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00:00:03I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE
BALLOT BOARD TO ORDER.
00:00:06I'M THE SECRETARY OF STATE, AND
THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE OHIO
00:00:09BALLOT BOARD.
IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION FROM
00:00:14BOARD MEMBERS, MY CHIEF COUNSEL
WILL SERVE AS SECRETARY THIS
00:00:18AFTERNOON.
A RECORD OF THESE PROCEEDINGS
00:00:21WILL BE TRANSCRIBED BY A COURT
REPORTER AND THE OHIO CHANNEL
00:00:28IS STRAINING DOES NEED LIVE ON
THEIR WEBSITE, WHERE IT WILL BE
00:00:31ARCHIVED.
SECRETARY, COULD YOU CALL THE
00:00:34ROLL?
>> MR. GRIFFIN?
00:00:37>> YES.
>> MR. MORGAN?
00:00:41>> YES.
SECRETARY OF STATE?
00:00:45YES.
>> LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT
00:00:52THERE IS A FORM PRESENT.
THE PURPOSE AND OF THE BALLOT
00:00:57BOARD WAS -- THE PURPOSE OF THE
BALLOT BOARD WAS TO PRESCRIBE
00:01:02LANGUAGE AND IN SOME INSTANCES
EXPLANATION FOR STATEWIDE
00:01:05ISSUES, AND TO DIRECT THE MEANS
BY WHICH INFORMATION IS
00:01:11DISSEMINATED TO VOTERS.
SECRETARY, COULD YOU HELP US
00:01:17SELL WITH THAT?
>> THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S
00:01:19MEETING -- THERE ARE TWO
PURPOSES.
00:01:24FIRST IS TO DIRECT THE MEANS BY
WHICH THE SECRETARY SHALL
00:01:28DISSEMINATE INFORMATION
CONCERNING THE PROPOSED
00:01:32CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT AND A
REFERENDUM TO THE VOTERS.
00:01:36THE SECOND PURPOSE IS TO DIRECT
THE SECRETARY TO CONTRACT FOR
00:01:42THE PUBLICATION IN A NEWSPAPER
OF GENERAL CIRCULATION IN EACH
00:01:46COUNTY IN THE STATE OF THE
BALLOT LANGUAGE, EXPLANATIONS
00:01:51AND ARGUMENTS REGARDING THE
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS AND
00:01:54REFERENDUM, AS REQUIRED BY THE
CONSTITUTION IN REVISED CODE
00:01:58SECTION, 3505.
IN ADDITION, AT THE FRONT
00:02:07TABLE, THERE ARE ARGUMENTS
PREPARED BY THE DEADLINE OF
00:02:11AUGUST 22.
UNDER THE SECTION, WHEN THE
00:02:16GENERAL ASSEMBLY ADOPTS A
RESOLUTION, IT MADE BY
00:02:22RESOLUTION DESIGNATE A GROUP OF
MEMBERS TO PREPARE ARGUMENTS,
00:02:29AND A GROUP OF MEMBERS WHO VOTED
AGAINST THE RESOLUTION TO
00:02:32PREPARE ARGUMENTS AGAINST THE
PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
00:02:34MATT HOFFMAN WAS CHOSEN TO TRACK
THE ISSUE FOR ISSUE ONE.
00:02:46ARGUMENTS WERE SUBMITTED TO THE
SECRETARY OF STATE IN A TIMELY
00:02:52MANNER.
UNDER OHIO REVISED CODE 3519,
00:02:58THE COMMITTEE NAMED IN A
REFERENDUM PETITION MAY PREPARE
00:03:02THE ARGUMENT OR EXPLANATION
AGAINST THE THE LAW, AND THE
00:03:08ASSEMBLY MUST NAME THE PERSONS
TO BE REFERRED.
00:03:12THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY NAMED TO
THE THE EURO REPRESENTATIVES,
00:03:18AND TWO SENATORS.
THE COMMITTEE THE TWO
00:03:21REPRESENTATIVES, AND TWO
SENATORS.
00:03:23-- THE COMMITTEE NAMED TWO
REPRESENTATIVES AND TWO
00:03:29SENATORS.
