DO THE JOB.
WE ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT
00:16:52POLITICS.
IS JUDICIAL TURNOVER A CONCERN ABOUT MEMBERS IN YOUR
ORGANIZATION? DO YOU LIKE JUDGES THAT THEY ON
A BENCH FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME?
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE JUSTICE
00:17:04TURN OVER OR DOES IT MATTER?
WHAT MATTERS IS HE'S GOT THE ENERGY, HE IS CAPABLE OF DOING
THE JOB. WHETHER IT GOES OUR WAY OR THE
OTHER WAY, WE WANT A FAIR SHOT AT A COMPETENT PERSON.
THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.
00:17:18IS THERE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT
THE SIX-YEAR TERM?
00:17:22ANOTHER PROBLEM.
JUDGES DO HAVE SIX-YEAR TERM WHICH MEANS YOU ARE -- THIS GUY
IS SIGNING ON FOR SIX YEARS, A LONG TIME.
PROSECUTORS ONLY SERVED FOUR YEARS AND MOST OTHER OFFICIALS
ONLY SERVE FOUR YEARS. IF YOU DO RUN INTO A PROBLEM,
THE CHANCES ARE THE JUDGE -- IT IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FOR A
LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
00:17:42JOHN MURPHY FROM THE OHIO
PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS
00:17:45ASSOCIATION.
MOVING FROM ENDORSEMENTS TO DEBATES -- ONE OF THE FIRST
DEBATES ON ISSUE 2 WAS HELD RECENTLY AT THE BEXLEY PUBLIC
LIBRARY JUST EAST OF DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS, MODERATED BY FORMER
WOSU RADIO HOST FRED ANDRLE. ON THE PRO-ISSUE 2 SIDE WAS
SEN. PRESIDENT PRO-TEM KEITH FABER OF CELINA, AND ON THE
ANTI-ISSUE 2 SIDE WAS DALE BUTLAND, SPOKESMAN FOR WE ARE
OHIO, WHICH GATHERED THE SIGNATURES TO PUT SENATE BILL 5
ON THE BALLOT. THE TWO SPARRED FOR MORE THAN
AN HOUR ABOUT BINDING ARBITRATION, NEGOTIATIONS FOR
SAFETY EQUIPMENT, THE BANNING OF STRIKES AND OTHER PROVISIONS
OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING REFORM LAW.
AND THE DISCUSSION GOT HEATED SEVERAL TIMES, AS IN THIS
EXCHANGE THAT HITS AT THE BOTTOM-LINE POINTS THAT BOTH
SIDES HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE.
00:18:24SENATOR SITES -- I KNOW
SENATOR EABER THOSE FAREWELL, HE IS FROM CINCINNATI, ONE OF
THE MOST CONSERVATIVE MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE.
HE VOTED AGAINST THIS BILL AND HE SAID WHEN YOU GET RID OF
BINDING ARBITRATION AND YOU ALLOW MANAGEMENT TO OF THOSE ADS
WILL HE SAID IT IS LIKE YOU GO TO DIVORCE COURT AND YOU FIND
OUT THAT YOUR FATHER IN LAW IS THE JUDGE.
THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
AND THEY KEEP COMING BACK TO THIS, SENATOR.
IN NEVER ANSWERED THIS QUESTION YET.
I WILL TRY IT ONCE MORE. IF YOU NEED SAVINGS IN ANY OTHER
AREA, WHY YOU FEEL THE NEED TO TAKE AWAY THE COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING RIGHTS OF EMPLOYEES? YOU TALK ABOUT THIS LAW BEING IN
PLACE SINCE 1983 AND, BOY, IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED -- I DO NOT
KNOW ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN AROUND THAT LONG THAT DOESN'T
NEED CHANGING. LET US TALK ABOUT HOW IT HAS
WORKED. BEFORE 1983, THE COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING LAW WAS ENACTED, OF OHIO AVERAGED 60 STRIKES A YEAR.
SINCE THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING LAW, SINCE 1983, WE HAVE
AVERAGED FOUR STRIKES A YEAR. IN 2010 AND IN 2011, ZERO
STRIKES. THIS LAW HAS WORKED.
IF IT IS NOT BROKE, DON'T FIX
00:19:52IT.
