As of this post, it looks like a government shutdown is imminent. House Republicans insist the new spending bill contain anti-Obamacare measures, and Democrats are insistent that it not. This hour we'll examine this deja vu moment, and discuss what happens to employees, services, and the economy when Washington turns off the lights.

Guests:

Jack Torry, Washington Bureau Chief for The Columbus Dispatch

Jonathan Alter, veteran political journalist, columnist, author of The Center Holds: Obama and his enemies