THE COMMITTEE MAY PREPARE THE
00:03:36ARGUMENTS AND YOUR EXPLANATION
IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED
00:03:39CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY MAY DECLARE
00:03:43THE ARGUMENTS IN OPPOSITION.
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY NAMED
00:03:47REPRESENTATIVES ARMEN BUDISH.
THE COMMITTEES AND THE PERSONS
00:03:58DESIGNATED BY THE GENERAL
ASSEMBLY FILED ARGUMENTS BY
00:04:02MONDAY'S DEADLINE.
THE ARGUMENTS ARE AVAILABLE AT
00:04:05THE FRONT TABLE AND ON THE
SECRETARY OF STATE'S WEB SITE.
00:04:10WE WILL NOT DISCUSS THOSE TODAY.
THE SECRETARY WANTED TO MAKE
00:04:13SURE THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THE
PUBLIC WERE PROVIDED WITH THOSE
00:04:17ARGUMENTS, BUT THE BOARD HAS NO
AUTHORITY TO ACCEPT, REJECT OR
00:04:21ALTER THOSE ARGUMENTS.
THE ROLE WAS TO COUNT THE NUMBER
00:04:26OF WORDS.
HE DID HAVE TO BE LESS THAN 300
00:04:28WORDS, NOT INCLUDING WHO IT WAS
SUBMITTED BY.
00:04:32THEY SATISFY THOSE
REQUIREMENTS, THERE FOR THE
00:04:35BALLOT BOARD HAS NO DUTY AS TO
THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND WILL ONLY
00:04:38BE ADDRESSING THOSE TWO ISSUES.
>> THANK YOU.
00:04:42WE WILL LONG TO RECEIVE WE MOVE
ON TO THE ISSUE OF DISSEMINATION
00:04:49TO THE VOTERS -- WE MOVE ON TO
THE DISSEMINATION OF INFORMATION
00:04:54TO THE VOTERS.
REQUIRES THE BOARD TO DIRECT THE
00:04:59MEANS.
I PROPOSE THIS BOARD AUTHORIZED
00:05:05MY OFFICE TO PROVIDE A
SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF PAPER
00:05:08COPIES OF THE INFORMATION
REGARDING THE 2011 STATE ISSUES
00:05:13TO THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS.
MEMBERS OF THE STATE
00:05:16LEGISLATURE, PUBLIC AGENCIES,
AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES.
00:05:21ADDITIONALLY, THIS INFORMATION
WILL BE PUBLISHED ON THE
00:05:24SECRETARY OF STATE'S WEBSITE FOR
EASY ACCESS TO INTERNET USERS.
00:05:30DO I HEAR A MOTION?
>> YES, MR. SECRETARY.
00:05:33I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION, BUT I
WOULD LIKE TO ASK SOME
00:05:37QUESTIONS, AND MAKE A COMMENT.
>> SURE.
00:05:39>> AFTER THE MOTION IS ON THE
TABLE?
00:05:43>> LET'S ACTUALLY ASKING TO
RESCIND THE MOTION, AND LET'S
00:05:49HAVE A DISCUSSION FIRST.
>> THANK YOU.
00:05:51MR. SECRETARY, I WANT TO MAKE
SURE WITH THE SECRETARY'S
00:05:57COMMENTS, IT IS THE SECRETARY'S
BOARD'S OPINION THAT EVEN IF
00:06:01SOMETHING IN THE ARGUMENT WERE
CLEARLY MISLEADING OR
00:06:06INACCURATE, THAT WE WOULD HAVE
TO PUBLISH THAT INFORMATION, SO
00:06:12WE WOULD HAVE NO ABILITY TO
CORRECT ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE
00:06:15MATERIALLY FALSE OR MISLEADING?
NOW, I DO KNOW THAT IN THE PAST
00:06:23WE HAVE ISSUED STATEMENTS AS
PART OF THAT PUBLICATION.
00:06:26BECAUSE WE ARE DOING THIS AS THE
TAXPAYER EXPENSE, THE BALLOT
00:06:33BOARD WHERE THE SECRETARY OF
STATE HAS NOT VALIDATED THE
00:06:36ACCURACY OF THE CLAIM OR
INFORMATION, AND IS REQUIRED TO
00:06:38DO THIS MINISTERIAL DUTY.