THE SHORT ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS THE ARBITRATION
PROVISION OF THE PROBLEM. NOT JUST BASED ON THE NUMBER OF
ARBITRATION AWARDS -- BY THE WAY, NOT JUST BASED ON THE
COMMUNITY'S ABILITY TO PAY. AN OUTSIDE PERSON SAYING YOU
WILL RAISE TAXES AND DID THE OTHER THINGS.
IT SHOULD BE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THE REAL PROBLEM IS MORE INSIDIOUS.
WHAT YOU HAVE IS A SITUATION WITH THE UNION COMES IN AND SAYS
WE 16% RAISES, THE CITY FOLKS SAY WE'VE NOT -- CANNOT AFFORD
ANY AN ARBITRATOR SAYS 6 OR 0, WE WILL SUGGEST 3%.
IT SOUNDS FAIR. IT IS NOT FAIR IF THE TAXPAYERS
CAN DEBATE THE BILL. THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE A
SITUATION HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE.
NOT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND NOT THE GOVERNMENT APPOINTEES
THAT ARE OFTEN ALSO THE PEOPLE SUPPORTED BY THE UNIONS.
SO, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS YOU NEED TO PUT THE
TAXPAYERS IN A POSITION TO HAVE A SEAT IN THE TABLE.
THAT IS WHAT SENATE BILL 5 DOES. ASKS THAT PEOPLE WILL ALSO LEAD
-- ULTIMATELY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LEVEL OF QUALITY OF SERVICE
BE THE DECIDER IS.
00:20:55FABER AND BUTLAND HAVE BEEN
MAKING THE ROUNDS OF DEBATE VENUES AROUND THE STATE.
A NEW PAIR OF COMBATANTS WILL TAKE ON ISSUE 2 BEFORE THE CITY
CLUB OF CLEVELAND ON MONDAY. FORMER CINCINNATI CITY
COUNCILMAN JEFF BERDING WILL
REPRESENT THE PRO-ISSUE 2 COALITION BUILDING A BETTER
OHIO, WHILE FORMER OHIO CONGRESSMAN DENNIS ECKART WILL
BE ON HAND FROM THE ANTI-ISSUE 2 GROUP WE ARE OHIO.
THEY'LL BE BEFORE A LIVE AUDIENCE OF NEARLY A THOUSAND
ATTENDEES AND WILL TAKE QUESTIONS FROM A PANEL OF
REPORTERS, AND I'LL BE THE MODERATOR.
WE'LL HAVE HIGHLIGHTS FROM THAT DEBATE NEXT WEEK.
ONE PERSON WHO WAS HIGHLY VISIBLE DURING THE DEBATE OVER
SENATE BILL 5 WAS THE MAN WHO WAS LEADING THE DEMOCRATIC
TICKET AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR -- FORMER GOV. TED STRICKLAND.
I SPOKE WITH STRICKLAND LAST WEEK ABOUT THE ISSUE 2 CAMPAIGN.
HERE'S MORE OF OUR CONVERSATION, STARTING WITH THE
QUESTION PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE WANT TO HEAR HIM
ANSWER.
00:21:42WHEN YOU MENTION GOV. CASE
IT -- KASICH, VISIT THE FIRST TIME IN HIS INTERVIEW I HEARD
YOU MENTION HIM BY NAME. IS IT BECAUSE, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT
SAY SOUR GRAPES. OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING MAYBE
THIS IS THE PRECURSOR TO A CAMPAIGN FOR GOVERNOR AGAIN.
ARE YOU PLANNING ON RUNNING FOR
00:22:09GOVERNOR?
WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.
LET ME SAY ABOUT GOV. KASICH, HE WON FAIR AND SQUARE.
WHEN THE ELECTION WAS OVER LAST NOVEMBER I WAS NOT ANGRY WITH
GOV. KAY SICK -- KASICH. HE DID WHAT HE NEEDED TO DO TO
WIN, HE GOT MORE VOTES THAN I GOT, GOVERNOR OF THE STATE, AND
I ACCEPTED THAT WITHOUT RANCOR OR HARD FEELINGS.
BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T CONTINUE TO HAVE OPINIONS AND IT
DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T HAVE CONVICTIONS THAT I WANT TO PUT
FORTH AN ARGUMENT I WANT TO MAKE.
AND THAT IS WHAT I AM DOING. IN TERMS OF WHAT I MIGHT DO IN
THE FUTURE, LIFE UNFOLDS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WILL DO NEXT
MONTH OR NEXT YEAR THE OR IN TWO OR THREE YEARS.
I DON'T WANT TO CLOSE THE DOOR
00:22:59ON ANYTHING.
YOU ARE NOT SAYING YOU ARE RUNNING BUT YOU ARE NOT RULING
IT OUT.
00:23:03ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK THAT IS A REASONABLE APPROACH.
MUCH OF IT WILL DEPEND ON WHAT I THINK PEOPLE WILL WANT TO WIN
THE TIME COMES. MY PARTY MAY NOT WANT ME TO RUN
AND THE PEOPLE OF OHIO MAY NOT WANT ME TO RUN AND IF I CONCLUDE
THAT IS IT, I CERTAINLY WON'T RUN.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, KAREN, IMPORTANT THINGS ARE BEING
DECIDED IN OHIO. ISSUED TWO IS IMPORTANT TO ME.
I AM URGING PEOPLE TO VOTE NO. AND ISSUED THREE IS SOMETHING
MANY OHIOANS HAVEN'T PAID ATTENTION TO WHAT IT IS A VERY,
VERY CRITICAL ISSUE.
00:23:40AN AMENDMENT THAT COULD
EFFECTIVELY ALLOW -- TO DROP OUT
00:23:44OF THE FEDERAL HEALTH-CARE LAW.
IT COULD BECAUSE THE ULTIMATE DECISION, KAREN, WILL BE MADE BY
THE FEDERAL COURTS. FEDERAL LAW SUPERSEDES STATE
LAW. SO WHETHER OR NOT OHIO
PARTICIPATES IN IT WHAT THEY CALL OBAMACARE WILL BE DECIDED
BY THE COURTS AND NOT BY THIS
00:24:02INITIATIVES.
YOU SAID YOU ON ROLLING OUT A RUN FOR GOVERNOR BUT HAVE NOT
NECESSARILY SAID YOU ARE GOING TO RUN.
I HAVE SEEN YOU ON CNN. I HAVE SEEN YOU ON HUFFINGTON
POST. ARE YOU POSSIBLY LOOKING AT
ANOTHER OFFICE, MAYBE A RETURN
00:24:16TO CONGRESS OR U.S. SENATE?
I AM NOT GOING TO GO BACK TO CONGRESS.
I HAVE BEEN THERE AND I ENJOYED THAT.
BUT I'D LIKE WHAT I AM DOING NOW.
I AM ENGAGED IN SOME BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS.
WE WANT TO CREATE JOBS IN OHIO AND I THINK PRIVATE CITIZENS CAN
DO THAT AS WELL AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.
SO, WE ARE DOING THAT. I AM WORKING WITH SOME OF MY
FORMER STAFF. AND I ENJOY THESE PEOPLE.
THEY SERVED ME AND OHIO VERY WELL.
AND I WANT TO STAY CONNECTED TO THEM AND WORK WITH THEM.
SO, KAREN, LIFE IS GOOD FOR ME. BUT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
ARE SUFFERING AND STRUGGLING. MANY OF THEM IN MY OWN FAMILY.
AND EVERYONE, I THINK, WHO HAS BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY AS I
HAVE, THE OPPORTUNITIES I HAVE BEEN GIVEN, HAS A RESPONSIBILITY
TO STAY ENGAGED AND INVOLVED AND THAT IS WHAT I AM DOING.
I LOVE THIS STATE, I LOVE THE PEOPLE IN THIS STATE.
AND I WANT OHIO TO PROSPER. AND I WANT TO THE PROSPERITY TO
BE SHARED. AND I WANT A SENSE OF FAIRNESS
TO PERVADE POLITICS.
00:25:28BESIDES HEADING UP A FIRM
CALLED MIDWEST GATEWAY PARTNERS, WHICH HE SAYS IS MORE
OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORT THAN A POLITICAL EFFORT,
STRICKLAND HAS BEEN DOING A LOT OF SPEAKING.
AND FOR THOSE ON FACEBOOK WHO WERE WONDERING, HE SAYS HIS
WIFE FRANCES IS DOING WELL AND STAYING BUSY TOO.
AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK. FOR MY COLLEAGUES AT OHIO
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