WOULDN'T THAT BE SOMETHING WE
00:06:43COULD DO SO THAT THE VOTERS ARE
NOT MISLED THAT WE ARE NOT
00:06:47SOMEHOW GIVING THE SIGNATURE OF
GOVERNMENT BECAUSE WE ARE PAYING
00:06:50FOR THESE ARGUMENTS THAT WE
HAVE SOMEHOW BATTED THEM FOR
00:06:55ACCURACY, WHEN, IN FACT, WE ARE
NOT ALLOWED TO?
00:06:59>> I DO NOT SEE ANY LEGAL
PROHIBITION ON THAT.
00:07:02>> IN THAT CAPACITY, THEN I
WOULD, AS PART OF MY ULTIMATE
00:07:07MOTION, MAKE A MOTION THAT THE
SECRETARY ISSUED A DISCLAIMER ON
00:07:12ALL OF THE ARGUMENTS, SUCH AS
THE BALLOT BOARD HAS NOT
00:07:16DELEGATED THE ACCURACY --
VALIDATED THE CLAIMS IN THE
00:07:22ARGUMENTS, AND IS NOT -- IS
REQUIRED TO PUBLISH WITHOUT
00:07:27MODIFICATIONS.
THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE
00:07:31POSSIBILITY OF ANYBODY BEING
CONFUSED THAT SOMEHOW WE HAVE
00:07:36VALIDATED THE CLAIMS, WHICH MAY
BE FALSE OR MISLEADING, IN SOME
00:07:40OF THESE ARGUMENTS.
>> I DO NOT SEE ANY LEGAL FAULT
00:07:44WITH THAT.
>> WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND
00:07:48MR. SECRETARY OF STATE --
>> ONE MOMENT, I THINK MR.
00:07:53GRIFFIN WOULD LIKE TO OFFER SOME
THOUGHTS ON THIS ISSUE.
00:07:56>> THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY, AND
I CONCUR WITH THE SENATOR'S
00:08:03GENERAL THOUGHTS, AS I WOULD
LIKE TO MAKE SURE THOSE
00:08:05DISCLAIMERS CAN BE PRODUCED
WITHOUT AN ADDITIONAL COST TO
00:08:09THE TAXPAYER.
>> IF THE ADVERTISEMENT ITSELF
00:08:13IS GOING TO BE VERY LENGTHY DUE
TO THE LENGTH OF SENATE BILL 5
00:08:18-- I WOULD NOT ANTICIPATE AN
ADDITIONAL FEW SENTENCES ADDING
00:08:22ANY COSTS TO THE PUBLICATION.
>> THAT IS FINE.
00:08:26>> CENTER?
>> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION TO THE
00:08:29SECRETARY, AND YOU MAY HAVE
ANSWERED IT WHEN YOU RESPONDED
00:08:33TO THE CENTER, AND I MISSED IT.
WITH REGARD -- SENATOR, AND I
00:08:38MISSED IT.
WITH REGARD TO HAVE WE DONE THIS
00:08:41BEFORE, OR HAVE WE DISCUSSED IT,
I DID NOT CATCH THE ANSWER?
00:08:45>> I AM NOT AWARE OF A
DISCLAIMER LIKE THAT HAVING BEEN
00:08:51ISSUED IN THE PAST BUT I'VE NOT
BEEN PRIVY TO ALL OF THE
00:08:55PREVIOUS BELLA BOARD MEETINGS.
MY ANSWER IS I DO NOT THINK
00:09:00THERE IS A LEGAL PROHIBITION.
>> THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY.
00:09:03WE HAVE IN THE PAST, ATTACHED TO
OTHER THINGS THAT WHEN WE ARE
00:09:09DRAFTING OR PROPOSING ARGUMENTS
THAT THE BALLOT BOARD IS
00:09:12REQUIRED BY THE CONSTITUTION OR
STATUTE TO DRAFT ARGUMENTS WHEN
00:09:17NON- ARE SUBMITTED, AND WE DO
NOT TAKE A POSITION FOR OR
00:09:20AGAINST, SO WE HAVE MADE SIMILAR
DISCLAIMERS ON ARGUMENTS IN THE
00:09:25PAST.
>> THANK YOU.
00:09:27THANK YOU, CENTER.
--
00:09:30>> THANK YOU, SENATOR.
I THINK IT IS CLEAR WHEN YOU GET
00:09:37INTO THESE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE
CALL THESE ARGUMENTS.
00:09:40THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY BASED
ON IRREFUTABLE FACTS.
00:09:44THEY ARE A COLLECTION OF IDEAS
BASED ON A PRO AND CON ARGUMENTS
00:09:49OF A PARTICULAR ISSUE.
I THINK SENATOR FAVORS ADDITION
00:09:55TO THE MOTION IS A PROGRAM.
>> MR. SECRETARY, I HAVE ONE
00:10:02OTHER QUESTION.
>> CENTER.
00:10:04>> WITH REGARDS TO WHAT THE
LANGUAGE WOULD ACTUALLY BE, HOW
00:10:10WOULD WE DECIDE WHAT THAT WOULD
BE?
00:10:11>> IF IT IS OK WITH THE BOARD, I
WILL CERTAINLY CONSULT WITH ALL
00:10:19MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IN PUTTING
THAT TOGETHER SO THAT IT IS THE
00:10:22ACCEPTABLE.
>> THANK YOU, MR. SECRETARY.
00:10:25>> CESAID A.
-- SAID.
00:10:32-- SENATOR FABOR?
>> I WOULD ASK THAT YOU MAKE
00:10:45THAT MOTION WITH AN ADDENDUM.
>> THANK YOU.
00:10:48SECRETARY, WOULD YOU CALL A
ROLE?
00:10:52>> SECRETARY OF STATE?
>> YES.
00:10:57THE MOTION.
.
00:10:59WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT OFF --
DEMOTHE MOTION CARRIES.
00:11:14WE CAN MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT
PORTION.
00:11:17THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR ANY
BALLOT ISSUE AND ARGUMENTS
00:11:21AGAINST THE ISSUE, AND TO
REIMBURSE THE SECRETARY OF STATE
00:11:25OF THE ADVERTISING FUND FOR ALL
EXPENSES.
00:11:30THE SECRETARY OF STATE MAY
REQUESTS SUCH FUNDS FROM THE
00:11:34STATEWIDE BALLOT ADVERTISING
FUND EITHER BEFORE OR AFTER
00:11:38PLACING THE ADVERTISING.
THE ALL-CONSTITUTION REQUIRES
00:11:41THAT THE BALLOT LANGUAGE -- THE
OHIO STATE CONSTITUTION RECOVERS
00:11:48THAT THE BALLOT LANGUAGE
STATEMENT BE PUBLISHED ONCE A WE
00:11:53FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE WEEKS
BEFORE THE ELECTION.
00:11:59THE CODE REQUIRES THE BALLOT
BOARD TO DIRECT THE SECRETARY OF
00:12:03STATE TO A CONTRACT FOR THE
ADVERTISING.
00:12:05IF ACCORDINGLY, I PROPOSE THAT
THE BALLOT BOARD AUTHORIZED BY
00:12:10CONTRACT -- MY OFFICE TO
CONTRACT FOR THESE ISSUES THAT
00:12:13WILL APPEAR ON THE NOVEMBER 8,
2011 BALLOT, AND TO AUTHORIZE ME
00:12:18TO REQUEST THE CONTROLLING BOARD
TO TRANSFER SUFFICIENT FUNDS FOR
00:12:24THIS PURPOSE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?
00:12:26SENATE.
?
00:12:30>> THANK YOU.
I WOULD SO BOTH.
00:12:32>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND.
00:12:36WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL ROLE?
>> SECRETARY?
00:12:44>> YES.
AT THIS TIME IS THERE FOR THEIR
00:12:49BUSINESS THAT NEEDS TO BE
BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD?
00:12:52>> I ENCOURAGE THE SECRETARY TO
BE THE VIGILANT CARE AT >>
00:13:01WELL, WE WILL DEFINITELY --
VIGILANT.
00:13:04>> WELL, WE WILL DEFINITELY
DRIVE A HARD BARGAIN WITH ALL OF
00:13:10THE NEWSPAPERS THAT KEEP OUR
FRIENDS IN THE PRESS CORPS
00:13:14EMPLOYED.
ANY OTHER BUSINESS?
00:13:16>> HERE IN NONE, WE STAND
ADJOURNED.
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